1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,800 All right, last week I had the chance to walk around the PGA 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,960 Show with Jake from fullyequippedgolf.com. 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Jake, how we doing today? Good still reeling. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,640 I don't know about you, but PGA shows it's a long week and so we 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,120 got to get just get back on the horse. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Unfortunately, I, I landed at home for about 31 hours and now 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,760 I'm in San Diego. So we're still, we're reeling, 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,360 but we're recovering decently, I'll say. 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,360 Good OK so we got a lot to kind of breakdown and recap we've 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,360 done the the Instagram post then I put up a big YouTube thing and 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,440 plenty of people have done that but what we need is like just 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,680 kind of a chat about non hype like just normal people saying 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,200 normal things about products that's what we're going to have 14 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,200 here I. Love that. 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,840 I love that. OK, so let's talk about like 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,200 what is actually interesting because I think there's actually 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,000 a lot of new stuff. And I already saw a comment on 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,640 YouTube videos like, hey, nothing was new this year. 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,080 And I was like, no, there's actually new stuff this year 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,880 compared to years and past. Like this was an actually decent 21 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,960 year. It's like, what was this year a 22 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:16,080 new thing for you? That was like OK, this is worth 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,640 like my friend checking out and and looking at here in the 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,920 future. So I'm still like super hung up 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:29,120 on that chipped golf ball. It, it's the best. 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,480 It's not the first, they're not the first people to try to do 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,840 that, right? Like it's been around for a 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,880 little bit. There have been iterations. 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,600 There's one company who sends a mass e-mail every year that says 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,840 they're introducing the same thing and they haven't for like 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,240 6 years. But chipped is like basically 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,960 ready to go. And I just, I can't get over the 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:57,200 idea of being able to putt a golf ball and use that as like 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,120 fitting launch monitor data because for so many reasons, 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,440 honestly. And the biggest one that I think 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,880 wasn't talked about enough is that the ball knows its 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,400 orientation. So there's a it's a nice viewing 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,280 golf ball. Like obviously the core is the 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,760 technology, but there is a mantle layer, there's a real 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,600 cover. Like it feels like a real golf 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:22,120 ball, but you don't even have to take the extra step of aligning 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,120 it to a certain fixed position to use it. 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,680 It can just like wherever you set it down from the ball knows 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,000 its own orientation and allows you to just use it. 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,360 We also like the rumor was they hit it with a driver at 108 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,400 miles an hour and it was perfectly capable of 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,440 withstanding that. Now, I don't know how many times 48 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,000 they did that. If it was like a once and then 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,320 everybody wahooed and that was good enough. 50 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:50,680 But you can for sure chip it like without a problem right 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,400 now. I don't know that it will 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,800 recognize a chip yet. Like I think that's still part 53 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,080 of the pipeline. But yeah, that's my that's my 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,120 big one that I just cannot get out of my head right now is that 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,800 that is a thing. And if it's a thing in the 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,960 context that it is right now, it just means that it's going to 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,080 evolve into a big thing. I think relatively soon. 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,120 I think in in, you know, 2-3 years we might see a fully 59 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:23,320 developed launch monitor golf ball that actually gives 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,000 insightful data. A. 100% agree. 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,560 I think that I guess my little soapbox I've kind of been on 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,360 since this is like, I think, I don't know if it's three, 5 or 63 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,200 10 years, but every golf ball might have a chip in it. 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:42,240 And all of our like data and all of our like stuff about how we 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,560 played around a course and all that stuff is like just done 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,840 instantly. I think that's going to happen 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,200 in the future. I think every golf ball is a 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,440 chip. I just don't know when it 69 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,840 happens. I think though that this product 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,240 is chipped as it is. I guess the challenge is like, I 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,200 don't think any of my friends are going to buy it and use it 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,120 this summer. Like I don't know if that's a 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,240 thing yet. I think it's a little bit like 74 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,600 you're, you're going to get them, take them to the practice 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,080 green, putt with them. I don't know. 76 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,480 Yeah, I, I, I wonder if it's more of a, I guess, a sale for 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,800 fitters and coaches. I don't think that's what they 78 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,320 want because that limits their market pretty extensively. 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,240 But I would love to see those in the hands of like a Steven 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Sweeney or a wedbetter or something like that and just see 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,920 what they can do with it. What intrigues me the most is 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,160 it's really hard to gather good data on certain types of wedge 83 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,520 shots specifically. Like if you're talking deep 84 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,360 breath or out of bunkers, it's a pain in the butt to put a launch 85 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,120 monitor in there. You get you don't get great data 86 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,560 half the time. Super wet conditions, like very 87 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,120 muddy conditions with a bunch of junk on the ball, for example. 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,840 Like I would be really interested in such a niche way 89 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:03,840 of that product getting specifically geared and 90 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:06,680 developed towards like really, really strong wedge data. 91 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,880 The other thing, you know, you bring up a good point of like a 92 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:14,280 chip being in the ball. The irony is like, I wonder if 93 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:19,880 that is a way to fulfill the requirements of the rollback. 94 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,600 Like if we put a chip in the ball, it has to do something to 95 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,160 the core. Yeah, I don't know. 96 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,560 That's such a random thought, but like there's something there 97 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,520 of like, maybe that's how we make the rollback really 98 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,320 interesting. I also think if you're a ball 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,840 manufacturer, like if I'm Titleist and I have chips in all 100 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:47,840 my golf balls, that you would imagine that that gives you 101 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:51,240 pretty useful data in the development of new Golf balls. 102 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,040 If you have just an army of connected golf balls out on 103 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,160 courses, similar to like how an air tag works, like whenever it 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,640 comes into connection with your phone or within proximity of 105 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,480 whatever, like it just sends its data and then throws that back 106 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,920 to like, I don't know, it's a dangerous AI world we're going 107 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,200 to live in, but I'm I'm here for it. 108 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,560 I think it'd be dope. I mean you never have to track 109 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,080 stats anymore. If that becomes a reality, 110 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,280 instantly know all of your everything right away because if 111 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,600 it has GPS in it, so it knows where the pin is because you 112 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,920 make the putt and then obviously from anyways. 113 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,720 So it's just like, OK, chipped. I think it's good. 114 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:33,120 If I was a big company, I would be buying all these little 115 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,200 companies to integrate it into my yeah. 116 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:36,960 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Like. 117 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Like if they have a patent on that core and I'm, you know, I'm 118 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,200 Titleist Cowway Bridgestone. Like, I think I actually think 119 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,480 Bridgestone would be a really cool player to buy that out from 120 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,000 them of like, but I'm going to buy that technology and make 121 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:58,040 sure that I'm the one developing it, Which again, for people that 122 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,880 don't know, the PGA show is kind of for things like that. 