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You are listening to the gulf 
Science Lab podcast. 

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My name is Corey Walker, and I'm
on a mission to figure out how 

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to improve the way that we learn
and get better at golf. 

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I've been able to travel all 
over the world talking to the 

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leaders in the industry from 
instructors, to researchers, to 

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Golfers themselves learning how 
they're getting better at golf 

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and what that means for you. 
There are certain structures 

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routines and habits that are 
keys to developing high levels 

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of skill and performance at any 
task and maybe you have picked 

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some of these out during our 
series when we've been sitting 

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down with two or prose. 
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different environments and 
practice structures that have 

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helped or prose succeed. 
By the way, we have another 

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episode with Scott. 
Stallings coming out next week 

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and that how to be a tour pro 
series, don't miss that. 

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That. 
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at that in a more Global or 
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We're sitting down with two 
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system to learn about how their 
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their results and stories. 
They've seen coming through this

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golf Australia program. 
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players us suppose that have 
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very much through this process, 
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whether it be with Richie Smith,
it catches up, And through the 

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gulf Australia program in 
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men's side of the game, am 
injili, who, you know, she's up 

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to World, she's up to world 
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Rolex rankings now, and she is 
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who took all of this on board 
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And decided to apply it worked 
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of structures and and her 
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phenomenal. 
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dive into all the details. 
Al's of that structure and the 

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concepts that have gotten 
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We have two guests today with it
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different roles in the 
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Our first guest we have heard 
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This is Nick. 
Randall, my name's Nick. 

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Randall. 
I am a strength and conditioning

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coach. 
I'm the owner of golf fitpro and

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I've been lucky enough to be 
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physical side of golf from the 
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Working with anyone from your 
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as young as 10 and 11 through 20
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Smith. 
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entire duration, about seven or 
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Our second guest fills, the 
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As the golf instructor, not 
emerge Applause. 

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I'm originally from New Zealand,
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back in 2012. 
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here at KTB sport. 
Golf Academy whereby, we are 

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focused on developing athletes. 
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all the way out to our players. 
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130 players inside of our Junior
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world. 
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So, one of the high performance 
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level without Queensland State 
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System enter into their National
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understanding of how golf is 
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How did yunior go about getting 
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those tournaments, the state 
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national tournaments players 
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around about 40 athletes. 
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between the age groups of 14 14,
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the junior State team and I 
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then go into Squad trainings on 
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state coaches myself and three 
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announced and and then all of 
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store. 
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level golf here in Australia. 
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essentially to make that make 
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train and compete as a team, 
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it's by State or region or 
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atmosphere that environment has 
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Putting the players into teams 
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think is an underutilized skill 
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where by very rarely do we are 
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from their self talk, how they 
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decisions they go through. 
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go through when we set up skills
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uncomfortable as possible. 
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what makes the what puts them 
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some, it might be physical for 
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that currency for the player, 
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uncomfortable. 
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deal with with the situations. 
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that of tournament golf. 
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training in that environment, we
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out into the tournament, the 
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more, they can deal with those 
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I guess I wouldn't say he's but,
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being uncomfortable. 
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program, most of the states Now 
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golf system Cordy, which is, 
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and it has several tiers to it. 
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4, Tier 1 being the rookie 
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players. 
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of minzhi, Cameron Etc, who are 
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professionals. 
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4, Or which is the at the state 
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guess then progressively from 
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players, get all of the service 
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frequency it down to the tier 4,
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the national program. 
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government-funded And each state
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coach Physio and then they'll 
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criteria, but it's fairly 
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improve this, improve the 
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Each state, we don't have a huge
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know, these coaches are very 
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and have successful businesses, 
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of a pay cut to come and do 
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But it's Incredibly rewarding to
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focuses on athlete development. 
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different squads created. 
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of coaching in the work that is 
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Now, coaching is so diverse, 
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So, when the players with us and
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the Academy, that's a great 
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movement patterns and technical 
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But when it comes time to taking
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tourneys, essentially, where 
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controllable, Act is basically 
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prepare for the day, how they 
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emotional management of the ups 
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tournament golf and trying to 
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collectively together to produce
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it's more of the human skill 
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the the golf skill development 
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those Services when the play is 
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But so, yes, at the human skill,
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huge for us when an eternal week
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environment. 
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whether it be 40 athletes at a 
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reduced to ten twelve athletes 
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competitive sessions. 
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Against each other from a skills
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I think that's probably one of 
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and golf coaching is actually 
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player with us at one time, it's
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provide a bit of that 
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and, and build some resiliency 
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An important thing to note there
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that when you go away for 
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builds into the whole ethos of 
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Australia. 
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Australia. 
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in the Pro ranks in, really. 
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athletes and the gulf is in our 
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much more about development than
a when we go away we sometimes 

