1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,720 Welcome to this watch life. Hi, I'm Lydia Winters and. 2 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:17,240 I'm blue buoy. So yesterday I went out for Fika 3 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,560 with a colleague. Yeah, Fika is like a coffee and 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,640 a cinnamon bun break in Sweden. It's like a snack break. 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,040 Yeah, like a. Usually in coffee. 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,120 Coffee. Yeah, coffee for. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,280 Adults at least cause kids have kids have FICA and then there's 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,080 no there's no coffee or tea. OK a pastry of some sort and or 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,000 coffee I. Do believe pastry is a is a key 10 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:43,920 part of FICA? So we were at a a local coffee 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,680 shop that I really like and all of a sudden I saw a woman walk 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,360 by and she was carrying. Get this a tutor watch bag like 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,680 a a tutor bag like a tote. A tote. 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Yeah, I have the same one. Uh huh. 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,080 I had brought mine. I. 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Think we have 3. Yeah, I brought mine to the 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,319 office that day carrying my laptop. 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,880 Very sophisticated carrying method. 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,320 And then I was like, wait, did I leave my, did I leave? 20 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:14,800 Is that mine? You know, just because you're 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,280 just so confused. Did she steal that from me? 22 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,840 I I didn't assume she stole it from me, but I was like. 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,720 That was not your first thought. Your No, I was just like, so 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,200 confused about, like, did I like what happened? 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,480 Yeah. So then I decided I like talking 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,800 to strangers about watches. Yes, you have a pickup line. 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,360 Yes, so this is my new pickup line. 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,080 I like your tutor tote bag. I don't think many people get to 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,400 use that pickup line. You've never gotten to use it 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,440 before. So I went over and I said, oh, 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,400 you know, I just, I noticed your tutor watch bag and like, that's 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,040 so cool. I have the exact same one. 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,240 Like I'm a big watcher. And it turns out that the guy 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,800 who was sitting there, her boyfriend is Johannes, who I 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,760 know, and he's a listener of the podcast. 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,920 And, and I just thought we probably would have just missed 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,520 each other that day, being at the same coffee shop at the same 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,440 time, except that I really want to talk to anyone that has any 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,320 watches. So I hope so. 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,920 My goal now is Johannes wants to get his girlfriend into watches. 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,920 Well, I mean she was carrying a Tudor bag. 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Exactly. You know she's moving in the 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,000 right? Not subtle like let's say, OK, 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,680 if someone likes tote bags, would you you love? 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,480 To I do I do. We have dozens. 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,280 I love tote bags in this house, right and. 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,120 For years 5 dozens, yeah. And you'd you'd kind of find 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,160 your favorite ones. But you love carrying things in 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,560 tote bags. It's just, it's just how you 50 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,760 prefer to carry things. I'm a backpack guy. 51 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,560 You're a tote bag person, right? Like this is just how it goes. 52 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:54,480 And if I was smarter back then, I would have also given you a 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,920 tutor and a Cartier and a you. Know exactly all these. 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Different brags. Subliminal messaging. 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Exactly. And now I went up in compliment. 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,080 It's like we planned it out. We didn't, but. 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,240 You and the Ohanas have now collaborated and making her feel 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,520 very good about this tutor tote bag. 59 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Well, I did tell him I was like, look, Vu also had a time period 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,680 where I wasn't into watches. Look at me now. 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,560 I'm unstoppable. Maybe I should. 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,640 I should be stopped. Yeah, maybe. 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,640 OK, so a second thing. I would like to issue a public 64 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:30,520 apology. This is huge. 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,400 It's for you. It's for me. 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,040 No, it's serious. It's serious. 67 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,080 It's serious. OK, so I have always been a bit 68 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:46,560 like you think too much about could if anything happened when 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,280 you were wearing a watch, could your watch withstand it? 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,480 I, you know, you're like, could I fall? 71 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,200 Could you fall into water? Or could you, you know, like 72 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,200 suddenly be rolling around in the mud or like, could 73 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,040 something? And I have been very much like 74 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 that makes no sense what you usually say. 