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Like that's, that's how those people will set up those 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,640 discussions and, and prove that they're worth the purchase or 125 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,640 whatever. They also won they won the the 126 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,040 the award right for their like little section. 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Yeah, I did. Yeah. 128 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Was that new product of the year or something like that? 129 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,080 Yeah. It was something like that, 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,120 yeah. I don't know what category it 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,920 was in because there's a couple of them, but yeah, they want 132 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,480 like whatever category they are in, they want it. 133 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,120 So people, I mean, people are paying attention, that's for 134 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,400 sure. Like everybody was, they knew it 135 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,840 was up. People were over at that booth 136 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,400 pretty much every time he walked by. 137 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,000 So it was really cool. OK, I've got the most practical 138 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,400 piece of gear that all of my friends can purchase and I think 139 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,360 would be good. It's this glove. 140 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,800 I this is this is developed by a friend of mine, Liam Mucklow. 141 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,480 He's an awesome coach. Golf Lab is his company and he's 142 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,960 been doing a bunch of stuff in baseball. 143 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,040 And so he's been working with Marucci. 144 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,720 I think it's how you say it, the baseball company and they have 145 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,520 club. So what they did is they took 146 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,480 lizard skin, which is like what they wrap bats with. 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 148 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,720 And so they showed me the test they had like this test with 149 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,120 dragged thing across the the surface and it it's twice as 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:17,320 sticky as like your normal glove material and the whole concept. 151 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,360 And they did a study with with golfers. 152 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,080 They didn't go through a test, but that better grip because 153 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,720 there's more friction, because it's stickier, allows you to 154 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,800 grip it better. And it was improved the 155 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,840 centerness of strike, which meant ball speed went up and the 156 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,080 dispersion tightened because of and then also they're like, oh, 157 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,880 and hey, guess what too? Like doesn't like RIP super 158 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,720 quick on the thumb and on the palm? 159 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:42,600 On the palm, yeah, I get the really bad rips. 160 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,200 Or on this, it's this hand, but I get the really bad rips, like 161 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,200 right there. Yeah, it's crazy. 162 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,680 So anyways, I think this is super practical because grip is 163 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:52,960 good. You need to be able to grip, 164 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,240 grip the club really well. It's just a golf glove like we 165 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,480 all use these and it has a compelling story and I I like a 166 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,000 lot of things about products like this, which is like, why 167 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,720 didn't I think of this? This is fantastic. 168 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,400 So anyways, I I'm a fan of this. Yeah, Speaking of, why didn't I 169 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,680 think of this? You and I have a a video kind of 170 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:20,840 going nuts right now, and that is on a simulator T where they 171 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,960 cut a flat side on it. Could have done that a decade 172 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,000 ago, you know. Sure could have. 173 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,480 Yeah, you and I would be sitting on our money instead of, you 174 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,520 know, running around PGA Show with cameras like Mad Men. 175 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,360 For those of you that don't know what we're talking about, Pride 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Sports is coming out with a simulator specific tea. 177 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,120 It's a play off of like the Dome or cage style teas. 178 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,400 They put one of their performance heads on it, so it's 179 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,480 the same head you would play outside. 180 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,160 But the whole point is that they have done studies and they're 181 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,640 still working on studies. I'm trying to be a part of that 182 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,160 actually. I think I think you and I both 183 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,800 are in person of that like that final study that they do. 184 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,760 But like it just makes a lot of sense that the surface area of a 185 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:10,440 driver specifically would 100% have the chance to impact the T 186 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,960 material before it impacts the ball, which will make the ball 187 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,000 pop up, which means that you're going to be high on the face 188 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,080 with low spin frequently on a launch monitor. 189 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,440 It makes sense to me, and that's not just coming from somebody 190 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,680 who has friends of Pride Sports that like just logically it 191 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:28,680 makes sense to me. I also, I'm starting to wonder 192 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:34,560 how many times I've noticed high strikes on simulators off of 193 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:39,360 those kinds of teas. So yeah, that's just a real easy 194 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,840 1. And I still think you and I both 195 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,800 said that they should be charging more because it's, you 196 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,880 get 7 different sizes of teas in one package with a little 197 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:55,040 carrying bag for under 20 bucks. I mean, so if you're a simulator 198 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,320 house or like somebody that hosts leagues and you have 8 199 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,920 bays for less than 200 bucks, you've got 7 sizes of teas in 200 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,960 every single one of your bays for league night. 201 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,800 Like that's, I don't know, it seems like a no brainer to me. 202 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,200 But we, we got, we got to be a part of that test and hold them 203 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,480 accountable for it, that's for sure. 204 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,440 Let's do it, OK? Speaking of launch monitors, I 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,280 think the one of the most hyped probably things of the show was 206 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,280 the new shot scope LM1, the $200 launch monitor. 207 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,240 It looks cool. It's got a nice screen. 208 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,760 It looks nice. Are we over hyped? 209 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,280 Are we under hyped? What? 210 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,440 What's your thought? How? 211 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,640 How candid do you want me to be about this? 212 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,000 No one will watch this. It's fine. 213 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Here's here's what I think is I think it's likely some version 214 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,080 of a rehoused. What are those? 215 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:53,920 PRGRSPRPR one of those, it does not give you an accurate reading 216 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,120 of spin they like that is coming from them. 217 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:02,520 It's it's estimating spin values based on the speed and the club 218 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,600 that you tell it you're hitting. So. 219 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Well, OK, let's explain why that's that's important. 220 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,640 So when you get to a shot of more than 150 yards, spin plays 221 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,000 a good factor and how far it goes. 222 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,240 Yeah, crucial factor. A7 iron spinning at 6800 is 223 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,880 going to fly a lot less than A7 iron with everything else the 224 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,080 same spinning at 5400 for example. 225 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:31,040 Well, depending on your launch actually. 226 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,120 But yeah, like, but right there like just that moment that we 227 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,520 just had for 15 seconds about those tooth like that being in 228 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,480 effect, that's enough for me to be like, look, I get it's 200 229 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,880 bucks. If if all you're looking for is 230 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,440 club head and ball speed, probably not so much club head, 231 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,200 but like just ball speed. There are things that you can 232 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,200 infer with ball speed. There are things that you can do 233 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,240 with ball speed. I think as far as like when I 234 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,720 buy that or a PRGR to like speed train with, you might as well 235 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,240 buy that thing because it's cool looking and I think it looks 236 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,160 much better. And like if you're on a range, I 237 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,640 think it's probably a little safer too, just the way that it 238 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,360 sets up and stuff. Like it just, I don't know, it 239 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,040 looked really good. Like it looked fantastic when 240 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,840 you when you got to hold it and sitting on the desk that they 241 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,680 had and stuff there. I worry that we're trying to 242 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:28,720 push the cheap launch monitor market a little bit too hard 243 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:35,440 because launch monitors to me are something that I think there 244 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,640 is a minimum threshold for usefulness. 