1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:06,960 I fully expected season 2 to come after BlizzCon specifically 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,920 because we are having an on stage MDI and AWC at BlizzCon, 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,240 which means we're having them like 2 weeks after launch. 4 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,640 Three weeks after launch, victory for the Forsaken. 5 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:25,520 For Lauderon. For the Karen tour for. 6 00:00:26,080 --> 00:00:30,480 Pandaria. For calendar to. 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,000 The burning region for Gilnaeus or has. 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:41,520 Not died for the Lich King, for the Sindora. 9 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:47,520 For the Alliance for. The Horn for Azeroth. 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Hello, and welcome back to another episode of For Azeroth. 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,440 I am one of your hosts, the true villain, Manny, or just Manny, 12 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,600 and I am joined, coming to us from the wonderful, wonderful 13 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,600 state of Minnesota. Wait, Lex. 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,880 Hello Lex, how are you? I'm good, I'm good. 15 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,680 If we're we're getting through it, we're surviving. 16 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,400 We're Vivin. We're watching videos, kids. 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,520 That's good. Let's get out the world of. 18 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,920 Warcraft Heating because apparently we're doing the 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,440 videos at noon. Yeah, yeah, that that's going to 20 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,000 be a lot of what we're talking about today. 21 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,480 Sean, what about you? How's the World of Warcraft 22 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,560 shooting you and the videos in the middle of the day? 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,920 I may have just blocked the wrong person on Twitter. 24 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,720 I before the show started, I was blocking trying to block 25 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,880 somebody awful and I may, but your block list isn't sorted by 26 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,480 when you blocked them. It's sorted. 27 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,440 I don't know what order this is. No, it's not even enough about 28 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,880 anyway. Mine, mine is huge. 29 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,480 So I'm I've been scrolling since before you started the show to 30 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,600 try and see a name. So if you're listening and you 31 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,759 follow me on Twitter and I have you blocked. 32 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:11,680 If you are blocked by at cartridge Bros and you think oh 33 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,440 I might have been the person he accidentally blocked, please 34 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,720 come to bit that low watch slash fast discord and let me know so 35 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,880 I can unblock you or. No, no, no, go to what's what's 36 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,680 the other what's the cartridge pros discord. 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,320 I do not need people that Sean has deemed worthy to block this 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,200 turning into the for Azeroth. No, please come in and let me. 39 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,160 I can't. You don't want the most toxic 40 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,600 people you've ever met just. No, I think. 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,080 If. Somebody goes and looks if I'm 42 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,080 blocked and they read through their own tweets and they're 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,840 like, Oh yeah, I get it. I know why he blocked me. 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,680 I'm a crawfish. Really you you think that people 45 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,520 that you've blocked are capable of self reflection and self 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,440 analyzing their their previous conduct and. 47 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Be like, oh, I get it. I believe other than that things 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,880 are great. I feel really bad about who I 49 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,040 may have randomly blocked That's going to be awful. 50 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,880 Someone's someone poor, some poor someone is going to be 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,520 like, oh, it's weird. I wonder why Sean blocked me. 52 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,440 I'm lovely I. Was I wouldn't make a joke about 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,280 like, Oh yeah, you think people are just sitting there. 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,640 But like, frankly, anytime I have been blocked, it's been 55 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:18,280 like the most unless it was well deserved, like unless I was 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,680 actively being mean to not that I'm mean to people on purpose, 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,360 but sometimes you'll feel a little mean. 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,680 But any other time if I get blocked, I like, it's the most 59 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,200 devastating thing that's ever happened to me. 60 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,600 I'm like. This is where we like Pan in for 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,440 like on to Lex, we fade over to like to Twitter and we have like 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:41,320 the rest of development or no? Curb Your Enthusiasm. 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,160 Curb Your Enthusiasm, and it's just wonderful. 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,760 It's so funny. Well. 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,960 I'll never know because I haven't been on Twitter in like 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,800 2. Years. 67 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,640 True enough. True enough. 68 00:03:53,640 --> 00:04:00,720 OK, But aside from Twitter chaos, what you were alluding 69 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,680 to, Lex, was the State of Azeroth video that came out 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,560 today. And this was roughly 1/2 hour of 71 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,120 what we can expect this year in the World of Warcraft. 72 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:22,280 Pretty good presentation in that this is building out of what 73 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:27,200 used to be just a post of a timeline, a road map that they 74 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,840 put out. And now we're getting a full on 75 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:31,880 presentation about this for all the things that are coming and a 76 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,160 little bit of like conversation about about it. 77 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,560 So I like, I like that. I think that more communication 78 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,160 is always better generally, though. 79 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,400 What were your thoughts? Let's start with you, Lex. 80 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,880 I am excited. I'm a little nervous. 81 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,080 There was a lot that was announced in the video and I'm 82 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,400 sure we're going to go over it with more granular detail. 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,480 My biggest fear and hot take Lex is worried the devs are taking 84 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,400 on too much. My biggest fear is that it's a 85 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,320 lot, right? We are seeing a consistently 86 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,000 really short patch time. I would argue that we are seeing 87 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,280 quality issues that we didn't like. 88 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,080 You know, we were always, nothing was perfect, right? 89 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,680 But it feels like things are getting a little messier and a 90 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,120 little bit more half baked as time goes on, and it seems like 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,160 they are just pumping more into that patch cycle. 92 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,720 And I am worried. But if they pull it off, it's 93 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,720 going to kill, right? There is some really cool stuff. 94 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,400 There's amazing stuff coming for Delves, which I'm sure we're 95 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,040 going to talk about in long detail. 96 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,240 We're getting cute little single boss rage, which would be really 97 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,760 fun. Like everything they said was 98 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,280 like individually really, really cool and really, really 99 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,200 exciting. So I am hyped and Blizzcon's 100 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,520 coming. OK, another attendee of our soon 101 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,480 to be attendee of BlizzCon. Sean, what are your overall fit 102 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,760 thoughts of this State of Azeroth presentation? 103 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,240 I was really happy with it. It I mean, it didn't give us 104 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,720 cross region spoiler alert. So but at this, but at this 105 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,240 point, none of them have given us cross region. 106 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,640 So I guess I can't be upset about that. 107 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,640 No, I thought it was great. I the trailer it, it felt like 108 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:22,520 exactly what I expected. And also with the the new patch 109 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,400 coming up, the new expansion coming up, like they're not 110 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,160 going to give us story spoilers for 12.1. 111 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Anybody who thought that was going to happen is delusional. 112 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,440 We'll come back to that. Keep going. 113 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,400 OK, we'll come back to anyway, I thought it was great. 114 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,880 I thought it was exactly what we needed. 115 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,360 But I, I, I, I'm not speaking from a community like I, I want 116 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,640 to super be be super clear. I, I, this is the case in every 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,840 time, anytime any has ever asked me a question. 118 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,960 I'm speaking just for me, and it was everything that I could have 119 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,240 wanted. I don't care about classic. 120 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,760 So the classic not getting a big announcement doesn't affect me 121 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,040 at all. I thought the trailer at the end 122 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,880 was gangbusters. Like I could just, they could 123 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,600 have just launched that and what? 124 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Put a play that on repeat for 30 minutes and I would have been 125 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:05,240 happy. That was amazing. 126 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,240 I'm going to start a blood elf. Actually I have a blood elf 127 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,800 rogue. I mean my first ever character 128 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,960 is a blood elf rogue. Anyway, I thought it was great. 129 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,560 I thought it was a good time. Plus Holly Longdale can't beat 130 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,480 it. Ian has it cost us and and not 131 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,000 once did they mention add-ons or UI. 132 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,960 So 10 out of 1010 out of 10. OK, OK. 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,800 So of course there was a lot to cover. 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,240 This show is primarily a retail modern show, so we're going to 135 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,880 be focused on that. But there was some stuff that 136 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,680 was there for Classic. There's a little contention 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,640 because what was there for Classic was short ended. 138 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,320 Looking at the road map itself, because it only goes through 139 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,640 part of the year, I assume that what is coming in the future, 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,040 which they said, hey classic we we've got some great stuff. 141 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,720 I'm confident to say we've got more coming for you is just that 142 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,800 they were not ready to announce it yet and that classic stuff 143 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,680 will come. Well, go ahead and. 144 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,840 The way that I've heard the little, you know, like Holly 145 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,600 almost saying something and then people being like Holly, no, 146 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,720 that little joke. People are primarily in my 147 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,600 spheres interpreting that as like it's going to be a Blues 148 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,880 con announcement or they're saving it for something big. 149 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,440 And so I they would not have teased something big is coming 150 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,280 that is like so close you can taste it, but Holly can't talk 151 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,360 about it just yet. And then I mean, I guess they 152 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,880 would right. They, you know, had let down 153 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,919 announcements in the past, but it, it really does. 154 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:39,880 I agree, Manny. It feels like they are making it 155 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,120 really clear. Like, hey guys, we don't have a 156 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,000 ton right now. But it's going to. 157 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Be big when it comes out. Was that not them cancelling 158 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,200 whatever that project was? That's what I assumed was 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,920 happening. Holly was going to announce it 160 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,080 and. That comes quietly on Friday. 161 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,680 Joanna Fairies, Joanna Fairies yelled from the side. 162 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:01,440 Holly, no, we're cancelling that right now. 163 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,920 That's what I thought. Isn't that why the classic 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,880 people are upset? Oh yeah, that definitely, most 165 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:13,520 definitely. But like in terms of just wild 166 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,200 speculation and none of us here are experts on classic, so wild 167 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,560 speculation. What are you guys thinking that 168 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:22,400 this could be? Are you thinking that obviously 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,720 they'll just continue pushing into future things like Warlords 170 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,480 classic? What point does it stop being 171 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,640 classic is, is my thought at this point? 