1 00:00:01,900 --> 00:00:04,900 We're on a mission to help golfers from all over the world, 2 00:00:04,900 --> 00:00:07,500 achieve their goals by understanding what it actually 3 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:10,400 takes to play their best golf. We're talking with leading 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,500 instructors, researchers, and players themselves to find what 5 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:25,200 is actually working You are listening to the golf Science 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,400 Lab podcast. Thanks for hanging out today and 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,500 it is Masters week. One of the best weeks of the 8 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:35,500 Year typically, an April around, my wife's birthday, throws a 9 00:00:35,500 --> 00:00:39,100 wrinkle in my master celebrations most years, but the 10 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:40,900 good news is, it won't be happening this year because 11 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:45,700 we're in November, so excited to dive in and did a really cool 12 00:00:45,700 --> 00:00:51,200 Roundtable conversation last week with, for Coaches and this 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,700 is actually with golf.com that I did this, but really phenomenal 14 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:57,200 conversation I want to share with you, it's with Jeff Smith 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,700 who works with Victor hovland who's actually not playing in 16 00:00:59,708 --> 00:01:01,300 the Masters. This year, seems kind of 17 00:01:01,308 --> 00:01:03,900 unbelievable, but he has worked with players in the past who 18 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:05,099 played the Masters in been there. 19 00:01:05,300 --> 00:01:09,700 We also have Chris O'Connell Chris works with Matt Kuchar who 20 00:01:09,700 --> 00:01:12,700 obviously has a phenomenal track record at the Masters. 21 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:15,100 So, tons of great insights from him and then we have Jamie 22 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:18,700 Mulligan who works with Patrick can't lay, he is playing really 23 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:21,100 well right now. Really serious Contender. 24 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:24,200 This master is so phenomenal, conversation with these guys. 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,400 They have just a ton of insights into how they're preparing for 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,700 the Masters, what they're doing beforehand, what they're doing? 27 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:32,700 They're while on-site and some insights into strategy, this is 28 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:35,400 jam-packed with good stuff. So let's Dive Right into this 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,000 conversation with the guys appreciate golf.com putting this 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,300 together. The sponsor for this episode is 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,100 whoop. You haven't heard a whoop, it is 32 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:49,400 a fitness tracker. 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Is there enough strain, is there 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,800 not enough and look at all those different things in the Gulf 49 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,000 context, I just the other day, really interesting, I found that 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,300 playing All's walking was the same amount of strain as playing 51 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:48,000 18, holes riding in a cart. There's so many good things from 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,800 whoop. You should check it out. 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:55,200 We got 15% off your route membership code GSL. 15% off GSL 54 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:58,300 head over to whoop.com and check that out. 55 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,700 Definitely recommend picking one up. 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Hey everyone. Welcome down to our masters 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,100 Roundtable, presented by CDW. We have some awesome instructors 58 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:16,900 here with us. We're going to talk about how 59 00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:19,200 they are getting their players ready. 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Let's dive in, get to know a little bit each of the 61 00:03:21,208 --> 00:03:23,700 instructors who they're working with that kind of stuff. 62 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:26,600 Let's start with You. Chris Chris, tell us who you 63 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,000 work with kind of your relationship, your coaching 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,200 relationship with them. As far as Augusta. 65 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,500 I'll just have one player be a Matt Kuchar, Matt. 66 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:40,100 And I started working in Six. So it doesn't seem that long, 67 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:46,400 but we've had had a good run and makes makes my work pretty easy 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,100 for one. You have one guy at a 69 00:03:48,108 --> 00:03:51,400 tournament, so this will be his man. 70 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,000 I'm going to say, 10th, Masters since I've been with him. 71 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:58,600 I think he qualified the 2010 and then he's qualified every 72 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,800 year. So, as the other instructors, 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,900 know, sometimes it tournament. You got three, four, five, guys, 74 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:06,300 you're looking after. So to look after one guy is 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,500 pretty. Is in math. 76 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:12,100 Pretty low maintenance, is it? Is he kind of, does it get to to 77 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,600 ruffled? And so I'm looking forward to 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,100 it. It'll be an interesting week. 79 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:17,700 It's hard to wrap your head around. 80 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:20,899 Here we are October 31st in the Masters is coming up. 81 00:04:20,899 --> 00:04:24,600 So but looking forward to it and it'll be an interesting 82 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,900 experience. They're going to allow the 83 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:31,700 instructors to stay on for the week and actually watch the 84 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:33,300 tournament which will be be great. 85 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:36,800 I think I think I guest is a great course for spectators to 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,500 sit and Watch. It's a tough course to kind of 87 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:42,600 follow your player to get a good vantage point, but it's not 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,400 looking forward to that shouldn't have any problem. 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Getting advantage. Point. 90 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:49,400 Jamie, let's bounce to you. Good morning. 91 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,200 Yeah, I Patrick can't lie. I've been working with Patrick 92 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,100 since he was 7 years old for over 20 years now, I actually 93 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:58,200 started playing golf with his grandfather. 94 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,400 When I was an assistant at the club that I'm the CEO at 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,100 Virginia country club in Long Beach and then I taught his 96 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:06,100 father as well. It was a club champion at our 97 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:10,100 club and I have been with, you know, Patrick and basically 98 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:13,900 started M and this couple watch his Ascent, all the good things 99 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:18,000 that he's done. This is our 27th trip to Augusta 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,300 with pliers of that. I've been with Patrick about 101 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:24,100 four or five times as well as when he was an amateur there and 102 00:05:24,100 --> 00:05:27,300 really looking forward to it. As Chris says, it's a, it's an 103 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:31,100 amazing golf course in many ways and definitely an amazing Golf 104 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:33,200 Course for a bunch of gallery. It's going to be interesting 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,400 with 47 coaches out there trying to have Beth It's on lemonade to 106 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,800 see who's Clara place better. So we're looking forward to it. 107 00:05:40,808 --> 00:05:45,300 A lot and as we all know, it's a magical spot and there's nothing 108 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:46,900 like the Masters. We can feel it. 109 00:05:46,900 --> 00:05:49,200 Now just getting ready to Adorn. Donna Lincoln, it's not even 110 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,800 going to be there for another 10 days. 111 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:53,600 Thanks Jeff. Actually this year, I don't have 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,700 a player in the field but I've been to three in the last four, 113 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,700 but some of my players are and wise, Scott, Piercy also work 114 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:05,500 with Victor hovind who unfortunately would normally 115 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:09,400 probably be in the field this year but With the cutoff because 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,400 of covid. He's kind of kind of left out of 117 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,100 the field with his win earlier in the year. 118 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:17,400 So yeah. Like, these guys mentioned as a 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,400 coach Augusta's, not like any other week tour for us, there's 120 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,900 a, there's a lot of restrictive movements. 121 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:26,800 There's a lot of places where we have to be and where we can't 122 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,100 be. And so it's a for me, it's been, 123 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:31,100 it's been a strange experience because it's completely 124 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:34,500 different routine than what we normally have on, you know 125 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:37,200 during the week where maybe we're walking practice. 126 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:38,900 Rounds where our players were on the floor. 127 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:40,900 On the greens are on the golf course. 128 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,300 That's, that's pretty restricted at Augusta. 