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Welcome to this watch live. 
Hi, I'm Lydia Winters and today 

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we're talking all about 
traveling with watches. 

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It's man, my philosophy has 
really changed quite a bit. 

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In traveling. 
No, OK. 

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I guess I. 
Is the philosophy when you look 

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back and you retroactively just 
say? 

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Turn it into. 
This is what I probably was 

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thinking. 
Yeah, I think that could be a 

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philosophy. 
Right. 

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I mean could. 
Isn't that what you have to do 

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to make a philosophy is look at 
what people have been doing? 

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Maybe that's what you have to 
do. 

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Yeah, that's true. 
Yeah, well. 

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So you have it. 
OK You're going to share with us

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your retroactive philosophy 
today, and it is spurred on by a

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question from Dogs on Time. 
How many watches do you take 

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with you while traveling? 
Oh, OK, so I've broken mine into

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three different timelines. 
Timeline one is when I had one 

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steel sports watch and that was 
just my Rolex date, just it was 

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on an oyster bracelet. 
I now have a Jubilee for it, but

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at the time oyster bracelet, 
flat bezel, white dial, it's 

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very like. 
It's pretty low key and I have 

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worn it around the world and. 
That was. 

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Like where I I I yeah, if I was 
going anywhere. 

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I wore that watch, basically. 
You've owned that watch for 9 

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years now and it went 
everywhere. 

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Yeah, it's been to Vietnam, 
Nepal, the US way too many times

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to count. 
Ibiza. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, just like you're up all 

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over. 
Basically everywhere you went. 

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Everywhere I went, yeah, Japan, 
anywhere that I went, it was on 

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my wrist. 
Which is probably how most 

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watchers travel. 
Yes, and it it honestly it was a

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simpler time it. 
Was a simpler. 

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Time. 
And it was a nice time. 

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When I look back, I'm like, wow,
it's so cool. 

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That probably will be, well, OK.
Yeah, that probably will be my 

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only watch that has that type of
mileage for sure, because all 

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the rest, there's too many. 
So I I had a very different 

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experience during those years. 
So we used to travel. 

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A lot. 
A lot. 

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A lot. 
Around 35% of the year, Ish. 

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To different places and yeah. 
For work. 

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And during that time for me, I 
almost always traveled with 

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three watches and that time 
being like the 2015 through 

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2018, yeah. 
That kind of blew my mind 

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because if you would have asked 
me how many watches you traveled

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with, I would have said, oh, you
only wore your Rolex Explorer 2 

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everywhere, but you didn't 
travel like you didn't have more

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watches. 
Nope. 

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But I always did, and I 
confirmed this last night. 

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Did a little research, went back
through old photos, and Yep, it 

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was on my wrist most of the time
because that was still my 

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favorite. 
Watch. 

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But then there'd be little 
appearances. 

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So it used to be that I'd travel
with my Explorer too, on my 

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wrist. 
Like when you get on the plane, 

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of course it's the GMT that's on
your wrist. 

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And then in my backpack, in a 
little pouch, I would carry two 

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additional watches and it was a 
Speedmaster Pro and a Nomos, 

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either the Ahoya of the Orion, 
and that depended on what the 

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trip was. 
OK. 

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Yeah. 
So, and this was mainly for 

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trips that I would do business 
trips to the US then these were 

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the three watches that would 
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would trade out the different 
watches for the different 

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meetings or yeah, what I was 
doing that day, yeah, that that 

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would, would would decide which 
watches made it to the wrist. 

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Yeah, and I would wear my date 
test. 

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You would wear. 
That was my one watch all the 

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time, living the dream. 
But I actually think the reason 

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I traveled with three was 
because this was in like early 

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2016. 
We were in New York. 

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This is. 
So weird to think about. 

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I it's so funny. 
I wish I had more photos there. 

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OK, I'll let you describe it 
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So in 2016, we just happened to 
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Trip on a work trip, yeah. 
And on an in between day or in 

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between time, we went to Chelsea
Market and we're like, oh, 

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there's like a watch thing 
happening here. 

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Yeah, And it was warning wounds.
Wind up Watch. 

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Fair. 
Yeah, it it it's so we didn't 

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realize until like years later. 
Years later, we're like, oh 

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wait, Warren and Wound wait, 
don't I have a case that has 

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their name on it? 
Oh wait, yeah. 

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So it took years to even know 
what warning one was. 

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Because back then, we didn't 
read a lot. 

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We didn't research a lot. 
I didn't read. 

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No, we just owned the watch as 
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Own I read other stuff, just not
watch blog. 

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You knew how to. 
Read. 

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Watch publications. 
I knew how. 

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You're literate. 
Yes. 

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We don't want to give people the
wrong idea. 

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But anyway, so we went there and
I bought this little little 

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canvas and leather watch pouch. 
Still have it. 