245 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:44,840 And if you want to track speed or you want to track relative 246 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,800 difference between clubs in your bag, it's fine. 247 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,120 But if you want to go gap your bag or like bend for loft and 248 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,920 lie or like hardcore figure out your distances like that's not, 249 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,840 it's not going to do it. And you know, I think with the 250 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,080 the market of golfers that we have, especially in the last 5-6 251 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,640 years, a lot of them are going to go buy this thing and be 252 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,000 super disappointed in the results that they get. 253 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,320 What I can't wait for Cordy, is I'm going to start writing a 254 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,480 list of influencers who just happened to get a $200 shot 255 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,880 scope launch monitor and just happen to go out and get 256 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,520 perfectly accurate distances with their clubs and just happen 257 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,000 to make a what's in the bag video using their new shot scope 258 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,600 because it's going to happen. I'm going to go do that for you. 259 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:40,160 Please do it and tag me, yeah. Yeah, my my favorite videos back 260 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,960 in the day, we would go, we would take, we would do like the 261 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,240 voice caddies and stuff like that and we'd take them out and 262 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,880 we would, we would hit them and then laser where they'd land. 263 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,800 That was that was the best. Should probably do that again. 264 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,440 That was a good time. Yeah, there's a, there's a we 265 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,520 should, we should definitely do that with a large group of 266 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,640 tested machines, put it that way. 267 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,280 It's. A good idea. 268 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,960 It's a great idea, in fact. I get really bugged by people 269 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,840 that rig launch monitor testing because it's out there. 270 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,920 It's not even. It's very easy to do, and 271 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,320 depending on the launch monitor you're using in the company that 272 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,080 is running the test, it's pretty easy to make something work out. 273 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,760 Yeah, VGA show 2026 we, we. So let's just stay on launch 274 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,440 monitors for a minute, just kind of running down like new 275 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,920 updates, what we find interesting. 276 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,080 So we've got a Blue Tees launch monitor, which is like a $600.00 277 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,880 thing coming out, which is. Yeah, I didn't. 278 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,600 I didn't see it. Can you talk to me about that 279 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,120 one a little bit? Because I saw photos of it 280 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,760 afterwards and I was like son of a gun like I would have. 281 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,640 I missed it as well in person. We're both in the same boat. 282 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,400 So we're just talking from what we read. 283 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:58,120 That's a thing and it's out there that that is like, I think 284 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,640 the voice caddies were pretty nice. 285 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,400 I've had, I have all those kind of scattered about here. 286 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,360 They got better as time went on. Yeah, they seem like they they 287 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,600 leaned into what they were and just tried to keep making it 288 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,200 better for what it was, which is nice. 289 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,800 That's awesome. Like that's yeah. 290 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Go voice caddy. Yeah Yep so that that the 291 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Bluetooth one is interesting. I mean it's a it's a cool brand, 292 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,720 cool design again, probably good app, you know all that stuff 293 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,280 we've got what else we got coming here. 294 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,440 O rap Soto has a new ceiling mounted launch monitor coming, 295 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,640 which is actually exciting for a simulator folks because, like I 296 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,280 don't know, rap soda stuff is always great. 297 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,960 I they they're accurate and good products. 298 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,400 So I'm interested in that. What else? 299 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,280 The square golf on the. Square, I was going to say the 300 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,080 square one yeah, that was that was the one that like got me the 301 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:54,440 most of like OK quadruscopic screen on 1600 bucks no 302 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,800 subscription fees like yeah, I buy. 303 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,640 That. Yeah, like if you're a range rat 304 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,840 kind of person like that, to me that's perfect. 305 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,680 I don't, I don't know exactly that I'd throw one of those in 306 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,839 like a home SIM, but I don't think that's necessarily like 307 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:13,359 the target for that. I think that they want more 308 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,200 people that just like want the data and are going to go 309 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,880 actually use it and and you can use it outside, you can use it 310 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,800 off the graphs. There's no issues with that. 311 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,040 So yeah, that one was that was one of the cooler ones. 312 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,000 I mean you got to assume that, I mean that has to be accurate 313 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,360 based on the spec sheet like it, it has to. 314 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,120 Yeah, I would be really surprised if it if it wasn't. 315 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,560 I also tell people too like when you're working at launch 316 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,800 monitors, you know, again this is where I think there's a 317 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,160 minimum value. I think that hits the threshold 318 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,720 for that of like whether that perfectly says the exact yardage 319 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,680 and the exact spin number that you generated. 320 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,800 What is going to work is if it says something was lower spin 321 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,600 and something was higher spin on a quad or a trackman, that thing 322 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,520 is still going to be lower spin or higher spin. 323 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,840 It might not be the exact same number that reads off, but I 324 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,480 mean like hell, a trackman and a quad usually don't read off the 325 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,480 exact same number. So yeah, what are we really 326 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,880 arguing about? Correct, Correct. 327 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,440 OK. That's our launch monitor 328 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,200 segment. Did you see any? 329 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,040 Were there any other launch monitor updates from you? 330 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,120 Well, just Bushnell has the circle BE 1 and then Bushnell 331 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:31,720 had a ton of UI and app updates, which was cool not only for quad 332 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,200 users, but arguably actually it was more cool for GC3 Bushnell 333 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,720 launch Pro users, the LPI people that just had the indoor one 334 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:43,440 having I used it. I used it on Friday after the 335 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,440 show. Actually having a range feature 336 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,880 in the tablet app now without having to use the Pro software, 337 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,960 like it's just in the regular Foresight software is killer. 338 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,920 And then there was also some you mess around with some of the 339 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,200 coaching things, like there was the ladder drill, they've got 340 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,120 some putting stuff, they've got some other wedge stuff, they've 341 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:05,000 got some distance control stuff. So I think that team over there 342 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:12,560 is becoming really good at understanding consumer usability 343 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,080 of their products rather than just trying to sell quads to 344 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,720 fitters. Because the GC 3 unit and the 345 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,920 Bushnell unit are both really really good units that give you 346 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:26,240 the same foresight algorithms that the Quad does, but in a 347 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,560 might, in a much more realistic package that 95% of people would 348 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,320 probably rather be off buying than having to pay the money for 349 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,680 a Quad. Yeah, they've made huge gains in 350 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,920 the app and software over the last year. 351 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,680 It is very noticeable so. I would I would like a new 352 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,520 desktop app, I'll say that and they know that I would like a 353 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,520 new FSX studio, but for now the app is fantastic they're. 354 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,200 Making they're making progress there. 