Welcome to this Watch LIVE. Hi, I'm Lydia Winters.
And I'm Boo Booy and this is episode 214.
We're going to talk about Tutor today.
Yeah. So my first question is what are
were were you born to dare? Are you born to?
Are you daring? Yes.
OK. Can I just say yes?
Yeah, I'm wearing a tutor right now.
Wait, so you were born? Born to dare and born to dare
like cause like born as daring. You, like you were born like a
baby to dare, but then you also later in life are born, are
still born. To dare, yeah.
Born to dare forever, yeah. I think that's how it.
Works. OK, today we're going to talk
about the fact that this year, 2026 is 100 years of Tutor.
It is Tutor's 100th anniversary after their founding by Hans
Wilsdorf back in the year 1926. Oh wait, Also, did you know that
it's actually that a tutor watch is Born to Dare?
So maybe you aren't either way. Maybe everything's born to dare.
Yeah. That's pretty.
Yeah. Probably not.
If everything's born to dare, then I feel like nothing's born
to dare. OK, but I mean.
So let's keep it tutor related in order to be born to dare.
Devote but I like that they say we're devoted to the classic but
reject the status quo, which is from their website, which I.
Totally. Believe.
I like I The thing about any marketing is you can always take
it in a cynical way. But then if you really look at
what that the brand is trying to say, there's like people who
wrote that stuff, there's people behind all that, and they
obviously have something they want to communicate.
People like me. People like you.
Exactly. And if you look at what the
message is, usually it's what are they trying to achieve.
And with Tudor, when I look at their marketing, what I think is
they are trying to be a bit different.
They are trying to push some boundaries, but there's still a
company they still have to be commercially successful.
However, they're also boundary push in their own way, and I
think we can talk. About and this Tees it up
perfectly because on this like little born to dare manifesto
page on their website, which I really like tutors website.
They do a great job. You have like history and
images. I would last night I was just
looking at watches that I wanted to buy from the history from.
Like reading about tutor. No, it was like the tutor
advisor, their alarm watch, like they had a one in the 70s and
yeah, just cool, cool stuff. But anyway, I it was so I didn't
get much done on this stuff. No, I'm just kidding.
But they do. I mean, they have one of the
history pages because they have many.
It's like all these different tutor submariners, yeah,
different eras that they went through and what they existed
for. And it's really.
Cool. Yeah, and they also do just like
dates and times. So like, OK, this era in tutor
watchmaking, but this is just like the manifesto.
And I think it really speaks to exactly what you said about them
wanting to be different. The tutor of today has not
drifted away from the original version.
While strictly adhering to the fundamentals of excellence.
The design of a Tutor Watch reinterprets a rich history to
create something truly unique, a bold fusion of the original and
the contemporary in an unrivalled proposition.
Yeah, I think they. Did I think that's cool?
Yeah. Heritage and bolds mashed
together if. If it's not clear, So what?
Are they going to do for 100? We're huge tutors.
We both love. Tutor.
We love tutor and I will say tutor is overall fairly new to
us. But then I thought about it and
I'm like oh wow, time flies because we we were like, oh,
when do we get our first tutors? And although I was interested in
tutors since 2013 is when I first saw like a Tudor Black Bay
and I was like that is cool. I didn't buy one which was my
original Black Bay 58 until 2020.
Yeah, but that's not even that long ago.
That's. What still 6?
Years, but that's what kind of blew my mind because I also got
my tutor in January 2020 and actually you I it was either
you, I think it was probably you talking about the tutor and then
I bought my mini sub because I was just thinking about.
Tutor. I bought a BB58.
You bought a mini sub? The mini sub myself because I
remember you being like whoa, I wasn't even into watching all
the. Time I was really impressed, but
here what was interesting is like you hear the talking points
around Tutor from the enthusiast community and it's all about how
like Tutor is still a brand that makes tool watches that Tutor is
still like these and watch is built for purpose.
And when we think about why we both happened to buy tutors in
January of 2020, it's because we were going on a three-week trip
to Vietnam and Tokyo and we wanted to each wear one watch
and we wanted to feel comfortable with the watch in
terms of like it made sense the price point of the watch and us
going into unknown areas, but also feel very confident with
the watch that it could handle whatever adventure we were
doing. So like when you bought your Neo
vintage mini sub, like we took it immediately to get the seals
checked and make sure that it was ready for an adventure,
which was going to include a lot of beaches.
