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Welcome to this Watch live. 
Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 

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And I'm Boo Booey. 
And today, we're talking about a

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New Moon watch. 
Yeah, we're going to space. 

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We're. 
We are going to actually this 

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was recorded in space. 
To quote my favorite astronaut 

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to Infinity and beyond. 
Is that your favorite astronaut?

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Obviously. 
Say it again. 

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To Infinity and beyond. 
I tried. 

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I tried. 
I tried. 

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OK, so yes, Yesterday Omega 
announced the new white 

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Speedmaster Professional, 
Moonwatch. 

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At least they actually the 
teaser went directly with this. 

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You mean they didn't, like, put 
Snoopy? 

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And then have it be about 
something else. 

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We're getting a Snoopy Moon 
Swatch. 

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There was absolutely no Snoopy a
part of. 

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Anything. 
In this case, the teaser said 

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new or now in white #moonwatch. 
I was like, if it is not a white

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moonwatch, I will be with 
everyone being upset, even 

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though I don't really care 
either way. 

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Yeah, as far as teasers go, it 
was a very clear one. 

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But the original teaser for this
came in November when Daniel 

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Craig wore one of these. 
It may have been a prototype, it

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may have been first production, 
who knows? 

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I mean, it was a while ago, so 
it was probably a prototype, but

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like wore this to an event. 
I mean, that's a teaser. 

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I would definitely let Daniel 
Craig wear a cool watch of mine 

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early if he wanted to. 
I think you're like, was it 

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intentional or was Daniel Craig 
just like, I want to do this? 

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And they were like, yeah, you 
you can do whatever you want. 

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Yeah, it's interesting how those
things probably happen. 

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I mean, we have a little bit of 
insight into, you know, how 

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brands come together and do 
things. 

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And sometimes it could be as 
simple as that. 

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He's like, no, I think it'd be 
really cool if I wore this at 

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this event and they're like, 
yeah, do it. 

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Or someone just like 
accidentally sent it early. 

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It's always interesting whether 
it started as a real idea or if 

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it was an accident that that is 
like, yeah, of course we wanted 

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him to wear that totally 
embargoed watch early that he 

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had for a magazine shoot or 
something that's coming out 

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later in the year. 
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Mean he like he was posing with 
it like it was. 

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This was not accidental. 
OK, OK. 

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So at minimum he he went rogue 
and just decided I'm doing this.

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Yeah, but. 
That's unlikely. 

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It's unlikely because when you 
look at all of the red carpets 

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and how how much Omega is really
like wanting their watches on 

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stars, I'm going to go with 
intentional, yeah. 

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For sure. 
Me too. 

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I was just playing Devil's out, 
OK? 

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But all like when when he did 
that, everyone was like, OK, 

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well it's coming because it's 
not like Daniel Craig, who is an

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Omega ambassador, would wear 
like some kind of modded watch. 

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You know. 
Like, oh, he did it himself. 

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No, definitely not he. 
Took it to a customizer. 

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OK. 
So you're going to talk a little

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bit about the history? 
Yeah. 

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These amazing watches. 
Yeah, it's really funny. 

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Got me super interested. 
So we had the space race 

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dominating the 1960s, but in 
1957 that's actually when Omega 

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released, which is Wild, a trio 
of sports oriented tool watches.

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The Seamaster is a rail Master 
and the Speedmaster, I know, I 

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know that because of the 1957 
Trilogy edition which we had. 

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But when you think about, like, 
how iconic, especially the 

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Seamaster and the Speedmaster 
are, it's wild to think they 

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were just like, hey, let's. 
We got these three. 

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New watches. 
Let's drop them all right now. 

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So then the Speedmaster is 
launched. the IT starts with a 

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space legacy. 
In 1965, NASA qualified it for 

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use in its piloted missions. 
And so there's many stories. 

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We were talking about it. 
You were like, there's a story 

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where someone just like goes 
shopping and just buys, watches 

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and then like, let's test them. 
That does not seem accurate at 

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all. 
That is a legend. 

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But actually they went out to 
NASA, went out to 10 different 

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watch brands, asked them to 
submit 4 submitted, which was 

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Hamilton Long Jeans Whitener at 
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It was the double name Rolex and
Omega. 

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The Hamilton watch was 
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meet all of the criteria. 
So then it was really, you know,

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3 watches, and I love, Omega 
says. 

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You know, the tests that NASA 
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that were submitted to the 
agency in 1964 were designed to 

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destroy the watch. 
In the end, only one watch 

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survived, the Speedmaster. 
That also is not accurate 

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because it's they tallied up the
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although. 
At the end it wasn't like 2 

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piles of parts and then an Omega
Speedmaster. 

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But it's like, OK, I get the 
they're they're being you know 

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there's a little hyperbole there
but it's fine. 

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It's it's like only one didn't 
go to space. 

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But I don't think it survived 
and but the the Speedmaster was 

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also the astronauts favorite. 
So it's really was this cool, 

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you know, special special thing 
that now has become synonymous 

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with Omega. 
Omega. 

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The moon, you know? 
And on July 21st, 1969, it was 

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the first watch born on the 
moon. 

