The game is dying, the only way to fix it is to scream with the
doves. And if I don't complain how will
it ever get better? I just want the game to be
better. I can't believe they're
releasing a drive system Manny. I wish they would take that dev
time and put it into building a new zone and maybe a new
dungeon. Why don't you just build
Warcraft? For Lauderon for the Karen tour.
For. Pandaria for Calendar to the
burning region, for Gilnaeus or has not died, for the Lich King,
for the Sindori, for the Alliance for the Horn for
Azeroth. Editing Manny here.
John and I recorded this shortly after the Wow Cast, and our
responses are from there. Since that, there's been a
deluge of information, most of it actually confirming what we
talked about in this episode. But just for a reference, this
is going purely off of what we saw in the Wow Cast episode.
We'll be back in 2025. See you soon.
Hello and welcome back to another episode of For Azeroth.
Happy Holidays for all of you who are celebrating holidays at
this time. This will be the last official
episode, but we will be releasing some specials over the
course of, you know, heading into the new year and such
before we come back in 2025. Of course my name is Manny AKA
the true villain. Manny Lexus is already on her
way to spend time with family. You know the blessing or curse
that that may be depending on on earth situation.
But I am joined of course by Sean.
Hello, Sean. Manny, Hello.
Hello. How are you, Sir?
Doing OK I am feeling better I, I can breathe again as we were
saying earlier and I'm I'm happy for my health.
I am happy for my friends and that you know, family being a a
blessing and a curse thing. It holds true with me as well.
Well, I've got family coming up in.
Well, we'll only go Christmas Day into the city to see
everybody, but for us our family is just a blessing.
We have a lovely family, so I guess we'll consider ourselves
lucky. Yeah, now that is always good.
That is always good when family can be considered only a
blessing. But we aren't here to talk about
our personal lives. We're here to talk about the
World of Warcraft. And so Sean, today we got a
announcement. Not really an announcement
because they already announced that Undermine was coming, but
this was the big reveal where they kind of went way more in
depth on the system. So we had the Wow cast with of
course Lynxy Bethany. I unfortunately I've forgotten
her new. Doubt oh new new last name.
Her new last name? She's married now.
Yes, yes, Galliwicks. Was it Bethany Galliwick?
Galliwicks, we I'm gonna, I'm gonna say probably not No, but
Lexi, I apologize if you ever hear this, just just yell at me
for not remembering. I don't know the names of any of
the band members in Elite Torn Chieftain, but that will be the
most fitting because I believe her partner is a musician.
Yes, yes, I I believe that is true.
So we will, we'll have to like edit that in later, but sat down
with two members of the World of Warcraft team and talked all
about Undermine and what's coming up.
So the main meat and potatoes of that were of course going to the
Undermine and how that is now fitting in to the war within in
general. They said, hey, wasn't really
right for us to go there right away, but it's something that
they had always planned. And we've heard that before.
As soon as they were talking about an underground expansion,
the goblin capital was already in their minds.
And so we're going to be going there and we're going to be
dealing with the four major cartels.
And if you did like a little bit of frame by frame analysis, you
could pull out a lot of details. But like overall though, what
did you think about this? Excited.
I thought it was a great video. It was 12 minutes and 38
seconds. They touched on new zone, new
dungeon, new delves. They touched on the drive
system, which I know a lot of folks are excited about.
I'm genuinely excited. I know that's that's a little
bit of a wink and a nod there, but I'm genuinely excited about
the drive system. But we can keep keep going.
Yeah, and they talked about the RAID, which I was excited for,
and everything looks great. I love when Dell, when Dells, I
love when devs have a chance to talk to us.
And you can see the joy on their faces.
They're talking about things, whether it's a trinket in
Theatre of Pain that they designed or whether it's a fun
boss fight or a new dinosaur mount.
So I live for that stuff because, yeah, it's nice to see
that the devs are people, and we should remember that, especially
when we're giving feedback online, that these are people
who are passionate, who are trying to make a game for
everyone that they love. And it's a very difficult task.
If you could do it yourself, you would instead of just smashing
furiously into Twitter. But you probably can't, so you
smash furiously into Twitter. I mean to smash furiously into
Twitter or X or whatever platform that requires a certain
level of skill in and of itself. I, I I I keep screwing up my
punctuation on so many any of my posts, so get on them for full
and complete punctuation. I'm just going.
