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Bum, bum, bum bum bum bum bum 
bum bum bum bum, bum, bum bum. 

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Welcome to this watch life. 
Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 

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And I'm Boo booey and we're 
we're not in our studio. 

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No. 
I bet you can really tell from. 

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This we're recording on the 
road. 

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On the road well OK, we're 
recording from a it's not a 

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hotel. 
What would you? 

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No, it's called Turismo. 
Rural. 

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OK, A. 
Farm. 

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Yes, we're in a little 
farmhouse. 

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OK, We're not. 
In a farm hotel. 

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OK, no, there are adorable 
animals outside. 

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There are llamas, alpacas. 
Uh huh, uh huh. 

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Donkeys, horses, horses, baby 
horses, literal baby. 

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Look, I know they're called 
fools, but I don't care. 

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They're a baby horse to me. 
I think we've had this talk on 

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the podcast before. 
It's a baby horse. 

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There was also a baby goat. 
The baby horses were born a few 

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days before we got here, yeah. 
Yeah, that was pretty amazing. 

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OK, we should start off by Oh 
yeah, we've been on vacation. 

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We're on vacation. 
In Portugal we are still there. 

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We planned to record last week. 
You may have noticed that there 

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was a lack of episode. 
Maybe. 

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And look, we have excuses a lot,
but I feel that these excuses 

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are very strong, very strong 
excuses. 

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Much better than our typical 
excuse. 

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Yes. 
OK, so the excuses are #1 an 

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international emergency, Yes. 
Power outage. 

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So we were here in Portugal, 
Yeah, when the power was out in 

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Portugal, Spain and a small part
of France. 

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Yeah. 
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It was a big deal here 'cause 
the entire, almost the entire 

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country lost power. 
We were. 

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That's a big deal. 
We were in Lisbon, I was getting

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my hair cut, Which? 
Were mid haircut. 

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I was mid haircut, which luckily
I don't know why the guy was 

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using Clippers that were battery
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thank him very much because he 
he was mid like mid buzzing the 

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sides, the sides were getting 
clipped and then all the power 

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went out and he was so 
apologetic but kept going in the

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dark. 
And I did not care because I was

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like, at least we're still 
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Thank you. 
And you were at the hotel? 

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I was at the hotel. 
I was, I had just turned on the 

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water for a shower. 
And then I was like, oh, well, 

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that's annoying that the power 
has gone out in our hotel. 

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Yes. 
And I was like, well, that 

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shouldn't affect anything. 
However, immediately water 

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started losing pressure. 
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And for me, I was thinking it 
was just because I was in this 

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tiny little little, you know, 
hair cutting studio. 

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Yeah, like just tiny. 
And then all the neighbors were 

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coming over is like, oh, it's 
out for everyone. 

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So I was like, oh, this little 
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Yeah, yeah, in this little. 
It's hard to just quarter. 

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Well, OK, our power goes out 
fairly often at home. 

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We live on on a small dirt road 
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the power goes out and goes out 
for a few hours and then it 

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comes. 
And then it's always like a 

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little neighborhood chat and you
go, oh, your power is out. 

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Oh, my, yeah. 
OK, everybody, you know, you're 

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like, it wasn't just us. 
So I'm texting, I'm trying to 

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send a message to you to say 
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the hotel. 
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it's like everyone's outside. 
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oh, it's like the city of 
Lisbon, just like a like a big 

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city. 
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walking back, then it starts to 
be like all of Europe. 

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So you know that this is what 
this is what people are saying. 

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So it starts to get a little 
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like nothing's working. 
I was very close. 

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So I'm walking back, I meet you 
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had an open window like to the 
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So I just knocked on the window 
and you're like, the power is 

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out here. 
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all cell service itself wasn't 
working either. 

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So we couldn't message, couldn't
look things up. 

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Obviously some people were able 
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No, and I'm not saying I rely on
my phone completely and utterly,

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but I rely on my phone 
completely and utterly. 

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Well, this, this whole 
experience, I think, well, we've

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talked about it multiple Times 
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It was also a little wake up 
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complacent and reliant on the 
Internet for everything, for 

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sure. 
Direct access to the Internet, 

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you know, like we kind of live 
lives where we we need 

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information often, but we don't 
do a good job of saving it 

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offline. 
So we had to leave Lisbon that 

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day to go to our next hotel, 
which was over 300 kilometers 

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away. 
Should have been a 3 1/2 hour 

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drive up into the mountains and 
we had no way to navigate there 

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because Google Maps wasn't 
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Nothing was working. 
Nothing that we needed direct 

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access to the Internet was 
working. 

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So we were actually like, it 
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I'm going to say, because we 
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see if we could get some. 
Receptor. 

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And it really felt like the old 
commercials, like, can you hear 

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me now? 
Yeah, We're just holding the 

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phone. 
They're like Oh my map is is 10%

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downloaded. 
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maps on Google Maps, got in the 
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let's hit the road. 3 1/2 hour 
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It wasn't quite that simple. 
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First of all, at the hotel they 
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these the garage doors open. 
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feel. 
And you're like, wait, no, this 

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is there's no power in Portugal.
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So that started to feel weird. 
You don't have a lot of access 

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to, you know, the like any 
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So we start driving, and I would
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start being in traffic. 
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we need to get some gas. 
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oh, this feels like that part is
going to be. 

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Yeah. 
It did end up feeling tricky. 

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I for some reason in my brain, I
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going to have generators, which 
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But the main thing was because 
all power was out in the entire 

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country, payment systems were 
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So like you had to go to a place
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of the gas stations, but not all
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Then they still had to have gas 
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run on gas and all of the city 
and close to the city, they were

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out of gas. 
So we had gone to seven gas 

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stations and still had no gas. 
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We were, you know, it was 
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where we actually had to think 
like maybe we have to find, like

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we can't get to the we didn't. 
Have enough guests to get to our

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next destination? 
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place to stay without using the 
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hotel, which is a very 
interesting it it was a it was a

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weird day when we finally found 
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It was very exciting. 
It was, we did luckily have cash

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because we are like. 
Portugal is still a a partially.

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Yeah, and we're a, we're 
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So typically, honestly 
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Germany every other week has 
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actually using euro. 
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Mean, I would say having cash 
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like Stockholm had the goal of 
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they are accomplishing it. 
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been retired basically different
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Many places do not take care. 
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I mean, even when my mom came to
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2017, I remember her saying 
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I'll pay for this. 
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for anything in our hipster 
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It is card only. 
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We got the gas. 
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something for all of you to know
about Vu and I, we bought so 

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many snacks. 
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We would have survived the 
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Except we didn't, because we ate
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so stressed eaters. 
I promise. 

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We were half hour into the 
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OK, OK, here's the thing. 
This was the, the, you know, 

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Portugal and Spain both declared
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This was probably quite terrible
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However, for us, we were on 
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responsibilities. 
We just wanted to stay in a, a 

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place that felt nice that night.
And we had already booked and 

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paid for a hotel. 
So our biggest stress was can we

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make it to our hotel or do we 
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Local. 
That's a very privileged stress 

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during a national emergency 
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couldn't get home to their 
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transit was down. 
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Also, it took us 4 hours that 
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have gotten us to the mountains,
we went 5 kilometers and got out

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of the city. 
So like it, it was not good for 

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a lot of people, but for us it 
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we were slightly stressed 
because we're in a country that 

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we haven't spent much time in 
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Why did we come to Portugal? 
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then that felt like 3 days. 
So take that for the first 

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excuse. 
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terrible food. 
Poisoning. 

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I was going to save this 
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I wasn't going to go from 
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Well, I'm just saying these are 
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podcast. 
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any detail, but essentially we 
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hotel then making it to our next
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Which is where we are now in the
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And then? 
On the coast, the. 

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Day we arrived, everything went 
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of, let's just call it, 
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So I will say we don't know how 
to vacation, but that in summary

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that is why we did not podcast 
last week and I hope you accept 

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those reasons those. 
Are those yeah reasons we won't 

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call? 
Them OK, but happy now is that 

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we're in Portugal. 
Exactly, I love Portugal. 

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So you love Portugal and it was 
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Yes, And we put those two things
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trip. 
Yes, I've been to Portugal 

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twice, once to list and once on 
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And I've never been. 
You've never been. 

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And I just, I don't. 
There's something about Portugal

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I just absolutely love. 
It's one of my favorite places. 

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And we wanted to kind of like do
to call it an experiment sounds 

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so silly, but I, I feel like 
we're in a safe space. 

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We're talking to other watch 
enthusiasts right now, so maybe 

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they'll understand what we mean.
The big experiment was can we 

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each just choose one watch and 
bring one watch on this trip and

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this? 
Was your experiment and I wanted

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no part of it leading up to the 
trip. 

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That is true. 
You did not commit to it it. 

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Was just something else that 
happened that forced me into. 

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My idea was I would reach out to
Ken at Deluxe and say, hey, I'm 

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getting this new watch which was
going to arrive Friday before we

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left Saturday, and I would like 
to bring only this watch on this

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trip. 
And I would like to bring 

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multiple strap options. 
And instead of having multiple 

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watch options, just have strap 
options. 

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It goes against kind of 
everything that I've known for 

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the past 1314 years when I 
started like collecting. 

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I'm air quoting collecting 
because let's not get into that.

