1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,520 My hot take is that this raid tear, which was poised to go 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:08,680 down as one of people's favorites of all time because of 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,000 the theme and the colorful bosses and some of the way the 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,760 bosses play out. I actually think this is going 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,080 to go down as one of the least enjoyed raid tears for the 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,880 Forsaken. For Lauderon. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:28,960 For the Karen Tour for Pandaria. For calendar. 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:36,800 To the burning region for Gilnaeus have not done for the 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Lich King. For the. 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:46,200 Sindora for the Alliance for. The Horn for Azeroth. 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,560 Hello, and welcome back to another episode of For Azeroth. 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,360 I am one of your hosts, the true villain Manny, AKA Manny, and I 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,440 am joined by the other two parts of the Triumphant, starting off 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,560 coming from, you know, parts unknown, we'll say Lex. 15 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Lex, how are you doing and how's the World of Warcraft been 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,080 treating you? It's good. 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,520 The World of Warcraft is treating me well. 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,320 I got I didn't do a ton last week, but I got back into delves 19 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:20,240 this week and because I am capable of admitting when I'm 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,040 wrong, I tried a tier 9 delve for the first time. 21 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:28,080 And I will say that even though I wasn't getting a higher level 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,920 gear reward, the fact that it was more challenging made it a 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,240 more fun and more rewarding experience. 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,960 So that was good. Oh yeah. 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,200 I'm, I haven't, I really should do things with my priest because 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,760 healing sounds like it's doing pretty well this tier. 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,080 But levelling I've never been able to manage alts. 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,880 It's just like I every couple tiers, like every couple patches 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,000 I'm like, oh, I can totally do an alt and I get them like 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,640 halfway to Max level. And I'm like This is why I don't 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,040 do alts and I never play it again. 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Yeah, I mean, I've finally started doing alts and getting 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,800 pretty deep into like, well, I mean the war band, I've got 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,640 Maine and three alts and the three alts are roughly there for 35 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:15,360 professions to get to keep things going. 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,040 So I've been, I've been happy with that. 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,040 But I'm glad that you are getting a little more challenge 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,600 out of Delves. And then let's go to the third 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,000 part, returning from about of illness. 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,200 I'm hoping you're feeling much better. 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,120 Sean, how are you doing? Good Manny. 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,680 I am a million times better than I was at this exact moment last 43 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,160 week. It was not a good scene here. 44 00:02:39,920 --> 00:02:41,840 I'll never eat another hot dog again. 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Oh no. It was pretty, pretty rough. 46 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Yeah, I'm doing. I'm doing good. 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,360 The game's doing well. We're rocking and rolling on 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:57,040 both NA and EU. Yeah, things are going well in 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,800 Warcraft. I feel like we can't say Lexus 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,600 and Parts Unknown anymore because I'm certain we've said 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,800 her state a couple of times. You don't know. 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,520 She could have moved, you know, I'm pretty sure. 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,960 I've posted my actual address on my Guild discord, so if you 54 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,800 really want to dox me, just go hop in the Timbermont Tavern 55 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,200 discord. I don't think we'll do that. 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,160 We'll leave. Places where you could have 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,640 doxxed yourself unknown, and we'll just let it fall into the 58 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:30,200 the fog of war that history allows. 59 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:32,920 You can do murloc noises that it's it can be on the list of 60 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:34,760 things that I probably shouldn't say out loud. 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,120 And then I say on a podcast, immediately I'm like, why did I 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,680 say that on a podcast? Well unfortunately you guys are 63 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,000 out of luck because I am going to go far less on the editing. 64 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Oh, I. Can. 65 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Swear as much as I want. I would say I. 66 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Mean I'll just bend the episode at a certain, certain point, 67 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,480 it'll just be like, well, that's just too much work and it won't 68 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,960 go live. So you guys, you guys test it at 69 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,720 your own leisure. I heard I heard Lex on another 70 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,920 podcast last week. Oh yeah. 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,680 That's how time works. I was on live laugh floor which 72 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,240 was very live. Laugh, Lex. 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Live laugh, Lex. There's no more when I'm around. 74 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,720 It's just me, Just Lex. Yeah, it was a great. 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,480 But you know, you get to live and you get to laugh. 76 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,640 So how was that episode? Oh, it was so fun. 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 It was I, I always have so much fun. 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,360 Jin is a lovely person to record with. 79 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,520 And we were just talking about the raid, which is very fun 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,720 because we're on the same raid team. 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,640 So we got to just, you know, like chat and, you know, talk 82 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,160 about what our team was doing and all the like. 83 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,760 Fun, different things. And the raid is the raid's a fun 84 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,560 thing to chat about because it's just a little silly. 85 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,680 You can just kind of get into the fact that it's a little 86 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,960 silly. Yeah. 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,880 I love live Lafleur. I love Ali and Jen, and I have 88 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,880 never had a bad episode recording with Jen. 89 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,040 I just think it's it's so much fun and it's so delightful. 90 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,920 So definitely go check that out and go check out Live Lafleur in 91 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,840 general if you haven't. Yeah, there's no better way to 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,480 enjoy listening to Lex than with a little bit of gin. 93 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:09,680 There you go, but speaking about the raid, we are now past the 94 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,080 Race to World First. We have crowned a winner and 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,440 everything. You were not here last week 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,760 Sean, so we did talk a little bit about it. 97 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,800 But I really do want to give you the stage to give your 98 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,480 impressions because out of all of us, you are the person who 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,680 was most up to date on everything going on and you have 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,520 the mythic experience from your own playthrough. 101 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,440 So how was the Race to World First in general and how is the 102 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:42,040 rate for you right now? The raid for me right now is 103 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,760 good. We're currently working on Styx 104 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,600 Bunk Junker, which is this tears Ovanax. 105 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,480 That's the big wall. Early on in the raid, the 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Blizzard said they weren't going to do that. 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,280 They did, yeah. So we're working on that. 108 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,480 It's it's caught some nerfs which help, but it's still an 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,000 extremely difficult fight that requires the use of a week or A 110 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,320 to properly do so. That's good. 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,120 It's yeah. But it's fun though. 112 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,200 The fights have been fun. Rick Reverb was fun. 113 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,960 We killed him last week, called in a car and it just fun. 114 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,880 And we're looking forward to the fights coming up. 115 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:27,040 But we also are understanding that the fights coming up will 116 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,560 fall off a bit in difficulty plus you. 117 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,440 Don't get to roll around in balls. 