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Welcome to this Watch LIVE. 
Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 

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And I'm Boo Booey and the Wong 
Watch asks a very relevant. 

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Question. 
Yes, I think so. 

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Is it stressful to come up with 
content for your daily podcast? 

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Is it no way? 
I actually think the vast 

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majority of the time it's no. 
Yes, that's true. 

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That's true. 
But there are days, yeah, where 

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we prepped nothing, Yes. 
And just, you know, life gets in

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the way. 
Yeah, you kind of wake up 

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feeling uncreative and you're 
like, oh, wait. 

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The the funniest thing is 
sometimes like right before we 

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go to bed, I'll be like, Boo, 
the topic for tomorrow is X like

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skeleton. 
Watches. 

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Yeah, you come up with a topic. 
And then in the morning, who 

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wakes me up? 
He's like, I don't remember, I 

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don't remember. 
All you said. 

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And I'm like, oh man, I need to 
like send this as a text 

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message, not just say it out 
loud 'cause you never remember. 

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No, no, I, I even when I, 
because, you know, obviously, 

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well, we don't take turns and 
like, it's an interesting way 

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that we come up with topics for 
this because in the beginning, 

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I'd say the first month, yeah, 
we were like way in advance. 

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Yeah. 
Coming up with things so far in 

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advance, like weeks in advance. 
We had planned out basically the

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first month of content. 
Yes, I had this little Apple 

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board. 
What is it called The? 

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Freeform. 
Freeform and I made like posted 

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notes everywhere. 
But I mean, we just populated it

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with so many ideas. 
That's the start of any project 

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though. 
You're like woohoo this is 

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great. 
In the beginning we were way 

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ahead. 
Then I think we fell into a week

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ahead type of thing where over 
the weekend we would figure it 

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out. 
And these days that still 

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happens. 
It's a little. 

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More loosey goose, but. 
It's a little more loosey 

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goosey. 
Most of the time we come up with

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the subject the night before and
sometimes the morning. 

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I tell you the subject and then 
you're like, what is it again? 

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I can't remember. 
OK. 

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It's not like every night you're
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next day. 
No, but occasionally you have 

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done that. 
And I never remember in the 

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morning what you said. 
And occasionally I'll tell you 

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what the subject is in the 
morning and I never remember 

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what I said. 
True, both things are true. 

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You don't remember either way. 
It's not that booze ignoring me,

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he just has no memory 
whatsoever. 

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Well, especially sleeping. 
Yeah. 

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Well, OK, so an interesting 
thing is like when we talk about

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this podcast to non watch 
people, they well, actually 

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sometimes even to watch people 
actually they're like what? 

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Actually, to everybody. 
Yeah, everyone is like, what 

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could you possibly talk about? 
And I think you had a really 

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great way with our friend 
recently. 

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You're like, well, what do you 
like? 

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Like what? 
What is a hobby? 

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And she was like, oh, I love 
horseback riding and horses. 

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And it's like, well, yeah, you 
can talk about. 

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I mean, you could also have a 
daily podcast about that, about,

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you know, the different saddles 
and OK, I don't know that much. 

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About, but you can imagine. 
Horse training. 

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That there's so much to talk 
about, kind of any subject if 

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you're really passionate. 
If you're really excited about 

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it too. 
And so I think that's the the 

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fun thing is like I keep 
learning more things on the 

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podcast. 
I have more I want to learn and 

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talk about, and also there's 
always things like popping up in

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the community new. 
Stuff's happening all the time. 

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And then, like today, we're 
going to answer 3 questions. 

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This was one of them. 
Directly from our listeners, 

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yes, this is the first one. 
And I, I love doing Q&A. 

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Yeah, like I love when people 
ask us questions. 

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Well, 'cause it also shows that 
there's a never ending supply of

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things we all want to talk about
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Yeah. 
And it's always have more and 

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more and more that we you want 
to talk about. 

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Yeah. 
And it's clear from the 

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questions and the people who ask
them sometimes, Like, it's not 

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like people are asking questions
they don't know the answer to. 

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Yeah. 
It's like, hey, instead of me 

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Googling this, will you just 
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Yeah, it's more about. 
That's what Mindy does to me and

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my sister. 
Well, yes, she does that. 

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I'm not saying no one does and 
she's. 

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And then I Google it and then I 
send it back, which is very 

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inefficient for me, but very 
efficient for her. 

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It is very efficient for her. 
She has a personal assistant. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
But she's to ask me the question

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I. 
Think what's nice is like we all

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like to hear what other people 
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Yeah, that is true. 
It helps us to maybe reformulate

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our thoughts or make our own 
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It's like you want more opinions
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Yeah. 
And for a lot of us, like we 

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want more watch friends to 
actually like bounce stuff off 

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of and say like, hey, what do 
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Is this a good idea or not? 
Should I buy this? 

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Everyone says yes. 
But so the OK, the final, final 

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answer to this question, I'm 
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stressful because anything can 
be sometimes stressful, but that

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doesn't make it overall. 
It's mostly fun. 

