1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,640 Welcome to this Watch LIVE. Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,840 And I'm Boo Booy and this is episode 214. 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,160 We're going to talk about Tutor today. 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Yeah. So my first question is what are 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,800 were were you born to dare? Are you born to? 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,280 Are you daring? Yes. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,000 OK. Can I just say yes? 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Yeah, I'm wearing a tutor right now. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,480 Wait, so you were born? Born to dare and born to dare 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,080 like cause like born as daring. You, like you were born like a 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,560 baby to dare, but then you also later in life are born, are 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,480 still born. To dare, yeah. 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,880 Born to dare forever, yeah. I think that's how it. 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Works. OK, today we're going to talk 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:01:00,600 about the fact that this year, 2026 is 100 years of Tutor. 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,239 It is Tutor's 100th anniversary after their founding by Hans 17 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:10,400 Wilsdorf back in the year 1926. Oh wait, Also, did you know that 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,680 it's actually that a tutor watch is Born to Dare? 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,560 So maybe you aren't either way. Maybe everything's born to dare. 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Yeah. That's pretty. 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Yeah. Probably not. 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,880 If everything's born to dare, then I feel like nothing's born 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,400 to dare. OK, but I mean. 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,600 So let's keep it tutor related in order to be born to dare. 25 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:31,040 Devote but I like that they say we're devoted to the classic but 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,800 reject the status quo, which is from their website, which I. 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,840 Totally. Believe. 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:41,040 I like I The thing about any marketing is you can always take 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,720 it in a cynical way. But then if you really look at 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,360 what that the brand is trying to say, there's like people who 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,160 wrote that stuff, there's people behind all that, and they 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,320 obviously have something they want to communicate. 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,000 People like me. People like you. 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Exactly. And if you look at what the 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,640 message is, usually it's what are they trying to achieve. 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,480 And with Tudor, when I look at their marketing, what I think is 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,480 they are trying to be a bit different. 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,600 They are trying to push some boundaries, but there's still a 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,120 company they still have to be commercially successful. 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,080 However, they're also boundary push in their own way, and I 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,720 think we can talk. About and this Tees it up 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,320 perfectly because on this like little born to dare manifesto 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,800 page on their website, which I really like tutors website. 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,600 They do a great job. You have like history and 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,520 images. I would last night I was just 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,680 looking at watches that I wanted to buy from the history from. 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Like reading about tutor. No, it was like the tutor 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,720 advisor, their alarm watch, like they had a one in the 70s and 49 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,040 yeah, just cool, cool stuff. But anyway, I it was so I didn't 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,720 get much done on this stuff. No, I'm just kidding. 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,120 But they do. I mean, they have one of the 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,920 history pages because they have many. 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,240 It's like all these different tutor submariners, yeah, 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,200 different eras that they went through and what they existed 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,080 for. And it's really. 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Cool. Yeah, and they also do just like 57 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,800 dates and times. So like, OK, this era in tutor 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,720 watchmaking, but this is just like the manifesto. 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,520 And I think it really speaks to exactly what you said about them 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,760 wanting to be different. The tutor of today has not 61 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,080 drifted away from the original version. 62 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,320 While strictly adhering to the fundamentals of excellence. 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,840 The design of a Tutor Watch reinterprets a rich history to 64 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,880 create something truly unique, a bold fusion of the original and 65 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,960 the contemporary in an unrivalled proposition. 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,840 Yeah, I think they. Did I think that's cool? 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,360 Yeah. Heritage and bolds mashed 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,600 together if. If it's not clear, So what? 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Are they going to do for 100? We're huge tutors. 70 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,000 We both love. Tutor. 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,000 We love tutor and I will say tutor is overall fairly new to 72 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,480 us. But then I thought about it and 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,000 I'm like oh wow, time flies because we we were like, oh, 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,320 when do we get our first tutors? And although I was interested in 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:02,840 tutors since 2013 is when I first saw like a Tudor Black Bay 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,280 and I was like that is cool. I didn't buy one which was my 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,400 original Black Bay 58 until 2020. 78 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,680 Yeah, but that's not even that long ago. 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,760 That's. What still 6? 80 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Years, but that's what kind of blew my mind because I also got 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,360 my tutor in January 2020 and actually you I it was either 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,240 you, I think it was probably you talking about the tutor and then 83 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,360 I bought my mini sub because I was just thinking about. 84 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,640 Tutor. I bought a BB58. 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,200 You bought a mini sub? The mini sub myself because I 86 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,360 remember you being like whoa, I wasn't even into watching all 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,040 the. Time I was really impressed, but 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,000 here what was interesting is like you hear the talking points 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,120 around Tutor from the enthusiast community and it's all about how 90 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,560 like Tutor is still a brand that makes tool watches that Tutor is 91 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,760 still like these and watch is built for purpose. 