Yes. But I will say for me it was
because my, my only, you know, I only had the 2 watches, the
Cartier and the Rolex. And my Rolex it was five years.
So I got it serviced. Ohh yeah it was in for service.
Yeah, ohh, young me getting serviced at on the day of five.
I think you've changed your mind about that.
I have. These are robust, beautiful
mechanisms that will go to service if they need it.
When you have a large collection, I mean, you know,
I'm sure there are people who are still like they track their
dates and they go and and do preemptive service.
But I think a lot of collectors kind of buy into that.
Like the Watch is going to tell you what it needs.
Yeah, exactly. It'll let you know.
And for me, I'm so loosey goosey with the time it might be
telling me for a while. You won't even.
Know hey you I'm 5 minutes slow a day and I'm like, oh, I'm just
really all the time. OK, but what was your your most
recent tutor was what? Yeah.
Was my Peligos FXD chrono cycling?
OK, it was the. Cycling Italia, OK, limited
edition. 'Cause you also got the the blue
one for very. Last year, yeah.
So last spring mm Hmm. I bought the black based ceramic
with. Blue one, OK.
And then in the summer I bought the Guerre de Italia.
Yeah, and my most recent was 2023, which is my tutor BB 54,
Yes, which I stand by as one of the best watches in the entire
world. Wow, that's what I'm going to
say about that watch. My one of my favorite watches.
With that even though. I love when I see it on people.
I think it's so beautiful. Yeah, it's just perfect.
But OK, you have more tutors than I do.
What's your favorite tutor? Because this part I don't know.
It changes. Constantly pick one.
Do it. Do it.
Do it, do it. But then I'd have to pick the
the the Garrett Italia, the cycling edition Peligos FXD,
because it's it's the newest one.
It's also the most different from any other watch I own.
Yeah, because it's got the carbon case and you know, like
it's, it's very if it's FXD, so it has fixed lugs.
It's also got this carbon case. It's gigantic.
It's all black. Like it's got pink details.
Like, there's a lot about this watch that stands out in my
collection, and yet. And yet, like, technically, my
favorite is probably still just my original.
Yes, exactly. That's what I was going to say.
Is it MN 21? And then if you say that, then
our tutor watches that were for our 10th anniversary are our
favorite tutors. Oh yeah, 'cause I got you.
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Let's just say.
That's your favorite? Well, you know, if you had
primed me and and we cheated, then yeah, I would have just
said that right away. That's the thing.
I think that Watch will always be my favorite tutor because
it's so important to me, But also I think that FXD represents
in my mind how I saw Tutor, like a shift in how I saw Tutor,
where previously I kind of only saw Tutor as the Black Bay line.
And even though they had the Peligos, right, I only saw them
as the Black Bay line. It's like that's what they're
known for, that's what they care about.
And when the FXD came out, it just like switched the way I
thought about Tudor and I was like, OK, no, Black Bay is super
important. Black Bay is, is part of the
reason that it may be the main reason that Tudor is doing as
well as it's doing right now. And but it it doesn't stop them
from doing these other things and like a fixed lug dive watch
like in Titanium, like in 2021. Yeah, that was a little
unexpected from a brand that's as established as Tutor.
Is, well, I mean the the Lagoon Watch.
Well, yeah. It was very.
Unexpected making. The BB54 in a version that looks
nothing like the BB 54. That was historical.
I just loved that OK, they could have look, everyone wants more
colors of the BB 54. It's so wearable.
It's so even I will be tempted depending on the colors.
I'll be like, yeah, but I also want that one.
But what they did instead is they were like, we're OK, cuz
people yeah, people were debating like will they the
BB54IS based on a historical model?
Will it just be like, that's the one And they were like, hold on,
let's let's make it as wild as possible.
Still pulling from the archives, but like take the same model and
have it juxtaposed as the like. Honestly, you can hardly tell
they're the same watch. But and that is super cool.
That is, that is born to dare. It is.
It's really like within the bounds of using the same case
and the, you know, like it is the same watch.
Technically, you look at those 2 watches and they, to someone who
doesn't know you, you probably wouldn't even think they're from
the same brand, let alone the same model of watch.
And I think that, yeah. And I think that's, I think
that's super cool because what was expected is give me the BB54
in a blue in a maybe blue for sure color.
But please no silver cuz we we know what happened there.