172 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Or is it something similar to the seasonal stuff that we've 173 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:41,240 got, like the Seeds of Discovery or, or some other version of 174 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Classic Plus? Let's start with you first, 175 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,080 Sean. Got any harebrained ideas? 176 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,520 I definitely think it's cross region for classic. 177 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Cross region classic. Brilliant. 178 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Brilliant that. Happens in classic. 179 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Before it happens in retail, I will like, actually write in an 180 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,480 angry letter. I'm gonna I'm gonna e-mail 181 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,680 somebody. Yeah, I don't know who. 182 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:05,720 I don't know who I'm sending this to yet. 183 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,680 It's. Going to be support. 184 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,080 They poor support always gets the brunt of the the. 185 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,800 The yeah, man, that bot's going to be so unhappy when I read 186 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,720 your letter. I'm just going to like put in 187 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,160 AI, pass this along to a real person. 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Yeah, that crawfish is going to be some upset. 189 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,000 OK, well fine. I'll send it to Xander and then 190 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,320 Xander will know who to send it to. 191 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,840 But Lex, what about you? So this isn't what it's going to 192 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,200 be, but this is my like kicking my feet in the air, head in my 193 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,920 in my hands dream. So warlords next on track right? 194 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 So we were talking a lot in the discord about how warlords 195 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,360 actually have really cool lore. It just is not well explained in 196 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,640 game. I think I my again, big dream 197 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,920 that will never come true big dream. 198 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:54,960 It would be that basically they would kind of go into Warlords 199 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,680 and redo a lot of how they present information. 200 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:04,000 So give you cutscene like cinematics of garage crossing 201 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,440 over and like, you know, going through the Dragonflight stuff 202 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,840 and give you more excellent, like fleshing out, giving you 203 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,240 the story that you got. But it was only in war crimes. 204 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,960 If you read War Crimes, I don't follow classic enough to feel 205 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,800 like I can make an actual prediction. 206 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,960 I Yeah, I'm still not super clear on what happened in Season 207 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,080 of Discovery, except there were like rogue tanks or something. 208 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:36,280 So maybe they're going to switch up what classes the races can 209 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,240 be. I don't know. 210 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,440 Classic. Lex, if you're looking for a 211 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,960 prediction to make, you could join me. 212 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,240 You could tag team this cross region prediction I. 213 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Don't like being wrong, Sean. Eventually. 214 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:54,880 Eventually, someday I will be right and then I will point back 215 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,840 at all of these cross region references and say, see, I 216 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,200 called it. The year is 2099. 217 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:11,640 Sean's tombstone says, see, I told you I want to jump in and 218 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,960 join Lex on this, on this building out lore that was 219 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,480 missed. It would be so amazing to get 220 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:26,240 just like some sort of like interactive trial of garage, oh, 221 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,040 fight off the infinite sort of scenario and then just put that 222 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,360 in lore walking in in retail too. 223 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,680 There. You validated it for both games. 224 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:37,680 Everybody's happy. Yeah, I'm on. 225 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:39,480 I'm on board with team Lex on this one. 226 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,320 Come join us, John. Crossover Crossover realms into 227 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,560 the right side. No, I'm going to sit firm. 228 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,840 I'm I'm sticking to it. I'm sticking to it. 229 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,720 There's somebody. Listen, I'm not the only cross 230 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,280 region believer. There's dozens of us. 231 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,840 Oh, you know, what they're probably actually going to do is 232 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,520 they're probably going to do something with like garrisons 233 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,480 and housing being combined. Oh, you hate that? 234 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,440 I thought that was going to be a popular opinion. 235 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,200 OK, never mind. My bad. 236 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,880 And any means the angry, like the most disgusted face I've 237 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,000 heard in my life. I thought that would be the 238 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,280 like, Oh yeah, the garrisons. The thing everyone thought would 239 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,080 be cool and be like housing, but it wasn't. 240 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,480 And that now we have housing. What if we can buy that? 241 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,800 Never mind. I take it back. 242 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,760 I take it back. We're not doing garrisons and 243 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,800 housing. Yeah, let housing be housing. 244 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Let garrisons be left in the past. 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,760 That's it. So are you thinking the Warlords 246 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,600 of Draynor is not going to have a Garrison system? 247 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,520 It'll have a Garrison system. I'm just hoping that they 248 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,120 learned from Legion remix and they just kill the mission table 249 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:46,800 pretty much and kiss like it it. What a time sink. 250 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,720 I don't know. Anyways, as I said, we're not a 251 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,240 classic show. So let's let's talk about stuff 252 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,600 that we're we're more versed in the retail stuff and in this 253 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,240 timeline we got some things that were going to be coming up real 254 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,680 soon as well as things that stretched out into the air. 255 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,280 And I guess the first thing that we should look at is of course 256 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:18,080 12.1 is the first we're. Skipping Void Assault and Prop 257 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Hunt. All right, you know what 258 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,040 actually prop hunts worth talking about? 259 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,120 Void Assault I can't care, but Void Assault we'll talk with. 260 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,480 Things. You also skipped the 12.7. 261 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,480 Rate. Yeah, that's true. 262 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,320 I apologize. I I I am skipping the 12 point. 263 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,960 All right, let's talk. About Last Titan, let's talk 264 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,840 about. Yeah. 265 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,920 Let's start. Everyone thinks we should start 266 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,880 the last Titan. 12 Let's talk the last Titan, let's get the 267 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:48,080 last Titan. 12 point O .5 we have of course, these void 268 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,720 assaults the aftermath of what we're we have yet to even start 269 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,280 on our journey and we're talking about the aftermath of the 270 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:02,960 initial tier and they reveal no spoiler, no real big spoilers 271 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,360 that things don't go according to plan. 272 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,080 So now we're dealing with these void assaults and these void 273 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,920 assaults are things that are going to be happening in silver 274 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,160 moon in all different places. My immediate thought when I 275 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:21,360 looked when I saw this was for rack assaults 2 point O like. 276 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,120 So for all of the listeners who don't remember slash know what 277 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,520 that was, do you guys want to remind the listeners what for 278 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,400 rack? Assaults. 279 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:38,160 So in Dragonflight, just ahead of Dragonflight, yeah, there 280 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:44,000 were different areas that where you would fight against the 281 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,160 smaller enemies. And then you would fight up 282 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,920 until the point where you would summon the, the boss. 283 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,480 Farak would fly across the the zone and drop off the the mini 284 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,040 boss and then take off. And you would fight the, you 285 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,520 would fight that mini boss and then it would reset, repeat. 286 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,600 I do remember this now, actually, yeah. 287 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,720 But. But the players for the US but. 288 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,040 For the players that don't remember. 289 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,360 So I could see that this, this could be something similar. 290 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Obviously this could be just kind of like invasion. 291 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,520 I don't want to say invasion points because invasion points 292 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,680 you went into a particular you went into a particular instanced 293 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:35,440 area, maybe kind of like Legion assaults or the BFA enemy 294 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,760 faction assaults where a particular zone or area would be 295 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,040 taken over. There would be specific quests 296 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,880 that are for that for that area. And then a end of once you did 297 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,720 enough world quests that that were there, you would get a end 298 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,600 scenario thing. I actually would prefer that 299 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:59,040 more to the Farrakh assaults just because that though those 300 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:04,160 were both open world because you did World Quest, but like the 301 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,520 end assault thing, you would just queue in with stuff and it 302 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,920 would be like a quick little scenario. 303 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:11,760 I enjoyed those. What what do you guys think and 304 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,839 what would you prefer? Let's start with you. 305 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:21,119 Sean Oh yeah, I don't care. It'll be content. 306 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,960 I do once and then probably never again unless there's sick 307 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,520 trans mug tied to it and then I will do it until I have received 308 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,760 my trans mug. I This is not going to move. 309 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,600 The Feroc assaults did not move the needle for me. 310 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,720 This one, actually, I found them a little bit annoying because it 311 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,280 was like the weird, like you have to kill X of these guys to 312 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,520 get the key to do this thing and then that key opens this thing 313 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,520 and you have to kill it was it was too much. 314 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,920 You know, I can memorize an entire boss right from start to 315 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,520 finish, but I don't want to know how many of these things they 316 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,760 have to kill for what keys. So yeah, I don't I'll do it. 317 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,080 I'll do it once and then I'll probably I'll do it like just 318 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,960 until I have all of whatever the transmog, if the transmog is 319 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,880 good, if the transmog is not good, I won't do it at all. 320 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,880 But yeah, it's not going to unfortunately. 321 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,520 I mean this, this and now this whole, the the big theme from 322 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,840 this entire presentation was, OK, that's not really for me. 323 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,320 I don't care. But the things that were for me, 324 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:16,760 I really enjoy it. But this is one of the things on 325 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,920 my list that's just like, OK, sure. 326 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,000 I'm excited for the people that get excited about this types of 327 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,840 thing. So go Lex. 328 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:32,560 OK, Lex, is this for you? So when I was at this point in 329 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,920 the video, I got really confused about timeline and I thought 330 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,960 they were announcing a second pre patch event. 331 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,080 And as a second pre patch event I was like over the moon, right? 332 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,840 I was like Oh my God, they're giving us 2 little things and 333 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,280 one of them is a silly little dink around like play through 334 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,320 things. We're going to have fun, 335 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,960 discover people. We're talking about prop Hunter 336 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,120 in a second if you didn't watch the video. 