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get kicked back from some of the
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trying to promote that they do. 
What we consider is best 

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practice with regards to 
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nutrition, and that might 
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from what the athlete actually 
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current level of performance. 
And, and so, it's always a 

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really interesting. 
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consider it and then what the 
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performance. 
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real skill, I think. 
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try and work hard to make sure 
we get that balance, right? 

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And getting the players to 
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because it is a big part of 
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process back up being the 
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ownership. 
Above those of those elements 

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that Nick just pointed out. 
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what's necessary for their for 
their development and that that 

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self awareness and building 
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accountability on that on their 
behalf that, you know, don't 

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just throw technique under the 
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You know what other factors 
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it, whether it be hey, you 
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to take an all-of-the-above. 
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player base here in Australia. 
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millions of kids to draw upon. 
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the ones that do the best. 
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train like a golf Australia. 
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person. 
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What would your day look like? 
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skills in any capacity then 
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working in the in the gym with 
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tournaments they have coming up.
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to what events they have Vaughn.
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throwing balls catching moving 
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Here is this? 
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athletic skills, physical 
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not just a look at golf swing 
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your golf, swing on the driving 
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through all of our 
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a holistic approach towards 
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know, diving in here at some of 
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different, you know, things 
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What are the things that Nick 
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with their people on a regular 
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squad's, with every player, they
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every player and that's one of 
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They turn up with at the squad 
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Early they go, they've got a 
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fit with the T Pro warm-up. 
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about about the culture of our 
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their great posture work on 
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already very self, aware of what
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that, we use balance, lab 
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s3d and you know, A bunch of 
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time. 
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and and gravity fit would be two
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well as that and then obviously 
is the Players. 

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Develop the 3D analysis neck. 
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you had a couple things. 
I feel like I've asked you this 

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question before. 
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And my favorite equipment that I
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gym environment, which is, you 
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dumbbells, kettlebells 
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I like him to travel with the 
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Rumble, roller is my favorite, a
spiky ball. 

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There's a both for self massage 
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Being able to manage the quality
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I got both of those after our 
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about, hopefully getting some 
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obviously I think everybody 
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Huge fan of what they do we've 
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product coming out soon which is
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which is a wearable technology 
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Gravity fit stuff into into 
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we'll save that for another day.
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is, I use a, an accelerometer 
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train with push, which is 
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measuring how fast someone's 
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movements, which is, which has 
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Change the way I Change the way 
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has his own. 
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doing his training, he wears his
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tracks, his movement in the gym 
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readout of how fast he's moving.
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power output is for his gym 
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So I can, I can keep on his case
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right loads of the write speeds.
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office is the gravity fit stuff.
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office sitting in a chair or on 
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super good just being an 
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Like why does it feel so good? 
That's hopefully, doesn't sound 

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salesy or anything like that. 
I apologize in advance to people

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but like I am actually curious I
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And why is that helpful for for 
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After a couple hours of working?
Interesting question it. 

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I think it's difficult to know 
exactly why you're feeling 

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feeling good, but I think that 
we I see I hear similar 

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sentiments from other people and
I feel it for myself as well. 

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I think it's because it's our 
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especially that kind of Niche or
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curve in our upper spine in our 
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spine position, that's what were
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We're not designed to be hunched
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And then you can look at some of
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a forward and hunched posture 
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the vital organs. 
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stomach and our lungs and 
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breathe. 
The quotes of your breath, which

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has implications for the energy 
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health factors. 
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what we're supposed to do. 
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isn't and gravity fit, I think 
just helps to promote the former

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over the latter. 
Alright, let's jump over to some

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of the training that we're going
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Here's a very high level kind of
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Postural control stability and 
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absolutely non-negotiables. 
I think without those three 

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things, then you're at risk of 
injury in this kind of strange, 

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one-sided? 
Twisty-turny, crunchy sport that

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Okay, so we have that list. 

