Doctor Joe, I'm excited to hang out with you today because we
got to figure out what this thing does and why it works.
Is is is what we're talking about today.
This is if you're not watching the video.
This is the Rotex which you created, correct?
Yes, I invented it in 2007. OK, so, so tell us like, what is
it if somebody hasn't like stepped on this, like what it
what is this thing? Yeah.
So let me go back and and tell you why I invented it.
How about that? I'd love it.
OK, so I was a Navy SEAL for 22 years and I and I retired from
being a Navy SEAL. I was having a lot of fun at it
but I retired but because I had a really super bad episode of
low back pain in sciatica. So I had been out of the
military since 1992 until 2007 and I had several episodes of
low back pain. But I have one that lasted for
about 3 weeks and every time my heart would be shooting flame
would shoot all the way down to to the bottom of my left foot.
So anybody that has ever had severe sciatica knows that
that's almost unbearable. So anyway, I was thinking about
what I could do about it and I was a practicing physician at
the at the time, practicing chiropractor.
And every time somebody would come to me and lay down on my
table that had really bad back pain, I noticed that either one
or both hip were outward rotated externally.
So I started started thinking about something that I had
learned from a professor when I was going to school.
And he said the only through internal rotator of the hip was
this particular muscle. And so it was kind of in my
mind. And so as I was getting over
this episode, I said I have to find some way that I can
strengthen my hips to turn internally.
I had a, a kid that was was doing an apprenticeship at LSU
at the time, really, really sharp kid.
And he was working for me. And I told him you need to find
out. Just research anything that's
going to work, rotation and internal rotation.
There was nothing worldwide, nothing.
So anyhow, that was my invention.
My original thought was to strengthen my internal rotators
to level my hips up in my pelvis.
Got it. Get it.
And so in, in the way that you're doing that is there's
these red discs on a black platform, it's slanted and
there's a little bit of resistance as they rotate, is
that. Is that, well, it's fair to a
point. There's a little bit of
resistance if you're just rotating with no intent.
But when you get on them and and put your back against the wall
and rotate inward, there's as much resistance as anybody can
ever handle. That includes world class or
like Super Bowl champions, Major League Baseball, MVPS, athletes
across the Spectra of of every sport that that you can, you can
name they, they look it, it looks like it could not possibly
be that much exercise, but you get guys like Fast Eddie
Fernandez sweating bullets. Then then you know there's
something to it. OK.
And that's why we're here because he showed us as like 5
exercise warm up, right? Of like, Hey, here's how you get
ready to go quickly. And I think that's fascinating
because if I was going to go get ready to hit balls fast, I would
love 25 minutes in the gym because that's to feel like
really good to go. Like that's what I would would
like. So if you could save me a bunch
of time, like I'm all in. Tell me about, tell me about it.
So why do those five exercises work?
Like what's what's going on there that were you're able to
get someone warmed up so much faster?
So first thing we've got to consider is there's basically
two types of exercise and I don't want to get down in into
the like the real nitty gritty, but one is called isometric and
the other is called isotonic. Isotonic has been shortening,
lengthening muscles. When you can get into an
isometric contraction and hold it for five to to 10 seconds and
really push on that isometric contraction, you're activating
every tissue in your body from your joints to your muscles to
your tendons, to your ligaments, to all your fascia and your
nervous system as much as it could possibly go.
And so that's all the exercise that you need to after those
five exercises, from the bottoms of your feet to the palms of
your hand and everything in between.
Got it. So an isometric exercise is, is
the key, that's the differentiator.
And and is that the part when you're like you go, you still
like let's say the one where you're, you're pulling the band
and rotating your feet back and that you rotate it back and then
hold it for five seconds. Like that's that movement,
right? Yeah, exactly.
You know, there's components of isometrics in each one of those
reps, but the one where you turn backwards, that's the biggest
isometric hole in the most stress that you could put on
your body. Plus it is golf specific.
It it you're turning, you're turning functionally at the same
exact way that your teacher would teach you.
Got it. So OK, fill in the gaps here for
us then. You started this as a way to
help with your hips. Now we're talking golf, warm up
and strengthening. How did you get from there to
there and what have you learned over that that time?
Yeah. So when I first started, it was
completely about injury correction.
You could say physical therapy worked well, chiropractic
offices, hospitals, things like that.
So it expanded into sport and then really I had no, I had no
visions of doing anything in golf and golf found me.
There are a lot of coaches that I've done done a lot of work
with. Some of them.