337 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,240 And the other one is this cool little assault. 338 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,320 It sounds a lot like maybe like maybe it's me like the Legion 339 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,800 assault. And I famously love the Legion 340 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,880 pre patch. That's going to be so fun. 341 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,800 I'd love I was literally just thinking, you know, it would be 342 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,960 so fun if we were going around for pre patch instead and like 343 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:03,280 finding little pockets of void and picking it up. 344 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,600 That'll be a perfect pre patch event. 345 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,440 I'm I can't believe they're giving us another. 346 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,920 And then I understood the timeline. 347 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,240 I realized that was not what was occurring. 348 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,320 I think it's a 12 point 0.5. Honestly, I think I am going to 349 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,880 be too busy doing actual World of Warcraft things to do little 350 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,640 jump around and find the assaults. 351 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,800 I unless for example, it was a gearing opportunity, I don't 352 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,560 really anticipate spending a lot of time in it. 353 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,080 We'll see. Yeah, I think it would be a 354 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:41,160 better pre patch all I think. I I like the concept pre patch 355 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,480 of like an assault showing up in various areas and you going out 356 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,240 to those areas, especially if they were to make it a little 357 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,080 bit wider stretch instead of just being like in the Eastern 358 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,880 Kingdoms and calendar. If it was like they're attacking 359 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:04,240 dragon dragon rest or they're attacking outlands. 360 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,520 Well, maybe not outlands, I don't know. 361 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,880 Anyway, just going all over the world to these void related 362 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,200 places. Like you could do Pandaria and 363 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:18,720 Oldham again, Oldham again. But I think that you're you're 364 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,320 both kind of touching on something that I've been 365 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,880 feeling. And maybe I've said it before on 366 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,960 the show, but I think that with the cadence of stuff that comes 367 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,160 out as as they've been coming out, they don't have much teeth 368 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,720 to them. They don't have much depth to 369 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,000 them. They they are really just sort 370 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,360 of like flashes in the pan that like Blizzard used to be easy to 371 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:47,320 understand, hard to master. Like there would be like a depth 372 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,840 to these systems that they'd throw out. 373 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,080 And I don't feel like they've been doing a lot of these, like 374 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,640 some of the really bad ones are whatever the hell we did in 375 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Arathi when the when the Nerubians invaded again, like 376 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,240 just random, like, oh, yeah, here's something you need to 377 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,520 waste some time and get some gear. 378 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,880 And I'm hoping that this isn't it like that. 379 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,040 But we will see. As you say, Lex. 380 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,880 And then the other part of it is, yeah, you're right, Sean. 381 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,000 They are putting out things for just a very wide audience. 382 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,560 There's things for everybody. And they keep on trying to like, 383 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,200 bring every new people into this big tent. 384 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,760 So you're right. Maybe if this isn't for me, I 385 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:39,080 can try the other thing. And that other thing is a hide 386 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,520 and seek where you turn into various pieces of decor. 387 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,440 Tell me about this 'cause I apparently want to skip over and 388 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,440 go right to 12.1. So you tell me what this is, 389 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,000 Sean. Me. 390 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Yeah. Tell you what the hide and seek 391 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,160 mean. OK, Lex is really chomping at 392 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:58,960 the bit. Let's give it the length. 393 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,840 No, hold on. I can do it. 394 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:00,600 I can do it. I want to. 395 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,720 I just want to make Lex wait. I could do it. 396 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,600 So in Silver Moon, people are going to be doing this hide and 397 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,760 seek media game where they can turn into housing props like 398 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,880 plates of cheese and they hide and then other people are going 399 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,920 to try and find those plates of cheese and that's, that's the 400 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,680 game. It's going to be so fun. 401 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,160 Because you can't really meta that because it's going to be a 402 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,600 PvP game, right? So it can't be. 403 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,360 It's not one of those things like, oh, there's like you 404 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,760 always do this, you always go here because everyone be like, 405 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,080 oh, it's the player, she's over there. 406 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,520 So you're going to have to be really creative. 407 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,840 Assuming this actually is the thing that gets kind of big, it 408 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,880 seems like fun, right? So I can't imagine it's going to 409 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,560 be completely dead. And yeah, you get to run around 410 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,200 and like transform into things and then half the people are 411 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,480 transforming, the other half are running around. 412 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,840 I think it's going to be really fun. 413 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,000 I am this. If I am going to waste time on 414 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,720 12 point 9.5, it's going to be prop hunt. 415 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,960 Also, if prop hunt is bad, I'm going to cry. 416 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,440 I'm going to cry my eyes out. I'm so excited about this. 417 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,480 But nobody will know because she will be pretending to be a pot 418 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,960 while she doesn't. It's really overfull and it's 419 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,320 like all this water is coming out of. 420 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:10,600 It it's me. Yeah, so prop hunt 5V5 PvP hide 421 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:16,200 and seek event where one team will turn into the decor and one 422 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,640 team will go and seek them out. I it is definitely not something 423 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,360 to push back the void as Ian Hazakosis had said. 424 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,760 It is light hearted and fun and I like it because it's something 425 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,800 that you can take out of the expansion and do in future 426 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800 places. They can add different 427 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,440 locations. So not only is it Silver Moon, 428 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,800 but it's also the neighborhoods. I think the neighborhoods are 429 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,400 going to be kind of crazy because if people set up their 430 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,960 yard and you're like in that yard, I don't know, but I assume 431 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,000 that it's just like some instant set version that with a smaller 432 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,560 area that to seek in. I'd like to make a suggestion if 433 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,920 there's any fascinative. If you're listening for 434 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,040 Halloween, can we have a reverse prop hunt where the cheese tray 435 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,200 menacingly chases down the people and tries to catch them? 436 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:17,400 Michael Myers I. Think that's amazing shot Yeah, 437 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,840 yeah, that's the the cheese. The cheese board drops, the 438 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,800 cheese just holds the knife and starts coming after you and 439 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,280 like. Yeah, but slowly. 440 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,160 They can't run. They can only walk slow. 441 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Oh, never mind, I can't do it. OK, so that is 12 point O .512. 442 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:46,160 Point O .7 would be the lead up to the 12.1 and that includes A1 443 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:53,480 boss raid that they're adding. What's the expectations for 444 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,280 this? What are your fears for this? 445 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,040 Let's start with you, Lex, since Sean Bogart and your thing. 446 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,520 Yeah, too much. My fear is it's too much. 447 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,200 My fear is that like, I'm assuming we'll be well into AOTC 448 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,600 by 12 point 0.7, but if not, that's going to suck, right? 449 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,760 The teams that are still pushing and, and, or like who are still 450 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,800 working at Mythic, That's going to be a really complicated 451 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,840 conversation to have, especially since there's already 3 separate 452 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,080 raids. And then like all of a sudden 453 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,640 you have to have a like sit down with your officers every single 454 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,920 night. Like OK, which one are we doing? 455 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,600 Like are we going to start the new one because everyone's 456 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,000 excited about it? Are we going to keep working on 457 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,560 the hard ones? We've, you know, have been 458 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,760 beating our heads against the wall. 459 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,200 I've heard a lot of anxiety about the feedback from raid 460 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,120 testing in like official midnight not being listened to 461 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,840 enough. So now we're adding in another 462 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040 one. That's concerning, right? 463 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,920 Like again, I I'm just worried it's too much. 464 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,960 I'm worried it's both going to feel like a lot for the players 465 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,240 and it's also going to be a lot for the devs and just all 466 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,160 together it's just going to be too much to put in a patch. 467 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,080 However, if it's not, it's going to be sick right? 468 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,800 If you're done with AOTC and you're usually the .7 is around 469 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,760 when the team starts kind of winding down, I'm hoping this is 470 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,880 not going to be like a final boss level of one boss. 471 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,640 I'm hoping it'll be somewhere like mid range, so it's not A1 472 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,640 nighter and maybe actually, as I say that I usually the mid rate 473 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,840 of kind of our one nighters. So like I would like this to be 474 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800 like a few nights, but not so many that it's you know, just 475 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,720 another damn final boss to beat your head against for ages and 476 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,280 ages right, like not easy, but not the most complicated thing. 477 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,720 Hopefully they can you know, if you be a cool way to do like 478 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,840 mechanics I don't usually have to play with because again, it's 479 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,560 just a single boss right, you're not going for anything. 480 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,400 I think it could be a really cool way to pump up a time that 481 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,160 tends to be a little bit slow. I think if that is not what it 482 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,160 is at the .7, I think this is going to be really complicated. 483 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,640 OK. Well, our concerns there. 484 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Sean, your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty much 485 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,160 with Lex, I think so it is we'll by 12 point 0.7 most teams are 486 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,520 in farm at that point and a lot of teams are at the we're only 487 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,640 doing the skipped bosses point of farm. 488 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,880 I think it's all going to go down to difficulty. 489 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,360 If this is a so this is from a two night a week mythic team 490 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,520 perspective. So if this is a one to two week 491 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,400 Prague, so two to four raid nights at about 15 pulls a 492 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,160 night, so a 30 to 60 pull boss, I think it's fine. 493 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,720 I think it's a fine thing to add to the end. 494 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,640 You definitely don't want it to be too difficult. 495 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,800 This shouldn't be a wall because at that point of the season, 496 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,520 people are winding down. People are looking to get ready 497 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,960 for their breaks, to get ready for next season and this is 498 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:31,800 fine. I'd like to see it launched with 499 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,440 the same item level as the rest of the raids. 