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So I could have to whisper now 
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I'm recording the intro of the 
modesty video. 

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The were about to do what she 
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seven year anniversary in a 
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says the word because I'm going 
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So let's see how many times she 
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Because so, while I'm is getting
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of how I proposed to my wife and
I will warn you this. 

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The whole thing was a total 
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My mom and dad had always told 
me that my That used all of his 

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monks salary to pay for my mom's
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that's rather romantic to know 
what I'm going to do the exact 

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same thing. 
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decided I'm going to propose to 
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Now, the only problem with 
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birthday is, you then don't have
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or even a card. 
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that I was in. 
So, I rang up Emma on a birthday

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and I said, come on, let's go to
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Let's go River, snorkeling. 
River snorkeling. 

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What's that? 
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The mountain and what you need 
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absolutely boiling hot and we're
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said to Emma, Once we'd reach 
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an hour of walking and my, just 
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need to make sure that the water
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I mean, if it's too cold, you're
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that long. 
So, let me have a swim first and

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then you can join me after. 
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is incredibly selfish. 
A it's my birthday, be, he's not

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got me a present and see he's 
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We'll have to wait on this rock 
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Now this was all part of my 
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A couple of weeks earlier. 
I bought an oyster clam from the

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local fish market. 
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figure out how you open the 
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Once I eventually opened it out,
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and I put em is engagement ring 
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wrapped up in string. 
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I put it in my shorts pocket. 
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bottom of the river beds and 
then invite Mr. Into the water 

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and say Emma. 
Look at the buried treasure 

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here. 
So that's exactly what I did. 

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Emma Emma! 
Look! 

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Look, look this there's buried 
treasure here. 

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No, Joe, you said that you 
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water. 
No, I'm okay. 

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Thank you. 
Mmm, look, no, no, Joe. 

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I'm actually really annoyed at, 
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water. 
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plunge pool. 
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water Emma turned her back and 
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contact. 
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look what's in my hands? 
No, no, Joe Emma, look, what's 

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in my hand look? 
No, no, Joe look, Emma Davis. 

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For once in your life, will you 
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I say. 
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there, I was on one knee. 
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was the ring, and on the other 
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Emma Davis, will you marry me 
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Why do I tell you? 
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I tell it you for one reason, 
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in this life, which is precious 
anything in this life, which is 

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valuable is covered up, just 
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that clown. 
So you have to mind the miles on

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miles below the ground to find 
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Ins, which are covered by layers
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person who owns a bar of gold 
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open. 
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protected by a safe and even 
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expensive because it's precious 
to you, you cover it with a case

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and so, my dear friends, never 
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precious than all of these 
things put together and see you 

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likewise need to cover it and 
protect it for the Lord, your 

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God before we get started. 
It does one thing we need to 

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ground all of our discussion and
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picture of the Gospel. 
You and I and naked were covered

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in sin and dirtiness and 
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Jesus Christ. 
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Sinners, his blood covers Us and
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only that Christ, Jesus gives us
His Garment of righteousness and

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covers all of our sins. 
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his sins anymore. 
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her sins anymore. 
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He sees the righteousness of the
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And let me tell you something 
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is a one size that fits all so 
tomorrow, when you choose your 

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outfit, ask yourself this 
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represent the gospel? 
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likewise also, that women should
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apparel with modesty and 
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Not with braided hair, and gold,
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good works. 
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you from the man's perspective. 
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also for us because we don't 
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crazed creatures and you can 
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talking about. 
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sometimes you can see it and you
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thinking, I hope she doesn't 
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You're thinking. 
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I'm lost in after, but is there 
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when you're in the church as 
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think it's more just going back 
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you may feel from like you said,
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person. 
Mary Ann who's been a Christian 

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in the church for 60 years. 
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paranoid that are is what I'm 
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eyes and we can almost get hung 
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view our stand on modesty. 
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God think about it now something
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emphasize at this point is this 
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It's for men as well. 
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body is a temple? 
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you have from God's, you are not
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You were bought with a price. 
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This verse is a named either a 
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Our body does not belong to us 
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of interesting from the YouTube 
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Is this the amount of women that
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struggle with loss and it's like
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real misconception and it isn't 
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to it where women just don't 
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but that is not true at all as a
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I have struggled with lost. 
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hot day dressed with no t-shirt 
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Yeah have to look away. 
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because I am a sinful human 
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your eyes can wonder the same as
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And something I want to say at 
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thinking, well, it's easy for 
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about as ripped as a McDonald's,
french fry and the Business is 

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harder work. 
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It's not a fair game because it 
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more than others. 
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got an eight pack and you really
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careful how tight your clothes 
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woman to stumble, likewise your 
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Some men though we're really 
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got to be careful and maybe you 
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side to that, I don't want to. 
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Yeah. 
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you've been blessed with a very 
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sadly, we live in a very overly 
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the clothes, available are very 
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design design, the design, 
absolutely sex cells, and the 

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clothes the fashion industry, 
it's designed to will like 

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walk-in sex objects. 
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wants from us. 
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or a man who has accentuated 
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because you have to say, That 
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t-shirts, pants. 
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Now, something that people often
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to stop lusting and we can apply
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You just need to control your 
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You think that's a helpful 
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modesty? 
Absolutely not. 