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But like once I had multiple 
watches that I always wanted to 

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have with me. 
I always traveled with multiple 

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watches. 
This is 2 week trip that we're 

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now right at the end of that we 
did not have multiple watches, 

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or at least I didn't. 
Well, neither did you, but your 

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your plan was different. 
But I OK, so if we if we back 

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up. 
Oh, is that your backup sound? 

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If we go back in time, so my 
watch collecting really started 

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during the pandemic. 
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pandemic, when I was travelling 
all the time for work, I 

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travelled with one watch only, 
typically my Rolex date just on 

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the Oyster bracelet. 
Like I, that was my exclusive 

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travel watch. 
So I, I went all around the 

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world with that one watch. 
Then pandemic happens, there's 

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no travelling and I get super 
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new watches. 
So then when things started 

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opening up after COVID and 
people started traveling a 

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little more, I would say I like 
overcorrected as an enthusiast 

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because I wanted to bring all 
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destination. 
So at the height of my watch 

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travelling, especially when I 
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that was quite easy because it 
was a, you know, in a safe 

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place, single destination. 
But then I was bringing a watch 

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roll with three watches plus a 
watch on my wrist. 

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I over time it's been paired 
down, down, down. 

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typically have a watch. 
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because what I realize is 
especially when I'm staying in 

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hotels, like I don't want to 
leave a bunch of watches in the 

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room. 
Have to think about it. 

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Oh, where is that watch? 
Where is it going to be? 

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Even Geneva this year I only 
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compared to last year, I think I
had two or three. 

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So I am recovering from needing 
all the watches. 

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I, I mean, I did bring all the 
clothes on this vacation. 

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Vu told me that if I didn't wear
them all, he was going to. 

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This is a quote, leave me here 
in Portugal. 

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So I am wearing like a suit 
jacket that I brought for some 

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reason. 
Plus, a little like now, the 

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past few days I've been wearing 
basically the weirdest outfits 

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in the evenings when we're at 
the hotel just to prove I'm 

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wearing everything. 
In my defense, what I actually 

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said is if you want me to carry 
this suitcase around because you

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wanted to check a bag, true, 
true, true. 

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And you packed it so heavy and I
said, and you said you don't 

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have to worry about it. 
It's my suitcase. 

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So I said I know that I will 
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you will. 
So if you want me to help you 

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with this suitcase, you have to 
wear these things. 

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This is my life, so you're 
everyone understands that. 

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I, I feel like that's totally 
fair. 

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I was like, I'm totally willing 
to carry this suitcase if you're

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willing to wear all the things 
you bring. 

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OK, but, but all of that to say,
previously I was my I was 

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picking a lot of watches to 
travel with. 

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So the choices didn't, the 
choices weren't that important 

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because I typically had like a 
maybe dressier watch and then a 

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bunch of sports watches. 
And I yeah, yeah, not even I 

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typically don't travel with my 
Tank because it has too much 

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sentimentality to me. 
You had travelled with a few 

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times, but. 
Shows we do and that kind of 

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stuff. 
Yeah, I got pictures. 

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I got receipts. 
I think he's wrong. 

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We will double check. 
This little picture see you at 

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the next episode. 
And so for this trip, I had been

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thinking I would bring, you 
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it's a two week trip and then 
that gives me some versatility. 

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But you had your plan, so we'll 
go with your plan first. 

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Yeah, no, my plan was, I mean, 
it's basically one watch, 

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multiple strap options, 
different colors and different 

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styles for the different things 
we're going to do. 

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This vacation was meant to be 
part relaxation, part adventure,

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part beach, part, you know, 
like, so it's we had all these 

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different things we want to do 
and instead of bringing multiple

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watches for those things, I 
wanted one watch that would fit 

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all of those things. 
And then kind of have a little 

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kit of these deluxe watch straps
and all of them have quick 

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release, right? 
So I can just pop them on, pop 

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them off. 
And I have changed straps like 2

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to three times a day, which is 
abnormal for me. 

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I because I don't usually travel
with many straps. 

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I usually travel with many 
watches. 

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I'll choose the strap for each 
watch or the bracelet or 

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whatever I'm going to put on it 
and then that's it. 

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But on this trip it was like no 
one watch head and then many 

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strap options. 
And I thought that was far too 

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extreme to do so. 
Instead I ended up with one 

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watch head and one strap only. 
OK, so the the whole point of 

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this episode is to actually talk
about this plan and the success 

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or not success of it. 
And also both watches that we 

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wore are NWS new watches. 
So we wanted to also talk about 

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our new watches. 
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thought ended up being cool 
about bringing multiple straps 

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and it this ties into something 
I said earlier is that I 

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realized that our preparedness 
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inadequate. 
This trip taught us that on two 

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big occasions, 1 was the 
national emergency where we 

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hadn't downloaded enough things 
and I just didn't feel ready for

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everything. 
And then and the afterwards we 

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got really sick. 
And then I realized like we 

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didn't even bring like a first 
aid kit or like the basic 

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medicines that I used to travel 
with all of these things. 

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But COVID did disrupted my 
thoughts on having a travel kit 

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and all of that. 
And I just. 

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I don't even know how to travel 
anymore. 

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I haven't put it back together, 
but now that is not to say I 

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brought nothing on this trip. 
I did bring. 

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It is Boo, after all. 
I did bring a few things and 

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they have come in quite handy. 
So one of the things I brought 

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is my small Rovi Vaughn A 80. 
Did you hear the donkey was just

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spraying? 
I didn't even hear it myself. 

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OK, but I so the I brought the 
Robyvon A8 and that flashlight 

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came in super handy when we were
in a blackout, both when we were

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leaving the hotel because inside
the hotel it was super dark, but

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also when we arrived at our 
mountain hotel where there there

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was no power. 
So that was really cool. 

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I also usually travel within 
Europe at least with a tiny 

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Victorinox like a tiny Swiss 
army knife. 

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But lately I've been taking the 
jet setter which doesn't have a 

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blade on it. 
Now in within the EU you are 

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technically allowed to travel 
with blades under 6 centimeters,

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but you're also not allowed to 
travel with a weapon, so it it 

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is up to the agents to decide. 
Whether or. 

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Not what you have is a weapon 
and I think that's a good thing.

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But I also bring this Victorinox
Swiss card light and it has a 

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tiny blade on it. 
It's like a 2cm blade, like it's

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a very small but mainly what I 
care about is the scissors and 

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then does it have a tiny? 
Magnifying glass on it, it does 

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also. 
Because mainly you'd use that 

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with the tweezers to be able to 
like let's say you, you get a 

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splinter, you can wait, I can 
use it. 

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As a loop, well, you can use. 
It as a loop and look more 

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closely at your watch yes you 
can has a pen on it I mean and 

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it it's like a credit card it 
fits in your wallet so I love 

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that one that one's cool. 
And it's fairly. 

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Inexpensive it's like €30.00 so 
if it ever does get confiscated 

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I will replace it. 
But I've brought it probably on 

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maybe 10 plane trips without it 
being an issue. 

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So I, I think that most agents 
don't even it's never even 

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they've never even pulled it out
to look at it. 

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They're just like, it just goes 
through it sits in my wallet no 

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problem. 
And then the other kind of EDC 

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ish thing that I brought is 
everyday. 

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Carry for those of you who don't
know my. 

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It's it's it's. 
The what? 

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It's the way that it's the way 
that people have now branded, 

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you know what moms have been 
doing forever, which is just a 

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purse full of supplies. 
The original. 

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The original EDC errs are moms. 
I love to say that because when 

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I was younger or every I've ever
known has always had a big bag 

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with them, at least one, maybe 
multiple, and it has everything 

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they need because they've got 
these kids. 

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Yeah, right. 
And so, you know, we have now 

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adopted that without the kids 
and just have the EDC part. 

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Well, no, no. 
No, you, you have because I have

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like as much as I've packed, I 
have very little that could 

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support us in any sort of crisis
situation. 

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I did bring some medicine, yeah,
but you always have a. 

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Pad and you always have a pen 
and you always say so you do 

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have EDC, you just they're just 
not. 

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Used brand to life. 
No, they're not useful to a 

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crisis. 
That's what I was saying. 

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You had the more crisis A. 
Little bit and I so I have these

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Knifex pliers, they're the cobra
excess that everyone loved for a

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while. 
I keep them in my wallet and 

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I've used them twice on this 
trip, once because our license 

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plate on our rental was falling 
off and the other time to fix 

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the table that we're recording 
on right now. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
So I'd say success on those 

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things. 
OK, it's time. 

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What is your new watch alert? 
What is your new watch? 

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Oh, what? 
Is my new and then wait, have I 

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not even said no we haven't. 
Said it. 

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Oh, OK. 
Yeah. 

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All right, building. 
Suspense. 

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You must keep listening if you 
want to know. 

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Are you intrigued? 
Listener, my new watch is the 

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Hobbering to Irwin pilot. 
OK, if you don't know anything 

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about hovering, which I didn't a
few years ago, I've only been 

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looking at them for maybe two or
three years. 

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It's a husband and wife team, 
Maria and Richard Hobering, 

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hence the name Hobering 2, which
I think is a really cool name. 

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I like Maria came up with it. 
They were, you know, trying to 

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figure out the name. 
But like Maria and Richard 

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putting all that into a name 
seems like a lot. 

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Hovering 2. 
It looks like hovering squared 

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the way that it's written, but 
they say hovering 2 I really 

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love. 
That because it is when you have

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the one name, especially in 
watches, then everyone would 

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only assume that it is the 
watchmaker. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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And then you would in in watches
you would then assume it is the 

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man. 
Now they have the name have. 