355 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,840 OK, oh, here's another launch. This is so nerdy but I'm just 356 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,680 going to say anyways because I think it was kind of cool and 357 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,440 maybe I'm missing something but OK. 358 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,760 So track man rolled out 3D. Yeah, yeah. 359 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,680 In in the track, man, here's why that's interesting. 360 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,200 There's tons of 3D, right? So like, why would I care is 361 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,120 they have the IO program, right? So it knows where you aim and 362 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:22,240 makes the aim really easy when you have that. 363 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,880 Now, when you combine that with the 3D, you can get all of these 364 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,440 interesting things about like how you're aimed, how your 365 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,040 body's lined up. And so like I just popped in 366 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,080 there with a buddy, Justin Craft crafty golf, great, great coach, 367 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,200 so fun to hang out with. And and we're just like looking 368 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,280 at setup and it's it's cool how it like breaks everything down 369 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,240 separately. And it's like, here's how this 370 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,760 is aimed. You're open on this, closed on 371 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,280 this, open on that, you know, and so like, I thought it was 372 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,720 really cool from a practical standpoint, if I could go like 373 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,640 if I was working on my technique, then I could work 374 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,640 with that and like quickly even look at my setup and see OK ball 375 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,520 position like oh God, it's changing every single time, you 376 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,120 know, and like see that and like stamped with it's like, I can I 377 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:06,120 keep this within half an inch of you know where I'm so like that. 378 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:11,160 That was, I actually see if, if I had a, you know, if Crafty's 379 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,600 studio was, was close to me and I was practicing there all the 380 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,680 time, I would use the heck out of that on set up and all that 381 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,920 kind of stuff all the time. So that was like a very like, 382 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,440 obviously no one is not many folks have a whole Trackman 383 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,920 studio in their house. So but if you're able to go 384 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,640 practice at one and your your coach has one or like you, you 385 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,520 remember at a studio with one, then that is going to be so 386 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,040 cool. My question when I saw that is 387 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:41,640 you, so you and I both have a lot of sky track experience. 388 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:46,840 How you just answered, I think actually, but like how much 389 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,800 different is it than optimotion? Like is it, would you say it's 390 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,240 it's it's night and day, like they're not really the same 391 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,760 thing. They just kind of look like it 392 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,200 like are they is, is it a step up? 393 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Like what? Like what's the comparison 394 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,880 there? Because I think a lot of people 395 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,800 know what Opti Motion is either because they've been into a golf 396 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,840 tech or they just use the app or whatever the case may be. 397 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,720 They've seen it on TV now you see it. 398 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,520 But yeah, that was my first question is like, what's the 399 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,000 difference between the track man thing and Opti Motion? 400 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,520 Super similar. Opti motion will be very very 401 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,440 similar. They just wouldn't know your 402 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,800 exact aim like track man would. And they just, and that's the 403 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,880 benefit of the the top down. That's my understanding, yeah. 404 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,080 From the from the IO portion. Very cool. 405 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,160 Yeah. But yeah, it's measuring same 406 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,360 kind of stuff and, and doing the same kind of things with 407 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:39,080 Optimotion. Yeah. 408 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,400 I, I, I just think about sometimes with the stuff of the 409 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560 practicalities, like being an actual user of the stuff, yeah. 410 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,800 And like, sometimes it's just like, if I can roll in and 411 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,480 everything's like ready. To go working, yeah. 412 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,600 It's, it's kind of killer. So I, I thought that was cool. 413 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,320 I, I, I know it's not for everybody, but like that was, 414 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,680 you know, when we popped in there and looked at that, I was 415 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,080 like, OK, interested. Like this is this is a good 416 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,920 update? Well, and again, like that's 417 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,280 another thing that isn't being shown at the show for 418 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040 influencers or general consumer like that's being shown for PGA 419 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,480 pros because they're trying to get PGA pros to use track man's. 420 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560 So they're trying to give them another benefit to why they 421 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,880 should buy a track man or put a track man in their studio, 422 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,640 whatever. But yeah, as we just go back to 423 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,160 the actual purpose of the show, it's it's for business. 424 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,520 It's not for us. Yahoo is to go around shoot 425 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,640 videos on. It is. 426 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,360 We stand in the middle of the hallways and we expect people to 427 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:38,520 walk around us. Yes, absolutely our only goal. 428 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,200 Yeah, as inconveniently as I can place myself is my rule when I'm 429 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,960 out there. I did have a friend offer to 430 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,360 come as security next year and just kind of block, block 431 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:51,640 traffic. So that offers on the table. 432 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,680 We'll see what happens. Just tell him to just bring 2 433 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,920 cones and he can walk around with the cones all show and then 434 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,240 as soon as we set up he just cones and that'll really get 435 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840 people going. That'll rile them up. 436 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,240 OK I got another practical thing, the putt view app. 437 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Did you ever try on their goggles when they had them? 438 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,800 I tried the goggles once I was outside somewhere actually. 439 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,520 Yes, I remember. It's very cool, right? 440 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,440 Like it's. It's fun. 441 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,920 To be yeah, it's all. But you never did it again and 442 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,600 no one has. Yeah, Yeah. 443 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720 So they made it into an app. So all you got to do is you go 444 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,400 with your phone, you scan the ground, it does the LIDAR thing 445 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,000 and that it'll read the pup for you and it'll show you the line 446 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 you need to aim on with. Like, hey, put your little like 447 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,400 tease here and you can set up a practice station. 448 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,680 I mean, how I'm interpreting it, how I would use it is I would 449 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,680 reading greens with it, right? I would set up some training 450 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,880 stations and do that. You're not taking on the course. 451 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Although people have been commenting that on some a post 452 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,400 that I did but. Screw that, I'm going to go map 453 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,320 out every hole in my home course and figure out all these stupid 454 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,720 putts that kick my butt when I play in my home course. 455 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,000 I'm going to go find them and I'm going to LIDAR. 456 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,640 That too. That's a great idea, actually. 457 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,320 That sounds like a scouting tool to me. 458 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Like club championship really. Come. 459 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Yeah. No. 460 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,400 So I did a little video on that. That was that was cool tech 461 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,160 because it was a practical application of those AR goggles 462 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,000 that everyone can use. So. 463 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Is that how the goggles work? Is it Lidar? 464 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,480 I have no idea. Is Lidar the right word that I'm 465 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,640 Yeah. Yeah, because that's like, it 466 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,560 basically just projects like our IR sensors. 467 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,080 Yeah, until it finds the shape of the ground and then just 468 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,120 projects it back and then get, you know, there's a wonder math 469 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,760 and stuff. But like, interesting. 