1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,680 Welcome to this watch LIFE. Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,600 And I'm Vu Bui, and you still sound a little under the 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,440 weather, but we're going to keep on trucking on. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,200 Oh keep on trucking on I. That's a little too much energy 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,680 for me. We are still doing our late 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,960 night podcast. 9:00 PM. Podcast What's wrong with? 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,400 It it is loosey goosey life over here. 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,759 This watch this this loosey goosey watch. 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:40,680 At Watch Medicine asks which dress watch from the Holy 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Trinity brands would you guys choose if you had the choice? 11 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:49,400 OK, well, first of all, for those of you who might not know, 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,080 the Holy Trinity brands are Patek Philippe yes, Vassarol and 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Konstantin yes, and Otamar Pigay. 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Yes, they are. Nothing sounds good the way I'm 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,880 saying it right now. It sounds a little extra. 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,960 A little. OK, like, but let let's be 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,760 clear. Like it doesn't really mean 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,800 anything. No, I mean Holy Trinity, I 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,000 believe it's really feels like it's enthusiast driven this 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,600 naming convention. It's kind of like the older yes 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,120 manufacturers who have a lot of notoriety. 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,160 Yes, but it's funny. So it's not the oldest 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,480 manufacturer. No, no, no. 24 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,960 And it's not even the ones with the most notoriety. 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:41,760 You know, it's just like these three that the overtime or at 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,320 some point in time were chosen as like, Oh yeah, this is the 27 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:51,320 so-called Holy Trinity. Yeah, the big, the big three. 28 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,160 The big yeah, the big three. I mean, they are huge names in 29 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,880 watchmaking. I would say though that you 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,320 know, as much as I love Vasharan, I think if you asked 31 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,720 the average person they would know Patek first, then AP, and 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,080 then almost no one would know Vasharan. 33 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Average. Person and that's because both 34 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Patek and AP are in pop songs and hip hop songs and in 35 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:26,960 cultural references in movies and TV shows. 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,840 You know Patek like they're out there, right? 37 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:37,520 AP also a bit, but Vasharan not not right now. 38 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,080 It we're not in their moment right now in terms of a wider 39 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,040 recognition. So it makes it hard to call them 40 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,480 the Holy Trinity. Maybe they're the Holy Trinity 41 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,200 of watch enthusiasts. Well, but I again, it's kind of 42 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,320 like, are they? I think there's a there's a 43 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,680 great article by Fratello from only from June this year. 44 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,600 And it's talking about like, is it time to revise the Holy 45 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,120 Trinity of watchmaking? And it's still a really hotly 46 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,520 debated yeah topic, which makes which makes it fun. 47 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Yeah, but for the sake of this question. 48 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Well, for one thing, I object to even just the whole religious 49 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Holy Trinity naming of things. OK, because that doesn't always 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,240 fit everyone anyway. Yes, but we're going to take 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,600 this at face value because we're going to do it. 52 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,320 The question was asked in good faith. 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Which was not What do you think of the holy Christ? 54 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,920 It's like, here's an easy way to say that's to. 55 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:35,200 Be fair. OK, OK. 56 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,960 You're going first. This is not surprising that 57 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,040 boo's like, well, first of all, your question, no. 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,960 No, I'm not saying the question is wrong. 59 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,200 I'm taking the question at face value. 60 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,640 The premise of. Holy. 61 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Trinity. Of Holy Trinity OK as a watch 62 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,080 thing. Go ahead, Boo. 63 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Go for it. OK. 64 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,360 So I am also going to take, because I have to do some 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,840 interpretation here, like having the choice, I'm going to take 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,320 that as like being able to kind of afford as if I could afford 67 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,600 it. And you would buy. 68 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,560 If I liquidated by my watch culture right now, I could 69 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,320 afford it, right? Not just like the IT. 70 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,360 It's not the same as someone saying like if you could just 71 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,640 get for free any watch, any dress watch from the Holy 72 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,480 Trinity, what would it be? Because then I'd probably pick 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,520 something just astronomical and ridiculous. 