I fully expected season 2 to come after BlizzCon specifically
because we are having an on stage MDI and AWC at BlizzCon,
which means we're having them like 2 weeks after launch.
Three weeks after launch, victory for the Forsaken.
For Lauderon. For the Karen tour for.
Pandaria. For calendar to.
The burning region for Gilnaeus or has.
Not died for the Lich King, for the Sindora.
For the Alliance for. The Horn for Azeroth.
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of For Azeroth.
I am one of your hosts, the true villain, Manny, or just Manny,
and I am joined, coming to us from the wonderful, wonderful
state of Minnesota. Wait, Lex.
Hello Lex, how are you? I'm good, I'm good.
If we're we're getting through it, we're surviving.
We're Vivin. We're watching videos, kids.
That's good. Let's get out the world of.
Warcraft Heating because apparently we're doing the
videos at noon. Yeah, yeah, that that's going to
be a lot of what we're talking about today.
Sean, what about you? How's the World of Warcraft
shooting you and the videos in the middle of the day?
I may have just blocked the wrong person on Twitter.
I before the show started, I was blocking trying to block
somebody awful and I may, but your block list isn't sorted by
when you blocked them. It's sorted.
I don't know what order this is. No, it's not even enough about
anyway. Mine, mine is huge.
So I'm I've been scrolling since before you started the show to
try and see a name. So if you're listening and you
follow me on Twitter and I have you blocked.
If you are blocked by at cartridge Bros and you think oh
I might have been the person he accidentally blocked, please
come to bit that low watch slash fast discord and let me know so
I can unblock you or. No, no, no, go to what's what's
the other what's the cartridge pros discord.
I do not need people that Sean has deemed worthy to block this
turning into the for Azeroth. No, please come in and let me.
I can't. You don't want the most toxic
people you've ever met just. No, I think.
If. Somebody goes and looks if I'm
blocked and they read through their own tweets and they're
like, Oh yeah, I get it. I know why he blocked me.
I'm a crawfish. Really you you think that people
that you've blocked are capable of self reflection and self
analyzing their their previous conduct and.
Be like, oh, I get it. I believe other than that things
are great. I feel really bad about who I
may have randomly blocked That's going to be awful.
Someone's someone poor, some poor someone is going to be
like, oh, it's weird. I wonder why Sean blocked me.
I'm lovely I. Was I wouldn't make a joke about
like, Oh yeah, you think people are just sitting there.
But like, frankly, anytime I have been blocked, it's been
like the most unless it was well deserved, like unless I was
actively being mean to not that I'm mean to people on purpose,
but sometimes you'll feel a little mean.
But any other time if I get blocked, I like, it's the most
devastating thing that's ever happened to me.
I'm like. This is where we like Pan in for
like on to Lex, we fade over to like to Twitter and we have like
the rest of development or no? Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Curb Your Enthusiasm, and it's just wonderful.
It's so funny. Well.
I'll never know because I haven't been on Twitter in like
2. Years.
True enough. True enough.
OK, But aside from Twitter chaos, what you were alluding
to, Lex, was the State of Azeroth video that came out
today. And this was roughly 1/2 hour of
what we can expect this year in the World of Warcraft.
Pretty good presentation in that this is building out of what
used to be just a post of a timeline, a road map that they
put out. And now we're getting a full on
presentation about this for all the things that are coming and a
little bit of like conversation about about it.
So I like, I like that. I think that more communication
is always better generally, though.
What were your thoughts? Let's start with you, Lex.
I am excited. I'm a little nervous.
There was a lot that was announced in the video and I'm
sure we're going to go over it with more granular detail.
My biggest fear and hot take Lex is worried the devs are taking
on too much. My biggest fear is that it's a
lot, right? We are seeing a consistently
really short patch time. I would argue that we are seeing
quality issues that we didn't like.
You know, we were always, nothing was perfect, right?
But it feels like things are getting a little messier and a
little bit more half baked as time goes on, and it seems like
they are just pumping more into that patch cycle.
And I am worried. But if they pull it off, it's
going to kill, right? There is some really cool stuff.
There's amazing stuff coming for Delves, which I'm sure we're
going to talk about in long detail.
We're getting cute little single boss rage, which would be really
fun. Like everything they said was
like individually really, really cool and really, really
exciting. So I am hyped and Blizzcon's
coming. OK, another attendee of our soon
to be attendee of BlizzCon. Sean, what are your overall fit
thoughts of this State of Azeroth presentation?
I was really happy with it. It I mean, it didn't give us
cross region spoiler alert. So but at this, but at this
point, none of them have given us cross region.
So I guess I can't be upset about that.
No, I thought it was great. I the trailer it, it felt like
exactly what I expected. And also with the the new patch
coming up, the new expansion coming up, like they're not
going to give us story spoilers for 12.1.
Anybody who thought that was going to happen is delusional.
We'll come back to that. Keep going.
OK, we'll come back to anyway, I thought it was great.
I thought it was exactly what we needed.
But I, I, I, I'm not speaking from a community like I, I want
to super be be super clear. I, I, this is the case in every
time, anytime any has ever asked me a question.
I'm speaking just for me, and it was everything that I could have
wanted. I don't care about classic.
So the classic not getting a big announcement doesn't affect me
at all. I thought the trailer at the end
was gangbusters. Like I could just, they could
have just launched that and what?
Put a play that on repeat for 30 minutes and I would have been
happy. That was amazing.
I'm going to start a blood elf. Actually I have a blood elf
rogue. I mean my first ever character
is a blood elf rogue. Anyway, I thought it was great.
I thought it was a good time. Plus Holly Longdale can't beat
it. Ian has it cost us and and not
once did they mention add-ons or UI.
So 10 out of 1010 out of 10. OK, OK.
So of course there was a lot to cover.
This show is primarily a retail modern show, so we're going to
be focused on that. But there was some stuff that
was there for Classic. There's a little contention
because what was there for Classic was short ended.
Looking at the road map itself, because it only goes through
part of the year, I assume that what is coming in the future,
which they said, hey classic we we've got some great stuff.
I'm confident to say we've got more coming for you is just that
they were not ready to announce it yet and that classic stuff
will come. Well, go ahead and.
The way that I've heard the little, you know, like Holly
almost saying something and then people being like Holly, no,
that little joke. People are primarily in my
spheres interpreting that as like it's going to be a Blues
con announcement or they're saving it for something big.
And so I they would not have teased something big is coming
that is like so close you can taste it, but Holly can't talk
about it just yet. And then I mean, I guess they
would right. They, you know, had let down
announcements in the past, but it, it really does.
I agree, Manny. It feels like they are making it
really clear. Like, hey guys, we don't have a
ton right now. But it's going to.
Be big when it comes out. Was that not them cancelling
whatever that project was? That's what I assumed was
happening. Holly was going to announce it
and. That comes quietly on Friday.
Joanna Fairies, Joanna Fairies yelled from the side.
Holly, no, we're cancelling that right now.