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Now, let's look at the important
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What are some of the issues? 
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And what can we do about it? 
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with a young golfers coming in, 
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lot is that their bodies 
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of adapting to their golf swing,
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normally not all that efficient,
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it. 
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hitting High loopy drawers and 
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right-handed golfer that tight 
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that lats are really tight, 
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You might see a slightly hitched
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Hip as well and they'll have all
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So the first thing is is getting
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that's relatively neutral and 
that takes them out of the 

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danger zone for injury. 
That's absolute number one. 

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Priority is a, can you stand up 
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the ball and then athletic way 
from there, I look at trying to 

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give them them as much exposure 
to different movements in the 

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gym as possible. 
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have a requirement to be done 
under with really good postural 

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control. 
So we'll do all sorts of 

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different variations of squats 
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Push movements, pull movements, 
bracing rotation and I'll try 

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and give them as much exposure 
as I can. 

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So it's different variations of 
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years. 
Then once they've got a really 

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good Mastery of those different 
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the foundation for For strength 
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We start to load them and so we 
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resistance bands, we start to 
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different ways that adds more 
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the good posture and movement 
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And then once they're mastering 
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two, three, even four years at 
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seen an athlete first at the age
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16 now, 15, 16, then we can look
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Kettlebells heavier load working
on explosive power and really 

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trying to develop their physical
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can increase clubhead speed but 
without compromising control and

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control of posture. 
But the theme that runs right 

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through that is is injury 
prevention. 

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So, you know, we need to keep 
them healthy, we're not trying 

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to develop a top-level golfer at
the expense of their physical 

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health, in the long term. 
We know that obviously it's So, 

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only a tiny percentage of 
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it and so we've got 
responsibility to build or help,

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develop a robust individual and 
a robust human, that will be 

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healthy and can enjoy the game 
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It's not, we're not trying to 
not trying to break these kids 

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in in the interest of making 
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I think I should use cameras is 
the, as the example partly. 

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Because I've been heavily 
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his journey and partly because 
he presents a really good 

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example of a kid who first 
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and he was like he was like a 
coat hanger with skin draped 

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over the top of it. 
Like it was and it was a twisted

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coat hanger as well. 
You know, that he exhibited all 

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those issues that I told you 
about that tight right side that

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forward and low right shoulder 
really chronically tight. 

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Left up a trap and neck. 
He basically had very little, in

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the way of athletic development,
or some very stable had big 

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range of motion issues because 
of that lack of stability, and 

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yeah, and he was in pain and 
discomfort a lot of the time. 

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So we had to, we had to do a 
fair bit of work, just to get 

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him back to a somewhat neutral 
position with regards to his 

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posture. 
A lot of it was kind of pasta 

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reach. 
Painting them. 

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We use the use the gravity fit 
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start which was fantastic. 
Just basically gave him the Deep

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Muscle stimulus and the postural
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basically be able to realize 
what was in neutral posture and 

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how we can achieve it and what 
it felt like. 

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And then we use that that 
gravity fit stuff throughout our

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gym sessions and incorporated 
into his practice as well. 

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So that was from the ages of I 
would say 15 through 2017. 

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Teen and cams development was 
relatively slow, because he was 

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pretty lazy. 
Whenever the kid, like it was, 

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it was hard to get him to do 
stuff. 

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I had to spend a lot of 
one-on-one time. 

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We were lucky enough to be able 
to access some, some extra 

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funding for to, for me to be 
able to do that, and he needed a

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lot of motivation and kind of 
someone standing over him at the

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start. 
He's better. 

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So it was a lot of postural, 
Correction and Mobility range of

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motion, basic stability and 
control. 

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And then, from there, we 
progressed in through, into 

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into, loading them up with, with
more traditional strength and 

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conditioning movements. 
But that was all balanced on a 

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schedule. 
That was pretty intense. 

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Like, he was one of the best 
amateur players in the world and

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he was traveling all the time 
and we saw this, we saw this 

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pattern where he would be at 
home, he'd get regular attention

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is physical his key. 
Physical attributes would would 

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improve then he travel slack off
a little bit sitting on planes, 

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playing a lot of golf and you'd 
see this regression. 

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And then you come home and get 
better and then go away and 

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regress. 
And so, that was our next 

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challenge was okay, how we 
actually going to teach cam what

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he needs to be doing when he's 
on the road and get him to the 

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point where he realizes how 
important it is. 