92 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,400 And when we think about why we both happened to buy tutors in 93 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,400 January of 2020, it's because we were going on a three-week trip 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,240 to Vietnam and Tokyo and we wanted to each wear one watch 95 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,040 and we wanted to feel comfortable with the watch in 96 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,400 terms of like it made sense the price point of the watch and us 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,720 going into unknown areas, but also feel very confident with 98 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,480 the watch that it could handle whatever adventure we were 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,040 doing. So like when you bought your Neo 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,320 vintage mini sub, like we took it immediately to get the seals 101 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,400 checked and make sure that it was ready for an adventure, 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,360 which was going to include a lot of beaches. 103 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Yes. But I will say for me it was 104 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,320 because my, my only, you know, I only had the 2 watches, the 105 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Cartier and the Rolex. And my Rolex it was five years. 106 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,560 So I got it serviced. Ohh yeah it was in for service. 107 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,560 Yeah, ohh, young me getting serviced at on the day of five. 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,320 I think you've changed your mind about that. 109 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,640 I have. These are robust, beautiful 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,480 mechanisms that will go to service if they need it. 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,680 When you have a large collection, I mean, you know, 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,480 I'm sure there are people who are still like they track their 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,920 dates and they go and and do preemptive service. 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,400 But I think a lot of collectors kind of buy into that. 115 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,600 Like the Watch is going to tell you what it needs. 116 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Yeah, exactly. It'll let you know. 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,760 And for me, I'm so loosey goosey with the time it might be 118 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,000 telling me for a while. You won't even. 119 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Know hey you I'm 5 minutes slow a day and I'm like, oh, I'm just 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:29,160 really all the time. OK, but what was your your most 121 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,200 recent tutor was what? Yeah. 122 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,480 Was my Peligos FXD chrono cycling? 123 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,640 OK, it was the. Cycling Italia, OK, limited 124 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,200 edition. 'Cause you also got the the blue 125 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,880 one for very. Last year, yeah. 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,360 So last spring mm Hmm. I bought the black based ceramic 127 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,400 with. Blue one, OK. 128 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,200 And then in the summer I bought the Guerre de Italia. 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:58,000 Yeah, and my most recent was 2023, which is my tutor BB 54, 130 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,240 Yes, which I stand by as one of the best watches in the entire 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,440 world. Wow, that's what I'm going to 132 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,480 say about that watch. My one of my favorite watches. 133 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,880 With that even though. I love when I see it on people. 134 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,000 I think it's so beautiful. Yeah, it's just perfect. 135 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,920 But OK, you have more tutors than I do. 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,400 What's your favorite tutor? Because this part I don't know. 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,800 It changes. Constantly pick one. 138 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,480 Do it. Do it. 139 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,600 Do it, do it. But then I'd have to pick the 140 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,600 the the Garrett Italia, the cycling edition Peligos FXD, 141 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,560 because it's it's the newest one. 142 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,360 It's also the most different from any other watch I own. 143 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Yeah, because it's got the carbon case and you know, like 144 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,480 it's, it's very if it's FXD, so it has fixed lugs. 145 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,320 It's also got this carbon case. It's gigantic. 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,840 It's all black. Like it's got pink details. 147 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Like, there's a lot about this watch that stands out in my 148 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,480 collection, and yet. And yet, like, technically, my 149 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 favorite is probably still just my original. 150 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Yes, exactly. That's what I was going to say. 151 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Is it MN 21? And then if you say that, then 152 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:11,080 our tutor watches that were for our 10th anniversary are our 153 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,640 favorite tutors. Oh yeah, 'cause I got you. 154 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 Yeah, yeah, that's true. Let's just say. 155 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,080 That's your favorite? Well, you know, if you had 156 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,120 primed me and and we cheated, then yeah, I would have just 157 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,200 said that right away. That's the thing. 158 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,440 I think that Watch will always be my favorite tutor because 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:35,000 it's so important to me, But also I think that FXD represents 160 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,000 in my mind how I saw Tutor, like a shift in how I saw Tutor, 161 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,080 where previously I kind of only saw Tutor as the Black Bay line. 162 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,200 And even though they had the Peligos, right, I only saw them 163 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,000 as the Black Bay line. It's like that's what they're 164 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,760 known for, that's what they care about. 165 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,240 And when the FXD came out, it just like switched the way I 166 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,360 thought about Tudor and I was like, OK, no, Black Bay is super 167 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,040 important. Black Bay is, is part of the 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,560 reason that it may be the main reason that Tudor is doing as 169 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:14,200 well as it's doing right now. And but it it doesn't stop them 170 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:19,960 from doing these other things and like a fixed lug dive watch 171 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:26,280 like in Titanium, like in 2021. Yeah, that was a little 172 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,000 unexpected from a brand that's as established as Tutor. 173 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Is, well, I mean the the Lagoon Watch. 174 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Well, yeah. It was very. 175 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,360 Unexpected making. The BB54 in a version that looks 176 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,760 nothing like the BB 54. That was historical. 177 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,160 I just loved that OK, they could have look, everyone wants more 178 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,640 colors of the BB 54. It's so wearable. 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,200 It's so even I will be tempted depending on the colors. 180 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,040 I'll be like, yeah, but I also want that one. 181 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,360 But what they did instead is they were like, we're OK, cuz 182 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,360 people yeah, people were debating like will they the 183 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,400 BB54IS based on a historical model? 