118 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Because we don't get to roll around in balls, yeah. 119 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,480 Other than rolling around on balls though for the for the 120 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,080 listeners at home that aren't diving into mythic, I've done it 121 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,720 on heroic. I haven't done it into mythic. 122 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,880 How does the weak or work? Like what's the Why is it 123 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,520 necessary? So you break the room, you put 4 124 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,920 four world markers down breaking the room into quadrants and then 125 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,720 the weak or assigned you what quadrant you roll on your ball. 126 00:06:55,160 --> 00:07:00,000 So when you get, because each quadrant has a scrap master, 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,160 which is targeting a player with an ability that will one shot 128 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,400 them if it gets off. So every ball has to get to 129 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,560 middle size and roll up your scrap master before that cast 130 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,840 finishes. And in order to do that 131 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,840 efficiently, you need to know that each one is accounted for. 132 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,600 So you do that by assigning quadrants. 133 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,640 There's not enough time to do that manually or by verbally 134 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,120 saying so and so take this so and so take that. 135 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,600 So you need a weak or to assign it. 136 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,680 And then there's also the two bombs in each quadrant to take 137 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,680 care of. So the Wiggori is essentially 138 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,800 puts on your screen for arrows that are color-coded to whatever 139 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,000 your quadrant is. And then you go and you're 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,960 responsible for the scrap master and or bomb in that quadrant. 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,080 That sounds. So fun, like I can totally hear 142 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,000 that that was not well tuned and that makes it less fun. 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,120 But like conceptually that sounds like a really fun like if 144 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,040 if it was maybe managed a little bit cleaner. 145 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Yeah, it's yeah. Sorry, I don't mean to like 146 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,760 define your experience for you. No, it could be. 147 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:09,960 It's not unfun. It's just, I don't know. 148 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:15,440 It's it's just irritating to know that yeah, it's not fun. 149 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,040 I don't enjoy it. That's. 150 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:16,880 True. Never mind. 151 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,640 It sounds terrible. It sounds really stupid, I take 152 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:20,600 it. Back. 153 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,840 It will be fun if it didn't like if, if you could just do it 154 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,040 right. Like in heroic, you get you get 155 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,760 assigned balls, people can just do them. 156 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,000 You grab a scrap master, you hit the bomb, there's 4 balls, 157 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,159 there's two bombs. There's two scrap masters in, in 158 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:36,440 heroic, I think maybe 3 depending on your its scales 159 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,280 based on your, your size, probably you can Yolo that, you 160 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,200 know what I mean? You can just go, you don't need 161 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,800 a week or to assign that. But we have to like we have to 162 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,840 update this week or a pack every single raid day. 163 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Every member of the raid team has to update it because it's 164 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,040 going to assign these quadrants and it's it would just be. 165 00:08:53,040 --> 00:09:00,200 And it's like, can we just design that bosses where, where 166 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,600 we don't have to make these decisions in such a short time? 167 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,280 Please learn, learn one lesson. Learn any lesson from these 168 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,600 bosses where we've had these problems in the past, like echo 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,040 of Noetherian. Just just please learn this 170 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,320 lesson that you need to give more time so the players can 171 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,560 compute it themselves instead of requiring a week or. 172 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:23,400 Or just assign it right, like make it so that the game it's 173 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,080 like you know, will come up and you can only go in your one 174 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,400 quadrant and. They're capable of. 175 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,840 I think what frustrates me the most, it's like you just have 176 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,440 kids. Either of you have kids. 177 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,080 I have a dog which. Is basically the same right? 178 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,160 We just left every parental listener by the way they all 179 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,880 like immediately signed off like never hearing this again. 180 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,200 I know neither of you have kids. I have a kid. 181 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,920 But it's like when you you tell your kid like this is what you 182 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,200 know, when you're done playing with your toys, you put your 183 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,760 toys away. And you watch them play with 184 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,120 their toys every day. And every day they put three of 185 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,320 their toys away. But they leave two of them on 186 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,920 the floor. So you know that they know to 187 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,120 put their toys away. You know they know because 188 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,720 they're doing it. It's like, I see you, Connor. 189 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,040 I see you. You're putting your toys away. 190 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,320 I'm very proud of you. Thank you. 191 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,560 You're great. But then they leave 2 toys on 192 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:13,720 the floor every day. Connor, why don't you put these 193 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,880 away? Oh, I didn't know. 194 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,680 I had to. You didn't know you didn't know 195 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:21,240 you put them away. One armed bandit and this, this 196 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,320 is what I'm getting out of this one armed bandit is great 197 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,720 visually, it flashes in giant neon on the sides. 198 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,400 What combinations are available to you that you can do that 199 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,240 won't cause you to put the boss into fraud? 200 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,560 And the enemies themselves have those arrows flashing on their 201 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 heads. So they, they learned you have 202 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,640 plenty of time to look and identify which ones to kill and 203 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,200 call it an obviously people are using we coral lists because 204 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,280 it's easier to track it, but you don't need it. 205 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,680 It's not mandatory because you could do it on your own if you 206 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:56,560 had somebody who was dedicated and you know, who was really 207 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:00,480 sharp could figure that out. So they know to put their joints 208 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,120 away. But anyway, that's, that's where 209 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,760 we're at. We're on, we're on Styx. 210 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,640 I'm looking forward to sprocket monger prog when Styx is done. 211 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,560 We'll see what happens. OK, but you just mentioned one 212 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:19,840 armed bandit though, and that's supposedly one of the hardest 213 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,240 bosses for its spot. Like that's boss number six. 214 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,960 One of the hardest 6 bosses in history is what people are 215 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,200 saying. I know different people have 216 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,360 been saying it. Wow had put out an article. 217 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,320 If you go over to Raider dot IO at the current time there's only 218 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,000 40 gills that have actually down that and we're now way through 219 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,520 week week 3. Yeah, I don't think I I think 220 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,920 you're mixing 2 narratives together. 221 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Styx Bunk Junker is the hardest fourth boss in history. 222 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,280 One arm one arm Bandit is not the hardest 6th. 223 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,960 It is a difficult boss, but I don't think it's been called the 224 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,320 hardest 6th boss in history. I mean. 225 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Not to generally quote this, but this is an article by Squishy 226 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:13,280 who was nice to meet but like only 30. 