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Worked in watches for a long 
time and I think they met while 

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both working at Lange, but I 
believe that Richard is the main

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watchmaker and Maria is the main
business person in their 

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interviews. 
That's what it sounds like. 

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That doesn't mean that Maria 
isn't at all a watchmaker. 

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I don't know if she is because I
saw an image where she was doing

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watchmaking. 
So I I don't know. 

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I I haven't spoken to them in 
enough detail to know all the 

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details of it. 
But I do like, part of what I 

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love about Hovering 2 is that 
kind of story and their brand, 

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this story of the two of them. 
They worked at Lange together. 

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I believe that's where they met.
But also, Richard worked at IWC.

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He is kind of famous for 
developing the IWC doppel 

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chronograph. 
Like that was a really big deal 

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during his tenure. 
This is 30 years ago at IWC, and

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they founded Harboring 2 in 
2004. 

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So it's been around for 26 
years. 

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Yeah, right. 
Wait, no, 21 years. 

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I was like that. 
Math Whoops 20. 

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One years and like I, I've 
learned a lot about them and 

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what they're about by watching 
this one talk. 

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It's on YouTube, it's on the 
Horological Society of New 

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York's YouTube channel and they,
they did a talk there maybe 5 or

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6 years ago really great talk 
talks about how they develop 

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their own movements. 
It took time and finding the 

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right partners and suppliers and
they are like they talk about 

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their partners as though they 
are part of the same company 

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like you. 
Know they. 

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Make in house movements but they
have partners and suppliers who 

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help supply those parts. 
But those partners aren't making

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the movements. 
They are making parts and then 

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they are doing assembly and but 
that also. 

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Is more important, I think like 
outside of the Swiss industry. 

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And so we see it a lot in in 
German watchmaking and Japanese 

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watchmaking. 
And they're they're making 

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watches in Austria, in Austria. 
And so. 

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You know, you do have this 
different sort of community feel

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because you know, that you're 
the underdogs, British 

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watchmaking, you know, like 
you're like, we're not Swiss and

450
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,320
we're proud of that. 
And how do we build on it and 

451
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,960
build more, you know, 
techniques? 

452
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,120
And especially because I was 
actually passively listening to 

453
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,560
the the talk as you were 
actively, as you were actively 

454
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,080
watching it. 
And it was really interesting to

455
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,920
hear how they're trying to 
develop things. 

456
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,440
And then the other, you know, 
small watchmakers can also use. 

457
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,680
And I think that is a maybe a 
different spirit than you see in

458
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,720
some of the more. 
OK, we'll see if you can hear a 

459
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,960
donkey. 
That's the donkey break. 

460
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,840
It does it about once an hour. 
I love it. 

461
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,480
I love the donkey like. 
Would you like to be on our 

462
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,520
podcast? 
It's called this watch live so 

463
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,520
their. 
Suppliers and partners are 

464
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,920
mostly within Austria, of 
course, Germany and Switzerland.

465
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,640
And you know, these are three 
countries that are all right 

466
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,320
next to each other. 
So when they show a map of all 

467
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,960
of their partners, it is really 
nice to see it's it's not local.

468
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Local in the way that sometimes 
you think of local when you 

469
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,640
think of local food, usually 
you're thinking with maybe 100 

470
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,360
kilometer radius, but you also. 
Need a specialization? 

471
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,040
Exactly. 
It's different when you're 

472
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,480
talking about manufacturing. 
And so then that local becomes a

473
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,800
little bit bigger, but still for
a watch company quite small 

474
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,840
right in, in, in terms of 
distance. 

475
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:51,920
One of their signature 
conference complications is the 

476
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,880
deadbeat seconds. 
OK. 

477
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,320
Which has. 
Please. 

478
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,040
Explain this, because I did not 
know what this was. 

479
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, OK. 

480
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,200
So deadbeat seconds is also 
sometimes referred to as jumping

481
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,080
seconds and essentially jumping.
Stuff now. 

482
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,640
Are you in your jumping era? 
I don't know. 

483
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,400
I have jump. 
Hour jump seconds, No jump 

484
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,400
minutes. 
OK. 

485
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,360
That's my next. 
Complication. 

486
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,600
So the the the easiest way to 
say is like if you've seen a 

487
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,320
quartz watch, then you know what
jumping seconds looks like. 

488
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,120
It moves once per second. 
So instead of, you know, 

489
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:32,400
depending on the the beat rate 
of a movement, it'll go any 

490
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,560
anywhere between as low as like 
4 all the way up to 10 or even 

491
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,200
more times per second. 
And so you see that when you 

492
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,360
zoom in as these little, tiny 
little as the second hand moves 

493
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,240
around, which is what Spring 
Drive is totally different from 

494
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:54,840
Spring Dr. does not stop once 
per 8 seconds or one 1/8 wait 

495
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,360
one eighth seconds per time. 
And this is the. 

496
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,840
First time you're massing? 
Really instead? 

497
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,200
It's just a smooth sweep. 
And then you have quartz, which 

498
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840
once per second it just goes 
tick there. 

499
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Now there are, you know, 
differences like Grand Seiko, 

500
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,320
it's kind of two ticks. 
But anyway, it it looks like one

501
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,200
tick per second and that's what 
this watch does. 

502
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,240
So when you look at it, it's 
very funny, I think to buy a 

503
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,200
very nice, a not inexpensive 
watch beautifully. 

504
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,160
Decorated and and everything is 
amazing about it. 

505
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,040
And then it ticks like quartz 
and I kind of love that food 

506
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,600
the. 
Contrary so like. 

507
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,960
I first became interested in 
this complication when we went 

508
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:45,680
to visit JLC Jeje Lacoute in 
2015 and they had just released 

509
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,480
their Geophysic True second. 
They did decided not to call it 

510
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,920
the Deadbeats second. 
They call it second. 

511
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,120
In second, yeah, Nice branding. 
It's good branding, yeah. 

512
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,440
And so that watch had come out 
in like 2015 Will Halbering to 

513
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,000
release their deadbeat seconds 
movement in 2007. 

514
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240
So they've been doing this for a
really long time. 

515
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,200
Wow, I didn't realize that. 
They're not the. 

516
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,040
First ever deadbeat seconds, but
I do believe I read somewhere 

517
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,080
and so. 
But that. 

518
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,560
They were the first essentially 
like a scale manufacturer of 

519
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,480
deadbeat seconds movement and 
and obviously their scale is 

520
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,480
also. 
Quite a reasonable. 

521
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,240
Scale, yeah. 
And this model, the Irwin pilot.

522
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:38,400
So the Irwin is their deadbeat 
seconds line and the pilot is 

523
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,920
essentially a pilot's watch in 
design. 

524
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,000
In the look of it, the dial. 
This was released in 2020, which

525
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,320
I also thought was interesting 
because I've had multiple people

526
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,200
ask me like, oh, that's like the
Patek, the 5226G and actually 

527
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,440
actually the this watch, you 
didn't see it. 

528
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,600
Babu kind of pushed up his 
glasses and he said Now listen 

529
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,040
here, you. 
Listen. 

530
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,480
This one was. 
Released in 2020 the Patek was 

531
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,360
released it's in 2022. 
So I I you know, not that 

532
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,440
there's a lot this also this 
design has been around forever 

533
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,400
like this design Harkins back to
the flieger, you know pilots 

534
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,040
watches of old. 
So it's, but it's a beautiful 

535
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,480
dial. 
It's black, it's textured. 

536
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480
It looks kind of like a 
leatherette covering on the 

537
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,320
camera, right, but on a smaller 
scale. 

538
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,920
And then the only text on the 
dial besides the numerals, the 

539
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,560
Arabic numerals is hovering 2 
and Austria, right like up at 

540
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,080
12:00. 
I have to. 

541
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320
Say I love that. 
Could we? 

542
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Could we? 
Could we have more? 

543
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,120
Have more watches? 
Where people get rid of all the 

544
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720
stuff. 
I I prefer the look, honestly, 

545
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,480
of just a logo. 
Yeah, that, that's my 

546
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120
preference. 
Yeah, I get. 

547
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,800
It sometimes it balances out a 
dial no I. 

548
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,800
I don't need to. 
See that it's 200m water 

549
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,520
resistance on the dial. 
Or that it's. 

550
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,000
Automatic. 
But. 

551
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,880
However automatic, if it's a 
vintage inspired watch, 

552
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,160
automatic might make sense 
because back in the day that was

553
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160
like a big feature. 
You know. 

554
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,280
You'd still didn't need it on 
the dial, right? 

555
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,800
It reminds me of when you buy 
ATV and there's the stickers in 

556
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520
the corner that have all the 
features. 

557
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,320
And like in my dad's Asian 
community in Southern 

558
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,120
California, a lot of people 
would still just leave those 

559
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,680
stickers on. 
And it always annoyed me. 

560
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000
You couldn't see in the corner, 
but they're like there's the 

561
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,240
specs you want to. 
Know you want to know what this 

562
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120
what this does exactly my. 
Dad's Vietnamese friends. 

563
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,360
So it's got cathedral hands, 
it's got Arabic numerals, 

564
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,280
they're printed. 
It's just a railroad minute 

565
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,640
track. 
I like the radium colored hand 

566
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,880
hands and the dots at the hours.
I just I really love it. 