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Is has it ever happened? Has it ever happened? 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,800 And I would like to say that yesterday, Vu helped save a 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,399 child from a Well, this is a true story. 78 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,120 It sounds fake. It sounds like a fable. 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,200 It does like help pull. The child out of a well. 80 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:28,560 But you vu did and it was had some water and mud in there and 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,080 you were wearing your Auris. My Auris Diver 65. 82 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,840 And it was ready for that water reason. 83 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:34,920 It was. Ready for that? 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,360 I have to apologize. Yes, we had a a fairly traumatic 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,240 for you and much more for the child and and the and his 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,000 mother. But a kid fell into a very small 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,200 luckily only around 2m deep, like kind of a drainage well 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,520 type thing, right? And and I ran over and helped 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,280 her pull him out over. There, yes, and as I sat there, 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:04,920 because I'm not a quick, I'm more like a freezer, not a 91 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,080 freezer free. I freeze. 92 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Yeah, different people react differently. 93 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,560 And my reaction is freezing. Mine is run. 94 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,800 Towards that meant that my Royal Oak was fine 'cause I freeze and 95 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,040 Vu, you know, ran over faster than I've seen you move in a 96 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,200 long time. Do not know the last time and. 97 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,200 You know what? You didn't even have to think 98 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,800 about if your watch was ready for it. 99 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,120 I didn't. And not that you would have. 100 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,720 OK, I just want to say not that he was. 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,200 Like oh I would help save this child, but this watch I'm 102 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,320 wearing today, not water. Resistant. 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,960 Obviously neither of us would have thought of that, but it it 104 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,280 did make me rethink my stance especially. 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,280 Not that I'm going to change how I wear watches, but more that 106 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:56,240 I've been harder and a little bit like teasing you about this 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,000 need for. Well, what you can no longer 108 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,040 say. Is that just nothing will ever? 109 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,600 Has it ever happened? Yeah, because now I can say at 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,960 least one time a thing happened where I had to emergency get my 111 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,600 watch wet. Well. 112 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,680 Exactly. I'm I, You know, I always wished 113 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,680 it would be you just falling into a lake, as you've discussed 114 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,560 many times. But yeah, and that hasn't 115 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,880 happened saving. Children is cool. 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,040 Too, I might fall into a lake. You just don't know or jump in 117 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,040 to save someone who. Will jump in to save. 118 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:33,240 Wasn't it a baby deer, Boo? Booy, my everyday hero children. 119 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,480 Thought it would be deer, not a baby deer. 120 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,440 So OK, a while back, episode 130 Oh we. 121 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,320 Should wait. Hold on, can we just say the 122 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,600 child was totally fine? That's why this? 123 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Some scrapes and bruises. But like, nothing broken. 124 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:54,600 Everybody's OK except for some trauma, yeah, but otherwise 125 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,560 everyone's she. Even had a change of clothes for 126 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,720 him in the car. So it seemed like perhaps she 127 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,880 wasn't. She was ready. 128 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,920 Yes, exactly. I didn't see if she was wearing 129 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,120 a watch. No, no, I didn't. 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,440 I didn't. Excuse me, ma'am. 131 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Yeah. Who just The kid couldn't stop 132 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,000 crying, understandably, but. Everybody, everybody's fine. 133 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,160 I felt I, I, yes, everybody's fine. 134 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Everybody was fine. OK, sorry, go ahead. 135 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Yes, I don't want to leave that as an unanswered question. 136 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,400 Everybody's fine. Yeah. 137 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,240 OK, so while back episode 138, we answered a question from one 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,200 of our listeners about how like they should think about watch 139 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,680 media and brands, right? And that got us thinking. 140 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:41,400 It was around like when you're seeing people post about brands 141 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,760 and you know they're either in the industry as a journalist, as 142 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,480 a YouTube content creator, like how much? 143 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Can you all that kind of? Stuff. 