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We're on a mission to help 
golfers from all over the world,

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achieve their goals by 
understanding what it actually 

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takes to play their best golf. 
We're talking with leading 

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instructors, researchers, and 
players themselves to find what 

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is actually working. 
Hey everyone, welcome back to 

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the podcast. 
Today we are starting three days

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in a row of podcasts. 
Yes, this is that this is the 

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week for your mental game. 
We're going to dive in the first

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two days are going to answer 
some questions. 

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The third day, we're going to 
chat with a with a player and 

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our special guest dr. 
Craig Carton Greg. 

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How's it Go Courtney? 
It's going well looking forward 

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to it. 
Absolutely, Greg, you're one of 

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my favorite people to chat, all 
things, mental game with. 

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And I think one of the reasons 
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just simple, not a bad. 
So do you like simple 

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understandable, approach? 
Sure, that's no matter who you 

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You can understand kind of the 

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method. 
I don't know if you like that 

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word, but the method and the way
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I think I find that a lot of my 
work is helping to simplify some

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Concepts that may seem confusing
or difficult to pull off. 

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Yeah. 
And kind of, I guess maybe it is

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set a little bit of context that
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performance. 
Who is the lens of mindfulness 

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approach? 
Yeah correct. 

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Yeah a little bit less sort of 
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or observation type model or 
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You'll see that here pretty 
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If you haven't heard Gregg on 
the podcast in the past, let's 

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dive in. 
We've got a handful of questions

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today. 
We're tackling questions about 

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kind of golf swing. 
We're going to focus on that 

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tomorrow. 
We're going to focus a little 

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bit on playing golf. 
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more for the competitive golfer,
a little bit, kind of things you

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can, you can look at then. 
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questions about the golf swing, 
and our mental game, in our 

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approach toward it. 
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kind of one that we all have and
if it's a thought about it, you 

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do I block out a negative 
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Once my swing starts to struggle
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which always seems to happen, I 
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Like, we all get going pretty 
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in then all of a sudden my we 
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whatever it might be. 
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I think, you know, this is sort 
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consent us down. and a very 
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that we can block out negative 
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negative thoughts or even bad to
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positive thoughts and positive 
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when it comes to Performance is 
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thoughts, like, if you stay, if 
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and you the only thought you 
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middle, you're going to be 
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opposed to the thought, so we 
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positive thought when we start 
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things we've done in the past or
bad things that have happened or

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what might happen that could be 
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Well now we've placed some of 
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thinking those thoughts, trying 
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So you can see the difference 
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I believe that regardless of the
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bad, we can still engage with 
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Swing without being hindered by 
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If we're aware, we're having a 
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It's just a thought, it's not 
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Now, the other interesting thing
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in the middle of the round? 
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know, from this idea of we're 
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Shots. 
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shot and a lot of us struggle 
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to spiral. 
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water hazard and every out of 
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right? 
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expectation. 
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while, maybe that does happen. 
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So golfers will identify with 
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their handicap into. 
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And if things aren't up to that,
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up, we think something's wrong 
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golfers face is that one, the 
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then to trying to fix things 
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broken. 
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those who accept bad shots, you 
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understand that they are part of
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Are much easier to move on to 
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fix and fight ourselves in the 
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anything about the prior bad 
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It's story to relate to those 
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got out and played around a 
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first rounds back here in 
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there's a water hazard, all down
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left side of the Fairway, and 
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That First Tee, It had to range 
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up, that's my recommendation. 
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range balls. 
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absolutely thought like crap. 
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some might perceive that is you 
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not very strong, whatever might 
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I have that thought of like man,
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start my round by hitting a, my 
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But I actually at the best 
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down the middle, that's a great 
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Don't hit golf shots. 
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off quick there, but I got 
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That was a perfect example, 
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The idea that we've just been 
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way are good players. 
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We have that thought there's a 
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it or Judgment of ourselves. 
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Don't think this way I just did.
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I need to do something 
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I have to block this out. 
I have to change at all while 

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trying to hit a golf shot, 
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So the idea is that all we're 
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from ourselves. 
Not not swinging the club, well 

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or hick. 
Good shots or any of that. 

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From a mental perspective. 
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environment where we're free so 
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that we've worked so hard to 
develop and freedom can be taken

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away from us. 
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resisting ourselves, right? 
There's no Freedom that there's,

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it were filled with tension. 
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those thoughts, it's not. 
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Because thoughts don't hit 
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It's like maybe answer those 
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listeners, they would guess that
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top 100 top 50 in the world. 
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could miss this for footer or 
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there's a water hazard right 
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Is that true or not? 
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I mean, everyone sort of has 
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them at different times, but I 
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engaged we are with what we're 
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That's what that is. 
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moment so that our thoughts no 
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But we do everyone. 
If you're a human being is going

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to have those thoughts, in fact,
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as humans, we all sort of have 
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We're always sort of on the 
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to survive. 
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that's sort of built into our 

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DNA. 
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those thoughts. 
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Just when people are playing 
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thoughts. 
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not playing well. 
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signals of fear and the need to 
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Not the thought itself though, I

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think maybe they're kind of 
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This is that thoughts don't hit 
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aligned, you said in there and 
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positive thought, Thought that 
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impact, maybe just to close. 
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If that's not the thing that has
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Because again, we're trying to 
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with total freedom. 
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judging ourselves or thinking, 
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different than we are. 
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that A lot of us can relate to. 
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Everyone says trust your swing, 
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it? 
Hey, I mean, a lot of us were 

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starting our season here. 
Probably not much trust in many 

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golf swings is we're getting 
back into it, but what are some 

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of your thoughts around 
trusting? 