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Which is pretty cool. 
Is really cool. 

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I I I've so I've loved the the 
Moon watch for for a long, long 

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time. 
I bought my first one in 2014 

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and I will buy my second one 
soon because I am in love with 

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this new one. 
Oh, oh. 

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I love. 
It. 

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Oh no, you do. 
I I really do did not expect to 

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I when when the, you know back 
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like eh white dial speedy who 
cares. 

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Oh yeah, that's where they It 
always gets you. 

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Whenever I say who cares? 
I'm like I want it. 

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Last night as I looked at the 
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Uh, oh, you're like, oh, I'm 
just doing some research for the

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podcast. 
Well, The thing is. 

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There's not much research that 
needed to be done, really. 

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This one truly is just look at 
images because it is the same 

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watch that already exists. 
The black dial and the white 

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dial. 
They aren't different watches. 

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The difference is in the dial 
and the hands. 

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So everything else, the case, 
the bezel, the bracelet. 

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It's the same as the existing 
sapphire sandwich version 

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because this is also only coming
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version. 
Sapphire Sandwich being sapphire

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glass on both the top for the 
dial and the bottom so you can 

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see the movement. 
They're not doing a Hesselite 

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version, which kind of makes 
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The Hesselite version only 
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are like. 
I want the closest thing to the 

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one that went on the. 
Moon Yeah, that would be weird. 

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Like I want the closest thing to
the one that went on the moon in

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the color that I refer. 
Like I'll take a green Hesselite

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please for moon watch landing I.
Really, I agree with that 

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decision. 
Of. 

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Course options are always nice, 
but I don't think there's a real

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reason to to have a heslite 
white dial version. 

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So it makes sense. 
It's a sapphire sandwich and it 

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is the same. 
It has the bracelet with the 

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polished links it has and and it
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like that they quietly release. 
Like, what was it a year ago? 

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Maybe two years ago? 
I don't remember. 

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But. 
It has their what they call I 

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think the comfort adjust, which 
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class. 
Oh, perfect. 

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Amazing. 
And this bracelet has a 

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beautiful taper. 
It is to me the most beautiful 

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bracelet that has ever been on a
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It has the new movement, the 
3861, which is the That and the 

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bracelet are the reasons I sold 
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wanted the new one. 
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exists. 
You're you're going to switch 

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over? 
I I believe so. 

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So OK. 
It's a lacquer white dial which 

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is. 
Really cool. 

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I do like lacquer. 
Yeah, and you know the black 

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dial is very matte. 
Finished. 

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This is not at all. 
It's a completely different feel

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and it has really cool red 
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So the Speedmaster text is in 
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hand is, sorry, the tip of the 
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Second's hand is also in red. 
Everything else is pretty much 

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just inverted, like the colors 
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inverted. 
That's the part that kind of 

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freaks me out when I look at it.
Yeah, because I'm not sure that 

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I like all the black details. 
What color would you want them 

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to be on a white dial though? 
Well, I mean, I didn't think 

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that far. 
I'm just not sure about it. 

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So I have a lot of experience 
with a white dial with awesome 

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black details with my Explorer 
2, Polar, and the new version 

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that came out a couple years 
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I like even more because it's it
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because they're matte now, even 
deeper than they used to be. 

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This I'll have to see in person 
to see how, yeah, the character 

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of it is. 
But I I really, I just kind of 

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love everything about this. 
Yeah, why? 

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Why the complaints? 
Why like is there? 

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Is there any? 
Whoa, it's funny you should ask.

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I mean, white is to me a great 
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Because oh, we're just going to 
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it. 
Well. 

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I don't think Omega came out and
said here's the exact. 

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Well, yeah, I was just. 
Curious, but NASA space suits 

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have always been white, right? 
So, like, space and white go 

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together. 
The shuttles, the Rockets, 

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they're all painted white 
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And so I I think it really does 
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Also this year is the 55th 
anniversary of the Alaska One 

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project, which is the I'm not 
going to go into it, but it's 

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like a secret project between 
Omega and NASA to design the 

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perfect space watch. 
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released a limited like re 
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I guess not re release but a 
limited edition version of that 

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watch had this cool over case 
that you could put on it that 

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was red and really amazing 
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That's also the the moon Swatch.
Yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah, there's one the Mars kind 
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And it has a white dial. 
And it does have a white dial 

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and it does have some red 
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Yeah, I I really. 
To me, white is more legible. 

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I don't know scientifically what
it is, but my Explorer 2 is the 

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easiest watch for me to read the
exact time. 

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Yeah, I mean, I when, well, when
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printed white with black tanks. 
That is true, but that could be 

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to save ink. 
Yeah, that's true too. 

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It would be a lot of printing. 
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Of printing. 
Unless they invent like non dyed

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black paper like trees. 
I guess they'd have to anyway. 

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Not going to get into that. 
I'm not designing black paper 

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right now. 
No. 

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But I mean I do know like for 
legibility. 