144 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Can you trust what they're saying or were they paid or how 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,520 do you know? My stance was trust no one. 146 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,720 That is should be everyone's stance and you probably never 147 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 even watched X-Files. No, no, sorry. 148 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,840 But anyway, OK, trust no one. Trust no one. 149 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Absolutely true, right? It so, but what it did get us, 150 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,760 it got you. And I had a conversation about 151 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,000 that because we have a history about thinking about these types 152 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,240 of things. And it got us thinking like, 153 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:23,080 well, OK, if we can talk about like what we want to see, then 154 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,760 what can we do, right? Like, what can we now we have 155 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,000 this podcast, we have our Instagram accounts. 156 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:34,200 Like, what could we do that could be relevant for people 157 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,159 when they listen to our podcast, watch our three YouTube videos 158 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:42,400 that exists? Coming back in September 2023. 159 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Yes, or like our Instagram post like and and how they should 160 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,320 think about us and different brands. 161 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,400 Especially because, like we've said, our goal is to be positive 162 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,320 and excited and happy. And so then we feel even more so 163 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,280 that we want to be very clear. Clear, yes, and transparent. 164 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,720 So we've added a page to our website. 165 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Our website is this watchlife.com, a little bit 166 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,320 behind on on episodes on there. Wait, it's very sweet that you 167 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,960 said we vu did it all, wrote it all, read it to me aloud as I 168 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 edited it when I was in Florida. Well, you. 169 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,480 You didn't seem to want to read it, so you gave me. 170 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,440 I read it to you and you gave me. 171 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,120 I just. Appreciate that you did the 172 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,120 royal we we added. A section. 173 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,440 We added a section. I signed off. 174 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,520 It is. So if you go to 175 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 thiswatchlife.com, it's right at the top. 176 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,840 You can click the word transparency and. 177 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,760 Very clear. Yeah, It seemed like a single 178 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,600 word that kind of sums up what we're trying to do. 179 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Might change it in the future because it's not an attractive 180 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,600 word. But for now, it says 181 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,320 transparency. And I want to say upfront, like 182 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,320 this is really important. This is what we consider like, 183 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,520 this is a start. Yeah, this is not a finished 184 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,160 product. This isn't what we think is like 185 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,680 the absolute best way. The only way none of that what 186 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:12,040 we wanted to do was like we thought about what would we like 187 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,600 to see from other channels or other brands, like when they're 188 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,720 talking about something like what, what would we want from 189 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,840 them? And then thought like, OK, well 190 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,560 then why don't we offer that to our listeners or followers of 191 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,200 our Instagram or whoever it is, right? 192 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,360 And so this is start, this is where we're starting and and we 193 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,800 are going to ask for feedback on that. 194 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,200 Like we'd love to hear what people think about that. 195 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,760 So we on the page, you can go check it out. 196 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,360 It's kind of text heavy, but. But I mean, that is how you 197 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,520 disclose things. That's how. 198 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,280 You disclose things. It would be weird if it was like 199 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,520 one word. For each brand. 200 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,360 You're like. No. 201 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:58,760 So we listed our relationships to all the watch industry brands 202 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,520 that we feel like we have any kind of relationship with, 203 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,480 right. So like, back in that episode, 204 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:12,320 we had talked about like, what we wanted to see was like, how 205 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,080 do those relationships exist between brands and influencers 206 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,840 or creators or whoever? And so that's exactly the 207 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,520 approach we took here. Yeah. 208 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,000 Could I borrow this? Could. 209 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Did I ask to borrow? Did you ask me if I want to, you 210 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,000 know, like, do I? Don't think there's people. 211 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,360 Are you paying me? It's all of these different 212 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,400 things where it's just, and we should say also, none of those 213 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,760 things are bad for anyone who is a creator, journalist, 214 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,120 influencer. However, no, no, it's more of 215 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,280 just being able to tell what it is exactly, you know? 216 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,640 These relationships, they exist. Relationships are going to 217 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,240 exist. And then you. 218 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,600 Understand the lens that we are looking through. 