129 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:47,300 So you don't quite get the same probably detail or level of work 130 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:50,100 that we would normally get on a normal tour week. 131 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,300 Let's talk about tournament prep. 132 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:55,300 Let's talk about, you know, how to get players, ready for a 133 00:06:55,308 --> 00:06:59,100 major, two to four weeks out. And I think, you know, what will 134 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:01,300 bounce to you, Jamie? Because very interesting. 135 00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:05,200 Patrick coming off a win obviously playing really well. 136 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:09,100 Do you find that? It's More difficult, or there's 137 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:11,800 more pressure applied. So it's, you know, that whole 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,900 aspect going into a major after, you know, a big win and playing 139 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:18,300 well like that. Yeah, you stole my punchline 140 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:19,600 there. I was going to say we like to 141 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,500 win within a month of the major makes a lot easier to get ready 142 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:26,600 to go. We're huge on, you know, we were 143 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,100 on this system all the time, with all of our players and 144 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:32,700 everybody that we can add the 15, LPGA RPG players that we've 145 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:35,200 ever work with, we kind of put them in what we think call this 146 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,100 the wheel and the wheel is as a matter of all these Spokes and 147 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:41,500 our job is to keep the Stokes great and they all have 148 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:44,000 different mannerisms and different ways about what they 149 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,400 need to do. And the spokes are kind of a 150 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 conic for whatever they're doing in those little areas, and our 151 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 job is to keep them straight. And also, our job is the 152 00:07:53,008 --> 00:07:55,900 instructors to see how straight we can keep them all year long 153 00:07:55,900 --> 00:07:58,800 and whether it's major or whether it's a regular event. 154 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,000 So we've done, I think a pretty good job in our mind and my mind 155 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 and our players lines of not changing the spokes up too much. 156 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,000 And if they get that Lisa Why they're bent and you try to work 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,600 on them. So interesting, with Patrick 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,600 like for a couple months since we got back from the break, he's 159 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,400 been trending, really, really nice. 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,900 Like a spectacular round in an event and a really solid ground 161 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:23,900 than a so so round and kind of an indifferent round but off the 162 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:27,000 away from the tournament and watching him crap and watching 163 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,600 him, do his gig rather it was nutrition or Fitness or how he 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,400 was working on as motion, or rolling the ball or short game 165 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,000 and all looked on point, but we Weren't getting quite the 166 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,700 results that were trying to. So to have this last week and 167 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:45,400 watch him come together and you know, we stayed out in Malibu 168 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,500 house week and my clubs and Long Beach and our member guess was 169 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:50,100 going on. So I was kind of driving back 170 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:53,200 and forth and every day when I drove back to go to the club 171 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,500 before I drove out to Malibu, I was thinking that he's on point. 172 00:08:56,500 --> 00:08:58,900 He looks really really great. So it's fun when that thing 173 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:01,800 comes to fruition and right now we're going to keep him in the 174 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,500 bubble. He actually went out there and 175 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,700 played yesterday and they had a great There. 176 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:10,300 We were going to go out and actually play with him and we 177 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:12,300 have all the fires in California, so we thought it 178 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:15,700 would be best to stay home and be safe around here, but he's 179 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:17,500 ready to go. So now we'll just kind of keep 180 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:20,400 them in chill mode and he's great at that as well to, he can 181 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,000 stay, you know, in different in his mind and not quite worried 182 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,500 about things and he's done enough. 183 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:27,900 Now that we're ready. And then when we get back on 184 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:30,600 Monday to start, we'll do our regular things in order to 185 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,900 prepare and get ready. Jeff. 186 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:35,800 What about instruction? You know, as far as technical 187 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,900 teaching what Kinds of things. Are you willing to work on 188 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,300 leading up to a major, two to four weeks out? 189 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:44,600 And what kinds of things are? You not willing to work on? 190 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:48,500 Yeah, I don't really think it's any different for major than it 191 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:50,800 is. You know, the normal course of 192 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,400 the year, every player is got, you know, a set of for the 193 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,900 fundamentals that they're working on from a technique 194 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:59,300 standpoint. And when you get to this level 195 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:02,800 of coaching, those things don't change very often, it's just 196 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,700 executing on those things better and better and better. 197 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:10,400 So for a major, You're I find myself gravitating more towards 198 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,300 like the escalation. These guys know what they're 199 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:16,600 playing for. They get ramped up themselves, 200 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,900 they know that a Majors coming up, they put more pressure on 201 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:23,500 themselves and necessary. So I find myself really trying 202 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:26,100 to like minimize the expectation. 203 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:30,600 Minimize the moment, make them more aware of, you know, their 204 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,400 basic fundamentals and not really try to go outside the box 205 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,200 and reach a lot because that's the first thing, a Laird will do 206 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,300 when they when they feel a lot of pressure of the big moment or 207 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:44,000 a big tournament, they'll be like, hey, what do you think 208 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,800 about this? Look at this part of my swing, 209 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,600 you know, all these things that we've never even talked about 210 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,100 before. Now this popping up and and I 211 00:10:51,108 --> 00:10:53,100 think that's just the response to stress. 212 00:10:53,100 --> 00:10:57,100 So my job in that moment or that role is to really just kind of 213 00:10:57,100 --> 00:11:00,200 deescalate, make them comfortable and make sure that 214 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,900 they're focused on the things that actually matched, truly 215 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:05,400 matter to their game and then playing their best call. 216 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,100 Totally Chris. Let's bounce. 217 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:10,300 To you two to four weeks out. What are you and Matt working 218 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:12,000 on? What is kind of the weekly 219 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,200 routine look like. And what is the practice? 220 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,100 You know, on a very practical standpoint, what's actually 221 00:11:18,100 --> 00:11:23,100 going on the stairs, a little different for us. 11 months that 222 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:25,300 are actually 51 weeks out of the Year. 223 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:28,700 Matt Kuchar wants to fade or even slice the ball. 224 00:11:29,300 --> 00:11:32,100 And then about the first part of March, he starts asking me how 225 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:36,300 to hit a draw, because March he starts thinking about Augusta 226 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:39,700 and If I have two conversations with Matt, number one, I talked 227 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:43,700 about Jack Nicklaus who played a fade and 16 Green Jackets, to 228 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:46,500 kind of tell him. It doesn't have to draw the ball 229 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:49,200 but then we will work on it. There's a couple holes, 230 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,500 particularly 10, and 13, which are beneficial if you can move 231 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:57,100 the ball right to left. So that's always an interesting 232 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,800 whenever he asked about that. That's when I know Masters week 233 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,600 is coming because the guy. Absolutely, I've never met. 234 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,100 Anybody has more disdain for a ball going left than that. 235 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,200 Pitcher. So, and the second thing that he 236 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,700 gets really kind of tuned in on as he wants to have complete 237 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:17,800 control in his short game and I say control. 