567
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,520
It's a pilots watch, but I I 
guess technically the way I've 

568
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,840
been thinking about it and even 
using it is more like a field 

569
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080
watch. 
There's not terrible differences

570
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,680
between pilots watches and field
watches. 

571
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,800
They both kind of do the same 
thing. 

572
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,080
I mean, pilots watches, maybe 
the crown will be a little 

573
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,720
bigger so you can utilize gloves
and, and still operate the 

574
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,440
crown. 
And you know, there are a few 

575
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,280
differences on on some, but on 
these more basic ones where 

576
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,680
there's only the numeral, the 
our numerals, then field watch, 

577
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,640
pilot watch, they do the same 
thing. 

578
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,680
They tell the time and they're 
made to be, you know, like tool 

579
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,800
watches. 
I, I love the size and the feel 

580
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,560
of the watch. 
The case is 38.5mm, which for me

581
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,680
is a great case size. 
It's only 9mm thick and that 

582
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,440
makes it just fit. 
Yeah, it's beautiful. 

583
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,520
Well, on the wrist. 
I love the thinness of it, but 

584
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,920
not it's not overly thin. 
It doesn't feel dressy. 

585
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,480
It's just like this great 
balance at 9mm and about 47 lug 

586
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,120
to lug. 
I did measure it, but I don't 

587
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,680
remember. 
I don't have the measurements 

588
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,320
from home and the whole case is 
brushed. 

589
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,000
So overall it's just got this 
like what you'd expect out of a 

590
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,840
pilots watch, except for the 
ticking seconds, which is white.

591
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,000
It's really beautiful. 
Yeah, it has that. 

592
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Look okay. 
So that's that's your new watch,

593
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,360
that is. 
The the new watch I, I should 

594
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,120
say it also has an open case 
back and so the the in house 

595
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,200
movement totally visible. 
It's a very, very interesting 

596
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,720
architecture and how they've 
made it. 

597
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,960
I need to share pictures of this
online, but it's like a really 

598
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400
beautifully decorated movement 
for the price. 

599
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Has some polished bevels, really
nice details in it, but also the

600
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,160
the I think the architecture has
this central bridge with three 

601
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,840
prongs that I don't know how to 
describe perfectly, but that's 

602
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,080
where the seconds ticking 
mechanism is. 

603
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,680
And it's just yeah, I, I, I 
really think that's cool. 

604
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Another thing that I thought was
really cool is that they ship it

605
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,800
with your first service kit. 
So what? 

606
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,720
What they ship. 
It with the all the gaskets you 

607
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,160
need for its first service. 
Oh, that's. 

608
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Cool. 
Yeah, so. 

609
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,720
That you don't have to send it 
back to them necessarily. 

610
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,720
I mean, you know, for, OK, we 
live in Europe, so maybe it's a 

611
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,560
little easier. 
But like, let's say you were 

612
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,480
buying one of these watches in 
the US or in Vietnam or 

613
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,880
somewhere else. 
Like then you could technically 

614
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,120
just do its first service 
locally, but have the exact 

615
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,080
gaskets and everything that you 
need in order to maintain the 

616
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,280
water resistance and put it all 
back together. 

617
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,680
O and the packaging was a a wood
box like I I just yeah, I I've 

618
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,600
loved everything about this 
experience. 

619
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,160
Also, I bought it from Infinity.
You know, you can't find these 

620
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,080
everywhere There, there, there 
are a DS out there, but the 

621
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,160
stock has been tough to find. 
So I found one at Infinity 

622
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,640
watches in the Czech Republic. 
They, they have a small shop in 

623
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Prague which we have to go and 
visit and they were super 

624
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,480
helpful. 
They held it for me for a little

625
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,440
while, like it was an awesome 
experience with them as well, 

626
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,639
but then I finally got the watch
right before we left. 

627
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,320
Yes, so. 
You got the watch. 

628
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,840
Actually when I was, I went on a
trip to Berlin for work and that

629
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,560
was during my birthday week and 
you had decided you would save 

630
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520
one of my birthday presents till
we got back. 

631
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,840
You got this watch and then I 
was getting back Friday 

632
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,159
afternoon. 
We were leaving Saturday morning

633
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,199
to go support. 
Present. 

634
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,159
Yes. 
But you didn't know what it was.

635
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:33,520
No. 
And so my present from you was 

636
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:39,480
the Korano Tokyo 34mm star dial.
Which I had. 

637
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:45,920
Actually seen in Geneva when we 
visited HCI and got to meet 

638
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,440
again Hajimya Sooka, who I just 
personally love. 

639
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,800
I think he's just delightful. 
We're never speaking English 

640
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,480
together. 
But he just, I don't know. 

641
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,440
He has that presence and 
humility that you can just feel 

642
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,600
through, like how he interacts 
with people. 

643
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:04,960
And I just find it so lovely. 
And I saw it and tried it on and

644
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,880
I was like, oh, man, I actually 
missed buying it. 

645
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,040
And you were like, well, would 
you have bought it? 

646
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,560
Like, it's really cool. 
And I was like, I, yeah, maybe I

647
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,960
would. 
No, I don't think I would have. 

648
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:19,960
You know, I don't, I don't think
I would have bought it when you 

649
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,280
said that part. 
That was, you know, as as 

650
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,040
someone who got you one of these
and in that moment, the the 

651
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,480
thing that made me happy was you
loved it. 

652
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,200
The thing that made me not happy
is then you were like, yeah, but

653
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,040
you know, I don't think I would 
have ordered it, but. 

654
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,000
OK, so I'll start with you. 
I bought you a Carano Yeah in 

655
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,800
20/22/2020. 
Two, I thought that. 

656
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,840
The I thought that it came out 
in 2021, The Toki. 

657
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,760
Maybe it was announced in it was
announced. 

658
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,960
In 2021, because I got it for 
your birthday. 

659
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,720
Yeah. 
And that one was the toki. 

660
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,360
It was based on a crested Ibis, 
The color. 

661
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,520
It was really beautiful. 
You fell in love with it. 

662
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:09,160
For me, I haven't been a Carano.
The fan is the wrong word 

663
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,000
because I I think I think the 
brand is super cool. 

664
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,320
I'm a fan of the brand. 
Because I. 

665
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:21,120
Actually, to me, I don't tend 
Art Deco in anything that I own 

666
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,760
or any style, you know, like 
that's not my style choices. 

667
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,680
So for me, because of the 
pairing that Jamie Osio has in 

668
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,320
Corona, one of the things is Art
Deco opulence with Japanese 

669
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,160
minimalism and how you mesh that
together. 

670
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,800
And so when I opened this watch,
luckily, because I had seen it 

671
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,280
already and tried it on and 
actually had looked back at some

672
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,440
photos of it and thought, wow, 
that is really cool. 

673
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,800
The stars are really cool. 
I was super excited when you 

674
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,680
gave it to me. 
And I just decided, you know, 

675
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,120
the, the, the water here off the
coast of Portugal is very cold. 

676
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,320
It's very unlikely that I'm 
doing a lot of swimming, even 

677
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,760
though I could swim in it if I 
wanted to. 

678
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:11,960
And I just felt that it was, 
it's so beautiful and different 

679
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,680
from anything I own. 
And sometimes I even though I 

680
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,920
have like wild color watches, I 
think getting the buying my 

681
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,120
first show part skeleton, that 
was the first time I kind of 

682
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,360
branched out in a way of like 
something that was, you know, 

683
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,720
outside of the Lydia Winters 
watches that people would think 

684
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,960
of with me, which was like 
sports watches. 

685
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,400
Yeah, Rolex. 
Yeah, Rolex sports classes. 

686
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,080
I mean, if you look at your 
photos, yeah. 

687
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,960
But that was also what I 
typically wear day-to-day a lot 

688
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,120
of times for years, yeah. 
And. 

689
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,720
So with this watch, it's super 
different. 

690
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,880
It's a sector dial, which I 
don't have one of. 

691
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,000
It has blued like almost 
needlepoint hands. 

692
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Is that what they call them 
syringe hands? 

693
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Yeah, I think they're. 
Called syringe hands. 

694
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,880
Not the most. 
Appealing name we we could 

695
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,400
workshop that the blued hand, 
the second hand that actually 

696
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,560
you know is curved at the end so
it can go over these * indices 

697
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,720
which are are the star of the 
show. 

698
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,640
And then you have the 1236 and 9
numerals and those are in an art

699
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,360
deco style made by Hachi Maya, 
Seoka. 

700
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,360
And it also has a blue around 
the inner ring because this one 

701
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,600
is called, they call it copper, 
but it has a little more pink 

702
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,560
tone to it. 
It's not the same color as your 

703
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,360
toki, which is more salmon. 
I think this one has a little 

704
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,360
more pink which then the pink 
blue goes together super well. 

705
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,480
Funny enough, it also has a 
railroad minute track. 

706
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,600
So our 2 watches, yeah we. 
Both have railroads on it. 

707
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,440
Probably where the similarities 
start and end. 

708
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,560
No, because they're also steel. 
They are so and then it has a 

709
00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:01,920
step down case, which is really 
beautiful and honestly, I have I

710
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,160
absolutely loved wearing this 
watch I. 

711
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,000
Have been surprised because you 
know you do have an extensive 

712
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,200
collection it's a broad 
collection in terms of like the 

713
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,560
types of watches that you have 
and even though you didn't don't

714
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,520
have a sector dial yet and you 
don't actually have a lot of 

715
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,280
watches in the 34mm size no I 
think I. 