219 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,280 As we talk about right, so like consider this a baseline of what 220 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,840 we right now think we should do and what we'd like to see others 221 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,320 do maybe in the future. And it's part of it is based a 222 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,520 little bit on. So years and years and years 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,840 ago, over a decade ago, my brother and I, our business was, 224 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,440 I wasn't as good at naming businesses back then. 225 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,640 We called ourselves the Bowie Brothers. 226 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,720 That was our business, OK. And because we were brothers, 227 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,200 but we still are. We still be. 228 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,880 There it turns out. Turns out that doesn't expire. 229 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,600 You know what? The name works and the name 230 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,800 works forever. We are the Bowie brothers. 231 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,520 But so many years ago, before I had ever heard the term 232 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,440 influencer, right? I don't think it had ever been 233 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,440 used in the way that it's used today, right? 234 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,680 But before that was like a common industry term and but, 235 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,120 but at this point, companies had already started, started 236 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,800 realizing like it was a good idea to get their gear into the 237 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,280 hands of the people who are making various types of online 238 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,120 content. You know, my brother and I made 239 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,640 various types of online content. So like, OK, we've mentioned 240 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 this before. We're not a review podcast. 241 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,800 We don't see our role as like finding the good, the bad and 242 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,120 the ugly and the watches we talk about. 243 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,800 We're not looking to uncover like hidden flaws or watches to 244 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,320 avoid. We're almost the opposite, like 245 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,120 what we are like. Love you, love you. 246 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:19,600 But, but, but it's not that we talk about how we love every 247 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,520 watch. It's. 248 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,880 That we only talk about the watches we love. 249 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,200 Yeah. Like that's kind of the point is 250 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,200 like what we're here to do is talk. 251 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,480 About things we like now. Yeah. 252 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,440 Is love. Sweet love. 253 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,840 But so we want that to be transparent, right? 254 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,120 And so like, if I think about cameras and, and what my brother 255 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,200 and I used to do, right, like I've owned so many different, 256 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,080 different cameras, but back then, like some camera companies 257 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,560 would send my brother and I gear and again, there were no rules. 258 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,200 There were not even guidelines back then. 259 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,160 No one knew what was going on. But the. 260 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Wild, Wild West. But what we told the these 261 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,080 different companies that would send us stuff is like, look, 262 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,080 here's the way we like to do things, right #1 we'll never 263 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,760 agree. Like you send me something and 264 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,440 we have an obligation to do anything, right? 265 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,400 Like that's, that's just not how we would never want it to be 266 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,640 obligated to write A blog post, make a video, none of that kind 267 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,240 unless. You were actually working for 268 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,440 them. That's different. 269 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Send us gear then. There's no obligation, right? 270 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,520 And also, if we don't like it, we're just going to send it back 271 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,520 to you and we're not going to talk about it. 272 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,400 And that's kind of, I feel like partly how we think of things 273 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,880 today is that we're only really interested in talking about 274 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,800 things that we like. Yes, right. 275 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,000 And what we're never interested in is talking is just saying we 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,560 like things that we don't really like. 277 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,320 I'm honestly, I'm Vu has said this many times. 278 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:59,600 I'm not that good of an actor. I just, you know, my nose will 279 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,600 just scrunch. Yeah, yeah, even if. 280 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,400 You can't. You can't. 281 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,080 See it? You might. 282 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,280 You'll hear. You'll hear. 283 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,440 It Lydia ever sounds super nasally. 