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It's episode 5 of this Watch 
life. 

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Hi. 
I'm. 

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No, I can't. 
I'm Lydia Winters. 

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It's been a week. 
Not like it's been a week, but 

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like it's been a week. 
Yay. 

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Been a week. 
The good way to say that, and 

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today is our last day of looking
back into 2023. 

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I think once you get past the 
first week you should stop the 

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look. 
Backs. 

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I feel so. 
And so today our look back is 

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going to be some of our favorite
things, some emphasis on the 

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some a few of our favorite 
things. 

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These are a. 
Few of our. 

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Favorite. 
Things. 

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Are we? 
Going to say no and I am going 

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to start with the Cartier Benoit
Bengal that was released at 

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Watches and wonders this year. 
It's taking a design from the 

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early 1900s and just modernizing
it in this sleek, beautiful way 

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that really marries watchmaking 
and jewelry. 

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And I think this is something I 
saw as a trend this year. 

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It's not new. 
Cartier, Piaget, all of these 

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amazing brands have been doing 
it for a long time, but I feel 

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like this year they were noticed
more broadly in the community. 

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And that's the part I thought 
was really amazing because. 

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Oh, people were talking about. 
It yeah. 

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And I mean, Piaget put out the 
most incredible golden cuff. 

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I mean, this is their in their 
high jewelry line, limelight. 

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But it was reinterpreting cuff 
watches from the 1960s and 

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1970s, and you see this Oval 
dial just peeking out of the 

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cuff. 
Really cool. 

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And it's like the bracelet is 
growing over the case of the 

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dial and the dial is turquoise. 
So there's even more to say 

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about Stone dials this year, but
it just really I think 

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especially with the Cartier, 
with the Piaget and just seeing 

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these beautiful timepieces being
recognized for like the beauty 

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of them, I think that's just a 
nice trend in, in the industry. 

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Both of these watches are courts
and sometimes courts can be, you

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know, a bad word. 
And I think it's nice to see 

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these for their design where 
they're just their beauty as 

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like art objects. 
So that that's something I just,

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yeah, I just love them. 
And I really like that trend of 

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people more recognizing watches 
as jewelry. 

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So many people don't want to, I 
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you know, how do you define 
these things? 

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These aren't facts, but I do 
think there's a huge aesthetic 

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element to the majority of 
people's watch buying. 

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But for some reason that that's 
not the part they want to talk 

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about or admit to. 
And I think it's just that it's 

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not mutually exclusive. 
You can wear a Benoit bangle and

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you can wear it with a bunch of 
jewelry stacked and like that's 

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really great or you can wear a 
diver by itself and that's also 

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fine. 
Both are great choices. 

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And I just like that it felt, 
and I think this is, you know, 

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the trend I most liked this year
is obviously more women in 

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watches and just that will start
changing how the industry 

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behaves, how the community 
behaves, and I think that's 

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really exciting. 
OK, so my first favorite ish 

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thing. 
Favorite Ish. 

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It might sound weird, but it's 
it's actually the softening of 

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the secondary market like it's 
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years. 
It it was not unique to 2023, 

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but the ridiculous highs that we
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especially like the so-called 
hype. 

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Watches, like the most popular 
pieces out there, put them out 

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of reach for anyone who could 
not buy it at retail. 

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Yeah, that's true. 
And I as much fun as that can be

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for for people who already own 
the watches, like, oh, it's 

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worth so much. 
There's a downside to that too, 

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because it also brought so much 
more spotlight in a negative way

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to those watches. 
So a lot of people stopped 

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wearing their watches because 
they're like, well, now it's 

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worth too much now. 
Yeah, OK, I only paid $5000 for 

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this. 
I'd say only, but I paid $5000 

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for this. 
Then I could wear it on my 

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wrist, but now it's worth 20 and
now it doesn't feel comfortable 

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wearing that outside of the 
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That's sad. 
But then there's also that you. 