470 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,320 I always wondered, I was like, how the hell does this thing 471 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,400 work? Like doesn't know where I'm at, 472 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,720 what are we doing here? But it worked great here. 473 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,560 You go, we show a screen recording on my phone, Zoom 474 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,360 ahead. OK, so fine, there's a heck of a 475 00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:59,280 podcast we're showing it's. Just making it a. 476 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,440 Recording on my phone. Wow. 477 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,200 So yeah, it's kind of reading. Come on, reading the grain, you 478 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,360 can see the slope and then the line where you're supposed to 479 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,920 aim it so. Yeah. 480 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,640 I wonder how that would handle grain like, you know, like in 481 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,960 Florida when you have some like really rough grain, like the 482 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,880 break in the grain can kind of offset each other sometimes. 483 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,520 I mean, there's no way it could. It could see that there can't 484 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,920 be. I wonder. 485 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,000 Let's break it. I like that idea. 486 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,120 Anyways, that's something I'm excited to like. 487 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,160 Go use. I'd like to go try that. 488 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,320 That'd. Be fun. 489 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:38,040 Seriously like I'm I want to get it and go map out all the holes 490 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,200 in my home course and just write them in my little book like hey 491 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,000 here's this putt it's going to screw you later but not anymore. 492 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,360 We've got a lot of those in my home course. 493 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,920 Like we have, there's some dicey putts on our course that 494 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,720 literally you go out there and you ask 8 guys who've been 495 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,040 members for a decade and you'll get 8 different answers and what 496 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520 that putt's going to do It's wild. 497 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,520 So if there's a piece of technology that can give me a 498 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,680 leg up on that, I'm going to take it and I'm going to use it. 499 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,800 I love that. That's a good call out. 500 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,120 OK, And what else for you? What? 501 00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,640 What? I'll give me another booth that 502 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,200 was interesting that you would you would tell us about when 503 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,120 they ask you what was cool. PRG is doing some really stuff, 504 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,520 but that's not super exciting like they're an accessories and 505 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,160 head cover company buddies is doing some fun stuff to you. 506 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,440 I like. Silly but crazy enamel like. 507 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,200 Yeah, like they can, like they can make cartoon characters into 508 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,160 divot tools with just about anything, pretty much including 509 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440 like photos that you send. Like maybe there's going to be a 510 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,680 bunch of, maybe there's going to be a bunch of Jake Morrow and 511 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,640 Cory Walker Divot tools coming out. 512 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Absolutely. Turn us into cartoons and throw 513 00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,360 us on, throw us on some Divot tools, ballmark, ballmark repair 514 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,680 tools. The Mile C thing was cool 515 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200 because I hadn't seen it before. I think it's, I don't think it's 516 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,640 like brand new news. The one thing, I don't know if 517 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960 you saw it while we were there, did you see the speaker? 518 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,240 Because the speaker to me was actually more like of a cool 519 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,960 idea than the range Finder was. Tell us about it. 520 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,600 They have a speaker with a very, very strong magnet on the back, 521 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,880 probably the strongest magnet that I've felt in a golf 522 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,960 speaker. But then the front side of it 523 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,840 where your screen was like with the GPS distances, it was this, 524 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,960 it was almost like a like a remote and you just, you could 525 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,480 pull the whole thing off the speaker and you could bring the 526 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,760 GPS part with you. So for example, if it's cart 527 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,800 path only and you're rocking the tunes in the cart and you got to 528 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,120 go check your distance, you can keep the speaker where it is. 529 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,440 You can just take the GPS part off the speaker, go walk to your 530 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,000 ball and have your distance there right for you. 531 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,760 I thought that was just a really like, it wasn't an overly 532 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,520 complicated idea. I think it was just a nice 533 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,880 simple idea that somebody was like, hey, like we could do this 534 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,760 and they just did it. Like it was just one of those 535 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,760 kind of snap decisions of this just makes sense, so let's do 536 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,600 it. And then obviously their range 537 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Finder was cool. The other one I don't know if I 538 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,040 can necessarily talk about it is I had a very interesting meeting 539 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:15,160 with Arcos to not get myself. They didn't have an official 540 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,320 booth, so I'm not sure what their stuff was that was like 541 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,880 publicly able to talk about. I will say that if you're 542 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:30,960 somebody who who has not taken the dive into game tracking 543 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,040 things because there are physical items on your clubs, 544 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,320 there will very soon be a solution for that. 545 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Did I say that? Did I say that vaguely enough? 546 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,760 Non physical items on your club. Well, maybe they just, maybe it 547 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,440 just won't be anything on your club. 548 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 And there just there won't be any game tracking. 549 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,760 No, but there will be game tracking. 550 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Oh, I see. OK, OK. 551 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,440 That was perfect. That was as vague as I wanted it 552 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,280 to be. So there we go. 553 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,600 But no Arco's really cool stuff coming. 554 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,920 I'll just say it that way. Breaking news, trying to think. 555 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,160 And then honestly for me, dude, like I got, we got to talk about 556 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,440 clubs a little bit. I know that's not like the sexy 557 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,720 part of PGA Show, but. Because you already, you already 558 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200 released all that info. You've already, you've already 559 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,480 had it. It's already been out. 560 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,640 You've already. No, but like it's so cool. 561 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,680 Like the all the 2026 stuff is just so like set like it's, I 562 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400 just really, really like it. So I I had to give it a shout. 563 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,080 The ping driver's really cool. Wilson's throwing some stuff at 564 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,960 us this week. Yeah, I covered some Gears of I, 565 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,040 I love the ping guys because they're a bunch of researchers. 566 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,240 So I, I go talk to Paul Wood. Did you see the white putter 567 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,480 with the the IQ tech on it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 568 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Oh yeah. Sick. 569 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,600 It's, it's the quiet eye research and I was in their lab. 570 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,880 We put the, I put the glasses on and it's great. 571 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,680 I do believe quiet eye is a thing. 572 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,400 And so that that was fun to see them come out with that. 573 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,400 I do too. It's a very cool. 574 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,080 Again, that's a it's a that's a very big ping thing, right? 575 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,560 Like those guys are going to research things to death. 576 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,120 They're engineers first that happen to make golf clubs. 577 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,480 I absolutely will have everybody over there. 578 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,720 No, I just think they're like, I don't know, just think. 579 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,720 What is your what's the most? Yeah, I oh, just you helped me 580 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,160 on this. Then I need to get a mini 581 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,760 driver. What mini driver should I go? 582 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,960 What is? What's your goal for the mini 583 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,440 driver? I would. 584 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,760 Like what do? You wanted to do. 585 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,360 Well, I just need to go shorter than a driver and I'd like to 586 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,080 not top it like I do my three would. 587 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,520 What's your driver going nowadays? 