284 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,200 No, no, now we're going to make now we're no, but but, but the 285 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:15,720 other part I want to talk about is like we like biases exist, 286 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,160 right? Like we have, we all have 287 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,480 constantly we're biased against or towards things. 288 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,720 And to use cameras again, as an example, like I've owned so many 289 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,920 cameras. I've owned Canons, Nikons, 290 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,320 Leica's Contacts, Mamia, I, I've owned cameras that the companies 291 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,600 don't even exist anymore, right? Because I've, I've been. 292 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,120 Fertile. Well, OK, OK, that's the. 293 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,520 Cart and the horse you don't have to took you to the camera. 294 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,600 But anyway, my first ever like what I considered serious 295 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,960 cameras right in like 1995 ish. It was a Canon right? 296 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,800 A little Canon SLR film right? Started in film and I mostly 297 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,880 used Canon for like a decade. Yeah. 298 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,600 And, and transitioned into digital with Canon, right? 299 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,720 So when DSLR came out, it was Canon. 300 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,920 So I will always have a soft spot for Canon. 301 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,160 But even back when my brother and I were being sponsored by 302 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,480 different companies and being given cameras, like we were 303 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,800 given Nikon cameras and Panasonic cameras and all kinds 304 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,800 of different gear, Canon never gave us anything, right? 305 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,600 And so, but still, because I used Canon for the whole 306 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:28,000 beginning of my photographic journey, like I will always have 307 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,920 a soft spot for Canon and but I have no relationship even no. 308 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Transparency page relationship. No relationship at all with Sony 309 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,120 right? Like I've never owned a Sony. 310 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,720 It's like one of the very few camera systems I never got into. 311 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,800 So if someone today handed me a brand new Canon and a brand new 312 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Sony, I will like the Canon more instantly. 313 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,800 I'm more. Used to it, I'm I'm I have more 314 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,760 affinity for the name, the brand, right? 315 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,600 That's a bias that exists. But that can be so that also is 316 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,040 a lot of times like family held, you know, like, is there a 317 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,880 brand? It's why I love Rolex. 318 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,800 My dad loved Rolex. It took me a long time to be 319 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,520 able to buy a car that wasn't a Honda because my dad was like, 320 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,400 no, Hondas are the best. And it took me a very, very, 321 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,000 very long time to kind of break free of that. 322 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,920 He used to like it was down to the point where 'cause he was 323 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,680 like the only laundry detergent you should ever. 324 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,599 Buy Oh yeah, you were very much when we got when we moved to 325 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:25,599 Sweden, who was like, where's the there's no. 326 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,480 Tide how could I wash clothes? Clothes. 327 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,880 My clothes will not be cleaned. They can't be cleaned. 328 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:32,320 It's impossible. I was like, whoa. 329 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,760 Right. So, OK, So what we're trying to 330 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,760 say is like, there's all these influences. 331 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,360 Well, advertising brand, yeah. You know that. 332 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,000 Stuff right they. Influence us all differently, 333 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,400 but also we have our own personal preferences. 334 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,840 So it's not just about biases, it's about preferences. 335 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,640 It's also circumstances. We need different things in 336 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,240 watches. Not all of us are running around 337 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,840 pulling kids out of wells every day, right? 338 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,800 So you need different watches. Right, exactly. 339 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,720 I'm not all of. These different things, 340 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,120 including the relationships you have directly with brands add up 341 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,680 to how you're going to experience a product. 342 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,360 And So what we're trying to do here is just be as transparent 343 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:15,720 as we can without it being because I do think that 344 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,600 sometimes there can't, there is information overload. 345 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,000 So it's like trying to find that balance of, you know, what makes 346 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,720 sense, Like what's a common sense approach to this? 347 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Yeah. So V1 is out there now. 348 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Yeah. And we're excited to see if you 349 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,440 think it's the common sense approach or? 350 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Yeah, please. Tell us. 351 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,360 Let us know. Oh. 352 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,800 Yeah, there's a contact page, you can just tell us that. 353 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:44,600 Bye everyone, bye.