To celebrate the wins here. I have some pretty strict social
media rules and one of those is never read the comments on
company or like big brand posts and I accidentally made the
mistake of reading some of the replies and comments to this to
this one. They're unhinged.
People have brain rot. I I, I got to tell you like I'm
seeing nothing but good responses here.
First response here is looks fun.
Now give me a glyph of scare Lord to run my ghoul into a
spider dude on unholy DK. Also a glyph from the Rubians to
turn my army of dead into Rubians too.
You know, kind of hijacked the post but not horrible right?
Yeah. Please Sir, may I have some more
tear set previews That's on topic.
It just wanting more of what what was there right as a goblin
mane, I'm hyped for this. Fingers crossed for shadow
tinker tinker a drop so I can play as a shredder pilot
laughing my ass off. I think that's like really good
like these are these are posts of people who are engaged loving
that. I do want to say 11 criticism
that came through here is that post is saying bring back
translation to Spanish. This is kind of a something
that's come up with actually this late latest patch because
we are now what one day we're in day 2 basically because the
first day was basically all downtime.
So we're in the what I will consider the official day 2 of
11 point O .7 and people in Latin America, people in Spain
and other countries where Spanish is their primary
language. Yeah, there is no Spanish
translation because of the voice over strike and Microsoft is one
of the companies being targeted by this.
And so they don't have the Spanish localization in this
hatch. Yeah.
Interesting. Well, hopefully we get that back
soon. Hopefully, but that is kind of
outside of the hands that's higher level than the World of
Warcraft team. So I can't really put the blame
on them or put a tweet out to them, their social media
account, thinking that's going to get anything done.
No, I'm certain that is it generic live, that's the the
husband and wife combo that worked there.
They're definitely the ones that are sounding those.
They won't get them back to the table.
If anybody can get them back to the table, it's it's it's those
two. They can do anything I believe.
Well Jen no longer works for Blizzard, It's just Eric now, so
it's not even the two. Oh yeah, she was with Hearstone
last I had heard. So.
Yes, she was. That contract ran out, as far as
I'm aware. You know what, if you're a
generic and you're listening to me and I'm giving the incorrect
information, go ahead, tweet out to us right into the show.
We'll pair that. Hey, for Azeroth, stop talking
about us. We won't talk about.
Generic news. Big fans though.
Big fans, yeah. And we got tier set, man.
We got a glimpse at tier sets, so that's huge.
OK, I know this is out of order, but I got to talk about these
tier sets since you brought them up you.
Asked me what was in the video. I was just covering it all.
Oh, did I miss one. No, no, I'm just saying it's out
of order. Tier sets were there in the
notes, but like we're talking about it, so let's talk about it
now. So obviously with the new raid,
with a new tier, we're getting new tier sets.
They're doing something different with the tier set
bonuses. Yeah, this.
Yeah, so tell me they're goblin theming everything, right.
So the tier set bonuses now are the two piece on all tier sets
are role based. So healers, and this is listen,
if you live in any other country other than America, you're not
going to get this joke. But if you live in America,
you're probably going to laugh at this and then cry as you
realize that oh man, the game is making fun of how terrible we
are. Healers get an ability now
called insurance and you need that healer insurance to heal
you, which is like America. They're broken healthcare
system. It's funny.
Get it? So maybe may have just cut
something out of the show listeners.
If you didn't hear my, you didn't hear my.
I don't. Think I'm going to, but we're
going to just walk past it. Go, go ahead.
All right, So yeah, it's role based.
So two piece is role based, four piece is going to be class based
and I'm excited for this. Manny, I like this for two
reasons. Obviously the Internet is
defecating blood over this because that's what they do.
But however, had they come out and said, hey, all the new tier
sets require rotational changes, then it would have been I can't
believe you're making me use talent X Blizzard.
Yep, like that's exactly what would have happened.
So they're trying something new. I dig it.
I'm here for it and I actually think this makes balancing a
little bit easier because they're all like OK tanks, we
want to try and make you more uniform.
You have the same two piece. So now we're not accidentally
creating a broken two piece like right now Brewmaster's two piece
kind of sucks and it is contributing to the gap.
It's why the one of the lowest played tanks.
This can help to narrow that. It can definitely can.
No, no, it can't. Oh, sorry.
Not on its own. OK, but it could like.
Being able to say the two piece, if the two piece is balanced for
one tank, it's balanced for all of them.
No because it's it's all role base.
It's the same ability. Sure.