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,840 Yeah, I would have gone higher price for sure. 75 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,320 I tried to think, would I wear it? 76 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Is this within the realm of something I could potentially 77 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,560 buy at some point and also be willing to wear? 78 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,520 OK, go for it. I picked should not be 79 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,120 surprising. I think I've talked about this 80 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,960 watch before, the Vasharon Constantine Historique American 81 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:56,240 1921, the 40mm size. Could you imagine if people were 82 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,960 like, what is that watch and you had to say that full long name 83 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,200 all the. Time that why you're like, is 84 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,240 that why the general public doesn't go they're like, I 85 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,280 can't, I can't follow that. Is this word? 86 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:11,400 Is this dollars per words? They're like. 87 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,200 OK, so there's so much about this watch that I love. 88 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:20,000 OK, number one, it's an historical reinterpretation, 89 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:26,760 yes, of a watch from 1921. And I just, I love reissues, 90 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,640 reinterpretations of vintage watches. 91 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Like, it's just something I really appreciate a lot. 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,960 It was designed for Americans. I'm American, so that seems to 93 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,560 be the Holy Trinity. Is coming to America. 94 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,600 At certain points, Vashran has marketed it as you know, I 95 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,360 haven't like, I haven't been able to get down in the truth, 96 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,560 you know, like. Find the original. 97 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,160 Find the original designer and interview them. 98 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,360 OK, They're probably not around, I guess. 99 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,240 Yeah. OK. 100 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,160 So that it was for driving, right? 101 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,720 So you could have your hand on the wheel and you could read the 102 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,160 time without rotating your wrist or rotating your head or using 103 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,600 your brain in any kind of way. OK. 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Perfect. I do. 105 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,280 I do prefer not to use my brain. 'Cause I'm pretty sure. 106 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,760 I could be in for that I will say. 107 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,600 Tell but anyway, I love the layout of the 40 mil. 108 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,880 The 40 mil and 36 are different, but I'm I'm talking about the 40 109 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,040 mil. So OK, the for those who don't 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,120 know this watch, it's like this squarish cushion case. 111 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:38,040 It's got a round dial. The dial is rotated 45°, so it's 112 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,240 not in line with what you would typically think. 113 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:47,440 So the 12:00 is where the 1:30 would be if the watch was had a 114 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,240 standard dial. I've seen this watch and when 115 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,920 you start describing it I'm like, what? 116 00:06:52,880 --> 00:07:00,040 The SUB seconds are at 3:00 on the dial, but they're at 4:30 if 117 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,880 you don't account for the 45° rotation of the dial. 118 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,720 So I think that. Makes it. 119 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Very. Clear, but it is very cool. 120 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,640 It is very cool watch. It's a watch I completely love. 121 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:18,800 I have tried it on a bunch of times and I did like the 36mm 122 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,480 but I didn't like the combination of how the watch and 123 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,480 the strap fit me. O this haens to me all the time. 124 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,040 It's like there's a watch. Usually there's like a version 125 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,800 in 36, an one in either 40 or 41 and you're a golden wish for a 126 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,920 30. Yeah, I wish for a 38. 127 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,680 I always wish for a 38. I think with this watch a 38 for 128 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,160 me and what I both like and the size of my red. 129 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Would be perfect. It would be heaven. 130 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Yes, well, Holy Trinity. Oh. 131 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,280 See, I'm keeping. I'm keeping with the. 132 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Theme OK, but why did you pick rose gold? 133 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,960 Why did I? Cause you typically you 134 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:03,720 typically rose gold, you're kind of like for my skin tone, don't 135 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,120 love it a lot of rose gold. Because I think Vasharans rose 136 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,600 gold works on me. I've tried it on, I like it, you 137 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,760 like it. I would also do yellow gold or I 138 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,600 don't know, they have a yellow gold in the current collection. 139 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,440 I do not know. I know they don't in the 36mm. 140 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Yeah, I don't think they do in the 40 right now. 141 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Yeah, in. 36 they only have white gold and the pink the Rose 142 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,000 gold. I actually was going to pick 143 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,720 this exact same watch. I did venture out because when 144 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,760 you said but I. Called it very quickly I. 145 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Was like, fair enough, but also I was going to pick the 36, but 146 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,720 much to the surprise of everyone, including myself, 147 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,240 because, you know, I don't want to pay those white gold prices. 