I picked up your book, some of them in this in this book right,
right here. And a couple, couple of them
were early adopters or Rd. Takes motion and word of mouth
came along not only for activation, which we used to
call warm up, but recovery performance, injury reduction,
longevity and all of all of those things.
Got it, got it. So why like, why do you think it
it works so well? Is it just the isometric thing
or like what's what's the the secret here?
Because I, I would say like if I was to describe it to someone is
one, you are shaking while you do the exercises.
Like it's so you're, it's so intense, right.
Yeah. And then the other thing is it
just was like moving your feet and your lower body at the same
time really open up your like open the hips and like you feel
like you're able to rotate better.
Like I think those are the two things that kind of come to mind
for me after after using them here for for a little while.
Yeah. So I'll just, I'll just say this
and then you can let it go in one ear, pick up speed and go
out the other. But within your body, there's
there's something that that is basically we could call it new
science. It's always been on the body,
but but the science of it is very new relative to all the
stuff that we know about joints, all the stuff we know about how
muscles contract and tendons and things like that.
There are systems with your body called fascia, and fascia is
something that covers every single thing in your body.
It interpenetrates everything, not just muscles.
And there are basically 7 lines. We could call them kinetic
motion lines or we could call them fascia lines.
And So what we've done in those five exercises that you see
fascinating doing, we have covered every single one of
those fascial lines and activated it.
You just did this here. You're activating 12345 lines,
five of those 7 lines when you do that one exercise and getting
everything is connected to the brain as you could possibly
connect. And like Fast Eddie says, you're
giving your brain permission to swing.
I also undoubtedly I haven't, I haven't seen your podcast with
him, but undoubtedly he said while he was doing those
exercises that he's going past his normal range of motion, past
it in the golf, past what he would use in the golf swing.
So there is almost nil chance that he's going to get a strain,
pain, injury while he's doing his the golf swing itself
because in his activation set he's already gone past that
range of motion and he never gets close to that in his golf
swing. That makes sense.
I think that's a huge, a huge thing to hit on because I think
in most warmups, like leg swings, you know, like trying to
do that, maybe there's some, you know, light stretching cat cow,
you know, like some of that stuff.
I think it's really good and you can get there.
But I think what you've made just kind of does it faster and
like, and is there something about when you're rotating
because you're you're rotating in the backswing and your feet
are rotating with verse like fighting against, right?
Because like in the in the golf swing, when you're stretching,
you're fighting against, you're trying to turn your hips and
then fight against your foot staying there.
Where is it this? Maybe, maybe, maybe you will
Fast Eddie doesn't. OK, so, but I we we won't get
into that. OK, So, yeah, so you, you
mentioned a really, really cool key thing, right?
Number one, I have a new system called the Las system and it's
called if I I named it that way because we do a lot of work
overseas and it's a lot harder to knock my name off than it is.
A is a platform, right? But what it does, it's the first
thing in the world that is ever there.
It is the first platform in the world that allows you to rotate
first, completely load yourself in rotation and then do the four
basic movements, abduction, adduction, flexion extension
while pushing out and flexion extension while pulling in.
And then if we use some sort of an implement like a, a tube or a
Mace, like a weighted pole, then we have activated all of those 7
lines of fascia 2 as full as it's done.
And if we've we've done that with fascia, then we've also
done it with the ligaments, the tendons, the muscles and the
joints. It so is your mission now of
like, Hey, how do I help people activate the fascia lines as
like quickly and efficiently as possible?
Like, is that your goal of of like with all this stuff?
My, my primary goal is within golf.
Within golf, my primary goal is is to talk to people like you.
Talk to people like John Sinclair, Ralph Bauer, the guys
at AMG, we're going to see Michael Jacobs.
We've been to see Doctor Kwan, Doctor Rose Who, There's a,
there's another ones and there's some somewhere where we can, we
can see everything this happening on the outside of the
body. My mission is to talk to these
people and let them know that if we see something moving
specifically and we know an exact spot where it moves from,
then we can also identify the exact spot where the initiation
come from. Backswing load initiation.
We can identify those muscles and train them.
Gotcha. So your goal is to figure out
what muscles to train then a little bit of like, hey, is that
what you're trying to figure out?
Like what are the most important muscles and and parts of the
body to? I don't want, I don't want to, I
don't want to sound curt. We figured it out a long time
ago. It's just communicating and and
and for, for people to understand that we're not
competing. We're adding to the to the mix.