But OK, if you were to look at because they did a preview in
it, again if you do that freeze frame, you will see what the
tank two piece is. Now obviously that two piece is
actually somewhat different between the different tanks.
So on they preview the protection warrior and the two
set bonus that is role is the luck of the draw.
And luck of the draw increases your damage by 15% for 10
seconds when you get that proc. Now what procs it is actually
dependent on which spec you're playing.
So for protection warriors, each time you take damage, you have a
chance to cast shield wall for four seconds and gain luck of
the draw. Now the benefit of shield wall
right will need to be balanced against if it's iron fur or if
it's whatever it is for whatever tank and in that way.
All of the tanks have a SO shield wall, survival instincts,
Guardian of Ancient King. Like, they're all essentially
the exact same ability, so they'll just have it be all of
those. I mean I would assume that they
are different levels of Dr. and therefore they're likely to
adjust it based on time wise. But also, if you give the, let's
say it was the exact same level of Dr. that level of Dr. is
different for, for tanks that are more reactive healing than
tanks that are purely based on Dr. and so forth, right?
So like I just, it's not exactly going to be balanced equally
because it's the same thing. I'll allow it.
OK, that's fair. That's fair.
Anyway, they'll try something new with the tier sets and I'm
looking forward to it. I think it's going to be nice.
We'll see what happens. Worst case scenario comes out
and it's not great. And then a cheerleader, you
know, they make adjustments throughout the tier and then the
next year we get something new. It's not the end of the world.
Do you like this concept? I do.
I do like the concept, yeah, of roll basing the two piece and
then the four piece interacting with that two piece.
So like the tank 1 is like if you have luck of the draw on
four piece, then your shield slams do extra damage or
something extra crit damage, something like that.
All of it's subject to change. Yeah, your your critical strike
chances is like increased by 50% is what the.
Yeah, for for, for just shield slam, I think.
And then it also every shield slam will then also reduce the
the charge or the cooldown of of shield charge.
Again, all the numbers subject to change and even the abilities
really at this point we're still so far out.
But I do I like the I like the concept of roll basing the the
two the two piece. I think that's an A nice idea.
Yeah. Yeah, I also think that it can
allow some other items to to like work with tear sets that
aren't necessarily tear sets much like you would have.
Like let's say there's a trinket that's like on use, guaranteed
luck of the draw, right? Then all these tanks will be
like, Oh yeah, I could definitely use that.
And I think that it's a good way of like linking other items into
a tier set without them necessarily being a tier set.
So I think that that would be cool.
Let's see if that is in this iteration or maybe it's
something they do later. But I am, I'm actually kind of
excited by this. I don't think they necessarily
need to have every tier bonus being its own unique little
Aardvark thing. No, I agree.
And so I'm a tank main, but as a tank main, I'm obligated to say
tanks don't want random products on DRS.
We want to have control of those so we know exactly when we're
sending them. I I get it, but it's a tier set.
Your actual abilities, that's what you want, but this is a
tier set. Think of it more of like the
damage proc is the proc and then the, the Dr. is like a bonus.
You're not relying on this anyway.
It's, it's fun that they're trying something and I like that
it's gambling because we're going into a casino based raid.
It should feel like we're gambling a little bit with our
lives. Yeah, that, that is definitely
true. So there's that.
Of course, with the Tear set, that means that we're going to
be going into a raid. Well, that's not necessarily
true with the new Great Vault, with everything, you never need
to actually touch a raid to go into this.
But the raid is the primary source for all of these bonuses.
And that's where we have the new raid that's coming out.
That is, of course, the liberation of Undermine.
So this is going to be US versus the forces of Galliwicks.
They have said, just like you've been saying for so long and
reminding us for so long, that we are going to have one week of
the patch and then we're going straight into the raid.
That means that we're going to be getting normal, heroic, and
mythic all at the same time. No heroic week.
The week after that, story mode out.
So story mode is coming way sooner this tier.
I don't know how the LFR breakdown is going to be.
I assume that it's going to be one week, one week, every wing,
but the wording in this was not quite clear.
Yeah, I would expect them not to change that.
No, no, Heroic Week is kind of a bummer.
I know a lot of folks really liked Heroic Week, but we knew.
We knew. They told us like they flat out
told us before War Within even came out.
Yeah, we're giving you Heroic in Season 1.
No, you're not going to have it in season 2.
So you can lament to be gone, but it's not a surprise.
Sorry. Did.