184 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,160 Will it just be like, that's the one And they were like, hold on, 185 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,320 let's let's make it as wild as possible. 186 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Still pulling from the archives, but like take the same model and 187 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,160 have it juxtaposed as the like. Honestly, you can hardly tell 188 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,200 they're the same watch. But and that is super cool. 189 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,760 That is, that is born to dare. It is. 190 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,960 It's really like within the bounds of using the same case 191 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,080 and the, you know, like it is the same watch. 192 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Technically, you look at those 2 watches and they, to someone who 193 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,160 doesn't know you, you probably wouldn't even think they're from 194 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,400 the same brand, let alone the same model of watch. 195 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,560 And I think that, yeah. And I think that's, I think 196 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:56,200 that's super cool because what was expected is give me the BB54 197 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:01,320 in a blue in a maybe blue for sure color. 198 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,080 But please no silver cuz we we know what happened there. 199 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,240 Actual silver tarnished silver colored. 200 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,880 Tarnished not yeah, but like, OK, we changed the dial and 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,560 bezel. They have a nice color 202 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:21,720 combination and yet instead plus mirror bezel and, you know, dial 203 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,480 with a bunch of texture on it, bright, bright, bright blue. 204 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,720 That is cool. That's unexpected. 205 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,280 And that's why I'm I'm very excited for this year. 206 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,160 It is, but I'm always excited for tutor. 207 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,720 It is the newest in their Daring collection. 208 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:44,440 I forgot about this actual. Like there is a web page on 209 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Tutor's website that is like if you just search Tutor Daring 210 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,520 watches, it comes up and it's a whole page about their five 211 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,520 because there's currently 5 models that they've done that 212 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,720 are part of this, you know, Born to Dare, the Daring Collection. 213 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,280 And I own two of them, which does I think says something and 214 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,200 I would own 3. I actually like it though 215 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,640 because it is like OK I can be born to dare but I'm wearing a 216 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,240 BB54. It is. 217 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,720 You could be born to dare, but you're not. 218 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,120 No, no, no, I still AM under what it means. 219 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,480 Oh, you parented? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 220 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,880 But then there's like they're like OK are. 221 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,960 You are. You are you more wild and then 222 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,760 OK, so tell us your your daring watches. 223 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,560 I know it's the pink chronograph. 224 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:31,760 The pink. Yep. 225 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Black Bay Chronograph Pink. Pinky is my name. 226 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,480 For it, I believe that was the first one, yeah, Was the, you 227 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:44,640 know, the pink chronograph, and there's also the blue version of 228 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,040 the same chronograph. Which is the Flamingo Blue? 229 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,600 Flamingo Blue and although on the website right now they're 230 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,040 calling it Turquoise, but I I thought they did call it 231 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Flamingo blue but it may have been a community. 232 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Maybe flamingos were mad. No, they did call it Flamingo 233 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,800 Blue at first, but maybe the flamingos, yeah. 234 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,160 We're upset the birds go. We don't talk about birds on 235 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,040 this podcast, OK. And then there's the black based 236 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,480 ceramic with blue dial, which I have. 237 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,720 OK, right. And then the one that I feel 238 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,160 like I really want the watch, but it's got cars on it and 239 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,120 that's the only. Reason. 240 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,400 The carbon, the bright white one, that one's nice. 241 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,080 That one's nice. So. 242 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,400 It's got a carbon fiber case. It has these really cool carbon 243 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,800 fiber end links, and then the dial is white but with blue 244 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,480 along the edges and it just has such a look. 245 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:35,320 I love that watch. But then on the back it's got 246 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,080 little cars. That watch, I was impressed 247 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,440 because it actually looks like the photos in real life, for 248 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:48,760 which for which I mean it almost looks like there's a light in 249 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,040 it, like like daytime. Luminous. 250 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Yeah, Daytime. OK, what's the fifth one? 251 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:57,440 The BB 54 with. Oh yeah, blue. 252 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Yes, the one you've been talking about. 253 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,920 And the one that you said, it was part of the daring color, 254 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,640 yes. So I did not pass that. 255 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,960 Are you following? No, I. 256 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,600 OK. So because this is the 100 years 257 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,440 of tutor, there's been a lot of speculation around what could 258 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,960 this be. So what I wanted to do was very 259 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,280 quickly touch on what some other brands have done for 100 years, 260 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,920 OK? Because it kind of gives you an 261 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:28,600 idea of even like how brands think of 100 and it's not, I 262 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,480 don't know, I feel like it's not as big of a deal as I would want 263 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,880 to make it for a lot of brands. So, OK, 2024 was Seiko's 100. 264 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Well, one of their one hundreds. This is a common theme. 265 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,000 Across not just watch brands. It's like 100 since what? 266 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,920 So 20/24 was 100 years since the first watch with Seiko on the 267 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,000 dial. OK. 268 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,840 Right. So it's the first time they've 269 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,160 they used the Seiko brand on a watch and it's the Prasaj 270 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Kintaro Hitore limited edition. It's the model number is SJE 271 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,600 095. Really cool, very faithful 272 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,400 recreation of that watch. The hands are ridiculous. 273 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,360 I love them. It's such a cool watch, but they 274 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,240 did it as this thousand piece, you know, limited edition, which 275 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,280 I'm like, come on, commit to the 100. 