148 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,440 You can't tell, but the white gold looked much better on me 149 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,400 for this particular model. I thought it was amazing. 150 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,440 I didn't love the pink gold. The pink gold with a different 151 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,560 strap though because you only got to try it on with the strap 152 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,600 that came. With the red strap, yeah, which 153 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,800 is a little I. Think if you changed that strap 154 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,600 that pink gold could work really well. 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,240 On no, but I just really like the like how clean it looks in 156 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,240 white gold. It just looks really beautiful. 157 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,080 It sets off the dial a little. More for me. 158 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,560 This isn't your choice. No, it's. 159 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:21,400 So what's your choice? Well, I decided obviously I'm 160 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,240 going to go with AP, OK? I mean, neither of us are Patek 161 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,640 people. We've we've been very vocal, I 162 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,480 think. It's more that Patek has told me 163 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,680 through their advertising, through their product placement, 164 00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:38,400 through kind of everything about them, that I'm not for them. 165 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,560 That's true. That is how I feel about Patek. 166 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:42,680 You're an. Acquired taste and it's a no. 167 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:45,560 Yeah, they have not acquired this taste. 168 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,440 Very true, so I picked AP which obviously after having gotten my 169 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:57,640 first AP which still feels wild, by Royal Oak 33mm which I truly 170 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,320 think is like one of the most beautiful watches in the world. 171 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Like I can't stop looking at it when I have it on my wrist. 172 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:11,680 They have a version that I have seen only online, but when I see 173 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:15,600 someone like have it on an image, I know immediately that 174 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,160 it's this particular watch. So it's a full gold, but the 175 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,400 frosted gold, which is very cool. 176 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:28,760 They did a Carolina Bucci special edition 37mm and it this 177 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,480 was back in 2016. So I absolutely cannot get this. 178 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,560 There's like, I, I don't even think they come up online It 179 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Yeah. And it was a very, but like a 180 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,480 very small amount. She's a jewelry maker and she 181 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,320 has this signature Florentine texture finish. 182 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,800 She brought that to AP, where now they actually do that on a 183 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,560 lot of their watches, like the new 39mm Royal Oaks, which are 184 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,360 all awesome. But I was like, hey, if I'm 185 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,720 dreaming here, I'm going for the one that I really want. 186 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Yes. And no one said it had to be the 187 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:02,760 current collection. It has a mirror dial. 188 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,920 It just looks so cool. The silver with this frosted 189 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,960 gold. I'm honestly when I finally see 190 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,240 one in person. And you're calling this a dress 191 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,280 watch? Yeah, it's full gold. 192 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,600 I mean, come on. No, I, I was. 193 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Only kidding, but like, if it's full goals, I'm saying it's a 194 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,720 dress watch, dress, watch price. So hold on, hold on. 195 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,000 Yes, I would wear the Yeah Sure seed. 196 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,440 Dweller. Yeah, absolutely. 197 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,440 Full gold. The reason you buy that is 198 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,560 because you have big wrists and a lot of money and you're like, 199 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,080 I will wear this with my suit. I think you could absolutely 200 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,080 like someone could pull it off. Fair enough. 201 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,640 I think Dress Watch is very much open to interpretation and I I 202 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,240 do. Accept. 203 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,400 Exactly. I'm actually surprised you 204 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,160 didn't go through like criteria of dress watch at the start. 205 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,880 The thing? Is I felt like if it's gold and 206 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,640 you have to spend a lot on it, you can wear it with a dress. 207 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,840 That's how I. I feel that even if it was made 208 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,880 of plastic, you could wear it, you know, as a dress watch. 209 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,840 Like I, I really think that rules. 210 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,800 Rules are for fools. I I just think although there 211 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,680 are best practices for many, many things in life and there 212 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:26,960 are real rules for many things in life, I don't think fashion 213 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,720 should be something that there are rules because you're not 214 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,600 hurting anybody by doing things a little bit differently. 