227 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,200 This is literally a day ago so hey, congratulations on 10 more 228 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,640 guilds making it through, but only 30 guilds have killed 229 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,440 mythic 1 armed bandit in 21 days. 230 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,120 Hardest 6th boss ever made is the title of the article. 231 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,040 And it's not just Squishy. OK. 232 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Right, I have seen some other. I think the difference is 1 arm 233 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:41,080 bandits difficulty is tuning it's HP and it's it's it's 234 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,720 health values and damage values of the abilities versus 235 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:51,320 complexity of the mechanics. And that could that Canon will 236 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,680 be dialed down, but yeah, but it's that. 237 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,440 And I don't necessarily have a problem with the 6th boss being 238 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,200 harder and then the seventh boss being harder and then the last 239 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,720 boss being harder 'cause you want a damage ramp up. 240 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:12,280 Yeah, but I'm. Also curious how much the 241 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,080 difficulty of sticks place in or like I'm not doubting that. 242 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,600 I I listen we tried heroic and on the second boss we were like 243 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,480 oh maybe we were a little under geared. 244 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,480 So like God knows I am not. I don't know. 245 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,600 I'm only pulling this together from context clues. 246 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,800 I am. One thing that I kind of am 247 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,520 curious about though is how much the heavy stacking of difficulty 248 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,440 early on would affect numbers. Because if fewer people are 249 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,920 getting past sticks, then fewer people are going to be getting 250 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,720 to 1 arm bandit even. Yeah, the same thing happened 251 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,840 last year with Oven Axe and Kyvesa. 4000 guilds got stuck on 252 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Oven Axe and then very few people killed the bosses after 253 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,480 that. And everybody was like, oh, 254 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,800 these bosses are so hard after this. 255 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,880 I was like, well, there's no teams even getting there. 256 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,400 That's just. And that goes to kind of the 257 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,280 deflated ending of the Race to World first, where with that 258 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,520 final boss having it get down by like 100 kills and then the next 259 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,880 one was like 50 kills, like less than 50 kills and then 104 kills 260 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,960 for the third, third kill. You're saying kill. 261 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,880 He's saying kills, but he means pulls for the lives, yeah. 262 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Yeah, my apologies. Pulls in order to secure the 263 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,120 kill where it felt much weaker than previous bosses, especially 264 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,160 boss #4 that you were saying with Bunk Junker so. 265 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,480 Watching for example, for example, Styx bunk Junker I 266 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:49,240 think was a 200 plus pull boss for Liquid and Galliwicks was 267 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,120 100. So the fourth boss was I think 268 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,280 it was 200, but it was like double the pulls. 269 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,000 That's I I could check, but yeah. 270 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Oh, I'm totally a liar. Because there's been, it looks 271 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,080 like, unless I'm misreading radar, IOI think there's been a 272 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,520 481 kills on sticks. But is that no, that can't pot? 273 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,240 Nope, there is. That sounds right. 274 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Yep. So that I that that to 40 is is 275 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,600 not it's not that there's. AI mean there? 276 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,560 Probably is a little bit of a bottleneck, but there's not a 277 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,880 bottleneck from sticks to one armed bandit, so. 278 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,200 Yeah. No, they are. 279 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,120 But there are all, they are all that there's jumps there. 280 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,440 It's they're very, the difficulty is not linear in any 281 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,880 stretch of the imagination. It's it's all over the place. 282 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,480 They have it's probably the worst tuned rate I've ever seen 283 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,720 for tuning. But yeah, that's get another one 284 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:41,720 in three weeks. So don't worry about. 285 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,680 It that that is what I'm what I'm hearing is that the tuning 286 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,480 through this off I've I've heard people saying that like, oh, 287 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,920 this race was ruined because of the the tuning. 288 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,880 And just to go again, this is radar IO. 289 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,200 You're looking at bunk junker being 114 kills for liquid and 290 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:11,720 on its first one, you're looking at mugsy being 149 pulls before 291 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,760 its first kill. And then yeah, 100 kill, 100 292 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:21,160 pulls on the dot to get the first kill for for Galliwicks. 293 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,440 And there is now that now infamous pose of of just 294 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,360 shrugging Max being like, what? This is it. 295 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,320 So there's definitely a lot of contention with this and you're 296 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,320 not, you're feeling it in your progression. 297 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,560 Yes and no. Progression for us is a boat on 298 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,560 par where it has been in the past, but at this point last 299 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,640 year we were four of eight and this year we're three of eight. 300 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:05,480 Yeah, so I don't know, it's just part. 301 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,480 I don't know if it's part of it's the Racer World first 302 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:14,119 hangover, but the raid itself has not impressed me. 303 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,480 I've not enjoyed my time with it. 304 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,640 Once I get AOTC on my EU Guild I won't be farming this every 305 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,280 week. I have no desire to to be there 306 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,240 and it just feels like it just misses the mark a lot. 307 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,000 I we need a heroic week for tuning Like we obviously, very 308 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,440 clearly need a heroic week for tuning. 309 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:39,840 Blizzard is incapable of launching a raid tier tuned 310 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:45,280 correctly for either the race or the real world without one. 311 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,560 We have to have heroic weeks back. 312 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,040 We can't. This is not sustainable in this 313 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,600 in this state. It's just not fun. 314 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,240 It makes me want to not rate like your fellowship was going 315 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,840 to be playing that. It's that frustrating for me. 316 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:08,280 And it's just because like I, I know they can do that. 317 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,800 I know they can know how to put their toys away. 318 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,520 You know, I know they can do it. So please just do it. 319 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,800 And then even when they make tuning change, they missed the 320 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,960 mark. They tuned miss weavers and sent 321 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,320 the tune, sent the patch live Tuesday. 322 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,480 But the nerf, they gave them a nerf because some of their 323 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,960 abilities are too strong, but they gave them a compensatory 324 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,200 buff, but they didn't actually put the nerf on. 325 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,720 They just put the buff on. So Miss Weavers went live with 326 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,760 the 25% buff when they What are we doing here? 327 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:44,240 Must be adjusted. Yeah, and Survival Hunters went 328 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,320 live with an ability that was only supposed to have a 10 329 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,920 second duration and I think they gave it a 14 second duration or 330 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,640 something like that. It's like there, there was some 331 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,800 survival hunter thing that they did like, I don't know, man. 332 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,000 I, I don't know. I'm I, I worry for the quality 333 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:02,760 of the game we're playing. I mean, that goes to a refrain 334 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,280 that Lex has been saying, beating that drum for many weeks 335 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,320 now. Lex, would you like to? 336 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,680 I was going to be very polite after our last episode and say 337 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,440 like, let let everyone think it in their own heads. 