276 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Why you doing 1000? No, they did 100 pieces. 277 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,640 No, they did 1000. Oh, they did 1000. 1000 on that 278 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,760 one, yeah. And they, you know, they sold 279 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,600 out. It's. 280 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,440 It's very it. All makes sense. 281 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,080 I love it. I think it's a great watch. 282 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,080 It's quite small. I don't remember the exact size 283 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,520 of it, but beautiful watch. But that was their main thing 284 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,800 they did. They did some other things 285 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,800 throughout the year. Then Citizen also had their 20 286 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,080 or 100 year anniversary in 2024. But then it was that like 100 287 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,640 year anniversary of the the brand and they did the 100th 288 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,920 anniversary of the first Citizen watch special limited edition. 289 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,320 They're not the best at naming. I mean. 290 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,280 This was 100 piece. OK. 291 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,680 That one was 100. And like, kind of unexpected. 292 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,640 It's a pocket watch. That's cool. 293 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,400 And it's not a recreation. It's like it was a new item, 294 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,760 $9000 U.S. dollars, but they made a whole new movement for 295 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,720 it. It's really beautiful in house 296 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:30,000 movement and it the movement is a size where they almost 297 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,720 certainly will be putting this into a watch or, or many 298 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,360 watches. So it's cool that they developed 299 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,840 this manual wine movement for it. 300 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,960 So like they really committed to making something new that also 301 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,800 sets the stage for additional new things because this whole 302 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,800 pocket watch was only 43.5mm. So like. 303 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,240 That means you could move. Use that movement easily in like 304 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,040 a 42mm, maybe even a 40mm because if you look at the open 305 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,560 case back, there is quite a lot of room in the case. 306 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,040 So then I was looking around because a lot of watch brands 307 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,440 that we like are way more than 100 years old. 308 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,839 So like when they had their hundred. 309 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:11,240 Year old reason why when you celebrate 100, yeah, it makes 310 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,440 you seem a lot younger. It's true in watches, 100 isn't 311 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,839 necessarily. And everybody's like, 312 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:21,839 congratulations, you're a teenager, so I mean you. 313 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:27,960 Know yeah, like so in 2019 Breitling did 100 year but the 314 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,680 because Breitling is considerably older than 100 315 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,000 years they did 100 years of Bentley. 316 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,920 OK, who's been a long term partner of theirs, but that's 317 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,520 not a surprise at all. So they did a Breitling 318 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:44,400 premiere, that was the Bentley Centenary and that was another 319 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,960 limited edition. And then if you go back, 320 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:56,800 Hamilton turned 100 in 1992 and they did an all gold reissue of 321 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,400 the Hamilton Spur, which was like an old design of theirs. 322 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Super cool. So that was their hundred year 323 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,480 watch. I have so much to say, OK, 324 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Tudor's not going to do this because as we read on the 325 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,280 website, they are taking the heritage designs and making them 326 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:20,560 bold. So when they they do reissues 327 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,920 already, the BB 54 is a reissue like a reinterpretation. 328 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Reinterpretation. Yeah. 329 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,480 But then you're not going to put like 100 years on the back. 330 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,480 So this is what I mean. They will keep doing reissues, 331 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,040 reinterpretations, because that is the core to what they do. 332 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,320 But I don't think they'll label it as that when I. 333 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,600 Don't think they'll do a straight replica of an 334 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,840 historical model and call it the hundred year. 335 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:48,680 No, I don't think so. I looked back and they haven't 336 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,600 done anything for anniversaries, but if they did, I just want, I 337 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:59,120 just want to say I would love to have and this is my only thing 338 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:06,880 if the BB 54 had the tutor rose logo, I would be so happy if I 339 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,520 could have the wrote the original logo version Yeah yeah 340 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,600 I. Love the tutor Rose I I I would 341 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,120 love the. Tutor rose not the most. 342 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:16,360 Not any Black Baywatch. And I also will not the Pelegos 343 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:18,480 hold on. I just would like to say as a 344 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,200 brand person, I, I will debate that that is not a good move, 345 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,800 but. I don't know if it's not a good. 346 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,360 Move. No, but I just mean as a person 347 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:28,520 who wants it. I would love something with the 348 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,920 Tudor Rose. But I think that's in the Black 349 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Bay line. The Tudor Rose totally fits. 350 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,520 Even though they have put it on the crown for some watches so 351 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,800 OK. Is it on this watch? 352 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,840 It is. So then it is still. 353 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,120 Is a rose. It's not that that style. 354 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:48,240 Yeah, but it's it's using the the Rose. 355 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Yeah, the Rose part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 356 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,560 They took away the thorns. I only have a couple more. 357 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Here. OK, OK. 358 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,680 So when Gucci turned 100, that was in 2021. 359 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Obviously not a watch brand, but for their hundred years. 360 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,160 They released a bunch of watches. 361 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,840 Interesting and it was their first in house movements. 