Actual silver tarnished silver colored.
Tarnished not yeah, but like, OK, we changed the dial and
bezel. They have a nice color
combination and yet instead plus mirror bezel and, you know, dial
with a bunch of texture on it, bright, bright, bright blue.
That is cool. That's unexpected.
And that's why I'm I'm very excited for this year.
It is, but I'm always excited for tutor.
It is the newest in their Daring collection.
I forgot about this actual. Like there is a web page on
Tutor's website that is like if you just search Tutor Daring
watches, it comes up and it's a whole page about their five
because there's currently 5 models that they've done that
are part of this, you know, Born to Dare, the Daring Collection.
And I own two of them, which does I think says something and
I would own 3. I actually like it though
because it is like OK I can be born to dare but I'm wearing a
BB54. It is.
You could be born to dare, but you're not.
No, no, no, I still AM under what it means.
Oh, you parented? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But then there's like they're like OK are.
You are. You are you more wild and then
OK, so tell us your your daring watches.
I know it's the pink chronograph.
The pink. Yep.
Black Bay Chronograph Pink. Pinky is my name.
For it, I believe that was the first one, yeah, Was the, you
know, the pink chronograph, and there's also the blue version of
the same chronograph. Which is the Flamingo Blue?
Flamingo Blue and although on the website right now they're
calling it Turquoise, but I I thought they did call it
Flamingo blue but it may have been a community.
Maybe flamingos were mad. No, they did call it Flamingo
Blue at first, but maybe the flamingos, yeah.
We're upset the birds go. We don't talk about birds on
this podcast, OK. And then there's the black based
ceramic with blue dial, which I have.
OK, right. And then the one that I feel
like I really want the watch, but it's got cars on it and
that's the only. Reason.
The carbon, the bright white one, that one's nice.
That one's nice. So.
It's got a carbon fiber case. It has these really cool carbon
fiber end links, and then the dial is white but with blue
along the edges and it just has such a look.
I love that watch. But then on the back it's got
little cars. That watch, I was impressed
because it actually looks like the photos in real life, for
which for which I mean it almost looks like there's a light in
it, like like daytime. Luminous.
Yeah, Daytime. OK, what's the fifth one?
The BB 54 with. Oh yeah, blue.
Yes, the one you've been talking about.
And the one that you said, it was part of the daring color,
yes. So I did not pass that.
Are you following? No, I.
OK. So because this is the 100 years
of tutor, there's been a lot of speculation around what could
this be. So what I wanted to do was very
quickly touch on what some other brands have done for 100 years,
OK? Because it kind of gives you an
idea of even like how brands think of 100 and it's not, I
don't know, I feel like it's not as big of a deal as I would want
to make it for a lot of brands. So, OK, 2024 was Seiko's 100.
Well, one of their one hundreds. This is a common theme.
Across not just watch brands. It's like 100 since what?
So 20/24 was 100 years since the first watch with Seiko on the
dial. OK.
Right. So it's the first time they've
they used the Seiko brand on a watch and it's the Prasaj
Kintaro Hitore limited edition. It's the model number is SJE
095. Really cool, very faithful
recreation of that watch. The hands are ridiculous.
I love them. It's such a cool watch, but they
did it as this thousand piece, you know, limited edition, which
I'm like, come on, commit to the 100.
Why you doing 1000? No, they did 100 pieces.
No, they did 1000. Oh, they did 1000. 1000 on that
one, yeah. And they, you know, they sold
out. It's.
It's very it. All makes sense.
I love it. I think it's a great watch.
It's quite small. I don't remember the exact size
of it, but beautiful watch. But that was their main thing
they did. They did some other things
throughout the year. Then Citizen also had their 20
or 100 year anniversary in 2024. But then it was that like 100
year anniversary of the the brand and they did the 100th
anniversary of the first Citizen watch special limited edition.
They're not the best at naming. I mean.
This was 100 piece. OK.
That one was 100. And like, kind of unexpected.
It's a pocket watch. That's cool.
And it's not a recreation. It's like it was a new item,
$9000 U.S. dollars, but they made a whole new movement for
it. It's really beautiful in house
movement and it the movement is a size where they almost
certainly will be putting this into a watch or, or many
watches. So it's cool that they developed
this manual wine movement for it.
So like they really committed to making something new that also
sets the stage for additional new things because this whole
pocket watch was only 43.5mm. So like.