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I I agree with you when I look 
at them I and maybe it's also 

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just what we're more accustomed 
to like white on like black text

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on white things. 
Because I definitely feel like, 

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oh, I could probably read that 
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We're the moon watch. 
I'm like, I'm probably not able 

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to read that watch when you. 
Look at the images of both of 

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them side by side. 
Like I really do feel that the 

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white has more clarity in it for
some reason. 

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Like that's the vibe I get. 
And part partly, you know, the 

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the black dial, more of it is 
printed. 

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There's there are less things 
that are applied. 

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Oh, OK, so on the white tile. 
Maybe I'll like the white tile 

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more because I prefer applied 
things. 

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Yeah, so there. 
But it just has a crispness that

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could just be the images, you 
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We'll have to see it in person 
to really know. 

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But it feels so much more 
legible, but also to me, less 

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busy. 
Yeah, that's true. 

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I I saw some people commenting 
online. 

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I mean, don't don't go too deep 
there, but they were like, oh, I

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wish it was a panda though. 
And I was like, that wouldn't 

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make any sense. 
It really is. 

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Like you said, it's just an 
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becomes really nice and also it 
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else. 
That's what I do like the most 

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with this. 
It's not like all of a sudden 

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it's like moving into more of 
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feeling or look like it looks, 
it's it's moon, Moon. 

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Watch it still. 
Looks like a moon watch and 

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there you know there have been 
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white tiles. 
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I believe there have been gold 
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but this is the first time with 
a steel moonwatch white dial. 

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It's a full production model. 
It's not limited, it's just part

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of the collection now and I 
think the white. 

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Oh, wow. 
Yeah, one of I think the best 

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comment I saw. 
Someone said finally. 

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The Moonwatch looking like moon.
Looking like. 

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I was like, wow, I love it. 
I love it so much because I kind

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of want to have it just so that 
when I show it to. 

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People are like why? 
Why is your Moonwatch white? 

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It's like it's looking like 
moon. 

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Yeah, it's. 
Looking. 

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Like, I mean, come on, that is a
really good reasoning. 

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You're like Alaska project Nas. 
Secret things are like looking 

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like moon. 
I I like it. 

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You're like the chronograph 
Subdials are craters on the 

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moon. 
So all this time, the Moonwatch 

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was actually the dark side of 
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Yeah, it was. 
Yeah, they have that too. 

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So it doesn't. 
So that doesn't. 

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Basically, if you pick any word 
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probably some special limited 
edition around it. 

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Yeah, this is true. 
OK. 

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So the the last thing that we we
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it has been a big part of the 
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for a few years now, is the 
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And I will admit, I've been with
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for a while right now. 
The enthusiast masses? 

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Yeah, 'cause I I wouldn't call 
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Enthusiast masses, you know, 
have been a bit upset over the 

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pricing around the moon watch. 
It has gone up a lot. 

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It it, you know, in general, all
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watches have been going through 
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Most things in the world have 
been going through price 

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increases. 
Feels like watches have moved a 

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little quicker than other things
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did a big jump when they 
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couple years ago. 
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right? 
That is, in my mind, like such a

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departure from what I feel a 
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because I bought my first one in
2014. 

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Yeah. 
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€3000 brand new. 
Yeah, so like, that's a. 

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Different time. 
Yeah, 10 years. 

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Time. 
Three times the cost. 

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Yeah. 
So it it doesn't it like that is

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not inflation. 
Right. 

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And it. 
Is a different watch. 

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Now you know it has a new 
movement. 

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It has the better bracelet there
there. 

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There are improvements to it. 
But is it three times better? 

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Is it you know and has labor and
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Have they increased by three 
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So I think mentally, if you're 
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previous moon watches in the 
previous years of the moon 

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watch, it becomes difficult to 
see the price. 

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But you have to compare it to 
the market right now around it, 

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it, yeah, it. 
Is different when you compare it

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to the Daytona, the Breitling 
chronographs, you know all of 

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these other chronographs that 
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JLC has a bunch of chronographs 
and let then you start to see 

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that the price is still kind of 
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Daytona's like €15,000, right? 
And when the Moonwatch still had

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the 1861 movement, you could 
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Is over, yeah. 
That's true old movement, you 

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know it doesn't have any modern 
technology, but now with the 

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3861 it is a very modern 
movement with meta 

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certification. 
It is nearly anti magnetic, it 

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has all of the things you want 
in a modern movement and I just 

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feel like if you look at it 
through the lens of what else is

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out there and not through the 
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It was what it. 
Was a few years ago. 

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Then you start to see like, OK, 
it probably is not amazingly 

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priced, but it is reasonably 
priced in my opinion. 

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OK, so you are on team like new,
new? 

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New. 
New White Moonwatch, new IT. 

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Looks like Moon. 
It's all I want. 

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And I'm going to go. 
I'm on Team Original. 

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Wait. 
What? 

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What level of original? 
No. 

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OK. 
The the current line. 

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The Moonwatch. 
Yeah, not the. 

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I know I don't need the Heslite.
Yes, I'm. 

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I'm going to go black. 
Dial sandwich, yeah. 

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Black dial, yes, So let us know.
Oh. 

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What team? 
You're on what team you're on. 

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I think it's going to be my 
team. 

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I think some. 
People will be with me.