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Welcome to this Watch live. 
Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 

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And I'm Boo Booey and it's 
episode 1909. 90. 90 That it's 

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kind of incredible. 
I don't know how we got here. 

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We are two weeks away from our 
100th episode, and as the little

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planner that I am, I have been 
thinking about what to do to 

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celebrate 100 episodes. 
And the podcast. 

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No, no, that's terrible. 
Oh my gosh, we're not ending. 

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It we're not ending No, no, no, 
we're not ending podcast. 

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OK no. 
I've been thinking about how we 

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could make like 100 Club like, 
so if you've listened to all 100

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episodes that's why I'm I'm I 
was a former teacher so I'm 

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giving you two weeks to have to 
make up your assignments if. 

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You've missed. 
Any and then I was thinking 

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about sending out little cards 
to everyone who is in the 100 

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Club. 
That sounds super fun. 

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I think that's awesome. 
I'm going to use a very high 

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tech software thingy that can 
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people are lying. 
There there's no way. 

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This is the honor system and. 
Also but I have. 

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Like with this, I have like a 
tiny bit of bad news for you. 

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For Wait for me or for our 
listeners. 

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No, you Boo. 
Oh no. 

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You haven't done 100 episodes of
this podcast. 

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Wait, what? 
Because the Mindy. 

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Episode with only Mindy and me. 
Well then I guess I'm going to 

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have to do an episode without 
you next week, and then we have 

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to do 101. 
No, wait, 101 Dalmatian. 100 

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Club is Have you listened to 100
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So yeah. 
OK. 

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Yeah. 
Because you always try back on 

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the sound. 
So fair, Fair enough. 

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Fair enough. 
So if you want to be part of the

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100 Club, or maybe you will soon
already be on in two weeks we're

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going to open it up for 
addresses and I will send you 

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something in the mail. 
In snail mail. 

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I love it. 
I love. 

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Making hearts real. 
Things can touch and feel like 

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watches. 
Swizz, Mamba asks. 

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Arabic numerals, Roman numerals,
or no numerals? 

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And why? 
OK, first of all, I absolutely 

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love this question because I 
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Like I haven't really stopped to
think about it. 

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And so we have our Arabic 
numerals, that's 0123456789. 

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Those are the numbers that are 
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older Indian numbering system 
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Europeans from Arab sources, 
hence the name Arabic numerals. 

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I realized I I very much like 
watches with Arabic numerals. 

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Me too. 
I didn't ever call them Arabic 

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numerals until I got into the 
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I was like, what is everyone 
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You mean numbers? 
I was. 

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Genuinely like. 
What I was actually confused, 

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but I was thinking about this 
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this, the fat like a subsect of 
that is bregae numerals and so 

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that's that more like, you know,
they still are Arabic numerals 

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in a bregae style. 
So I like that kind of, you 

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know, like there's many 
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But are BREGAE numerals a 
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typeface? 
I think it's a style of 

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typeface. 
I don't think it's a specific 

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like this is. 
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tiny bit. 
No, I have. 

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I'm. 
I'm going to say that it's not a

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specific font because you have 
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the Noya Yahida, the NH Type 1D,
which has these beautiful 

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breaking numerals and they're 
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But I don't have any. 
I have no watch. 

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I believe I have no watches with
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We each checked each other's 
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Is that correct, Phil? 
I didn't check for bregae 

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numerals that. 
Wasn't part of the great. 

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I don't have it. 
I don't have. 

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It. 
I don't think you do. 

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Neither of us do. 
No, I know I don't and I don't 

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think you do. 
I have looked at that launching 

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master collection, the new one 
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39mm salmon dial with the 
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Really beautiful. 
But I did not buy it, I just 

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looked at it. 
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Roman numerals. 
So Roman numerals are a numeral 

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system that originated in 
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usual way of writing numbers 
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late Middle Ages. 
The numbers are written with 

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combinations of letters from the
Latin alphabet, each letter with

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a fixed integer value. 
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notations IV and IX can be read 
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less than 10. 
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found interesting is, although 
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representation of four as four 
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So that's something fun too, 
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And that has made its way into 
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Well into watches, yeah. 
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I've seen it done both ways, so.
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So I really like a lot of 
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weighting of having four eyes as
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It can feel very heavy, but it 
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opposite way with the I and the 
V So yes, I also never knew that

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about the Latin alphabet. 
So I've learned a lot just from 

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this question. 
Thank you. 

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So it's Mama, this one again. 
I'm still thinking about Akita 

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because I will be going to see 
them for their trunk show 

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tomorrow are. 
You excited like how do you 

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feel? 
About it I get to I get to meet 

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him. 
I get to meet Mark Cho. 

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I get to see all the watches, 
see new released watches. 

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I don't know how many they're 
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been seeing some little teasers 
on their Instagram. 

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I'm very, very excited and one 
that has Roman numerals. 

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Another one I'm interested in is
the type 3A moon phase and it 

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has the Roman numerals and so I 
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Both the Brega and the Roman 
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That's true, but I really. 
Like the Arabic one. 

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So maybe I'll be. 
Maybe I'll just. 