That's what I thought. Isn't that why the classic
people are upset? Oh yeah, that definitely, most
definitely. But like in terms of just wild
speculation and none of us here are experts on classic, so wild
speculation. What are you guys thinking that
this could be? Are you thinking that obviously
they'll just continue pushing into future things like Warlords
classic? What point does it stop being
classic is, is my thought at this point?
Or is it something similar to the seasonal stuff that we've
got, like the Seeds of Discovery or, or some other version of
Classic Plus? Let's start with you first,
Sean. Got any harebrained ideas?
I definitely think it's cross region for classic.
Cross region classic. Brilliant.
Brilliant that. Happens in classic.
Before it happens in retail, I will like, actually write in an
angry letter. I'm gonna I'm gonna e-mail
somebody. Yeah, I don't know who.
I don't know who I'm sending this to yet.
It's. Going to be support.
They poor support always gets the brunt of the the.
The yeah, man, that bot's going to be so unhappy when I read
your letter. I'm just going to like put in
AI, pass this along to a real person.
Yeah, that crawfish is going to be some upset.
OK, well fine. I'll send it to Xander and then
Xander will know who to send it to.
But Lex, what about you? So this isn't what it's going to
be, but this is my like kicking my feet in the air, head in my
in my hands dream. So warlords next on track right?
So we were talking a lot in the discord about how warlords
actually have really cool lore. It just is not well explained in
game. I think I my again, big dream
that will never come true big dream.
It would be that basically they would kind of go into Warlords
and redo a lot of how they present information.
So give you cutscene like cinematics of garage crossing
over and like, you know, going through the Dragonflight stuff
and give you more excellent, like fleshing out, giving you
the story that you got. But it was only in war crimes.
If you read War Crimes, I don't follow classic enough to feel
like I can make an actual prediction.
I Yeah, I'm still not super clear on what happened in Season
of Discovery, except there were like rogue tanks or something.
So maybe they're going to switch up what classes the races can
be. I don't know.
Classic. Lex, if you're looking for a
prediction to make, you could join me.
You could tag team this cross region prediction I.
Don't like being wrong, Sean. Eventually.
Eventually, someday I will be right and then I will point back
at all of these cross region references and say, see, I
called it. The year is 2099.
Sean's tombstone says, see, I told you I want to jump in and
join Lex on this, on this building out lore that was
missed. It would be so amazing to get
just like some sort of like interactive trial of garage, oh,
fight off the infinite sort of scenario and then just put that
in lore walking in in retail too.
There. You validated it for both games.
Everybody's happy. Yeah, I'm on.
I'm on board with team Lex on this one.
Come join us, John. Crossover Crossover realms into
the right side. No, I'm going to sit firm.
I'm I'm sticking to it. I'm sticking to it.
There's somebody. Listen, I'm not the only cross
region believer. There's dozens of us.
Oh, you know, what they're probably actually going to do is
they're probably going to do something with like garrisons
and housing being combined. Oh, you hate that?
I thought that was going to be a popular opinion.
OK, never mind. My bad.
And any means the angry, like the most disgusted face I've
heard in my life. I thought that would be the
like, Oh yeah, the garrisons. The thing everyone thought would
be cool and be like housing, but it wasn't.
And that now we have housing. What if we can buy that?
Never mind. I take it back.
We're not doing garrisons and
housing. Yeah, let housing be housing.
Let garrisons be left in the past.
That's it. So are you thinking the Warlords
of Draynor is not going to have a Garrison system?
It'll have a Garrison system. I'm just hoping that they
learned from Legion remix and they just kill the mission table
pretty much and kiss like it it. What a time sink.
I don't know. Anyways, as I said, we're not a
classic show. So let's let's talk about stuff
that we're we're more versed in the retail stuff and in this
timeline we got some things that were going to be coming up real
soon as well as things that stretched out into the air.
And I guess the first thing that we should look at is of course
12.1 is the first we're. Skipping Void Assault and Prop
Hunt. All right, you know what
actually prop hunts worth talking about?
Void Assault I can't care, but Void Assault we'll talk with.
Things. You also skipped the 12.7.
Rate. Yeah, that's true.
I apologize. I I I am skipping the 12 point.
All right, let's talk. About Last Titan, let's talk
about. Yeah.
Let's start. Everyone thinks we should start
the last Titan. 12 Let's talk the last Titan, let's get the
last Titan. 12 point O .5 we have of course, these void
assaults the aftermath of what we're we have yet to even start
on our journey and we're talking about the aftermath of the
initial tier and they reveal no spoiler, no real big spoilers
that things don't go according to plan.
So now we're dealing with these void assaults and these void
assaults are things that are going to be happening in silver
moon in all different places. My immediate thought when I
looked when I saw this was for rack assaults 2 point O like.
So for all of the listeners who don't remember slash know what
that was, do you guys want to remind the listeners what for
rack? Assaults.
So in Dragonflight, just ahead of Dragonflight, yeah, there
were different areas that where you would fight against the
smaller enemies. And then you would fight up
until the point where you would summon the, the boss.
Farak would fly across the the zone and drop off the the mini
boss and then take off. And you would fight the, you
would fight that mini boss and then it would reset, repeat.
I do remember this now, actually, yeah.
But. But the players for the US but.
For the players that don't remember.
So I could see that this, this could be something similar.
Obviously this could be just kind of like invasion.
I don't want to say invasion points because invasion points
you went into a particular you went into a particular instanced
area, maybe kind of like Legion assaults or the BFA enemy
faction assaults where a particular zone or area would be
taken over. There would be specific quests
that are for that for that area. And then a end of once you did
enough world quests that that were there, you would get a end
scenario thing. I actually would prefer that
more to the Farrakh assaults just because that though those
were both open world because you did World Quest, but like the
end assault thing, you would just queue in with stuff and it
would be like a quick little scenario.
I enjoyed those. What what do you guys think and
what would you prefer? Let's start with you.
Sean Oh yeah, I don't care. It'll be content.
I do once and then probably never again unless there's sick
trans mug tied to it and then I will do it until I have received
my trans mug. I This is not going to move.
The Feroc assaults did not move the needle for me.
This one, actually, I found them a little bit annoying because it
was like the weird, like you have to kill X of these guys to
get the key to do this thing and then that key opens this thing
and you have to kill it was it was too much.
You know, I can memorize an entire boss right from start to
finish, but I don't want to know how many of these things they
have to kill for what keys. So yeah, I don't I'll do it.
I'll do it once and then I'll probably I'll do it like just
until I have all of whatever the transmog, if the transmog is
good, if the transmog is not good, I won't do it at all.
But yeah, it's not going to unfortunately.
I mean this, this and now this whole, the the big theme from
this entire presentation was, OK, that's not really for me.
I don't care. But the things that were for me,
I really enjoy it. But this is one of the things on
my list that's just like, OK, sure.
I'm excited for the people that get excited about this types of
thing. So go Lex.
OK, Lex, is this for you? So when I was at this point in
the video, I got really confused about timeline and I thought
they were announcing a second pre patch event.
And as a second pre patch event I was like over the moon, right?