238 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,400 He wants to see how much spin he can generate Augusta's Graves 239 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,600 gets so firm and fast, especially late in the day and 240 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,400 if you don't have spin on your golf ball it, I made you could 241 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,000 hit two chips that are seemingly the same and they could end up 242 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,000 30 30 feet apart. So he's really big on. 243 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,800 His contact in short game and trying to spin the ball and 244 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,300 then, you know, he wants to be able to draw the ball, you know, 245 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:47,500 where 10 and 13. Other than that out there, I 246 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:52,500 don't think drawing the ball is that important, but it's always 247 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:55,500 what we spent 51 weeks trying to not, make it go that way. 248 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:58,400 And then all of a sudden he thinks, he, he need to size a 249 00:12:58,408 --> 00:13:00,600 little bit. What Jeff said were sometimes, I 250 00:13:00,608 --> 00:13:04,800 think players maybe make it over complicated instead of just kind 251 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,300 of sticking with, with what? From there, they all said and 252 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:12,800 think they got to do something special to win a major and the 253 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,800 majors are it's still 72-hole, golf tournament. 254 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,300 I mean, it's nothing more than that. 255 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:21,500 So did you get the text where he was asking how to hit a draw 256 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:22,800 this year already? Yeah. 257 00:13:22,900 --> 00:13:25,000 Okay. But it didn't happen to me, I 258 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,400 think you kind of forgot that the Masters was coming up so he 259 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:33,400 didn't ask a month in advance. He just asks a last week, that's 260 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,000 great. So I the theme is kind of desk. 261 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:41,100 Elation that I'm hearing from all of you is we're just kind 262 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:44,300 of, I think Chris what you just said right there is do what got 263 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:46,700 you there and not try to go outside the box or do anything. 264 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:50,000 Different is kind of the key concur here, for sure. 265 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,900 I love the word, the escalation and when you think about it, I 266 00:13:52,908 --> 00:13:54,300 mean, this is what they do for a living. 267 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:57,000 This is what we do for a living, the moments. 268 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,400 Going to make it bigger than it is and they're preparing their 269 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,000 whole life in order to make the moment, you know, the way that 270 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,800 it is, so they can perform and they can grab a trophy at the 271 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,600 end and The more normal that you do in our business to make 272 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,800 everything whether they're practicing playing around at 273 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,100 home, playing around with somebody playing in a tournament 274 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:18,900 or playing you know overseas whoever they are the more normal 275 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:21,100 you can make it the more similar that you can make it the better 276 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:25,300 that it is nitty-gritty details. Is there any kind of like games 277 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:28,100 that you're having people use? Is there anything of are you 278 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:31,400 guys a fan of, you know, visualizing a certain whole and 279 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,700 trying to, you know, hit shots to that and trying to dial and 280 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:38,100 you know, shop patterns or any kind of games are Eels which you 281 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:41,300 feel are really helpful when preparing for some big 282 00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:43,300 tournament. Yeah that mean you just 283 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:46,300 mentioned it right there. I've stood on the range with you 284 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:49,300 know the yards, a book from Augusta, some of my players in 285 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:52,400 preparation and they're kind of going through every tee shot in 286 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,700 their mind. You know, will will create sort 287 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:58,800 of a visual barrier on the Range that represents, you know, the 288 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,200 second hole where you got to hit a big draw around the corner or 289 00:15:02,208 --> 00:15:07,000 whatever and you know, it's a lot of players will do that. 290 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:10,500 Ln Fact, one of my players was practicing this week at medalist 291 00:15:10,500 --> 00:15:13,000 and tiger was out there doing exactly that. 292 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,000 So had his yardage book out, what's going through every 293 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,800 single tee shot. I think that's a pretty common 294 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,500 common thing. The other thing that a lot of my 295 00:15:22,508 --> 00:15:25,800 guys will try to do and It's Tricky, it's very difficult to 296 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,300 replicate because Augusta's greens are so fast and so 297 00:15:29,300 --> 00:15:32,700 there's so much, slow bottom. We don't really get the practice 298 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:35,200 or look at greens like that very often. 299 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,100 And so, you know, a lot of My guys, will you nobody up to the 300 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:42,100 Greenskeeper at the club wherever they practice and say, 301 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,300 hey can you can you can you double roll them? 302 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:47,100 Can you speed up this back? Shipping green for me and 303 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:50,900 they'll try to get some kind of a, some kind of a realistic look 304 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:53,900 at, you know, what? They're going to be playing that 305 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:56,600 week because I mean, honestly, like Chris mentioned chipping, 306 00:15:57,100 --> 00:15:59,700 chipping at a place. Like, Augusta is so difficult 307 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:03,500 because you never chip on speeds, that aren't on green. 308 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:07,700 Is that fast with that much slope and so I think It's a 309 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:11,400 hugely underrated skill, that's necessary to play well at the 310 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,100 Masters. And that's why you see guys 311 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:16,500 like, you know, Bernhard longer every single year at the top of 312 00:16:16,508 --> 00:16:18,600 the leaderboards. It's not necessarily because 313 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,400 he's out ball-striking everybody, he just knows how to 314 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,800 navigate those greens and can save a lot of those shots around 315 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,600 there. So that's just a couple of 316 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,900 little little things that I'll see guys do. 317 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:32,800 Yeah, Frederica and Sea Island. They've got a bunch of Tour 318 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,000 player members, their coach is a member Zach Johnson Harris, 319 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,800 English I got a bunch more but they I know they will leading up 320 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,800 to the Masters, get the greens, just 14 fast, as they can get 321 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,900 them, which is great for the guys there because they get to 322 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:51,300 kind of train for a week or two heading into Augusta. 323 00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:54,900 It's not not such a shock when you all said and show up but 324 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:58,500 that Augusta the course changes. So dramatically we've gone in 325 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:03,100 before on a Sunday before the tournament week and it's pretty 326 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:06,900 benign and then they have the ability to ramp that. 327 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,900 Lace up exactly how they want. They can get moisture out of 328 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:14,700 that place overnight. So it has the we go, the course 329 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,700 changes quite a bit, but there's sometimes when they late in the 330 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:22,500 afternoon and there's some wind blowing, I mean, those screens 331 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:25,400 are just your defensive puting, I mean you might have an 332 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,600 8-footer and you're trying to figure out how can I to but this 333 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,000 thing. So it can get dicey around 334 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 there. You can argue guy like what we 335 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,700 call running the movie all the time. 336 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:39,000 Meaning today's junior, golf And tour players Saturday at our 337 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,800 club. And for three decades at 1:00 or 338 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,200 2:00 in the afternoon, we'll have to tour players in a couple 339 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,300 of young people that were working with and they'll go out 340 00:17:47,300 --> 00:17:49,400 and play and if there's two groups of them will go out and 341 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,700 play and I'll watch golf probably watch more golf than we 342 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:55,300 will ever stand on the Range. Watching people play. 343 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:57,800 And we're running to the movie the whole time and we get to a 344 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,100 certain whole whether it's a whole that looks like the 345 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:04,200 temples out of gasca or whether it's a whole that looks like the 346 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:08,300 8th hole at Muirfield. Lawless bring that up so the 347 00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:12,200 movie sauce going maybe at nauseam for players but not even 348 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,700 listening to Patrick talk about Augusta couple days ago. 349 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:17,400 He's like you had painted the picture from all the times that 350 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,000 you've been there so well when I got there and with TV, I already 351 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,500 knew what it looked like and I think that's a big thing that 352 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:25,600 they have in their head and they know what they're going to do 353 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,700 and they know how that are actually going to play there. 