500 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,880 And I really desperately hope it doesn't include a turbo boost at 501 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,320 the same time as this because I'm so, so tired of turbo boost. 502 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,000 But there's none mentioned on the road map. 503 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,520 So I am hopeful, But I think it comes out of tuning. 504 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,200 If if it's tuned super hard, I think that it feels kind of bad 505 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,960 to inject it when they do. But if it's tuned at like a 506 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,800 medium level, like a, a middle mid tier boss level, and I think 507 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,640 it's fine to have it to give a little bump to folks, you know, 508 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,800 trying to get them ready to go for for the next patch. 509 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,400 It's all going to come out of tuning. 510 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,000 I'm, I'm not, I'm not as worried, I don't think as Lex 511 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,120 is, but there is, I do definitely hear her concern and 512 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 if it comes out tuned really hard, I could see, I could see 513 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:23,200 it being a flop. OK, Yeah, I think it's going to 514 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,040 be for those teams that are trying to get things done before 515 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,680 the new season comes in. I question how difficult they 516 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,960 can really make it if it is also considered part of the current 517 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,400 tier and therefore you don't get your like cutting edge AOTC for 518 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,800 that particular raid once the new season comes in. 519 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,880 That to me just means that it seems more likely that they'll 520 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:55,280 tune it closer to a mid boss raid than an end boss raid. 521 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Obviously the race, the world first teams and stuff that have 522 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:06,200 been on farm for a while, they will not have the as much 523 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,840 difficulty as progging through this. 524 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,360 But they'll also have the questionable decision of do we 525 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,720 host this as an event? And I don't think that happens 526 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,200 when you're just about to wind up into like the main next tier. 527 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,640 So this might be just something that we see as a raid from home 528 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,680 sort of try. Kill it. 529 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,160 There will 100% not be an on location event for this this. 530 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,560 This could be a cool world's first sort of raid though, in 531 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,240 the sense that this might be the one time that a non echo non 532 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,920 limit Guild did. I name one of the old ones that 533 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,440 doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, it's, it's liquid now. 534 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,640 That's OK. We we need the Spotify comments 535 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,600 we're going to get from that are good for the algorithm, so let 536 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,880 them come in. Love it. 537 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,600 I got to be wrong more just for the sake of this that I think 538 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,960 that's always the the cool thing about the early bosses and the 539 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320 race of the world first right is that that I mean, part of that 540 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,160 is because the big teams are doing splits and stuff. 541 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,160 And so my guess is they'll still be steamrolled by the people who 542 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840 have been dedicating their entire life to this because it's 543 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,840 their paid job. Wouldn't it be cool if we could 544 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,840 get a world's first kill, like a true world's first kill from a 545 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,760 smaller team because it was only one boss raid? 546 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,200 And so you actually can be like, all right, we're going to grind 547 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,360 really hard. Everyone's going to call out 548 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,600 sick from work, but it's going to be like only for two days, so 549 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960 who cares? We get a return of pieces. 550 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,720 Pieces had a world first kill on UNAT, so it'd be nice to see 551 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,160 them come back and get a world first kill on Smorgar, whatever 552 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,040 his name is. Also, we're all assuming that 553 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,680 there will be a mythic version of this, but there's a 554 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,760 possibility where it launches and it only has normal and 555 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,920 heroic. Really. 556 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Yeah, if you look at the anniversary event with Black 557 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Rock Depths, it only had, it did not have a mythic version, it 558 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,280 only had heroic and that came out like in the middle tier. 559 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,440 So it's possible that especially if they're using the one in 12 560 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,920 point 1.5, which we'll get to if they're using that as a vehicle 561 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,680 for story driving as opposed to difficult content, And also 562 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,200 launching it as a heroic only raid would allow them to avoid 563 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,960 the question of do we put increased item level on it for 564 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,400 mythic or not? Because it doesn't matter if 565 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840 it's heroic. Yeah, I I have nothing to 566 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,160 indicate that it won't be mythic, but I'm just saying that 567 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,360 that that could potentially be something that they do where it 568 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,520 just becomes heroic. Yeah, it's a it's a good thought 569 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,160 It there's like background for it. 570 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,280 So I like it. OK. 571 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Sean, do you want to take us to 12.1 point O since I fumble 572 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,520 that? Yeah, 12.1 point O, we're in a 573 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,240 total surprise to no one. We're getting a second patch at 574 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,480 midnight. 12.1 is coming just before BlizzCon, so it'll be 575 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,680 about that five month mark from the start of Season 1. 576 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640 And they were very light on the details, Ian said. 577 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,240 We don't want to give any story spoilers away yet, but we're 578 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,520 going to have a new zone, new raid, new dungeons, new delves, 579 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,560 new world boss housing, social and UI updates. 580 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,280 Important to note, that's the first time on the timeline that 581 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,720 they mentioned UI updates. So the UI you have now is the 582 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,400 one you're going to have till 12.1. 583 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,760 Yeah, I, I, we're definitely going to Aerithor, I think over 584 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,240 there across the sea or to some zone we've not heard of and not 585 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,800 expected, as is tradition. Yeah, at this point, I don't, I 586 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,760 don't take any bets. It's just like and we're going 587 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,040 to Aspoliosia. Yeah, yeah. 588 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800 Oh, Aspoliozia is a very fun spot. 589 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,160 That's a good. That's a deep cut. 590 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,640 For those of you who don't know that is. 591 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,960 The It's too deep. Nobody wants to go away. 592 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280 Yeah, it's very deep. Yeah, Season 1, Season 2 is 593 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,440 coming. I this this was a surprise to 594 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,640 me. This was the first genuine 595 00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:00,840 surprise of the presentation. I fully expected Season 2 to 596 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:06,320 come after BlizzCon specifically because we are having an on 597 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:13,040 stage MDI and AWC at BlizzCon, which means we're having them 598 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,680 like 2 weeks after launch. Three weeks after launch? 599 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680 Because BlizzCon is September 12th, you're not going to launch 600 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,880 this raid much sooner than like middle of August. 601 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,880 I think this is probably the latest you can do this and still 602 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,880 have time for race to roll first before BlizzCon. 603 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,520 So it's actually maybe a little bit shorter than five months if 604 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,560 we're launching like start of August area. 605 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,600 But yeah, it's it's about that five month mark. 606 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:48,000 It's coming soon. Oh yeah, it's probably goblin. 607 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,960 Goblin graphics is in the chat here of the live show. 608 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,600 If you want to see the live show, you can get the address 609 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,360 for it at bit dot LY slash faz discord. 610 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280 You can watch us record live. There's a fun pre show where Lex 611 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,760 has a lot of curse words. But yeah, he's mentioning that 612 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,960 it might be the goblin zone, that troll or that troll area, a 613 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,560 toll Uthak or whatever it is off the coast of Queldenasse. 614 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,120 So it could probably, it's probably going to be that. 615 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,719 That's actually now that you say that, I think it's that I that's 616 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,040 what it is. I would hope so, because that 617 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,080 would make more sense than. I was looking forward to as a 618 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:34,360 palusia. Yeah, I I would like more 619 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,199 coherency in the story. So that would make more sense at 620 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:43,800 least we'll see where they go and how they develop it. 621 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,800 But Ian was light on any kind of details because obviously he 622 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,840 doesn't want to give story spoilers and and that, but it is 623 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,560 a continuation of this light versus void. 624 00:34:53,960 --> 00:35:00,160 So maybe it's more light focused in like trolls versus light 625 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,120 would be kind of cool. Not a motif that we've seen 626 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,120 before or even just like light infused trolls would be kind of 627 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,760 crazy for silver moon to deal with where it's like, wait a 628 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,320 second, they're using the same power as us. 629 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:21,120 We the bad guys here. I could I could give an entire 630 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:26,040 win this expansion launches. I will give a tirade about 631 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,040 Silver Moon's relationships with the trolls, but that is a 632 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,360 different episode. Next what? 633 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:39,760 What are your thoughts on 12.1? Without more information it's 634 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,640 hard for me to feel like I can speak confidently about it. 635 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,080 I'm curious, So I was wondering because one of the things it's 636 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,600 housing social and UI updates and we jumped on the fact that's 637 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,120 the first time they mentioned UI updates. 638 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,360 I'm wondering what the social updates, if that's when they're 639 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,920 anticipating they're going to bring in the Wow Ambassador 640 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,960 program, which I realized I tried to Google once the video 641 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,760 dropped and it wasn't out yet. So I'm trying to read an article 642 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,240 as we speak. But essentially, in short, it's 643 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:09,760 a way to nominate people who are like really good community 644 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:17,440 members and then those people help bring new players in and 645 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000 amplify the like, like make the game more fun. 646 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,880 Which there's a little snarky part of me that's like, oh, so 647 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,360 you don't have to pay GMs. But I didn't say that. 648 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,760 Anyway, I'm not sure if that's it really sounds like this. 649 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,080 That's a program they intend to do on launch. 650 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,360 So I'm curious what the social update is if it's not that 651 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,120 because it was apparently a big enough deal they wanted to put 652 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,320 it in. But it's probably that. 653 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,400 I don't know anyway. If it is the ambassador program, 654 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,480 Vasdev, anybody at Blizzard, if you can hear me, please vet the 655 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,120 crap out of these people. I really. 656 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680 The Ambassador program starts February 26th. 657 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,520 OK, OK, so it's definitely not I like a lot. 658 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:02,880 Yeah. Oh yeah. 659 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,400 I'm, I'm, I'm a little the the the ambassador program. 