716
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,160
Forgot completely to say it's 34
millimeter. 

717
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,800
Oh yeah, it's which? 
Is a great size. 

718
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,040
On me SO. 
And you don't wear a ton of 

719
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,320
watches on leather straps, no. 
And this one was more 

720
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,040
interesting because I didn't 
love the strap that it came on. 

721
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,440
A black leather strap it. 
Was too big for you? 

722
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,840
Yeah, it did not fit and. 
So then I, we just kind of 

723
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,760
looked through like what straps 
do we have that are 18mm? 

724
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
And the answer was not that many
of mine. 

725
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,320
And so I had one that I felt 
like I at first I was like, I 

726
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,480
don't think it fits perfectly, 
but I'm just going to try it and

727
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,320
see how it looks because it's 
one of the ones. 

728
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,280
And so this is a strap that 
Deluxe sent to go on my normals 

729
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Tetra. 
I wasn't going to say no else 

730
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:15,400
today, but now I did normals 
Tetra and it is a dark brown 2 

731
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000
tone strap. 
It also has the tan like 

732
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,320
contrasting stitching, edge 
painting and tan and the keepers

733
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,080
are in tan and. 
It has. 

734
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,320
The brown the dark brown is kind
of a bit textured and so it 

735
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,600
looks a little more like 
antiquish to me, but I have 

736
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,560
found that I love it on this 
watch. 

737
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,560
I think it really suits it super
well and it it almost makes it 

738
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,440
look like maybe I'm wearing a 
vintage watch, especially when 

739
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,880
it's 34mm. 
It's also the. 

740
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,120
Design of the dial has a vintage
vibe. 

741
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,960
It's not like some vintage copy 
look. 

742
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,440
It's more like there's just a 
language there that evokes a 

743
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,000
vintage feel. 
Yeah, well. 

744
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,360
I. 
Mean The thing is the the star 

745
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,920
dial is taken from the 1930s and
1940s. 

746
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,840
One of the most famous star 
dials is actually Rolex. 

747
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,400
That's their Stelling named now 
like people call them the 

748
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,080
Stellen dial Rolex. 
They were made in the 1940s and 

749
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,440
it was about this sort of post 
dwar optimism and artistic 

750
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,720
expression. 
They're also like Elgin did star

751
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:31,480
watch styles and then lawn jeans
did a pocket watch with stars 

752
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,120
called the three star caliber 
37.93. 

753
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,920
And so these, like, stars around
mostly not doing them 

754
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,680
everywhere, but again, some 
numerals and stars is something 

755
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,600
that goes back to the 1930s and 
1940s, which is really cool. 

756
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,800
And also because this watch, 
like I mentioned, is Art Deco 

757
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,920
inspired. 
So then I've been doing like, I 

758
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,440
actually did like a full deep 
dive on everything, which was 

759
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,520
really fun to, like, look up 
more about it. 

760
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,640
And it only makes me love it 
more. 

761
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,080
Yeah. 
So as I said, Hajimi Asyoka 

762
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,680
wants to blend Japanese 
minimalism and Art Deco 

763
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,360
opulence. 
And Art Deco, some of the key 

764
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,120
things, you know, it was very 
popular in the 1920s and 1930s 

765
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,080
and it was four kind of key 
points, which were geometry, 

766
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,240
luxury, modernism and glamour. 
And I don't know when I'd like 

767
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:29,800
the more I started reading about
Art Deco. 

768
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:37,400
And then also I started reading 
a lot more about Carano and that

769
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,240
now. 
And I did all this after wearing

770
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:45,400
the watch for a week straight 
with nothing else. 

771
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,760
And it makes me really like it 
more because Hachi Miyasuoka is 

772
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,640
first of all, like an incredible
watchmaker, very celebrated 

773
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:57,360
watchmaker. 
And he made last year 4 watches 

774
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,720
and wonders. 
He made a personal piece. 

775
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,440
So it's it's his own for his 
atelier, but he just wants to 

776
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,320
show something interesting each 
year at Watches and Wonders. 

777
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,000
And that was the first time you 
and I went to AHCI, met Haji 

778
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:17,280
Mausseka, saw the watch, which 
was called the Tsunami, and it 

779
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,560
was called As Time goes By. 
And it was a purely personal 

780
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,480
project, he said. 
And since it was just for 

781
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,160
myself, he had no concern for 
whether the design was 

782
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,240
marketable. 
But then because people liked it

783
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:34,200
so much, he really thought like 
maybe be he could, you know, he 

784
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,280
wanted to bring it to the chrono
line. 

785
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,160
And the interesting thing is he 
originally wanted that watch to 

786
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,000
have these stars, but the 
manufacturing process was too 

787
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,160
difficult for them for the 
quality level that he wanted. 

788
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,080
And so when he did this star 
project, it was like bringing to

789
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,800
life the original design idea. 
So this one is actually called 

790
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,320
the the Carano special project 
star dial, which is very cool. 

791
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,040
And it has these high polished 
steel applied stars. 

792
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,560
And then the font was designed 
by Hajimiya Seoka. 

793
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,000
And I don't know it really, it 
made me feel very delighted for 

794
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,400
it. 
And also with Carano, I mean, 

795
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,560
you had talked to me about it 
before, but the idea is that 

796
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,280
Hajimiya Seoka has his atelier. 
And so that's where he's making 

797
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,600
his like much. 
More €100,000 watches, Yeah, 

798
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,560
yeah. 
Watches and what he knew is that

799
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,920
there's watch enthusiasts who, 
who also appreciate the design 

800
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,280
language that he has. 
And so he wanted to make 

801
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,360
something that was more 
accessible and which obviously 

802
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,240
as someone who, you know, both 
of us actually, we love 

803
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,800
community and the feeling of 
accessibility and how can more 

804
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,520
people get into watches and how 
can more people appreciate 

805
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,920
different designs. 
So I really loved that that 

806
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,920
premise a lot. 
And just thinking about when 

807
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,680
they speak on the website about 
his design and like what he 

808
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,480
wants it says Hajima Asuka's 
significance lies in his ability

809
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,800
to reconcile contradictions, 
tradition and innovation, 

810
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,600
machine precision and human 
imperfection, Western technique 

811
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,120
and Japanese soul. 
He represents a new paradigm in 

812
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Horology 1, where craftsmanship 
is not about technical mastery, 

813
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,120
but cultural storytelling. 
And I was like, chomp, chomp, 

814
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,800
chomp, Yum Yum, Yum. 
I love, I love what you're 

815
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,080
saying here. 
This is like Lydia Catnip. 

816
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,480
You know what makes me actually 
cats? 

817
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,440
Don't eat catnip. 
I think they just sniff it. 

818
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,760
Or do they eat it? 
I don't. 

819
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,400
OK, chomp, chomp, chomp. 
You've owned a lot of. 

820
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,840
Cats. 
I would think you'd know. 

821
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,960
I thought they just. 
Smell and kind of roll around. 

822
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,880
No, I'm serious. 
I I do. 

823
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,520
Not know, but OK. 
Here's what makes me happy is 

824
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:04,840
that you spent over a week with 
this watch and every couple days

825
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,080
you would say things that made 
it clear to me that you were 

826
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,960
truly falling in love with the 
watch. 

827
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,600
I knew you'd like it because 
even at first sight, you really 

828
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,200
liked it. 
I didn't know you'd love it as 

829
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,960
much as you do. 
And what I love is that you fell

830
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
in love with the watch before 
you got into all this cool 

831
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,800
storytelling, which even only 
enhanced your view of the watch 

832
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,960
and the design and what thought 
went behind it. 

833
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,640
And Haji may also because, like,
plan and what he's trying to do,

834
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,040
but you already love the watch 
as an object on its own without 

835
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,960
really knowing much about even 
the brand. 

836
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,000
And that's not typically how we 
get to know watches. 

837
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,360
But in this case, it was nice 
seeing it happen in that order. 

838
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:48,360
Yeah. 
And I mean. 

839
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,840
For me, I've always been, I am a
fan of any brand that has a more

840
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,200
like singular vision, even if 
it's a vision that I don't like.

841
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,320
I think that strong point of 
view, especially like in design 

842
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,800
is really interesting because 
then you can explore a lot 

843
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,600
within that. 
But you don't, you know, you, 

844
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,200
you still create restraints. 
Like for me, restraints are 

845
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,760
always adding more creativity. 
I think if you just have like, 

846
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,400
oh, here color anything, that's 
very hard to do. 

847
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,760
As soon as you kind of box 
yourself in and create, what are

848
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,400
the restraints of this, you get 
the best design and the most 

849
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,360
incredible things. 
And so like learning about the 

850
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,640
his work is restrained, poetic, 
deeply human. 

851
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,000
I, I was like, all of this I 
love so, so much. 

852
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,320
And they even have an artisan's 
code that they have on the 

853
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,440
website. 
And it's that every Asayoka 

854
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,560
timepiece is a solo performance,
even for his accessible Krono 

855
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,280
Tokyo brand. 
Each Krono is personally 

856
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,360
designed and prototyped by him. 
The dial paints and finishes are

857
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,920
mixed by hand, The fonts are 
individually created and 

858
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,480
lettered by him, and the 
necessary movement modifications

859
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,640
are prototyped on his tool 
bench. 