338 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:20,600 I mean, yeah, I, I'm, I'm concerned that, as I have said 339 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:26,280 every week, it's not that we put out content slow or it's not 340 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,600 that the Blizzard team put out content slower historically 341 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040 because they were lazy and liked to sit on their thumbs. 342 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,200 I think that there's a benefit to space and testing time both 343 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,920 for the sake of the employees, but also for the sake of the 344 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,640 game. I think that when things are 345 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,320 because you know, even if even I guess I should say even if there 346 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,880 is not an issue with the it's perfectly if there's not an 347 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,640 issue of crunch with the employees, that probably means 348 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,840 that the game quality is going to be affected even more because 349 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,320 again, it's not that it took it's not that historically 350 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,040 content took longer because the Blizzard team was spending all 351 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,880 of their time eating pizza right. 352 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,160 So if we assume that like either to put out content this much 353 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,640 faster, they. Either have to shove man hours 354 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,760 into a shorter period of time or do fewer man hours on patches. 355 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,600 If they're not shoving man hours into a shorter period of time, 356 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,400 patches are not going to be as well tested. 357 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,680 That's my take. I think that I think they should 358 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,640 slow things down, and that's not just because I want to cuddle my 359 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,720 puppy instead of doing dolls. Don't worry about that. 360 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,400 And to, to answer your question about the race specifically, it 361 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:39,280 was four days too long. The race, I, I, I, I famously 362 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,560 had to cancel my trip to Toronto because the race was still going 363 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,840 on on Saturday. And then they killed the bus on 364 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Sunday. So the race they, they, they 365 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,520 literally killed it less than 24 hours later than I needed them 366 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,320 to in order for me to have been able to go to Toronto for the, 367 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,560 for the event. So that also factors into my 368 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,120 feelings on on this tear in this race. 369 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000 We need a heroic back and I don't want a worst world first 370 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,840 that lasts more than seven days. I don't, I don't want it to go 371 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:14,240 over a reset. I, I don't, we hit that seven 372 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,720 day mark and I just don't care anymore. 373 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,600 I just want it to be over. It's not exciting. 374 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,560 It's not interesting. I I stopped watching like I 375 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,040 don't I'm not interested in it. Well, and the decision, I, I 376 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,960 will say very specifically the decision to layer a new patch 377 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,960 release and this content like, not this like community 378 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,080 organization, but there was going to be pulling a lot of 379 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:40,680 content creators in such a way that they did kind of block each 380 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,920 other out. Was not a choice I would have 381 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,360 made, especially given that they have this all mapped out. 382 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:50,440 It's like, I understand they're going worldwide, but I, I surely 383 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,440 do not think you were the only person who chose not to go to 384 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,920 the like. I'm I'm sure they were race to 385 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,040 world firsters who would have loved to go to. 386 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,000 I mean, I don't know where they all live. 387 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,520 I don't really follow the race to world worst, but like I'm 388 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,600 sure there are players who would have gone to the Toronto event 389 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,120 but couldn't because they were literally actively racing I so I 390 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:07,760 don't know how I feel about that. 391 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,320 I mean, but I guess that kind of is like how are they going to do 392 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040 multiple events globally where like they're flying everyone out 393 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,840 everywhere they're going to, someone's going to overlap with 394 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,040 something, right? Like it's just too much time 395 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,280 that has to be covered. Wait till you find out what's 396 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,600 coming up in Boston because I got accidentally added to this 397 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,640 group chat on with a bunch of Blizzard devs and they're 398 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,320 sending out all the secret information and I'm in here. 399 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,360 I don't think I'm supposed to be. 400 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,880 But he's OPSEC. But yeah, don't worry, Absec is. 401 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,000 Clean. Well, you know, Blizzard 402 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,360 employees have standards, so somebody's going to lose their 403 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,840 job over that. I'm sure other industries said 404 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,520 that it's slide, but Blizzard has standards. 405 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,440 That's right. Going forward though, we've now 406 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,880 reached the end of the race, world 1st, and with the close of 407 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,520 that race, we get a list of changes, class balances. 408 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,440 You talked a little bit about it, about how the mist Weaver 409 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:07,200 we're supposed to get nerves and compensatory buffs and that 410 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,640 didn't quite hit right. So we're they're going to have 411 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,280 to come back and hot fix that in. 412 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,640 But we also saw a number of these meta specs getting hit and 413 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,400 brought back back down and a bunch of these like specs that 414 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,720 weren't getting a lot of play getting some buffs. 415 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:32,640 Now in some cases it feels like even if it hit as they had put 416 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,880 it down in paper, it doesn't feel quite like enough. 417 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,880 Like demon hunters getting a nerf, Sure, that's fine because 418 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,560 they were incredibly strong and they got a a nerf to one talent 419 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,760 that reduced their or rather increased their Perry chance, 420 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,760 and that's being dropped a bit. But Death Knights, which saw 421 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,920 almost no play in the race to World first frost, gets a 4% 422 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,880 damage increase aura and that's supposed to be enough? 423 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,680 That feels wholly lacking in my in my book. 424 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,840 Well. My understanding from the death 425 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,040 Knights not, and this is only from listening to my previous 426 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,480 death knight friend who now switched to a Demon Hunter tank. 427 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,520 My understanding of why Death Knights aren't getting play is 428 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,880 because the Death Knight utility is about pulling things closer 429 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,760 to you, and there aren't a lot of ads in this rage. 430 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280 So short of adding new ads that was never like there, there's no 431 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,880 real way to make that like that. Utility just isn't going to 432 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,240 exist. Or or. 433 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,640 Fully redoing the demon the the the Death Knight utility. 434 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,640 There's an interview where they said we don't feel like Death 435 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,960 Knight needs to have a raid buff because the grip that they bring 436 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,280 is like their raid buff and then they implemented a raid where 437 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,680 90% of the ads cannot be gripped. 438 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,000 Yeah, I mean, we were just talking about bunk, bunk, bunk. 439 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Sticks. Bunk Junker. 440 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,880 Bunk junker and if you could pull those ads onto the boss 441 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,680 right and keep them gripped so they wouldn't fly away, I'd pull 442 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,400 death Knights in and just have them like staggering their their 443 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,760 grippy hands. So like there's there's clear 444 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,560 things you. Can grip the territorial 445 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,640 bombshells, yeah, but the and I think the hyenas maybe, but you 446 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,280 roll them up anyway. But not the scrap masters. 