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Go I kind of want to take the 
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case four and put them together.
Get out it you. 

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Stop making your your little 
hybrid babies. 

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Can you ask Mr. Hida if he can 
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Absolutely will not. 
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be rejected immediately. 
OK And then the last one, just 

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we're just going through them 
first, Arabic, Roman and no 

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numerals. 
So that would be a lot of times 

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you could have indices or you 
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So like, I have the Bachelor on 
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Tank Moose, and both of them. 
There's nothing on there. 

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They're just a plain dial, which
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cannot tell the time. 
The other day I'm letting my mom

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wear my basher on Harmony and I 
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the date dress while my dad 
continues through his treatment.

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And I my mom's like, you set 
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thought only two minutes slow. 
I was so proud of myself. 

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I'm pretty sure when there's no 
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typically very. 
Loosey goosey. 

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Yes, very loosey goosey. 
She did set it to be the precise

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time. 
She is a VU. 

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That is the way to be. 
But then I was reading a 

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crowning caliber article and 
it's not just like so you have 

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no numerals, completely clean, 
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stick indices, you have round 
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markers, baton indices, which 
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little more wide than the stick 
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And also that gives them space 
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And then also you have an error 
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another type of, you know, kind 
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that's paired with, you know, 
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you know, so then. 
Oh, go go ahead. 

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I I was just going to say, like 
I never thought about it. 

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But I realize now one of the 
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campus style is that it has all 
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It has all three exactly. 
I I never thought of it because 

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I always kind of just thought of
it as having Roman and Arabic, 

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but the fact is it it doesn't. 
It also has sticks for the odd 

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numbers on the dials, which is 
pretty cool. 

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Known as a California dial. 
But when Nomos does it, they're 

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inverting it. 
And then they call it a 

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bilingual dial, which is then 
even better when we talk about 

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this language lesson today, 
Language and numbers. 

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Oh my gosh. 
Lydia, learn something. 

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Maybe a listener will learn 
something. 

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Listening to this podcast 
tonight. 

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I'm learning a lot going through
this. 

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OK, so then when I decided is 
that VU would look at my 

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collection, well OK first I 
guess to answer the question. 

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Arabic numerals, Roman numerals 
or no numerals and why? 

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Do you have a thought on that 
before I say what your 

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collection actually looks like? 
No. 

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What do you mean? 
Do I have a thought? 

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Well, no. 
I mean, do you have one you 

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think you prefer? 
Oh yeah, I mean, if you ask me, 

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I prefer Arabic. 
Oh, yes, yeah, I. 

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Prefer Arabic. 
I love them. 

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I like the look of them. 
I I talk about them like, yeah, 

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yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
So I was going to say that I 

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would say no numerals for me. 
OK. 

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Like that I. 
You prefer no numerals or you 

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see? 
So there's two different 

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questions here. 
Is it? 

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What do we think we prefer, or 
what do we think we own the most

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of? 
What I think I prefer is no 

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numerals. 
And then what I think I own the 

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most of is no numerals. 
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think so you said you prefer 
Arabic numerals and that is 

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absolutely when. 
I have done. 

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When I have done the list, that 
is absolutely incorrect. 

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No, but I no. 
I I prefer Arabic numerals, but 

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the watches that I like don't 
have them. 

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It's not the only criteria for 
choosing a watch. 

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So although I love Arabic 
numerals on a dial, it doesn't 

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work on every dial and it 
doesn't work on every watch that

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I want. 
So no, if you ask me what I have

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the most of, I would also say 
none. 

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So for you, 71% of your 
collection is no. 

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Yes, that's what I thought. 25% 
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Roman. 
OK. 

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I actually, I think I would have
thought of that. 

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I didn't do yours in percentage.
It's a bit of more loosey, 

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goosey. 
There's just a lot of circles 

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that say things like stick and 
no. 

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OK, well, we know that I have 
mostly no numerals. 

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You have mostly no numerals, 
however you the one that's most 

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you have two Arabic one is the 
Tetra with the mix and one is 

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the Murph and then the club or I
guess 3 cause the club campus 

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has everything. 
But the thing I thought was most

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interesting is once I got down 
into like the subsets of the no 

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numerals you prefer round 
indices with an arrow marker at 

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12. 
I don't think it's that I prefer

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those, it's that I own them and 
it's because I own a lot of 

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tutor. 
You do, you do and the GMT. 

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Is also the same. 
Actually, yeah. 

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So my tutor and Rolex. 
The Oris Momotaro is also the 

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same, so you actually like a 
bulk of your collection is 

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circle indices with the arrow 
marker. 

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On the 12th. 
The most of mine are the baton 

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indices because I love O PS. 
That is true. 

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That is absolutely true. 
I loved this question. 

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I would really like to know what
what make up all of you have 

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because I think it's just really
fun like it it was just really 

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fun to go through. 
Yeah, and think about it and vu 

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you definitely need some more 
Arabic numeral. 

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Yes, I do. 
I really, really do. 

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I'm gonna work on that, OK? 
Yordi Nunez asks. 