For example, I was just up at to visit a dear friend of mine in
Rochester, which I understand that's where you're from, right?
Rochester, MN. We, we got to say hello to you,
which which was fun. It was great to meet you, meet
you in person. That was that was fantastic.
Yeah, so, so I was. Cold we do apologize as a as a
town and state for. That well well, I've got I've
got an interesting point about that Cole, but remind me, OK.
So anyhow, Dr. Andrea Boone and, and she's with the, the Mayo
Clinic and we, we measured in the amount of contraction.
So you're measuring across she, she's a diagnostic ultrasound
expert. She's been teaching it since,
since the technology first came out worldwide.
And she can visualize any muscle in the body and tell exactly
what it's going to do. What, what the how, how big the
belly contracts, right. We've, we have some insane
numbers. I just computed them this
morning about how Eddie swings fast.
Eddie swings insane numbers. I'm telling you, there's,
there's certain, certain muscles that you would not believe.
People won't believe how much how much they contracted.
Interesting what, like what's what surprised you or like what
was the most interesting thing that you?
Nothing surprised me except for except for the the there were
huge contractions. For example, I'm not going to
mention any particular muscles, but there's muscle up here in
this region that contracted 188%.
That means that means it was 1 inch to start with and almost 3
inches at the end. So getting, getting back to what
we're, what we're accomplishing here is we already know what
muscles in the body are the the fastest, which muscles that's,
that is absolutely like basic knowledge, right?
But I think sometimes in the golfing world, we get confused
with sequence and we start to try to add add speed and power
and whatever else with, with the wrong muscles.
And so then we begin training the wrong muscles and we
actually either have no gain or it creates injury, or we get
slower. I let's make this practical for
folks. Let's, let's kind of break it
down of like what muscles the train.
Then we, I mentioned, you know, I'm, I'm on a speed journey.
I went from, you know, maxing out at at probably 174 ball
speed to now I can get up TO188187188 kind of every time.
That's that's better than almost all pros.
I'm trying, hey, I, I have a crazy goal of trying to get to
200. So I'm, that's not, I'm going to
keep going. So like what, what would your
advice be to me on what muscles do I need to train?
Like how do I get because I, I know for a fact my body is the
weakest part. I don't work out.
I never have worked out my whole life.
I like, I'm not, I'm not that guy.
And I'm kind of right now just relying on my golf swing and
technique and being pretty mobile, right?
I'm, I have a lot of mobility. So I'm able to do so like walk
us through it. How, what muscles do I need to
train? What have you learned that you
would kind of pass on to me? Yeah.
So you mind if I give up real quick demo?
Go for it, explain it, explain it better that way.
OK. Let me see if this this camera
and landscape will we'll get the right picture.
Can you see me OK? I got you.
OK, Perfect. OK, so you said you know which
muscles first. First of all, I don't think in
terms of specific muscles anymore.
I know, I know that that if you're right-handed golfer, I
know that these muscles right here are ultimately going to
cause the most speed, right. Everybody knows like he talked
to John Sinclair, he talked to you guys at AAMG, talk to
anybody, anybody that knows gears, hand speed, it is the
differentiator. If it faster the hand speed, the
faster the swing, you know, it might might go 1000 different
ways, but but that's what ultimately caused speed and
there's muscles up in here that cause all of this to move as
fast as it can go and powerfully it can go.
However, I think in terms of the bottoms of the feet to the palms
of the hand. And if we we can do functional
golf type exercises that activate and strengthen whole
lines in in a functional movement like this, I'm going to
do the I'm right-handed, so I'll do the backwards first.
You'll see see my backside right by by the way, when I'm pushing
this out, it's got a lot of resistance on it a bunch right.
So what I would do? First of all, I would rotate,
get myself in rotation and then I turn all the way here like
that. And then I activate my arm lines
on the front and the back and then I push across just like
that. And that gets everything.
And as we discussed Courtney already, we're going to get you
one of these LES and then you do that.
And like I say, OK, I'll, I'll when I come back to when I come
back and sit down, I'll explain something called frequency and
rate coding. OK, OK, it sounds complicated,
but it's really simple. OK.
So the same thing, like if
there's a left-handed golfer, I would turn all the way here like
that and then push. So if someone's asking like, OK,
I see this exercise, am I what are we getting stronger or what
are we strengthening? Or is that an activation thing
before hitting? Like what?
Where does that kind of stuff fall into?
