Hello everyone, and welcome to for Azeroth the podcast, all
about World of Warcraft. I'm your host, Jocelyn joining
me. As always is my co-host Manny.
Manny? How's it going doing really
well, this week? So much to go through.
I just want to get into it. I know we have a huge show for
you. This week we have so much news
to cover paczkis just happened. So we got a lot of news there.
We also got a BlizzCon announcement and we've got Alpha
news, we got tons of stuff there.
The Lord we're doing this week is going to be the zandalari
trolls. So, we've got some really cool
storytelling that's going to lead into the Allied races
coming with battle for Azeroth. Then we're going to talk to you
guys about tradeskillmaster. So we have a jam-packed show
this week. I'm really excited about it.
Let's Jump Right In BlizzCon. We have dates.
A lot of people were really really worried because we hadn't
gotten dates for BlizzCon yet and it's like you know, a third
of the way through April and people like normally, we know
like a month ago, what's going on?
Is there even a BlizzCon this year?
So, we did get dates announced is going to be November 2nd and
3rd, which is kind of the weekend.
Everyone assumed it was going to be, so I don't really know why
it took them. So long to actually come out and
announce the dates this time. I guess they had the nail, some
things down, I guess. So I wonder if maybe there was
like a conflict with the convention center or something,
I don't know. But, November 2nd and 3rd has
now been confirmed tickets. Go on sale, May 9th and May
12th. So May 9th in the evening at 7
p.m. Pacific and May 12th in the
morning at 10 a.m. Pacific.
So I get these are going to be super hard to get.
I'm sure as they always are. There's a limit of four per
person, any time I've ever been able to successfully, buy a
ticket. It's been buying one ticket at a
time, so, I think that it's better to get like a whole bunch
of friends who don't necessarily want to go trying to buy one
ticket and then you pay all of them then trying to get a chunk
of four tickets. I fight.
I don't think I've ever had like a the full limit of for work for
me ever. I have had two tickets go at the
same time, but I have never had it as a larger group.
And I like you said, I've had a network of friends that have
just been like, do this for me, you know, I'll this will work.
Yeah, I'm good for it. I promise, just, I need you to
click refresh. So, tickets are going to be two
hundred dollars American plus taxes and fees.
So, definitely not cheap, but I've always felt it was worth
it. I love going to BlizzCon.
Manny are you going to be attending BlizzCon this year?
I don't think it's in the cards this year but if I don't go I
always use the virtual ticket. It's not available yet but you
get so much access and honesty from what people have said like
it's not the same experience but you get more information looking
through the virtual ticket than when you're on the show floor.
Oh 100%. I feel like I missed out on so
many things when I'm actually at BlizzCon because it always seems
like you're attending one thing and then there are 50 other
things going on at the same time and even if you're attending one
thing and it, And trying to like keep up with like a live blog of
something else. Like it just there's just it's
information overload at least like with the virtual ticket you
can kind of like leave and come back and you know like balance a
whole bunch of different things. Yeah.
It's virtual ticket is the way to go if you want actual like,
information out of BlizzCon but when it comes to like atmosphere
and Esports and all that kind of stuff, it's definitely worth the
price of admission. I think also the BlizzCon
benefit dinner, ticket sales Happening as well.
That's going to be on, May 16th at 7 p.m.
Pacific. This is something I never do
because I would love to do a charity dinner thing, but I feel
like the BlizzCon benefit dinner is one of those like bucket list
kind of things that like, maybe one day I'll be able to go and
get all dressed up fancy and like something like do that
whole benefit dinner thing. But that is definitely not in
the cards for me right now but it is a great cause.
So if you do have the The means and you will be able as Khan and
you would like to attend the benefit dinner.
Then those tickets go on sale on May 16th.
We also got a whole lot of news coming out of PAX East as well
armed. I guess, like number one, piece
of news that came out of PAX East, was that we finally got an
official launch date for battle for Azeroth August 14th, which
is awesome. It's like five weeks ahead of
their furthest potential date still a little bit later than I
was expecting. I was kind of hoping For like a
June. Although I do realize we are now
part way through April, but I'm talking like, back in like
November December, I was thinking that maybe we might get
it as it really as early as June.
So August 14th, still not bad. Feels like a real good pace for
Content. How do you feel about the pacing
of the content throughout Legion?
Well, you're looking at Legion and it's a longer expansion than
Warlords, but there was just so much more in there.
It was just a Content Rich expansion.
I really loved it. I haven't done anything Legion
was longer than Warlords. Legion will be out longer than
Warlords. When all is said and done, it
actually lasted long, it did not feel like the warlord's to me,
looking back. Feels like that was like five
years of my life, because it was only two major 10th, the initial
one, right? And then like a .5 launch, where
we got BlackRock Foundry, and then 10 and jungle and seven.
Rather six plus six point two. They ruined the game for me
because that's when they broke PVP.
That's like the only thing I remember from that, expansion is
how terrible 6.2 was and just the huge content drought going
through that. But you're looking now, we're
heading to August 14th, which is actually a very Very strange
date to me. But even then, August, 14th
means that yeah, Legions being out will be out longer than
Warlords. Put the August 14th is just so
strange to me because it's in the middle of summer and I
figured if it wasn't going to get out in like met that they
would push it till like the end of August much like Legion where
it came out like the last week of August Yeah, I'm just I'm
really quickly Googling all the expansion.
Try to find the expansion release dates.
But I feel like normally they're kind of like early kind of fall.
Oh, I guess Legion. Yeah, it was in August but then
they've been November September to November December like kind
of fall releases or most of the other ones.
So that it's interesting that they're moving into the whole
summer release kind of window, which is good because I find
like my biggest content drought in terms of like games to play
and games to cover. Usually happens in August and
even into September. And then you've kind of got the
bigger AAA title. Releases that come in October
and November because you're kind of leading up into Christmas and
Black Friday and all that kind of stuff.
So october-november, he's usually really heavy for game
releases and there's a bit of a drought through the summer.
So I love that. We're getting this in August.
I feel like I'm going to have nothing else to play and then so
a lot of time, I'll be able to Just dedicate to battle for
Azeroth. So I'm really, really excited
about that. And they said as well that the
kind of content release schedule is going to be about the same as
it was for Legion. So again, that really kind of
Faster. Paced constant updates all that
kind of stuff that we got in Legion.
They're going to continue that going forward, which is amazing.
But there is one major exception to that.
They felt that the 7.1 release was too quick.
That was the release that had care.
Has an in it. They felt that that came to
quickly afterwards, so they want to give more time.
And I think that's part of the reason that they're actually
releasing it earlier because they still want that content to
I'm out at a good Pace, right? But they don't want to have that
release. Somewhere in Christmas will get
lost over two over, the Christmas rush.
So, I think that instead of releasing that content later in
the calendar year, they're actually releasing the game
earlier, right? So we're going to get the game
in August and then so you think seven point one might then come
in like November or past Christmas.
And be like January. Oh no, I think it did the 8.1 as
it. Were royalty before the end of
the year. Okay, cool.