354 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,600 And then I was going to say a couple of years ago we got to go 355 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,500 with Phil and prepare and Patrick and fill after they 356 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:37,800 played in the morning one day they just took their filter A 64 357 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,400 and Patrick took their 60 and they were out there for three 358 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,500 hours on the back, nine hitting pitches. 359 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,600 And Phil was kind of saying the same thing that Chris and Jeff 360 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,000 alluded to that. There's not really any place 361 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,000 that you pitch like here that sees unique is this and what was 362 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 before the tournament. And obviously it was slower to 363 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,500 go out there and just work with the guy that won the tournament 364 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:58,100 three times. So watch the pitches. 365 00:18:58,100 --> 00:18:59,100 Did he hit you? Watch them. 366 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,600 Try to spin the ball to the slopes and allow the ball to 367 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,900 matriculate down. And then lastly, every time that 368 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:07,700 were there, when we get there on a Monday, also, Like walking up 369 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:09,700 the golf course and looking out, of course we go. 370 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:12,900 Oh my God, this place is so pure regardless of where we are 371 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:16,200 because we get to go to such special venues but there's no 372 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,200 different. There's no place like a guest of 373 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,100 that changes as Chris said, more from Monday to Sunday and they 374 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:25,900 can do what they want last year, you know, got drizzly or a year 375 00:19:25,900 --> 00:19:28,900 and a half ago, got drizzly. And then by the time that you 376 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:30,800 got to Saturday you're like well I thought there was some 377 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,800 moisture and it was completely gone from a golf cart so it's 378 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,400 like they can turn the buttons pretty. 379 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Well, let's dive into At the tournament week, right? 380 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,700 Like what, what you do, let's start with the pudding because 381 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:43,600 you guys are talking about it. What are the best things you can 382 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,100 do to help a player calibrate to a different environment like 383 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:49,200 that? Yeah. 384 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,400 That's that's a very tricky one there. 385 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,800 I think one of the goals of the folks that put on the tournament 386 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,500 are to make the tour players as uncomfortable as possible and 387 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:04,400 that's sort of the defense mechanism for the golf course. 388 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,700 They want to keep you on your toes. 389 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:10,200 Keep you off my Balance and so you won't see things like 390 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,000 putting equipment down on the practice putting green, you 391 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,800 know, you're you know, I was there a couple years ago and 392 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,900 Bryson pulls out. The GC quad sets it down there 393 00:20:18,900 --> 00:20:22,200 and 10 seconds later here, come the Green Jackets you know get 394 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,200 this thing off, the putting green, you not going to see guys 395 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,300 putting levels down so there's a lot of like secrecy around the 396 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:32,000 green self, you know. There's a lot of guys on tour 397 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,600 who use, you know stuff, I came point where they're very used to 398 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:38,100 you know having slope. To knowing exactly what the 399 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:41,300 slopes are calibrating their aim point and all of that. 400 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:45,000 So you know, as far as that stuff goes, those routine stay 401 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,300 the same. You know, the guys are spent a 402 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:52,700 lot of time doing speed work on those screens again, I think to 403 00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:55,900 putt well or to play. Well there you got to have great 404 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:58,800 distance control and you got to be really really solid around 405 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,500 the whole because a lot of your a lot of your, you know, 30 40 406 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:06,400 foot lag putts. They're not they're not going to 407 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,700 end up. Up as close to the hole on that 408 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:11,400 first attempt is you would see at a normal Tour event. 409 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,700 So you're going to have a lot of five or six Footers left and 410 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,500 you'll see, you'll see it guys, guys, doing a lot of drills 411 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:20,300 around the hole and stuff like that during preparation. 412 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,000 I like the word texture work. We like this, a lot. 413 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 How the ball is actually coming off your putter, regardless of 414 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,700 where you are and with great Putters. 415 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:31,400 And, you know, Chris has gotten that probably does that as well 416 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,300 as anybody. The strike looks the same, 417 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:36,300 whether the greens are eight on the stamping or 14 on the stem 418 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:38,300 attorneys. We could controlling Distance by 419 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:41,800 letting the putter swing longer and I love that look with choirs 420 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,400 and I think about placement is really important. 421 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:47,600 I was also going to say, wow, the new driving range is almost 422 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,000 better than most golf courses and you could stay there 423 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,900 forever, for me, being an old traditionalists. 424 00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:56,000 I'm not quite sure if the new cutting green over there is 425 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 similar to the one on the golf course, but I've never seen a 426 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,100 putting green more similar than the putting green. 427 00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:03,700 That's right between the iconic one. 428 00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:06,400 That's right between one and ten, it feels exactly like the 429 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,500 golf. Course. 430 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:10,300 And I think that's a really good barometer green, and we love 431 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:13,500 going out there on Monday. When Patrick was an amateur and 432 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,000 he stayed in the Crow's Nest, you know, meet him there every 433 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,100 morning, for like an hour pot where we were just doing texture 434 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:22,700 and speed work, and it's amazing how that thing gets quicker. 435 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,900 John Merrick could really nicely there. 436 00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:28,800 His rookie year and finished six and had like a backdoor. 65 that 437 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,400 where he finished Sixth and I remember there was this like 438 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,900 20-footer that we are hitting on the far right side of the 439 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:36,800 fighting green and this 5-footer that we're hitting our way. 440 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,100 Can I do literally saw that pocket twice as quick including 441 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:44,100 the up a little 5-footer. So I think you got a gauge that 442 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:48,000 and as Chris says there is some defensive putting out there but 443 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,900 getting more comfortable to that on a daily basis and watching 444 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:53,500 what they do to make it evolve through the week is really 445 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,000 important. You know. 446 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,700 I think obviously you'd love to have I mean as a teacher it's 447 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:02,700 great to have a great putter. I mean it makes you makes you 448 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:05,300 look good. But the one thing about Augusta 449 00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:08,900 that doesn't seem Like people assume you have to be a great 450 00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:13,000 putter to win at Augusta. And man, I can go through and 451 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,100 list some kind of dodgy Putters that have wanted a guest. 452 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:21,200 I mean, Bubba, Watson Bernhard, Langer, Fred Couples. 453 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,900 You get some people who aren't known as great Putters that, 454 00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:27,300 that still managed to win, Augustine people assume because 455 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:30,300 the greens are super fast, you have to be a great Putter and I 456 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:33,000 think sometimes when they get super fast at the fact, you're 457 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,400 putting defensive takes away that skill to where you're not, 458 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,100 you're almost Trying to but you're not you're not making 459 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,700 Cuts. Also when they're that you 460 00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:44,500 really don't have to even make a stroke. 