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It's episode 6 of this. 
Watch live. 

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Hi, I'm Lydia. 
Winters and I am Voo Bowie. 

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And I got to sleep in all 
weekend, so I'd say I'm 

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refreshed, but I'm not. 
I'm very tired. 

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It was kind of weird to record 
for five days straight and then 

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just not record for two days. 
Yeah, we missed you all. 

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Yeah, we're excited to be back 
and today we. 

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Had a good weekend. 
Today with a hot topic. 

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A hot hot topic. 
Yeah, a topic so controversial. 

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SO0 Stakes so high drama. 
High Drama 0 Stakes Lydia's 

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favorite Type. 
Of drama it is. 

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Well, let me set the stage. 
It was a Friday afternoon. 

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I opened my personal inbox to 
see a new Box and papers, which 

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is a newsletter I subscribe to 
from Cam Wolf who's a senior 

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style editor at GQ. 
And it was talking about 

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something that I knew would spin
Boo's head around and around. 

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And I was like, we must talk 
about this. 

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The article is titled Why True 
Watch Heads Never Set the Time 

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on Their Watches. 
Is That I? 

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Have issue with multiple things 
about this title. 

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I don't know Cam. 
I know you've spoken with Cam. 

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You said he's a great guy. 
You've been on his newsletter. 

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I don't know Cam. 
I only know him. 

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It's meant to. 
It's meant to provoke and and 

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also let's show some of what Cam
says here. 

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So he says. 
When I shared this quirk about 

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not setting the time with two 
editors here at GQ last month, 

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they were aghast leaving 1:00, 
so concerned that he messaged 

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me. 
I'm afraid to ask, but can you 

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tell the time I can? 
He says. 

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So I so I set out on a mission 
driven by the purest of 

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intentions, vindication and the 
ability to say I told you so. 

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And he also talks about this 
whole thing kicked off from 

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seeing a video by Mike Nouveau, 
who is a vintage watch dealer. 

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He's doing a lot of tik toks, 
and he interviewed Cartier 

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Ambassador, who is a YouTube 
fashion icon, Emma Chamberlain. 

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And neither of them had their 
cartiers set to the right time. 

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OK, Vu, you're unleashed. 
Go. 

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I have a different take. 
So this is VU versus Lydia. 

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I want to be clear. 
People do whatever they want. 

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That is true. 
Like I am not saying it. 

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Is your watch. 
Yeah. 

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It's your watch wear how you 
want wear multiple watches I 

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double wrist who am I to talk 
about like oh you should follow 

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the rules right. 
So I think people should do 

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whatever they want. 
That said, you don't it's more 

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it's not that I think you're 
doing it wrong. 

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It's that I actually don't 
understand it. 

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I cannot understand it it and 
it's it's because OK, so if you 

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read the article, which I I 
suggest everyone do this, 

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whether you're on Lydia's side 
or on my side, read the article 

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there, there's all kinds of good
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And I I actually there were two 
points that I thought were 

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really, really compelling. 
Well, should we start, I think, 

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with our personal view, like 
what we personally do? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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OK, so every time I have a watch
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second. 
But. 

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To the. 
I'd just like to repeat that to 

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the second, yeah. 
But not all of my watches are 

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accurate enough to stay to the 
second, you know, for multiple 

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days in a row. 
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And if I wear a watch, let's say
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5 seconds, I allow it. 
Oh, yes, I will allow. 

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You're OK, little watch. 
I don't. 

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I don't. 
I'm not like, oh OK, I need to 

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fix this because it's 5 seconds 
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However, I change watches almost
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just set it to the second. 
Why wouldn't you? 

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What would you like? 
Name that genre of person who 

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sets it to the second? 
I don't. 

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Know like, decent. 
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OK, decent. 
Decent humans. 

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I'm going to say that my My 
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Loosey Goosey. 
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You know, I I do set the time, 
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set every time I think it's more
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60. 
It's probably like I would say 

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88% of the time that might. 
Be pretty. 

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Accurate. 
Pretty accurate. 

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I think 'cause I don't. 
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That feels pretty accurate. 
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I think a lot of times one of 
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take a photo and then I set the 
watch to 10/10, which is a great

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way to show off like the happy 
face of a watch with the the 

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hands pointing up. 
Then I put my watch back on and 

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like hours later I'm like it's 
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I'm like no it's the night time.
Like it doesn't it just doesn't 

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make any sense and I just throw 
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So that happens quite a bit to 
me, I. 