That's very exciting because I know like 7.1, I think did get a
little bit lost for me because I think we did run care has an a
few times when it first came out and it was really interesting
because it was really challenging and I did feel like
a raid for five players. So it was a really enjoyable
chunk of content but I can't even tell you other than Kara's.
What came out in 7.1 I guess was 7.1 Insurrection.
Was that the serum? Our storyline as well.
Yep, that's started. Pushing the Stormare storyline.
I remember this because I remember watching a move doing
Dungeons and Kyle doing the healing on the priests and all
of that and really enjoying watching you guys.
Do that content and going through it myself.
Yeah. So that was that was the Sir
Mark campaign and I that I don't know.
I remember at the time thinking like you know, one set of quest
permit, I hate the time gating. I wish it was just like, okay,
this stuff is available now and you can play it when you get the
chance to play it. I hate time gating so much, but
at least the Insurrection campaign felt better.
When if they had to timegate anything, those quests kind of
made sense because you were trying to pull together people
from all over the place. You were trying to assault sir
more like that made sense to me, but then when we got to 7.2,
which I think was the worst patch in Legion with all the
broken Shore stuff. When we went back and it was
like, killed two hundred demons fine, 10 Treasure Chest.
I was like, oh khadgar you're the worst.
Yeah. 7.2 had the worst time gating with the entire Legion
Front campaign and come back next week and I'll give you
another fetch Quest. Yeah, but 7.1 One which did
include the night. Hold rate.
It was just the again. Gated it they'll release later,
but it also had a really weird time getting where it's like,
let's do this storyline and the storyline was quite engaging,
but then let's wait a week, so that this fruit can mature.
So it was again that time gaining, but you didn't care so
much because it was story rich and enjoyable, so it does show
that time gating can be done. Right in certain circumstances
you say, right? But I would still say just don't
get my content but you're right that when it came to getting the
fruit in the Sir Mark West and stuff like that, at least that
felt kind of okay, because you're right, there was a lot
more story there once we got to the shore, The Brokerage, or it
was just there was no story there whatsoever.
It was just like, we just don't want to let you and yet, so, Get
resources. But but yeah.
So anyway, it seems like we're going to have the same sort of
cadence of content. And it seems like at least from
what they've announced so far with things like War fronts and
the island missions and stuff like that.
Feels to me like there's going to be quite a lot of repeatable
content in battle for Azeroth. So I feel like I might not Run
out of stuff to do, or, like, get bored and they don't feel to
me at least, especially the island Expeditions.
Don't feel to me, like, just doing world class or just doing
dailies like, it seems more engaging than that.
And like, they will be more repeatable because of the kind
of random generation that goes on behind it with like, you
might go to the same island, but it'll have different people
there and they'll have a different problem this time.
And so, I think it's going to be a I think it's going to be
interesting and repeatable and it's going to take awhile to get
sick of that content. So, I'm more than ready to start
getting in there and playing battle for us around.
So I'm glad that we actually have a date now that I can
actually count down to definitely.
They have such a solid foundation that they set in
Legion for all these systems and now we're seeing them just
evolving upon it. So, like having those randomly
generated islands that you can go and like, I have like
different challenges based on like which direction you go W
Pond. Where is very engaging content?
That seems like it will stay fresh for a while.
Same thing that they've done with like Mythic pluses where
the same dungeon can change from week to week based on its
affixes. Yeah, right.
And they've done a great invention that and I'm just like
Not my favorite thing, but I think I think you're right that
the the islands are going to be the next kind of level to that
sort of a system. And a lot of people got a lot of
use out of them, I think bus system and the Mythic plus
dungeons. That's all staying, that's
coming back around again, in battle for us are.
All right, so, they're not getting rid of that system.
Oh yeah. They're not only not getting rid
of it. They're doing many improvements
to it. They're shifting around.
When affixes are coming. There are actually improving the
UI so that you can see how you fare from week to week instead
of just like how you fared this week and there's a lot of things
that they're doing to like improve that and even improve
the viewability of it. So where they've done like the
mdis now, they're sort of realizing that this is such a
great system that they're really doubling down on it.
That's awesome. The other thing that we found
out date-wise when it comes to battle for Azeroth is that the
pre launch event is going to be four to six weeks prior to the
expansion. So somewhere from kind of the
beginning of July up until my birthday.
My birthday is July 14th. So exactly one month before the
launch of the expansion. So, yeah, so sometime in early
to mid July, we're going to be getting the pre launch event
which is always exciting. One of my favorite parts of
Legion was the pre expansion event eye level.
So many characters and those invasions doing it, the proper
way, not just AFK thing. Like some people if Cain was the
way to do it, I actually went around the participated and
learned my classes by killing things but yeah so we don't know
exactly what the pre launch event is going to be.
Do we Well, they are talking about how it's going to be a
very story focused event. It's going to start in dark
Shore, lead through tell drechsel and Lord are on there
was going to be to cinematic event. 14, tell tell, tell
yourself and the burning of the tell Giselle and then one in
lordran and The Taking of loader on.
So it's it seems like the most ambitious pre launch event that
they've done yet. That's awesome.
There's also going to be that's where we're going to get the
story about the weapons, right? And how we're going to go from
being a champion in our individual classes and kind of
transitioning away from that and going back to being more part of
the alliance of part of The Horde, correct?
Yeah, they are doing that. Your your Champion is leaving
the class Hall and leaving that class, Focus thing and becoming
again, affiliated with like the Hoarded Alliance.
But the loss of the Parenthood loss of your artifact weapon,
we're not entirely sure that that's going to be part of this
pre launch event or it might be a little bit earlier.
It's not exactly connected with that storyline but who knows
when it's going to come out. Yeah, and I mean like there
there seems to be I mean we talked last week about all the
things that we should be potentially doing leading into
the new expansion and the pre launch Is probably where a lot
of this stuff is going to start to be patched out.
So you've got kind of like, Two and a half more months, possibly
three months, but I would say, like if you plan for two months
and then it turns out to be 3 months, then, you know, you're
good, you don't want to plan for three months and then have it
turned out to be two months. So, you've got a, still, a
couple of months of time where you can get everything done
before the next expansion launches.
But make sure that if you have things that you want to do,
you're getting them done. Because yeah, it's coming
beginning of July at the earliest.
But, yeah, make sure that your If checking all those boxes and
going down the list of things that you want to make sure that
you have done in Legion before we actually get the launch of
battle for Azeroth. We also got more information
about Allied races, Dark, Iron, Dwarves and Meg, karmic, mag
heart. Am I saying that right?
The bag heart works? It makes the uncorrupted.
Then that's a like, I know where they're from, and I know it's
just, there are so many of these names that like, I've read in
the novels, or like, even when you're playing through Outland,
there's not nearly as much voice acting in some of these older
expansions and there isn't the new expansion.
So I find like there are some words and some like tribes and
stuff that I'm just like I have no idea how people actually say
this. I know how I've said it in my
head for five years, but anyways, so those two factions,
those two Allied races are going to be able or going to be
available to players after the war campaign.