Or are those buckets just not good buckets to think about
stuff? In no great buckets, great
buckets. Let me, let me turn back around.
Sit down South. Those are, those are great
examples and I love that kind of movement.
But then I also think about like just doing like A1 legged farmer
squat or just, you know, things like that and just like getting
muscles stronger, right? And like what's the appropriate
amount of each type of exercise? What matters?
And like, yeah, I, I'd love to hear your take on on that.
One legged 1 legged farmer squat golf functional or not?
No. Not golf specific, no.
OK, throwing a Met Ball against the wall, golf specific or not?
More golf specific, yeah. More golf specific like this.
If you're doing like. Maybe maybe like this, maybe
like this. That's not golf Pacific.
That would that would actually accentuate a slice, right?
You're you're turning your your trail shoulder.
You're not keeping it back, right.
OK, so I don't, I don't want to get into a boxing match here,
right? But here's here's the thing.
First of all, what this does is activates every part of your
body, not just not just some of it, not just little parts, every
part all at once. The next thing is when we're
talking about speed, we need to learn that there's three types
of muscle once called type one. That's endurance type muscle.
That would be like what you would use to to run a marathon.
Number 2 is type 2A and that's a combination of fast switch and
endurance. And so if you're running a mile,
you need both, both of those, you can't Sprint as fast as you
possibly can. And #3 would be type 2B where
you're, you're going all out as fast as you can possibly go just
for a short period of time. That's what a full golf swing
is. So what we need to do is we need
to find and train those type to be the fastest twitch muscles to
for the brain to connect with them.
It takes a while, right? Just just like it took you a
while to to reach 28188. But when we find them, and we
learn how to do the exercises correctly, if as with as much
intent and enthusiasm and force as we can put into them, then
the brain starts to rate code once it finds out that you're
safe. Is first of all sends a
frequency, right? And once it finds out you're
safe and you push harder and harder and harder, it sends that
frequency faster and faster and faster.
OK. And then it starts to do
something called rate code and it'll find little muscles that
you didn't know you have really close to to your primary to add
those. That's why when you do like the
hit system, I see you got your hits golf, Golf Club in back of
you. They're getting back in.
That's why the HIT system works so well.
Is is because you spend time over, over time.
I think fast 80 teachers like 12 weeks or 16 weeks, you're
teaching the brain to find those fast twitch fibers more and
more. And as long as long as it feels
it's safe, it will let you go faster.
And we'll rate code. And then within his program, and
I've done it plenty within his program, you start out light,
then you go to medium, then you, then you, then you go to have it
heavy and you're going as hard as you possibly can, finding
those, finding those fast twitch fibers and in your speeds start
to gradually come up. Got it.
So if you were coaching me, would you have me doing
exercises like a deadlift or goblet squat like in the gym?
Would you have me doing basic stuff to get?
Stronger. OK, let me give you a little
history. OK, OK, first of all, I was all
around athlete in high school, OK, and and I was AI was a like
a fast twitch like I was I I ran the a sub to 800 meter, which we
used to call 880 long time ago and all district basketball
player baseball from when I was like a college baseball player
all all that stuff right. So then I was a Navy SEAL for 22
years. I, I did all the stuff that
you're talking about and more. Then I played four years,
college golf, all Navy volleyball player, all these
things, right? I have done nothing but Las that
Rotex and Las nothing it. It has been a point of mine for
about 10 months and at the age of in my 75th year, I'm almost
76. I'll be 76 the first part of
next month. But at the age of 75, in my 75th
year, I improved my driving distance by 30 to 40 yards.
Just only doing this. Not, you know, if you look
around my studio, you could see I got all the stuff that you're
talking about. Got a got a landmine and I got
pull up, pull up and dip, dip bars and TRX and whatever you
call the encore thing. I don't, I don't ever use any of
that stuff anymore. I'm not saying it's bad.
All good except for I'm the experiment and I'm just working
out of myself and plus every single thing I do is in some way
golf functional and it makes my body be better, feel better,
perform better. Well, I mean, I think that that
answers my question because I'll shout out my buddy Chris here.
He he's been on, we've done videos with him.
He he's a friend. He's super strong.
He's so strong, right? Just like great, you know, like
super strong. I can't say it enough, but he is
not fast like with his so explain that then if someone so
he's very strong, like can lift a lot and is in great shape and
he's pretty mobile too. But like he, he cannot hit.
He cannot swing fast. OK, so I, I, I have AI have a
quiz for you. I do this in every one of my
every one of my seminars. OK, All right.
