1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,400 Welcome to this Watch LIVE. Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,120 And I'm Boo booey. Hey, Boo. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,160 Yeah. Have you ever made a mistake? 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,000 No, I don't make mistakes. What are? 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,320 You talking? Well, I'm going to need you to 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,000 answer yes. OK, the sake of the podcast. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,800 Let's pretend yes, I've made a mistake. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Have you ever made a mistake that turned out to be super 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,720 impressive and notable? Probably not. 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Wait, yes. Wait, no, you actually have an 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,040 example. Fine, go ahead. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,200 But it's also very stupid at the same time. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,880 OK, I like. So I was very young, and when I 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,080 was younger I rode motorcycles. That's not the thing that's 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,520 stupid. Lots of people are riding 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,320 motorcycles, OK. My friends thought I was silly 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,320 for being like an old man because I was in my young 20s, 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,000 but I owned like a big old man bike is a is a Yamaha Venture, 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,480 which is similar to like a Honda Goldwing. 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,800 It had a CD player, right? So I like that. 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,560 Big old bike. I was, you know, it made fun of 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,280 a little for that, but I didn't care 'cause I was riding in 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,080 comfort. So friend of mine, he had just 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,280 put a bunch of money into his car and he's like, I could beat 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,000 you in a race. And I was like, look, here's the 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,720 thing. I know I have an old man bike, 27 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:31,080 but it's a bike. Yeah, it's faster. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,760 It's faster, just period. It's faster. 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Like it's got AV 6 and it's a motorcycle. 30 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,240 And so he's like, all right, let's race. 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,840 So we went to race. The mistake is that you were 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,440 racing. That was the stupid. 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,080 Part. OK, OK. 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, but the mistake 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,720 is we were at a red light. Light turned green. 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Yeah, we both go vroom. Yeah, I lifted the front tire 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,120 rib and did a wheelie, not intentionally. 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,040 I have never my life done a wheelie only on a bicycle and I 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,920 was never good on. An old man bike. 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:14,320 And had to hit the brake to get the front back down and then hit 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,880 the gas again because I'm still in a race the whole time. 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:24,320 Freaking out like this is one of those things where you just kind 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,960 of feel like you probably died and now you're you're dreaming. 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Oh, OK. You know, just one of those. 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Old things, one of those things I won the race and before I got 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,040 to say like, yeah, I know, I almost fell and died there. 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Yeah. Everyone was like, that was so. 48 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:47,520 Cool. So I was like, yeah, you know, I 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,400 just thought I'd show up a little bit. 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,200 Before I won the race. Before I won the. 51 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,120 Race. OK, so it's a total mistake that 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:00,080 did end up being impressive. Well, so that leads us into 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,480 today's episode, Our friend Tom wrote in our group chat and 54 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,640 asked about a watch on Corona 24 that had an aerodial. 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Good old aerodial. So this was a Rolex OP silver 41 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,800 millimeter and it had double indices at the 10 instead of the 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,480 nine. It was from 2021. 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,160 And his question to the group and for the podcast was like, 59 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,840 what do you think of this? Like would you buy an Aerodial? 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,680 And I first of all my first thought was like I have 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,560 literally never thought of this before an Aerodial. 62 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Wait, you haven't seen these? But I never thought about 63 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 whether I wanted one or, you know, like I never even. 64 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,160 You've never pondered. I've never pondered it and now I 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,080 wanted to deeply ponder it deeply. 66 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,160 Although my answer was like similar to other people, which 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,760 is that particular 1 does not look good, so no thank you. 68 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,240 That's it. Looks very off. 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:02,600 I think an aerodial can be cool. This is not cool. 70 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,840 OK, double indices at 10. It just looked. 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Off, yeah, but I mean that is the point of the error dial. 72 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,800 The not the point. So an error dial, as the name 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,360 very much describes, is a dial with an error on it. 74 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,240 But of course as collectors those errors sometimes become 75 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,560 features. So the like a bug becomes a 76 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,800 feature. We talk about that a lot in game 77 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:37,800 development and this, in this case, it's kind of, it makes it 78 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,360 more unique or special, but. It is unique because there's not 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,840 a lot of those out there. But mostly they become more 80 00:04:46,840 --> 00:04:52,320 unique and legendary if there's like a few of them, a lot of 81 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,840 times I think or it has to be a known error because that's the 82 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:57,360 part where when we're looking at this. 83 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,640 We have to drum up that known this. 84 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Rando Chrono 24 listing and they're like, hey, this is more 85 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,920 expensive because it's an error dial. 86 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,840 You're like, but who? So this is OK, This whole 87 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:14,520 concept is not new, no, right? And it's across many industries. 