So after battle for Rocket launches, they're actually going
to be available before the zandalari and the Colts errands
which have been slated for later in the expansion.
Which I mean, I know Manny and I talked about this when the news
actually came out, but I'm really disappointed about this
and I know Manny you kind of have the opinion of like, well,
when did you think we were gonna get them?
Yeah, for me it's just the the content needs to be spread out
so that each of these races have their time to shine if they just
throw them at you, right? When 8.0 launches, you're going
to feel bad because, oh, I can't level these.
I'm going to fall behind everybody.
If they throw it out right, when everybody's going into the raid,
people are going to be upset because oh, I should be rating
and I've got to go back and lovely.
So there's no. Vic time for this to spread it
out, and people can enjoy it as they get to it.
Yeah, I think my biggest complaint about this
announcement was basically that we're getting dark Iron Dwarves
and the Orcs, which were announced Like, later before the
zandalari and the cool Terrence who were announced earlier, if
that makes sense. So, I was kind of expecting The
race has to be available in-game kind of in the order that they
were announced. So I thought given the way they
were talking about them at BlizzCon that the zandalari and
the Cultura. Well, I thought that all Six
Original Allied races that were announced to BlizzCon.
We're going to be available like on launch of the expansion and
then when we ended up getting four of the races Early Air
quotes early, I was kind of like, oh yeah, a cool bonus.
So you know, I can do my void elf and my night Fallen, I can
do them now and then when the expansion launches that frees up
my time to create and level my zandalari troll, I actually
thought there was a chance that they might have the zandalari
and the Coulter ins available to us like in the pre launch event.
So I could level in those weeks heading into the expansion and
then have my zandalari. Ready to play in battle for
Azeroth. So I'm definitely disappointed
because the zandalari is the one I was looking forward to the
most and so now to find that it's going to be later in the
expansion to me. That feels like I'm not going to
get to play the zandalari trolls and like, when I was wanting to
it's like the zandalari are going to be the class that I
might use in the next expansion. And that are sorry the race I
use in the next expansion and that to me feels bad, like I was
expecting to be playing as a zandalari alongside the horde in
the battle for lordaeron. Sort of thing, you know, like
right in there as we start our war campaign in the launch like
that. To me, going to the zandalari
and asking for their help and all that kind of stuff.
Like, I wanted to be playing as that race while I was having
that experience. So I am a little bit
disappointed. I agree with your point that
there should be a staggered. Release of these Allied races
but I just kind of thought it was going to be flipped.
I thought we were going to get zandalari and Coulter and first
and then dark iron and Orcs after.
So It is what it is. We're gonna have to keep
waiting. Well, there is a little switch
that they did there because the original six races that were
announced included dark iron but didn't include to kill.
Taryn. So the alliance got their first
three right at the at the beginning of the expansion ish.
Before the ones that were announced later The Horde, the
zandalari were included the initial reveal yet but the
magazine agar Orcs are now coming ahead of them.
So I can understand how that might make some people feel a
little bit bad unless they were fans of the Mac are Orcs, you're
right. I thought that the I thought the
humans were now at BlizzCon but no you're right.
It was it was the Dark Iron Dwarves.
Yeah. So interesting.
It's just blizzard showing us what they've got in the works,
not necessarily what's coming, the exactly they want to share
the excitement, right? And if we get too upset about it
then they start closing up. So I'm not going to I'm not
going to give him too much Flack for this.
Yeah and no and I haven't said anything.
I didn't, you know at Warcraft devs Gerard where my turtles.
But yeah, I am definitely a little bit disappointed about
the timing of the zandalari. But you know, one thing that I
have have noticed with the Allied races is, We have been
unlocking them as it makes sense in the story so far.
You could say that come on Dark, Iron Dwarves and the Orcs have
been in the game for ever. Why don't we have access to
them? But at least with the four that
are available right now it feels like good pacing and timing.
And you know like we've just finished helping them with all
their problems and working with the you know the high mountain.
Aaron and all the rest of it. Like, it feels good, timing
wise. So I'm sure when we get the
zandalari, it's gonna feel good, timing wise.
I'm just upset that I couldn't, you know, grind my rep with that
faction right off the start, and then start my new race.
So, but I'm sure that as soon as it's available, it's going to
feel good. And I'm going to be excited
about it. So, I will be doing a troll,
just not when I thought. They also gave us more
information about war fronts. So I keep getting War fronts and
Island Expeditions confused but we're friends are the PVE
content. The the PVE only content whereas
the island Expeditions can be either PVE or PVP.
So we're friends are only PVE and it's the competition between
factions for strategic location. So have they actually come out
and said where these strategic locations are going to exist
They have said one and one has been data mind.
Oh okay. So, the one that they have
talked about is actually the Hinterlands where they will be
fighting to take over that location.
What it is, is that It's kind of reminiscent of winter grass
where one side attacks and one side defense.
That's what it sounds like. So then the controlling faction
has access to like World bosses and stuff and then the other
faction like your there's going to be a time where the areas in
conflict and then it's going to be controlled by one or the
other depending on who wins the conflict, right?
That's what as soon as I read this, I was like, oh my God,
this sounds like wintergrasp. And I'm one of the people who I
love PVP, but people always say, like, oh, Oh Lich King was like
the height of PVP and wintergrasp was so great and I
never got to experience that. So I'm so excited that even
though it's not a PVE piece there, PVP piece of content, it
still has that feel to it. So I'm excited to experience
these War friends. I think they're going to be so
cool. And so your lands.
I'm just I just want to verify looking for a map so that I
don't get this totally wrong but this is over in eastern
kingdoms, right? And this is like, you know what?
I did miss misspoke there. It's not Hinterlands.
It's the rathi, highlands one's own South 01, some sotho that's
interesting because I was going to say, if it's Hinterlands like
this is the kind of area that leads up to the blood elf.
Ettore and like ghost lands and stuff.
So I guess well, there's still Western plaguelands because of
what I was thinking is like, oh, were they going to put a war
front between like The Last Stand of The Horde on the
Eastern kingdoms, which is the blood elf territory and then do
the same somehow over on kalimdor with like the the night
owls or I think the draenei are still over there, right?
The drain are still over there. We haven't seen anything around
that area. Well, one because his smile and
it's very isolated. Yes.
But what we're seeing for the one that's in calendar that has
been data mind is that it looks to be Southern Barrens.
So interesting. So that would be where I guess
now that there's a crater, it's not much of an alliance
stronghold, but you soon for Dana But there was a strong push
in the cataclysm where they actually hit the wall off
malgor, right? And there was a higher entire
big conflict and Flashpoint in that area, and this seems like a
natural expansion of that. Hmm.
What we're seeing though is that it's not going to be as
competitive, like, will The Horde be able to retain control,
or will the alliance be able to retain control?
It seems almost guaranteed that the attacking team will win and
they're doing this because they don't want one faction on any
particular area or group of Realms to control the control
the area. For prolonged period of time.