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Also set my watches to 10/10 
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Them, but then you just reset 
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To the second, I think. 
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setting the time, might as well 
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It does cost about a minute 
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Yeah, mine cost no minutes 
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usually. 
But it it it takes a minute. 

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But OK, I think that that time 
that you spend setting your 

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watch, aside from the fact that 
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being on you all day, that time 
that you spend setting your 

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watch and you're like waiting 
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around and then you stop it. 
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second hand on whatever your 
reference time is, and then you 

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click it and you wind the crown 
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Like, to me, that's like a fun 
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spend interacting with the 
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He's a romantic. 
I I just think that. 

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But also, you're dead to him if 
you don't say you're watching. 

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No, no. 
People can do it. 

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I will not hold it against them.
I don't think if you don't set 

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the time it makes you like some 
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No, I think in the article one 
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people talk about like JJ Owens 
who has Daily Grail and has been

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in watches for years, it's like 
that she sees them as an object 

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like of art style. 
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thing and like that's its 
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could just have a digital watch.
And I will say, I am a little 

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less concerned about the time on
my wrist because I do have the 

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Apple Watch on the other wrist 
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And when I look for the time, 
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I don't even understand. 
That when I want beauty, I turn 

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to the left wrist where there is
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when I just need a quick, 
accurate time, that's not off by

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5 to 3 hours. 
But you've only been wearing an 

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Apple Watch for a year. 
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got my. 
Excuse it. 

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Before, Probably my phone. 
Probably just my phone. 

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Just your phone. 
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keeps it very accurate on my 
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an Apple Watch on my other 
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Watch for the time. 
It's not enjoyable to look at 

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that one for the time. 
So I am trained to look at my 

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left wrist for the time. 
That is just what happens. 

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I raise my left wrist. 
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is. 
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OK, is there anything you can 
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goosey's? 
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I agree that people should be 
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they want. 
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Course, I do think there are two
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reasons to not set your watch. 
One, and this was mentioned in 

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the article Watches That Are 
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You know, either you don't have 
the money to repair it, or maybe

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you know, for some vintage 
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Find the parts. 
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being with the the repair person
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And you could have just worn it 
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If it's a watch you love and and
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jewelry, that's totally valid, 
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And the only other thing I could
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is if you don't care about the 
time, which is totally valid. 

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Some people they're like why do 
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At least you know I need to know
if it's day or night, you know I

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need to know when I should go to
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But some people are are 
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where like, minutes don't matter
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Whereas I use my watch all day. 
I I need to know what time I 

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need to get to a meeting. 
I need to know what mainly 

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actually. 
That's, yeah, you're like, 

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that's that's full stop. 
Period. 

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That's it. 
That is the the main thing. 

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I mean, I do use it when I'm 
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timing, other things, but mainly
I need to know what time I need 

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to be at meetings, which is also
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second because I never want to 
be early and also do not want to

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be late. 
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So you said something and I want
to circle back on it. 

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If you don't set the time on 
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even just for a few hours let's 
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Is it jewelry then? 
I mean, I think it's jewelry 

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either way. 
Yes, but is it more jewelry than

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a watch? 
Then yeah, I I. 

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So I the watch can have a 
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It is what they were designed 
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But we don't need watches 
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Like that. 
That has been proven by the fact

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that most people don't wear 
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like they're not all dying on 
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own watches. 
We don't need watches. 

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To me, the part I don't 
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watch on your wrist, why not use
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To me, flipping the wrist to see
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digging from my phone, which is 
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That takes more time, more 
effort, and is more obvious O if

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I'm in a meeting, it's way worse
to pull out the phone to look at

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the time than to just. 
Slide it over, you know just. 

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Glance at the watch. 
I'm just admiring the beauty. 

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I it's not that I want to get 
out of this meeting. 

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No, I'm just looking at this 
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Jewelry. 
I'm just. 

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Looking at my jewelry. 
I was thinking about this 

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because I was like, well OK, but
the watch still could. 

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If it's a functional watch, it 
does still function as a watch. 

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But then I thought about if I 
took that further and I said, 

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you know, can I run? 
Yes. 