So there are 7 components of athleticism, speed, strength,
flexibility, coordination, agility, balance and
ambidexterity. Which one's the most important
for golf Speed. Coordination is coordination.
You have to coordinate. You have to be able to.
That's what you've done to get yourself to 188 is you've
coordinated every part of your body.
And again, I'll say it until like it doesn't need to be said
anymore. Every part of your body, from
the bottoms of your feet, which is only thing that touches the
ground, to the palms of your hand, which is the only thing
that touches the grip of your club, and everything in between
on every single exercise. I mean, it makes a lot of sense,
right? Like, yeah, being able to
coordinate things is so important.
Like, I think back to research that doctor Sasha McKenzie did
on your ability to manage force in your lead foot is so
important because if you can't manage it, then you can't get
more speed because you can't coordinate that new force
putting in there. Sasha, I'm sorry, I'm probably
butchering this whole concept, but I'm going to try to wade my
way through here. But like your ability to
coordinate the forces that you're putting into the ground
and if you can do that or not is going to allow you to have more
speed now. So like, I love that.
I, I think that's, that's 100% right.
So like, how do we improve our coordination?
And that's the, that's the question, right?
Like, how do we, how do we get better at it?
Yeah, simple, simple exercises. Really, really and truly simple
exercises. Rotating, turning all the way to
the end and activating every every fiber in your body from
the bottom of your feet, palms, your hand.
Now let me get back to what you just said real quick.
OK, this this really bear saying, OK, golf is taught in
many, many, many, many different ways, as you know, right, So and
and so is backswing load, so is initiation.
So is followed through there. And, and I think Greg Rose says
that there's a thousand different ways to swing, swing a
golf, but there's not 1000 good ways to swing a Golf Club.
There's just 1000 ways, right? But anyhow, just talking about
the lead foot as it applies, right?
There are three ways that a joint or part of the body can
respond. One is active movement, right.
You take the bottom of that left foot and you actively push up,
push down into the ground, push forward to where it makes your
body go back. The next one is is resistive.
You resist that and let something else make a movement
down to there where it create rapid deceleration and the other
one's passive. You don't you don't do anything
with it at all. I will.
I'll tell you one thing that we know emphatically.
Eddie is fast Eddie is number 2 is he actively swings with this
up here. We just have have proved it over
and over and over again and put the icing on the cake with
Doctor Boone is he swings as fast as he can here and
everything that's happening that you see below is a reaction to
this is reaction to it not it's not actually the initial
movement. Interesting.
So knowing this then is one of the things you figured out when
working with with Eddie is that this right shoulder thing is
very important. What does that mean?
What does that mean for the rest of us?
If that's like, if that's something that's really
important to him, is that something that I should should
look at as well and like everyone else should think
about? Well, I'll get back to something
I said earlier is if we do a study of the inside of the body,
we can learn what are your assets, what are your greatest
assets? What are you trying to
accomplish? Like I think you were present
when Doctor Boone said to Eddie's got a big, powerful
butt, right? Yeah.
OK. He does, can confirm.
Yeah. But what what we, what we learn,
learn with the diagnostic ultrasound, the percentages of
contraction relatively wasn't that much, right.
So that's a power power muscle, but not speed.
OK. So, so we can identify which
muscles have the capacity to go as fast as you can in your body,
which muscles are the power muscles, which muscles are
stabilized, which muscles are the decelerators.
And, and then, and then we can, we can take it, take it from
there. You know, I, I know it sounds
kind of complicated, but, but really across the board,
everybody, most people are pretty much the same.
And you know, let's, let's take other sports, right?
You ever watch tennis? OK, tennis players when they
serve, like I'm talking about professional tennis players when
they serve on the ground or off the ground.
Off the ground. Off the ground.
OK Where's the speed coming from here, right?
I was an all Navy volleyball player.
I'm up in the air spiking. Where's the speed come from
here, right? I mean, you know, yeah, core.
Like if you're hitting a tennis volley, right?
Core here, here's a good here, here's a good quiz for you.
Corey. Why do tennis players grunt or
yell? Oh boy, I don't know.
For more power. They're, they're creating, yeah,
they're creating rapid deceleration of the core, so the
arm will go faster. OK.
That makes sense. Yep, Yep, it does.