215 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,800 I think that's a good, that's a good segue into a topic I need 216 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,680 to speak about on the podcast because we have not yet. 217 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,640 Oh, oh, really on the podcast. Wait, what? 218 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Hit the fall season? The autumn? 219 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,720 Yeah. Therefore, people, prepare 220 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,000 yourself. I will wear my watch over my 221 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,760 over. My sweaters. 222 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Not everyone likes that. People really dislike it 223 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,560 severely, but it's going to happen because you know what? 224 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,880 Otherwise I can't see it and I just want to see my watch. 225 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,880 So, so I'm just giving a quick this is like a warning. 226 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,800 If that's going to bother you, too bad. 227 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,840 So I forget the name of the Italian gentleman who was known 228 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,960 for this back in I think the 80s. 229 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Yes, wearing it over his shirt sleeves. 230 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:23,000 So I've tried to wear my watch over my shirt sleeve, but 231 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,400 because the shirts that I wear do not have very tight sleeves, 232 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,760 I get a lot of bunching and and you know, I don't wear dress 233 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,760 shirts where they're thin enough that it would be nice like that 234 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,680 or mostly denim shirts. So it doesn't work for me to 235 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,560 wear it over my sleeve. Otherwise I totally would. 236 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:49,760 Johnny Agnelli, yes. Yeah, I like why have this 237 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,200 beautiful watch and then hide it under a sleeve? 238 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,800 So sad. Exactly. 239 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,360 I look, I know it's very divisive, but I feel like since 240 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,800 we were moving towards anyone can do whatever fashion they 241 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,600 want. Since we're talking about that 242 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,200 felt like it's a good it's a good time to warn everyone. 243 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,400 There will be images of you wearing your watches over your 244 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,160 sleeves. I did think about it and we have 245 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,400 a question to answer that we'll do tomorrow, which is about like 246 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,680 what's the best time of year to wear a watch? 247 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:25,520 Like, do you have a time of like a, a season that you enjoy where 248 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,680 he watches? And I was like, yeah, 'cause I 249 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,320 love. Well, yeah. 250 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,040 Nope. OK. 251 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,200 We have another This is a quick and easy question from at Time 252 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,040 the Destroyer. Would you ever consider moving 253 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,840 to Switzerland? Yeah, I try to consider most 254 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,520 things at least a little before I say no. 255 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Like a little consideration. I mean, I am a EU citizen, a 256 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,200 Swedish citizen actually. So I have an EU passport. 257 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,320 I'm not an EU citizen. No, evidently that's. 258 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Not actually how it. Works. 259 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,120 I'm still American. You don't know anything. 260 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,480 Isn't Europe a state? I'm a Swedish citizen, yeah, and 261 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,400 an American citizen. And so I could live in 262 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Switzerland, yes. What? 263 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Yes. But it would still wait. 264 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,800 You still need a work permit. You. 265 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Yeah, because. Switzerland is is not in the 266 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,280 Schengen zone, Yeah, it is in the EU, yes. 267 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:29,480 So your passport, you don't get to just live directly in 268 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,000 Switzerland, I don't believe unless there could be a deal 269 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,640 with anyway we're getting. Way in the. 270 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Weeds we're. Getting way in the weeds. 271 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,240 The whole thing is that's not the point. 272 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,920 My answer. How much paperwork? 273 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,080 My answer is yes. I would consider it. 274 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,240 If it's too much paperwork, no. No. 275 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,000 So yeah. I used to think that I'd live 276 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,040 pretty much anywhere in Europe, right? 277 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,800 Like this is when I was younger. When I was younger, almost every 278 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,440 place I'd travel to though, I would for a short period of time 279 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,520 while I was there, I was sure I was going to move there, right? 280 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,120 So my first time I went to Paris, I was like, oh, wow, OK, 281 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,800 I'm going to move here. OK, not forever, but I'm just. 282 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Like I'm going. To live here, at least live here 283 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,800 for a few years. Like absolutely 100% and my 284 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,360 first time in London. Oh, I'm moving here. 285 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,320 Like I love it here. Don't even have to learn a new 286 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,320 language. I'm moving here. 287 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,440 This place is amazing. First time to Munich in Germany 288 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,960 for sure. I'm moving here like not too far 289 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,320 away from the Bavarian mountains, like. 290 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Oh, OK. That's really nice. 291 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Amazing. Like I'm moving here. 292 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,880 This all happened on like one work trip. 293 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,480 My first Europe trip ever. OK. 294 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,080 And you were like all I will live everywhere. 