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Am IA runner? 
No. 

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Like as a person if I'm not 
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they they are capable of it. 
So, but I wouldn't say I'm a 

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runner. 
Would that be similar to wearing

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a watch that is not set? 
No, I know I I I I-100. 

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Percent disagree with that. 
Instead, I say this reminds me 

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of I've seen this meme a bunch 
of times because it's been 

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recreated many times, because it
seems to always happen at 

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American baseball games. 
There's some dude and it's a 

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sunny day at the baseball game 
and he's wearing a baseball cap,

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but he's got it on backwards and
he's using something, either his

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hand or one guy with this big 
piece of cardboard to provide 

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shade for his eyes. 
He is wearing a device that was 

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designed to shade your eyes from
the sun, but he has it on 

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backwards and so he needs to put
his hand there to shade his 

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eyes. 
That's not the same. 

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At all. 
No, because I have a digital 

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watch that's more accurate. 
But you don't always. 

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Yeah, but if. 
I only had it for a year, so you

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already were not setting the 
tide before that. 

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So to me, it's just the part 
that I cannot get on board with 

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in terms of understanding is if 
you already have the watch and 

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you like watches, so it 
shouldn't be something you hate 

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to just turn it, you know, like 
just, you know, spend one to two

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minutes setting the time. 
I don't understand why you 

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wouldn't just do that so you can
have the time. 

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Well, if people want to do that,
that's fine. 

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They are free to be just beyond 
my comprehension and that is. 

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OK, well luckily for you, in the
article there was someone who we

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know and love, Perry Dash, who 
is one of the founders of Risk 

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Check Pod and he says I always 
set the time. 

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And I completely thank you, 
Perry, for being the one voice 

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of reason in this whole article.
When I was trying to look up 

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things about this, first of all 
I went down a really long like 

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watch you seek and that was very
clearly not on team Loosey 

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goosey. 
But I also found this what I can

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only say is a rumor because I 
could like it really seems like 

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a rumor and I'm not even sure 
how it would work but I thought 

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it was so funny that I wanted to
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So Mike McDonald McDaniel, I 
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the head coach of the Miami 
Dolphins and he when he got the 

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job, he went out and he bought a
Rose Gold Breitling Navi timer. 

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The 1952 Quantum Quantum. 
Yeah, perpetual. 

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So like a gorgeous watch. 
He then put like a gold bracelet

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on it. 
Not sure where that where that 

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came from exactly. 
It gave it its own look. 

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It's like this very iconically 
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football community. 
And the rumor is, but again 

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could not confirm, that it is 
set to 2:46 PM and does not 

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change because that is the time 
he got the call from the Miami 

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Dolphins owner for the job. 
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really interesting, weird thing 
to think about if you used it as

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a piece of jewelry that 
symbolized a specific time. 

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Again, date and year. 
Exactly. 

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That's kind of cool, right? 
It's actually. 

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I tried to, I tried to zoom in 
on so many images of him to look

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at the time and then I was like 
I OK, I. 

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You couldn't find a. 
Good example. 

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I found one that did look like 
it was that time, but I found 

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other ones that didn't it. 
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It's like a TikTok rumor, but I 
liked it because it felt cool to

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think about if it was, yeah, 
symbolic fully, cause a lot of 

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people do buy a watch for a 
special occasion. 

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And then, you know, Mike 
McDaniel was like, oh, I'll see 

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your submariner for your 
daughter's birth. 

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And I will go with a full 
perpetual calendar marking the 

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exact date. 
Time. 

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Minute. 
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I I I think there's something 
really cool, yeah. 

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I thought it was kind of cool. 
Because the romanticism of that 

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Trump's the romanticism of 
setting your watch every day. 

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That's true. 
Well, with that we would love to

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know what you think. 
Are you a decent person on the 

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side? 
Of a little. 

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Bit Are you a little more, a 
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Loosey goosey like me? 
Are you all the way over to just

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like, wearing it? 
Whatever. 

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I could guess where we're going 
to be on the scale today, but 

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we'd love your thoughts and have
a great day. 

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Yeah, a wonderful. 
Day A wonderful day. 

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You are decent even if your 
watch is not set to the second 

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by. 
Everyone who's listening more 

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than decent. 
More than decent. 

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More than you. 
Are more than decent. 

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Bye, bye.