88 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,520 Yeah, yeah. When I was a kid now, and this 89 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,560 stuff happened from before my time. 90 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,280 So when I was a kid, I heard stories of things that were 91 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,040 before my time. I am not this old, right, But 92 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:31,280 that there were like, baseball cards that had been printed 93 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:32,320 wrong. Yeah. 94 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,360 It made them worth tons of money. 95 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,400 So much more. In my time, there'd be comic 96 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:43,040 books where there'd be error, yeah, cover prints or something 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,240 printed backwards somewhere within it or a page missing or 98 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,800 the, the these little errors that there wasn't an entire 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,640 massive batch of right. Had to be rare enough. 100 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,400 But it had to be known special. But it had to have, like, 101 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,360 generated enough controversy to be known those ended up being 102 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,480 worth lots of money. Yeah. 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Yeah. And that happens now in watches. 104 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Yeah, that happens in watches, I think. 105 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,800 I mean, it happens in any hobby where you're so into the 106 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,640 details, which obviously in watches we are, I really like. 107 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:21,360 So when I was looking this up, there's also a notable pair of 108 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,600 Air Jordan Ones. A customer in Italy received 109 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,360 them and the factory defect was an upside down Nike Swoosh logo. 110 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,760 This sold, they sold about six years ago for 900 times the 111 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,280 original retail price for $146,000. 112 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,520 I think The thing is so I 'cause I was like, OK, there's a lot of 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,640 things that are defective or have errors and then like they 114 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,160 don't become valuable. I was thinking about, you know, 115 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,960 the the Seikos with the bezel that doesn't align. 116 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,480 It's. Not just Seiko. 117 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,160 It's not just Seiko. But they're the ones that 118 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,000 everyone. They are the ones that everyone 119 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,880 picks on. But like there has to be a 120 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,280 desirability, a limited amount and then an error. 121 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:11,880 So that's why I feel that a lot of the watch errors that are 122 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,440 discussed are Rolex related or sometimes like the. 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Tech it has to feel like that there is a that the error is 124 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:27,800 also going like the error should surprise you like what What I've 125 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:33,040 seen reading many Reddit posts about these things is just 126 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,200 people in disbelief what this could even or. 127 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:41,800 Like could this even be true? Number one that but I feel 128 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,040 there. Let let's say it's a micro brand 129 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,520 that does this. If you'd be like, oh, they just 130 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,200 made a mistake, no big deal. Right. 131 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,640 Yeah, exactly. Just a mistake, no big deal it 132 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,200 or not even a micro brand, but just other brands. 133 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,840 But when you're at the level of Rolex, Patek a la Unzona the and 134 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,240 at their price point, then you are expecting perfection and 135 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,400 they are known for perfection. So then when there's a mistake, 136 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,480 you're like, what? Impossible or or. 137 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,440 Did someone just fake? This, yeah. 138 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Right, because that one where the double indices or the double 139 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,120 index is at 10 instead of nine. I'm like this could just be 140 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,760 fake. Yeah, that's the thing, It's 141 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,000 hard. That's what I mean about the 142 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,120 known. At some point there has to be a 143 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,320 really good confirmation of it. So it's some interesting ones. 144 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,000 We went through a lot of different articles. 145 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,520 There's a Rolex Air King 99 or 99. 146 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,520 Well, that one. Became famous because of Watch 147 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,559 Finder. And it's just that instead of 148 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,280 the three, because it has the 369, it's a nine instead of the. 149 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,640 3969. Which I'm like, you know what if 150 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,760 you're like area code was 969 in the US, you're like, I gotta 151 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,840 have it. My favorite number is 969 and. 152 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:05,120 I mean, it, it it also the that specific 9 in that specific font 153 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,400 looks very much like a three. There's like one tiny thing you 154 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,640 change and it becomes a three. Yeah. 155 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,720 Is it so? That's an interesting one. 156 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,960 Again, not sure I'd want it though. 