447 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,680 No, the scrap masters in particular, because those are 448 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,280 the ones that like rocket away. That would be the big difference 449 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,560 maker. And then if you could grip them 450 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,880 in, then you could also have one person with one ball roll over 451 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,760 all of them, right? Then you wouldn't have to assign 452 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,840 quadrants. Or am I tripping out? 453 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Yeah, but you'd also end up stunning the DK in the process. 454 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,440 It's just. Maybe it's worth it. 455 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,280 DKS are. Yeah, that's what they get for 456 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,520 being. I. 457 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,120 Oh yeah, I. Think that like if their damage 458 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:53,400 was high enough, if they were just bringing damage, people 459 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,240 would be like, OK, we're giving up some utility, but we're 460 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,720 bringing that, bringing the damage. 461 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,840 It's like Hunter's raid buff is a front loaded damage amp that 462 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,680 means very little when a lot of these fights really become like 463 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,560 the pressure points are at the end of the fights. 464 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,640 So like, I mean, there's spaces for it. 465 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,240 Like not every raid buff is like, I must have that. 466 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,560 So like when your utility isn't there, bring the damage. 467 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,520 But if you're not going to bring the damage or the utility, yeah, 468 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,880 I can understand that. My hot take is that this raid 469 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,480 tear, which was poised to go down as one of people's 470 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:34,600 favorites of all time because of the theme and the colorful 471 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,680 bosses and some of the way the bosses play out. 472 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,280 I actually think this is going to go down as one of the least 473 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,360 enjoyed raid tears of all time. Like right up there with like 474 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,320 Emerald Nightmare and Crucible of Storms. 475 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,200 Crucible of Storms was Crucible of Storms was the Nightmare. 476 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,120 Emerald Nightmare, I like, I think it just went so fast and 477 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,760 was so monotonous that that's why it was bad. 478 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,520 But anyways, yeah, I can. I can understand those examples. 479 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Wait until I tell you about how the skip functions. 480 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,160 Augmentation is getting a a a damage buff and it's and it's 481 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,120 nobody was bringing Ogg for its own damage, giving it a 15% 482 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,920 damage buff after you've like very much took in the taken the 483 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,680 time to gut its literal spec identity do any. 484 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,520 Of the listeners, I don't. Want to say slap in the face? 485 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,600 Do any of the listeners remember when I said by the end of this 486 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,920 expansion augmentation will just be a straight DPS class? 487 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,720 I'd love to be able to pull that that. 488 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,280 Find that clip and pull that clip. 489 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,200 Because I feel like we're almost there. 490 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,200 We're almost there. I mean, I, I, I go back to our 491 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,400 sit down where we were talking with Jericho and how what 492 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,800 augmentation really needs is competition in the space. 493 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Yeah, we need to stop listening to the 15 very vocal high key 494 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,080 pushers on Twitter who scream about how Ogg has ruined keys 495 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,680 for them and just listen to the actual player base who enjoyed 496 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:26,920 having a support smack. Like I get it, player poem got X 497 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,240 is upset that we bring hogs. We'll just give us more support 498 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,160 options there, but they won't support is dead. 499 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,400 We're going to, There was a one of the interviews in the last 500 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,200 cycle from a dev said. We don't think you guys want 501 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,880 support cycles, support classes. Which means we're not. 502 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600 We're they're gone, I'll go be Adps class guaranteed without a 503 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,520 doubt. Bar none, it will slowly have 504 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,680 all of its its augmentation stripped away. 505 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Well, and part of the issue is how we to my understanding 506 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,040 again, this is not saying that I actually do so you guys can tell 507 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,640 me that I'm just being a silly little fool who's pretending 508 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,600 that I know things I don't. But to my understanding, part of 509 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,240 the issue is that we like, it's just in how we track DPS. 510 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,640 And I, if I could wave a magic wand and make World of Warcraft 511 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,360 players less obsessed about numbers and like watching those 512 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,480 numbers, I would in an instant. I think it would make Mythic 513 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,000 Plus happier. I think it would make everyone 514 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,920 happier in general. But like, yeah, the fact that 515 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120 like tomorrow training Augie doesn't really fit into details 516 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,040 super cleanly. And it also doesn't really fit 517 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480 into logs super cleanly. So it looks like it's doing 518 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,480 really limited damage, even when like then you look at the like, 519 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,200 you know, other person that's burning. 520 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,200 So don't look at numbers. Everyone delete details. 521 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Everyone delete all of your add-ons. 522 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440 No more add-ons in this game. We should be Final Fantasy. 523 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Not really. Please don't please God, don't 524 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,240 make us like final. I mean, like it's fine. 525 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,120 There's there's benefits to Final Fantasy, but don't do 526 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160 that. As Tim, if you're listening, 527 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,400 that was a joke. Lex was joking. 528 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680 It was a. Funny thing with the with the 529 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,720 cooldown manager coming in 11 point 1.5, we might be heading 530 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,400 in that direction where they lock down more of it and you 531 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,080 might get your wish Lex or not really your wish, whichever side 532 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,560 of you and eventually ended up lying down on anyways. 533 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,720 I I do think that with sorry, I have to go back through all the 534 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,000 things that you said augmentation. 535 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,640 I know in logs you can delineate and see what they provided, but 536 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,760 in the in the add-ons that are live pulling that data, it 537 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560 doesn't show up. So yeah, you're right, that 538 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,920 information's there in some places and not in others. 539 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,720 And so people can do a snap reaction. 540 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:42,160 But I think that people now understand that Aug is inflating 541 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,680 your numbers even if they don't know exactly how much the Aug 542 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,040 player is inflating your numbers. 543 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:55,880 And the biggest issue with augmentation outside of the fact 544 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,440 that it was making tanks and healers more effective more than 545 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:05,760 any other class, was that the high end augs was all about 546 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,640 lining up the cooldown windows and such to get the most out of 547 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,480 it. Where the plug scenario, you 548 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320 weren't getting that much and so there was a huge variance 549 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,600 between the everyday play at home people and the like, people 550 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,080 who were absolutely kidding it out. 551 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,760 So it's been the balance issue since day one in so many 552 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,640 different ways that I don't think it necessarily had to be 553 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,200 really. I would argue that that, I mean, 554 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,960 we won't talk about it because everybody likes to think that 555 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,160 they could be on the PGA Tour if they just had enough time 556 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:47,040 golfing, but that that skill gap exists in every single class. 