362 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Like they went all in on watches in 2021 for their hundred year 363 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,680 anniversary. They also, just recently, this 364 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,800 has nothing to do with anniversaries, but whatever, 365 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,280 we're a watch podcast. They recently did a re release 366 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,360 or like a new version of the Gucci watches that have all the 367 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,840 different bezels and colours that you can put on. 368 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,680 Oh, that's cool because the the vintage scene and like a lot of 369 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,360 people were talking about them and that's cool. 370 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,440 They they understood that this watch had become something in 371 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,080 the community and for different people and people were hunting 372 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,880 for it as vintage and then they remade it. 373 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:41,720 Yeah. Love that. 374 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,960 So the Gucci 25-H came out in 2021 and it it was a whole line. 375 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,800 They had like a tour behind on. They had a platinum one and then 376 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,480 they had a regular steel one, which was somewhere around the 377 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,640 $8000. Like not, not a super 378 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,040 approachable watch, but I guess that makes sense for Gucci and 379 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,800 their positioning in the market. And then, OK, so now I was like, 380 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,360 OK, what did Rolex do? And here's a weird thing about 381 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:09,080 Rolex. Maybe it's not about Rolex. 382 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:14,200 Yeah, here's one of the weird things around the information 383 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,200 that exists around Rolex. So I think 2020. 4. 384 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,480 Well, in 2024, we were trying to figure out was that the 385 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:29,520 anniversary for GMT Master 2 or maybe GMT Master, because there 386 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,080 was so much conflicting information about was it 1954 or 387 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,320 1955 and all of this different stuff. 388 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Well, so I thought, OK, Rolex is 100 year wasn't that long ago, 389 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,680 it's 2005. But just looking that up, 390 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,920 there's conflicting information about what happened. 391 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:51,640 And I'm like, that's 20. The Internet existed in 2005 and 392 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,960 was thriving in 2005. It was only one year before. 393 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,120 You you need to change the dates so they sound. 394 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,240 Bad anyway. No, but I'm not even saying 395 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,800 Rolex is doing. This like a has been celebrating 396 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,840 100 years for. For 100 years so. 397 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,640 It's not for. For 11/11/11 years ago I bought 398 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,120 a book that it was a like a book that was 99 years of life. 399 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,960 Which is very specific and that is a. 400 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:26,720 Date and then in 2014 I think they released a 100 years, but I 401 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,480 was like I already got the 99, I don't need the 100, right? 402 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,360 What happened that last last? Year they did a hundreds again. 403 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,920 100 was everything. Yeah. 404 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,840 So I I'm guessing one is the camera, 1 is the well actually. 405 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,960 But it's also you can do it for a decade. 406 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240 It's fine. Well, hold on, wait, hold on. 407 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,120 First of all, I would like. I would like. 408 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,280 To I disagree with that. Hold on one second. 409 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,040 I would just like to tell the listener. 410 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,400 So as Vu was saying, hold on. He had his pointer finger on his 411 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,520 temple and he was shaking it back and forth like I got an 412 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,320 idea. I. 413 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,360 Got stuff in my brain. What don't you unscrew the 414 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,400 temple in order to get the ideas? 415 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,400 Please tell us. Is that? 416 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,320 No idea. So no. 417 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,560 For your thought. Leica OK. 418 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,920 In 2013 that 99 years of Leica that was actually from the 1st 419 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:23,480 35mm camera camera prototype, so not on the market, but Oscar 420 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Barnack like developed the camera in 19131914, but then 421 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:35,520 1925, right? So 100 years from last year is 422 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,400 when Leica actually released the like a 1. 423 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:43,160 So it's two different 100 year anniversary. 424 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280 It all makes it all makes sense anyway. 425 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,240 We, I mean, who knows if any of that is true, because you can 426 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,400 kind of 100 years later, you can rewrite the. 427 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,000 History. Also, is it the day you 428 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520 registered the name? Is it the day you sold the first 429 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,480 watch? Is it the day you made the first 430 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,440 one? Citizen. 431 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,560 They had very different reasons but anyway this is to the best 432 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,040 of my knowledge because the Rolex stuff was all over the 433 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,000 place and like 2005 what did they do? 434 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:09,360 So in 2005 it was 100 year anniversary for Rolex but also 435 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:14,120 the 50th anniversary of the GMT Master and they released a gold 436 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:19,640 GMT Master 2 with the first for Rolex ceramic bezels, the 437 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,080 Ceracrone. That was the first. 438 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,400 That was the first watch with a ceracrone bezel. 439 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,640 At the time they said they could only do it in single color, so 440 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320 it was just all black. This was before they were doing 441 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:35,000 the bicolor bezels. And that's that seems to be one 442 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,360 of the big things they did that year as far as enthusiasts are 443 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:42,080 concerned. But if you look beyond the hype 444 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,320 and what people actually care about, in 2005 Rolex released 445 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,800 the Celini prints, which is an all but forgotten watch. 446 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,880 Which is wild because they made the Celini prints until 2015. 447 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,520 They made it from 2005 to 2015. Not a huge success for them. 448 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,120 But it's this tank shaped watch in some ways. 449 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,640 If you look only from the top down, if you look from the side, 450 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,760 it's got this really cool profile, but like it is an art 451 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,040 deco beautiful, like a little bit closer to high horology 452 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,680 styling piece. All gold. 453 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,680 Their first ever open case back is my understanding and the 454 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,240 movements are gorgeous with highly decorated movements and 455 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,000 also a departure for Rolex. This thing is straight up wild 456 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,920 when when you showed it I was. Like. 457 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,440 No, that's not a Rolex. If someone showed it to me 458 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,560 they'd be like wow, look at this. 459 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,880 And there were like 5 different models. 