You like it in Season 1? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Did you?
Have liked it in season 2. No, no, we no, I don't think
anybody wants their special shout out to Ian has a cautious
possibly Fasdev, We don't know for sure can't confirm, but he
came out when he was when they were saying why they were giving
us heroic week in season 1. It was it's a new tier, new
expansion. Everybody's item levels are a
bit lower When you're starting out, you're going to work your
way into it. The extra window of time gives
you that buffer to really dig into things like crafting and
the questing and and that holds true.
But going into season 2, as they said, when you go into season 2,
you don't have that same issue. You're already probably geared
at just below the level you would normally clear.
So if you're ACE team, you're already geared to go in and be
clearing heroic. You will most likely if you
achieve CE this season, you know, or have already achieved
it, you're probably going to go in and and full clear heroic in
that first week. Having a heroic week, it's sort
of pull some time away right, like it feels almost like a
wasted week because there won't be mythic plus available with
it. So then people are like what are
we doing all you know, then you get the oh, I'm bored.
There's no where's the content new patch already nothing to do.
That's the tweet you would see, right?
I mean. That's the tweet you're going to
see anyways, but. You're going to yeah, 100%.
So I I'm glad there's no heroic week heading into season 2.
Like our characters are already geared for that level down of
the contents. So we can like we'll be in
mythic in the first week, but most teams will be I imagine
that our our CE teams AO and it's the same it trickles down,
right? It's like trickle down
economics. It works every time.
So the I don't actually know what trickle down economics are.
I just I heard they're terrible, so I wanted to joke about it.
So if you're an AOC, he's seen you're going to be in clearing
normal in that first week and then back in the heroic that
same week. So you don't need that, that
extra week, that extra buffer, almost nobody needs it.
So removing it is good. It gets us into the content
faster and for those who aren't Raiders, to get you story mode a
week sooner. OK well I'm I'm looking forward
for this raid. There are a number of bosses. 8
boss raid. It has the carnage, sorry, the
cauldron of Carnage, which is the T Rex versus giant guerrilla
fight. They have like that big tank
fight where they have the tank that seemed to be doing like big
drag racing turns and drifting and everything.
Want to hear Want to hear a tinfoil hat?
Sort of a pie in the sky hope for that fight that I don't
think that is a full size tank. I think that fight takes place
in the casino floor and we get shrunk down and it's a miniature
like tank and we get shrunk down to fight it.
That's what I'm. I'm calling that right now based
on nothing. Based on nothing that would be
sensational and cool. I like it.
I look at that model and I immediately think like, you
know, the Azerite tank from BFA. Yeah.
And the little honk destroyers or whatever, Yeah.
Yeah. So if it's not the shrunk down
one, which I'm totally fine with, I wouldn't mind if it was
like Galliwick's took the plans and was creating his own 1 and
that's sort of like the the through line there.
But your seems to so much more fun than zany and cooler.
So I'm going to go, I'm going to back yours over that they have a
DJ boss which uses the music to control people into obeying only
Galliwick's. This one seems like a fight
straight out of Ashir's Eternal Palace.
Remember 1 Ashir would do the decrees and you'd have to like
move to do that or you take a bunch of damage.
I would love if the DJ boss was sort of a variant of that.
Yeah, I think it'll be a mix between that and blood counts of
blood from council Nathia with the boogie down, Yeah.
Yes, yeah. And then the last boss that we
know of, of course, is the ultimate boss, Galliwick's
himself, who will be in a big mech, which is just his face,
complete with cigar going. And they said that that is also
a mount that the CE teams will be able to get guaranteed.
And then obviously once we move past the tier, it'll drop down
to a percentage drop. That is amazing.
I'm probably going to reach out to maybe one of those teams that
do a carry and be like, hey, hey, want to get me that mount
because that looks so good. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of
fun. I think I'm looking forward to
the raid. And on top of that, can we talk
just I want to touch just briefly on the interview that
Ian gave PC Gamer, since we're talking about the raid.