860
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,800
His watches are not tools. 
This is speaking to me, but 

861
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,360
wearable poetry blending 
precision with the soul of 

862
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,560
Japanese aesthetics. 
Yeah. 

863
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:22,400
So my love for this watch and 
Haji Maasuyoka, which next time.

864
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,680
I've always had a little even. 
I think it was just like the 

865
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,080
reverence you showed for him. 
The first time we met him, I was

866
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,320
like, OK, Vu really likes him. 
And then also, you know, he had 

867
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,320
his beautiful tsunami watch in 
the case and I was like trying 

868
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,040
to photograph it and then he 
took it out and like put it on 

869
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,120
the table so I could take 
photos. 

870
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,680
And I was like, and it was so 
beautiful. 

871
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,520
And so Art Deco. 
And so then to Fast forward a 

872
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:53,120
year and think of like how much 
my life in watches has just 

873
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,480
changed. 
And I mean, and in life and how 

874
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,520
watches, you know, through both 
last year at Watches and 

875
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,960
wonders, that was our first time
to watches and wonders. 

876
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,360
It was our first, you know, we 
had just started this little 

877
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,120
daily project with a podcast 
every day, and now we're just 

878
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,640
seeing now we're in this, like, 
next iteration of ourselves, 

879
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,000
which is cool. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

880
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,480
So to have the star dial based 
on this watch that I saw last 

881
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,680
year, I see the poetry in it, 
and I really, really love it. 

882
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,120
And I also, even though I do not
typically care about the 

883
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:37,640
movement, I do like that it is a
Miota 90S5, which is wholly made

884
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,160
in Japan. 
And so that's something really 

885
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,200
important to them. 
And you know, specs is never 

886
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,320
really the thing that I'm like, 
I mean, I I actually didn't know

887
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,880
what the water speaking. 
Of that. 

888
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,040
You're really going to use it I.
Have a little clip that I I did,

889
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,200
I did tell Lydia I was going to 
play and I thought. 

890
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,960
You would forget. 
Actually, here we go. 

891
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,840
Did you just ask me? 
I just asked you what the water 

892
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,120
resistance is of my new watch 
because I actually don't. 

893
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,480
I never looked it up or thought 
about it but I'm collecting 

894
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,200
rocks in the water but I OK. 
To me, this is like, that's a 

895
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,960
dream, to live life without 
thinking about water resistance.

896
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,960
But OK, we're at the end of our 
trip and just now you're 

897
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,840
thinking about water resistance 
for your watch. 

898
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,840
Yeah, OK. 
Well, it's. 30 meters. 

899
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,320
OK, so. 
I can jump in the water. 

900
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,480
It's too. 
You can dive. 

901
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,520
Down 30 meters underwater, it's 
too cold. 

902
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,720
So I think that Corona. 
I'll have to look it up, but I 

903
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,200
think Corona. 
Says that you can only. 

904
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,800
Wash your hands, rock 
collecting. 

905
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,680
I'm going to look it up. 
We have different reactions. 

906
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:51,880
But I would like to say because 
I don't typically get to say it 

907
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,600
and it makes me a little too 
delighted to say it. 

908
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,360
You are wrong. 
Wait, was that? 

909
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,360
Wrong it. 
Is 5 bar. 

910
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:04,360
I looked on the back 5050. 
But what does Corona say you can

911
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,680
do with 50? 
Oh, no, I didn't look that up. 

912
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,720
Well, OK. 
So Speaking of water resistance,

913
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,240
you were. 
Gonna All right, so Speaking of 

914
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,720
water, wait, this is always Boo.
He's just in any conversation 

915
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,520
people are talking about, not at
all about water and booze. 

916
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,840
Like, oh, Speaking of water 
resistance water. 

917
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,280
Resistance. 
Someone's like. 

918
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,080
How about that sports ball? 
I'm like, Speaking of water 

919
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:31,280
resistance, OK? 
This was choosing a watch to 

920
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,080
wear on an entire vacation for 
two weeks. 

921
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,880
And this sounds silly to some 
people, probably, but for not 

922
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,640
anyone? 
Who's listening to this podcast 

923
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,000
if you're listening to this? 
Podcast. 

924
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,640
You get it. 
Maybe Deirdre. 

925
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,240
Deirdre thinks it's weird. 
Choosing one. 

926
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:47,840
Watch for two weeks is a big 
deal to me. 

927
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,000
And so like you know, like I 
said for 13 years I've traveled 

928
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,960
with multiple watches. 
Maybe on a very short trip, I, I

929
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,640
would do it and going to watches
and wonders was only four days 

930
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,400
and it was a big deal that I 
only brought 2 watches on that 

931
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,880
trip, right? 
And so I also usually just kind 

932
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,360
of miss my watches when I'm 
traveling. 

933
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,600
But anyway, I talked to Ken at 
the legs about these straps, 

934
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,720
right? 
And the the criteria I had for 

935
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,880
both the watch and thinking 
about the straps was kind of 

936
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:24,120
there's two parts to it and one 
is versatile looks and the other

937
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,640
is like go anywhere, do anything
capabilities, right. 

938
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,480
And the looks, obviously the 
watch head itself needs to be 

939
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,680
somewhat versatile. 
However, on this trip we talked 

940
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,640
about it that we probably 
weren't going to go out to any 

941
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,480
fancy and nothing fancy. 
We weren't dressing up. 

942
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,800
We didn't bring well, you 
probably brought a lot. 

943
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,160
I did I. 
Wear them sometimes when we like

944
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,760
have well, you're wearing them. 
Right now as we podcast one of 

945
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,320
your very nice jackets and this 
is just her trying to get 

946
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,320
through all the clothes. 
But anyway, so or else. 

947
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,160
I'll be left in Portugal, which 
there's worse things, honestly, 

948
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,840
I I live in Portugal, you just 
want to live in. 

949
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:04,720
Portugal with the donkeys this 
watch, I think you know, you 

950
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:08,000
could dress it up. 
You could, but mainly I think it

951
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,320
fits almost everything except 
for dressy and you know, maybe 

952
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,760
with the right straps. 
So when I talked to Ken, I was 

953
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,240
like, I want 4 straps, but I 
already had one and then we also

954
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:22,600
decided to do four more. 
So I I actually got 5 straps for

955
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,360
it and I've used all five of 
them in different scenarios. 

956
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:28,920
So the one that I already own 
from Deluxe they gave us last 

957
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,240
year was the Epsom black leather
strap. 

958
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,320
I love this strap. 
It has contrast white stitching 

959
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,120
on it. 
It's a simple, very thin style 

960
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,480
of leather strap. 
I just think it matches the 

961
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,440
style very well. 
It just looks like it was made 

962
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,480
for this one I think. 
That's the most technically 

963
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,840
perfect pairing. 
Yeah, yeah. 

964
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,960
Because it. 
Just yeah, it just works. 

965
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,000
Yeah, it's just the watch really
Well, yeah. 

966
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,440
And it looks that's off the dial
too, because with like the 

967
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,160
pebbling of the leather and then
you have the texture on the 

968
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,240
dial. 
I think it really matches I. 

969
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,560
Love that pairing and if I could
only choose one like that, I was

970
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,440
going to just put on the watch 
and just like that's the that's 

971
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,360
the watch for it. 
There's the dunk it again. 

972
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,440
It's. 
More than every hour. 

973
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:19,800
Yeah, it is. 
More than every hour. 

974
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,240
It turns out that that would be 
the this watch and I just think 

975
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:27,560
it's a fantastic regular wear 
strap for this watch. 

976
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,000
And then the second one was the 
CTS, which is the cut to size. 

977
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,920
So the rubber straps that you 
you cut it to size and then it 

978
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,640
has this kind of butterfly 
spring loaded clasp deployment 

979
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,240
clasp. 
And this one is the pilot style.

980
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,080
So with deluxe, they have a 
bunch of different styles for 

981
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,200
their rubber straps and this 
one's the pilot style. 

982
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,560
So the way it's cut and the 
proves that it has in it looks 

983
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,720
kind of like pilot style. 
And I got one in black, which 

984
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,680
was meant to be the go anywhere,
do anything. 

985
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,040
If that strap is on it, then I 
can do anything I want in this 

986
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,480
watch. 
And then I also got the same 

987
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:12,040
exact thing in orange and that 
was meant to be like it's 

988
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,720
summary here, it's fun, we're 
going to the beach, like what's 

989
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,400
the fun strap? 
And that's what I meant it to 

990
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,640
be. 
But I ended up OK, I'll give you

991
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,800
more thoughts on that. 
And then I also got this olive 

992
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,720
green. 
Olive green. 

993
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:30,800
Sailcloth strap, which is 
actually a rubber strap but 

994
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,360
looks like sailcloth and has 
real stitching in it. 

995
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,600
I love these. 
That's my. 

996
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,080
Favorite pairing I think, 
because I think just the green. 

997
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,000
I mean, I always love a sort of 
more military olive green. 

998
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:49,240
It's such a great pairing and 
then also an olive green Delcro 

999
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:53,400
strap, which is their stretchy 
fabric straps and that one also 

1000
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,960
has Velcro on it. 
That's why it's called the 

1001
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,840
Velcro Deluxe Velcro. 
And that one came in really, you

1002
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,000
know what? 
You know, when I used that one 

1003
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,480
mainly 'cause I use this style 
strap, if I'm like working out 

1004
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,840
right, you know all the work we 
did not. 