295 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,200 New city. I was like, I'm going to live 296 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,120 here too. How will I have enough life to 297 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,320 live in all these places? I think it's really good we 298 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,440 found each other because my my ex-husband was like went to 299 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,920 Paris once and was like Europe is the worst. 300 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,720 So I was like, well. His loss. 301 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,680 Take this, I will move there and I will live there forever. 302 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:11,119 So we have both, though having lived here, right, become much 303 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,200 more picky about where we think we would live. 304 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,040 I think you lived well. No, I think you lived your whole 305 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,839 life in Florida before I lived in New York and then California. 306 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,760 And although I've moved a lot, I didn't move that far. 307 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,000 I did live in Vietnam for two years. 308 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,640 So I guess I forgot that place. Yeah, that's. 309 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,200 Quite far and completely different life. 310 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Yeah, I like. Yeah, OK. 311 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,200 But what I meant was like, Europe was very foreign to us, 312 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,880 and so everything just seemed amazing. 313 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,560 And then as you spend time in Europe, then you're like, you 314 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,760 know the things you like, you know the things you like less 315 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,160 than you know the things you don't like. 316 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,560 So we've only been to Switzerland twice so far. 317 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,720 Very quick trips, but very quick. 318 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,240 Fairly quick trips and we didn't get to see a ton. 319 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,760 However we have spent time now in Geneva. 320 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,640 We did that I watches and wonders and we also went and 321 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:14,200 visited Jeja Lacoute. So we have been in Watch Valley. 322 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,000 Yeah right. Valid issue. 323 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,640 And that is a place I could consider living. 324 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,720 You want to live in, you're like, I don't want to live in 325 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,440 Geneva. I want to live in the valley. 326 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,120 But I mean. I don't even want to live in 327 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,080 Stockholm. Like we live in the countryside, 328 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,040 right? I like to live near Stockholm, 329 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,480 but I don't want to live in Stockholm. 330 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,600 So I'm done with cities. Kind of. 331 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,280 I'm just kind of done with cities. 332 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,240 And then, like, that, valley was gorgeous. 333 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,080 Yeah, it was. I mean, it was so beautiful. 334 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,440 You're surrounded by nature and mountains. 335 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,400 You're surrounded by watchmakers. 336 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,680 Like that sounds like an amazing place. 337 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,080 So I, yeah, really, really into it. 338 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:54,560 But I do love Sweden a little too much. 339 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,440 So I when I think about my life, I want to live in Sweden. 340 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,640 But would I move to valid issue for a little while? 341 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,400 Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. Yeah, call us up, move us there 342 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,680 to work on something cool. Or something cool. 343 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,800 For a while, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 344 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,160 The The funny thing though, is you, you and I have both 345 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,920 experienced this when we're talking. 346 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,920 Unfortunately, it's it's always Americans in the US like, oh, 347 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,960 yeah, no, I live in Sweden. They ask about like, the cheese 348 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,240 and the chocolates, the watches. We're like, no. 349 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,320 And then I'm like we have. That's that's what. 350 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,600 We have IKEA, yeah, which is the way you would say here about 351 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,080 IKEA. IKEA and we have meatballs, yes. 352 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,000 Yes, but actually very Sweden's on. 353 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,880 The but also but also Sweden makes great cheese and 354 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,360 chocolate. Yeah, that's true. 355 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,080 And some good watches. Yeah, and Minecraft. 356 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:49,880 And Minecraft. Sweden makes a little bit of 357 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,240 everything, stuff like. Don't do Sweden. 358 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,800 No, Yeah. Bye, everyone. 359 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,200 Bye.