This is David Attenborough and this is me.
They say never meet your heroes. Well, before I tell you whether
this is true or not, first let's investigate the four times when
David Attenborough was challenged on whether God exists
or not. You, I think you've described
yourself as an agnostic. Your agnosticism, I think is a
Is this what you say is a scientific agnosticism you feel
as a scientist, You should never say, you know, yeah, I I mean, I
I can't help thinking of when I have, for example, taken off the
the top of a termite hill and I've seen termites in there all
busying about building walls, looking after the queen, caring
for the pupae, clearing the nest, all busy about it.
Then they're all blind and they have the faintest idea that I am
there watching what they're doing because they don't have
those sense organisms which would allow them to know that.
But I do sometimes feel that maybe I'm lacking in some sense
of and I don't know whether there's anybody else involved in
all this sort of thing. And it's a it's a very confident
thing to say that you're absolutely sure that that
there's nothing in this world that I don't have the sense
organs to appreciate. And Richard, I don't, I don't
doubt would say, well that's rather feeble.
That's not being very brave. And he maybe he's got a case.
I don't know whether to be happy or sad with Davidde answer.
You see, on one side here is this man who has literally been
knighted, this man who has all of this fame, and yet he's got
the humility to be willing to accept that actually, yes, we
might not know everything and there could actually be one
superior mind who created everything.
But then on the flip side, however, I'm saddened to think
if he really does effectively admit that I actually could be
blind, why is there no urgency to try and discover the truth?
Why is he still contented to live in his agnosticism?
Because without being disrespectful, David is at the
end of his life, and very soon that tiny little termite will
see something much bigger than him.
He will see God. The Bible says, let them alone.
They are blind leaders of the blind.
And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a
ditch. So if David Attenborough is kind
of admitting to the fact that he is spiritually blind, here is a
man who's inspired millions of people, quite literally over
generations, and yet he will lead these many people into a
ditch. Oh, how wonderful it would be if
David Attenborough would open his blind eyes and see the
things of God, and then from seeing that then lead many
others to Christ in his latter days.
Because the beautiful message of the Bible is this.
Though we are tiny insignificant termites, The God of the
universe who built all of the world, who flung stars into
space, this great big God laid down his life on a cross for
little termites like you and me. And if we trust in him, we can
echo the words of John Newton. An Amazing Grace.
I once was lost, but now I'm found was blind, but now I see.
OK, we're about to watch a mini debate between David
Attenborough and an Australian creationist.
Listen carefully and I'll tell you why I've brought this clip
to your attention. How can you get evolution when
every new species starts out as soon as it's formed?
I don't know that we have enough evidence to say that because I
don't think we've can experiment over a sufficient period of time
to demonstrate processes which take 10s of millions of years.
My concern, as I've said, is is is not to argue about the
mechanisms by which these changes took place, which I'm
sure our knowledge is incomplete, but to look at the
proposition that one form is descended from another, but
there is a biological unity of life for which, it seems to me,
the evidence is altogether overwhelming.
There's no way of stopping you two.
I'm going to stop you anyway. If you are a Christian and you
are not ashamed to let people know that you are a follower of
the Lord Jesus Christ, the chances are at some point you
will enter into a debate with unbelievers who the Lord has
purposely placed in your life, whether that be your family,
your friends, your neighbors, or work colleagues.
At some point people will challenge you on why you believe
in God. And when this happens, you have
two choices. You can either get really,
really angry. You can sort of, if you like,
slam dunk them and make them look stupid and give all the
best arguments. Or you can listen gently and
have a friendly discussion and just gently challenge their
points at why actually is very rational to believe in God.
You see, I want to be the latter.
But at points, yes, I hold my hand up.
I've fallen into the first because of pride.
I want to prove prove people wrong, but personally I just
love the way that these two discussed evolution
respectfully. Because no one likes to be
shouted at, no one likes to be made to look like a fool, and
yet they both listen to each other.