That means you could move. Use that movement easily in like
a 42mm, maybe even a 40mm because if you look at the open
case back, there is quite a lot of room in the case.
So then I was looking around because a lot of watch brands
that we like are way more than 100 years old.
So like when they had their hundred.
Year old reason why when you celebrate 100, yeah, it makes
you seem a lot younger. It's true in watches, 100 isn't
necessarily. And everybody's like,
congratulations, you're a teenager, so I mean you.
Know yeah, like so in 2019 Breitling did 100 year but the
because Breitling is considerably older than 100
years they did 100 years of Bentley.
OK, who's been a long term partner of theirs, but that's
not a surprise at all. So they did a Breitling
premiere, that was the Bentley Centenary and that was another
limited edition. And then if you go back,
Hamilton turned 100 in 1992 and they did an all gold reissue of
the Hamilton Spur, which was like an old design of theirs.
Super cool. So that was their hundred year
watch. I have so much to say, OK,
Tudor's not going to do this because as we read on the
website, they are taking the heritage designs and making them
bold. So when they they do reissues
already, the BB 54 is a reissue like a reinterpretation.
Reinterpretation. Yeah.
But then you're not going to put like 100 years on the back.
So this is what I mean. They will keep doing reissues,
reinterpretations, because that is the core to what they do.
But I don't think they'll label it as that when I.
Don't think they'll do a straight replica of an
historical model and call it the hundred year.
No, I don't think so. I looked back and they haven't
done anything for anniversaries, but if they did, I just want, I
just want to say I would love to have and this is my only thing
if the BB 54 had the tutor rose logo, I would be so happy if I
could have the wrote the original logo version Yeah yeah
I. Love the tutor Rose I I I would
love the. Tutor rose not the most.
Not any Black Baywatch. And I also will not the Pelegos
hold on. I just would like to say as a
brand person, I, I will debate that that is not a good move,
but. I don't know if it's not a good.
Move. No, but I just mean as a person
who wants it. I would love something with the
Tudor Rose. But I think that's in the Black
Bay line. The Tudor Rose totally fits.
Even though they have put it on the crown for some watches so
OK. Is it on this watch?
It is. So then it is still.
Is a rose. It's not that that style.
Yeah, but it's it's using the the Rose.
Yeah, the Rose part. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They took away the thorns. I only have a couple more.
Here. OK, OK.
So when Gucci turned 100, that was in 2021.
Obviously not a watch brand, but for their hundred years.
They released a bunch of watches.
Interesting and it was their first in house movements.
Like they went all in on watches in 2021 for their hundred year
anniversary. They also, just recently, this
has nothing to do with anniversaries, but whatever,
we're a watch podcast. They recently did a re release
or like a new version of the Gucci watches that have all the
different bezels and colours that you can put on.
Oh, that's cool because the the vintage scene and like a lot of
people were talking about them and that's cool.
They they understood that this watch had become something in
the community and for different people and people were hunting
for it as vintage and then they remade it.
Yeah. Love that.
So the Gucci 25-H came out in 2021 and it it was a whole line.
They had like a tour behind on. They had a platinum one and then
they had a regular steel one, which was somewhere around the
$8000. Like not, not a super
approachable watch, but I guess that makes sense for Gucci and
their positioning in the market. And then, OK, so now I was like,
OK, what did Rolex do? And here's a weird thing about
Rolex. Maybe it's not about Rolex.
Yeah, here's one of the weird things around the information
that exists around Rolex. So I think 2020. 4.
Well, in 2024, we were trying to figure out was that the
anniversary for GMT Master 2 or maybe GMT Master, because there
was so much conflicting information about was it 1954 or
1955 and all of this different stuff.
Well, so I thought, OK, Rolex is 100 year wasn't that long ago,
it's 2005. But just looking that up,
there's conflicting information about what happened.
And I'm like, that's 20. The Internet existed in 2005 and
was thriving in 2005. It was only one year before.
You you need to change the dates so they sound.
Bad anyway. No, but I'm not even saying
Rolex is doing. This like a has been celebrating
100 years for. For 100 years so.
It's not for. For 11/11/11 years ago I bought
a book that it was a like a book that was 99 years of life.
Which is very specific and that is a.
Date and then in 2014 I think they released a 100 years, but I
was like I already got the 99, I don't need the 100, right?
What happened that last last? Year they did a hundreds again.