557 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,080 The best players in the world are playing a different game 558 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120 than anybody who's not in one of the top three guilds in the 559 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,880 world. If you're not in a top three 560 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,360 Guild in the world or an AWC champion, you're not playing the 561 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600 same game. They are playing those classes, 562 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,680 all of those classes at a level so much higher than you could 563 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:12,160 ever fathom that it was. It doesn't matter if it's Ogg or 564 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:18,040 fire mage or rogue like. They're just, but we don't, we 565 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,800 don't say those things. People say things like, well, if 566 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,440 I could play 16 hours a day, I would be just as good as Trill. 567 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,480 Yeah, I don't know if I like that's. 568 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,160 What I've had. The gear I think that I could be 569 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,720 in limit. That's right. 570 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,080 That's right. That's what they sound like. 571 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,600 Like. Yeah. 572 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,720 And I think that you're right, John, But I think that when they 573 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,680 make changes, it was hard for them to bring it in line at the 574 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,160 top end without causing it to drop further on the low end. 575 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,040 I think that was the issue. Like usually you can screw up 576 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,440 your rotation and it drops your your damage commensurate to 577 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640 that. But it's but with this, you 578 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:59,520 could screw up your rotation and that would be one thing, but the 579 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,040 person that you're also buffing could screw up the rotation and 580 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640 that would cause an issue and. The. 581 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,600 Combined mistakes between, yeah, exactly compounding it, right. 582 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,400 And so if it was I guess a buff class where the entire thing 583 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080 you're doing is just, I'm spinning plates, I got to keep 584 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,920 this buff up 24/7. And that's like what my rotation 585 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,400 is. So that it's a flat line of like 586 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,640 buffs. I'm, I'm not sure that would be 587 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,840 the engaging spec that people would want. 588 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,520 Like I hated total twisting back in BC I quit the game because I 589 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,960 was expected to totem twist and I'm like this is not fun for me, 590 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,720 forget it. I don't want to be thrown in 591 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120 with the melee group and make sure that my strength of earth 592 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,680 totem is down like that. That was never compelling for me 593 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,240 and I just left the left the game until Wrath switched up 594 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840 what shamans did. Back in. 595 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,960 BC yes, way back before then, but I'm just saying that was a 596 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,240 time when it was totem twisting and it was seal. 597 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,000 I forget what the hell Palens were doing some seal thing 598 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,840 around and you would have warriors that would jump between 599 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:16,080 stances and all of that jazz. But you know, if the as a 600 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,520 separate spec, it is there for some people to enjoy. 601 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:26,000 And that's what Sean was saying. It just, it just becomes an 602 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,800 issue where when you're when your contribution is so 603 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,000 dependent on other players, it becomes very hard to correct for 604 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,239 your contribution and what your what your contribution is being, 605 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:48,199 I don't want to say exploited leverage to get the final number 606 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,760 right. That's a multiple points of 607 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,360 failure. Yeah, that's true. 608 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,480 Beyond that, yeah, we got a bunch of classes that got some 609 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,720 changes. Again, we talked about the Miss 610 00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,440 Weaver thing. I do want to give a special 611 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,360 shout out to Holy Paladins that were really suffering. 612 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,000 They did a flat out buff. They did some very specific 613 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,120 buffs to like further give them some energy, and then they had 614 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,200 to come back the next day and give them even more buffs 615 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,760 because Holy Paladins were really struggling. 616 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,320 I haven't played with the holy paladin or spoken to any holy 617 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,200 paladin since these compound compounded buffs have come in. 618 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Do any of you know how this is landing now with the second wave 619 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,640 having hit? I'm seeing, I'm seeing some 620 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,640 shaking. The holy paladin that I play 621 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,000 with has been playing Holy Paladin for so long, I think 622 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,040 that you would have to pry that class out of his cold dead 623 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,360 hands. So I don't know how he's feeling 624 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,400 about it, but he's still playing Holy Paladin so. 625 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,360 OK, well, you know, the diehards stick with it and it's a better, 626 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,200 better thing. And I'm very happy for those 627 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:13,240 Holy Paladin enjoyers, those crusaders, if you will, because 628 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,040 you have people like Chrisette, that Sean and I know you have 629 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,120 people like your Holy Paladin friend that ride through the 630 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,920 lows. And now hopefully this is going 631 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,760 to land in a spot where they'll be in a much better position. 632 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,480 Healer's got a lot of adjustments to sort of bring 633 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,360 them more in line. I'm seeing this priest get 634 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,160 adjusted. Oracle's getting a big, big 635 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:43,440 shift and Holy priest being brought into a brought into line 636 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,600 a bit better. I mean, hoping that we see again 637 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,880 a meta shift because of these these changes. 638 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,720 But Sean, have we really seen a meta sort of like settle in in 639 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,840 the first 3 weeks? Seems really fast but it is 640 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,840 season 2. I haven't really been tracking 641 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,520 it, if I'm being honest. I know Vengeance Demon hunters 642 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,840 are are hot right now, but I haven't been tracking a meta. 643 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Yeah, the race really sucked the life out of me. 644 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,360 That was really, really disappointed. 645 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,080 Yeah, no, but like, you know what, let's hear it from our 646 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,880 listeners. I know last season we were 647 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,000 looking at the various statistics of like we're the 648 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,320 tanks and healers, especially the healers 'cause that was a 649 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,320 big hot topic at the beginning of Season 1 were. 650 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,800 And if you'd like us to check in on that, let us know. 651 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,480 Just join jump into the discord bit dot LY slash fast discord, 652 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,000 and we will look at that depending on the reaction. 653 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,920 Big reaction. Speaking of big reactions, 654 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,280 everybody has been talking about this DDoS attack. 655 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,520 So I John, I know you've been hurting after the race, the 656 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,080 world first, but have you heard about this? 657 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,600 So I know there was some DDoS attacks during the race, but 658 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,920 this was only fangs right? The really loud, obnoxious 659 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,640 content creator Guild that is playing hardcore classic? 660 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,480 That's them, right? Definitely the name and 661 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,920 definitely some pinon wrapped in with that. 662 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,840 And I guess they were rating and there was a deal attack happened 663 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680 and I assume I can only assume screaming into the mics followed 664 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,400 lots of. Content. 