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I mean, as as watch enthusiasts,
we want people to be able to 

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have the watches they want. 
So to me, if they're more 

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affordable, that's great. 
The weird thing is though, at 

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the same time as the secondary 
prices coming down, the retail 

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prices are going up. 
So it's makes the secondary 

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market even a better option for 
for certain watches for certain 

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people, certain instances. 
But I I thought that was a 

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really good thing. 
You don't want to see it go down

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forever, but I I think it was 
just still needed some 

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correction for the. 
The over, Yeah. 

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The 2020, Yeah, Yeah. 
Well, 2020 was when it really 

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started, yes. 
But 22 is the 20 the March 22. 

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It was a a peak that. 
Yeah, yeah, that that probably 

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needed a a little bit of self 
correction and this this will 

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help. 
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Very different than softening of
the secondary market. 

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I'm going Barbie movie. 
The largest worldwide release in

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2023. 
The highest grossing film of 

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2023. 
The biggest Warner Brothers 

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movie ever? 
Which is pretty cool. 

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And we had like a very, like a 
significant watch moment in it, 

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which I it thought was really 
amazing. 

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It's not like a watch movie in 
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Interstellar was, and yet it had
multiple scenes that referenced 

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watches. 
Yes, and we had our amazing tag 

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Hoyer ambassador since October 
2021. 

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Ryan Gosling was playing Ken. 
I mean, I'm going to recap this 

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a little, but if you haven't 
heard of Ryan, well, if you 

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haven't heard of Barbie. 
Ryan Gosling being Ken, I don't 

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know. 
It's fine if you haven't seen 

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it, but these basic facts. 
But in the movie someone asks 

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him the time and he does not 
have a watch on and he realizes 

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what a powerful thing this is 
for someone to ask you that you 

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know do you have the time? 
And later on in the movie we see

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him with and not one. 
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Not 2. 
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Well, this is not. 
This is like a scene. 

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This is fine, but three Hoyer 
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And it was just so cool. 
I was lighting up in the theater

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like, Oh my gosh. 
And of course I was like, they 

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have to be. 
They have to be tag hoyers 

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because he's an ambassador. 
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It's a cool moment for watches 
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It's noticeable. 
Yeah, and I love that they went 

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with the Hoyer brand. 
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They didn't go straight for 
their newest models and make it 

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feel like, OK, this is really 
you know, then it gets a bit 

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more icky. 
It just feels like a fun moment 

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and it really, you know, I I've 
seen you wear 2 watches for 

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many, many years, an Apple Watch
and mechanical watch, and I even

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do it too, hidden under my 
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It's funny because you're like, 
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and I was like, well, you 
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A year ago. 
I'm not very pro it, so you'll 

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see one sleeve down all the time
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Will sometimes watch mechanical 
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I I just, I I think I was 
thinking about this. 

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They made a conscious decision 
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think it's because two wouldn't 
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anymore. 
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to go with an odd number. 
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design wise. 
So three is perfect. 

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Maybe they were also going to 
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because he was wearing 3. 
So yeah, if you haven't seen 

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Barbie, I don't know how that's 
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everyone has seen it, but go 
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It is a a fun movie, an 
important movie in certain ways,

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but for watch lovers like this 
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thing. 
Yeah, to be in the biggest movie

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of the year, this is very, very 
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OK, my next favorite ish thing 
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Yeah. 
OK, so Corona Tokyo is a brand 

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that I really love. 
It's a brand made by, for those 

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of you who don't know, Hajime 
Asaoka makes super high end 

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watches. 
Not exactly easy to get both 

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from a price perspective and the
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making these super high end 
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So I don't know how many watches
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don't know, but they're not very
attainable and the wait list is 

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like a decade long. 
So Key, like some other great 

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watchmakers made a more 
approachable brand where the 

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it's not only approachable from 
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although they sell out very 
quickly. 

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I wouldn't call them super 
available, but they've done 

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things to make sure that if you 
really want the watch, you 

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probably can get it as long as 
you can can be there at the 

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right time. 
And they released. 

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Well, it was announced in 22 it.
Was really we're too. 

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We're we're we're really looking
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Boo is bending the rules. 
OK, it didn't ship until 23 and 

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so it was the chronograph 1 mark
two and it's just a beautiful 

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watch. 
Link to the watch in the show 

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notes on our website 
thiswatchlife.com but it is a 

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salmon dial. 
But it's not actually a salmon 

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dial because it's meant to be 
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fermented Persimmon. 
Persimmon juice. 