So every tier, Ian gives it an interview to somebody that says,
Hey, we, we hear the community, we want to dial back the use of
weak cars and the use of add-ons and create fights that are
better visually representative, that don't require that stuff
and that are fun. We literally get one of these
interviews every tier. And then every tier we get an
oven axe. My hope is this year we don't
my, I'm, I'm hoping that there's no oven axes tier that we get
the, the true to form, you know, better visual design, better
visual clarity. And they looked like on that
video that there was a lot of really well defined mechanics
happening, which is good. And they have done a great,
great, great job so far in the war within of helping to do
that. A lot of the mechanics in the
dungeons are really, really easy to see and they're telegraphed
really well. So I'm I'm really hoping that
the raid double s down on that, especially if they're going to
hold true to their their comments about pulling back on
weak ORS and add-ons. Yeah, I would definitely say
that the Nexus Princess fight, I think I could do without add-ons
on normal heroic. I haven't done on Mythic, so I
cannot say on Mythic, but that fight seems so well
choreographed that paying attention, I don't need an add
on for that. I don't need DBM or something
for that. That seems like a fight you
could do with the bass UI and enjoy.
Yep. So yeah, mythic mythic as well.
It's, I mean it's, it's a very tightly choreographed dance in
mythic, but there's no like recor required for it to make it
doable like oven acts, which is undoable without it.
Yeah. So that's the raid of course
going right from that. Let's talk about the dungeon
because you were talking about how well things have been
choreographed in in dungeons. I would say that sort of things
need to be highlighted more. But we are getting a new
dungeon. This is a four boss dungeon
Operation Floodgate. Now if you again quickly pause,
you can actually see each of those bosses.
They do a quick flip through. So we've got of course the
goblins attacking the earthen dam that you see in the ringing
deeps and they're trying to cause it to flood.
Now of course the the heroes jump in there and they try and
stop things and you will need to go through a boss that is going
around in a new mech suit with a bunch of drones that they
summoned throughout the fight. Looked really cool.
Looks like an area of denial sort of fight.
You've got a next a goblin that's strapped up with a
jetpack and rocket and shooting like either rifle or cannon.
Didn't get to see any gameplay of that, just the fight of it.
The model of the goblin herself, we have that hulking Moss
elemental that's a rare in the ringing deeps.
It's like right in front of the dam looks like maybe like Big
Brother version of that or that one just, you know, after being
beaten up weeks after week is now looking to get some revenge.
And then it ends with a goblin that is just absolutely suffused
with lightning to the point where I'm like, maybe this is
like a goblin shaman sort of thing.
I'm not sure. But they've got a big battery on
their back, so they're not really calling the elements.
Looks like there's a lot of lines, very well told
telegraphed lines that you need to avoid on that that's being
shot out from them. So looks like a fun dungeon.
Looks like an area that we've been in before.
I'm glad that it is 4 bosses and not 5 or 6.
It's another short, boss. Yeah, brother.
Yeah, I would prefer three. I'm a big fan of three boss
dungeons, but I'll take 4. I'm just.
Saying we're getting trial of pain.
What's it called? The Nile.
Draxis 1. Theater pain.
That's a 5 boss.
That's a 5 boss dungeon. I'm like.
Yeah. So I'm glad to see this one down
at four. Yes, three would have been
nicer, but it is what it is at at this point.
It's going to be immediately available on normal soon as the
patch goes live. Mythic Plus coming with the new
season and I believe that means that Heroic also would be with
the new season because Heroic follows the seasonal changes.
I think so. I think that's how it was.
No, we were able to do. Yeah, I know.
I think that's how it was that that's right.
I'm going to say yes, because we couldn't do heroic versions of
the current season dungeons until season started.
So yeah, I think, I don't know they're going.
To. I mean you can do mythic zeros
anyways if you if you wanted to because that is just walking in
turning into mythic. Actually that I'm not sure of
either. You if there's no season, we
wouldn't be able to. We don't know.
Blizzard will put a post out. We'll clarify it then.
So that's a that's a dungeon. We're going to be spending a lot
of time there. I just need to get like, you
know, hands on time to know if I like like that dungeon or not.
If it is much with what they've been doing with the war within
dungeons and they're tuning or this is going to be adjusted
based on the lessons that they've learned from season 1.
So I have no idea where this will be.
That brings us to Delves. Now you and I are not the
biggest Delve people, but we're getting 2 new Delves in there.
That is the evacuation site 9 and the street side sluice.
Now these are both both going to be new new delves, but the old
delves are getting a bunch of new rather not a bunch, but the
majority of them are getting goblin theme variants.
And then there's going to be a new Zekiver style encounter with
new rewards. I believe this is going to be
dark views that was mentioned a couple of times in this this
video. So that's my guess.