Mmm, I guess I mean that makes sense from a like gameplay
mechanic perspective although not quite as much from a like
War perspective. Generally The Defenders are
favored over the attackers but Yeah, I can see like them, not
wanting that area and those resources and whatever goes
along with controlling the war front, to be to dominated On Any
Given server at any given time. I wonder.
Are they server specific? Or are they like
region-specific? Like we saw the Mage Tower in
the broken Shore and like everything you were contributing
to that. It seems to be region-specific.
They, again, all this is in flux, they say region specific.
So that in North America, Alliance will hold it for that
period. And then horde will hold it.
I think that's the wrong step. I honestly think that if they
actually broke it down to server, they could allow
actually allow a team to successfully defend because I
could just pop Realms and then find it when I need it but I
guess they I just really want it to be a cohesive, like,
everybody put your effort into into it and it actually means
something. But the fact that it seems
almost guaranteed that it's going to switch hands.
Sort of takes away from that. Yeah.
And I think that it's they're going to have to look at that
balance because if it really feels like the Defenders can't
defend, no matter what they do, then the only one that's ever
going to matter is going to be the first one, right?
Because then it's just going to flip back and forth all the
time. So I hope that There is a way
for the Defenders to win and that it does feel balanced and
you know, every once in a while, we might get, you know, to
Alliance controlled periods of time in a row, you know.
I don't want it to just switch back and forth because then,
that ruins the whole that whole part of the game.
Right? Exactly.
But like, I again, I think that's why they're doing as a
PVE content, right? The players always going to be
attackers, right? The NPCs will always be there.
Offenders. So who cares if you roll over
the NPC's, they're not going to care about it.
Yeah, and the way it works is that whatever action controls
it, there are the active faction, they get the benefits
for that period of time, and they are saying that each
faction should control a war front for about a week or so.
So, even if you have to like, go away for a weekend, you should
still be able to get, get whatever Advantage out of it in
a short period of time. Yes, and not worry about it
because exactly, that was one of the When they brought in these
micro holidays that they were saying that, you know, like we
have all these ideas, we want to do them, we want these events
last for 24 to 48 hours but then if you missed them like we can't
tie big rewards to them because if you miss them, it feels
really bad. But then it's like, yeah but now
there's no reason for me to go do them.
So I feel like they've learned a bit of a lesson from those micro
holidays. And now they're just like, okay,
well if we're going to tie strategic resources to this, we
don't want it flipping back and forth every couple days.
We want people to have to have like a whole week so that if you
can only play on Thursdays, then you're guaranteed to still have
access to your War front. So I think it's a, I think, a
week-long is a good amount of time or for war fronts to be
active in one faction. So I'm excited about it.
I think I'm a little bit more excited about the island
Expeditions just because of the PVP aspect to it.
But either way, I think both of these are going to be really
interesting mechanics that they're putting into the game on
top of everything else that we already do.
Leveling, and Dungeons and raids everything.
So, the game just seems to be getting bigger and bigger
bigger. I hope that I can keep track of
everything I have to do. Yeah, it looks like they are
just continuously expanding the scope, but I also like that the
rewards seem to be competitive and not completionist.
So if you don't like Mythic pluses, you didn't have to step
into Mythic pluses. If you find that war fronts, are
your jam and you really want to do those there there.
Are but they're not necessary to get the top best gear.
Yeah, it seemed to that there were I think putting gear into
World bus was kind of the first step towards this in Legion.
And I really like that that you could get fairly well, geared
doing World quest and you had the option of just doing a whole
bunch of World Class by yourself, or going in and doing
Dungeons and running Mythic buses and stuff.
And then, as you get to the higher Mythic pluses, you can
kind of Mythic Plus or Raid. Either way and you'll get the
same sort of gear. So I did like the options that
they seem to give us because like I like I've mentioned a
bazillion times on the show. I am not a fan of Mythic buses,
so the fact that I didn't have to do them but I'm still, I
mean, I might be what 10 gear points behind you?
That makes me feel pretty good. Well, I don't think you're that
far behind me but like, yeah, there are different options.
The one thing that I didn't like about world quests and it's not
Necessarily that it was world-class it was that they
were the entire thing with tied in forging where a world-class
could become the best said, but that's a topic for another day.
Yes, we have a lot to cover and tighten forging is definitely is
a conversation that should be had at some point.
So we did get some more news, this didn't come at Pax, is
actually came a couple days before and it was just a very
very brief blog post over at World of Warcraft.
I'm telling us that the remote auction house was closing.
There wasn't really much reasoning given its, they just
kind of said that, they're closing it as of April 18th.
So the mobile app and the auction house on the main site
are no longer going to be available, but the API is
intact. So any Community sites and
add-ons that make use of the auction house are going to be
unaffected. So I don't know why they did
this. I love the remote auction house.
I think having a nap I mean They did break it for a little while,
but having an app to browse the auction house, I used to love
doing that. I don't know why they're doing
this. Well, here's the thing Joss
nobody knows why they're doing this and you were talking
earlier, how you didn't send a like message off to the wow,
devs to be like, what the hell was going on with these Allied
races? I sent a direct message to the
wild as being like, what's going on with the road auction houses?
What's the reasoning behind us? I know they get a bunch of
tweets that I'm not expecting, exact answer, but I was also
looking rude, a blog post checking Reddit threads.
Like I spent more time on this little piece of news, then the
rest of the news, right? Because they didn't give any
reason behind it and then they put out this news in the
evening, right before packs comes and gives us all this
great stuff. And I look at that and I go it.
Like a PR thing to bury a bit of unpopular news.
Yeah. And and like you say, I really
don't understand why they would do this.
I liked using the mobile app. I mean there and again, I'm not
a developer so I don't know all the ins and outs, but if the API
is still going to be available to the community, so that sites
and add-ons still work, that means like, are they going to
continue updating the API or like if they're if they're not
going to change anything? What's the harm in just leaving
it? As it is, you know what I mean?
Like, so either, if the API is never going to change, never
going to get updated, then all of these Community sites and
add-ons eventually might stop working.
And if that's the case, why not just leave the mobile app
available and then eventually it'll just like die on its own
like, do you know what I mean? Like, why take the app down?
But keep the API open if it's not going to work eventually.
Well, the remote, the remote auction house is separate from
the from the API, the API allows the hooks that the community
sites can draw information. But remotely, they can't affect
in-game add-ons or installed on your client and affect things or
automate processes in game. So that's a separate level.
Then the road auction house which is the website, right?
And the, the app it was like, it's both the, the website and
the app, right? Right?
And what I don't understand about this is, I know the major
rumor out there is that oh you know what, they're going to
bring out an app to go along with a BFA, that'll include the
for the war campaign and the auction house and that's fine if
they wanted to announce that. But there is no sign of that.
And that would soften this news. Yeah.
And which makes it really great like if they're saying usually
if that What was going to happen?