1005
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,880
Do any work did not do. 
Any I would say it wasn't. 

1006
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,080
The food poisoning took down the
active vacation, Yeah. 

1007
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,400
This has not been that active, 
it's been more. 

1008
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,680
Relaxing, but. 
One of the things that this 

1009
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,560
strap was really nice for was 
when we were sick and we didn't 

1010
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,400
leave the room for three days. 
Then I wore the watch on this 

1011
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,760
strap and it was just very 
comfortable because Foo wearing.

1012
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,280
A watch, my watch sat nicely on 
the table and I you picked it up

1013
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,600
and you're like. 
The time is wrong. 

1014
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,720
I'm like you haven't worn it in 
two days although. 

1015
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:41,320
Like day day three I was like I 
need something beautiful to look

1016
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,680
at. 
So I did wear it that day so. 

1017
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,160
That was looks and then there's 
the Gauda capabilities to go 

1018
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,320
anywhere, do anything 
capabilities and here is where 

1019
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,760
things got a little bit 
different. 

1020
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:58,280
So this watch is rated for 30 
meters water resistance and I 

1021
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,200
specifically asked Maria Hobring
on Instagram. 

1022
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Like what does 30 meters mean to
Hobring? 

1023
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,080
To buoy investigative 
journalist, Yes. 

1024
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,120
So, investigative, I asked a 
single question and to the 

1025
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,880
direct. 
Source She. 

1026
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,840
Answered it immediately and she 
said it means 30 meters so go 

1027
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,360
swimming with it. 
Do whatever you want with it. 

1028
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,520
It's a 30m water resistance 
watch and they're tested and 

1029
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,080
meant to be used up to a depth 
of 30 meters. 

1030
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,400
So more like Omega Mega Patek, 
right? 

1031
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,200
It's like what it says that's 
what it is and that is how you 

1032
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,600
should use it. 
So I thought, you know, back in 

1033
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,680
the day when I first started 
collecting watches and I wasn't 

1034
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:43,840
at all in a watch community, all
I was was someone who had bought

1035
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,400
some nice watches and really 
loved them. 

1036
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,960
I wore those watches everywhere.
The first watch you bought me, 

1037
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,960
which is A tag Hoyer Carrera 
heritage, right, Caliber 6, it 

1038
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,720
didn't have a screw down crown, 
none of that stuff. 

1039
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,760
But it said 100m water 
resistance and I wore that and 

1040
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,680
my Bell and Ross BRO 3, which 
also said 100m water resistance.

1041
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,840
I wore them jet skiing, I wore 
them swimming, jumping in the 

1042
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,640
water, anything. 
Did not matter. 

1043
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Didn't think about it. 
I did all that. 

1044
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,680
With my Cartier rose gold tank. 
No, I didn't. 

1045
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,600
I didn't. 
Everyone calm yourself. 

1046
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,040
I did not. 
I did not. 

1047
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:17,800
It is. 
Just. 

1048
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,760
And. 
So just a joke. 

1049
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,160
You know what this is what 
hovering is saying. 

1050
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,640
Hovering too is saying that this
is a water resistant watch up to

1051
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,800
30 meters, use it for whatever. 
And I did and I will say it is 

1052
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,360
so freeing and it brings me back
to that older time where I just 

1053
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,080
didn't think about about it as 
much. 

1054
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,800
Now, I'm not saying don't test 
your seals every year, don't you

1055
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,840
know like maintain your watches.
But I do think that we can 

1056
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,120
sometimes be too precious and 
have too high of standards of 

1057
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,600
what is this supposed to mean? 
So 30 meters means swim with it.

1058
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,080
And I have swam with it. 
I've been in the pool, I've been

1059
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,600
in the sauna, We've gone out a 
really cool. 

1060
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,720
Photo of you in the pool that is
true. 

1061
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,800
That's really cool. 
And I have a nice little reel 

1062
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,360
because we've been using a lot 
of sunblock. 

1063
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,840
I've been having to clean the 
watch off and I just wash it 

1064
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,520
under the running water in the 
sink with soap and just get that

1065
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,920
off and or the mine just. 
Has the sunscreen still? 

1066
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,600
Well, yeah, but you. 
Have a leather strap on. 

1067
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,200
Yeah. 
And so I do that when I have one

1068
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,760
of the rubber straps on. 
So that. 

1069
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,240
That's that's fair. 
Or or I can just pop it off and 

1070
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:27,120
just I will. 
Say I actually the only thing 

1071
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:32,000
that I, I thought like I yeah, 
yeah, yeah. 

1072
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,600
It's weird for me that I only 
have a leather strap because I 

1073
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,560
typically mainly wear bracelets 
when you're traveling. 

1074
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,840
Especially or. 
Some kind of water resistant 

1075
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,840
strap. 
I almost never, never, never 

1076
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,320
wear a leather strap yeah yeah, 
yeah. 

1077
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,280
So that's been different, but I 
really like it too. 

1078
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,880
It gives such a cool look and 
also unless you're going. 

1079
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,720
In the water it kind of does it,
and also I. 

1080
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:02,600
Have to say, sometimes, many 
times when I'm traveling with my

1081
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,880
Rolex, I'm just hyper aware of 
my watch all the time when we're

1082
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,320
traveling because I'm, I'm, I 
just feel like if I roll up my 

1083
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,120
sleeve, does someone see it? 
Do they notice it? 

1084
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,240
Like, you know, OK, we're, we're
luckily we're not like ever even

1085
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,680
out after dark. 
Very old people. 

1086
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,240
But it I I always feel a little 
more just self-conscious 

1087
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,800
depending on where I am or just 
like a lot of thoughts. 

1088
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,320
It takes up a lot of mind space.
This takes up none other than oh

1089
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,200
so pretty every time I look at 
it and wow, OK, I like I it 

1090
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,560
will. 
It makes me rethink a lot about 

1091
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,120
my collecting. 
I mean, we we can dive into this

1092
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,240
another episode, but it it has 
given me a lot of things to 

1093
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,320
think about for my future of 
collecting. 

1094
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,600
I mean, I've said. 
This for years, but this trip I 

1095
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,040
felt it more than usual. 
Is that so? 

1096
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,040
This is not an inexpensive 
watch. 

1097
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:01,240
My hovering right. 
And I put it on this orange 

1098
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,600
strap multiple times when we 
were out later at night and I 

1099
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,720
didn't it's not Portugal feels 
so safe and wonderful and 

1100
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,480
everything has been lovely. 
Nothing. 

1101
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,720
But I think about security. 
Yeah, I'm, I'm just, you know, 

1102
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,640
I, I, I have been robbed before,
not in Portugal, but I have been

1103
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,520
robbed before. 
And so it's just something I 

1104
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,040
think about and like, I don't 
want someone. 

1105
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,360
It's not even about like, is it 
expensive? 

1106
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,480
You know what is the loss? 
It's like I don't light a gun 

1107
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,160
pointed in my face again, you 
know, it's not fun. 

1108
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,920
I don't like it. 
So I'd rather no one even 

1109
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,920
approach me. 
And and So what I've found is 

1110
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,240
that if you wear a watch, no 
matter the watch, even if it's a

1111
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,600
Rolex OP. 
But if you put it on a fabric or

1112
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,200
a bright colored strap or a 
bright colored fabric strap, it 

1113
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,440
immediately looks less like a 
serious watch. 

1114
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,640
And unless it's very 
recognizable, I would just say 

1115
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,240
that having seen many videos 
online and non watch people 

1116
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,040
reacting to expensive watches 
and all of this stuff and like 

1117
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,720
even the Ulis Nardin that we got
to play with the the the diver 

1118
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,200
air right when it was on that 
fabric orange strap. 

1119
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,120
It just tones it down and makes 
it feel a little more playful, a

1120
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,600
little less fun, and possibly 
because I don't know the. 

1121
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,320
Statistics. 
Or yeah, a little. 

1122
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,560
More fun. 
I was like, wait a little. 

1123
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,000
More fun, less of a target. 
That's what I think and I I 

1124
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,160
can't prove that, but it's how I
feel and that the feeling 

1125
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,240
matters. 
But. 

1126
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,400
Someone who is stealing 
something, not to go super deep 

1127
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,440
into the psychology of it, but 
it is like a risk versus reward 

1128
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,000
and you need to know that it's a
reward. 

1129
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,080
You need to feel. 
Confident, so that feels. 

1130
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,360
Nice when it's like this, 
doesn't feel like a reward even 

1131
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,960
when it's something bright 
orange. 

1132
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,720
Strap bright bright pink or 
bright yellow or anything that 

1133
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,960
just feels my. 
Favorite, but actually over 

1134
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,280
time, I really I really like, 
you know, orange is a. 

1135
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,520
Very military because it's an 
emergency color. 

1136
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,120
And so, you know, there's, 
there's a deep history of orange

1137
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,800
and the military wearing that. 
Day it's wearing the emergency 

1138
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,360
Day I don't even remember, No. 
No, I didn't. 

1139
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,160
I was wearing the leather strap.
You're like, look. 

1140
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,840
I can put my flashlight on this 
orange and but OK. 

1141
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,440
To wrap up the whole go 
anywhere, do anything. 