588 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,360 I mean about 3. I'd carry it like between 290 to 589 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,880 300. I think, I think you're hitting 590 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,760 it further than. That it may be Well, it's like 591 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,800 game like 115. If I'm cruising 1/15, 1:17 we're 592 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,160 chilling. OK, so you're like, let's call 593 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800 it 300. So do you need a mini driver 594 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,360 that will go 260 or you want a mini driver that goes 280? 595 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,120 Probably like 2280 or shorter, no farther. 596 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,680 So my favorite two, I'll give you 2, my favorite 2 mini 597 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,280 drivers for bombers like guys that just they just want to take 598 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,200 a little bit of distance off, but they kind of want to hit it 599 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,440 like a driver is the new Cobra. It's very, very good for the 600 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:30,400 TaylorMade R7 quad. Those two are the ball comes out 601 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,840 as if you're hitting a driver and they are dedicated. 602 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,240 Just, you know, throw a heavier shaft in it, cut it a little 603 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,080 short, maybe put some weight in the back of those instead of the 604 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:45,680 front and just send it. If you're like me, I wanted to 605 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,120 take more distance off at home. I frequently run into there 606 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:57,520 being like a Creek at 265 and I, you know, I can't necessarily 607 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,680 hit it over that Creek reliably, but I can definitely hit it into 608 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,400 that Creek reliably. So hitting a ball, hitting a 609 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,880 ball 280 is probably still in that Creek or that river or that 610 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,240 hazard or whatever. But hitting a ball 250 and not 611 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,920 rolling into the Creek is a really, really cool skill. 612 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,600 So I built my mini driver with the Cowboy Elite mini because it 613 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,520 spins a little bit more, it floats a little bit more so it 614 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,960 doesn't roll out as much and I can work it a little bit better 615 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,480 than the other ones. But if my goal, you know, I, I 616 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,440 had a couple days last year where I just gave up on my 617 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,840 driver and I brought our 7 quad to just hit bombs at my home 618 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,000 course that were just laser beams, which was super, super 619 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000 fun. And then the third person is the 620 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,960 person who still wants to be able to hit it off the deck. 621 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280 The definitive answer for that one is the title is GT280. 622 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,520 It's less of a mini driver and more of a mega would I call it, 623 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,400 but that is the definitive answer. 624 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,040 If you want to be able to do kind of both, kind of good title 625 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,880 with GT280 is your go to. OK, very good, very good. 626 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:14,400 You also informed me at the show that you believe the Cobra Optum 627 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,639 LS more letters. No, that's it. 628 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:21,440 You got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 629 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,960 OK, OK. Is the most forgiving LS model 630 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,000 out there? Is that a fact or an opinion? 631 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,159 Cobra would tell you it's a fact. 632 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,679 OK. I would. 633 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,159 That's something that's something to really put your hat 634 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:38,520 on there. And just say, yeah, yeah, I 635 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,719 would. I would say that in my testing, 636 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,960 it is the most forgiving low spin head that I have ever hit. 637 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,639 Like I'm confident in saying that I've had a lot of really 638 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,960 good LS stuff like I had AQI 35 LS that I played for a while. 639 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,800 I've played a triple diamond driver, which is their low spin 640 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,240 equivalent for like a long time. But that Cobra Optum LS, their 641 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,800 POI story is real. I mean, it's, it's insane. 642 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,800 And if you put those weights in the right spot and you 643 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,280 prioritize as much forgiveness as you can out of that package, 644 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,960 it 100% is the most forgiving LS driver that I have ever tested. 645 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,640 And like by a wide margin too, like this isn't something where 646 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960 I'm nitpicking data or going through fifty shots trying to 647 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,080 make it work like this is, you know, you take six shots with 648 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,920 that one and six shots with something else. 649 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,760 And I can't tell you what your performance differences are 650 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,160 going to be, but I can I can for sure tell you that you're going 651 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,080 to see way more forgiveness across the face on that Cobra LS 652 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,000 head than you can on pretty much anybody else's LS head right at 653 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,680 the moment. Just remarkably cool stuff from 654 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,680 that news story. I think it's unfortunate because 655 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,840 they're still not going to sell as many of them as they should. 656 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040 But yeah, I was like blown away by the performance of that 657 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,120 driver. You got it. 658 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,520 I will, I'll check it out. Do you have a full video over on 659 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,680 fully equipped on all all the new Cobra stuff? 660 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,520 What can you? Direct. 661 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,120 I did a launch video on the technology explaining it. 662 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,320 We've got a bunch of testing stuff coming up. 663 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:20,240 I actually, I, I had an LPGA player like she was one swing 664 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,520 away from playing that Cobra driver and then she fell 665 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,840 absolutely in love with something else that I was still 666 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,800 will to this day say is a little bit inferior than the combo that 667 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,280 I had her in with the Cobra. But she's the she's the 668 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,960 superstar and I'm not. So she wins. 669 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,920 OK, I'm happy to let her win. Last gear question, let's say 670 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,240 you had a friend who just wanted the fastest ball speed possible. 671 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,360 Not naming any names and there's bring in, you know, let's say 672 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,840 with that that club they're singing 125 to 130. 673 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,520 Like what would you put them in? Fastest club on the market? 674 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,720 Yeah, everybody that I have seen that swings 110 or faster, every 675 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,160 single person that I've seen test multiple drivers, the 676 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,400 Cowaway Quantum is the fastest like. 677 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,880 The triple diamond. The triple diamond or the triple 678 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,960 diamond Max? I haven't seen much difference 679 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,080 in speed between the two of them. 680 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,760 The the difference between the triple diamond and the triple 681 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,760 diamond Max is more about fight bias than it is anything else. 682 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,480 And a lot of people it just gets really confusing. 683 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,600 Which is their fault because they're naming conventions are 684 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,840 not the best. But no, every single high speed 685 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:35,040 player that I have seen test all the gear, the cow away was the 686 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,840 fastest. It wasn't always the best for 687 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,400 everybody. But if you're just chasing ball 688 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,400 speed or you're somebody who has a lot of control over their 689 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,040 driver, the the quantum is it, I think right, like right now my 690 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,760 decision is coming down to personally, do I want the 691 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,560 quantum speed or do I want the cobra forgiveness? 692 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,840 Like I have essentially nailed it down to those two and I need, 693 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,600 I just need to do true on course testing with those to see, you 694 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,240 know, when it's come to when it comes time to actually aim down 695 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,480 a hole and and make a shot happen, which one of those is 696 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,400 going to do it for me? And that's going to be the one 697 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,880 that ends up in the bag for me. But. 698 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,320 I difference are we talking about between the two of them. 699 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:25,080 So I spent a week at the OEMs testing and at TaylorMade I was 700 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,000 at, I was swinging at like 116, just having a great day. 701 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,640 Ball speeds were like one 64165 Cobra. 702 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,960 I was at like 114 that day and ball speeds were like 160, 703 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,880 three, 164. And I was super happy. 