I was like Oh my God, they're giving us 2 little things and
one of them is a silly little dink around like play through
things. We're going to have fun,
discover people. We're talking about prop Hunter
in a second if you didn't watch the video.
And the other one is this cool little assault.
It sounds a lot like maybe like maybe it's me like the Legion
assault. And I famously love the Legion
pre patch. That's going to be so fun.
I'd love I was literally just thinking, you know, it would be
so fun if we were going around for pre patch instead and like
finding little pockets of void and picking it up.
That'll be a perfect pre patch event.
I'm I can't believe they're giving us another.
And then I understood the timeline.
I realized that was not what was occurring.
I think it's a 12 point 0.5. Honestly, I think I am going to
be too busy doing actual World of Warcraft things to do little
jump around and find the assaults.
I unless for example, it was a gearing opportunity, I don't
really anticipate spending a lot of time in it.
We'll see. Yeah, I think it would be a
better pre patch all I think. I I like the concept pre patch
of like an assault showing up in various areas and you going out
to those areas, especially if they were to make it a little
bit wider stretch instead of just being like in the Eastern
Kingdoms and calendar. If it was like they're attacking
dragon dragon rest or they're attacking outlands.
Well, maybe not outlands, I don't know.
Anyway, just going all over the world to these void related
places. Like you could do Pandaria and
Oldham again, Oldham again. But I think that you're you're
both kind of touching on something that I've been
feeling. And maybe I've said it before on
the show, but I think that with the cadence of stuff that comes
out as as they've been coming out, they don't have much teeth
to them. They don't have much depth to
them. They they are really just sort
of like flashes in the pan that like Blizzard used to be easy to
understand, hard to master. Like there would be like a depth
to these systems that they'd throw out.
And I don't feel like they've been doing a lot of these, like
some of the really bad ones are whatever the hell we did in
Arathi when the when the Nerubians invaded again, like
just random, like, oh, yeah, here's something you need to
waste some time and get some gear.
And I'm hoping that this isn't it like that.
But we will see. As you say, Lex.
And then the other part of it is, yeah, you're right, Sean.
They are putting out things for just a very wide audience.
There's things for everybody. And they keep on trying to like,
bring every new people into this big tent.
So you're right. Maybe if this isn't for me, I
can try the other thing. And that other thing is a hide
and seek where you turn into various pieces of decor.
Tell me about this 'cause I apparently want to skip over and
go right to 12.1. So you tell me what this is,
Sean. Me.
Yeah. Tell you what the hide and seek
mean. OK, Lex is really chomping at
the bit. Let's give it the length.
No, hold on. I can do it.
I want to.
I just want to make Lex wait. I could do it.
So in Silver Moon, people are going to be doing this hide and
seek media game where they can turn into housing props like
plates of cheese and they hide and then other people are going
to try and find those plates of cheese and that's, that's the
game. It's going to be so fun.
Because you can't really meta that because it's going to be a
PvP game, right? So it can't be.
It's not one of those things like, oh, there's like you
always do this, you always go here because everyone be like,
oh, it's the player, she's over there.
So you're going to have to be really creative.
Assuming this actually is the thing that gets kind of big, it
seems like fun, right? So I can't imagine it's going to
be completely dead. And yeah, you get to run around
and like transform into things and then half the people are
transforming, the other half are running around.
I think it's going to be really fun.
I am this. If I am going to waste time on
12 point 9.5, it's going to be prop hunt.
Also, if prop hunt is bad, I'm going to cry.
I'm going to cry my eyes out. I'm so excited about this.
But nobody will know because she will be pretending to be a pot
while she doesn't. It's really overfull and it's
like all this water is coming out of.
It it's me. Yeah, so prop hunt 5V5 PvP hide
and seek event where one team will turn into the decor and one
team will go and seek them out. I it is definitely not something
to push back the void as Ian Hazakosis had said.
It is light hearted and fun and I like it because it's something
that you can take out of the expansion and do in future
places. They can add different
locations. So not only is it Silver Moon,
but it's also the neighborhoods. I think the neighborhoods are
going to be kind of crazy because if people set up their
yard and you're like in that yard, I don't know, but I assume
that it's just like some instant set version that with a smaller
area that to seek in. I'd like to make a suggestion if
there's any fascinative. If you're listening for
Halloween, can we have a reverse prop hunt where the cheese tray
menacingly chases down the people and tries to catch them?
Michael Myers I. Think that's amazing shot Yeah,
yeah, that's the the cheese. The cheese board drops, the
cheese just holds the knife and starts coming after you and
like. Yeah, but slowly.
They can't run. They can only walk slow.
Oh, never mind, I can't do it. OK, so that is 12 point O .512.
Point O .7 would be the lead up to the 12.1 and that includes A1
boss raid that they're adding. What's the expectations for
this? What are your fears for this?
Let's start with you, Lex, since Sean Bogart and your thing.
Yeah, too much. My fear is it's too much.
My fear is that like, I'm assuming we'll be well into AOTC
by 12 point 0.7, but if not, that's going to suck, right?
The teams that are still pushing and, and, or like who are still
working at Mythic, That's going to be a really complicated
conversation to have, especially since there's already 3 separate
raids. And then like all of a sudden
you have to have a like sit down with your officers every single
night. Like OK, which one are we doing?
Like are we going to start the new one because everyone's
excited about it? Are we going to keep working on
the hard ones? We've, you know, have been
beating our heads against the wall.
I've heard a lot of anxiety about the feedback from raid
testing in like official midnight not being listened to
enough. So now we're adding in another
one. That's concerning, right?
Like again, I I'm just worried it's too much.
I'm worried it's both going to feel like a lot for the players
and it's also going to be a lot for the devs and just all
together it's just going to be too much to put in a patch.
However, if it's not, it's going to be sick right?
If you're done with AOTC and you're usually the .7 is around
when the team starts kind of winding down, I'm hoping this is
not going to be like a final boss level of one boss.
I'm hoping it'll be somewhere like mid range, so it's not A1
nighter and maybe actually, as I say that I usually the mid rate
of kind of our one nighters. So like I would like this to be
like a few nights, but not so many that it's you know, just
another damn final boss to beat your head against for ages and
ages right, like not easy, but not the most complicated thing.
Hopefully they can you know, if you be a cool way to do like
mechanics I don't usually have to play with because again, it's
just a single boss right, you're not going for anything.
I think it could be a really cool way to pump up a time that
tends to be a little bit slow. I think if that is not what it
is at the .7, I think this is going to be really complicated.
OK. Well, our concerns there.
Sean, your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty much
with Lex, I think so it is we'll by 12 point 0.7 most teams are
in farm at that point and a lot of teams are at the we're only
doing the skipped bosses point of farm.
I think it's all going to go down to difficulty.
If this is a so this is from a two night a week mythic team
perspective. So if this is a one to two week
Prague, so two to four raid nights at about 15 pulls a
night, so a 30 to 60 pull boss, I think it's fine.
I think it's a fine thing to add to the end.
You definitely don't want it to be too difficult.