100 was everything. Yeah.
So I I'm guessing one is the camera, 1 is the well actually.
But it's also you can do it for a decade.
It's fine. Well, hold on, wait, hold on.
First of all, I would like. I would like.
To I disagree with that. Hold on one second.
I would just like to tell the listener.
So as Vu was saying, hold on. He had his pointer finger on his
temple and he was shaking it back and forth like I got an
idea. I.
Got stuff in my brain. What don't you unscrew the
temple in order to get the ideas?
Please tell us. Is that?
No idea. So no.
For your thought. Leica OK.
In 2013 that 99 years of Leica that was actually from the 1st
35mm camera camera prototype, so not on the market, but Oscar
Barnack like developed the camera in 19131914, but then
1925, right? So 100 years from last year is
when Leica actually released the like a 1.
So it's two different 100 year anniversary.
It all makes it all makes sense anyway.
We, I mean, who knows if any of that is true, because you can
kind of 100 years later, you can rewrite the.
History. Also, is it the day you
registered the name? Is it the day you sold the first
watch? Is it the day you made the first
one? Citizen.
They had very different reasons but anyway this is to the best
of my knowledge because the Rolex stuff was all over the
place and like 2005 what did they do?
So in 2005 it was 100 year anniversary for Rolex but also
the 50th anniversary of the GMT Master and they released a gold
GMT Master 2 with the first for Rolex ceramic bezels, the
Ceracrone. That was the first.
That was the first watch with a ceracrone bezel.
At the time they said they could only do it in single color, so
it was just all black. This was before they were doing
the bicolor bezels. And that's that seems to be one
of the big things they did that year as far as enthusiasts are
concerned. But if you look beyond the hype
and what people actually care about, in 2005 Rolex released
the Celini prints, which is an all but forgotten watch.
Which is wild because they made the Celini prints until 2015.
They made it from 2005 to 2015. Not a huge success for them.
But it's this tank shaped watch in some ways.
If you look only from the top down, if you look from the side,
it's got this really cool profile, but like it is an art
deco beautiful, like a little bit closer to high horology
styling piece. All gold.
Their first ever open case back is my understanding and the
movements are gorgeous with highly decorated movements and
also a departure for Rolex. This thing is straight up wild
when when you showed it I was. Like.
No, that's not a Rolex. If someone showed it to me
they'd be like wow, look at this.
And there were like 5 different models.
Piece of history and I would be like, Oh no, that's not a Rolex.
I I would actually become like the worst version of a watch
person be like, no, I hate to tell you but that doesn't exist.
So I went down a huge rabbit hole with these because then I
was like, I want one. It's the least Rolex looking
Rolex of the modern era because 2015 that's modern Rolex and
they were making these watches. And I actually think to me, it
has a bit of a reverse so shape if you're not going to be able
to reverse it, but it has these higher, yeah, these higher
sides. And then also like a lot of
decoration. A lot of a.
Lot of decoration. Like the case is fully
decorated, the dials are fully decorated, depends on the model
because they had different models and the movement is fully
decorated like quite a lot of decoration.
But and you can pick these up for what I would consider
reasonable prices if anyone wants them.
I guess that's why, yeah, like around $10,000.
OK, around. For a goal it.
Depends. For a goal from between. 10 and
15,000. Everyone you know will say is
fake. Then I I think that's.
Great. Well, I think no one would even
know it's a rule. No, that's what I mean.
Yeah, so. They wouldn't think it's fake.
They'd be like, oh, nice, Cartier.
Yeah, no, it doesn't look like a Cartier to me.
We're not talking about watch geeks, we're talking about just
the average. Well, the average person never
says. Yeah, exactly.
On your wrist, Yeah, they'll say.
Is that a whoop? That's the the most you'll ever
get from a non watch enthusiast. OK, so tutor 100 years, what
happens? OK.
If so that there's all this speculation in the community and
then I also have my own idea. So that's going to happen.
But that like a lot of people have talked about the fact that
there is literally a collection called the 1926 collection.
OK. You know, it's named after their
birth year when back when they were born to dare.
So it it is there is potential to do something within that
collection and it really makes sense from the 19/26/2026
perspective. However.
But then they already did well, they've.
Done some big things. No, but the to.
Revamp the entire collection. Yeah, but the tutor lunar is
1926, so the brand new moon phase.
The one from last. Year from last year.
