1 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,320 Welcome to this Watch LIVE. Hi, I'm Lydia Winters. 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,720 And I'm Boo Boo. And as I said, we're going deep 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,120 on perpetual calendars and annual calendars. 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,000 You. Did say that. 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,480 I did be and. Now you're delivering. 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,160 I am. I'm not delivering. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,480 Take that, everyone delivering sometimes. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,400 I was busy all day and you prepared this whole episode. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,600 And I'm very excited because I will say that perpetual 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,200 calendars are something that I find fascinating, but because 11 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:44,280 I've never had a specific one that I was interested in, I've 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,000 never actually gone to any depth with them at all to understand 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,840 them. Well, this. 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,800 So now you're going to teach. Me well, but this is also why I 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,600 became interested. Secret diary of a watch girl on 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Instagram Emily she was talking with Justin Hest, said that her 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:11,200 grail watch was an IWC 3755 Da Vinci Perpetual Calendar and 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,280 then someone that he knew reached out said there was one 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,480 in Amsterdam. They went down together for her 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,600 to buy it. This is her grail watch. 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,920 It is such a cool white ceramic and gold watch. 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,240 It has a crown controlled perpetual calendar which is 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,080 super cool. Is actually invented by Kurt 24 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Kloss who worked at IWC. That sounds. 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Super cool. It's Iwc's first movement 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,320 featuring a moon phase, year, month, date, day, hours, 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,200 minutes, seconds and a chronograph. 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,200 That's a lot. Which I was like, that's 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,960 actually really cool to have a perpetual calendar with a 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,760 chronograph. It's not big at all. 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,040 It's like a, it's a 39 millimeter. 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Like not a huge case, really. Yeah, very nice. 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,760 But this is what so Emily's Germany is what got me really 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,960 excited about basically perpetual calendars in general. 35 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:09,320 Annual Calendars. Annual. 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,960 Calendars. Because I've also just, I think 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,920 it's kind of that like it's the next frontier for me is like 38 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:18,640 more complications. I want a moon phase, you know, 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,440 it's like very. Yeah, yeah. 40 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:26,080 I owned an annual calendar once and I I did. 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,680 I liked the functionality but the watch was a little weird on 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,680 me. OK, it was an Omega Deville 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,600 annual calendar. I forget exactly the model. 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,080 This was 10 / 10. Years ago, I didn't even realize 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,240 it was a annual calendar. Like, I didn't know that. 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,920 Yeah, that was an. But I guess it was before I 47 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:47,520 cared. I was like, that watch does 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,560 watch stuff. Yeah. 49 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Yeah. And you didn't really like the 50 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,160 look of it on me. And it just, it didn't last 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,680 long. I it was, it was more of an 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,560 experiment. I I got that one and then I let 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,280 it go fairly quickly. OK, so perpetual calendar 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:09,520 complications dates back to the mid 1700s as a pocket watch. 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,280 So that's when it started. But then they were integrated 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,600 into wristwatches in 1925 by Patek Philippe. 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,040 And this was like a really big, like, adapting that from a 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,960 pocket watch to a wristwatch was a very significant milestone in 59 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,560 horology because it really showcased the complexity and 60 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:33,160 precision of perpetual calendars and a especially to all of a 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,800 sudden make them wearable in a size that can fit on your wrist. 62 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,560 Yeah. And then today, even today, 63 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,640 perpetual calendars watches are still considered a pinnacle of 64 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,680 watchmaking. Yeah. 65 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,520 They're capable of automatically adjusting for different month 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,720 lengths and leap years, which is really wild. 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,480 They require adjustments only once every century. 68 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,480 That's pretty cool. That's really, really, really 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,120 cool. Yeah. 70 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,080 So for for that means at least anyone I've ever heard of, you 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,640 only have to adjust it once. Mm, hmm. 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Ever. Yeah, probably not even that, 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,480 because you're probably not getting it as a baby. 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,000 It's just. I'm just saying. 75 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,360 Pure little baby. You're going to have to change 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,360 it multiple times. So, oh, wait, actually. 77 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,760 But it's not 100 years from the time you get it. 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,680 No, OK. I I I just wasn't thinking. 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,520 Anyway, that's how that works. It's. 