This shouldn't be a wall because at that point of the season,
people are winding down. People are looking to get ready
for their breaks, to get ready for next season and this is
fine. I'd like to see it launched with
the same item level as the rest of the raids.
And I really desperately hope it doesn't include a turbo boost at
the same time as this because I'm so, so tired of turbo boost.
But there's none mentioned on the road map.
So I am hopeful, But I think it comes out of tuning.
If if it's tuned super hard, I think that it feels kind of bad
to inject it when they do. But if it's tuned at like a
medium level, like a, a middle mid tier boss level, and I think
it's fine to have it to give a little bump to folks, you know,
trying to get them ready to go for for the next patch.
It's all going to come out of tuning.
I'm, I'm not, I'm not as worried, I don't think as Lex
is, but there is, I do definitely hear her concern and
if it comes out tuned really hard, I could see, I could see
it being a flop. OK, Yeah, I think it's going to
be for those teams that are trying to get things done before
the new season comes in. I question how difficult they
can really make it if it is also considered part of the current
tier and therefore you don't get your like cutting edge AOTC for
that particular raid once the new season comes in.
That to me just means that it seems more likely that they'll
tune it closer to a mid boss raid than an end boss raid.
Obviously the race, the world first teams and stuff that have
been on farm for a while, they will not have the as much
difficulty as progging through this.
But they'll also have the questionable decision of do we
host this as an event? And I don't think that happens
when you're just about to wind up into like the main next tier.
So this might be just something that we see as a raid from home
sort of try. Kill it.
There will 100% not be an on location event for this this.
This could be a cool world's first sort of raid though, in
the sense that this might be the one time that a non echo non
limit Guild did. I name one of the old ones that
doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, it's, it's liquid now.
That's OK. We we need the Spotify comments
we're going to get from that are good for the algorithm, so let
them come in. Love it.
I got to be wrong more just for the sake of this that I think
that's always the the cool thing about the early bosses and the
race of the world first right is that that I mean, part of that
is because the big teams are doing splits and stuff.
And so my guess is they'll still be steamrolled by the people who
have been dedicating their entire life to this because it's
their paid job. Wouldn't it be cool if we could
get a world's first kill, like a true world's first kill from a
smaller team because it was only one boss raid?
And so you actually can be like, all right, we're going to grind
really hard. Everyone's going to call out
sick from work, but it's going to be like only for two days, so
who cares? We get a return of pieces.
Pieces had a world first kill on UNAT, so it'd be nice to see
them come back and get a world first kill on Smorgar, whatever
his name is. Also, we're all assuming that
there will be a mythic version of this, but there's a
possibility where it launches and it only has normal and
heroic. Really.
Yeah, if you look at the anniversary event with Black
Rock Depths, it only had, it did not have a mythic version, it
only had heroic and that came out like in the middle tier.
So it's possible that especially if they're using the one in 12
point 1.5, which we'll get to if they're using that as a vehicle
for story driving as opposed to difficult content, And also
launching it as a heroic only raid would allow them to avoid
the question of do we put increased item level on it for
mythic or not? Because it doesn't matter if
it's heroic. Yeah, I I have nothing to
indicate that it won't be mythic, but I'm just saying that
that that could potentially be something that they do where it
just becomes heroic. Yeah, it's a it's a good thought
It there's like background for it.
So I like it. OK.
Sean, do you want to take us to 12.1 point O since I fumble
that? Yeah, 12.1 point O, we're in a
total surprise to no one. We're getting a second patch at
midnight. 12.1 is coming just before BlizzCon, so it'll be
about that five month mark from the start of Season 1.
And they were very light on the details, Ian said.
We don't want to give any story spoilers away yet, but we're
going to have a new zone, new raid, new dungeons, new delves,
new world boss housing, social and UI updates.
Important to note, that's the first time on the timeline that
they mentioned UI updates. So the UI you have now is the
one you're going to have till 12.1.
Yeah, I, I, we're definitely going to Aerithor, I think over
there across the sea or to some zone we've not heard of and not
expected, as is tradition. Yeah, at this point, I don't, I
don't take any bets. It's just like and we're going
to Aspoliosia. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, Aspoliozia is a very fun spot.
That's a good. That's a deep cut.
For those of you who don't know that is.
The It's too deep. Nobody wants to go away.
Yeah, it's very deep. Yeah, Season 1, Season 2 is
coming. I this this was a surprise to
me. This was the first genuine
surprise of the presentation. I fully expected Season 2 to
come after BlizzCon specifically because we are having an on
stage MDI and AWC at BlizzCon, which means we're having them
like 2 weeks after launch. Three weeks after launch?
Because BlizzCon is September 12th, you're not going to launch
this raid much sooner than like middle of August.
I think this is probably the latest you can do this and still
have time for race to roll first before BlizzCon.
So it's actually maybe a little bit shorter than five months if
we're launching like start of August area.
But yeah, it's it's about that five month mark.
It's coming soon. Oh yeah, it's probably goblin.
Goblin graphics is in the chat here of the live show.
If you want to see the live show, you can get the address
for it at bit dot LY slash faz discord.
You can watch us record live. There's a fun pre show where Lex
has a lot of curse words. But yeah, he's mentioning that
it might be the goblin zone, that troll or that troll area, a
toll Uthak or whatever it is off the coast of Queldenasse.
So it could probably, it's probably going to be that.
That's actually now that you say that, I think it's that I that's
what it is. I would hope so, because that
would make more sense than. I was looking forward to as a
palusia. Yeah, I I would like more
coherency in the story. So that would make more sense at
least we'll see where they go and how they develop it.
But Ian was light on any kind of details because obviously he
doesn't want to give story spoilers and and that, but it is
a continuation of this light versus void.
So maybe it's more light focused in like trolls versus light
would be kind of cool. Not a motif that we've seen
before or even just like light infused trolls would be kind of
crazy for silver moon to deal with where it's like, wait a
second, they're using the same power as us.
We the bad guys here. I could I could give an entire
win this expansion launches. I will give a tirade about
Silver Moon's relationships with the trolls, but that is a
different episode. Next what?
What are your thoughts on 12.1? Without more information it's
hard for me to feel like I can speak confidently about it.
I'm curious, So I was wondering because one of the things it's
housing social and UI updates and we jumped on the fact that's
the first time they mentioned UI updates.
I'm wondering what the social updates, if that's when they're
anticipating they're going to bring in the Wow Ambassador
program, which I realized I tried to Google once the video
dropped and it wasn't out yet. So I'm trying to read an article
as we speak. But essentially, in short, it's
a way to nominate people who are like really good community
members and then those people help bring new players in and
amplify the like, like make the game more fun.
Which there's a little snarky part of me that's like, oh, so
you don't have to pay GMs. But I didn't say that.
Anyway, I'm not sure if that's it really sounds like this.
That's a program they intend to do on launch.
So I'm curious what the social update is if it's not that
because it was apparently a big enough deal they wanted to put
it in. But it's probably that.
I don't know anyway. If it is the ambassador program,
Vasdev, anybody at Blizzard, if you can hear me, please vet the
crap out of these people. I really.