157 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,440 I think that's the other part is like, do you like? 158 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,560 This one I'd be much more down with the 9691. 159 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:27,200 The the 9:00 but does the error like really speak to you? 160 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,240 I think that would be the important part of these. 161 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:33,880 So, OK, another kind of like it's not one. 162 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,600 It's been a series of them over the years, separated by about a 163 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,880 decade each, which is very. Suspicious Who has a conspiracy 164 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,000 theory? Daytona's without Daytona 165 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,240 printed on the dot. Oh, that's cool. 166 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,800 It's happened to multiple ones. There was one from like 1999, 167 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,360 there was 1 from 2000 something I I found one that they tried to 168 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,880 sell at Christie's last year but it looks like it didn't sell 169 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,400 which maybe they were asking too much. 170 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,640 They were, you know, whatever the minimum reserve was, might 171 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,600 have been too much. It did not sell. 172 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:17,760 But a few years back, one did sell at Anti Quorum in 2017. 173 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,280 So this was before watches became kind of like the way they 174 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,480 are now. And back then, it was hard to 175 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,560 get Rolex, Daytona's, but not the level it became, you know, 176 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:32,440 during the pandemic. This one sold for 43,000 Swiss 177 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,040 francs. No Daytona on the dial is a 178 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:45,160 reference 16520 from the year 2000 and it did clearly sell for 179 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,000 much more because of the No Daytona on it. 180 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Yeah, I mean, there was also an example of Patek Philippe that 181 00:10:54,040 --> 00:11:00,680 the the Aquanaut Travel Time Advanced Research 5650 G and it 182 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:06,160 just doesn't have an index like a 51st times. 183 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:14,920 Oh, like a. 51 minute one, Yeah. Wait, no, it's the 50. 4. 3. 184 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Yeah, 53. I had to look at this for so 185 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,480 long and I was just like, I'm not good. 186 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,480 At this. Puzzle. 187 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Pictures where What's different between the photos and They're 188 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,920 the same photo, but in this case you can see clearly the 53 index 189 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,240 is missing but. But then I'm also so like on the 190 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,280 the critical side of me, I'm like, could you imagine you have 191 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,880 this cool watch, but you're like, hey, hey, do you know, 192 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,400 like how many people do you run across that could actually 193 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:51,240 figure out what is like wrong? But that that's also fun in this 194 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,600 article on Sotheby's. And it was written by Stephen 195 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Pulverit. There was an awesome quote by a 196 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,280 friend of ours, Michael Walhagen, working out a South of 197 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,720 bees for the watches. And he said, I believe we can 198 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,040 all appreciate a human mistake. Ultimately, that's proof of 199 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,000 handcraft and what watchmaking is all about. 200 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,760 And then I really like, I was like, oh, that makes mistakes. 201 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,120 So like. Yeah, robots don't make 202 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,800 mistakes. No, exactly. 203 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,320 Well, they yeah take over the. Years. 204 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,880 But I guess that's not a mistake then. 205 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,640 That's just like they're programming. 206 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,720 But I found that like a really romantic way of thinking about 207 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,400 watches. It's kind of like I said, you're 208 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,720 like pouring over details. You're excited by all of these 209 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,440 things, and then to think like a human mistake is about that 210 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:39,840 handcraft. Yeah. 211 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,600 And so. You've been thinking about that 212 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,360 a lot like as you're making things. 213 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,080 Yes, I made it another chair this weekend. 214 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,880 We have two chairs now. I have two. 215 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,400 Chairs, Justin. Well, OK, there are other chairs 216 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,920 in the house, but there are two chairs that are, and this one I 217 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,200 chose pieces of wood that have more what would technically be 218 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,920 defects in them. And I love it because it's just 219 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,880 more character. And I think if you're going to 220 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,120 sell a chair like this, like at a big store, then you'll 221 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,960 probably want things that are a little bit less character for 222 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,840 for the most part. But since I'm making these for 223 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,040 home, then having those defects in it, when someone sees that, 224 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,320 it's like, OK, that's real wood. Like someone had to make this 225 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,080 it. Becomes special in its own. 226 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,840 Right, different so. Error becomes something. 227 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,800 But I also have very specific experience. 228 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,720 Of course you do though, because I mean, you're blue. 229 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,280 How? Defects get out into the world. 