We'll see if that proves right. There's a new seasonal mount
which is a variant of the season 1 mount, but this is the
Gobtrotter mount and a nice little gold blinged out version
for those of you who defeat the challenge mode.
Yep. The biggest change with the
season of course is Bran getting a tank spec.
Now I I assume this means nothing to you because you're
going to be taking not Bran. Yeah, yeah.
But I have a question. Manny.
Bran is a ranged tank who's obviously using a mechanical
shield and a pistol. Does that not scream Tinker to
you? I suspect this might be a way of
them testing the waters a bit in a very safe manner.
I, I'm going to be looking deeply at it because I, I don't
want to. I think it's a test.
It's, I think it's definitely a test.
And do I think that in 11.0 point, sorry, rather 11 point
1.5 we'd see Tinker show up? No, I don't think it'll be that
quick, but I could see it coming down the line based on this
testing. Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, he uses a shield and a gun.
He's also getting new curious, including a curio that is
specifically from the challenge mode that's going to allow him
to summon a mech that you as a player will pilot.
Fasdev, I obviously that you would lock this in way before
our last last episode where we talked about like people playing
in US, very set abilities and such.
But we're going to take credit anyways.
Yeah, this feels like them moving in the direction of Faz
Delves. Faz Dev took the notes on Faz
Delves and we're moving towards it.
Delve Team 6 is operational. That's right.
And of course, that brings us to my favorite part.
And clearly people's on the Internet's favorite part, the
drive system. Yes, Yeah.
Tell us about this, Sean. Drive the dynamic revolutionary
improvements to vehicular experiences is going to be
somewhere in the range of three to five times faster than ground
mounts are and a little bit faster than dragon riding.
It's not called that anymore. Dynamic flight a little bit
faster than dynamic flight at top speeds.
And they want to see our clips. They want to see US, Tokyo
drifting around undermine. They want to see burnouts, they
want to see drag races. Send it all.
Tag them in the tweets. Yeah, they seem pretty excited
about it. Dragon riding when it was
released, which is currently now Dynamic flight was fun when you
first got your hands on it. And I think we need to give them
anybody who's nervous about this or skeptical about this, let's
give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're
all professionals. They're not going to release
something that's a buggy, janky mess that everybody hates.
And if they do, even if they do, you've got probably, what, 3 to
700 ground mounds? You can just mountain ride, ride
some of those. You haven't used them in a whole
expansion. Give some love to your meat
wagon. That sounds horrible, but I, I
think that this one is harder to implement worldwide than dynamic
flight just because you really have to sort of build the world
around this, in my opinion. Like you're not going to go and
use this drive system along the streets of Storm winds.
You're just going to end up in flying into the sewers or the
canals in between. Yeah, that's a strength though,
not a weakness because they can design it.
They can literally design it just for the zone itself.
So they can have like this is our drag strip.
We can make it so this thing functions exceptionally well in
this contained box because we don't have to consider how it
functions outside of this. Whereas with dragonflying they
had or dragon riding, they're like we going to make sure that
this isn't going to be completely broken everywhere
else. And they did that by slowing it
down before they gave it to us. All this is broken.
This is horrible. Yeah.
Well, it's going to be gold. There's going to be, of course,
like you said, the city is designed around it.
There's going to be 4 time courses that are going to be
available in both the forward and reverse flavors.
You're going to be able to customize your car or your drag
race vehicle, whatever it is, not only in color but in things
that are actually performance. So the speed, the handling, the
throttle is there. I think that that's what's makes
it the most interesting because tweaking it so that the throttle
or the handling is different and maybe you give up the speed will
allow you to do better in some courses, but worse since other
courses. And it might be that there is a
good particular set up per course and that just makes this,
well, super deep. Yeah, I never thought of that.
This, this loadout for this course, this loadout for this
course, if they have a, if they don't have a way to quickly
change loadouts, I'm certain Peter, you will design one into
narcissist or plumber for us. So either way, we're getting
one, folks. Buckle up.
So yeah, that that's gonna be great.
I think that there is, there's a lot of potential here and I'm
hoping that it lands well. And then, yeah, I think in
general beyond that, it's where the story is going to be taking
us. How we're leading up to this
with the 11 point O .7 that's just been released.
The entire heroin or story, I haven't had a chance to play it
myself yet and I'm looking to go into that.
But that leading into 11.1 and where it goes in the future, I'm
excited. Again, this is this is what I
was looking for in terms of like going into the new year, what
the story was going to bring, getting that that hype going.