460 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Piece of history and I would be like, Oh no, that's not a Rolex. 461 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,160 I I would actually become like the worst version of a watch 462 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,600 person be like, no, I hate to tell you but that doesn't exist. 463 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080 So I went down a huge rabbit hole with these because then I 464 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,000 was like, I want one. It's the least Rolex looking 465 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,880 Rolex of the modern era because 2015 that's modern Rolex and 466 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,000 they were making these watches. And I actually think to me, it 467 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,640 has a bit of a reverse so shape if you're not going to be able 468 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,760 to reverse it, but it has these higher, yeah, these higher 469 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,840 sides. And then also like a lot of 470 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,160 decoration. A lot of a. 471 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,720 Lot of decoration. Like the case is fully 472 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,040 decorated, the dials are fully decorated, depends on the model 473 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,640 because they had different models and the movement is fully 474 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,240 decorated like quite a lot of decoration. 475 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,800 But and you can pick these up for what I would consider 476 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,200 reasonable prices if anyone wants them. 477 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,320 I guess that's why, yeah, like around $10,000. 478 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:41,480 OK, around. For a goal it. 479 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,560 Depends. For a goal from between. 10 and 480 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,840 15,000. Everyone you know will say is 481 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,760 fake. Then I I think that's. 482 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,480 Great. Well, I think no one would even 483 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,960 know it's a rule. No, that's what I mean. 484 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,640 Yeah, so. They wouldn't think it's fake. 485 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,160 They'd be like, oh, nice, Cartier. 486 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,120 Yeah, no, it doesn't look like a Cartier to me. 487 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,440 We're not talking about watch geeks, we're talking about just 488 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,360 the average. Well, the average person never 489 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:03,360 says. Yeah, exactly. 490 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,280 On your wrist, Yeah, they'll say. 491 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,640 Is that a whoop? That's the the most you'll ever 492 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,720 get from a non watch enthusiast. OK, so tutor 100 years, what 493 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,760 happens? OK. 494 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,760 If so that there's all this speculation in the community and 495 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,560 then I also have my own idea. So that's going to happen. 496 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,840 But that like a lot of people have talked about the fact that 497 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,040 there is literally a collection called the 1926 collection. 498 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,560 OK. You know, it's named after their 499 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,560 birth year when back when they were born to dare. 500 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,680 So it it is there is potential to do something within that 501 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,880 collection and it really makes sense from the 19/26/2026 502 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,600 perspective. However. 503 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,560 But then they already did well, they've. 504 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Done some big things. No, but the to. 505 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,600 Revamp the entire collection. Yeah, but the tutor lunar is 506 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,720 1926, so the brand new moon phase. 507 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,720 The one from last. Year from last year. 508 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Yeah, I do like that one. Just to say that like they are 509 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,600 already doing it. Also, when I go down this list, 510 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,640 when I go down this list, I'm like, have I've never seen some 511 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,040 of these watches, which is like they're all brand new, which 512 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,480 again, I think this is always a good reminder because we live in 513 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,760 like Tudor tool watch space. That's true. 514 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,040 And there's so many other watches that they sell because 515 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,360 they wouldn't have this many references if they're not 516 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:32,400 selling and they have tons and tons of the 1926 more dressy 517 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800 these. Are the kind of watches that a 518 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,680 non watch person would absolutely buy. 519 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,280 Yeah, exactly. Like they fit more into regular 520 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,720 life of just like, oh, I need a nice watch to wear to the office 521 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,360 and in my regular daily life. I, I actually really like that 522 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,680 moon phase, though I, I, I haven't seen it in person yet, 523 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,160 so I need to go and check them out. 524 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,800 But anyway, OK, then of course there's the potential that there 525 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240 would be new black bass. I mean, the Black Bay line is so 526 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,280 broad and far reaching that kind of leaves open almost anything. 527 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600 You know you can do so many things that are heritage 528 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,760 inspired at. Least it is, but it I will. 529 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,720 Last year was a big Black Bay year because they added the 41, 530 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,000 which was really nice to just like have another size. 531 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,080 And it is a strategy that they've had like even when I 532 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,520 look at these 19. 26 the 43, so the 68. 533 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,920 Yeah, the the, the. The 68 that is 43 millimeters. 534 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520 This is too many numbers for my liking. 535 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,840 So the 41 is just the black. Oh yeah. 536 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,000 And then it's the yeah, the big black Bay. 537 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Yeah, but the the BBB, OK, that's how I that's how I will 538 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,000 call it. There's the regular, there's the 539 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,760 no cause. Actually the that's the giant BB 540 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960 cause the. The regular one is technically 541 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,600 the 41. No, I know, but that one was 542 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080 always the big one to me. Then the regular was. 543 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:58,160 The BB58 is the 39mm, the BB54IS the 37mm. 544 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,600 But I also call mine a BBB because it's a baby black Bay so 545 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,160 OK this this doesn't work. Now I have no idea where I was 546 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,640 going. You were talking about Black 547 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,440 Bays and what they might do. With Black Bays, OK, yes, they, 548 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,520 they did. They released a lot of Black 549 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,640 Bays last year, the ones we just talked about, the larger ones. 550 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,120 And then they also did the really cool burgundy one, which 551 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,200 was pulling from the heritage. So I don't know, it's kind of 552 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,680 curious. I'm curious to see. 553 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,120 Maybe Tudor doesn't do anything for their hundred. 