230 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,280 OK, there was a time. This is like 20 years ago, 231 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,400 right? I managed a literal department 232 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,840 of people whose job it was to stop defective products from 233 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,360 being sold to customers. OK, Like that was their entire 234 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,480 job. It was called the repackaging 235 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,040 department, right? That I ran for a while. 236 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,840 I I did other things there too, but I did oversaw the 237 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,520 repackaging department for a while for eyewear. 238 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,960 OK. For Oakley. 239 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,160 Oh yeah. Oakley Boy. 240 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,040 That was all I wanted to say. Oakley Boy. 241 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,080 So that that repackaging department is a not very fancy 242 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,000 name for the department that took in returns, fix them up to 243 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,640 be sold as new again because these weren't worn, but they may 244 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,160 have been tried on. They may have been handled in a 245 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,640 store. Mostly they were stores would 246 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,680 send product back that perhaps they had overstocked and didn't 247 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,360 sell. We repackaged them, send them 248 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,320 out to different stores. That's basically how it works, 249 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,080 right? So we had a bunch of people, 250 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,600 they'd inspect the products. A very, very difficult job. 251 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,960 I mean, looking at for tiny scratches, right, on lenses and 252 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,800 little all, all different kinds of things, mainly on the lenses 253 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,520 and frames. I mean, that's what glasses are, 254 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,120 lenses and frames. And then replace anything that's 255 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,560 bad. If a lens is bad, you pop it 256 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,920 out, pop in a new one, right? Inspect, move on, right? 257 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,960 Put it in a new box, new label, ship them out. 258 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,200 But OK, sometimes you find defects. 259 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,080 They could be scratches, but you could even find defects in 260 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,160 manufacturing. OK, that should have been. 261 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,360 That should have been caught the first time it was sold, right? 262 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,480 And we use the same standard that they did for quality 263 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,120 control. And quality control is the 264 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,320 control of quality. It is a filter that your 265 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,640 products go through before they go out to the market and you 266 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:33,160 have to kind of make like a decision on how for the price 267 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,880 point, for your reputation, for the brand, for the, the, the 268 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,720 profit you're looking for all of these things. 269 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,880 And then you're like, OK, well, here is our minimum acceptable 270 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 quality, right? So defects are going to get out 271 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,840 there, but what you get to choose how many defects are 272 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,520 acceptable to you. So like you had all these people 273 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,560 do all this work and then it would they, they do one big a 274 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,400 cart of glasses, which is like 200 glasses. 275 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Then that cart would get pushed over and a quality assurance 276 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,320 person would then check would then check some of them. 277 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,000 OK. Because yeah, you're trying to. 278 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,000 They're not well because that was the standard that we had 279 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,920 decided. So this person has already 280 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,760 checked every single one. Then that person will check a 281 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,000 percentage of them, I believe. I can't remember everything but 282 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,880 like this is 20 years ago, but like 20% OK and. 283 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Then you pick 20 because you said 20 years ago. 284 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,600 Maybe I did. It's possible, but they would 285 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,440 check, right? And if they would find a defect 286 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,720 out of the 20% that they checked, then they would send it 287 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,800 back and the whole thing would have to be gone through again. 288 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:40,720 Of course. See. 289 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,960 So like that we have chosen. But obviously if you're only 290 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,920 checking 20%, that means. They're still pretty. 291 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Sure, defects are. And that person's also just a 292 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,640 human, and they could make mistakes. 293 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,960 Yeah. So like, obviously you just have 294 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,160 to choose as a business. What level of mistakes? 295 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,400 It's just a filter and you get to choose how dense that filter 296 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,359 is. With a super dense filter less 297 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,240 gets like the output is much slower which makes it more 298 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,800 expensive. So you could design A process 299 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,319 that really allows like almost 0 defects to get out there, but it 300 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:20,960 just would cost even more money and no one, I mean who knows, 301 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,640 maybe some of them are attempting that, but obviously 302 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,880 they haven't perfected it yet because defects still get out 303 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,000 there. But you said every decade or so 304 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,640 a Rolex Daytona get. Well, OK. 305 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,920 Oh yeah. I said there's a. 306 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,760 Weird version. Wouldn't it be fun if like they, 307 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,320 they actually had a perfect quality control process, but 308 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:46,040 they just every once in a while they're like, we're gonna. 