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,400 So, yeah, obviously like advantages of this are they're 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,960 extremely precise, minimal manual adjustments, which is 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,240 very cool. And then the disadvantages are 83 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,320 like it's very expensive and it's extremely complex 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,920 mechanisms. Do not drop your perpetual 85 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,000 calendar. Probably not a cheap fix. 86 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,880 No, I would assume not. So then this part is what 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,520 surprised me because perpetual calendars and annual calendars. 88 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,640 I knew a bit of the like. The perpetual part is that it 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,120 keeps going. But an annual calendar? 90 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:07,840 If someone had asked me before I researched this, which came 91 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:11,520 first, the chicken or the egg? The perpetual calendar or the 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,360 annual calendar? What one would you say? 93 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,680 Annual calendar. It's a simpler movement. 94 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,320 No, perpetual calendar was first. 95 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,240 I mean, I kind of figured that as you asked the question. 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,120 Well, yeah, 'cause I the. Only reason you'd ask this is if 97 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,840 it's the surprising one, but I I went along with your your your 98 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:29,600 your. Ruse. 99 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,200 OK, but it's surprising because annual calendar watches are not 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,920 only a more recent innovation, but the first one was introduced 101 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,600 by Patek in 1996. What? 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:47,920 So from 1925 to 1996, they were like, there's only one way this 103 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,080 can happen, and it's where you can never change. 104 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,600 It so prior to that they had perpetual calendars and then 105 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:02,360 regular watches with a date and then but they it's like they 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,880 realize like wait a second. Yeah, well. 107 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,320 We can get most of what you get out of a perpetual calendar for 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,920 much less work, which means we can charge much less money. 109 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,960 It's designed as a simpler and more affordable alternative to 110 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,000 the perpetual calendars. But it's so interesting to me 111 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,520 that it it was so long in between because I was like, oh, 112 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,960 OK, surely annual surely, because. 113 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,600 It's more simple. You develop that first, but it 114 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,560 turns out no. Yes, and so with an annual 115 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,440 calendar they can distinguish between months with 30 and 31 116 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,440 days, but require manual adjustments once a year at the 117 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,400 end of good old February, the month that makes no sense. 118 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,040 Well, it makes sense in the great. 119 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Yeah, OK. It makes sense somehow. 120 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,240 OK. And then after Patek Philippe 121 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,080 had success with this, because people were like, wait, what? 122 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,840 I can have all of the functionality, I just have to. 123 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:03,720 Change it. Once a year. 124 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:09,160 That's 100 times more. But yeah, but still, it's a lot 125 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,240 less than other watches. I'm changing all the time 'cause 126 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,640 I'm wearing too many. Well, OK, but that's. 127 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,240 Yeah, that's not. Yeah, that's its own. 128 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,360 Problem own problem. I think a regular watch you 129 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,400 would change like 7 * a year right? 130 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:30,000 Because it's any month that's less than 31 days +2 you you 131 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,480 you'd have to reset it for the two times that the hour. 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Changes, yeah. Depends on where you live. 133 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,840 Yeah. If you live in Phoenix, AZ then 134 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,880 you don't change for daylight savings. 135 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,040 OK, annual calendar watches, an advantage is that less frequent 136 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,080 adjustments more affordable than perpetual calendars. 137 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,520 So I mean, it's, well, it's not less frequent adjustments 138 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,280 overall, but it's still less. Frequent adjustments than a 139 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,120 regular calendar. A regular watch with a date. 140 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Exactly. And then the disadvantages are 141 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,920 that it still requires annual adjustments and it's less 142 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,320 complex, but that's also that's the price difference. 143 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,800 It's also like kind of interesting because with an 144 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,120 annual calendar, so for the 2:00-ish years that I own that 145 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,840 annual calendar, it kind of made like Leap Day. 146 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,360 Is that what it's called? It's called Leap Day, I think. 147 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Yeah, right. Yeah, it made that more special. 148 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,000 It's like Kermit Day on the Oris because. 149 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,320 When I had that annual calendar, that's the first time I bought a 150 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,919 watch Winder because I'm like, well, this is a watch that 151 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:39,480 belongs on a Winder, so that it, it, it'll just always know the 152 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,600 date, you know, other watches. I didn't bother with winders and 153 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,320 I still don't. But if you have an annual or 154 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,920 perpetual calendar and they're automatic, then a Winder could 155 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,400 be really nice. Yeah, that's true. 156 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,840 So an annual calendar, it's ideal for someone who wants a 157 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,600 sophisticated watch, but still minimal maintenance. 