554 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,120 Not. Not in a way that it's like this 555 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,160 is for our hundred. I think they will not do that. 556 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,920 I think they'll just have cool watches and if they do anything 557 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,280 that's more of like this 100 years thing, I think they would 558 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,560 release it later in the year and not at watches and wonders as a 559 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440 more one off. So but I I don't think they 560 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,120 will. But if they did. 561 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,960 The other speculation would be that there's a new line 562 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,600 entirely. That feels like 100 year move to 563 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,520 me as opposed to just some limited edition watch. 564 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,120 It's like boom, new line. But the amount of things that 565 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,960 have to line up for a brand to release a new line because you 566 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,840 don't do that only because your 100 year anniversary is coming. 567 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,960 You know, like it's too big of a decision to launch an entire new 568 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,920 product category or product line just because you had an 569 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,720 anniversary, unless people were really hyped for that 570 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,040 anniversary. Yeah. 571 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,600 And I think that's only watch people exactly because what I'll 572 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:36,040 say is OK tutor you walk by a tutor boutique or or a display. 573 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,400 I never walk by, I walk right in. 574 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,200 OK, like let's say a regular person, a normie normie walks by 575 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,720 and they see Tutor and they see like Born to Dare. 576 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,560 That's cool. They see David Beckham. 577 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,120 There's a lot of stuff going on there, a lot of drama right now, 578 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,120 but we won't get into that on the podcast. 579 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,440 That's for my other podcast. It's called Celebrity Drama. 580 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,920 No, but Born to Dare is very cool. 581 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480 It's a cool tagline. The colors are cool. 582 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,680 It makes you feel something. Let's say I'm a consumer. 583 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,960 I walk by and I look up and it has 100 years of tutor. 584 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,240 I don't know, watches. What does that mean? 585 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,400 Is that old or is that young? Is that cool? 586 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Is that something special? It doesn't give you any context 587 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,000 because you have no like a regular person and even myself, 588 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:36,960 I have no true thought towards like how old each brand is. 589 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,240 You kind of know who's newer and younger, but and you know, like 590 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,280 the oldest, you know, the the Holy Trinity and there's some 591 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,920 age that's old. Well, I wonder. 592 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,560 I'm just. Who? 593 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Who tutor is like what? When? 594 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,360 OK. Just like many companies, you, 595 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680 you're trying to appeal probably to multiple different 596 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,880 demographics and you do it in multiple different ways. 597 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200 And so you have these branching. Strategies. 598 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,560 Right. It's like how much are they 599 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,440 trying to appeal to really a younger generation, which now 600 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440 that I'm kind of old, that's a lot of people. 601 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600 So it like the Gen. ZS, right? 602 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,960 Then 100 years doesn't probably like do it for that generation. 603 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,560 Like that's not necessarily that level of heritage. 604 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,640 Like we've been around for 100 years. 605 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,880 Is that what impresses a young person? 606 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,680 Either 500 or nothing. 500 or five months. 607 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,480 We've been around since humans. Yeah, I I think to me when I 608 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,240 like actually think through it, it makes no sense to do 100. 609 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,240 But they may do cool stuff. Hold on. 610 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,680 For I have a pitch, OK for what I think. 611 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,680 For tutor or oh you have a pitch for what you think they're going 612 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720 to release this year even without the 100? 613 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,680 I mean it could or could not be tied to the 100 because it feels 614 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,560 tied to their past without being but also being something new. 615 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,960 OK. OK, but that is that. 616 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,840 Hold on. But that is their tag line. 617 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,360 Yeah, yeah. Tied to the heritage, but bold. 618 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,360 There you go. So in 2023, OK, OK, tutor has a 619 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,159 a slight history of doing something. 620 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:18,120 So actually we'll go to 2019 tutor made for, you know, 'cause 621 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,760 Tudor, back when it existed, made watches for only watch. 622 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560 So these are peace uniques. Back when only watch existed. 623 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,719 Yeah, back when only watch existed, Tudor joined in on the 624 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,480 fun and would make these one off watches. 625 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,400 It's a one of one and they were super cool. 626 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,480 I some of them like really, really cool. 627 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,239 But in 2019 they made a black Bay. 628 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,639 They called it the Black Bay ceramic one. 629 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,320 OK, right. And is almost the same watch 630 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,239 that two years later in 2021 they've released as the Black 631 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,360 Bay Ceramic. It is different like different 632 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,880 styling like the Black Bay Ceramic 1 was. 633 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,800 The dial was fully blacked out, but they all figured it was 634 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,360 black. Everything they figured out how 635 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,440 to do it was ceramic. OK, OK. 636 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,920 And and the. Figured out how to do it. 637 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,760 Doesn't really show the full no process. 