It does, yeah. Because they're utilizing that
kind of like the kind of in golf we have like the kinematic
sequence right from like, yeah, big they're doing the same
thing, right. And So what you're saying is
they got to get that maximum whip of the arm and then
ultimately the the racket out? Exactly.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
Interesting. OK, yeah, I guess.
So back to my I'll. I'll go back to my question
then. Should we be focusing on this
right shoulder then and how, what is this something we train?
Do we like think about it more in the golf swing or like what
have you learned? So the way I learned this, and
I'll, and I'll tell something I've, I've said many, many
times, but there are chances that other people on your
podcast here have heard it or, you know, basically low.
I first met Eddie in 2017, had a hurt wrist.
And then then I saw him again in 2/8/2018 and he he won a world
championship, senior World long bride championship.
We didn't reconvene until one of his good friends finally talked
to him in using the Rotech motion equipment and he used it
for 12 weeks before the 2022 World championship.
I met him there and he said, Doc, get your popcorn ready
because because I have felt, I feel better than I ever have in
my life. And he was right.
So the five exercises that he showed you for activation, we
did those five and we did one more with, with a tube, but
basically the same stuff when he's, he did a couple of warmups
with I think A6 iron and then he went straight to driver.
And this is in warm up before the competition, right?
His 4th fall in warm up was 140, nine mile, 149.5 miles an hour
and his ball speed was 221. The 4th ball in warm up is ready
to go. Didn't do anything else, just
just those, right. So I started asking him
questions, right? Yeah.
You ever like you have back spasms?
You ever been hurt in your spine, your shoulder, your hips,
whatever. Nope.
So that was, that was like my gold mine is if I were to
develop a research project, first of all, I have to come up
with a hypothesis, right? And say this is what I write my
hypothesis. What I want to do is I want to
in 35 years, which is as long as Eddie's been competing, right?
In 35 years, I want to build a human being that never gets his
back hurt ever, or his shoulders or, or his hip or, or any any
major injuries to his body. And I want him to win three
world championship by the time he's 54, Right.
OK, so after hypothesis, I got to wait 35 years to find out if
my hypothesis is true. So all we had to do was we had
to reverse Eddie's swing, reverse engineer it.
And that's what I've been doing for the past four years with
him. And at first, for the first
couple of years, we, we talked on the phone much, much more
than we talked to our wives. For sure.
We were, we were on the phone for for an hour a day, every
single day. And at that time, he knew very,
very little about the inside of the body.
And then I knew absolutely nothing about his swing.
And so we combine the knowledge and now I truly believe he's
he's one of the premier speed coaches in the world because of
the things that we've put together about how to use the
inside of the body and what he's actually doing.
Got it. Are are you going to give us
any, any of those secrets? Are we got any that we can we
can give away of what you guys learned over the last four
years? Well, we learned that he swings
different than than most knows coaches and teachers are
teaching. OK.
That's the reason if it if it if anybody watches his swing, and
I'll tell you a little story about the Korea contingent in
just a second. If anybody watches his swing,
you would swear that he wasn't swinging over 120.
Klep has feet. He would swear it right.
But in fact, at age 52, he was. I saw him swing 112158 and 228.
No, excuse me, one 5155 and 228. Yeah, that's booking.
And that's 52 years old. OK, so the secret is that his
intent is to swing this arm as fast as he can possibly possibly
swing it and let his brain organize his his lower body to
how is going to accept that speed.
That's but I'm I am not saying that that's how to swing a club.
I'm saying that that's how fast Eddie swings a club.
I think in, in my, you know, I've, I've been at this stuff
for a long time and an injury reduction, longevity, speed,
strength, all this stuff, I've been in it a long time.
I think it's the simplest, most effective, most efficient and
the least chance of injury with the most longevity way to swing
a club. Is focusing on the trail arm and
the trail shoulder. Yep, Yep, got it.
Boy, we got a lot of people who are going to go to the range
right now or to the simulator and going to be thinking about
their right arm, Joe. Yeah, so.
OK, what do they think about everybody?
There's a little. Running for their simulator.
Yeah, there's a little point right as the front part of the
shoulder blade that 3 important muscles for speed attach.
And when I tell you when I tell you the readings that we got
from diagnostic ultrasound from Doctor Boone on those are
insane. They are freaking insane, right.
It it is amazing. Other parts of his body that you
think would be have more of a muscle contraction.
Don't that they, you know, still he's going to beat the average
Joe off the street, right? But but they just, they just
don't. He's using the fastest part of
his body to swing as hard as he can and he's only using that one
part of his body to create the fastest swing puzzle.