158 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:03,440 And I think they're very nice. And then a perpetual calendar, 159 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,640 it's really that like watch enthusiasts and collector who 160 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,640 appreciate the intricate or logical complication because it 161 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,960 really is like super cool. I'm not really sure actually. 162 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,240 I like them both. I think that a lot of times 163 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,400 perpetual calendars in my mind have been more bulky. 164 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,560 But then when I saw this IWC Da Vinci, that secret diary of a 165 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:30,040 watch girl has, I was like, wait, that's not that big. 166 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,240 And some of the older like obviously the ones I want are 167 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,560 like a PS Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 168 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,160 You know. Just casually, but they're so 169 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,920 beautiful and I think it's really cool. 170 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,960 OK, well, I the The thing is, it's because, so from a 171 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,600 functional standpoint, there's not a huge difference for you, 172 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,240 right? Like I I'm just talking about. 173 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,440 Between the two between because I was like for me though as like 174 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,320 my in my current. Watch between the two. 175 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,920 Functionally, they're not that difference for you, for for for 176 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,680 you. But if you're still interested 177 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:12,720 in the perpetual calendar, then what that does mean is what 178 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,840 you're saying is you're interested in some of the 179 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,960 technicalities of movements and what can be achieved. 180 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Well, I mean, yeah, because if I think about my current 181 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,600 collection, I have date. Yeah, I have. 182 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,600 AGMT No. No, not anymore. 183 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:35,120 I have a chronograph and I have a day date. 184 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:41,280 The Seiko 5 is the day date, but to have the date, day month a 185 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,560 moon phase would be cool. Like that's a really useful 186 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,440 everyday watch. Like it's very cool to me 187 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,760 because sometimes I am like, what month is it, What day is 188 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,640 it, what year is it? So I've heard various things 189 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,160 about the durability of the average. 190 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,400 I don't know what the average for perpetual calendar is, but 191 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,440 like that, you know, obviously there are many more parts, yeah, 192 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,960 which is many more failure points. 193 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,520 And so probably most perpetual calendars are not worn daily, 194 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,000 but probably the makers of them want them to be able to be worn. 195 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,280 Daily. You know, like I, I, I assume 196 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,720 that would be a goal is that they could endure the regular 197 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,000 rigors of life. It may not be your adventure 198 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,600 watch, but like a daily wear it around town, go to the office 199 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,280 type of watch. That would be a cool daily watch 200 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,040 to. Yeah, it would be calendar. 201 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,240 As your daily. It would be pretty cool, Yeah. 202 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,960 Yeah, I mean. Depends on the watch, of course. 203 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,160 I just think with either of them, they're really cool 204 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,360 because you see like a level of sophistication in the watch 205 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,600 making and also just a lot of craftsmanship because in order 206 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,360 to, you know, like it's a lot of different things combined into 207 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 one. That's why I find the IWC Da 208 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,960 Vinci one that it's also a chronograph to be so cool 209 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,360 because you have all of these hands everywhere basically. 210 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,080 But it's also, when you look at it, you can see what everything 211 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,960 is. So the chronic, the sub, the 212 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,440 subdials actually have, you know, some of the hands are in 213 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,480 gold and then some are in blue, like a blue. 214 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,360 Black. Specifically for that one with 215 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,840 the chronograph. And so it's really cool that you 216 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,680 can use one subdial and it's doing multiple things. 217 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:29,280 So you don't have listed here leap year, Is that not on the 218 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,560 move on on the face of the movement? 219 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,520 It's 'cause they're not on every. 220 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,280 Not. Every perpetual calendar I've 221 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,360 seen shows the leap year. But but many do. 222 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,880 I don't think they all have to. No, I wouldn't. 223 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,760 You kind of need to know like for when you said it, but you 224 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,560 don't need to see it. No. 225 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:55,560 If I buy a perpetual calendar, I'm having someone else said it 226 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,400 obviously, and then it can run for 100. 227 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Years. Well, so then if you get a 228 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,200 perpetual calendar, which now that this bug is in your. 229 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,120 It is. No, it definitely feels. 230 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,360 It feels. It feels. 231 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,440 Like. It yeah, I do feel a bit like 232 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:18,320 I'm I'm I I definitely was doing a deep dive of my friend a dose 233 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,800 of time to. Trade towards. 