638 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,680 Like the latest way to say it, They figured out how to make a 639 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,040 ceramic watch. OK, OK. 640 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,280 And you're an old timing. I don't. 641 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,280 You know why all of a sudden I was old timey, but so it took 642 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,280 two years from them making that prototype. 643 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,200 Well, it wasn't a prototype because they did sell it, but 644 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,040 like that kind of like concept watch to releasing the the the 645 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:39,840 the commercial watch and in 2023 for only watch, they made a 646 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:47,400 super cool watch. It's a full gold, kind of 647 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,920 inspired by the old Big Block chronographs of Tudor. 648 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,680 Big Block was just a nickname by the community because they were 649 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,240 chunky basically. They still are, so I don't know 650 00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,520 why the new ones are. Imagine if you're on the 651 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,160 marketing team and you worked so hard on it and then the 652 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,040 community is like, we're going to call it a big block, but big. 653 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Block is a reference to an engine I just realized and I 654 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,760 think the Pistons I I think that's. 655 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,880 What I realized, I just did that because I called it Big black 656 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,680 bag. Yeah, see tiny baby black bag. 657 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,800 Yeah, exactly. So in 23 they released for only 658 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,440 watch a one of one all gold chronograph that is not at all 659 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,120 based on their current chronographs. 660 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,320 They developed an entire Tutor's first ever in house chronograph 661 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,120 movement with Kinney C of course. 662 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,520 So not based on the B-01 Breitling movement that is in 663 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,080 all of Tutor's current chronographs, including the one 664 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,240 on my wrist. So Tudor developed a movement, a 665 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,840 chronograph movement, which is said to be typically like one of 666 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,080 the more complex ones, you know, much more difficult than a 667 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,680 perpetual calendar. Even a chronograph is a complex 668 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,560 movement to develop. It's very expensive to develop. 669 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,760 They did not do that for an only. 1 only. 670 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,800 One, they did that to replace the B-01 as their chronograph 671 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,720 movement and tutor has an amazing long history of three 672 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,680 register chronographs. So even though all of the modern 673 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,200 tutors have two register chronographs, right, they have 674 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,880 two subdials. The three subdial chronograph is 675 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,000 tutors chronograph history. And I really like it because the 676 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:34,880 three, the three subdials are actually at 12-6 and nine. 677 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,400 So you really have it all on the left side of the dial. 678 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,400 And so it is very different from a Daytona, for example. 679 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,640 It has a very different. Has a different look and also a 680 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600 different way to balance because, you know, chronographs 681 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,520 are inherently lopsided because you have the two pushers in the 682 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,200 crown on one side. I I should say a typical 683 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,520 chronograph because there's many kinds of. 684 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,080 Chronographs. But when you have the sub dials 685 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,920 on the other side, visually you get a little bit of different 686 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,240 type of balance I should say. But anyway, so whether it's this 687 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:12,080 year or next year or the year after they are releasing, they 688 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,840 are going to renew the chronographs within Tudor. 689 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,920 OK, I like the I like this prediction. 690 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,960 I think it could happen this. Year and my prediction is that 691 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,720 you will buy a new release from tutor this year and I will not 692 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,000 that's my prediction really. OK. 693 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,360 Do you take that prediction or I guess it's a bet now, do you? 694 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Take wait so if I buy 1 and you don't I lose something? 695 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,840 What do I lose? No, just the bet just then on 696 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,960 the podcast. Yeah, but I. 697 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,720 Later I'm like, I'm right, you are wrong. 698 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,600 I agree that I will buy a tutor. OK, that's true. 699 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,320 Almost no, but I think you'll buy a new release. 700 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,320 You think a new release? Because I still want that. 701 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,960 Steve, that's a good bet because you've bought like a new tutor. 702 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:57,600 Best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 703 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,480 For four years I've bought a new tutor every year. 704 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,960 So I I don't know. We'll we'll see. 705 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,560 I think there's a high chance that this could be this year. 706 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,160 Whether or not it's tied to 100, who knows. 707 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,840 Yeah, but my prediction is that this year, maybe not. 708 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560 It watches and wonders, though, because tutor, you know, they 709 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,880 don't release everything that watches and wonders. 710 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,880 They sometimes release the original FX D came out in like 711 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,040 November, right? Like so we can't necessarily 712 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,840 predict, but that's my prediction. 713 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,480 OK, we would love to know your predictions so you can go on 714 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,400 social which is Instagram at this Watch Life podcast. 715 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,680 Wait, now why can't I do you not? 716 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,400 Know our instinct you. Met it, or I do, and I know 717 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,400 this. You can also send a message or 718 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,480 ideally a voice message to questions at this Watch 719 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,960 life.com. Yes, and it is at this Watch 720 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,040 Life podcast, but also next week we're going to do AQ and a 721 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,720 episode. So send in questions anywhere 722 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,160 you want and we will answer some. 723 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,360 Yeah, and also now have a great week. 724 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,920 Yes, yes, yes, you must. I predict you'll have a great 725 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,080 week. Bye.