They would say this is coming August 14th with the launch of
battle for Azeroth. We need to close down the remote
Auction House app so that we can work on the new one or something
like it. We need to shut down.
Those the free up the resources, or the servers or the whatever
is, I don't know again. Not a developer, don't know how
all this stuff works on the back end.
But you know like saying they have to take something away in
order to give us something in a couple of months.
I I feel like is a lot more reasonable than just saying.
Now we're just going to take this way.
Okay, thanks. Bye facts.
Don't pay attention to the bad news, just packs.
Yay. So yeah, I don't know why they
did this. No one knows why they did this.
Hopefully, we get some more information and although, if we
don't have any more information while it's still like, hot news
then I don't think that they're ever going to give us more
information. It's just one more tool.
That seems to be disappearing. We do have the legion companion
app, so I don't know if that's going to be.
Updated for battle for Azeroth but that never had anything.
That was just the map to show you like World quest and and to
send your dudes out on missions and things like that that never
had any impact on like it never involved the auction house or
anything else. So and also didn't have like
Armory information stored in it. So I think right now I have like
my authenticator the legion companion app and the WoW armory
which was the mobile auction house so that I have three apps
on my phone too. To do.
Wow. Stuff.
Like maybe they're gonna smoosh it all together but you're
right. I feel like the smoosh it all
together announcement would have been included with this if that
was going to happen, if I have to have a legion app and then
also a battle for Azeroth app, I'm God.
It's so annoying. Yeah, I'm expecting the legion
app to get shut down eventually. It does seems weird, especially
if the Legion class Hall, orders are still Generate or resources
or any kind of gold, it just seems like that's the thing that
shouldn't be. Shut down, not their own auction
house but the yeah. But as we keep saying, we
haven't heard anything from blizzard.
So all we have is rumor mongering and wait, gossiping.
Yeah, we had somebody solo a Mythic 15.
What? I can't even five-man a Mythic
15 dungeon so me own LOL has been at this for a long time has
so load. Current raid bosses has been
going at this before their demon Hunters on a death knight and
just says group content. Ha.
And then go to proceed to destroy it.
So this is the first time a Mythic 15.
Us has been soloed. It was a Cathedral of Eternal
Night did it in the time limit where me on has done hierarchies
but not within the time and this was bursting skittish fortified
it was done on the MDI realm so that the key could be
customized, right? And that could make multiple
attempts with the same same key, same settings to actually like
get this done. There's a YouTube video about
this where it is absolutely insane.
All the tricks and stuff that's pulled off just to, like, get
the time done and make these insane pools where you're
pulling entire hallways, I don't.
But again, so you say he did on a Demon Hunter Demon Hunter, it
was a 970 eye level Demon Hunter, a two traits in the
weapon, right? So, actually, not that much
higher than people in our raid. Yeah, because I was just I think
I'm like 950 Beef or fish in terms of item level and I
haven't hit 80 yet. I think I'm on 79 in terms of
traits in the weapon. So yeah, this this isn't too far
off. Although I mean 3 weapon traits,
when it's like 500 billion artifact power to get another
weapon trait right now. But still yeah, so Not that far
off from our current power levels and damn, like, it makes
me feel like such a shit player, like, I can't even get a group
of five together to do a Mythic 15 in time let alone.
Soloing it so good on you there. That's insane.
Yeah, well it's it is a testament to like what people
can do with just raw skill and persistence.
I'm sure this was not like a one shot.
Or like or even good. If you go to the YouTube video
in the description Beyond goes through all of the different
talents and how they switch things up and exactly what they
did to get through all of this. Hmm.
Honestly, this is this is mind-boggling because I'm I
level 964 in my PVP gear and actually at my PVP gear.
I'm 970 and I, I couldn't do this.
I have so hats off. This is an amazing thing.
We have a little bit more Alpha news for you guys this week.
We got a new build Bolden was opened for testing.
So this is another zanda Lars own.
Yay, more troll things. We're actually going to talk a
lot about zandalari today but have you had a chance to
actually poke around? Yes, yes, I have been pushing
through the alpha. A lot.
I am now mostly through this Zone.
Testing testing, various things. Falling through the world again
and again. It is, it is a desolate Zone
because it is Desert filled with sand and everything.
But there's really a beauty about it, as well.
Unlike zones like tenaris, right, there are like sweeping
Dunes that like actually have elevation that.
You climb up one, Dune, and you look out into the expanse and
you can see like a voices in the background.
So, this is a really beautifully crafted.
Acted Zone and it's filled with like, a lot of well, races at
people are clamoring over the Seth, the Seth rack are the
snake people that were shown the Volterra at that.
Everybody's been going crazy about are those the little fox
people. Those are the fox people and
they come into play in this Zone quite early.
And then this is where the exiled criminals of the
zandalari are, are sent to live out the rest.
Saturday's interesting. I'm looking forward to getting
in and playing some like and I'm so on the fence when it comes to
Alpha because I'm just like do I want these like zones and images
and story bits kind of spoiled for me?
Like do I want to get in there and try it or do I want to be
surprised? And yeah I'm always on the fence
and it comes to Alpha because like I want to try out my class
and I want to try out other classes to figure out if I
should be leveling something right now, if things feel really
different, but I'm like, I also don't want spoilers too much.
So what do I do here? Well, the level cap has been
raised to 120 now. So you can hit max level, but if
you want to test out your character and not or rather
template character, because you can't, because you can't get in
your transfer over your character yet.
Yeah, that's open up later. You can go to the training
dummies when you first spawn and to see how it feels without
ruining any of the story. You'll see like a little bit of
the meat major city, but without talking to people, you're not
going to ruin anything so that's a possibility.
Once they unlock the 120 template, you can see how these
things are playing at the end game.
But for me, my first playthrough, I am just pushing
to get to max level so that I can hit end game.
That's where I live. I live at the end game.
Yeah, and I don't actually get to enjoy the story as much until
I'm playing through an alt and I'm like okay what was actually
happening here instead of just like where does this gold Arrow
go? Okay let me go kill the guys
over there and then come back. So I don't care about the story
spoilers like this gets me a little early preview and I
really do like giving the feedback and seeing how things
change there are there are now elements in the story that were
there that No longer there, right?
And it's all it's really interesting for me, one of the
big things that they are now testing.
System, wise is the heart of Azeroth and the Azurite gear.
This was really poorly implemented.
There's one piece of gear that you get when you start a new new
tune and so chest piece, and it has the most basic placeholder
UI. There are four tiers of Azurite
Powers which are much like the traits that you would choose on
your your artifact weapon except that they don't Branch together.
You just have Tier 1 which has four different choices.
Or in the case of demon Hunters it would have three and four,
Druids, it would have five because it is All the different
classes, right? Each spec spec has a one that's
sort of tailored for them. And then there's one more that
sort of a general upgrade on the first tier Okay, go down.
Yeah. And then from there, there's
like, found totally way complicated or anything.
Once you see it, it doesn't seem complicated.
In fact, it seems like on the initial piece of gear.
There's not really much of a choice.