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Yeah, yeah, it's it's a very. 
Conceptual thing, yes. 

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Very, very specific, but it's 
got a little more brown in it 

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than a typical salmon dial. 
It's not as rose Goldie and it's

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a 2 sub register chronograph. 
It's a thick baby, though it it 

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is, it is a thick watch, 
especially because it's only 

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38mm diameter. 
So then when you have like it's 

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like 13 1/2 millimeters thick. 
It seems even thicker, even 

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though 13 1/2 isn't ridiculously
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It just looks that way because 
it's not a big watch. 

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I just think it's a gorgeous 
design, but really I brought 

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this up because I think it's 
it's a great example of these 

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other watches kind of like MB 
and F releasing like the Mad one

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and and this more approachable 
series of watches or Sarpanava 

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releasing SUF Helsinki watches 
that are more approachable but 

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still incorporate some of what 
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desirable. 
Like whether it's design 

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elements or the thinking behind 
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But I so yeah, that watch. 
I don't own it yet. 

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I I missed out on that one. 
Don't know how I missed it, but 

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I will rectify this situation. 
I've been trying to find one 

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that the price isn't a little 
too ridiculous. 

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Oh, this goes with your 
softening secondary markets. 

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This is they weren't. 
Meant to be together, but now I 

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do realize that the the those 
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It all leads to Boo being able 
to buy a watch. 

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In 2024. 
Just one watch. 

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They were perfect. 
Yeah. 

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So I will get that. 
Watch. 

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OK. 
That is very cool. 

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And I do think that you know, 
because of the economic state of

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the world, we could see that 
more brands actually create that

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secondary, not secondary create 
that more accessible price point

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brand which is very. 
Cool. 

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I mean, a long, long time ago, 
that's what Tudor was. 

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And I think that and that wasn't
even the difference wasn't as 

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big as as what we're talking 
about here. 

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Here's like, oh, here's a 
$50,000 watch or a $2000 watch. 

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With Rolex and Tudor, that 
difference was less, but they do

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it in the car market. 
All these different brands have 

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lower cost alternative full on 
brands. 

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So yeah, it's good to see. 
OK. 

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And last but certainly and not 
least, I'm going to go with 

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joyful watches because we've had
a lot of colorful things. 

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But this year we had two watches
that I think symbolize. 

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I'm going to use symbols, 
graphics, images. 

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We had the Rolex Day date puzzle
with seven inspirational words 

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on the On the Day, the Day Wheel
and 31 emojis on. 

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You know, I'm looking at your. 
Face the date wheel. 

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Listeners, you can't see her 
face, but it doesn't actually 

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look. 
The the brows are the brows are 

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down. 
Look, I think it's experimental.

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It's fun, it's playful. 
It's interesting. 

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It's not for me, but I I like 
the idea idea behind it. 

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Now execution wise. 
The one that really got me 

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though in this sort of area is 
the ORAS Pro Pilot X Kermit. 

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The fact that they have this 
beautiful green dial, they have 

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the cool Pro Pilot design which 
is one of their newer designs 

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and. 
It looks very modern. 

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Looks very modern. 
And then you have this, the most

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entertaining feature that 
Kermit. 

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A little picture of Kermit 
appears on the 1st of every 

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month. 
Or is this calling it Kermit Day

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and you get this little 
cuteness? 

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I love that this gives you the 
choice of either having the date

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or you could always keep the 
Kermit there if you wanted. 

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Or you could, you know, use it 
only only on the 1st when it 

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comes in. 
But I just really think, you 

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know, it's turbulent times. 
Watches are still fun, and I 

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think we're going to see a lot 
more fun, playfulness, whimsical

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things in 2024. 
Wow. 

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Well, that's a great way to end 
things. 

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Yeah, more whimsical is what 
you're going to see from this 

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watch life. 
Playful fun. 

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And goodbye singing. 
It's the weekend it's. 

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The weekend. 
Have a great weekend everyone. 

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And I'm going to sleep in 
tomorrow. 

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Bye, bye.