Yeah, I do like that one. Just to say that like they are
already doing it. Also, when I go down this list,
when I go down this list, I'm like, have I've never seen some
of these watches, which is like they're all brand new, which
again, I think this is always a good reminder because we live in
like Tudor tool watch space. That's true.
And there's so many other watches that they sell because
they wouldn't have this many references if they're not
selling and they have tons and tons of the 1926 more dressy
these. Are the kind of watches that a
non watch person would absolutely buy.
Yeah, exactly. Like they fit more into regular
life of just like, oh, I need a nice watch to wear to the office
and in my regular daily life. I, I actually really like that
moon phase, though I, I, I haven't seen it in person yet,
so I need to go and check them out.
But anyway, OK, then of course there's the potential that there
would be new black bass. I mean, the Black Bay line is so
broad and far reaching that kind of leaves open almost anything.
You know you can do so many things that are heritage
inspired at. Least it is, but it I will.
Last year was a big Black Bay year because they added the 41,
which was really nice to just like have another size.
And it is a strategy that they've had like even when I
look at these 19. 26 the 43, so the 68.
Yeah, the the, the. The 68 that is 43 millimeters.
This is too many numbers for my liking.
So the 41 is just the black. Oh yeah.
And then it's the yeah, the big black Bay.
Yeah, but the the BBB, OK, that's how I that's how I will
call it. There's the regular, there's the
no cause. Actually the that's the giant BB
cause the. The regular one is technically
the 41. No, I know, but that one was
always the big one to me. Then the regular was.
The BB58 is the 39mm, the BB54IS the 37mm.
But I also call mine a BBB because it's a baby black Bay so
OK this this doesn't work. Now I have no idea where I was
going. You were talking about Black
Bays and what they might do. With Black Bays, OK, yes, they,
they did. They released a lot of Black
Bays last year, the ones we just talked about, the larger ones.
And then they also did the really cool burgundy one, which
was pulling from the heritage. So I don't know, it's kind of
curious. I'm curious to see.
Maybe Tudor doesn't do anything for their hundred.
Not. Not in a way that it's like this
is for our hundred. I think they will not do that.
I think they'll just have cool watches and if they do anything
that's more of like this 100 years thing, I think they would
release it later in the year and not at watches and wonders as a
more one off. So but I I don't think they
will. But if they did.
The other speculation would be that there's a new line
entirely. That feels like 100 year move to
me as opposed to just some limited edition watch.
It's like boom, new line. But the amount of things that
have to line up for a brand to release a new line because you
don't do that only because your 100 year anniversary is coming.
You know, like it's too big of a decision to launch an entire new
product category or product line just because you had an
anniversary, unless people were really hyped for that
anniversary. Yeah.
And I think that's only watch people exactly because what I'll
say is OK tutor you walk by a tutor boutique or or a display.
I never walk by, I walk right in.
OK, like let's say a regular person, a normie normie walks by
and they see Tutor and they see like Born to Dare.
That's cool. They see David Beckham.
There's a lot of stuff going on there, a lot of drama right now,
but we won't get into that on the podcast.
That's for my other podcast. It's called Celebrity Drama.
No, but Born to Dare is very cool.
It's a cool tagline. The colors are cool.
It makes you feel something. Let's say I'm a consumer.
I walk by and I look up and it has 100 years of tutor.
I don't know, watches. What does that mean?
Is that old or is that young? Is that cool?
Is that something special? It doesn't give you any context
because you have no like a regular person and even myself,
I have no true thought towards like how old each brand is.
You kind of know who's newer and younger, but and you know, like
the oldest, you know, the the Holy Trinity and there's some
age that's old. Well, I wonder.
I'm just. Who?
Who tutor is like what? When?
OK. Just like many companies, you,
you're trying to appeal probably to multiple different
demographics and you do it in multiple different ways.
And so you have these branching. Strategies.
Right. It's like how much are they
trying to appeal to really a younger generation, which now
that I'm kind of old, that's a lot of people.
So it like the Gen. ZS, right?
Then 100 years doesn't probably like do it for that generation.
Like that's not necessarily that level of heritage.
Like we've been around for 100 years.
Is that what impresses a young person?
Either 500 or nothing. 500 or five months.
We've been around since humans. Yeah, I I think to me when I
like actually think through it, it makes no sense to do 100.
But they may do cool stuff. Hold on.