The Ambassador program starts February 26th.
OK, OK, so it's definitely not I like a lot.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
I'm, I'm, I'm a little the the the ambassador program.
I'm curious how it's going to. Go well, they said they were
getting a friends list and everything that.
Oh, maybe that would make sense. Anyway, I don't know.
I thought it was interesting that it was something.
I don't remember them mentioning anything specifically that would
cover that, but apparently like there is a thing they're
planning. Hey, Sean, you want to say what
you think it might be? It's not.
I mean, it's not. Going to be, they would have
announced. That.
By now, yeah, the specifically for the ambassador program, so
it, it's a a growth of the community Discord program that
was started in the EU region and it's now being expanded
worldwide. That's the ambassador program.
In order to be an ambassador, there's two different ways.
Number one is you are a member of one of those one of those
community discords and you are nominated by that community
Discord to be an ambassador. So they already have some
ambassadors selected from these communities that are part of the
community Discord program that are moving forward into
midnight. The other way is to apply.
There's a link where you can apply to both have your Discord
included and to apply to become an ambassador yourself.
And then someone on the Blizzard team, I guess will choose from
those applications based on Twitter and various response to
a tweet. Is that the application?
A lot of the applications getting in now are are quite
good. So that's there will be vetting
on it. Yeah.
I assume it's going to be a lot like if you were one of those
people who like likes to help new players and sign up for
that, like the you see the murlocs on people's heads.
It'll be a lot of people like that I think that are applying
for it. If you don't like helping new
people, don't apply, don't apply for this.
And if you're in a Discord, that's one of the community
discords that's part of this, that's not been rolled into this
ambassador program and you get nominated because you're friends
with the people that run it or whatever, and you don't like
helping people, don't just say yes.
It's not like one of those things that you strive to get
and be like, oh look, I'm an ambassador, but I'm also a Dick.
So please, please 'cause I think this program could do a lot of
good for new players. And I desperately want to avoid
people that aren't super altruistic putting their names
in. So don't accept the nomination
if you're not like that, and don't put your name in if you're
like, kind of a Dick, don't do it.
And even if you are super altruistic, don't put your name
in or accept the nomination if you don't have the bandwidth.
Like helping people is great, but if you do not have the
energy for it, help yourself first.
Like you're not going to do yourself any good.
You're not going to do anybody any good if you're burnt out.
And then people are coming to you because you're an
ambassador, right? So I'm glad that this is put
forward in the way that it is. It is for the people who are
looking to help that that I'm just worried that some people
are going to see it as like a blue check mark and be like, I
got to get it because it's going to make me look more prominent.
Please don't. As for the social update, they
said they were redoing the friends list and stuff.
That's all well and good. What I'm more concerned with is
ignoring section and filter section.
It would be wonderful if I could filter trade chat to just ignore
certain words. If your message has a phrase in
it, just completely, immediately just muted.
I don't need to block that person, but muted.
I am one of those people who have have hit the upward limit
of people on my ignore list multiple times.
Like we've all been there in trade chat and it's just the
wall of wanna run this? Wanna get your 12 plus?
Wanna wanna use my services for whatever profession I'm Hawking
like and we leave, we leave services and they're in trade
and we leave trade and they're we're putting this crap in
general and we report and block and report and block and then
eventually it's just like you've you've reached the the limit.
So just a nice filter system, I think would be a great way of
being able to go about it. What would you guys want from
this? Start with you, Lex.
I, I mean, this is very hyper specific.
I want to be able to copy and paste things from chat without
needing a new add on to do that. That was more of a frustration
in role-playing, but it was a huge frustration in role-playing
that I couldn't like copy what somebody said or like even
someone's name. Oh my God.
Like inviting people to Guild is such a raging pain.
If they're a cross server, if you have to type and if they
have a freaking character, pain in my butt.
It's worth it though. For everyone who I invited to
read who's like, we love it, it's worth it.
I'll type your silly little special characters.
You can have a cute little name, but yeah, that would be my
biggest win. I think it's got to be
significant if they're like putting as a headline because
they just added in that like recently partnered with things
just stealth drop that into into our social.
So like I assume this is going to be something huge.
What? What are you thinking, Sean?
I just hope that it's the ability to queue cross faction
without being in a full group. You thought it was going to say
region, You thought it was going to say cross region.
I got you like you and I have brothers off that AQ enough
times I was. Yeah, I know.
I just want to queue cross faction.
Like right now you can queue cross faction for like time
walking if you have a full group.
It's a pain in the ass if you don't have a full group and like
LFR as well. That's what I hope that the
social update is, that we're allowed to play with our Horde
fans and our Alliance friends whenever we want.
That would be, that would be something.
But I, I expect that there's going to be a, it's going to be
a package of things. Because if they're going to put
it as a bullet point, it feels like it's probably going to be a
bit more outside of 12.0, sorry, 12.1.
And then we go into like 12 point 1.5 and that it starts
getting more and more vague as those as we get further on,
they're going to like revisit this update this and add in more
specifics as we get closer. I'm sure that like once like the
race to world first has cooled down and we're and we're looking
towards 12 point O .5. We'll get an update where that's
showing exactly what we can start expecting for 12.1 and
like far, far more details of that.
There are things that like, they probably haven't even planned
yet, but they're like, Oh yeah, we are going to make those
changes. One of the things that they said
they're going to constantly be looking at updating is housing,
and they've actually announced a couple of features for housing
that will be coming soon. So one thing I'm super excited
about is the ability to group move objects together.
It's like this entire thing, this entire group set that I
have here, I'm going to move this over here or a copy or a
copy and paste. That to me is amazing.
I just was rearranging a, a hallway where I have like items
from particular expansions. And I was like, oh, I want to
start over here as like classic and then BC and Wrath and so
forth. And then I realized that I had a
gap. And so I had to move every item
1 by 1. And so this will be a godsend.
What about you guys? Let's start with you, Sean.
I know you you're rating, rating, rating.
But like any of these housing features look nice to you.
The only one that really matters to me is the one that I asked
them about months ago, and the answer I got then lines up with
everything they've said since, so it wasn't new information.
And that's the ability to have our pets roaming around our
house when we get there. The answer Jesse gave me when I
asked, like when housing first came out, was yes, we want this,
we have to solve collision first.
So it sounds like they have an idea on how to solve collision.
So great. But I got to be honest fam, I
haven't even gone back to my neighborhood.
So I did endeavours once for about 45 minutes and that will
be the last endeavour I do. But I haven't gone back to my
house since before Christmas. So Sean, I have good news on
Endeavours, which is when they are active, during the time that
everything's really exciting and active, you'll be doing them
automatically when you're doing everything.
Plus new dungeons, new delves, which I know.
You do, yeah, yeah, that's, I'll get the points that way.
I'm not going to do any Endeavour specific activities
though. That's Oh, yeah, they're not.
They're not my, that's not. I talked a huge game last
episode about how fun it was having it to just like screw
around with. And then every single day I
thought to myself, do I want to log in and do the endeavour?