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No, I'm going back to the 
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1, Timothy 2. 
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women in the church and it says 
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apparel. 
So therefore you can see isn't 

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just solely down to the A man or
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We also have a responsibility 
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Christians if we are professing 
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and savior. 
We have the Holy Spirit dwelling

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within us. 
We should want to naturally help

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and care for our Brothers and 
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We know how much it cost Christ 
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for our sin and lust is a sin 
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dressing really modestly is 
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sister to stumble, we don't want
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So I think it's a two-way, is 
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But the bottom line is, this a 
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as possible for man, is burning 
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And he's not repenting. 
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sin in his, in his flesh, if you
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So it does ultimately come down 
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might be the man who is doing 
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weakness and he's trying to 
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He goes into the world, he goes 
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and all these women are dressing
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church and there's also women 
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trying to help one another. 
We don't want to cause want to 

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stumble. 
We're trying to look out for one

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another. 
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For also, we've been bought with
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Precious Blood of the Lord Jesus
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And we're thinking yeah, I want 
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I want to honor him. 
So tell us Joe, what cloves 

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tells them and what clothes 
should I wear, then, is it Full 

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to be prescriptive. 
Should we give you a dress code 

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of how everyone should dress? 
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Okay, so here's the list, you 
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I'm joking. 
Okay, now, I think we were 

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talking about this before we 
started filming and what we feel

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convicted about clothes are 
modest can be completely 

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different for somebody else's 
conviction, But ultimately where

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the spirit of the Lord is there 
is freedom, but also you will be

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seeking the Lord, and you will 
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And so, you've got this Freedom,
it's not this heavy. 

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Burden this heavy yoke on your 
shoulders, which is weighing you

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down and Every morning, when you
wake up, you're dreading, you 

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know, what do I work? 
But yeah, when it comes back to 

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sorry being prescriptive. 
You know, you should wear this 

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and you shouldn't wear that. 
Yeah. 

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Should you wear an ankle should 
you wear a dress down to your 

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ankle? 
Should you wear a turtleneck if 

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you start with the gospel? 
And you start with remembering 

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that Jesus has bought me of a 
price, that's all you need to 

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remember and it will be your own
conscience to give it to the 

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Lord and the spirit of God which
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As Believers, he'll witness to 
you, what you should wear and 

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you'll get a sense of it. 
And should I be wearing? 

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This is this right? 
Something that Up to me because 

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before I became a Christian, I 
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Fashion, retail chain. 
And I used to think it was 

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amazing because we got free 
close. 

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The idea was we were walking 
mannequins, you know, people 

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customers would come in. 
They'd see us in these clothes 

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and then therefore the customers
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they could look like we looked 
thinking back to the turn then, 

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you know, and loved the 
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Then I loved it, I'd have men 
asking me for my mobile number 

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all because of these clone if 
you're American South Phone. 

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Yes. 
I think my cell phone number at 

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all because of the clothes I was
wearing but you know that did me

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a lot of damage because I was 
then, hold in my whole identity 

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in the clothes I was wearing and
that's the thing. 

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I really think we should have my
home. 

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Is your identity is in Christ, 
it's not in the clothes you 

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work. 
So in the makeup you put on your

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face it's in Christ and him 
alone and the more that we are 

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bombarded with fashion and 
beauty and all these things. 

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But you just ill for treating 
and saturating our minds the 

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more Consult to shape us and 
shape our decisions, which is 

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why we have to be 
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And we have to be in the word 
praying and seeking the Lord, 

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and He will direct our paths as 
something that helps me from 

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coming out of that. 
Environment is I started to 

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think when I would get dressed 
in the morning is if Jesus was 

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here right now in bodily person,
what I feel a little bit awkward

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but I be a little bit ashamed 
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appropriate because addressing 
to get attention from the 

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opposite sex. 
And that's it's your motive if 

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you got. 
Yes, A wrong motive. 

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If your motive is I want to make
all the boys swooner I want to 

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make the girls check me out. 
That's that's a terrible motive 

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you know because you're making 
it all about you making all the 

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folks about you. 
But John the Baptist said he 

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must increase and I must 
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to magnify the Lord. 
Jesus Christ not to bring the 

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focus on ourselves. 
Why do people get into the shop?

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You know when we did the modesty
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Yeah. 
I decided that every time you 

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sort of certain words, I buy you
a rose because it's our 

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seven-year anniversary. 
The word was. 

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It begins to be be beautiful. 
Wasn't beautiful time. 

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You said the word because I'm 
gonna buy you a role. 

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See said it nine times, we're 
going by you nine roses daddy 

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doing okay. 
Hey. 

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Three. 
Now I ended up buying you too 

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many roses because they were so 
cheap and I thought it was 

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wrong. 
Not to get you as many is very 

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happy. 
Even if you did, just get me 

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wrong. 
Yes. 

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Yes, of course, you would 
garlic. 

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Are you not gonna give them to 
me? 

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I'm gonna give them to me. 
Yes. 

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Sorry.