461 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:47,500 You just kind of have to nudge it and just kind of get it going 462 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:51,400 somewhere down near the hole. So everybody thinks you have to 463 00:23:51,408 --> 00:23:54,500 be a great putter. I mean I would certainly I'd 464 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:57,900 love to have been crunch up putting for me at Augusta but 465 00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:01,600 there have been some now when I say week they're great Putters 466 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,000 but by 2 or standards not their strength. 467 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:07,600 So would you think it's good to have a Mindset shift, 468 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,200 potentially, when potting is a good change and say, I'm going 469 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,600 to be a little bit more defensive this week in my 470 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,300 putting than I was last week. What do you think? 471 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:20,700 Well, I mean, you hate to put defensively but you really? 472 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:24,400 There's so many putts out there. You're simply trying to get it 473 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,500 close to the hole. I mean, Jeff talked about doing 474 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:29,100 speed drills. Matt, Matt, does the speed drill 475 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:33,600 where he tries to hit each putt a little bit longer than the 476 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,200 last. If he comes up short, he starts 477 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,400 over and then Has kind of a he's trying to say how many in a row 478 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,700 he can get and then he runs out of room. 479 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:46,200 Well normally and this drill, he'll set up say 20 feet with 480 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,700 his first but 40 feet would be his longest and he starts trying 481 00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:54,400 to go 21 feet, 22 feet. Well normally he can do that. 482 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,600 He could probably get 10 in a row. 483 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,900 It Augusta. I mean, it makes you feel like 484 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:03,200 an absolute beginner because you'll hit what feels like the 485 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,900 same pot. But haste with it that speed a A 486 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:11,100 slight more potterhead, speed, doesn't equate to 6 inches. 487 00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:15,000 Pass it equates to 3 feet pass, so we'll do that drill. 488 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,900 But I mean there's times when you do that drill and he almost 489 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,600 it's somewhat defeats him because he realizes how 490 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,400 challenging it really is. And so, I just think there's 491 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,400 very few putts at Augusta that you feel comfortable, putting 492 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,100 aggressive. And I think probably when Jamie 493 00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:36,400 was talking about Patrick being out with Phil, where you're 494 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,900 chipping, From is hugely important. 495 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000 I mean, if you're chipping from the right spots it's very easy 496 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,800 to get up and in. But you know, number one, you go 497 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,100 over number one, green and forget, it's just a cardinal 498 00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,500 sin. You cannot go over number one 499 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:52,800 green. So if they have a pin in the 500 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,900 back, their number one, it's going to be really boring. 501 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:57,800 Everybody's going to hit 30 feet, short, and trying to, but 502 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,500 no, nobody's going to make a birdie unless that whole long 503 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,800 putt, if they hit a close that hole, they're taking my opinion. 504 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,900 They're taking terrible strategy because you just there's so So 505 00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:11,000 many situations there where you're trying to, I hate to say 506 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,000 it but you're trying to avoid a certain a certain position on 507 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,100 the course. Yeah, I would say the further 508 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:20,100 elaborate, you know, Chris's point there on, you know, 509 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,700 nullifying, you know, the importance of being a great 510 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,600 putter there. When you look at the data, you 511 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,000 know, at Augusta, you know, the separation value from player to 512 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,500 player, doesn't come from cutting. 513 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,200 It doesn't come from on the greens, you know, for example, 514 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:40,200 Shadow Creek, Here, two weeks ago, kokrak wins and he gains 515 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,500 over 11 shots on the greens. You just not going to see that 516 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,000 happen at Augusta. So no one can really separate 517 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,300 themselves that way from the rest of the field. 518 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,100 It's definitely a ball Strikers. Golf course, you know, Augusta 519 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:55,300 is a second Shot, Golf Course and you know so going into that 520 00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:58,700 you know that you might have some leeway off the tee but 521 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,700 you've definitely got to be on, you know, on point and be very 522 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:04,900 precise with your iron play. Again, like Chris mentioned 523 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,300 there's, you know you've got to be very Very precise with your 524 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:11,100 second shot on that golf course, because there's certain sections 525 00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,000 on those greens to where if you hit the ball in the wrong 526 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,100 section, it's almost an auto 3 but sometimes you can't stop it. 527 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:21,100 So it's not necessarily A measure of how well you're 528 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,400 putting. It's a measure of. 529 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,700 Did I hit it on the right section of agreeing to not two 530 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:29,900 not three but here so definitely I would agree with him and say 531 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:34,200 that historically the great ball Strikers are the ones who are 532 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,100 putting themselves in position to win the I do say, I do think 533 00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:42,900 that you have to put what, you know, you have to put well to 534 00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:45,600 want to give yourself a chance to win any golf tournament on 535 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,800 tour but you don't have to you know, go crazy on the greens. 536 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400 There let's talk about short game prep there. 537 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,700 Any kind of shots that you feel like your particular important 538 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:56,900 to work on Chris, you mentioned controlling spin is something 539 00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:00,700 that Matt works on a lot of any other kind of shots that are 540 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,700 particular to Masters week that you like to get players 541 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,700 comfortable with and and working. 542 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,200 On being Jeff touched on it in moving short game, they're kind 543 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,300 of you know, back even to the 100 and 110 yard shot that 544 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,500 you're going to need for say, if you have to lay it up on hole 545 00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:19,400 number two, and you got left the location middle location down 546 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,400 right hole location, where you going to land the ball where 547 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,600 you're going to use this thin there. 548 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800 And another place is a masterpiece, you know, and 549 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,400 there's so many reasons for the fact that it is a masterpiece. 550 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,200 You know, we could argue between us whatever. 551 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000 We think it's a parting course, or a ball hitting horse, but it 552 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,500 really makes you deliver all the goods to play. 553 00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:38,500 Well, there, I love sitting. With the whole caddies, 554 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,200 especially back in the day and they're talking about, you know, 555 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,300 what we would call Big Picture topography, how everything gets 556 00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:48,100 to a point in rank pre-race Creek down by whole number 11, 557 00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:50,300 and it's not actually just the race Creek. 558 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,400 It's a little spot in the pump house or they think things break 559 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,900 too. And whether you believe in that 560 00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,900 and completely stuck on a point and you don't think that matters 561 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,100 or not, but the ball is definitely moving down towards 562 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,700 that way. And when you're hitting shop 563 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,000 stuff, see if the winds going there, you got to be thinking 564 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,500 about that. So, I like in the prep work 565 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:11,300 through the week and they do a great job with their driving 566 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:13,400 range, or when you're out playing your practice rounds. 567 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,900 Kind of figure out, where do I have to hit my ball in order to 568 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:20,300 let it matriculate or manifest down towards the hole, which is 569 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:23,700 almost different than any other venue that we go to, because you 570 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:27,200 can use some land in the slopes and the wind so nicely there to 571 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,500 your advantage. And also, to make you really 572 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:32,700 look really bad, if you miss one of those, slopes Chris, when you 573 00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:35,700 and matter go this week here on strategy. 