660 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,760 I'm curious how it's going to. Go well, they said they were 661 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,720 getting a friends list and everything that. 662 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,080 Oh, maybe that would make sense. Anyway, I don't know. 663 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,520 I thought it was interesting that it was something. 664 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,800 I don't remember them mentioning anything specifically that would 665 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,120 cover that, but apparently like there is a thing they're 666 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,160 planning. Hey, Sean, you want to say what 667 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,400 you think it might be? It's not. 668 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,840 I mean, it's not. Going to be, they would have 669 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,200 announced. That. 670 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,640 By now, yeah, the specifically for the ambassador program, so 671 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,960 it, it's a a growth of the community Discord program that 672 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040 was started in the EU region and it's now being expanded 673 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,640 worldwide. That's the ambassador program. 674 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,040 In order to be an ambassador, there's two different ways. 675 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,080 Number one is you are a member of one of those one of those 676 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,720 community discords and you are nominated by that community 677 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,600 Discord to be an ambassador. So they already have some 678 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,840 ambassadors selected from these communities that are part of the 679 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,280 community Discord program that are moving forward into 680 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,040 midnight. The other way is to apply. 681 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,440 There's a link where you can apply to both have your Discord 682 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,440 included and to apply to become an ambassador yourself. 683 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,840 And then someone on the Blizzard team, I guess will choose from 684 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:19,040 those applications based on Twitter and various response to 685 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,240 a tweet. Is that the application? 686 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,040 A lot of the applications getting in now are are quite 687 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,840 good. So that's there will be vetting 688 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,400 on it. Yeah. 689 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,200 I assume it's going to be a lot like if you were one of those 690 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,280 people who like likes to help new players and sign up for 691 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,640 that, like the you see the murlocs on people's heads. 692 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,760 It'll be a lot of people like that I think that are applying 693 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,760 for it. If you don't like helping new 694 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,640 people, don't apply, don't apply for this. 695 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,480 And if you're in a Discord, that's one of the community 696 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,600 discords that's part of this, that's not been rolled into this 697 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200 ambassador program and you get nominated because you're friends 698 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,040 with the people that run it or whatever, and you don't like 699 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,840 helping people, don't just say yes. 700 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,880 It's not like one of those things that you strive to get 701 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,200 and be like, oh look, I'm an ambassador, but I'm also a Dick. 702 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,280 So please, please 'cause I think this program could do a lot of 703 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,200 good for new players. And I desperately want to avoid 704 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,600 people that aren't super altruistic putting their names 705 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,000 in. So don't accept the nomination 706 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,520 if you're not like that, and don't put your name in if you're 707 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,520 like, kind of a Dick, don't do it. 708 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,200 And even if you are super altruistic, don't put your name 709 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,280 in or accept the nomination if you don't have the bandwidth. 710 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080 Like helping people is great, but if you do not have the 711 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,160 energy for it, help yourself first. 712 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,080 Like you're not going to do yourself any good. 713 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,760 You're not going to do anybody any good if you're burnt out. 714 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,840 And then people are coming to you because you're an 715 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,920 ambassador, right? So I'm glad that this is put 716 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,560 forward in the way that it is. It is for the people who are 717 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,440 looking to help that that I'm just worried that some people 718 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,160 are going to see it as like a blue check mark and be like, I 719 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,560 got to get it because it's going to make me look more prominent. 720 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:14,400 Please don't. As for the social update, they 721 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,400 said they were redoing the friends list and stuff. 722 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,400 That's all well and good. What I'm more concerned with is 723 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,800 ignoring section and filter section. 724 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:32,600 It would be wonderful if I could filter trade chat to just ignore 725 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,440 certain words. If your message has a phrase in 726 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,680 it, just completely, immediately just muted. 727 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,120 I don't need to block that person, but muted. 728 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,480 I am one of those people who have have hit the upward limit 729 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,560 of people on my ignore list multiple times. 730 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,880 Like we've all been there in trade chat and it's just the 731 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,080 wall of wanna run this? Wanna get your 12 plus? 732 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,120 Wanna wanna use my services for whatever profession I'm Hawking 733 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,400 like and we leave, we leave services and they're in trade 734 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,920 and we leave trade and they're we're putting this crap in 735 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,000 general and we report and block and report and block and then 736 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,240 eventually it's just like you've you've reached the the limit. 737 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,040 So just a nice filter system, I think would be a great way of 738 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,120 being able to go about it. What would you guys want from 739 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,440 this? Start with you, Lex. 740 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:33,880 I, I mean, this is very hyper specific. 741 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,760 I want to be able to copy and paste things from chat without 742 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,080 needing a new add on to do that. That was more of a frustration 743 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,080 in role-playing, but it was a huge frustration in role-playing 744 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,000 that I couldn't like copy what somebody said or like even 745 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,360 someone's name. Oh my God. 746 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,440 Like inviting people to Guild is such a raging pain. 747 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,320 If they're a cross server, if you have to type and if they 748 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,440 have a freaking character, pain in my butt. 749 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,000 It's worth it though. For everyone who I invited to 750 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,280 read who's like, we love it, it's worth it. 751 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,000 I'll type your silly little special characters. 752 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,560 You can have a cute little name, but yeah, that would be my 753 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,080 biggest win. I think it's got to be 754 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,800 significant if they're like putting as a headline because 755 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,000 they just added in that like recently partnered with things 756 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,880 just stealth drop that into into our social. 757 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,320 So like I assume this is going to be something huge. 758 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,440 What? What are you thinking, Sean? 759 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,480 I just hope that it's the ability to queue cross faction 760 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,400 without being in a full group. You thought it was going to say 761 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,600 region, You thought it was going to say cross region. 762 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,480 I got you like you and I have brothers off that AQ enough 763 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,280 times I was. Yeah, I know. 764 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,760 I just want to queue cross faction. 765 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,800 Like right now you can queue cross faction for like time 766 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,360 walking if you have a full group. 767 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,360 It's a pain in the ass if you don't have a full group and like 768 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,240 LFR as well. That's what I hope that the 769 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,160 social update is, that we're allowed to play with our Horde 770 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,560 fans and our Alliance friends whenever we want. 771 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,400 That would be, that would be something. 772 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,320 But I, I expect that there's going to be a, it's going to be 773 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,200 a package of things. Because if they're going to put 774 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,880 it as a bullet point, it feels like it's probably going to be a 775 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:22,600 bit more outside of 12.0, sorry, 12.1. 776 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,480 And then we go into like 12 point 1.5 and that it starts 777 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,640 getting more and more vague as those as we get further on, 778 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:35,160 they're going to like revisit this update this and add in more 779 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,280 specifics as we get closer. I'm sure that like once like the 780 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,360 race to world first has cooled down and we're and we're looking 781 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,640 towards 12 point O .5. We'll get an update where that's 782 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,680 showing exactly what we can start expecting for 12.1 and 783 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,360 like far, far more details of that. 784 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,080 There are things that like, they probably haven't even planned 785 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,840 yet, but they're like, Oh yeah, we are going to make those 786 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,040 changes. One of the things that they said 787 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,040 they're going to constantly be looking at updating is housing, 788 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,680 and they've actually announced a couple of features for housing 789 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,960 that will be coming soon. So one thing I'm super excited 790 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,920 about is the ability to group move objects together. 791 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,560 It's like this entire thing, this entire group set that I 792 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,520 have here, I'm going to move this over here or a copy or a 793 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,760 copy and paste. That to me is amazing. 794 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:35,520 I just was rearranging a, a hallway where I have like items 795 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,200 from particular expansions. And I was like, oh, I want to 796 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,120 start over here as like classic and then BC and Wrath and so 797 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,840 forth. And then I realized that I had a 798 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,720 gap. And so I had to move every item 799 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:50,480 1 by 1. And so this will be a godsend. 800 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,720 What about you guys? Let's start with you, Sean. 801 00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,000 I know you you're rating, rating, rating. 802 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,080 But like any of these housing features look nice to you. 803 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,320 The only one that really matters to me is the one that I asked 804 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,680 them about months ago, and the answer I got then lines up with 805 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,520 everything they've said since, so it wasn't new information. 806 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,040 And that's the ability to have our pets roaming around our 807 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,240 house when we get there. The answer Jesse gave me when I 808 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,440 asked, like when housing first came out, was yes, we want this, 809 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,840 we have to solve collision first. 810 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,440 So it sounds like they have an idea on how to solve collision. 811 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,000 So great. But I got to be honest fam, I 812 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,160 haven't even gone back to my neighborhood. 813 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,360 So I did endeavours once for about 45 minutes and that will 814 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,320 be the last endeavour I do. But I haven't gone back to my 815 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,840 house since before Christmas. So Sean, I have good news on 816 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,520 Endeavours, which is when they are active, during the time that 817 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,680 everything's really exciting and active, you'll be doing them 818 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,920 automatically when you're doing everything. 819 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,760 Plus new dungeons, new delves, which I know. 820 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,080 You do, yeah, yeah, that's, I'll get the points that way. 821 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,680 I'm not going to do any Endeavour specific activities 822 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,480 though. That's Oh, yeah, they're not. 823 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,920 They're not my, that's not. I talked a huge game last 824 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,880 episode about how fun it was having it to just like screw 825 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,440 around with. And then every single day I 826 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,800 thought to myself, do I want to log in and do the endeavour? 