For I have a pitch, OK for what I think.
For tutor or oh you have a pitch for what you think they're going
to release this year even without the 100?
I mean it could or could not be tied to the 100 because it feels
tied to their past without being but also being something new.
OK. OK, but that is that.
Hold on. But that is their tag line.
Yeah, yeah. Tied to the heritage, but bold.
There you go. So in 2023, OK, OK, tutor has a
a slight history of doing something.
So actually we'll go to 2019 tutor made for, you know, 'cause
Tudor, back when it existed, made watches for only watch.
So these are peace uniques. Back when only watch existed.
Yeah, back when only watch existed, Tudor joined in on the
fun and would make these one off watches.
It's a one of one and they were super cool.
I some of them like really, really cool.
But in 2019 they made a black Bay.
They called it the Black Bay ceramic one.
OK, right. And is almost the same watch
that two years later in 2021 they've released as the Black
Bay Ceramic. It is different like different
styling like the Black Bay Ceramic 1 was.
The dial was fully blacked out, but they all figured it was
black. Everything they figured out how
to do it was ceramic. OK, OK.
And and the. Figured out how to do it.
Doesn't really show the full no process.
Like the latest way to say it, They figured out how to make a
ceramic watch. OK, OK.
And you're an old timing. I don't.
You know why all of a sudden I was old timey, but so it took
two years from them making that prototype.
Well, it wasn't a prototype because they did sell it, but
like that kind of like concept watch to releasing the the the
the commercial watch and in 2023 for only watch, they made a
super cool watch. It's a full gold, kind of
inspired by the old Big Block chronographs of Tudor.
Big Block was just a nickname by the community because they were
chunky basically. They still are, so I don't know
why the new ones are. Imagine if you're on the
marketing team and you worked so hard on it and then the
community is like, we're going to call it a big block, but big.
Block is a reference to an engine I just realized and I
think the Pistons I I think that's.
What I realized, I just did that because I called it Big black
bag. Yeah, see tiny baby black bag.
Yeah, exactly. So in 23 they released for only
watch a one of one all gold chronograph that is not at all
based on their current chronographs.
They developed an entire Tutor's first ever in house chronograph
movement with Kinney C of course.
So not based on the B-01 Breitling movement that is in
all of Tutor's current chronographs, including the one
on my wrist. So Tudor developed a movement, a
chronograph movement, which is said to be typically like one of
the more complex ones, you know, much more difficult than a
perpetual calendar. Even a chronograph is a complex
movement to develop. It's very expensive to develop.
They did not do that for an only. 1 only.
One, they did that to replace the B-01 as their chronograph
movement and tutor has an amazing long history of three
register chronographs. So even though all of the modern
tutors have two register chronographs, right, they have
two subdials. The three subdial chronograph is
tutors chronograph history. And I really like it because the
three, the three subdials are actually at 12-6 and nine.
So you really have it all on the left side of the dial.
And so it is very different from a Daytona, for example.
It has a very different. Has a different look and also a
different way to balance because, you know, chronographs
are inherently lopsided because you have the two pushers in the
crown on one side. I I should say a typical
chronograph because there's many kinds of.
Chronographs. But when you have the sub dials
on the other side, visually you get a little bit of different
type of balance I should say. But anyway, so whether it's this
year or next year or the year after they are releasing, they
are going to renew the chronographs within Tudor.
OK, I like the I like this prediction.
I think it could happen this. Year and my prediction is that
you will buy a new release from tutor this year and I will not
that's my prediction really. OK.
Do you take that prediction or I guess it's a bet now, do you?
Take wait so if I buy 1 and you don't I lose something?
What do I lose? No, just the bet just then on
the podcast. Yeah, but I.
Later I'm like, I'm right, you are wrong.
I agree that I will buy a tutor. OK, that's true.
Almost no, but I think you'll buy a new release.
You think a new release? Because I still want that.
Steve, that's a good bet because you've bought like a new tutor.
Best. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For four years I've bought a new tutor every year.
So I I don't know. We'll we'll see.
I think there's a high chance that this could be this year.
Whether or not it's tied to 100, who knows.
Yeah, but my prediction is that this year, maybe not.
It watches and wonders, though, because tutor, you know, they
don't release everything that watches and wonders.
They sometimes release the original FX D came out in like
November, right? Like so we can't necessarily
predict, but that's my prediction.
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