1142
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,480
The other thing that's important
to me that this watch, it's like

1143
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,840
it has an A magnetic escapement 
because it has this Carl Haas 

1144
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,320
hairspraying and it's like 
really cool and it has Kiff 

1145
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,000
shock resistance. 
Like almost all watch movements 

1146
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,360
these days have some sort of 
shock resistance built in. 

1147
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,480
And this one is tested to a few 
different standards, DIN 83O8-A 

1148
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:48,360
and NIHS 91-10, which is mainly 
when I try to look them up 

1149
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,000
because these standards aren't 
just out there and fully 

1150
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,720
published. 
You actually need to buy the 

1151
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,160
papers to understand the 
standards, but like what they 

1152
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,520
simulate because they're done 
with hammers that you know, that

1153
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,440
are at 4.43 meters per second 
and they hit the watch at from 

1154
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,120
two different angles. 
And all of this, they're meant 

1155
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:12,720
to simulate a 1m fall onto 
hardwood, which I never knew 

1156
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,520
until I look this stuff up. 
Remember when I dropped my 

1157
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,800
Explorer 2 just a few weeks 
after owning it when we were in 

1158
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,800
Nepal, I dropped it from about a
actually it was maybe a meter 

1159
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,040
and a half onto a hardwood floor
and it survived fine. 

1160
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,440
And I'm like, oh, maybe it was 
tested to this. 

1161
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,320
Standard, but what it's? 
Been like with this one watch, 

1162
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,160
number one, it's been a better 
experience than I expected and 

1163
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,400
my daily choice reduced to just 
like, what strap am I going to 

1164
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,160
wear? 
I will say I change straps 

1165
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,960
multiple times a day, but like I
love that as a choice as opposed

1166
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,520
to what watch I'm going to wear.
Is that such a bigger decision 

1167
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,840
on a trip? 
At home, I don't mind it at all,

1168
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,920
but on vacation it's like, oh, 
and then what watch am I going 

1169
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,800
to leave in the room? 
Am I going to put it in the 

1170
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,520
safe? 
Am I going to hide it somewhere?

1171
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,160
Like you have to think about 
these things. 

1172
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:09,120
And so, yeah, I have enjoyed 
immensely wearing just one watch

1173
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,720
on this trip, but it's also a 
new watch. 

1174
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,520
And So what I really enjoyed was
getting to know this watch and 

1175
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,720
having the the lack of choice 
means I didn't get to go to 

1176
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,960
something else that I'm more 
familiar and comfortable with. 

1177
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,000
It's like, no, every day this is
the watch I'm wearing. 

1178
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,040
And it's just like, how do I 
want to dress up that watch? 

1179
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,120
And it's been. 
Lovely. 

1180
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,240
I have well also I love this 
watch. 

1181
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,120
I am so in love with this watch.
I have said multiple times on 

1182
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,160
this trip why do I own other 
watches and I know I said that 

1183
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,480
you didn't. 
Mention, though, that when we 

1184
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,000
were in Geneva, you got to see 
it for the first time. 

1185
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,040
Oh, yeah, at dinner. 
And you have to shout out Zach 

1186
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,560
Weiss because he had this watch.
He was where you've been wanting

1187
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,040
to see it, and it's one of his 
favorites. 

1188
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:55,960
It's one of his favorites. 
He says. 

1189
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,240
It's very easy for him to put 
on. 

1190
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,640
And now I understand, like it's 
going to be a watch I grab all 

1191
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,760
the time. 
It's just so easy, easy to wear 

1192
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,120
the size, the shape, it fits on 
the wrist so beautifully. 

1193
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,400
I love this watch and I really 
love the whole story of Richard 

1194
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,480
and Maria hovering and hovering 
too. 

1195
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,040
And they have a little comic 
book about how they met and 

1196
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,240
their dog and all this stuff on 
their website. 

1197
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,320
It's just so cool. 
And then to have also very 

1198
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,480
fortunate that Deluxe was, you 
know, willing to send these 

1199
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,840
straps for this. 
I call it an experience. 

1200
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,520
It's for this vacation, I guess,
but like to try out what I 

1201
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,440
wanted to try out and photograph
them in all these different 

1202
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,360
things. 
Like to have these five 

1203
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,640
different straps. 
That has also been wonderful 

1204
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,080
because if it was only on one 
leather strap, I couldn't have 

1205
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,960
gone swimming with that. 
I couldn't do certain things 

1206
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,800
with it. 
And so it would have been more 

1207
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,400
limited or I, I, so I would have
had to, I know because. 

1208
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,560
I'm limited. 
I have a leather strap. 

1209
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,800
I would but. 
Which is fine. 

1210
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,520
You just take the watch off and 
you leave it in the room. 

1211
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,840
When we went down to the pool, 
like that's what you did and 

1212
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,600
that was totally fine. 
But I like having my watch with 

1213
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,280
me at all times and even on 
vacation I want to know what 

1214
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,960
time it is. 
And so I like to be able to just

1215
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,160
wear. 
I would not wear my watch in the

1216
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,080
sauna all the time if I was 
saunning every day. 

1217
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:14,520
But like saunning on vacation 
like a few times every couple of

1218
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,640
years, then I'm fine with it. 
I I do not condone constant 

1219
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,360
sauna for watches. 
OK, OK. 

1220
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,640
Just I want. 
To make that clear as a public. 

1221
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,520
Service announcement from 
Foobooey. 

1222
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,160
I have actually really enjoyed 
it. 

1223
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:34,960
I think that this watch 
particularly gives a lot, It 

1224
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,360
gives a lot to look at it 
really. 

1225
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,640
You know, the size of 34mm is 
different for me because 

1226
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,040
typically I would have said 36 
is my perfect. 

1227
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,960
Wearing this, I'm like, it might
be 34 just in terms of 

1228
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,400
proportion and feel and like, 
it's very lightweight. 

1229
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,680
It has, you know, it has a 
beautiful case design. 

1230
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,120
But I just really have fallen in
love with the look of the dial. 

1231
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,160
And I just find, yeah, the 
stars. 

1232
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,120
I find that I just continually 
look at it and it makes me 

1233
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,320
really happy. 
And I look at it almost never 

1234
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,960
for the time on this trip. 
I look at it for the beauty of 

1235
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,760
it. 
And isn't that the poetry that 

1236
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,600
Haji Miyasuka is trying to 
accomplish? 

1237
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,640
I think that I just look at it, 
it makes me feel so happy. 

1238
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,319
And actually I wanted to ask 
you, 'cause I thought it would 

1239
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:27,600
be really nice if you got the 
case back engraved for me on it.

1240
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,760
That's how much I love it. 
I wanted asking. 

1241
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,680
Live on the podcast. 
So I have to say yes, yes. 

1242
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:34,560
Of course I will get it. 
Engraved. 

1243
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,319
I don't know, I. 
Just on this trip, I was like, 

1244
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:39,960
oh, I want I, you know, I want 
this to be a forever watch, OK? 

1245
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,760
I just, I really love it that 
much. 

1246
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,840
That makes me so. 
Happy, I admit. 

1247
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,920
OK, you also do that with. 
Just like beaming. 

1248
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,840
Yeah, yeah. 
But I, it really has been so 

1249
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:55,920
nice to wear one watch. 
And yeah, the getting to 

1250
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,160
research it for the podcast 
actually made me love it more 

1251
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,399
and appreciate all of the 
details more. 

1252
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,760
And as someone who really cares 
about and loves design, in the 

1253
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,880
process of design and the, the 
thought and care that someone 

1254
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,680
puts into it, that really this 
watch speaks to me even more. 

1255
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,640
And I think I mean like at the 
price point, which is like you 

1256
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:22,160
said. 
It's under $2000, under 2. 1000 

1257
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,399
USD, It's just a it's just a 
great watch. 

1258
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,359
Yeah, I I'm so happy with it. 
That that makes me happy. 

1259
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,520
You happy equals me happy. 
And I'm happy with my watch. 

1260
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,160
I bought it for myself, but I'm 
still happy. 

1261
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,080
Yeah, that's OK. 
Yours is more expensive. 

1262
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:38,600
Much more expensive much? 
More expensive I. 

1263
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,960
I hope you all enjoyed this 
slightly extra long episode. 

1264
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,720
Watches watches. 
Watches, yeah, but we. 

1265
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,279
Skipped a week, then we. 
Did a slightly extra long. 

1266
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:53,160
Episode this week and then next 
week we'll be back in the studio

1267
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,000
yes and. 
We I will fire up the old 

1268
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,520
Instagram account, OK and post a
photo of both of us wearing 

1269
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,560
these watches and we would love 
to know and our Instagram 

1270
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,000
account is at this watch life 
podcast. 

1271
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,000
Oh yeah. 
And it would be awesome to know 

1272
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,280
like what watches you bring on 
vacation. 

1273
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,120
Any any thoughts that you have. 
You can also always, always 

1274
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:19,120
e-mail us. 
I don't remember what I do OK. 

1275
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:22,040
Don't e-mail us, you get 
questions at. 

1276
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,040
Thiswatchlife.com OK. 
And for a while it wasn't 

1277
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,000
working. 
So if you sent something, if you

1278
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,800
sent something for many months. 
It was broken then. 

1279
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,160
Recently and our contact. 
Form was broken too. 

1280
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,040
OK, we're getting everything 
back together. 

1281
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,240
Yeah. 
And and. 

1282
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,240
Professional podcast. 
We're so pro. 

1283
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,880
Yeah. 
Pro level and with that have a 

1284
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,760
great day and Bah Bah Bah.