309 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:49,880 Take off that Daytona logo. Put one of these little weirdos 310 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,680 out there and see how it goes now. 311 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,320 But The thing is, you actually have to do. 312 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,080 It's not like you can do one. No, because you need. 313 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,360 Because not all of them will be detected. 314 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,400 No. Some will just ship to an AD and 315 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,000 then be sold to a customer who will customer just wear it every 316 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,960 day for the rest of their life. Never will notice that something 317 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,200 is weird about. It until one of us watch nerds 318 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,360 is like, hey, did you notice? Excuse me? 319 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,160 I like your watch, man. Oh, did you notice? 320 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,320 It's defective? Yeah. 321 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,560 What a cool error. Yeah. 322 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Yeah, highly unlikely on most errors. 323 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,720 And then it would just go in for service. 324 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,640 And then in service, it would probably be caught and then 325 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,160 replaced. And so, so you'd have to put out 326 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,720 quite a few, let's say 1A year, right? 327 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,040 And then once a decade you get to have this whole big story 328 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,960 with all this lore. And OK, this stuff interesting. 329 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm just saying if I owned one 330 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,760 of these businesses, I might, I might, I might find fun in that. 331 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,120 OK. I'm going to just keep thinking 332 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:53,600 of that sort of romantic side of that, you know, that these 333 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,560 mistakes can be special and they're it's proof unless 334 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,360 they're unattractive. Like yeah of. 335 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,440 Course no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 336 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,200 Yes. But it just makes me think about 337 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,600 how we all love watches. We pour over the most minute 338 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,840 details. What like during watches and 339 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,320 wonders? It's like the smallest thing on 340 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,080 a new release, a re release, a running change. 341 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,520 I mean, all I could talk about was the different color 342 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:26,760 variation of the bezel on the green Submariner, you know, so 343 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,880 it to me it's really fun because it means you care about there's 344 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,000 a lot. Yeah, you care about the 345 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,920 details. One thing I will say, because 346 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:38,560 the jobs of quality control people, they're difficult, Yes, 347 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,400 you're often looking at the same thing. 348 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,040 Over and over. Yeah, and over. 349 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,080 And that's all day. You clock in, you look. 350 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,360 At the sometimes it's harder to spot the mistakes. 351 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,280 And not just that, I look at some of these mistakes, like a 352 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:59,800 missing Daytona or 99, and you realize many people saw that 353 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,920 watch before it ever shipped. Exactly. 354 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,760 Yeah. And then multiple people saw it 355 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,440 before it got into the hands of a customer. 356 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,840 Right. But. 357 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,440 Everyone's looking for specific things and you get blindness to 358 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,280 what you're not looking for. So if you're the person who's 359 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,400 there to check and see if there's dust in there, you're 360 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,840 not also. Looking. 361 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,880 To see if the three is a nine, right? 362 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,040 And so you get blindness to those other things because you 363 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,480 are there to do a certain job and you have to focus on that. 364 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,000 When you zoom in, then as soon as you zoom out you see other 365 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,120 things because. We would see that in in. 366 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,240 Product design. For sure, but also with the 367 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,280 Oakley sunglasses, you'd have someone send something through 368 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,280 and then it's like, wait, this has completely the wrong Oakley 369 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,600 logo on the glasses. But they weren't looking for 370 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,280 that because that was such a rare defect that you just like 371 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,680 wouldn't even think to look for it as a defect. 372 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,400 So I, I can see how these things happen. 373 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,240 And I don't think it's like some huge failure. 374 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,200 I just think it's fun. Yeah. 375 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480 So our question gonna keep happening, Our question to you 376 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,360 is error dials true or false? No, I'm just gonna do. 377 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,520 True or false? I just like, are they all a lie? 378 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,440 No. What do you think about that? 379 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,560 Would you buy one? Yeah. 380 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,000 Yeah. So interesting. 381 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,360 Depends on the error. Yeah, I think I'm a no though. 382 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Bye everyone, bye.