I I told you I'd tell you about the Korean contingent.
So there there's a guy in Orlando, I forget his name.
He's he's a really great instructor and.
He said, hey, I got eight really top pros that I work with in
Korea and they said there's no way that you're swinging over
120. You must, must be souping up
your, your track mat, right? Said Eddie.
Eddie and I go out and like within 4 balls, he's at 1:52
and, and the, the, the pro knelt down once to put the ball in the
tee and, and Eddie hit it and almost blew his eardrums out.
Oh. Man.
Yeah, yeah. What?
So the right arm thing, something that's that I'm just
curious about and what you think plays a part in that then is is
in Eddie's case, he he he was showing it as some pictures of
played baseball as a pitcher growing up in in high.
School. And think about obviously tons
of speed generating from that same kind of motion of what
you're saying. Like do you do you think there's
an element here of like some of this, hey, he was in this
environment before throwing really hard as a pitcher and
then bringing that into golf And like, do you think that's that's
had a part in in that? For sure.
So I have a question for you. What do Major League pitchers,
NFL quarterbacks and hockey players have in common?
They learn golf so fast and get really, really good really fast
because they understand the element of throwing, right?
You know, if we take it from the physics language, there is
throwing, and swinging is a subcategory of throwing.
So what you're actually doing is you're throwing a club as hard
as you can into the ground. Got it.
Very interesting. I think that this, this message
resonates with a lot of people. I mean, it makes sense to me
what what I mean. How do you train this?
Like is this something that you think I should think about
training of? Like thinking about this right
shoulder, right arm a bit more as I swing?
Like, is that something to think about?
Yeah. Yeah, when you swing, yes.
When you swing, yes, absolutely. But you don't train it right.
You do. You do exercises that that get
every piece of tissue hard and soft.
Hard being the bone and soft being everything else in your
body, from the bottom of your feet to the palms of your hand.
You activate everything, you strengthen everything in those
fascial lines where you have all 7 fascial lines covered.
And your brain can, it's like super highways of information
going to your brain in your brain can find stuff so much, so
much more easily. Got it, got it.
OK, interesting. Interesting.
Well, maybe I, I want to end with this is kind of a, an
ending point for folks or if there's anything else you have
to say. But let's say you have control
of my schedule. You can put book anything you
want on my schedule. And I've told you my goal is to
get to 200 ball speed, right? So I have to get faster, I have
to get stronger. What do you have me doing in the
gym to get my body in a place where I can swing what, what am
I at right now? Like 112128 right now?
So I have to get about a little under 10 mile an hour faster,
right? It's like what, what, what would
you have me doing in the gym? How often?
Like what would what would you put on my calendar and what
would I be doing? OK, so I do about 5 minutes in
the morning and about 5 minutes in the evening in that system
that I just showed you. No more, no less, no more, no no
less. What it is again, is making
connections and creating coordination.
You're going to, you're going to do much, much more with
coordination than you are going to be do building mirror
muscles. You know what mirror muscles
are, right? I don't, I'm sorry.
Those are those are the muscles that that you're looking in the
mirror and you want to get bigger.
Yeah, got it. Oh man, I look good.
I don't do that right now. I'd love to do that one.
And I think that I think that's a really a really good thing,
right? So let me, let me talk about
your book, OK, This is I'm telling you, buddy, I, you know,
when when I got this, I'm going the scoring edge.
OK, let's see, let's see, right. And first of all, there's there
is like this whole book is chock full of like really, really
great stuff from from great coaches.
I know some of them right? But when I open it up to page
97, OK, right, that you don't have to turn there.
I'll tell you. OK, no, we'll.
We'll turn there with you. We'll turn there together.
Colby's training Truth. Yes.
I have been teaching this for the past 20 years.
I would order order them a little bit different, but this
is exactly, exactly what I teach.
OK, so #4 I would put as #1 fix imbalances in your body 1st and
with with this program that you're going to do OK, you'll be
able to fix imbalances like so quickly.