827 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,080 And then I thought, no, I could do anything else with my time. 828 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,800 Yeah, and you're not going to hang this Farazra outside 829 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,960 instead. Well, I had already hugged my 830 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,360 Farazra outside and I was like, OK, I'm going to do Endeavour 831 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,800 stuff. And I hit the cap. 832 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,040 And then they put out the news that, hey, we've seen that this 833 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:39,800 cap is too restrictive, that these diminishing returns are 834 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,240 too painful. And they immediately set forth 835 00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:48,800 and made changes hot fixed in this stuff so that you get more 836 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,560 sorry, the diminishing returns are cut off so you don't go down 837 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,560 to like one or two tickets from something that used to give you 838 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,320 like 10 or 8. They allowed it to go from 839 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:08,680 instead of getting 1000 house XP to like 2250 housing XP, which 840 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,320 is great because I'm continuing to level up my house, which 841 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,800 which I and really having fun with. 842 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,120 So I guess I'll I'll be the housing main. 843 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,600 Lex can be the R Pier and Sean can be the pet battler, and 844 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,480 we'll all have fun stuff to do. I'm curious I 'cause I have a 845 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:33,720 theory about mount collectors and people addicted to 846 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,000 increasing the level of their house is your. 847 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,960 Theory that they can't ride. Yes, yes, that that was his 848 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,240 theory from before. Have you? 849 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,400 Have you filled like are you full? 850 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,840 Have you used all of your points in your house or are you 851 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,200 strictly just I need to make this number go up? 852 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,000 I had hit the cap and then I tore parts of the thing down. 853 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:02,200 And now with this new rebuild, I'm halfway towards the cap, but 854 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,680 I've still got like one room that is utterly empty and I want 855 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,880 to fill in the space. Like I'm my place is a huge, 856 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:12,080 it's just got a lot of things in it, right? 857 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:17,480 Like I wanted to build it like cozy and, and like lived in. 858 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,280 And so that's required like a lot of things that I'm putting 859 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440 together. And I'm not like one of those 860 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,560 crazy builds where like they put together a bunch of columns and 861 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,280 suddenly they've got like Voltron set up, right. 862 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,040 I've got just like different things that I'm like, OK, like 863 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,360 this, these are my coffee cups and I and, and like this is my 864 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,600 like little nook where we're all like make my coffee and my mini 865 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,960 fridge and so forth. And so like that's the stuff 866 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,000 that I've got sort of set up. I don't have a fridge in my 867 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,360 kitchen. Thanks, John. 868 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,280 There you go. And that's the sort of stuff 869 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,240 that I do. You're welcome. 870 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,240 Yeah. Fun. 871 00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:54,960 I'm glad. I'm glad you're enjoying it. 872 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,200 That makes me happy. That sparks joy. 873 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,960 Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of 874 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,360 changes coming. One things that they were 875 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,040 talking about were import codes. So if you are somebody who 876 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,040 doesn't do those crazy builds, but you you walk into Lexus 877 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,720 Place and you're like, Oh my goodness, you can now copy out 878 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,520 part of the layout. And then if you've got the 879 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,320 materials, import that into your well, you can't do that now, but 880 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,680 that is something that's coming in the future that you'll be 881 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,760 able to like copy out something that you see, import that into 882 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,840 your place and use that as the inspiration starting point. 883 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:37,360 If Lexus created a grand piano, you can then find out what the 884 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,280 materials are for that, put the grand piano in your place and go 885 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,720 from there. So like, I think that is that is 886 00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:48,640 actually something that I had asked for way back before this 887 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,520 had even come out. And Sean, you're like, this is 888 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,840 not something I'm going to do. I just need people to do like 889 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,080 quick build time lapse videos. And I say, what if they have 890 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,840 import codes like the like they have for talents? 891 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,280 And so I'm really glad that this is coming along. 892 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:10,360 This should help a lot of people moving on from housing though, 893 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,440 something that I think Lex you might be excited for, something 894 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,680 that I, I am like hoping is going to like reignite my 895 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:22,800 passion in 12 point 1.5 labyrinths. 896 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,440 So Lex, talk us through this. What are labyrinths? 897 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,640 So basically they're a mega dungeon, but it's actually a 898 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,760 delve. So it's it's a really big delve. 899 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,840 It sounds like from what I've been hearing slash this in the 900 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,880 video is probably doing my actual job and being a good 901 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,320 employee Boss. Don't fire me. 902 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,320 You can like start and come back, right? 903 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,960 So it's not like you have to do it all in one run. 904 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,520 You can split it up into little parts, but it's basically like a 905 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:54,240 big, complex, large delve with different Delvey ways to delve. 906 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,000 Basically to making Delve bigger and cooler and there's more 907 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,480 options and it's cooler, it's more fun and there's more things 908 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,600 to do and you can be in there for a long time. 909 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,360 Yeah, the mega delves called Labyrinth, I think I like that 910 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,120 that phrasing that that coin of the phrase you got there. 911 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:20,800 I am hoping that as they like turned up the difficulty for 912 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,480 dungeons into mega dungeons and when they originally did mega 913 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,760 dungeons for like Return to Cares and they were very story 914 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,240 built. I'm hoping that these labyrinths 915 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,520 are much the same. I noticed that nowhere in this 916 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,200 timeline is there any pointing to a mega dungeon. 917 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:47,160 So if the labyrinth is in inserted into the story like the 918 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,760 last mega dungeon we got. If you're call back in 919 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,600 Dragonflight, that was the infinite Dragonflight's Dawn of 920 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:59,520 the Infinite. So if it's like that, I I could 921 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:05,640 really be excited for this if it is something that they do more 922 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,480 like I'm going to say Mecca Gone was the weakest Mecca dungeon 923 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,320 for me it. Was the only Mecca dungeon. 924 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:22,920 I I just mean like story wise and in terms of like impact and 925 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,080 placing, like I felt that obviously there was novelty with 926 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:34,360 return to Kazan and there was like a very cool story story a 927 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,600 bit Mechagon was just sort of a Side Story sort of thing. 928 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,520 And. Manny Mechagon unlocked an 929 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,640 Allied race as Avesh merely existed. 930 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,000 Mechagon didn't unlock the Mechagomes. 931 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,320 Yeah, that whole island, the the dungeon is the culmination of 932 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,400 that island. That's how you unlocked 933 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,360 mecanomes. Oh they added it, you went 934 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,480 unlocking mecanomes came in afterwards. 935 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,560 But they came from there. That's where they came from. 936 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,840 That's their home. Oh, Manny. 937 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,480 Yeah, it's still still not raiding. 938 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,000 Oh, Manny, Yeah. I will say, I think we've said 939 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,440 this a little bit a few times on the podcast. 940 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,040 Delve, in my opinion, have a very unique ability to add to 941 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,840 the story because they are solo content and they're not timed. 942 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,360 And I don't necessarily know that. 943 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,640 I feel they have dug into that. I feel like the Delve storylines 944 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:39,440 have always been kind of surface level, so I'm hopeful. 945 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,200 I think that'd be one thing to be really cool with the 946 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,840 labyrinth is to give it more of an ability to get into story, 947 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,560 even little things like wouldn't it be cool if you could read 948 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,160 little like, I mean, I don't know, I probably wouldn't 949 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,440 actually do it. Wouldn't it be cool if it was 950 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,000 possible like, you know, read like have options to go into 951 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,880 more of lower areas or like trigger certain sites that are 952 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,640 only, you know, basically just story fights that you can skip 953 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,240 otherwise and things like that. I think the there's an ability 954 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:10,320 in single player play to be a lot more flexible because you 955 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,240 don't have to worry about like, well, what are the other 956 00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:13,440 players? Are they either going to be 957 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,200 like, no, we're not going to go over and read the stupid 958 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,840 journal, go do the freaking and plus as fast as you can or like, 959 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,400 oh, well, we have to go do this one thing. 960 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,680 So everyone has to go drag over to this one place and nobody 961 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,880 wants to go. And I think it'll be really 962 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,480 cool, especially with the name like Red Labyrinth, if they do 963 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,000 make this a lot more choose your own adventure. 964 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,640 And they do make it a lot more like if you want to really dig 965 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,600 in and get into this story in a way that you can only 966 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,640 comfortably do in a single player environment, you can. 967 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,280 If you want to just speed through it as fast as possible, 968 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,480 you skip these areas and you just go straight to the boss. 969 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,160 Yeah, I definitely agree with you there, Lex, especially with 970 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,560 the advent of like Mythic Plus making dungeons more streamlined 971 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:03,600 and all the bosses, faceless punch dummies, the delves, the 972 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,920 labyrinths have a have a real space to explore story and have 973 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,520 characters again, which doesn't happen in World of Warcraft 974 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,000 instance content anymore. So yeah, this this could be a 975 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,200 real opportunity. I like that. 976 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:27,360 Beyond that, the latest the last thing going all the way to 12 977 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:35,920 point 1.7, they have a new stand alone mode now. 978 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,280 There was like a little image of some concept art for that. 979 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:49,440 But this is from the same team that did Plunderstorm, that did 980 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,160 Remix, and now this new thing is coming up. 981 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,920 So what are your thoughts on that? 982 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,720 Let's start with you, Sean. You. 983 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,800 You were the one who fell in love with Plunderstorm and you 984 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,840 did like Mr. Pandaria remix. I'm not sure what your final 985 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,480 thoughts were for remix. Think you you flip-flopped this 986 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,720 so many times I've lost track of where you ended up. 987 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,920 Yeah, it was. I really liked Plunderstorm and 988 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,400 Mr. Bandaria remix. I think you should land on that. 989 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,320 I'm excited. I I like thunderstorm a lot. 990 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,920 I like, I'm I like the Warcraft universe, like the Warcraft art 991 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,760 style. I like the Warcraft team and I 992 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,600 like when people get to be creative and try something 993 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,560 different. So let me see what you got and 994 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,600 you can listen. That's coming out in in autumn. 