So next time you have a debate, remember to be gentle and I'll
use an old fashioned word. Remember to be winsome, because
come on now, how awful would it be if you won the argument but
lost the soul? David Attenborough in this
interview again seems to be open to the possibility of
intelligent design. I personally see no conflict
between the idea that there might there could be an
omnipotent creator spirit that created this world and chose to
do it by allowing things to evolve in the way that they
have. There is the evidence, and if
you believe that that God wanted to go that way, that's fine, and
if you don't, that's fine. But the evidence that it went
that way is a refute. If you wanted a title for this
concept, it's called Theistic Evolution.
Now personally, I believe the Lord created the world in six
days. I think he could have done it in
six seconds if he wanted to, but I think he laid it out in that
order to give us a a structure for our own week.
However, that being said, I do have friends.
I do look up to preachers and professors who hold this view,
so I don't believe it's a salvation issue.
But I also do believe there's a whole heap of evidence which
proves that it's not dumb. It's not silly to believe in
Young Earth Creationism, that God created the world and
actually the Earth is about 6000 years old.
So if you would like to see that video that I'm going to make
where I give you all of this evidence, please do subscribe.
But just for now, let me ask you this.
Would you trust a monkey to hold your baby?
Would you trust Would you allow an ape to drive your car?
Or would you allow a monkey to run your business?
Of course you wouldn't. So if you believe that our mind
is nothing but a highly evolved monkey's mind, would you trust a
monkey's mind to tell you anything?
No. So then how can you trust your
monkey's mind to say that we did evolve?
Does that make sense? I believe God created us as
human beings, made in the image of God, and we did not evolve
over millions of years. Now he made us as we are.
But that's my opinion and if you want to know more about that,
make sure you check out the video in a few weeks time.
I can assure you of one thing, God has blessed David
Attenborough with a long life for a reason.
And here's what David had to say about his own longevity when he
was pressed by the interviewer. Now, David, you've documented
the life cycles of of many species.
What about your own? You're at a very interesting
stage of your life and it doesn't seem like you're slowing
down. You're still doing so much for
someone in their 90s. How do you do it?
Luck. You got to have luck.
I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm unbelievably lucky.
I mean I've got dear friends who are my age or or younger who
can't walk about, you know, and it's not their fault and they
can't remember things. Well I can't remember things but
but but seriously you can't remember things and and and why
it happened to them and have something to me I don't know and
it's not because I have eat anything peculiar or anything.
I mean I I have just no idea. It's.
Luck. I massively disagree with David
Attimer on this one. The only reason any of us can
walk, laugh, sing or even breathe is only by the grace of
God. Look, has nothing to do with it.
And although David is rejecting Jesus as Lord, I do believe God
is keeping him alive for a reason.
I believe God is keeping David Attenborough alive to show the
world his beautiful creation. I mean, think about it.
There have been hundreds of wildlife presenters over the
many years, and yet none of them can get anywhere near the
viewership that David Attenborough gets.
Even at the grand old age of 97 years.
Old, young, handsome men, they can't beat what David
Attenborough's doing. So the Lord's keeping him alive
to keep showing the world just what a wonderful creator he
really is. But I hear what you say, you
say. But Joe David doesn't even
believe in God. Why would the Lord use him?
Well, actually, all the way through the Bible we see the
Lord using unbelievers for his purposes.
Pharaoh the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he might
display his glory and deliverance through him.
King Cyrus was not a Christian believer, and God used him in
his sovereign plans to accomplish something for him.
The Bible says thus says Cyrus, King of Persia, all all the
kingdoms of the earth. The Lord God of Heaven has given
me and he has commanded me to build him a house at Jerusalem
which is in Judea. God even uses wicked men to do
his bidding. He used those hateful men to
achieve his will by putting his son on a cross.
Again the scripture say him. That means Jesus being delivered
by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God.
You have taken by lawless hands, have crucified and put to death
whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death,
because it was not possible that he should be held by it.
Did you catch that? In other words, the nails, the
crown of thorns, the shame, the cross, the mockery, all of that,
as hard as it is for us to comprehend, all of that was the
will of God. Somehow God was orchestrating
our salvation through these hateful men so that you and I
might have forgiveness of sins and eternal life.