You won't you won't believe. OK, then the next one would be
build strength that transfers every exercise that you're going
to be doing transfers directly over to your golf swing,
directly over, right. The next thing is don't build a
cannon on a canoe. And you already mentioned that,
right? Is is like, you know, build,
build and mirror muscles. Then the next one is train fast
to move fast. And then the next one, the
reason I do all this stuff at night before I go to bed is
recovery is part of the program. So listen, I, I want to, I want
to make a point. You got 4-4 really young kids,
right? OK, If one of them, if one of
them learns golf right, OK, after they play golf, they
should be doing some sort of recovery exercise to get them
back to where they were at Ground Zero before they play
golf. Because most, most people think,
oh, this a good golf posture, but really a good ball GG
posture is a worst possible posture, except for a catcher in
baseball, the worst possible posture and you could get right,
your hips are rotated, your your pelvis is wrote down, your arms
are in like this. You'd never want your kids to
walk around like that. So, so that's part of the
recovery program is to is to correct that right and and have
them have a good posture as their default.
Got it. Interesting.
Yeah. I like it.
Do you do you mind me? You mind me posting this on my
Instagram? Dude, dude, I appreciate it.
I'm I'm glad you enjoyed. That I'm telling you they're,
they're, you know, Bernie Nazor wrote a really, really good,
good book. There's been some other friends
of mine that wrote good books, but I never posted.
I'm going to post this one. It's awesome.
It was so fun putting together and just like, first of all, it
was able to go remind me of all the great people that I've like
gotten a privilege to learn from.
And it's like, you realize that it's so hard to remember
everything we learned, right? And so this is a way for me to
like, OK, these are the things that we need to remember.
And if we can remember them a little bit better, then I think
we're all going to, we're all going to improve and we're all
going to be a bit smarter. So.
Yeah. So when I practice, it's.
Fun to put together. When I practice at age almost
76, I got my phone with me writing notes because I know I'm
going to forget it by the next day for sure.
Yes, exactly. Well, Doctor Joe, thank you so
much for your time, I think. Thank you.
Thank you for spending our time with me.
No. I love answering questions.
So many, so many people have sent me messages and it's like,
should I get the road text? Like what do you what do you
think about them? And I was like, I don't know how
to describe it, but I think it's great.
So now I know how to describe it.
I know exactly what's going on and, and we can easily tell
people, hey, this is what it does and it's really, really
good. So.
Super super. That'll be that'll be very good.
But OK, where people should go get these tell, tell people
where they should get them, what they should get and and that
kind of stuff. OK.
So we've got multiple platforms, right, And multiple educational
platforms within those platforms.
So where they can actually purchase is rotexmotion.com or
our free Rotex Motion app, OK? Where they can learn the best is
youtube.com/rotex Motion. OK, got it.
And we've got extensive libraries of of the the videos
and and they're categorized of what how they will help you in
in certain way. So let me let me give you a code
for your listeners. OK.
Tell tell your tell your listeners don't don't share it,
OK? It's just, it's just it just if
you're here and you're cool. Yeah.
So if they want to buy the combo set, which is those two floor
models like 1G show, there's they come in sets.
Both of them are a set and then a handheld model that's called
the combo. So use golf well 10 for a 10%
discount on that. Perfect.
And then there's one more thing. Is that a good place to start?
Is that? Yeah, that's a perfect, perfect
place to start. Yes, it's already bundle, it's
already, it's already discounted in a bundle $69, right.
So they're, you're getting more than that for the people that
want to get that Las the, the slide by, by the way,
exponentially the best exercise system that I've, I've ever
done, let alone, you know, I, I'm biased.
I invented it. But but I, you know, somebody
gave told me that they'd give me $10 million and I'd never be
able to use that again. I I would be, I wouldn't don't
want to say I wouldn't take it, but I don't think I would
because it's changed my physical life.
But anyhow, the people that already own Rotex and want to
get just the Las use RM owner 15 for 15% discount.
Yeah, there's a, there's a bundle called the call.
There's a bundle called the complete package and it's
already bundled 20% off. So I had to match it with people
that already had the Rotex to you know, I don't like to, to
give my, my already customers a, a bad deal, right?
That's that's one reason we never have sales, never had a
sale in 18 years is because I, you know, if I don't want to
give people advantage over people that have been following
me for a long time. Makes sense.
Well, this is, This is really
cool. We've got, we know how it works,
we know why it works. We know what to do.
And now we know what to get. And you've, you've given us a
discount code. So thank you.
My pleasure. Thank you.
Go. On the YouTube channel as well
because that's where you can like learn more from you there.
So you can learn it better. It's more more recent than than
my my.com and my app, and I'm actually taking an elite golfer
through the basic exercises. First time she ever did them.
So I'm teaching her like I would somebody in my studio.
Perfect. Well, thank you, Doctor Joe.
It was fun to hang out. We'll we'll talk to you soon.