704 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,440 I was like, man, this is going to be a closer race than I 705 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,960 thought. And we got to cow away the next 706 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,920 week. And I, I was only at like 1/11, 707 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,720 1:12 the day that I tested the cow way and I saw one 67168. 708 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,720 Like I was swinging a little bit slower and ball speeds were 709 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:59,000 still 2-3 miles an hour faster. And it has happened for me every 710 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880 single time that I've tested since then as well. 711 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,720 Like it just, it just stays faster. 712 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:07,320 I've hit I got over 170 ball speed last time I tested the 713 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,840 Cowboy stuff, which was right before PGA show, right before I 714 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,680 came down, I was testing a ton of stuff. 715 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,520 The Cowboy is one of them and I got over 170 a couple times. 716 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,720 I'm like, you know, 115 one 116 swings. 717 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,960 I don't swing quite as fast as you do. 718 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,040 So I got to work a little harder to get my ball speed. 719 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,360 But yeah, it's it's it is really amazed me. 720 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,240 And I'm a little bit biased because I've played a cowboy 721 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:37,120 triple diamond or sub zero for the last like decade, basically. 722 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,440 And I was actively trying not to play it this year, Like I was 723 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,600 trying purposely to put something else in my bag. 724 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,800 And I think, I think I just went right back to him. 725 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040 You just promised me an extra like 2 to 4 miles an hour ball 726 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,600 speed. So can you can you dig me up 1 727 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,080 where? I yeah of. 728 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,160 Course of. Course, yes, absolutely I can 729 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,960 help with that. We're we're at, we're, we're 730 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:03,040 just on the verge of 190. So that and we're looking for 731 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,320 any advantages right now. Anything. 732 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,560 What are you swing? What are you swinging at when 733 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,160 you're when you're trying to hit the 190? 734 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,400 Are you like 1/21/25? It depends on the launch 735 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,440 monitor. Like I was at with Eddie 736 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,720 Fernandez, he's a long drive guy in Orlando. 737 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,040 I stopped by day after show was on track man, and I was up at 738 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:27,240 like one 24125 got up TO1184185 ball speed at home here on the 739 00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:29,120 sky track. If I'm doing my stuff, I've I've 740 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,960 gotten up to like I can get above 125. 741 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,960 I got 130 a couple times, got 188 ball speed so. 742 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,080 Yeah. It is so much work. 743 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,160 At 190, you need to be at least at 1:25 and you have to hit the 744 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,240 centre of the base. So no, it's not easy to swing at 745 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,480 1:25 in the 1st place. Like that's just makes my back 746 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,640 hurt. That's what that does. 747 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:58,160 I've been, I've been dying to get back to like cruising at 748 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,720 like 120 because I was, believe it or not, at one point in my 749 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:03,880 life, I was like 120 on the golf course. 750 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,360 And I'm not, I'm not a big guy. So I'm trying to get back there. 751 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,000 But there's a lot of we got to do a lot of work. 752 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,960 To get there you got to stop travelling, that's the main 753 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,160 thing. No kidding. 754 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:12,480 Yeah. Yeah. 755 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,280 I got to have two seconds to be able to swing a club fest. 756 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,200 OK. All right, well, I have a I've 757 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,280 got a goal now. What shaft? 758 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,960 What shafts are you using? Let's hold on. 759 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,040 Let's let's, let's like this is a perfect segue. 760 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Let's talk about TPTA little bit. 761 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,120 Let's do it. I'm sure that's probably what's 762 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,040 in your driver. Yeah. 763 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,760 And we also saw some sick putter shafts. 764 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,800 Oh, look at this guy with his What are you, a NASCAR driver 765 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,080 sponsored over there? Ridiculous. 766 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,240 Yeah, no, I I play the 17 low 46 inch. 767 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:45,280 We got a we got a 16 high over here. 768 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,560 I know it's the 16 low cut down to 4045. 769 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,080 So yeah, no, it it's great. I mean, the Nitro range is 770 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,080 great. This is a you know, I I'm biased 771 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,760 here, would like to. Just for the record, Chef, but. 772 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,680 The new putter shafts are a cool story. 773 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,840 This is. I mean, it's right up your 774 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,960 alley. Super cool. 775 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,800 It's so. I have you ever heard of like 776 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,040 multiple putter shafts to change the feel of a putter before? 777 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,080 Because I haven't. This is the first time I've ever 778 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,240 heard. Feel yes. 779 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,640 Sound No. OK. 780 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,920 I think that was the big difference is like, you know, if 781 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,760 you take AD amount of 105 and AD amount of 130, they're going to 782 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,480 feel very different. But you're not going to get a 783 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,600 different sound off the face between those two. 784 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,520 It's just not going to happen. But it will change. 785 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,400 It'll change the feel in your hands and through the stroke and 786 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,200 stuff. But the, the, the audio, the 787 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,160 audible difference on the TPT stuff was insane. 788 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,200 I mean, this is in a a super crowded area where we're getting 789 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,520 literally crossed into by people, which you guys saw on 790 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,320 camera and 8 feet away you can hear the difference in striking 791 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,800 the same insert with A50 and A70. 792 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,360 Like I, I'm not kidding. I mean, I, I said it on that 793 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,120 video. I genuinely having the 70 would 794 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,520 actually make me think about playing a white hot insert 795 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,720 because the roll is amazing. The feel is amazing, but the 796 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,680 sound stinks. I don't like that it gets mushy 797 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,960 and dull and dead. I want the the little click off 798 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,120 the face like a milled putter. So no, I am, I'm I'm going to 799 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,880 get my hands on some and I'm going to test it more. 800 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,280 But like what a cool thing. I I thought it was awesome. 801 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,080 Yeah, well, I mean, it's like John Sinclair. 802 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,520 So he's top 50. Coach is the legend. 803 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,440 Everybody goes to him in like 3D and he's just kind of like he 804 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,880 can't help but figure stuff out. It's it's what he does love 805 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,920 that. And so he, he figured out with 806 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,320 these shafts that so they have really low torque, which is the 807 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,560 twisting aspect, but you want low torque on a powder shaft 808 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,120 that doesn't make sense. Absolutely. 809 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,960 And then turn them into a, a tuning fork with the frequency. 810 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,080 So he figured out with the frequency of the shaft, which is 811 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,880 the flex and he could change that and he can control the 812 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:04,320 Hertz of each shaft. So you, you hear it of like, 813 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,880 that's why I want to click and want it muted. 814 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,760 So it's like just some really cool the way they're made it 815 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,520 allowed him to do it and like all this stuff, but it's like a 816 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680 really cool story. I've got a full piece that I did 817 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:22,000 with him on like the story and showing his like data that he 818 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,240 collected of, of the Sam stuff as well. 819 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:28,280 So yeah, yeah. It it, it, it is cool. 820 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,880 You'll enjoy playing around with it of yeah. 821 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,200 You can take a white hot insert and make it feel, you know, like 822 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,680 a clique. It's it's very interesting. 823 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,200 Yeah. It it makes me really want to 824 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,640 take a A50. The muted. 825 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:53,320 One and put it and put it in like my Tuon, because I I I want 826 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,400 to know what we didn't get to do is the opposite effect. 