And then I thought, no, I could do anything else with my time.
Yeah, and you're not going to hang this Farazra outside
instead. Well, I had already hugged my
Farazra outside and I was like, OK, I'm going to do Endeavour
stuff. And I hit the cap.
And then they put out the news that, hey, we've seen that this
cap is too restrictive, that these diminishing returns are
too painful. And they immediately set forth
and made changes hot fixed in this stuff so that you get more
sorry, the diminishing returns are cut off so you don't go down
to like one or two tickets from something that used to give you
like 10 or 8. They allowed it to go from
instead of getting 1000 house XP to like 2250 housing XP, which
is great because I'm continuing to level up my house, which
which I and really having fun with.
So I guess I'll I'll be the housing main.
Lex can be the R Pier and Sean can be the pet battler, and
we'll all have fun stuff to do. I'm curious I 'cause I have a
theory about mount collectors and people addicted to
increasing the level of their house is your.
Theory that they can't ride. Yes, yes, that that was his
theory from before. Have you?
Have you filled like are you full?
Have you used all of your points in your house or are you
strictly just I need to make this number go up?
I had hit the cap and then I tore parts of the thing down.
And now with this new rebuild, I'm halfway towards the cap, but
I've still got like one room that is utterly empty and I want
to fill in the space. Like I'm my place is a huge,
it's just got a lot of things in it, right?
Like I wanted to build it like cozy and, and like lived in.
And so that's required like a lot of things that I'm putting
together. And I'm not like one of those
crazy builds where like they put together a bunch of columns and
suddenly they've got like Voltron set up, right.
I've got just like different things that I'm like, OK, like
this, these are my coffee cups and I and, and like this is my
like little nook where we're all like make my coffee and my mini
fridge and so forth. And so like that's the stuff
that I've got sort of set up. I don't have a fridge in my
kitchen. Thanks, John.
There you go. And that's the sort of stuff
that I do. You're welcome.
Yeah. Fun.
I'm glad. I'm glad you're enjoying it.
That makes me happy. That sparks joy.
Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of
changes coming. One things that they were
talking about were import codes. So if you are somebody who
doesn't do those crazy builds, but you you walk into Lexus
Place and you're like, Oh my goodness, you can now copy out
part of the layout. And then if you've got the
materials, import that into your well, you can't do that now, but
that is something that's coming in the future that you'll be
able to like copy out something that you see, import that into
your place and use that as the inspiration starting point.
If Lexus created a grand piano, you can then find out what the
materials are for that, put the grand piano in your place and go
from there. So like, I think that is that is
actually something that I had asked for way back before this
had even come out. And Sean, you're like, this is
not something I'm going to do. I just need people to do like
quick build time lapse videos. And I say, what if they have
import codes like the like they have for talents?
And so I'm really glad that this is coming along.
This should help a lot of people moving on from housing though,
something that I think Lex you might be excited for, something
that I, I am like hoping is going to like reignite my
passion in 12 point 1.5 labyrinths.
So Lex, talk us through this. What are labyrinths?
So basically they're a mega dungeon, but it's actually a
delve. So it's it's a really big delve.
It sounds like from what I've been hearing slash this in the
video is probably doing my actual job and being a good
employee Boss. Don't fire me.
You can like start and come back, right?
So it's not like you have to do it all in one run.
You can split it up into little parts, but it's basically like a
big, complex, large delve with different Delvey ways to delve.
Basically to making Delve bigger and cooler and there's more
options and it's cooler, it's more fun and there's more things
to do and you can be in there for a long time.
Yeah, the mega delves called Labyrinth, I think I like that
that phrasing that that coin of the phrase you got there.
I am hoping that as they like turned up the difficulty for
dungeons into mega dungeons and when they originally did mega
dungeons for like Return to Cares and they were very story
built. I'm hoping that these labyrinths
are much the same. I noticed that nowhere in this
timeline is there any pointing to a mega dungeon.
So if the labyrinth is in inserted into the story like the
last mega dungeon we got. If you're call back in
Dragonflight, that was the infinite Dragonflight's Dawn of
the Infinite. So if it's like that, I I could
really be excited for this if it is something that they do more
like I'm going to say Mecca Gone was the weakest Mecca dungeon
for me it. Was the only Mecca dungeon.
I I just mean like story wise and in terms of like impact and
placing, like I felt that obviously there was novelty with
return to Kazan and there was like a very cool story story a
bit Mechagon was just sort of a Side Story sort of thing.
And. Manny Mechagon unlocked an
Allied race as Avesh merely existed.
Mechagon didn't unlock the Mechagomes.
Yeah, that whole island, the the dungeon is the culmination of
that island. That's how you unlocked
mecanomes. Oh they added it, you went
unlocking mecanomes came in afterwards.
But they came from there. That's where they came from.
That's their home. Oh, Manny.
Yeah, it's still still not raiding.
Oh, Manny, Yeah. I will say, I think we've said
this a little bit a few times on the podcast.
Delve, in my opinion, have a very unique ability to add to
the story because they are solo content and they're not timed.
And I don't necessarily know that.
I feel they have dug into that. I feel like the Delve storylines
have always been kind of surface level, so I'm hopeful.
I think that'd be one thing to be really cool with the
labyrinth is to give it more of an ability to get into story,
even little things like wouldn't it be cool if you could read
little like, I mean, I don't know, I probably wouldn't
actually do it. Wouldn't it be cool if it was
possible like, you know, read like have options to go into
more of lower areas or like trigger certain sites that are
only, you know, basically just story fights that you can skip
otherwise and things like that. I think the there's an ability
in single player play to be a lot more flexible because you
don't have to worry about like, well, what are the other
players? Are they either going to be
like, no, we're not going to go over and read the stupid
journal, go do the freaking and plus as fast as you can or like,
oh, well, we have to go do this one thing.
So everyone has to go drag over to this one place and nobody
wants to go. And I think it'll be really
cool, especially with the name like Red Labyrinth, if they do
make this a lot more choose your own adventure.
And they do make it a lot more like if you want to really dig
in and get into this story in a way that you can only
comfortably do in a single player environment, you can.
If you want to just speed through it as fast as possible,
you skip these areas and you just go straight to the boss.
Yeah, I definitely agree with you there, Lex, especially with
the advent of like Mythic Plus making dungeons more streamlined
and all the bosses, faceless punch dummies, the delves, the
labyrinths have a have a real space to explore story and have
characters again, which doesn't happen in World of Warcraft
instance content anymore. So yeah, this this could be a
real opportunity. I like that.
Beyond that, the latest the last thing going all the way to 12
point 1.7, they have a new stand alone mode now.
There was like a little image of some concept art for that.
But this is from the same team that did Plunderstorm, that did
Remix, and now this new thing is coming up.
So what are your thoughts on that?
Let's start with you, Sean. You.
You were the one who fell in love with Plunderstorm and you
did like Mr. Pandaria remix. I'm not sure what your final
thoughts were for remix. Think you you flip-flopped this
so many times I've lost track of where you ended up.