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It's mostly occasionally 
stressful. 

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Occasionally I'm like, what are 
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There are just times when you 
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That's life, and that's kind of 
the even collecting can 

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sometimes feel stressful, but 
the overall of any hobby should 

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feel happy and exciting. 
But to be clear, we do not feel 

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like we've run out. 
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And even our free form, which we
probably haven't looked at for 

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like a month, and it has a. 
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It still has a ton of ideas, but
the ones that are left are all 

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the ones that require way more 
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I have a lot of notebooks full 
of ideas actually scattered 

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around, but they're like one 
word and then later I'm like, 

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what? 
What did I mean? 

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Rotor What what what? 
What was the what was the 

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episode about? 
Rotor. 

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It's just like watch words 
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I'm not great at taking notes, 
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remembering things. 
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The problem is, I have ideas for
episodes fairly often, but I'm 

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not good at recording them in a 
way that I can recall it later. 

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No, Who also says I had a I had 
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that's very hard to disprove. 
Maybe it was a great idea, but 

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since it didn't actually turn 
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little. 
Sometimes what you remember is 

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the feeling. 
This is a great idea like, but 

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you don't remember the idea 
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You know what? 
I had the feeling of pure 

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brilliance. 
You're gonna have to trust me on

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that. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And it was probably true. 
OK. 

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Late Sunday asks should open 
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Oh, late Sunday isn't she is 
such an amazing photographer in 

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the and in the watch world. 
So she she does both. 

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Oh, OK. 
So open case backs. 

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I think honestly you have a 
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You don't want to put put 
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No, no, I actually I kind of 
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that open case backs are a nice 
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They're not unnecessary, but I 
know they're like hotly debated 

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it. 
Is hotly debated. 

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I don't think it should be. 
So what I often hear, especially

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from longer time collectors is 
you should only have an open 

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case back if you have decorated 
the movement in a way that's 

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worthy of an open case back. 
Yeah, right. 

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Where that line is drawn is 
gonna be different for different

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people. 
Which is in fact a very 

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privileged position. 
It is a. 

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Privileged position. 
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say is I remember my first open 
case back, right and it was not 

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a decorated movement, right? 
Well or machine finished 

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movement, right. 
Not at all. 

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What today I'd consider a 
beautiful, well decorated 

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movement. 
But at the time it was magic. 

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It was beautiful and I 
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And I wouldn't take that away 
from people and say somehow that

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if it's not this gorgeous, 
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then you shouldn't be able to 
see it. 

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Yes. 
I would love to see more 

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companies do what Nomos does, 
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customer the choice. 
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I I do like whenever there's a 
choice, because then you can 

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decide like, is this something I
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this something that doesn't 
really matter to me? 

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And to me, if it doesn't matter,
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see in this moment exactly. 
So someone's going to say, oh, 

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there's better reason. 
But right now as I think about 

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it, like one nice reason to not 
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an engraving. 
Yes, that's true. 

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Right. 
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engraving. 
People do engrave open case back

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watches, but you just have so 
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And so I could see people 
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you can engrave it. 
But other than that, let's say 

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you have an open case back on a 
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at all special. 
You're interested. 

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Guess what? 
Don't turn it over. 

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Don't turn it. 
Over what are you? 

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What are you flipping your? 
What I guess, I guess back to 

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the question, should they be 
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Maybe the option should be 
standard or you know. 

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Become more standard or more 
more. 

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Prevalent. 
More prevalent because I do 

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think I agree with you. 
It gets you into, I think it 

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really reminds you that it's 
mechanical, that you're looking 

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at something, you know, like 
when you have this watch. 

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And for a lot of people that can
become that first curiosity 

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point. 
So as someone who wants more 

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more more more people to get 
into watches, open case backs in

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more starter watches could be 
that beginning. 

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Yeah. 
So mainly I don't want to see 

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like open case backs be somehow 
price point regulated. 

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That. 
Cheaper watches with less 

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finished movements don't have 
them because they're nothing to 

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look at. 
They may be nothing to look at 

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for some people, but especially 
for a new watch person they 

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could be absolutely mesmerizing 
and get them into more 

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mechanical watches. 
But I also think I want more 

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open case backs on Grand Seiko 
courts. 

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They've done them on some 
limited editions, but standard 

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they have closed case backs and 
I want them to be open. 

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Yeah, my brother, he gave me the
1987 Swatch for my birthday and 

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the on the back it's kind of 
clear and you can see like the 

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battery and parts of the 
movement with it. 

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And I thought it was really 
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Like it made me really excited 
to look at something and be 

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like, oh, this is awesome. 
So more open case backs. 

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More open case backs. 
Less snobbery. 

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That's just in general. 
OK, watch Ecology asks. 

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OK Black Bay fans, 4158 or 54, 
which is the favorite and why is

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like the easiest question you've
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Yes, I have a very, I have a 
very clear favorite. 

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Well, I'll start by saying I did
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sell the BB58IN silver, the 925 
and I actually really liked a 

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size and I used to wear your BB 
58 before that. 