But this next part is going to blow your mind.
Because consider this Jesus Christ, who is God in a skin who
knows all things Jesus Christ. Before these men were even born,
he could foresee into the future at what they would do to him.
And yet he willingly, obediently went to the cross because his
father asked asked him to do it. And Jesus did that so that you
and I could be saved. These things are mysteries.
But there's one thing which doesn't take a Sherlock to
figure out, and it's this. Joe Kirby is a Sinner, and so
are you. And we need the Son of God, the
Lord Jesus Christ, to take our sins, to take them on the cross
and to pay the price for them, that you and I can have a fresh
start and new beginning in Him. So whether you are one of the
most loved people on earth, whether you've been knighted
like Sir David Attenborough or if you're more like, if I can
say this, those animals which David has filmed.
If you've lived a life that is, is shameful, very unbecoming.
If that's you, My dear friends, know this.
All of us alike need Jesus Christ to cleanse us, to scrub
away our sins and to give us a hope beyond the grave.
And Jesus, as willing as he was to go to the cross, he's even
more willing to save you today. If only you'd come to him.
Some people wonder, why would God even save me?
Why would God even love me? But it's all you have to do is
look at the cross and you'll see that God wants you saved more
than you yourself want to be saved.
So rest assured in that. So back to our original picture.
How did I meet David Attenborough and was he as nice
as I thought he would be? Well, spoiler alerts, yes, he
was a lovely man, but it worked like this.
You might not believe this, but actually my biggest goal is I
wanted to be a wildlife presenter when I was growing up
and then later I wanted to be an actor.
But really when I was young I was just so in love with the
wildlife world. I just loved animals and I sort
of thought, well if I can meet David Attenborough I can ask him
as a 15 year old boy, how do I get your job?
So when I heard that he was doing a book signing, I bought a
copy of his book Life in Cold Blood and I joined a 5 hour
queue in a shopping mall near me.
When my moment came, I knew that my time was brief.
So I thought I'll just ask him this one question.
Do I need to study zoology at university and biology or should
I go and study you know, presenting a wildlife presenting
if I want to be a wildlife presenter like you.
And David said rather friendly, but also a a little sternly
well, you do need to have something to say before you
stand in front of the camera get the knowledge 1st.
And he was right, you do need a knowledge.
You need a knowledge of wildlife, of animals and fauna.
So I went away and I studied at college biology.
But very sadly I failed because I just didn't have the brain
capacity to study this. I didn't have the knowledge to
learn all of these facts and all of this information.
But there's one thing I did find the knowledge of, and that's the
knowledge of the Lord Jesus, Jesus Christ.
And something really wonderful about Jesus is this often, yes,
the David Attenborough of the world that the smart brains, the
big brains, the nobles, the kings.
There's not many of those who end up worshipping the Lord, and
yet he reveals it to babes to simple souls like me and you.
If I can call you a simple soul, I don't mind admitting to being
a simple soul. But you know what I'm trying to
say. Let me read you a verse which
expresses this. The Bible says, for you see your
calling brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not
many mighty, not many noble are called.
But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to
shame the wise. And God has chosen the weak
things of the world to put to shame the things which are
mighty. And I would love it if David
Attenborough, Sir David Attenborough would join that
tiny list of those wise men, those who are mighty, those who
are noble, if he joined that list and be saved.
Because there are many like me who are foolish things, who
trust in Christ, but there are still professors who love him
too. And I hope that David
Attenborough, as wise as he is in the world's wisdom, will find
Christ also one day. I wonder, now, are some of you
starting to piece the puzzles together?
Does it now make sense why I make videos about sea monsters,
about biblical creatures? Because I have a fascination
about them. Well, Speaking of life in cold
blood, I actually made a video about the craziest, the biggest
snakes that have ever lived. If you want to see that more off
the curb type of video, please do click here.
And also, if you've noticed, this isn't actually my home.
We're actually away right now because we're spending some time
with my family who live down in Wales.
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