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It's great, but because it held 
2 watches it made me feel like 

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I. 
Should have. 2 watches. 

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Oh, that's really funny. 
And that's that's what created 

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that habit for me. 
Of three watches. 

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Of three watches prior to that, 
I would bring 2. 

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You would bring the Speedmaster 
and the yeah and the. 

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And the Explorer two, OK, yeah, 
yeah, yeah. 

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So it's, it's, it's funny how 
that mindset was set by just 

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something I bought. 
Yeah, not for any philosophical 

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reasons. 
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But so then I like my second 
time frame was sort of getting 

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into watches more. 
That's around that 2020 time. 

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We had given back and forth 
beautiful nomos and I would 

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bring those on trips sometimes, 
but it was like, oh, if I was 

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going to wear them on stage, IA 
lot of times wore my Tetra 

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because it's so beautiful from 
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And that watch I would bring 
additionally, but mainly I would

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wear the date just because it 
was easy, I could run around 

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with it. 
And then in 2020 my Rolex was in

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for service and I bought the 
Tudor mini sub to take 

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specifically to Vietnam. 
And then that was the only watch

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I brought because again, I was 
just like you wear one watch. 

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And especially so, I think this 
is part of my philosophy is like

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if you're traveling to multiple 
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places maybe you haven't been 
before, I usually just wear the 

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the one watch on my wrist. 
Which I understand, it's it's 

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just a mentality thing. 
But for me it was the same 

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thing. 
I bought the BB 58 specifically 

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for going on that trip and then 
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But since it does not have a 
quick adjust, I also brought a 

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NATO because we were going 
somewhere hot and I knew that it

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would be uncomfortable. 
So that was my only watch for 

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the trip. 
And it was true, because that 

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trip was like a many, many. 
Men. 

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Yeah, we went a lot of places. 
And then to me it just gets like

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cumbersome to have it. 
Actually, just it's more of 

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like, it takes up mindspace of 
your like, oh, it's in my bag. 

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The bag needs to stay on me. 
Oh, is it still in my bag? 

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Oh, I don't want to keep opening
my bag and looking at, yeah. 

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So for me, on a trip where I'm 
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really like to wear one watch. 
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And I think that is a great way 
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But then when we think about the
times when we go on a trip where

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it's just one destination, you 
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You know, obviously this is to 
people's comfort. 

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Or like a hotel in Seattle and 
visiting my family, I bring a 

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lot more. 
Watches, so, OK, last year we we

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went to Seattle and we went to 
Florida and what did you bring 

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on that trip? 
On that trip, I brought the 

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celebration. 
This. 

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Is when. 
Oh, but you had. 

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Plans. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
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You're skipping ahead. 
So then on the Vietnam, which it

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was Vietnam. 
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up for a work trip in Japan. 
I bought another watch in Japan.

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Next time I go to Japan, I'm 
wearing no watches. 

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I'm buying all the watches like.
We were just talking about this 

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last weekend that we want to 
plan a whole big thing and make 

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it just a trip to Japan. 
To Tokyo. 

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And well. 
Yeah, maybe more places. 

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Yeah, because we've only been to
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We've spent all of our Japan 
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want to do this trip and like 
make a whole production out of 

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it. 
Like make a little mini 

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documentary about going to Japan
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And picking which watches to 
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It's. 
It's a very the amazing thing 

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about being in Japan. 
It's not just about shopping for

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Seiko and Grand Seiko and other.
It's everything. 

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And so many special limited 
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It's because, like, there's a 
great culture of both collecting

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and of taking care of things in 
Japan. 

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And so when we were there, I 
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We. 
Didn't even. 

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Scratch the surface though. 
I went into like basically I 

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followed you around to all the 
Grand Seiko places you want to 

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see and I went in one store and 
then I bought an IWC 37 O 6 like

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I want that one. 
It was a really cool store, yes,

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it's called GMT. 
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was one watch and then even 
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guess that was still pre pre. 
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Pandemic was when I really got 
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So I was buying more watches but
had not many places to wear 

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them. 
So then I think my post Pandemic

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Travel which was mostly like to 
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the US then I wanted to bring 
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So this is where that this is 
like the middle part where it 

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was just like watches, watches, 
watches. 

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Which is the same as my 
collecting just like watches, 

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watches. 
So I was bringing the watch I 

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would wear on my wrist, plus 3 
watches. 

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Yes, because you have a watch 
roll that holds 3. 

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Watches. 
It's. 

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The deluxe one that you got as a
gift. 

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So and I yeah, I really, but it 
was, it felt like it was being 

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able to like show my family my 
watches after getting into it or

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like. 
Meet. 

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Watches or meet up with watch 
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So it felt like just like having
all of these watches with me. 