Yeah, it was. I really liked Plunderstorm and
Mr. Bandaria remix. I think you should land on that.
I'm excited. I I like thunderstorm a lot.
I like, I'm I like the Warcraft universe, like the Warcraft art
style. I like the Warcraft team and I
like when people get to be creative and try something
different. So let me see what you got and
you can listen. That's coming out in in autumn.
That's right around Halloween. If you guys, Fasdev, if they
want to see like if they're still sort of like we don't
really know what we want to do. You can have you can have my
idea for the prop hunt, the reverse prop hunt that's free.
You can have that. That could be the event.
The whole event could just be me as a platter of cheese chasing
people down in in Hillsborough. I I'd be OK with that, yeah.
I mean, that makes sense. A lot of those horror movies are
cheesy, so this just sort of really double s down on that.
I was talking to friend of the show Halionics and she pointed
me to a Wowhead article back from When PAX East was around
and we were talking about this in development mode that was set
in a spooky area. This was their part of their
future experimentation and Blizzard confirmed that an
upcoming game mode will not be battle Royale like plan to
start. Instead, it will have a vibe
that is more similar to a scary story.
Additionally, the key image appears to take place in the
town of Darkshire, within the haunted force of Dustwood.
This is all the way back in May of 2025 that this this was
coming. And then when you look at the
key art, it's sort of vibes with that.
So people were. Imagine a game mode where you
don't have you can't attack. So if you've ever played the
game Amnesia The Dark Descent, there's a monster chasing you.
You can't fight. All you can do is run and hide.
So you could have stitches, cause stitches is one of the
creatures that roams this. The roads of Duskwood.
You could have stitches chase the player down and you have to
like run away from him and solve some kind of puzzle in order to
save yourself or save somebody. That could be neat.
Dude, I'm way down. I'm way down for this.
I'm going to create it in my head so that they could never
possibly match what I've imagined, and then it'll let
myself be disappointed when it doesn't match them.
I think is is what I'm going to do, and then I'll say something
completely obnoxious like this could have been an e-mail and
really paint myself as a giant anyway.
OK, I'm sure that many people will join you as we get more
details. So nothing special there.
Lex, What? What are you thinking?
I'm really excited, to the surprise of nobody who saw me go
crazy guys, when we talked about Prop Hunt, I like a little
silly, fun, goofy little thing to play around with.
The biggest hypothesis I've heard is sort of Among Us style
and the art from the video is sort of like a circular,
circular space. I mean, obviously this is all up
for like they're not none of this is locked in.
To me, the video art almost looks a little bit more perfect.
Visions ask. There's like little glowy parts
that seem to be differentiating certain areas, but obviously I
don't know, we won't know until it's closer.
I think it's going to be great. I was less of a remix person
because I don't like long term grinds, Surprise, surprise,
likes a little bit lazy. I loved Plunderstorm.
I mean like once it kind of got super like everyone knows what
to do. It's there's a meta and I don't
really know the meta and I don't really like, I'm not great at
PVPI, didn't get as into it, but like early on it was really fun
because it was just a silly screw around, run around button,
button, button, button, button game.
And I think that was really fun. I think whatever it's going to
be, it's going to be a good time.
It might not be a long term good time but I'm happy to have, you
know, a couple weeks that I play a silly little game and until
someone met makes it a meta and I don't want to read the meta
and I get bored. I'm hoping it's not player
versus player. Some people have talked about
like it being something like DVD where it's this asymmetrical
thing, one one player trying to hunt down four other players
around this scary town and they're trying to hide and do
objectives while avoiding the other player.
Instead, I would prefer if it was more like a repo, another
game that is similarly scary where you're going around you're
trying to collect things and particular things could be like
poltergeists or or spirits that might like chase after you.
And if that might be a cool kind of squad sort of thing to do.
And then have the like poltergeist and all of that be
just NPCS where it's like, oh crap, I trapped, like I
triggered something in the farm and then black get killed or run
away from the farm and that sort of thing.
There's there's a lot of possibilities.
This is just like us brainstorming stuff based on
like very vague hints. But I do recommend for people
who are looking to speculate, go back and look at that old
article from PAX East because it does have a few more details and
it this seems to be them coming forward with that stuff.
It also is something that I really wanted to point out to
you, Lex, because it shows that this stuff is in development for
a good long while before like we ever get our first eyes on it,
which might allay some of your concerns and everything's being
rushed out like it might it. Would lay my concerns more if it
wasn't actually showing up rushed right?
No I know so it also what I didn't.
Maybe everyone else knew this. I was sort of under the
impression that like the Plunderstorm and limits team was
up. Like the World of Warcraft team
was kind of devoting resources while other doing other things.
It seems like they're talking about this like there is a
separate team that is kind of portioned off and that is the
standalone game team. I think it's sorry.
The live team, which was something that was talked about
mentioned at least in in in the video as well.
Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I was being a
good employee and doing my actual job, but yeah, yeah.
So I think I mean, so far everything that team has
produced, I guess remix, they're like remix in general, not just
remix people had on and off, like early on it was a little
bit complicated, but that was really, really big game mode.
Plunderstorm specifically, I thought came out in really good
shape. There were definitely, I mean,
like there were bugs, there were issues, there were things that
you know, exploits and things, but overall it they were like,
it was all OK. And so I'm hopeful that this
team, this team seems to be really good about had like
getting things out in in a really good position.
And look, again, I first of all, I'm trying really hard not to
let my opinion of what is occurring in live be influenced
by my fears, right? So like, I get everything's
going to come out buggy, right? It's, I don't know, like it's a
game with a ton of people code that's, you know, almost as old
as I am, Like it's fine, whatever.
There's going to be mistakes. And I I mean, all of this is
really, really cool. So I'm also not trying to, you
know, be like, Oh no, they're giving me cool, cute things,
dude. Oh shoot, darn, I'm having fun,
right? I just worry because it does
feel like things are coming out half baked more and more and
more and I'm like, OK, are we hiring more people or like,
what's the plan? That's my fear.
But yeah, you're right. They, they're working on this
for a long time. And especially with a standalone
game like this, I'm, I'm really hopeful.
I'm really excited about this. To be honest.
I think this is going to be really, really fun.
I am over the moon, whatever it is, right?
All of these suggestions or something.
I did not expect to battle Royale.
In fact, I think when Plunderstorm came out, I was a
big whiny little baby about it. I was like, I don't want to do
battle Royale. I don't want to do the, I don't
like PvP. And I loved it.
I thought it was really fun and silly and goofy.
Oh, did I stop? Yeah, she stopped.
Oh, I know it's a rarity. Sorry, it was like a puff stop.
I got caught. I caught off guard there.
OK. Yeah.
So like things that have been in the pipeline for a while.
I'm hoping that things are smoother.
They brought on 100 people from Blizzard North.
They are, they're hopefully getting past growing pains,
onboarding pains and going through all of and going through
that. And so maybe things will not be
as rough. We've talked about how there was
sort of a change in course part way through the War Within and
hopefully that means that things will be smoother going forward.