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Yeah, I mean in an ideal 
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trusted our swing but let me run
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confidence, right? 
Trust our Parents are selling. 

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So what that comes from is sort 
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Like we've hit a lot of good 
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The next one will probably be 
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confident. 
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good, all these being 
recollection of things that have

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already happened, right? 
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could work really hard to get 
confident and that competence 

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could go away. 
Literally, if the shot were 

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trying to pull off is three to 
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trying to. 
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That confidence is Stripped 
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All that hard work, right? 
And it takes a lot to gain that 

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back. 
I'm more of the school that we 

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don't need to be confident or we
don't need to trust to hit good 

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shots, because again, trust and 
confidence are products of 

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thoughts of things that have 
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covered in that last question 
that our thoughts, don't hit 

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golf shots, good or bad. 
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So next time when you're out 
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your swing, remind yourself. 
What's that coming from? 

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It's coming from thinking. 
We still possess the ability to 

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hit a decent shot, that doesn't 
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It may seem like that and that's
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navigate through, especially 
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competition or were, you know, 
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It's just, it's much harder to 
see that to step away from that.

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thoughts, all of things that 
have already happened and then a

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slight peek into the future and 
guessing based on what's already

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happened. 
What might happen. 

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And again, more thinking about 
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being totally engaged in what 
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It's kind of reminds me of that 
this idea of accessing your 

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skill, like, you know, trusting 
your swing a lot of, you know, a

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lot of us most golfers, have the
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something. 
It's accessing that which is so 

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tension I think about like 
playing a two ball Scramble with

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Gonna play really, you know, 
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a break par, if you're playing 
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yourself because you have the 
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That is very difficult on the 
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happen under pressure etcetera. 
Yes, so that's it that mental 

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skill access and that comes from
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freedom. 
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to emerge. 
Do you like that idea of playing

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a scramble like that? 
To kind of prove it to yourself 

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that like all I do have the 
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Using that as like your one 
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think what happens sometimes to 
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I always thought, you know, if I
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Well, what if I can't play well 
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really be bad, right? 
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that to be, even more 
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perspective, because I think 
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with a one foot putt or 
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Right? 
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those. 
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mentally to perform. 
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know, playing a scramble by 
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perfect. 
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be just because the setting is 
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be workout. 
There's no guarantee. 

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the swing and the mental game. 
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This is that fall on here we got
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I've always played with one 
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to ride it for 18. 
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And the shape only am I limiting
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level by thinking of a swing key
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mechanical Swanky. 
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Be, you know, how are things 
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I think we really we can get 
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aspire to think the way the way 
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top level players may talk about
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Who knows what's actually really
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and one or two or three, swing, 
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Having those are using those I 
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those. 
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Those are the things they say 
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we are playing well, it seems 
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like somebody else, we're 
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are, what works for us. 
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you, you are able to create 
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environment to access your skill
by doing what you're doing right

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now, then keep doing that. 
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it works for them, doesn't mean 
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So I always offer that up to 
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you know, different ideas. 
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out to the golf course, with 
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on every shot. 
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Iran develop as well. 

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It reminds me as question. 
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A, when he's doing his eyes 
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behind the ball, he talked about
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Is very prominent, he's playing 
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think tiger talk to his talked 
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visualization behind the ball. 
What not to your anecdotes like 

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that, right? 
But then you also your anecdotes

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from. 
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All right. 
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And so I think if you were doing
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everybody that won on the PGA 
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Swing thought was on on Sunday. 
I think you'd hear different 

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things every time. 
Almost I agree in to take one 

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step further in this happens. 
A lot as we've always been told 

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that we have to think a certain 
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You have to think positively 
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play while you have to have one 
swing better, all these things 

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yet. 
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anybody when they played their 
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about the majority of them, if 
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say, I don't know, right? 
That sensation of Thinking, so 

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why why is it that were so gung 
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specific way to think? 
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achieve, is this idea of no 
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that sensation, it doesn't 
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But the sensation is that there 
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So why ramp it up more by adding
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absolutely? 
Hey, that leads us really well 

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into tomorrow's podcast. 
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with a question, just along 
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So we'll cut this episode here. 
These were three questions. 

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Kind of tackle in the mental 
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I hope this helped we'd love to 
hear from you on on Twitter 

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Instagram if it did and then 
also Greg you are diving into 

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our 2020 session where you're 
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few weeks. 
Take we're going to take people 

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through a course and then you're
going to get on get on calls 

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with us on a weekly basis and 
really help set the foundation 

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for a for a good mental game for
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Yeah, I'm super excited about 
it. 

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I really enjoyed filming that 
content and hoping that a lot of

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people get to access that and 
enjoy some of the things that 

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you and I talked about Often and
hopefully it can apply them to 

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your game as well. 
Awesome. 

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Yeah, we've taken probably about
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past couple years and would love
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This course and kind of 
understanding Greg's approach as

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well it works. 
I've seen him work with tour 

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players and whatnot on is just a
really effective strategy toward

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better performance with your 
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I will be back tomorrow. 
Make sure to join us for that. 

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Greg will see you then. 
Thanks Courtney. 

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Thank you guys.