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So typically it was like, OK, 
you know, I brought the GMT 

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Master 2 because it's like super
cool to show my family. 

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I I usually bring the Rolex date
just now because my sister Mindy

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loves wearing it. 
So I let her wear it. 

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So it's like, OK, that one goes 
in there. 

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I think I brought a Cartier to 
show my mom. 

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So again, it was like to show my
family or friends, but it was 

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that mindset of like, I want to 
have all the watches with me. 

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After that, like now on the the 
most recent times I've traveled,

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I've been more towards let me 
just wear a watch on my wrist 

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and maybe I'm going to buy 
something on the trip. 

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But if I just have one watch 
with me, it's a lot easier to 

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deal with. 
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I also think there was a period 
of time when I remember you 

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actually saying you'd miss your 
watches like that's why and part

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of that is because you were in a
a heavy acquisition phase. 

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Yes, so a. 
Lot of your watches felt new to 

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you. 
Yeah. 

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So maybe over time that will 
become easier. 

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But when I looked back, I like I
just went through photos, right?

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Old photos, big trips where I 
was going somewhere farther. 

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So when we went to Vietnam in 
2017, Ecuador 2016, Sydney 2017,

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then I was a one watch person, 
even though many of those trips 

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it was a one location. 
So it's like there's so many 

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different. 
Variables you. 

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Think about when when going on a
trip that dictates what you 

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bring. 
I mean, we've been talking about

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this because we plan to go to 
watches and wonders. 

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For four? 
For three days. 

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For three days, April 11th 
through 14th. 

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If you're there, let us know. 
Let us know, maybe we'll meet 

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up. 
And so it's a hot topic of what 

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to wear. 
It is. 

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I think this is. 
But The thing is, it's really 

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fun too. 
One thing I just realized is a 

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lot of times even if I'm 
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I still have like a primary 
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It's the watch I wear on the 
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It's just the watch that I feel 
is like most represents whatever

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the trip is. 
So like in Florida it's been 

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well, I guess I've been to visit
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I've taken the turquoise, the 
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But each time like that was one 
of those O PS basically was the 

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like primary and then I brought 
other watches with me. 

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Yeah, So what is what are you 
thinking for your primary for 

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watches and wonders? 
I've been thinking about 

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bringing only the Chopard 
skeleton because it's like just 

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different. 
And you know, whenever you're 

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around, like lots of watch 
nerds, you just want to have 

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something that is cool and 
different, Yes. 

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And so for me, I think that 
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people would be interested to 
look at. 

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I think that that's always the 
difficulty. 

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And this is everyone who's seen 
every watch like this is a hard 

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this is a tough crown. 
It's a tough crown. 

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I assume 'cause we haven't even 
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No, but but you know, it's but 
you know a lot of the people who

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are there and you know that 
they've seen tons of watches. 

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So again, it's similar to what 
we spoke about recently that you

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think about what you want to 
wear based on who you're going 

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to see and what might be fun for
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And when you're going to to meet
up with like people who are deep

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into watches, it's harder and 
harder to think of something 

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that they haven't seen. 
And our collections I wouldn't 

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say are full of like. 
Rare gems. 

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Yeah, that's fine. 
I feel very confident we can say

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there's not rare gems, but then 
there's gems. 

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Makes sense because that's 
probably the rarest gem and it's

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brand new. 
I mean, it's a it's a vintage 

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watch, but it's new to you. 
Yeah, I haven't even really worn

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it myself, so it would be super 
cool. 

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It would be super cool to bring 
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I also think, again, when you 
think of like your location, a 

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lot of times I'm like checking 
the safety in that area in 

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Geneva. 
It's more about the fact that 

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you like if you have too many 
watches, you look suspicious 

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like you're bringing watches in.
I'm not going to be Arnold 

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Schwarzenegger here, yeah. 
Read accounts of people 

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traveling with with their 
personal watches, but because 

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they're traveling with so many 
that they they pay tax on it. 

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Yeah, And I'm kind of like, I 
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with it or think about it. 
So I might be a one watch lady 

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for watches and wonders. 
I'm saying that now. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But we'll see what happens in. 

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Two months N.W.A that I'll 
announce sometime soon. 

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That might be my watch. 
Oh, interesting suspense. 

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It wasn't meant to be, I was 
going to say. 

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And then I was like, wait, no 
one knows that I've I've bought 

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that watch. 
Yeah, so it's a suspense. 

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So I guess it is suspense. 
Unintentional. 

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I guess We'll leave you with a 
little suspense today, but tell 

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us, what is your philosophy for 
travelling with watches? 

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Has it changed a lot? 
Is it the same? 

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What do you wear? 
What's like your go to? 

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Oh, that's a lot of questions. 
That's. 

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A. 
Lot. 

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Do a full podcast on it and 
report back. 

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This your podcast? 
Bye.