I'm really glad that they're giving this to us, you know,
days before Christmas. From what we've seen so far.
What's the thing that you are hoping as a sleeper hit?
Hoping is a sleeper hit. What do I hope is a sleeper hit?
Sleeper. Man, not like cuz, man, if I was
to say, like, what do you think is a hit?
It's like, I hope that the the the the raid mythic plus and the
raid just goes swimmingly. But we all hope for that.
Like what's the thing that you're like?
I didn't expect to see it coming, but I hope it's amazing.
I hope the story is amazing. I want to walk away from this,
not just tolerating goblins, but like maybe even rolling up my
own goblin. Like I want to walk away from
11.1 with a better understanding of who goblins are as a people
and with them being fleshed out beyond the, you know, the, the
time is money friend trope. That's my that's my sleeper hit.
And and you know what? They did such a great job with
the earthen. They made they made literal
rocks interesting like factor that like the early rocks
Blizzard made them. They made literal rocks
interesting and war within story has just been like home run
after home run the 11.1 stuff I'm sorry 11 point 0.7 stuff is
good. I did it today.
I even like the siren Isle quite a bit.
Yeah, and we can talk about that in a second if you want.
But that's my hope is that the this story of undermined.
I hope that I hope you walk away from that going wow, I did not
expect to feel feels for goblins.
OK, yeah, I wouldn't call that my sleeper hit just because I've
been banging that drum for a while now, like, you know,
filling out these characters that were jokes for a while now.
I I think I'm going to go back to that drive system.
I'm hoping that because there is these actual modifications that
you can do to the handling, I'm hoping that those races take
off, that people go super deep into that, that that becomes
sort of stuff that people want. And then from there the devs are
like, OK, let's give them more. And then we get like racing
courses here, even if I personally am sort of like done
with it after first blush. I think that it is a system that
can be revisited a bunch of times that can not have to be.
It doesn't need to be Evergreen. It doesn't need to be in every
patch. And I really hope that it's not
right, but I would love if every couple of patches, every
expansion or so, they go, hey, we've introduced a drag racing
area to Area 51 and here's these time trials and you can go out
and go do that. And people are like, oh, great.
And they they pull out their drag racer and they go and do
that and they tweak their stats and that and that just becomes
like a little side game that people do.
Yeah, I like that. I that would be cool.
I I really do think they should have a just a strip.
So you put on all your fastest speed, your lowest handling, and
you just build a drag racer and then they have one that's, you
know, more handling required. So you drop down on speed, you
add handling and you should get it would be cool if there's like
a course director that you talk to that gives you those hints
but doesn't just say build speed like they said.
They would say things like, you know what I mean?
This track is designed for blah, blah, blah. the IT gets slick
around these corn. Like give us clues in that.
Obviously we're going to pass it down to a wow head post.
What's the best builds? Reach rates?
But it'll be fun learning it the first time.
I mean, the way that you break that is that it becomes a best
out of three on different tracks and you don't get to switch in
between and therefore you can no longer min Max to a particular
thing. You have to be like, OK, what is
like, I don't. Like that I want to.
No, no, because like two of them could be his favor one way and
one goes the other way. And you're like, hey, I can get
enough of a lead in this. No, I don't like that.
You don't like it? No, I want to.
I want to. I have a separate build for
every boss and like three of them are the same build, but
it's still a separate build for every boss.
I'm fine with that. I just think that you have all
of it, right, where everybody gets their best times per track.
And then you have like the quote UN quote Grand Prix thing so
that people have like separate things.
So people are like, oh man, I'm going to this is the best build
and I'm going to get my best time for this track.
And then also here's like a race and people can race over the
course of the month. And the best overall time for
these three you get your bragging rights would be like
these little grand prixs that could show up.
I love it. And apparently you do not love
Shadow though. Dude it's wild.
This entire show she's been literally right beside me
chewing on her paw and it's the worst sound in the history of
sounds. If you don't hear it, make sure
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Yeah, yeah, it's anyway. I've done the Siren Isle too and
I enjoy it and a lot of people are unhappy with it.
I like that it's a once a week, 30 minute commitment and not a 2
hour daily trek that I have to make more of that, please.
And the story is nice because it's, the story reminds me more
of like Dark Souls and Demon Souls before it, where you get
the story in reading the tablets and reading the pieces that you
find around the island as opposed to having it being
delivered through exposition. And I like that.