574 00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:38,800 Are you guys pretty? Then Matt obviously has a great 575 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,700 track record there over the years of so many good finishes. 576 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:44,600 Are you guys pretty dialed in on strategy knowing what clubs are 577 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,200 going to be hit off? T's kind of aim points into 578 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,200 greens or you pretty conservative or more aggressive 579 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,600 talk, a little about strategy, maybe. 580 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:54,500 Yeah, I mean that would that wouldn't change a whole lot. 581 00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:59,000 That would only change if the course if it were cold or soft. 582 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,300 Matt's going to struggle to reach the par 5. 583 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400 If it's firm and warm, he's fine now. 584 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,000 He's going to be hitting more. Club in there than in other 585 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,100 guys. But you know when you saw Zach 586 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,700 Johnson went in there that it was really really cold. 587 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,200 I think it kind of took away that couldn't get to the par-5 588 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,300 so he had to rot rely on his short game. 589 00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:24,400 Other guys that could get their had to hit so much Club into 590 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,800 those holes that they weren't as offensive holes is normal. 591 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,100 So that year the score was pretty high winning score. 592 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,600 So that that would I mean Matt's wedge game. 593 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Is important, especially there if it's soft and it's playing 594 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,600 long. But if if it's firm, Matt 595 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,900 kuchar's not going to be hitting a lot of wedges around there 596 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:50,500 because the par fives, he'll be on the green or chipping and the 597 00:30:50,508 --> 00:30:54,600 par fours are too long for him to where he would get wedges. 598 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,000 So, let's games important for him. 599 00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:00,200 I would say the longer that Golf Course plays because it comes 600 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,200 into play on them, on a par 5. Now Bryson D Shambo wedge game 601 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,200 is going to be important no matter what because As you know, 602 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,300 he's going to have you start thinking about the club not just 603 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:14,200 Bryson, I mean you know. Rory, Dustin Johnson Brooks 604 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,600 koepka, you can go on and on Bryson is changed his game but a 605 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,300 lot of talk about how prices changed the game that style of 606 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:25,200 play has been going on for a long time. 607 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,500 Just let's just hit drivers far as we can't get a shorter Club 608 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:30,800 as we can get in. But you start thinking about the 609 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,000 clubs at that, he will be hitting in or those other guys 610 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,600 if they choose to hit driver. And I mean 11 11 is. 611 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,500 It's over 500 yards, couch, a lot of times is coming in there 612 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,700 with with the hybrid. And I mean he'll you know, those 613 00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:50,000 guys Bryson hit some kind of wedge and 11. 614 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,600 I mean, it just did there's not going to be any long holes out 615 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,600 there for for Bryson or Rory or DJ if if it's warm. 616 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,900 And infirm. Yeah. 617 00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:01,700 What about you? Jamie with Patrick and looking 618 00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:05,300 at strategy just a ton of drivers hit it as far as 619 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,700 possible. Look In at the attacking every 620 00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:09,400 pan or more conservative into greens. 621 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,600 Any thoughts or prep on one strategy? 622 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,700 I think you could get Chris and Jeff. 623 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:17,000 And I have to agree with Chris said, for sure why we might 624 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,400 disagree with something's, everybody's been hitting it far 625 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,900 for a long time and trying to get it for her for a long time. 626 00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:25,000 The interesting thing about a guest, if you look historically, 627 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,600 you know, it's kind of its favorite, a lot of players, you 628 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,700 know. Mike Weir, didn't vomit. 629 00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,100 Crenshaw didn't moment jacked and vomit. 630 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,800 You know, Max played unbelievably around. 631 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,100 They're not. So, I think it's putting it in 632 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,100 the right spot. Right. 633 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,600 Patrick's got a really good look at he was hello amateur you know 634 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,400 last year he or a year and a half ago Escapes Me we barely 635 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,200 made the cut and then got in the cut on the number and then he 636 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,500 tied the low score on the weekend or close to the low 637 00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:53,800 score on the weekend, and we had a really good chance to win 638 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,700 coming down the stretch. And I think he sees it the right 639 00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,900 way, and the one thing, if you're much, like the iron 640 00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:03,100 shots, if you're using the slopes, and using the land and 641 00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,600 losing using the win, right? The right way. 642 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,700 You're turning. 300-yard carry a lot of times into 330 and 340 643 00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:13,500 yard carry and then there's some holes where you just got to hit 644 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:17,100 it straight out there. Like for me seven changed almost 645 00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:19,900 as much as any whole lot there, when I first went out there, you 646 00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:22,500 know, I saw why stop the first time I was out there almost 647 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,600 driving in the greenside bunker and then you know, now you're 648 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000 back on that whole sometimes sitting on five, six, seven 649 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,500 eight iron into the hole and and it doesn't matter how far you 650 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,000 hit it if price is going to go ahead and take a swing at that 651 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,300 one. I'm going to hit it on the green 652 00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:36,500 and better. Be a really good one. 653 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:40,500 I can't imagine you being able to do that for holes in a row. 654 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,200 So we have our lines, you have a lines in our head picked out 655 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,000 really. Well, we have our wine Jarhead 656 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,600 picked out on how fast it goes and what the wind does and are 657 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,500 catty, does a really nice job at figuring out how the lines move 658 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:56,100 over based on the circumstances. So we're ready with the driver. 659 00:33:56,500 --> 00:34:00,300 I think I agree with what Jeff said, that Augusta being a 660 00:34:00,308 --> 00:34:01,700 second shot. Golf course. 661 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:05,700 I think guys that have won there have been have been great iron 662 00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:08,900 players and I think Tiger Woods is probably the greatest iron 663 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:12,500 player in the history of the game and so I think Augusta is 664 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,100 you play aggressive off the tee and then I think you turn 665 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:19,000 around, I think he played more conservative into the green. 666 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,699 And so that's where it's an, it's an interesting golf course 667 00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:25,000 but a great iron shot at Augusto. 668 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,800 A lot of times doesn't mean you're close to Holy Angie, hit 669 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,400 it to the right. Right. 670 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,400 Spot on the green. Yep. 671 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,500 I would, I would agree with that. 672 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:35,600 I mean, well, I think we're all kind of anticipating, you know, 673 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,800 to see what Rice and does with taking some of those lines. 674 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,900 And we've all like, I've already played the golf course in my 675 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:45,400 head, thinking about 200 ball speed and where I would hit it 676 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,800 on Sir hose and, you know, I'm curious, you know, we're all 677 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,500 excited to see to see those lines, but the end of the day 678 00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:54,600 you still have to make the pots. You still have to have play ball 679 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,600 position, you know, he's got to play really well to, you know, 680 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,700 to win their Jeff. We saw the other day that that 681 00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:04,600 you had a Victor, getting his Club head speed up there and 682 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,000 some some pretty pretty big. Changes. 