665 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,840 Yeah, OK. And then it was it was a no, 666 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,600 like somebody was specifically targeting them, apparently, and 667 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,240 Blizzard made the decision to roll back their deaths. 668 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,800 Is that right? They yeah, they're resurrecting 669 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,320 a bunch of characters, which they have said is they could do 670 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,400 on the discretion. Did we have to blame pirate 671 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,400 software for this one or was this separate? 672 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,280 I can't. It's so hard to keep track of. 673 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,960 The only fangs drama is where they did they. 674 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,760 Did the D dos happen because he ran away from a pole or did the 675 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:18,160 D dos happen because the DPS didn't stand in the fire and 676 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,320 help save Tyler? One I I I just have a hard time 677 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,960 remembering which scream fest was the cause of it. 678 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,600 They scream so much Manny. All they do is yell into their 679 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,200 mics. It's. 680 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,960 It's definitely that farming content from this. 681 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:40,720 Yes, I agree and clearly you have you have some opinions, 682 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:41,600 some. Opinions. 683 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,760 Some really, I just don't watch. I just mute and block all of 684 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,680 that. I don't ever see it. 685 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,720 I only read. The only reason I know it 686 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:50,440 existed is because Towelie tweeted about it. 687 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,200 Yeah. Yeah, this is again, this is 688 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,360 this is definitely informative of your opinions of it. 689 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:07,480 But yes, there was a raid organized to go and just as they 690 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,040 were raiding, there was AD Dos attack, huge hit. 691 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,720 This was on Sunday. It affected not just classic 692 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,320 hardcore servers, but also affected all of Warcraft 693 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,960 servers. I was in a Mythic plus on at the 694 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,400 time when it happened and obviously we didn't time that 695 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,600 key. It took us way too long to get 696 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,440 get back in. I didn't didn't need a res 697 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,360 because it's retail and I don't require that, but it affected 698 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,600 many, many players. Blizzard had said that this was 699 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,200 a one of the biggest, if not the biggest ones. 700 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,760 In fact, Kyvax went to the forums and called it an 701 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,880 unprecedented DDoS attacks that it affected their game services. 702 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:10,880 And so they made the decision that they were going to 703 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:18,400 resurrect some of the sorry many if not all of the characters, 704 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,320 right? And they stress that they may 705 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,920 elect in the future, but it is at the sole discretion of 706 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,880 Blizzard to make that resurrection right? 707 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,800 And they will consider it in the event of AD DOS attack. 708 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,920 This is not, hey, my Internet failed, I had a blackout. 709 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,440 This restore my character because it is part of it where 710 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,160 it's like, yes, these things can happen. 711 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,080 They might be outside of your control, but we are not 712 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,880 obligated to resurrect your characters. 713 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,320 And it has to go with the way that you approach hardcore, 714 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,080 right? Like you have to be willing to 715 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,560 let that go. And I know the screams and 716 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,880 reactions of the only Fan Fangs guildies there's. 717 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,040 Also quite a few screams and reactions and only fans. 718 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000 Sorry, I should have said that. I should have said that. 719 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:24,960 I'm sorry. There's like then I could watch. 720 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,280 They're maybe he's. Going to throw away this 721 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,680 episode. They're there for the content. 722 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,440 They are there for the content, right? 723 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,880 And that they they lean into it more. 724 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,240 But I think that if you're playing hardcore, like you can't 725 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,120 be attached to that. It's just like, hey, I made it 726 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,640 this long, I made it this far. That's the thing and it goes. 727 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,960 It's why I don't play hardcore because I would hate to go 728 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,200 through that experience again. I just, I'm not a classic 729 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,960 leveller period. I barely like levelling on 730 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,320 retail as it is. What about you guys? 731 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,920 Has hardcore ever appealed to you? 732 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,160 I, I, I fully don't believe I'd make it past like level 10. 733 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:14,720 I am very stupid, and I jump off many things and I pull very 734 00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:19,120 large groups. Yeah, I mean, that sounds like 735 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,560 devastating and heartbreaking to me, the idea that, you know, 736 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,600 like my game could bug and I could lose the character 737 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,800 forever. But that's why I don't play 738 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,800 hardcore. So no, it does not. 739 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:37,120 Appeal to me at all, John. I loved vanilla Wow and I 740 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,840 thought it was a great time when I played it, but I also loved 741 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,960 other things like not having a cell phone when I was a kid and 742 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:51,400 not having bills and, you know, vehicles without heated seats 743 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,280 and they're. I'm not going back to that 744 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,880 though. Like I the quality of life 745 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,320 changes that have been made in the game. 746 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,000 I went back and tried to, I even tried to play Season of 747 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:06,760 Discovery and I hate it. I hate it. 748 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,080 The leveling is so slow. It's so frustrating and there is 749 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,280 zero chance I would play a game mode like I play RPGs on easy. 750 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,080 There is zero chance I'm playing a game mode where one death 751 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,400 means I have to delete that character and start over. 752 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,520 I there's a a running joke in my EU Guild that even the most 753 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,200 minor of inconveniences is enough to make me quit. 754 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,200 And I, I promise you that would that would qualify, yeah. 755 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,680 You'd play hardcore. Hardcore. 756 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,120 When one of your characters dies, you no longer play World 757 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,920 of Warcraft ever again. Quit the game. 758 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,520 Yeah, I quit Warcraft. I almost cancelled my trip to 759 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:55,040 LFG because I have to install some cockamamie app on my phone 760 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:02,040 so that I can pay 1010 lbs to the UK so I can get a a digital 761 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,880 travel pass to say that I can come visit for a week. 762 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,480 And I was like no, no thanks, I'm good. 763 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,560 They're like just to sell the app and send them a picture of 764 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:21,880 your your ID like or F that. OK, understandable. 765 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,480 Yeah, well, not. That's reasonable, I think. 766 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,680 Understandable. Is a reasonable. 767 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,560 Reaction to needing to uninstall an app. 768 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,640 I've been there so many times. Yeah, like, I, I think it's 769 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,840 funny because sometimes it's the smallest annoyances that sting 770 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,840 the most. Like if if it's a big enough 771 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,440 problem, I'm like, OK, and roll up my sleeves and I'll get to 772 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,560 it. If it is a small nagging thing 773 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,880 that might set me off more than anything else. 774 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,480 Yeah, like it. Which is a weird inverse. 