That sort of fleshes it out. Sour Island's a hit for me.
That ring, it got buffed pretty good.
Pretty good. So once the gems are all
unlocked, yeah. Let's let's talk about those
gems because that's a a point of criticism right now.
So in this first little bit, again, we're on Day 2 of of
this, there's only four gems that are available with more to
be unlocked later. They haven't said exactly when
they're going to get unlocked. It might be with the daily,
sorry, the daily so like on Friday and so it's shifting
every two weeks. It might be that it is with the
it's a weekly thing. So every reset on Tuesday,
that's when we can get new gems in the PTR.
Over the course of the PTR they said hey, the rotation is speed
up and it should take and there's like six weeks that to
go through Sarn Isle. But that's not necessarily the
ring itself. That might just be the.
Ring powers up, but it also gets gems, so you power the ring up.
So that's six weeks is to Max power the ring.
But you should have collected all of the gems by then, I
suspect. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was a choice. It'd be neat if there was.
You know what? Maybe there is?
Maybe there's what? I'm going to walk around the
island and talk to people. Well, if they just had somebody
who said because the island has like 3 phases, it's like a storm
phase and a very cool phase and something else.
It would be neat if there was somebody on the island who was
like just saying like, you know, obviously better wording than
this, but oh, the phase is going to change in so many days, you
know, or that, you know, this is at least this is only going to
last for a couple of days. Like that kind of thing to give
us an idea instead of Blizzard having to come right out and say
this is when it cycles, it will be cool.
There might be somebody on the island who says that, who knows?
The people that go on Twitter and complain, they never checked
that. They just go to complain.
There. Sorry, it was a really.
Love day I had. I had to add a lot to the meet
list. You went into some dark places
up here. Did he literally there's Manny
probably used it as a cold open. So if you're still this far on
the show, you probably heard the cold open.
But somebody literally complained about the drive
system and how it was stupid and how instead they should build a
new zone and make a new dungeon on the video, showcase the new
zone and the new dungeon. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a it's unusual man, Oh man.
But but I think that explaining in game is something that
they're trying to do better with.
Obviously with Kadgar and his his entire entire Dalaran thing.
It says check back with with Kadgar in 21 days.
And then it's actually ticking down as the days have been going
to have somebody who's sort of like, Oh yeah, the storm looks
like it's coming in in two weeks, or it's like those
Valkyr, I don't think they have enough supplies to last more
than this many days. That would be a cool thing to
do. Now the rotation is going to be
like not a coming in or the Valkyr or whatever, whatever
faction is attacking it, which does change the flavor of the
island each time it shifts. I think that does help to keep
it fresh. I have been spending all of my
time doing some of the backlog of stuff that they added in to
the old world. So I've been running around
Zandalar and Storm Song Valley doing stuff to work towards
those men achievements that they put in and I think that is
fantastic. So the fact that I only needed
to spend a little bit of time on the island to get what I needed
done, and I can now go back and work through all of this backlog
of stuff, I love it. I love it.
I think that this is a great thing to add in around the
holiday season, where my time is being pulled and how many
different directions. Yeah, I'm.
I'm a fan. 10 out of 10. Saira Island, 10 out of 10.
You want to give me a small place with some flavor that I
only have to go to once a week for 30 minutes all day long?
Liz, I'll take those. Porn.
Not all day long. That's the beauty of it.
It's not all day. Long.
That's right. It's not all day long.
Yeah, yeah. And it's value too for people
that work. Like, obviously I don't work.
I said at home my my job is literally Warcraft.
But it's nice that to know the people who have actual real
jobs, real functioning adults don't have to be like, oh man,
I'm falling behind because I couldn't do my 7 hours of Siren
Island Isle grinding today. I don't know.
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to fight you on this, feel
like you do a real job and you do a good job at at it and that
you are a very functional adult. But other people don't have as
much time in the game as you. So yes, I'm happy for them all.
Right. I'll take that.
That was nice. That was Manny's Christmas gift
to me. Appreciate it.
I'm a cheap miser. Anyways, I think that's going to
do it for us this year. Again, stick around.
Next week you should see a post where it is going through Final
Fantasy and how their Housing Works, and then what they could
the developers could learn and bring to World of Warcraft.
And then following that, we're going to take a little trip into
The Elder Scrolls Online again to look at their housing and see
what lessons we can learn from them as well.
And then we will be back, of course, in the new year until
2025. May all your hits be grits.