683 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,000 Is that kind of off of that Bryson wave and have you guys 684 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,100 thought about talked with players at all about gaining 685 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,300 speed? Yeah. 686 00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:17,700 You know for Victor know it really had nothing to do with 687 00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:20,200 with Bryson, you know as I started to work with him and 688 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,300 evaluate him as an athlete, I saw someone who statistically 689 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:27,700 was leaving a lot on the table Victor's, an incredible ball 690 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:33,000 Striker, you know, always has been since since youth and was 691 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,800 doing a lot of things to really like, you know, Governor on his 692 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,700 on his, his speed, Victor, the great athlete, he's very fast 693 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:44,800 which he's strong and he has the capability of swinging. 694 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,800 Very, very fast and in fact he was doing things. 695 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,800 Like you know you got Bryson going 48 this kid was playing an 696 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,700 inch short driver. So there's a there were some 697 00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:59,400 things like that that were like no-brainers and in the beginning 698 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,600 it was like let's let's test it. Let's see, can we still be a 699 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,500 world-class driver of the ball being is accuracy. 700 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,600 He is, I mean hitting over, 65% of Fairways but just push it 701 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,000 down. The Fairway a little bit further 702 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,400 because I thought that it would definitely change his game as a 703 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,400 player, if because he's a great iron player and a great driver, 704 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,800 if I could give you a few more shorter irons wedges, come 705 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,000 things in his hand and I think it would give him an even a 706 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,700 bigger, a bigger Edge, you know, tee to green. 707 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:32,300 And so, you know, we weren't really trying to chase Bryce 708 00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:34,400 thing. Like Chris said, I mean, speed 709 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,000 has been a differentiator since Getting of golf. 710 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,800 And although I've always tried to get all of my players to hit 711 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,500 it far, I think you just see more of an emphasis now on guys 712 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:48,400 working on their body training. Making sure their equipment is 713 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,600 dialed in to just sort of Max. There's a lot of reason why 714 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,800 distances think coaches understand how to generate force 715 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,800 and speed now, like they never have before. 716 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,300 And so you got these great athletes in front of you that 717 00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:03,500 can do this stuff. There's just, there's a reason 718 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:08,400 why everybody's, I say a say it now. 180 ball speed is like the 719 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,100 new 165 ball speed. I mean I've got 15 kids under 18 720 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,900 years old with 180 ball speed. You know, some of them that 190 721 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:22,100 ball speed and Equipment doesn't have a lot to do with that. 722 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:25,900 It's that the type of athlete and how they're, you know, how 723 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:30,100 they're producing Force now. So yeah that's just that's my 724 00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:33,500 two cents on the on the Bryson thing Cordy it would be really 725 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,500 interesting to take the players for every generation. 726 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,200 Sharon, just look at their body types and look what they look 727 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,700 like compared to what they look like. 728 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:47,000 Now, we played a practice round on Tuesday at Sherwood with Jess 729 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,600 guy, Victor, and he's impressive athlete. 730 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,300 Like when you get close to him and realizing the kid is fit, as 731 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:55,900 can be, he's making a bunch of speed, the way he walks, you 732 00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:58,300 know, he looks like he can put them in, you know, I don't think 733 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:00,700 plenty of baseball but you look like, you could make them short 734 00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:03,500 stop if you wanted to. And if you look, if he had to 735 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,000 play college football, you can make them the free safety. 736 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,900 I mean, he He looks like an athlete and they all do and, you 737 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,200 know, a lot of the speed, like there's different ways to go 738 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,500 about getting speed, you know, think of what's going on in our 739 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:18,700 world with the physios and the trainers and the gym world and 740 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:21,000 what they're doing. I know what our guys are doing 741 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,800 and so I don't think that's going to change. 742 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,800 And makes makes me proud watching at that, we've become 743 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,800 more athletic than anybody, almost thought that we ever were 744 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,100 going to be Chris. What's your take on this? 745 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:37,100 Obviously, Matt being of a little bit older but Raishin 746 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,900 right then Victor and Patrick potentially in that 747 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:42,000 conversation. But what is your if you guys 748 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,200 talked about that at all speed at all and is that ever come up 749 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,200 in the last six months? Yeah I would love for Jeff said, 750 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,900 18 is the new 165? I'd love to see, Matt Kuchar at 751 00:38:52,900 --> 00:39:03,800 180. I can get 18, you know, to 752 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,400 church through up. Yeah, which is 4. 753 00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:11,600 Titoo now and so he was right. As tiger was kind of coming on 754 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,400 seeing because I can remember being at Augusta when tiger was 755 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,900 an amateur in all the stories about tiger hitting nine iron 756 00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:22,600 and 15 and this and that. And I mean, he was hitting, you 757 00:39:22,607 --> 00:39:27,100 know, it's a 43 and a half inch steel driver and it was just 758 00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,000 crazy to places, he was hitting it. 759 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,300 I think think that had a big influence on kids growing up and 760 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,000 seeing how far they could hit I think Launch monitors have had a 761 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,100 huge issue. I mean there's nothing like 762 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,600 swinging and getting feedback is to was that faster or not and it 763 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,900 just it motivates kids, it's a scoreboard but you know couch 764 00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,500 would be. We have worked on getting him 765 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:56,800 more more distance. We probably eight years ago we 766 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,600 started looking at it and everybody I think Matt hits it 767 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,700 further and he's ever hit it but everybody else has gotten 768 00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:07,100 longer. So we realize that for him to 769 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,700 have more chances to win and for him to extend his career, he 770 00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:12,800 needed more distance. We've you know, he's probably a 771 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:17,700 club head speed, probably a 110 guy, we've gotten him up to 115 772 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:20,700 before and it just doesn't feel it. 773 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:23,500 Feels out of control to him and I said it should feel out of 774 00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:27,100 control to you, but his game revolves so much around 775 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:32,200 precision and control that he has not felt comfortable today, 776 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,900 trying to put that into play, but it would soaking I can give 777 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:40,000 you like 50 or 60 million reasons why Precision spent 778 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,200 pretty important for him to know. 779 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,900 It's pretty interesting. It was the last week at 780 00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:49,500 Sherwood. They got five par fives there 781 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,900 and one of them everybody's kind of handcuffed because the 782 00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:58,100 Fairway runs out, I think it's 13 but the other ones you know, 783 00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:02,800 Madel hit a drive, say 280 and he's coming in there with with 784 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,700 the three. Would you know he's got 260 785 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,700 coming in there. R. 786 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,400 And at the end of the week, he said, I felt like I played 787 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200 pretty good golf. He said I did not play the par 788 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,900 5S very well. I said I felt like I put pretty 789 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:16,600 good golf and I finished 45th or whatever and I was talking to 790 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,500 him about the par-5 swear. I said, imagine if you had say, 791 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:23,400 say 20 are if you're coming in there and said, you know, 250 or 792 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,200 coming in there to 30 and so that on that particular course, 793 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,600 15 20 yards or shoot 40 yards, makes a huge difference. 