827 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,400 Like I know that I can turn a white hot into a nice, you know, 828 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:07,040 clicky sound off the face, but could I turn a Tuon Austin into 829 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,480 like a muted, softer feeling off the face? 830 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,760 If that's what I prefer to do? Like I do want to try that. 831 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,600 Like I want to go the other way and see what happens. 832 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:18,680 So yeah, I got to I got to reach out to our new my new friends, 833 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,800 your your your friends, but my new friends at TPT and I got to 834 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,880 figure out how to get my hands on some of those because, well, 835 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,080 AI need to get my hands on some. And then I also need to get my 836 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,040 hands on some identical putters so that I can do some some AB 837 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,640 testing. If you will, I like you. 838 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,000 Yeah, but no, that was very cool. 839 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,640 I was happy that I was with you, too, because you explained it 840 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,360 perfectly. Like, I don't know, I probably 841 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,760 would have walked, like, I probably would have watched the 842 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,480 presentation and then walked away from the booth if I hadn't 843 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,000 been with you. But I'm super glad I was with 844 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,240 you because it was a amazing demonstration. 845 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:51,840 So. Yeah. 846 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,400 That, that is cool innovation, right? 847 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,400 Like which is like new things happening like that. 848 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120 That is the vibe. I, I would say the vibe, like to 849 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,560 summarize the show for me, it was, I've been for a long time 850 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,840 going to these things. I've seen years when there were 851 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,720 just massive sections of just it, just empty cement. 852 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,880 There's no booth there. I've seen demo day packed with 853 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,040 all the major OEMs hitting clubs there. 854 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,160 Now Demo day keeps getting worse year over year because the OEMs 855 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,760 don't want to do anything, which is fine. 856 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,400 I mean, whatever. But the Convention Center busier 857 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,040 than ever, like more booths out in the lobby. 858 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,000 We're everywhere. We're just putting people, we're 859 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,680 putting booths and all kinds of stuff. 860 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,400 And it was like there are tons of people. 861 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,240 It was crazy. I I, you know, I don't know if 862 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:48,120 the state of golf good place business, good, good place, like 863 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,280 what the energy let's our outlook for the year of of 864 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,680 things. It seems positive. 865 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:55,760 I don't know if this is a reflection of like right now or 866 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,360 if it's like a trailing 12 where this is like the energy where it 867 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:04,520 was 12 months ago, but like it was it was good. 868 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,720 It was really good. It was like probably the best 869 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,800 show I've ever been to. Just like busyness and like 870 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,760 industry's good, everyone's happy kind of kind of vibe. 871 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,960 Yeah, it was fun. I wish. 872 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:22,960 Like it sounds so ego maniacal but like there's so many people 873 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,440 that I would walk by and I'd be like Oh my God, I haven't seen 874 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,240 you in like 8 months and then you're like I would love to talk 875 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:28,320 to you but I got to go. Bye. 876 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,640 And it's just one of those things where like I wish I could 877 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:38,240 almost like just set aside like a 45 minute time slot and just 878 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:42,400 be like, look, anybody that I haven't seen in the last six 879 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,280 months, just please come say hi for a little bit. 880 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640 Let's hang out just for because that's part of the show for me 881 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,880 too, is always like I get to see international friends. 882 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,080 I made some new international friends this year, which is 883 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,760 really fun, like getting to see them and just everybody, like 884 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,160 all my buddies are in the same place at the same time. 885 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,280 Whether they're people that I'm technically, you know, competing 886 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,200 against. You could say like I like, I 887 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,440 love Brian Knudsen as if he is a family member of mine. 888 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,040 And whether him and I are technically on the opposite 889 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,760 sides of the aisle, you can say with what we do for a living. 890 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,120 Like I support him, he supports me. 891 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,440 We love spending time together. It's always super fun. 892 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,560 And like stuff like that are like, you know, I get to see 893 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,000 you. We hung out for jeez. 894 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,560 I mean we hung out for what, 6 hours that day like. 895 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,240 We ran all around. Yeah, which ended up being 896 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,240 fantastic. Like it was actually. 897 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,080 Very useful. It was very helpful not only 898 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,880 because we kind of like split crews and like did you know our 899 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,760 own thing congruently, but also just like just to be able to 900 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,840 bounce ideas off of and be like, well look at that thing. 901 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:43,680 You're like, whoa, look at that thing. 902 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,800 You're like, I don't know about that thing. 903 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,600 You know, like just to have somebody that was kind of in it 904 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,280 with us was really fun. So yeah, I mean, going into next 905 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,920 year, I think my plan will change a little bit. 906 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,080 I do want to make more time to just be able to walk a little 907 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,320 bit. But I also think there's a huge 908 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,880 benefit in like the way that you and I kind of ran it this year 909 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,880 for ourselves of, you know, we always had a camera ready to go 910 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,120 if we needed it. And I think that is a huge, huge 911 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,440 benefit of the show for for people like us that are kind of 912 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,120 reporting on the show. But yeah, I've got some 913 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,200 interesting ideas for next year too, for the PGA Show, for some 914 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,720 experiences, I guess you can call it. 915 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,200 Wonderful. Yeah, I went nuts. 916 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,880 I had, yeah, three guys, some of our team down with and we we 917 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,480 just went, we went crazy. Yeah, you were busting exports 918 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,600 though, like you guys are getting stuff out like that was 919 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,720 that's what impressed me the most is like, yeah, you guys 920 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:38,040 were there and you had a good crew with you. 921 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,440 But still, I mean, that's not, we've talked about this a little 922 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,280 bit off camera. Like it's not easy to to do what 923 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,040 we did for three days. Like it's it's just not. 924 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,000 It was a long week and I I made him shoot Monday and Tuesday and 925 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,200 Friday, separate projects as well, so. 926 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,400 Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot for your boys. 927 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,680 We got to maximize our travel time, you know. 928 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,400 Yeah, I did keep reminding them that they were absolute 929 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,280 superstars though. And I told I, I told them to 930 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,800 keep reminding you that they are too. 931 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,000 Yes, they are. They are, that's for sure. 932 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,880 OK, Jake, thanks for hanging out. 933 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,320 It's a good PGA show week. Enjoyed hanging out with you and 934 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,680 people can follow you? What is the best place they can 935 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,600 keep keep tabs on you? My Instagram so app made for the 936 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,320 range is is the best place. And then if you want some 937 00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:36,320 content that you might not see on made for the range or updates 938 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,160 about new clubs and testing and stuff like that. 939 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,240 Most of that's going to live on app fully equipped golf, which 940 00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:44,560 is the gear platform of golf.com, who I work for now. 941 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,360 Yeah, we're, it's going to be, it's going to be a crazy year, 942 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,000 that's for sure. And that's all over and out. 943 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:54,560 See ya.