995 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,320 That's right around Halloween. If you guys, Fasdev, if they 996 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,240 want to see like if they're still sort of like we don't 997 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,800 really know what we want to do. You can have you can have my 998 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,360 idea for the prop hunt, the reverse prop hunt that's free. 999 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,440 You can have that. That could be the event. 1000 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,240 The whole event could just be me as a platter of cheese chasing 1001 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,880 people down in in Hillsborough. I I'd be OK with that, yeah. 1002 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680 I mean, that makes sense. A lot of those horror movies are 1003 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,480 cheesy, so this just sort of really double s down on that. 1004 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:13,200 I was talking to friend of the show Halionics and she pointed 1005 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:22,360 me to a Wowhead article back from When PAX East was around 1006 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:29,280 and we were talking about this in development mode that was set 1007 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:36,800 in a spooky area. This was their part of their 1008 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,360 future experimentation and Blizzard confirmed that an 1009 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,080 upcoming game mode will not be battle Royale like plan to 1010 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,040 start. Instead, it will have a vibe 1011 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,600 that is more similar to a scary story. 1012 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,680 Additionally, the key image appears to take place in the 1013 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,960 town of Darkshire, within the haunted force of Dustwood. 1014 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:03,680 This is all the way back in May of 2025 that this this was 1015 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,080 coming. And then when you look at the 1016 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,280 key art, it's sort of vibes with that. 1017 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,040 So people were. Imagine a game mode where you 1018 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,760 don't have you can't attack. So if you've ever played the 1019 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,400 game Amnesia The Dark Descent, there's a monster chasing you. 1020 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,760 You can't fight. All you can do is run and hide. 1021 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,280 So you could have stitches, cause stitches is one of the 1022 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,040 creatures that roams this. The roads of Duskwood. 1023 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,000 You could have stitches chase the player down and you have to 1024 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,480 like run away from him and solve some kind of puzzle in order to 1025 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,760 save yourself or save somebody. That could be neat. 1026 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,480 Dude, I'm way down. I'm way down for this. 1027 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,040 I'm going to create it in my head so that they could never 1028 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,760 possibly match what I've imagined, and then it'll let 1029 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,760 myself be disappointed when it doesn't match them. 1030 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,880 I think is is what I'm going to do, and then I'll say something 1031 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,280 completely obnoxious like this could have been an e-mail and 1032 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,760 really paint myself as a giant anyway. 1033 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,200 OK, I'm sure that many people will join you as we get more 1034 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,760 details. So nothing special there. 1035 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,840 Lex, What? What are you thinking? 1036 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,560 I'm really excited, to the surprise of nobody who saw me go 1037 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,120 crazy guys, when we talked about Prop Hunt, I like a little 1038 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,720 silly, fun, goofy little thing to play around with. 1039 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,720 The biggest hypothesis I've heard is sort of Among Us style 1040 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,680 and the art from the video is sort of like a circular, 1041 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,400 circular space. I mean, obviously this is all up 1042 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,000 for like they're not none of this is locked in. 1043 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,920 To me, the video art almost looks a little bit more perfect. 1044 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,280 Visions ask. There's like little glowy parts 1045 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,760 that seem to be differentiating certain areas, but obviously I 1046 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,800 don't know, we won't know until it's closer. 1047 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,760 I think it's going to be great. I was less of a remix person 1048 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,160 because I don't like long term grinds, Surprise, surprise, 1049 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,880 likes a little bit lazy. I loved Plunderstorm. 1050 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,720 I mean like once it kind of got super like everyone knows what 1051 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,400 to do. It's there's a meta and I don't 1052 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,200 really know the meta and I don't really like, I'm not great at 1053 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,880 PVPI, didn't get as into it, but like early on it was really fun 1054 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,120 because it was just a silly screw around, run around button, 1055 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,480 button, button, button, button game. 1056 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,840 And I think that was really fun. I think whatever it's going to 1057 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,640 be, it's going to be a good time. 1058 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,520 It might not be a long term good time but I'm happy to have, you 1059 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,360 know, a couple weeks that I play a silly little game and until 1060 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,200 someone met makes it a meta and I don't want to read the meta 1061 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,240 and I get bored. I'm hoping it's not player 1062 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,880 versus player. Some people have talked about 1063 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,400 like it being something like DVD where it's this asymmetrical 1064 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,720 thing, one one player trying to hunt down four other players 1065 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,560 around this scary town and they're trying to hide and do 1066 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,680 objectives while avoiding the other player. 1067 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,960 Instead, I would prefer if it was more like a repo, another 1068 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,240 game that is similarly scary where you're going around you're 1069 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,720 trying to collect things and particular things could be like 1070 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,640 poltergeists or or spirits that might like chase after you. 1071 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,120 And if that might be a cool kind of squad sort of thing to do. 1072 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,480 And then have the like poltergeist and all of that be 1073 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,920 just NPCS where it's like, oh crap, I trapped, like I 1074 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,480 triggered something in the farm and then black get killed or run 1075 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:16,960 away from the farm and that sort of thing. 1076 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,440 There's there's a lot of possibilities. 1077 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,360 This is just like us brainstorming stuff based on 1078 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:30,600 like very vague hints. But I do recommend for people 1079 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,320 who are looking to speculate, go back and look at that old 1080 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,600 article from PAX East because it does have a few more details and 1081 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,320 it this seems to be them coming forward with that stuff. 1082 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,200 It also is something that I really wanted to point out to 1083 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,480 you, Lex, because it shows that this stuff is in development for 1084 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:55,160 a good long while before like we ever get our first eyes on it, 1085 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,520 which might allay some of your concerns and everything's being 1086 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,880 rushed out like it might it. Would lay my concerns more if it 1087 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,640 wasn't actually showing up rushed right? 1088 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,960 No I know so it also what I didn't. 1089 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,480 Maybe everyone else knew this. I was sort of under the 1090 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,800 impression that like the Plunderstorm and limits team was 1091 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,280 up. Like the World of Warcraft team 1092 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,760 was kind of devoting resources while other doing other things. 1093 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,640 It seems like they're talking about this like there is a 1094 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:27,160 separate team that is kind of portioned off and that is the 1095 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,840 standalone game team. I think it's sorry. 1096 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,440 The live team, which was something that was talked about 1097 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:40,560 mentioned at least in in in the video as well. 1098 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,360 Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I was being a 1099 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,960 good employee and doing my actual job, but yeah, yeah. 1100 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:53,680 So I think I mean, so far everything that team has 1101 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,760 produced, I guess remix, they're like remix in general, not just 1102 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,080 remix people had on and off, like early on it was a little 1103 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,080 bit complicated, but that was really, really big game mode. 1104 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,680 Plunderstorm specifically, I thought came out in really good 1105 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,600 shape. There were definitely, I mean, 1106 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,720 like there were bugs, there were issues, there were things that 1107 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,520 you know, exploits and things, but overall it they were like, 1108 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,240 it was all OK. And so I'm hopeful that this 1109 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:23,640 team, this team seems to be really good about had like 1110 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,320 getting things out in in a really good position. 1111 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:31,040 And look, again, I first of all, I'm trying really hard not to 1112 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,240 let my opinion of what is occurring in live be influenced 1113 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,280 by my fears, right? So like, I get everything's 1114 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,320 going to come out buggy, right? It's, I don't know, like it's a 1115 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,320 game with a ton of people code that's, you know, almost as old 1116 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,960 as I am, Like it's fine, whatever. 1117 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,000 There's going to be mistakes. And I I mean, all of this is 1118 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,000 really, really cool. So I'm also not trying to, you 1119 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,880 know, be like, Oh no, they're giving me cool, cute things, 1120 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,280 dude. Oh shoot, darn, I'm having fun, 1121 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,960 right? I just worry because it does 1122 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,840 feel like things are coming out half baked more and more and 1123 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:09,720 more and I'm like, OK, are we hiring more people or like, 1124 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,680 what's the plan? That's my fear. 1125 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,320 But yeah, you're right. They, they're working on this 1126 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,080 for a long time. And especially with a standalone 1127 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,000 game like this, I'm, I'm really hopeful. 1128 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,720 I'm really excited about this. To be honest. 1129 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,160 I think this is going to be really, really fun. 1130 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,920 I am over the moon, whatever it is, right? 1131 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,440 All of these suggestions or something. 1132 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,920 I did not expect to battle Royale. 1133 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,480 In fact, I think when Plunderstorm came out, I was a 1134 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,720 big whiny little baby about it. I was like, I don't want to do 1135 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,440 battle Royale. I don't want to do the, I don't 1136 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,680 like PvP. And I loved it. 1137 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,240 I thought it was really fun and silly and goofy. 1138 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,360 Oh, did I stop? Yeah, she stopped. 1139 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,880 Oh, I know it's a rarity. Sorry, it was like a puff stop. 1140 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,400 I got caught. I caught off guard there. 1141 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,640 OK. Yeah. 1142 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,160 So like things that have been in the pipeline for a while. 1143 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,600 I'm hoping that things are smoother. 1144 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,600 They brought on 100 people from Blizzard North. 