794 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,600 So there are certain courses benefit certain players, but 795 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,400 like Jamie say, That means when you play a tournament, you most 796 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,200 likely it kind of got to do everything well and the beauty 797 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,600 of golf is that it's not just one skill. 798 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,300 There are so many skills involved and so maybe you as a 799 00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:53,800 shorter hitter maybe you're giving up after the tee shot 800 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,100 your to disadvantage but then, you know, I'll take Mac picture 801 00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:59,600 from that point. Forward all the way to the hole 802 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,600 over most players, but there are certain holes, certain courses, 803 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,300 where an average length header is given up. 804 00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:09,800 Yardage. Let's wrap with what you do week 805 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,800 of the best week of the year comes in November this year. 806 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,900 Who knew what are you doing? What are the keys for a good 807 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:18,900 warm-up? So a player feels that security 808 00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:20,600 going into the round that they've done everything. 809 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,000 They can to prepare themselves when they step on that First 810 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,800 Tee. Well, I think Jamie's got to 811 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,900 figure out, get your guy to win the monthly, the end of the 812 00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:31,800 tournament. So I need to figure that figure 813 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,500 that strategy. Yeah, I think obviously going 814 00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:38,000 into the weekend, good. Arm is that takes away a lot of 815 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,700 stress, trying to trying to find your game at a major. 816 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200 Any week trying to find your game is not not the ideal 817 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,200 scenario, but I think in the warm-up going through certain 818 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,800 certainty shots, you know, kind of painting a picture of okay 819 00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:57,500 can't miss left here. Can't miss right here, some tee 820 00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:59,800 shots, it would be uncomfortable for mad. 821 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,600 It would be, I'm going to I'm going to work on such a couple 822 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,600 drawers but I don't want to overdraw it 12 at Augusta is Is 823 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,900 always a, we don't work a lot in terms of shit on the Range. 824 00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:15,300 We would work on shots, tee shots, avoiding one side of the 825 00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:18,600 other, not so much approach shots, but 12 at Augusta is a 826 00:43:18,607 --> 00:43:22,500 different story. 12 in Augusta were always talking about that 827 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,900 whole, Matt likes to fade it and I think I think that's very 828 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:29,800 dangerous on that whole, I think you need to play that that whole 829 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,900 to the right over the bunker, front edge of that green, right 830 00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,400 over that bunker, hit it straight or try and hook it no 831 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,100 matter where the pin is. The way that great setup, long, 832 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:41,200 lapse, terrible, and short rights terrible and that's your 833 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,900 Miss pattern for a right-handed golfer. 834 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:47,300 So that hole is a people think they've got an eight or nine or 835 00:43:47,308 --> 00:43:50,900 and I think it's a birdie hole, it's not it's a it's a potential 836 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:54,000 disaster whole. So we'll work on that the where 837 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,700 we'll kind of paint a picture and no matter where the pin is 838 00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:00,000 try to get him. He's going to hit it here or 839 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,500 left. It's a lot of visualization like 840 00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:04,700 working through shots on the Range. 841 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:06,300 Just testing it out. Yeah. 842 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,800 Yes, we're going to keep running the movie that we were talking 843 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,900 about, you know, we've been painting the movie for this guy 844 00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:13,500 for a long, long time ago, this would have looks like you knows 845 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:18,200 what it feels like, you know, as Jeff and Chris can I test fit? 846 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,200 We're on the minute and our business meeting. 847 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,200 I'm sure when Aaron Wise is going to go warm up, Jeff knows 848 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,300 what time he's going to walk out onto the fighting green and the 849 00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,600 driving range, you know, and I know what fabric will do the 850 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,900 whole week, we will set up camp, you know, will stay in them in a 851 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:33,900 place that we know that's familiar. 852 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,400 It's one of the weeks when our whole team will stay together. 853 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,200 From, we're away from the golf course to try to make it loose. 854 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,100 And he seemed to have fun and not worry about golf, King much. 855 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:44,400 And then when we get there, we'll kind of go through our 856 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,300 whole system and be adaptable, you know, I think that stress 857 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,600 for everybody is not knowing the outcome of what's going to 858 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,500 happen and our job is to eliminate all the pictures of 859 00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:56,400 that stress. And if something does come up 860 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,200 stressful to go back into our bubble and make it really really 861 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,500 low key and kind of figure out how we want it to be. 862 00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:07,300 And then tap the end of the day, I remember sitting in the the in 863 00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:11,600 the locker room with a veteran player one time and we were kind 864 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,600 of getting ready and to go out and walk out and I said, man, 865 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,500 it's nice to be here and he says, when you're here, you feel 866 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:19,100 like you've done something right? 867 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:22,200 You know, this is a spot and that one kind of resonates 868 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,700 completely. We know we've done something 869 00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:26,900 right to be there and the object is to be there all the time. 870 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:29,300 So we're looking forward to having a great week at that 871 00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,400 iconic, special place. And nobody runs the golf 872 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,600 tournament like the master. So they do a pretty tremendous 873 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,400 with a bunch of So there, it's going to be really interesting 874 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,000 and intriguing to see what they do with this, the, the coaches 875 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,700 and our bubble there. And we're really looking forward 876 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,200 to it. It is a special week, they leave 877 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,800 no stone unturned there. I mean, the things that are, 878 00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:52,700 there's a thousand things, they think about their one of them 879 00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:55,800 that nobody talks about that I didn't know about. 880 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,100 Let's depends on the green or actually they're made out of 881 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,800 steel because if it happens to be a windy day, they don't want 882 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,800 the flags blah. Hopping all over the place and I 883 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,900 mean just little details like that. 884 00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:13,100 When you add up all those little details, you really know that 885 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,200 this is a special week in like plate. 886 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,600 JB's head. You've done done something. 887 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,900 Right? If you're there and I think 888 00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:24,900 everybody the energy that place is great because everybody is 889 00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:28,700 excited to be there. And everybody feels very, very 890 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:33,100 blessed to be there during that week that seems like the perfect 891 00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,300 place to wrap this conversation. Thank you guys so much. 892 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,700 For hanging out with us and sharing some insights, and 893 00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:42,900 getting ready for the Masters week. 894 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:46,700 We appreciate your time and I hope everybody enjoys this week. 895 00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:49,300 It's one of the best of the year, that's for sure. 896 00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:52,000 So thanks for hanging out. Thank you to CDW, for presenting 897 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,700 this conversation. Thanks for having us, Jeff, and 898 00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,000 Chris. Thanks for all the good things 899 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,200 you continue to do. Keep your record, appreciate 900 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,100 what you do as well. All right, guys. 901 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:00,900 Thank you all.