You pick the one that is good for your, your spec or you.
Pick the generally good one and that's it.
There's a bunch that are like kind of spec specific.
So, if you want to take, In the case of Druid, like a tank role,
versus the healing role versus a DPS role, or like stamina boost
or something, right? That's sort of the thing.
And in the case of some classes, it will modify a spell that
multiple specs use, but obviously one speckle favorite
more than another. Okay, Though there is a bit of
choice there but not really, you should just go for the one that
is optimized for your spec or you go for the generally, good
one. And then As a tears go down.
There are not specific to your spec.
There's just less choices but they gives you something.
Like when you do damage you also heal, right?
It just has like a large amount of let you leech attached to it
and then the final tier has a single upgrade, right?
Which will increase the item level of the peace right now?
Write the piece that's shown now that we've had a lot more
explanation. The piece that shown is really
just leveling gear, it's something that you're going to
replace. It's not something that is
supposed to be representative of what you're going to get
endgame. And so just think of it as like
a questing green even though it's a blue piece, just think of
it as a questing green, that's like who this is good and then
two or one zone down there down, you're going to replace it with
something else, right? Well that's kind of what they
were talking about because you basically go from having your
legendary weapon to having a legendary neckpiece at that.
Then you Empower to empower the gear around it or at least
that's kind of how it was explained.
So the as a right gear pieces which are what your Helm chest
and legs. I think our we're never meant to
be hung onto the same way that you hung onto your legendary
weapon. Like they were supposed to be
constantly replaced. So I'm wondering when you like
so you have your legendary weapon that you're leveling up
or sorry your legendary neck piece that you're leveling up.
When you replace your Azurite year, does your gear, just like
look at the level of your weapon and go, okay, you've unlocked to
tears so far. So you get to choose Tier 1 and
tier 2 right away. Exactly.
So like each of the tears will have a level attached to it.
The piece that's on the alpha right now as its first here at
Azurite level 1 then, as Right level for is the next here.
Then 7 is next here than 10 is next here.
As you level up your heart of Azeroth right it'll go from
level one to like level 20, if you pick up another piece of
gear and it steers are 1 4 7 and 10, you have already unlocked
and have the ability to choose some each of those tears, one of
the powers. So, as you switch out, you can
insulate, customize that. So then when you get into, sorry
it would stand to reason then which might be the point you're
about to make. So if I cut you off from All
right, but then it would stand to reason that higher item level
gear like more End Game Gear. Its first hear of choices might
potentially not unlock until like 10 or 12, then exactly.
Yeah. When you pick up a higher piece
of gear, its first here might actually start at 10, right?
So if you get it earlier, you may only be able to unlock the
first here or if you're getting something from a raid that might
require item level, sorry? Right.
That's right. Level 50, right?
Where the slow level gear, doesn't require anything like
that. The three pieces of gear are the
helm, the chest and shoulders shoulders.
I don't know why I thought it was pants but that.
Yeah, so that I mean it does become kind of interesting
because then it's like, okay well I have a piece of gear that
might be a lower level but I have all four traits unlocked
versus a higher piece of gear with only one trade unlocked and
then you have to actually make the decision.
Like which one is going to be better.
Like so it's nice that there are those levels of necessarily want
to say customization, but at least it seems like there's
decisions to be made. It's not necessarily just
straight up like, oh, okay. Item level upgrade swap it out.
Yo, exactly. There are a number of
interesting things, one none of the, as right gear that is on
the alpha right now. Seems to have any secondary to
secondary bonuses. So that is a In a weird sort of
thing. The other thing is that they
haven't told us exactly how we're going to change the
powers. They said that there will be a
way but they don't know how often they want us to be able to
change those Powers. So if it is restrictive, you're
looking at carrying multiple sets of gear or Depending on how
your been maxing, your definitely want to have multiple
sets of gear for multiple specs since the ability seem to be
very spec focused. But then there may also be that
you want to have multiple gear for multiple types of fight
layouts where, hey, this is an AOE fight.
So I want this talent and I need to go back to town to switch it.
So I just want a second piece of gear, so I can switch it
quickly, which it will be interesting to see how easy they
make this. Because I know that was one
thing that they talked about, even just this like, changing
talents and stuff and being able to do things away from town,
they didn't want people to feel that they Had to constantly be
going back to town between fights and things in stuff like
raised. So that's something that kind of
done away with. I don't necessarily know about a
Warlords of Draenor, but it feels like in Legion especially
even just with the tomes that I don't even have to go to
arrested, XP area to change my talent.
So it seems like they didn't want me to go back to town at
all. And now they might be sending us
back to town more often. So it just it'll be interesting
to see how this is actually. Implemented because again, this
is still Alpha. This is still like early early.
So even though we've got a launch date of August, April is
still early. So none of this stuff is final,
I'm sure so yeah again, just get in there.
Get testing and give them your feedback because the more
feedback we give the more choices that they're going to
make that are going to be in line with what the community
thinks. Oh yeah I look forward to seeing
how all this works but it sounds interesting at least and I'm
glad that like I don't know. I hope it's not quite as crazy
as the AP AKA thing was in Legion.
I mean, I'm at the point now where like I'm getting 19
billion artifact power for doing things.
And I'm just like these numbers just don't even make sense
anymore. Like it seemed to get out of
control very quickly. So I hope they learned some
lessons from that and the Heart of Azeroth ends up being a
little bit different, but we'll see, we'll see.
Lol, they have settled to do. They have said that the numbers
will not get as crazy. So they have at least learned
that lesson, there is going to be a knowledge like system where
it will allow for catch-up and going forward.
It looks like they are learning a lot of lessons.
This is something that is a replacement, not only for the
artifact weapons but also the legendary.
So we are going to see some really kind of cool effects on
like higher-end gear. So I don't look at this and
freak out like men. People had initially done when
they saw this piece of gear, I just realize that this is just
the first piece of gear that you get.
And it really is just a piece of your leveling that you are going
to replace. And the real power is going to
come from the raid, as right gear, the high-level War fronts
and Island Expeditions. That's where it's going to have
the traits that really make sense.
And the fact that they are tailored and they're not random
traits and they are going to be something that is It is tailored
to where you get it from means that you are going to get gear.
That's like all about Mobility or CC and a Battleground.
Where if you're doing like high-level dungeon content,
you're going to get something that is more focused on going
through. Dungeons and raids are going to
be something that's more focused about going through rates and
that's what's going to make your ass right here special.
I like that. So then you can actually like
Target pieces of gear to so you can say like oh man I need some
Survivor survivability stuff. I should go, you know do some
more rating and get some That way or like, maybe I need to
increase my damage. Well, you know, dungeons is
where you get high damage gear like stuff like that, to, you
know, be able to Target the parts where your character is
lacking. So, I like that a lot.
That's really cool gearing strategy.
So, again, early, Alpha and so things are subject to change,
but I like the idea of the Azurite gear as it stands, as
it's been explained. Anyways, so I look forward to
seeing what they do with that going forward.