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I'm trying to save for one of my
favorite watches, but on the way

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to it lots of amazing watches 
appear, some too sweet and less 

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expensive that make my saving 
time very very difficult. 

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How do you manage and then said 
by the way, and it's an image of

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ABB 58. 
ABB 54. 

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Oh, is it a 54? 
Yeah. 

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Well. 
That's a 54. 

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That's why it's too. 
Tiny, OK, we're the worst people

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to ask this question. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah, because I'm just like. 
I don't have patience or or 

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discipline. 
No patience and discipline. 

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Neither of those are skill. 
Like I think this. 

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Is not unique to us, though. 
This is the flight of the watch 

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enthusiast. 
There's always interesting but 

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more attainable things along the
road to your big goals. 

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Yes, there absolutely is. 
They're like, oh, but this is 

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great. 
I think it's that you have to 

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start thinking about how far is 
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when you take these little 
detours, do like how much time 

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do they add? 
That's what I've been trying to 

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think about. 
I think absolutely not doing it 

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though. 
No, but OK, So there is also 

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another way to think about this,
but there's a danger to it. 

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OK. 
So one way to manage is if you 

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have, you have to keep the 
mindset that you do want this 

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big thing. 
Like you are moving towards this

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big thing. 
And you have to be careful with 

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the watches that you buy along 
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But you essentially could buy a 
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to your big goal, but you have 
to buy them at great prices that

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you can then later sell them 
for. 

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You know you can lose a little 
bit, but you don't want to lose 

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too much on them. 
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hand right? 
And then later you'll have a big

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old collection that is equal to 
the value of the big thing you 

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want and then you just have to 
sell them all to buy the big 

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thing. 
But the problem is, it's it's so

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it's kind of like saving money, 
right? 

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Like they become your your bank 
account, but you get to wear 

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them on the wrist. 
The problem is that if you fall 

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in love with any of them, that 
sets you back, right? 

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Because you won't want to sell 
them. 

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So that's true, it's more risky.
Also you could lose 1 or the 

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value could go way down. 
You know, like the it's a 

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riskier way to do it. 
But it is possible to move 

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towards your goal and still buy 
watches along the way, but you 

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just have to be willing to let 
them go at the end. 

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Yeah, I'm not really a letter 
goer, so I think. 

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That's what we know. 
Like hard for me to think about.

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You are now becoming a letter 
goer. 

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Yes, you have. 
Committed to culling the 

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collection and part of that will
move towards your nightly 

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heater. 
I sold VU the BB 54 that he then

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gave to me so that was great for
me and I sold Vern Watch studies

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the bracelet for my Cartier tank
moose so. 

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You're already doing well, I'm. 
Calling so much. 

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Just call in every day. 
The BB 54 I had wanted to buy 

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for you. 
You didn't let me and that's why

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I had to buy it from you to give
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present. 
Yes, but I will say I've been 

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thinking a lot about this 
because I have this Naya Ohita 

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that I'm very, very interested 
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And that would mean that I need 
to actually, you know, save up 

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for it and stop just casually 
just getting excited and buying 

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something which I have tried to 
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But I do think like my brother 
recently gave me for my 

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birthday, a 1987 Swatch, which 
is I love it so much. 

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It looks so cool on you. 
I got so much joy out of it. 

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Also, he's been listening to the
podcast too. 

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So hey Jeremy, I didn't realize 
you were in on this. 

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Also not a not a you know, a 
watch guy but has started 

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listening since Mindy and my 
episode. 

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So he hates you Boo. 
And this watch that he gave me. 

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I've been wearing it on my right
wrist instead of my left. 

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I've been wearing my Tudor Black
Bay 54 on this trip and wearing 

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this adorable 80s Swatch on my 
my first birth year watch on my 

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right wrist. 
And it has brought me so much 

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joy. 
And then I thought, a way to 

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still get the fun. 
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people might buy, you know, like
more eBay watches, less 

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expensive watches where you can 
spend 50 or $100 on something 

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vintage and fun and small and 
you get that, like excitement of

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a new watch, but you don't have 
to go all the way to wow, I 

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bought something huge and I'm so
far from my goal so that yeah, 

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that kind of opened my eyes 
because so much joy out of it. 

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Like happy when I look at it, 
happy when I hear it tick, happy

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when I like just a lot of 
happiness. 

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I I I agree with this. 
I I haven't bought a sub $100 

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watch in quite a while, but I 
realized not too long ago that I

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get almost the same joy out of a
very affordable watch as I do 

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out of a very expensive one. 
You know that that initial 

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feeling which does fade, but 
that initial feeling of I just 

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got a new watch. 
It is great even when it's just 

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something small and fun. 
So that is a good way to kind of

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quell those temptations but 
still get something out of it. 

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Absolutely. 
Well, if you're if you're a 

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better saver than us, then 
please, please give us some 

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advice. 
And. 

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And Jordy, oh wait, bye bye. 
Bye, bye. 

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Bye. 
Bye. 

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Bye. 
Bye. 

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Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. 
You can't do it when you're 

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remote. 
Bye. 

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Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. 
You're just randomly singing. 

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I'm trying. 
Bye everyone. 

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Bye everyone.