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It's a great size, but it has 
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I love the 54 so much. 
This is like I think the BB 54 

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is a perfect one watch 
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Like. 
Go anywhere, do anything but 

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also the the fact that it has 
the guilt on the dial gives you 

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that little bit of gold. 
So our friend Hannah Magpie 

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memoirs, she loves jewelry. 
She wears gold jewelry with it. 

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It doesn't look out of place. 
It doesn't go too far into a 

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tool watch. 
I've talked about this little 

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chameleon watch. 
Every person that I've seen wear

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it, it looks amazing on them in 
their individual style. 

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Like this watch just kind of 
blows my mind. 

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I love that the bezel is clean 
because again, it like takes it 

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away from being too too much. 
No guilt on the bezel. 

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Yeah, no guilt, no numbers, just
very chill. 

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I think all of that really just 
wins out against any other Black

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Bay in the series because it is 
perfect. 

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It's wonderful. 
Unisex. 

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I love it so much. 
OK. 

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All right, so. 
Tell us your wrong answer. 

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Wrong answers only. 
Boo. 

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Go ahead. 
I don't disagree that the BB 54 

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is a more universal one. 
Okay, okay, and suits more 

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people. 
That is just. 

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Period, Right. 
Yeah, because it definitely 

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works on smaller risks, better 
than obviously the 41, but even 

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the 58, but also on larger 
risks. 

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It just looks a little more. 
Different taste. 

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Which is cool. 
But it has that vintage look. 

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It used to be that no matter 
what size wrist you had, you 

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were wearing like a 36 or a 34mm
watch, right? 

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Or smaller. 
And so we can't say that those 

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watches don't work on bigger 
wrist. 

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It's that modern taste. 
Don't maybe not everyone likes 

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it on bigger wrist, however. 
Yeah, I it they work. 

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Oh, I should also say the the 
actual rubber strap from Tutor 

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Oh yeah is awesome. 
Yes, and that gives it a little 

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more versatility. 
Yeah, you even made the mistake 

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of buying it on the rubber strap
instead of the bracelet and then

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later having to pay a lot more 
to get the bracelet. 

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Yeah. 
Oops, don't recommend. 

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No, just buy things on bracelet.
But when you bought it for me, 

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you bought it on the bracelet, 
so I guess I just paid for a 

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really expensive rubber. 
I don't know. 

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OK, so having said that, I I'm 
still a BB58 like absolute fan. 

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OK, I love the BB 58. 
It was the original smaller 

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Black Bay. 
True, right? 

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And as you've said, it works 
great on your wrist. 

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Our friend Britt Pierce has an 
even smaller wrist than yours, 

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and her Black Bay 58 looks 
amazing on her. 

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Yes, but she has turned towards 
the she does. 

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For the 54 and where's the? 
54 but. 

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For three years, she wore that 
Black Bay 58 with no issues. 

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True. 
Gorgeous watch. 

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Works great even on small wrist.
I think, you know, obviously the

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54 opens up to even smaller 
wrist. 

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Yeah, but the 58 is still quite 
a versatile watch. 

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And what I like is that you have
so many options currently with 

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the 58. 
That's true. 

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Even. 
Even GMT now. 

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Right. 
Yeah, that's. 

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True. 
So many options. 

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So as a line, the Black Bay 58, 
you have the original black, 

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which also has the gilt accents.
You have the blue, which gets 

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rid of gilt entirely and looks 
like a much more modern watch 

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because it's just blue and a 
silvery color, right? 

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You have the new GMT, you also 
have it in gold, you have it in 

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silver, you have it in bronze. 
You have to have a lot of 

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options for that to really make 
people want it. 

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You know, what's really funny is
watch ecology just as like, 

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which is the favorite and why? 
And we're like, and this is now 

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a head to head competition. 
Okay, so I'm going to say I'm 

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going to go back and say the 
favorite Black Bay is the one 

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that you love wearing. 
Oh, the 41, the 58, just the. 54

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Love the 54. 
Oh yeah, but. 

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That's my. 
Favorite I know. 

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My favorites? 
The 58, however. 

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We didn't actually have to go 
head to head is what I'm saying.

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No, no, no. 
It's like immediately 

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competition. 
Yeah, but I will say the two new

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40 ones, right, The burgundy 
which came out last year, yes. 

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And then the they call it a 
monochrome I guess, which came 

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out this year. 
They have a new K shape and 

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size, right? 
Like they have really refined 

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it. 
So it's much less chunky than it

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used to be. 
I also like you cannot go wrong 

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with them and that Burgundy 
calls my name every once. 

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In a while. 
So you're saying I'm right the 

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best Black Bay is the one that 
you love wearing? 

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Yeah, I I can easily see someone
just owning all three. 

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And. 
That someone could be me. 

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OK, that's a very loaded. 
You're like, you're like, I 

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know. 
I definitely think this is 

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acceptable for anyone. 
Yeah, especially this anyone. 

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Oh. 
Especially this anyone? 

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OK, open case bags and black 
bays. 

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Tell us your thoughts. 
Bye everyone, bye.