That brings us to our lure section this week.
We are covering the Zandalari trolls were continuing on from
our talk about vol'jin. And since the Sandy Lori are
going to be playing a large role in battle for Azeroth as well as
becoming a playable race. We are taking listeners Time,
Lord and Johan suggestion to cover the zandalari.
So let's talk about who they are and how they went from an enemy
to a potential ally. So early on the zandalari
Empire, it is the longest lasting Empire in Azeroth
existing for over sixteen Thousand Years.
One of the earliest known to troll tribes and the earliest
known breed of troll. So, in the early days, the
zandalari lived on a mountain range in southern kalimdor,
alongside many of the wild Gods, whom they called the Lowell.
We talked a lot about the low last week, with, with all of
vol'jin story. The trolls named the mountain
range. Sandal are many of trolls would
come to live there, but the zandalari themselves took the
residents in the highest peaks of the mountains.
He had lots and lots of other smaller tribes of trolls who
kind of settled on the kind of sides and in the shadow of the
mountain but the zandalari are they were like, hey we want to,
we want to be above everybody else.
So they took all the high peaks, they built shrines and
eventually all those shrines kind of got bigger and bigger to
the point that they grew. Together and became the Temple
City of Zoll bizarre. Yes.
And in these days, the trolls that did not Gather in the great
city were led by The Shadowhunters over time as the
troll. Civilization, grew and more and
more trolls gravitated towards the temple cities, the role of
The Shadowhunters lessened, but they were still well respected.
Troll Society was built on a caste system which eventually
evolved into their own people. Daniel are a word acai sorry
zandalari desired knowledge above everyone else.
And though they were rebellious and desired Conquest, they
formed the strongest core of the tribes, the trolls left Zenda
free Society to fund, other tribes and never returned to his
Handler. Two tribes grew out of the
zandalari, Exodus. We were constantly fighting each
other for territory and for power, the Armani Forest trolls
and the gurubashi jungle trolls. A third tribe, the the current,
sorry, your akari ice trolls, coexisted with them as they had
no thirst for power. The zandalari became priests
like cast for all trolls preserving troll history and
attempting to further. All troll interest regardless of
tribe, they had the respect of all tribes, but did not roll
over anyone but themselves. Right, so now we've got this
kind of society that was built out of the One zandalari Tribe,
but kind of splintered over time with the zandalari forming, this
like knowledge hunting, sort of historian roll.
Let's say, so there was one place above all else.
That was forbidden to the trolls by their witch doctors and their
priests, it was a small mound of black and stone at the base of
the zandalari mountain range. The lowest had warned the
mystics against disturbing these stones but of course, eventually
curiosity got the better of some of the trolls.
These rebellious trolls bind the stone to discover that it wasn't
stone at all, but the hide of a monstrous creature.
They believed to be a powerful lower.
These trolls performed her, horrifying rituals, including
live sacrifices in order to awaken the creature awakened.
The cathodic. See General.
And I will not pronounce this right?
It ticks ticks, I think. Yes.
Okay. So the general critics emerged
from his sleep and slotted all those who had awakened in the
lower had buried. Catholics long ago as he fled
from the battle against the keeper tear.
Now, fully awake kicks roused, the a Creator who lived
underground to rage war against the zandalari in the name of the
old gods. This threat was like nothing.
The trolls had ever faced, many smaller tribes fell to the occur
before the zandalari United all tribes into a single Force,
which was called the Empire of zul with the aid of the other
tribes, and the low of the zandalari were able to whittle
down the occurs numbers and even wounded kathak, the akir fled.
But the trolls soon learned that the insectoids needed to be
wiped out completely because if any managed to escape
underground, they would establish a new colony and renew
their attack. The tribes spread across the
continent of kalimdor, hunting down all these insects
establishing strongholds, to exterminate the akir, and then
claimed the land for themselves. The akir corrupted, the Titan
Force everywhere. They went sending powerful
allies, like, the tol'vir and the Abu sent against their
enemies. Finally, the Amani were able to
defeat Catholics in a battle that cost them nearly their
entire tribe. The money would become Legends
among the other trolls establishing the city of zolomon
as their new home. After centuries of brutal War,
without a common enemy. The Troll factions grew apart,
though. The zandalari remained in their
role as the spiritual center of the patrols across the continent
and we should mention when we're talking about kalimdor.
Remember this is all before the shatter are the Sun during the
shattering. I can't remember which one they
both start with s and they sound so familiar and they sound so I
always get them confused but this is what it was when it was
the first supercontinent exactly.
This kalimdor was the first original continent on Azeroth
before the night elves, blew everything up.
So this is before there was a kalimdor in eastern kingdoms and
all the islands in between. So this is our one big super
continent of kalimdor. So after the war was over the
zandalari, approached Lee Shen, who you guys might, remember if
you played through Mists of Pandaria, Alicia and was the
leader of the mogu, in the vale of Of Eternal blossoms which was
south of the troll Nation, Zulu, Zulu, throw the high priest has
proposed a trade, the Magoo's Arcane knowledge for the
zandalari, his knowledge of the world beyond the vale of Eternal
blossoms, both Empires were strong and knew.
If they went to war, the Survivor would be significantly
weaker and likely overtaken by lesser Powers.
So, the mogu decided to stand with the zandalari to become
Unstoppable. The Empire's would be dealt a
near fatal blow when late And went after the forge of
origination in Oldham accompanied by his troll allies,
he laid Siege to the, tol'vir who guarded the forge, who were
furious at him for betraying keeper raw.
Instead of letting the forge fall into his hands.
The Tovar used to forge to purge Oldham of all life, killing
latian and a zandalari leadership.
Wolf. Both Empires were left with
massive power vacuums and append.
Aryan rebelled in a few centuries later.
The Mogul would then left overthrown.
After much debate, the zandalari decided to attack the Pandaren
in order to secure the land that had been promised to them by the
moku, as they did not believe the Pandaren would honor the
deals made by their former Masters.
The Pandaren forces, eventually, repelled the zandalari by taming
Cloud serpents and using them to defend.
What was now? Pandaria, the zandalari
retreated, back in, shame to their mountains.
And this kind of was the beginning of the end of the
zandalari as a A huge world power because as you're going to
see over the next, you Millennium, the zandalari they
get beat down and have to retreat in shame.
A lot. It's quite a theme with them.
So it really shapes their history in the choices they
make. And it all goes back to this
kind of first defeat against first, the the tol'vir up in
Oldham and then the ensuing, Attempted of invasion of
Pandaria. So, the trolls continue to
control much of the continent of kalimdor.
But over time, a new race actually started to evolve due
to their proximity to The Well of Eternity, trolls began to
grow sleeker and adopted New Traditions as they evolved.
These became the night elves who were highly intelligent and able
to harness the mystical powers of the world and began to build
their own Empire independent of their zandalari.
Ancestors, the empire, Herzl was rapidly equipped by the kaltura
Empire. And in the ensuing, Golden Age.