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And so again, I was lucky enough
to access and funding where I 

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could go out and spend time with
them and try and enforce those 

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those things. 
And like I mentioned before 

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there was a bit of kick back, 
there was a few arguments of 

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not, I want to do this, I'll 
feel sore tomorrow or I won't be

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able to play my best. 
Best and was all about trying to

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educate him. 
That this was the right thing 

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for him in the long term in 
order to avoid prevention of 

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injury primarily and he 
gradually came around to that. 

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And by the time he turned Pro, 
when he was 19 and then into his

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early years of a professional, 
he was actually doing a pretty 

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good job with his maintenance. 
And we saw instead of 

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progression regression 
progression regression. 

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We saw progression physical 
attributes when he was at home 

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and then a maintenance of those 
attributes when he was away, and

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then another progression. 
We gradually saw him improve and

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get stronger, more powerful. 
And you saw that with this club 

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head speed as well. 
When he first came out on Tori, 

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was 45th in driving distance and
now is around 70th, I believe, 

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and still heading north. 
So it's been a long slow Journey

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with Cameron and it's been 
difficult at times for both him 

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and for people working with him.
But he's gradually. 

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Come to the realization physical
preparations is Just so 

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critical. 
One of the biggest things that 

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you think about in June 
development is helping Juniors, 

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make good progress and growth. 
But what Creeps in along the way

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is often regression. 
They get really good at a young 

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age or at a particular age and 
then as they get older, they 

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just seem to, you know, other 
kids go right past them. 

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Or they never have that same 
kind of skill that they had. 

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And one of the reasons is that 
these physical things and Nick 

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was talking about our never 
address with, or never dealt 

513
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with that. 
So, their body just can't cope 

514
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with the Ends that they're being
was being placed on it and 

515
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Richard here is going to talk 
about why he sees this marriage 

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of a fitness and training with 
golf instruction is so crucial 

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to help mitigate some of these 
issues over the Juniors 

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developing and growing off the 
back of what Nick was just 

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mentioning. 
As opposed to, you know, we see 

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it. 
We've seen, I've seen this a lot

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over the, I guess the last 10 
years, where by you see, these 

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players come to you with age of 
15, 16, with the these physical 

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issues. 
Is that need to be I guess 

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addressed with the likes of 
Nick. 

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That's where we've taken that 
that Forefront and and putting 

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the education and place with not
only the junior golfers, but 

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also the parents right from that
five years old or where they 

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interact with that introduced 
into the game. 

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So if we can create that ethos 
of we're trying to develop the 

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kids physically from that, I 
guess that good quality 

531
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structural point of view in 
terms of, Postural awareness, 

532
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some strength and some stability
and mobility in the right areas,

533
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right? 
From that young age, we're 

534
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getting a buy into whereby. 
When the kids are, then 1516. 

535
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We're not, we're having less of 
these issues that have come up 

536
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over the last five or ten years.
So, working alongside Nick, or 

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one of our other isn't see coach
has the ability to, for the 

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parents to now, see the benefit 
of that, there's massive. 

539
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And from a coaching point of 
view, it allows Allows us to get

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right into really high-quality 
work with the with the player 

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and bang on. 
As Nick said as opposed to 

542
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seeing progression regression. 
A lot of the time we're seeing 

543
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that just to re-emphasize, we 
see the progression and getting 

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them into even if they're just 
on their own, just maintaining 

545
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what we've done. 
As long as they're not taking a 

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step backwards physically, we're
always going to be able to push 

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forward a whole lot quicker. 
So that's where I see the 

548
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relationship with Nick and 
decency coaches is A is to 

549
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accelerate that plays 
development by not regressing 

550
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physically when we're not with 
them. 

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So using using tools, along 
lines of gravity fit is a great 

552
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,200
way, we put their one of those 
kits into every Juniors bag 

553
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,800
simply because when we're not 
with them, as a coach or a 

554
00:31:31,808 --> 00:31:36,100
trainer, they have some 
self-awareness and some I guess 

555
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:40,700
himself coaching tools that they
can maintain their physical work

556
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:44,000
with while we're not with them. 
I'm so that works on possibly 

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well. 
So much, good info here. 

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00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:52,900
So many good unique, takeaways 
that we can go out and apply, 

559
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whether you're a golfer or 
coach, or whoever you are, you 

560
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know, into your training into 
your performance. 

561
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,300
Thank you to Richard. 
Thank you to Nick for coming on 

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and sharing all this great 
information with all of us. 

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