775 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,280 I went to the website, like I went to the website and it was 776 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,160 like, go, go here to learn about which countries need them. 777 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,080 It's spoiler, it's all countries. 778 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,680 If you're not in the UK, you don't live. 779 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,520 If you're AUK citizen, it's all of them. 780 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,640 So I was like, OK, fine. Well let me just sign up for it 781 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,840 here. I have all my information on my 782 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,680 computer anyway I can just upload it And it was like sign 783 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,840 up via the app is faster. Would you like to do that? 784 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,520 I'm like, no, I want to sign up on the website. 785 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,680 So I clicked sign up on the website and the next page is 786 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,200 like you need a cell phone to sign up on the app like why do? 787 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,120 You even give me the option. And I'm an only fangs creator. 788 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,320 I'm an only fangs. This is how only fangs happens. 789 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,440 Only fangs happen. OK, well, so we just. 790 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,520 Created international fraud. We I sent the information to one 791 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,440 of the guys in the UK and they just filled it out for me. 792 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:47,520 Oh dear God. Well, at one point, because of 793 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,960 all this, there were rumors that only Fangs was going to just 794 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,080 utterly disband because they had just reached that point. 795 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,080 I Who will do the screaming then? 796 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,920 Let's move on to other content and continue screaming on other 797 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,840 content. I know that the developers were 798 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,040 even taking to social media saying like how stressful it was 799 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:19,040 because of the like size and, and and just impact of this this 800 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:25,840 DDoS attack. I know that Blizzard is not and 801 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,280 this is part of the discussion that happened in the fast 802 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,120 discord. Blizzard is not going to put out 803 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,480 specifics about like where their guidance is or what will cause 804 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:40,200 them to take such action again. And part of the reason is just 805 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,600 because you don't want to put that information out there, 806 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:49,440 which will cause actors to then be like, OK, like I'll go close 807 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,080 to the limit, but not to the limit. 808 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:56,400 Or in some cases, go to that, go to that limit to cause 809 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,600 themselves to get the resurrection. 810 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,960 Like if such a thing, if somebody wanted to go to that 811 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,560 point, and for those of you who are saying, Oh yeah, nobody 812 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:11,960 would go to that point, we have people who are attacking people 813 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,040 that they never met over the Internet for no good reason 814 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,720 other than like vindictiveness to make their own kind of 815 00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:22,960 content. Was it Pirate Software's team? 816 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,400 Did they do the DS to get back at only? 817 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,760 Thanks for kicking him out of the Guild. 818 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,680 I don't know. Any of these words? 819 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,680 You know these words, you just don't know what they mean in 820 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,480 this context. That's true. 821 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,800 That's true. I do certainly know what they 822 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,920 what they and I. I'm feeling like I frankly is 823 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,120 almost making me want to because I love a good drama. 824 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,280 This is why I watch reality. TVI love. 825 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,840 A little. I love when people are 826 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,320 ridiculous. It makes me very happy. 827 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,360 It makes me feel. Better you need to go back and 828 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,680 look into the the pirate software Roach out start there 829 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,800 follow it straight through and then we'll start the rumor now 830 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,240 that it was pirate software viewers who launched the DDoS 831 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,360 attack against only fangs as a way to get back at them for 832 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,560 kicking him out of the Guild and. 833 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,080 It's so sad that that could happen because of the 834 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,960 demographic of Pirate Software's viewership. 835 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,040 Like they would be the straw. Anyways, that is too far down 836 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,560 the rabbit hole for this I'm. Going to send this tweet and 837 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,640 watch my account blow up. Oh. 838 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,160 My goodness, please. No, it's good and all all 839 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,360 publicity is good. Publicity tag for Azeroth be 840 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:36,600 like for Azeroth confirmed. But we're still seeing a lot of 841 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,920 a lot of stuff coming for 11 point 1.5, so hopefully that'll 842 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,840 give us better content than this drama. 843 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,200 But unless you guys have anything further to talk about, 844 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,800 I think we'll call it a show there. 845 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,520 No, I got nothing else. I missed you guys last week. 846 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,440 Thanks for a good show. Missed you too buddy, glad 847 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,360 you're here. Yeah, and next week? 848 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,760 Glad that you're feeling better. Listeners, I want you to know my 849 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,280 energy levels might seem a little low this week, but it's 850 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,240 because I'm just coming to terms of the fact that I'm going to 851 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,920 have to quit Warcraft because it's not fun and the game sucks. 852 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,600 I'm sorry babe, but once that's that's a joke, that's a joke. 853 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,560 That's a joke. Oh my goodness. 854 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,880 That's a joke. All right. 855 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,760 One thing before we go actually is for I, I don't know when 856 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,240 manny's going to post this, but if it's before 1:00 tomorrow, 857 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,320 1:00 ESTI think it's 1:00 EST. If it's not, I'm going to tell a 858 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,800 lie on this. If when the Blizzard Boston 859 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,160 tickets go live. Wish me luck and. 860 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,520 Is this still happening in America? 861 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,720 Yeah, allegedly and if any of you hopefully I'll be there, 862 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,480 fingers very crossed and I'd love to meet people and if not, 863 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,760 I'll probably be at PAX that day. 864 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,120 I'm gonna probably get packs that day either way, so hope to 865 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,120 see people. Best of luck with the ticket 866 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,640 gods. There you go, and whatever you 867 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,040 do, just make sure you come up to her and ask her a million 868 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,360 questions about priests. Not would Demon Hunter priest. 869 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,080 Specifically, it's like like in a church like be like, what's 870 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:15,360 the 5th? I don't Matthew 512 quote it. 871 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,480 The 1st and people that come up to Lex and say FAZ is my 872 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,560 favorite podcast get a full 15 second embrace. 873 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,520 The 2nd 10 people that come up and say that get a slap in the 874 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,520 face and she will not tell you which number you are when you 875 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,760 arrive. I do have some big dreams of 876 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,080 doing like. Somebody ahead of you? 877 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,600 Recording thing, I don't know if that'll actually happen, but 878 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,200 there's a chance I'll be doing a little a little something 879 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,360 something we'll. See, that'll be cool to. 880 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,640 See only Fangs recording. Yeah, exactly. 881 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,360 Like that's what I'm. Looking for I'm just going to go 882 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,720 in there and scream, see how long it takes until they kick me 883 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,080 out. Yes, yeah, changing her name to 884 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:06,480 Lex One. Until next time guys, may all 885 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,520 your hits be crits.