234 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,680 No, but I was looking at a dose of time at Jacqueline and she 235 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:30,200 has a lot of old Patek perpetual calendars, some old AP ones and 236 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,520 I was just like I they're so beautiful because it's just, 237 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:38,320 it's just very cool, especially from someone who pretty much 238 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,480 daily wears like a three hand watch, like that's pretty, you 239 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,680 know, like occasionally I have the date, but not that often. 240 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,360 So I find it really cool suddenly. 241 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,680 Interested in this? Yeah, in a way. 242 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:54,920 So I've talked about really. Seems like it's way up your 243 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,160 alley when I say it like that. It sounded, yeah. 244 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,080 Yeah. Well, no, it didn't sound gross 245 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,760 until you then called it gross. Now it definitely. 246 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,320 Sounds gross. Anyway, moving on. 247 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:13,000 The thing is, I do enjoy complexity in many different 248 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,560 ways, and I enjoy technical achievement and technical 249 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:18,520 complexity. Yeah. 250 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,160 So therefore. Does all make sense. 251 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:29,400 However, I also enjoy like really clean, clear, easy to 252 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,320 read displays and I really value that. 253 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,920 And it takes a really great designer to make a perpetual 254 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,200 calendar that you can glance at and glean the information that 255 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,440 you want fairly quickly. But that's why I like some of 256 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,400 the vintage ones. I feel like they're decluttered 257 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,680 in a way and I think it's really nice, especially how. 258 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,440 Long. Royal Oak, that. 259 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,400 It'll take Olivia to get a provincial calendar. 260 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,800 OK. But then the question back to 261 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,280 you is, would you pick you would pick perpetual over annual? 262 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,560 It depends on the watch. So the thing about that Omega 263 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,400 Deville, our vision, that's what I call what's called the Omega 264 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Deville, our vision annual calendar. 265 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,400 And one of the cool things about that watch was on the sides of 266 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,480 the case, it was sapphire. So you can see the movement from 267 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,920 the side. I thought that was. 268 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Pretty cool. That was pretty. 269 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,160 Cool, but the design of the dial made it look I think dated 270 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,120 already. Like now when I look at those 271 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,360 watches they they look like they were from 10 years ago. 272 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Anyway, the thing about an annual calendar is it can just 273 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,960 look like a watch with a date because you don't have to see 274 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,280 the month in order to set it and not all annual calendars tell 275 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,680 you the month. So that one specifically, it 276 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,240 just had the day. Well, here's the thing for me is 277 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:04,000 if if you can't see it and I paid extra for no, I'm like, if 278 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,160 I'm paying extra for it, I want to see. 279 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,920 Wait, so that's why I didn't know that yours was an annual 280 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,400 calendar? Because you didn't even know 281 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,560 what an annual calendar. Was but yeah, here's here's what 282 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:20,280 I really want one of these like, you know, old royal oats. 283 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Well, yeah, I know that like an old 80s sorry, not Royal Oak AP 284 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,080 perpetual calendar moon phase. I think they're just so clean 285 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,720 and cool. The moon phase looks awesome, 286 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,640 has the Big Dipper, which is super cool right there. 287 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,280 I love the Big Dipper and the Little Dipper, but also they're 288 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,840 very thin and I find I just think that's so cool, huh? 289 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:53,000 What's the size of the watch? This one is 36mm, so perfect for 290 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,200 me. Yeah. 291 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,440 So I'm I, I, I. Think anyone have one for sale I 292 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,840 we have a. An immediate buyer? 293 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:06,400 No, I am definitely not an immediate buyer, but I feel that 294 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:13,000 this may be, you know, moving towards something in the next 3 295 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:15,240 watches in. The next three watches, I 296 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,640 thought you were going to say three years. 297 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,160 No, no, no. And you're like, then I should 298 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,800 have known it's more like 3 months. 299 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,440 No, it will probably be longer than that, but it's also I'm 300 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,720 very excited about it and I'm I'm super excited about secret 301 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,000 diary of a watch girls and I have definitely been looking up. 302 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,440 There's a lot of cool Da Vinci's. 303 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,600 Hers is ceramic, so it's like ultra special. 304 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,920 There were like 40 of them made, but the gold 1, the gold Da 305 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,000 Vinci perpetual calendars are more readily available and 306 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,240 they're also beautiful too. So it's happening I guess. 307 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,120 You'll have to see. Let us know what you think. 308 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:53,000 Would you go perpetual, annual, or neither? 309 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Or just calendar.