1145 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:21,640 They are, they're hopefully getting past growing pains, 1146 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,880 onboarding pains and going through all of and going through 1147 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,200 that. And so maybe things will not be 1148 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,240 as rough. We've talked about how there was 1149 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:38,920 sort of a change in course part way through the War Within and 1150 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,400 hopefully that means that things will be smoother going forward. 1151 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,720 But a lot of this is just hopes and none of it confirmed. 1152 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,920 So we will see. Something that we have a lot of 1153 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:54,360 hope for is BlizzCon. Now the two of you will be going 1154 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:59,680 to BlizzCon and that is like the big mark on this September 12th 1155 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:04,480 that they've got there. What are you hoping to see at 1156 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,720 BlizzCon? And Lex. 1157 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,560 Yes, Lex for sure. What else? 1158 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,560 John, keep going. I answered my question I want 1159 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,480 I'd like to see a StarCraft shooter. 1160 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,640 I more Warcraft, obviously more Warcraft. 1161 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,160 I love that and an animated series, the Warcraft animated 1162 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,040 series. The RT at the end of this 1163 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:32,800 presentation was a, a trailer for housing that like literally, 1164 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,680 honest to God, took my breath away. 1165 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:41,400 And it was easily as good as any animation I've ever seen on a 1166 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,240 television series or movie. So yeah, that's, I hope for that 1167 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,760 at BlizzCon. I hope they come out and say, 1168 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,120 hey, guess what? Our, our team is amazing. 1169 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,800 We love them. We signed on with Apple TV Plus 1170 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:59,840 for a deal to prepare to present to, to, to develop a Warcraft 1171 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,840 television animated series. That's what I hope. 1172 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,280 And Lex. And I want to see Lex. 1173 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,000 I wanted to see Manny, but he refuses to come to BlizzCon. 1174 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,520 We'll talk about it and after show. 1175 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,800 Lex, what are you hoping to see at BlizzCon? 1176 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,760 And please don't answer Lex, that doesn't have the same 1177 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,480 appeal. I have a mirror in my own God 1178 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,920 damn house, Manny. So yes, obviously I'm super 1179 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,840 excited to see Sean. I'm super excited to see my 1180 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,120 Guild again. That was a really good time. 1181 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,960 I think there's some members who weren't able to come last year 1182 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,240 who were coming this year and a lot of people who were there 1183 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,000 last year who were coming back. It's gonna be amazing. 1184 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,000 I'm so excited. I'm over the moon. 1185 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:39,400 So I honestly, based on where they put BlizzCon in the road 1186 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,520 map, I don't want to see a lot from World of Warcraft because 1187 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,640 yeah, like 12, obviously I think they're going to give us some 1188 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:51,040 information on 12.2, but it's going to be early enough in 12.1 1189 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,920 that like frankly, I mean, I guess we will have had, you 1190 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,640 know, the the ending of everything. 1191 01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:01,000 So yeah, I think they gave us a lot of information on 12.2. 1192 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,240 I think they're going to feel like they have to give us some 1193 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,920 information on Last Titan, and I kind of don't want them to spoil 1194 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,720 the end of 12.2, and I think they probably don't want to 1195 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,360 either. So I'm thinking that's going to 1196 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,200 be reined in. And if it's not, I hope they 1197 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,280 rein it in. Like even if they're thinking 1198 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,960 like whatever doesn't like that would suck in my opinion. 1199 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,600 It would be disappointing. So my guess is this is going to 1200 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,439 be very StarCraft heavy. And I think that's actually 1201 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,920 really exciting. I think having BlizzCon be an 1202 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,240 opportunity to be like, let's bring back an older IP. 1203 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,479 Let's I, I think the idea of the, I'm hopeful the, the mobile 1204 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,279 game is StarCraft. I really hope they learn from 1205 01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:40,319 last BlizzCon and they drop it immediately upon BlizzCon so I 1206 01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,840 can play the mobile game through BlizzCon. 1207 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:48,160 That was amazing. I, yeah, I, I, I frankly, some 1208 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,760 World of Warcraft. I don't want to see a lot of it 1209 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:55,560 in that point in time. Yeah, this kind of goes along 1210 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,200 with what Sean was saying at the beginning, and I said I'd loop 1211 01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,279 back to it. Well, here I am. 1212 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,920 They have been really good with this. 1213 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,600 Not to give story spoilers. There was very much like, hey, 1214 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,399 this is the general stuff. I'm not going to tell you the 1215 01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:14,160 name of of the patch, not going to tell you much of the story 1216 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:19,279 stuff. But I remember just really early 1217 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:25,720 Legion, they dropped everything on the Carazan patch and it was 1218 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,479 like was I overlap like Legion was hype, but like to 1219 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,319 immediately know what was going on in the in the next major 1220 01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:35,840 patch kind of got ahead of itself. 1221 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,640 So maybe it could happen at BlizzCon. 1222 01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:51,359 I'm I'm unsure I would really. I would really say that the new 1223 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:56,640 unannounced IP that they've been picking up people for now, that 1224 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,440 they're picking up publicity, people would love to see some of 1225 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:04,760 that stuff come to light at BlizzCon. 1226 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:12,560 And then beyond that, like, yeah, you're I think I'm with 1227 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,680 Lex. You can go light on Warcraft, 1228 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,720 push more of the more of the other franchises like to see 1229 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,440 what's happening with Overwatch. Please. 1230 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:27,080 I I don't know why I keep hoping for Overwatch to like do 1231 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,720 something I like. They're going to announce 1232 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,520 Overwatch 3 and still not have started the story from Overwatch 1233 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,080 one at this point. I don't know. 1234 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,520 At some point I'm going to stop caring. 1235 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:42,240 Let's have start let's have heroes of the storm revived. 1236 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,080 That's my that's my dream. Here's the storm revived would 1237 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:50,040 be amazing. But yeah, we will see. 1238 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,360 I honestly, it's going to be community. 1239 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,960 I just want to get a picture of Lex and Sean side by side that 1240 01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,920 isn't photoshopped. If when I was drunk, when I was 1241 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,760 drunk and being like I've got friends. 1242 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,440 I put one in the For Ezra discord. 1243 01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:08,680 I put a photo of Lex and I and you. 1244 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,200 It's all three of us. Actually, I put I just dropped 1245 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,440 it in there in the modern conversation channel. 1246 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:14,440 Oh. There we go. 1247 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,640 All right, BlizzCon. Dreams do come true friends, but 1248 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,960 we would love to hear what your BlizzCon dreams are so jump into 1249 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,760 the fast discord. Let us know and is there 1250 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,080 anything else that you guys think we would possibly see at 1251 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,360 BlizzCon or you want to talk about from this road map? 1252 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,360 Sean you? 2 Two things. 1253 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,720 Yeah, the two most important things. 1254 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,760 I can't believe we didn't mention Rufus. 1255 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,760 So Blizzard has partnered with Habitat for Humanity and they're 1256 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,520 selling this giga cute dog pet that comes with a dog house and 1257 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,440 a dog bowl. And his name is Rufus, and he's 1258 01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:56,480 dressed up like a little construction worker and he's got 1259 01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,520 little construction boots on his paws. 1260 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,160 And if you buy it, money goes to build houses for people that 1261 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,200 need it. It's a great 'cause I love it. 1262 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,440 I keep refreshing the store 'cause I want to buy it now. 1263 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,120 I love Rufus, I've only just met him but I would already kill for 1264 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,200 him. And the other thing is the the 1265 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,360 date of pre patch we're getting an extra day. 1266 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,440 The official launch of pre patch was announced, it's coming on 1267 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:27,600 February 26th at 3:00 PM Pacific Time. 1268 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:32,160 So we're getting 4 full days of pre patch. 1269 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,280 So Early Access is coming even earlier for everybody who bought 1270 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:42,520 the Midnight Epic Edition, and hopefully Collector's Editions 1271 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,880 are shipped and arrived before then. 1272 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:52,280 I really hope that I am terrified that they won't be. 1273 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:56,800 I'm more likely to get Heroes of the Storm revive before you get 1274 01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,440 epic dish on time. Yeah, yeah. 1275 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,200 I'm really nervous about that. Really nervous about that. 1276 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,680 Yeah. Rufus, go buy Rufus. 1277 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,360 Get Rufus. He's got the cutest. 1278 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,440 He looks like Paw Patrol. It's like Paw Patrol right in 1279 01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:13,160 your house. And he apparently does a little 1280 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,080 if you idle him. He built something. 1281 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that the he, he does look like the cutest 1282 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,520 doggo. Well, the second cutest. 3rd 1283 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,400 cutest. The third cutest I was, Yeah, 1284 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,720 I'll accept third cutest. OK, just cause. 1285 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,760 Is it 'cause we have a tie for first, or are we as a tie for? 1286 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,400 1st So obviously it's it's Reya and then Shadow very close. 1287 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:40,760 Second of Shadow and then Rufus. It's a close. 1288 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,520 Second, we'll talk after we'll let's do a, we'll do a poll in 1289 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,480 the Discord, we'll put both of our dogs pictures up, and we'll 1290 01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:49,840 let the Fazers, we'll let the Fazers choose. 1291 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:55,120 Fazers choose You each get this a bit two photos that that we'll 1292 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:59,000 put into the poll. The FAZ No, we can't actually do 1293 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,600 this. One of you will quit in rage. 1294 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,720 We can't let the fascination. No, I won't quit in rage. 1295 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,800 I will pretend to be OK with it until BlizzCon and then get my 1296 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,640 revenge like a good psycho there. 1297 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,480 You go OK, but. Unless I win. 1298 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,480 Unless I win. So if you want to save Lex's 1299 01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:19,840 life, you know which dog to vote for. 1300 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,520 For legal reasons, that's a joke. 1301 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,040 Lex is not in any danger. I'm delightful. 1302 01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:27,160 I am now scared. You know what? 1303 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,520 I'm not going to the US anymore. Psycho, Sean. 1304 01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:34,800 Oh wow, anymore? That's where he draws the line. 1305 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,440 For legal reasons, that is a joke. 1306 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,520 Anyways, that's going to do it for us here. 1307 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,080 We are really looking forward to this entire year of World of 1308 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,680 Warcraft, and we're really glad that they built this state of 1309 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,600 Azeroth out of the road map that they used to just put out. 1310 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,080 But until next time, may all your hits be good.