But a lot of this is just hopes and none of it confirmed.
So we will see. Something that we have a lot of
hope for is BlizzCon. Now the two of you will be going
to BlizzCon and that is like the big mark on this September 12th
that they've got there. What are you hoping to see at
BlizzCon? And Lex.
Yes, Lex for sure. What else?
John, keep going. I answered my question I want
I'd like to see a StarCraft shooter.
I more Warcraft, obviously more Warcraft.
I love that and an animated series, the Warcraft animated
series. The RT at the end of this
presentation was a, a trailer for housing that like literally,
honest to God, took my breath away.
And it was easily as good as any animation I've ever seen on a
television series or movie. So yeah, that's, I hope for that
at BlizzCon. I hope they come out and say,
hey, guess what? Our, our team is amazing.
We love them. We signed on with Apple TV Plus
for a deal to prepare to present to, to, to develop a Warcraft
television animated series. That's what I hope.
And Lex. And I want to see Lex.
I wanted to see Manny, but he refuses to come to BlizzCon.
We'll talk about it and after show.
Lex, what are you hoping to see at BlizzCon?
And please don't answer Lex, that doesn't have the same
appeal. I have a mirror in my own God
damn house, Manny. So yes, obviously I'm super
excited to see Sean. I'm super excited to see my
Guild again. That was a really good time.
I think there's some members who weren't able to come last year
who were coming this year and a lot of people who were there
last year who were coming back. It's gonna be amazing.
I'm so excited. I'm over the moon.
So I honestly, based on where they put BlizzCon in the road
map, I don't want to see a lot from World of Warcraft because
yeah, like 12, obviously I think they're going to give us some
information on 12.2, but it's going to be early enough in 12.1
that like frankly, I mean, I guess we will have had, you
know, the the ending of everything.
So yeah, I think they gave us a lot of information on 12.2.
I think they're going to feel like they have to give us some
information on Last Titan, and I kind of don't want them to spoil
the end of 12.2, and I think they probably don't want to
either. So I'm thinking that's going to
be reined in. And if it's not, I hope they
rein it in. Like even if they're thinking
like whatever doesn't like that would suck in my opinion.
It would be disappointing. So my guess is this is going to
be very StarCraft heavy. And I think that's actually
really exciting. I think having BlizzCon be an
opportunity to be like, let's bring back an older IP.
Let's I, I think the idea of the, I'm hopeful the, the mobile
game is StarCraft. I really hope they learn from
last BlizzCon and they drop it immediately upon BlizzCon so I
can play the mobile game through BlizzCon.
That was amazing. I, yeah, I, I, I frankly, some
World of Warcraft. I don't want to see a lot of it
in that point in time. Yeah, this kind of goes along
with what Sean was saying at the beginning, and I said I'd loop
back to it. Well, here I am.
They have been really good with this.
Not to give story spoilers. There was very much like, hey,
this is the general stuff. I'm not going to tell you the
name of of the patch, not going to tell you much of the story
stuff. But I remember just really early
Legion, they dropped everything on the Carazan patch and it was
like was I overlap like Legion was hype, but like to
immediately know what was going on in the in the next major
patch kind of got ahead of itself.
So maybe it could happen at BlizzCon.
I'm I'm unsure I would really. I would really say that the new
unannounced IP that they've been picking up people for now, that
they're picking up publicity, people would love to see some of
that stuff come to light at BlizzCon.
And then beyond that, like, yeah, you're I think I'm with
Lex. You can go light on Warcraft,
push more of the more of the other franchises like to see
what's happening with Overwatch. Please.
I I don't know why I keep hoping for Overwatch to like do
something I like. They're going to announce
Overwatch 3 and still not have started the story from Overwatch
one at this point. I don't know.
At some point I'm going to stop caring.
Let's have start let's have heroes of the storm revived.
That's my that's my dream. Here's the storm revived would
be amazing. But yeah, we will see.
I honestly, it's going to be community.
I just want to get a picture of Lex and Sean side by side that
isn't photoshopped. If when I was drunk, when I was
drunk and being like I've got friends.
I put one in the For Ezra discord.
I put a photo of Lex and I and you.
It's all three of us. Actually, I put I just dropped
it in there in the modern conversation channel.
Oh. There we go.
All right, BlizzCon. Dreams do come true friends, but
we would love to hear what your BlizzCon dreams are so jump into
the fast discord. Let us know and is there
anything else that you guys think we would possibly see at
BlizzCon or you want to talk about from this road map?
Sean you? 2 Two things.
Yeah, the two most important things.
I can't believe we didn't mention Rufus.
So Blizzard has partnered with Habitat for Humanity and they're
selling this giga cute dog pet that comes with a dog house and
a dog bowl. And his name is Rufus, and he's
dressed up like a little construction worker and he's got
little construction boots on his paws.
And if you buy it, money goes to build houses for people that
need it. It's a great 'cause I love it.
I keep refreshing the store 'cause I want to buy it now.
I love Rufus, I've only just met him but I would already kill for
him. And the other thing is the the
date of pre patch we're getting an extra day.
The official launch of pre patch was announced, it's coming on
February 26th at 3:00 PM Pacific Time.
So we're getting 4 full days of pre patch.
So Early Access is coming even earlier for everybody who bought
the Midnight Epic Edition, and hopefully Collector's Editions
are shipped and arrived before then.
I really hope that I am terrified that they won't be.
I'm more likely to get Heroes of the Storm revive before you get
epic dish on time. Yeah, yeah.
I'm really nervous about that. Really nervous about that.
Yeah. Rufus, go buy Rufus.
Get Rufus. He's got the cutest.
He looks like Paw Patrol. It's like Paw Patrol right in
your house. And he apparently does a little
if you idle him. He built something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that the he, he does look like the cutest
doggo. Well, the second cutest. 3rd
cutest. The third cutest I was, Yeah,
I'll accept third cutest. OK, just cause.
Is it 'cause we have a tie for first, or are we as a tie for?
1st So obviously it's it's Reya and then Shadow very close.
Second of Shadow and then Rufus. It's a close.
Second, we'll talk after we'll let's do a, we'll do a poll in
the Discord, we'll put both of our dogs pictures up, and we'll
let the Fazers, we'll let the Fazers choose.
Fazers choose You each get this a bit two photos that that we'll
put into the poll. The FAZ No, we can't actually do
this. One of you will quit in rage.
We can't let the fascination. No, I won't quit in rage.
I will pretend to be OK with it until BlizzCon and then get my
revenge like a good psycho there.
You go OK, but. Unless I win.
So if you want to save Lex's
life, you know which dog to vote for.
For legal reasons, that's a joke.
Lex is not in any danger. I'm delightful.
I am now scared. You know what?
I'm not going to the US anymore. Psycho, Sean.
Oh wow, anymore? That's where he draws the line.
For legal reasons, that is a joke.
Anyways, that's going to do it for us here.
We are really looking forward to this entire year of World of
Warcraft, and we're really glad that they built this state of
Azeroth out of the road map that they used to just put out.
But until next time, may all your hits be good.