The Caldor I spread across the continent driving trolls from
their territories, under the rule of Queen azshara who I'm
sure you guys are familiar with these two empires came into
direct conflict. Unable to resist the power of
the night, Elven sorcery, the empire, zul fell before the
Caldor. I queen azshara, had no interest
in controlling is Angela. And so, in return for remaining
outside of kaldor, I territory and Accord was And the zandalari
were permitted to remain in their mountains.
And so the terms of surrender were humiliating to the trolls,
they're used to being the Congress but they had pretty
much been pushed back into just the core of their empire and
they had no choice to. But to agree.
These events would Foster resentment towards the elves
that the trolls would display even to the present day.
When the Great Sun during happened, the zandalari use
magic to protect their realm are merging to find that their realm
had now, become an island nation separate from the rest of the
world. As a result, they turn to
mastering the Seas as a way of life.
While exploring, the sees the zandalari discovered the island
of Kazan and A Primitive goblins that lived there.
They also discovered a rare resource, had your might a force
and force the Goblins to mine it for them.
For thousands of years, the Goblins remain too weak to
resist and suffered under the zandalari rule while they were
exploring the Seas, they also explored into the Eastern
Kingdom, and they found their Imani Brothers at war with the
High Elves of helpful off. The zandalari named Jinta the
leader of the Amani to stop the infighting who led the trolls,
alongside the powerful, low against the elves though winning
for a while, the trolls were eventually stopped by an
alliance of Elves and the human Kingdom of arathor Jinta along
with many other Imani were massacred in a firestorm cast by
the first ever. Human Mages, which caused the
trolls to repeat Retreat. Back to zandalari again.
In shame those soon, Whispers and Larry of The Growing Power
of the Gara Gara basheer Empire in the name, and the name of
their loja care, This was given, sorry, this gave the zandalari
hope of reclaiming their once, great Empire.
The zandalari investigated discovered that his hair was
actually hit here at the whole. The soulflayer, Who demanded
sacrifice in exchange for power and who constantly stronger as
the blood was shed in his name. Zandalari travel to
stranglethorn bail the war in the hirabayashi to find the
empire in civil unrest, due to the amount of sacrifices, how
car was demanding. Together with the three fingers
Heretics, with the carrier boshy, that did not follow the
care. The zandalari were able to
defeat the soul Slayer. Sorry, soulflayer big difference
there flaying or slaying big differently.
There's a difference and that was at the cost of the Care,
boshy Empire, even in Victory, the zandalari were defeated The
final blow to the zandalari came in the form of an uprising of
their Goblin slaves. Mining catcha might, for
thousand of years, had awakened, the Goblins dormant intelligence
and for years, they had hid weapons and Technology advances
in the mines from their zandalari overseers, 100 years
before the opening of the dark portal, the Goblins were bailed
completely driving. The zandalari from Kazan with
technology that then Tulare could not even dream of these
goblins were use their Newfound intelligence to warming
themselves. Read it cartels to Vie for the
leadership of the island. And again, you're seeing the the
parallel between these great Empires that had slaves, Rebel,
and take over, and just these Empires that were once great,
just losing face. And it was really interesting
about that is that the zandalari actually thought of themselves
as better than or more than the mogu.
Zandalari didn't actually have to rely on slaves for their
empire to run. They really thought of
themselves as better and look down on the mogu and then they
it just it got to the point that they were like well we don't
have as many people now, you know, we've had all these
different Wars, like we don't have the power, we once did and
then so as their empire began to decline, they had to rely on
slave labor to do all the mining.
So it was really interesting to see the, the kind of All from
grace, that happened to the zandalari over the time, after
the, after the great Sun, during the zandalari, largely kept to
themselves after their Goblin Rebellion.
Until rumors of cars, return reached them troll, priests were
attempting to revive the Fallen low at zul'gurub, a shadow of
their former power. The zandalari were unable to
deal with the threat alone and so contacted the new horde
through the darkspear tribe that we know who they talk to to help
them deal with. Threat after The Horde
successfully defeated a car. His heart was given to the
zandalari to be banished from Azeroth forever and so they
retreated back into themselves as part of their scholarly,
Pursuits travel to North, End to document.
The fall of the takari to The Scourge, they were horrified to
defy, the district re were killing their own lower to gain
the powers in an attempt to fight off the scourge.
The zandalari opposed the sicari but refused to Aid in the fight
against the scourge leaving them to fall in Zoll track.
Not long after a dark prophets all warned the king ra s rustic
on rustic on Of a terrible cataclysm after receiving a
vision of a great armor, Dragon clenching, the world in his
Jaws. And we know who that turned out
to be. Yep.
So, return to the king many times each time with the
Visions, more and more dire, speaking of the fall of the
empire into the sea. If Ice King, drastic on the
unite, the other trolls, tribes, and to abandon their doomed
Homeland, but the king did not believe the prophet and so did
nothing aside from granting Soul.
The use of his golden Fleet, this say, it has sent him away
from sandal are So as we all know, the cataclysm did come and
the island of zandalari split in two with some of the capital
falling into the sea, while the region of Naz mere began to
sink. Zul took the golden Fleet and
sailed the world reaching out to all troll tribes, even those
normally considered lesser trolls by The zandalari Nobles,
the zandalari split into two smaller groups.
Those who attempted to build a neutral empire under zul and
those who stayed behind on sandal are to rebuild.
Under King rostec on those old and his sandal re-return to
Pandaria. When the Mist retreated
attempting to reclaim the territory promised to them
thousands of years, earlier to create a new Homeland in order
to support their efforts and defeat the Pandaren zsalynn, his
followers revived latian there. Once powerful, MoGo a lie.
It was only through the efforts of the alliance and horde, that
The Thunder King was thought the remaining zandalari dispersed
and the dreams of a neutral empire were ended.
Which is when we come basically to modern day and the events at
the start of battle for Azeroth. Zul has returned with his forces
Tuesday and Al are, which is now in the throes of a civil war
between them and the trolls who remained led by Raza Khan.
So this is why we, you know, don't hear too too much about
the zandalari, they're a little bit, I think in vanilla, which
is talking about all the stuff that happened at school grub and
then there's some stuff in Lich King with Azul Drac but the We
actually see the zandalari and fight the zandalari a lot in
Pandaria and these are Zulan his followers so that is why like?
Because I know personally, I was a little bit confused when
they're like, ah, sandal or he's going to be Allied race because
I was like, WTF wasn't, I just trying to kill them in Pandaria.
Why are we suddenly all friends turns out, we're going to be
friends with The Rustic on zandalari.
Not the zul zandalari. So, or well, potentially unless
maybe we're all going to be friends after we resolve the
Civil War. Who knows?
But it's The Rustic on zandalari tribe that we are going to be
approaching, I would assume but that's why well enemy and allies
when it comes to the zandalari and I love that they've been
around, they're literally the oldest Empire.
That's so cool. They are the oldest Empire and
they are the race that originally dominated the world.
They are storied and in so many ways.
What we are finding now is that throughout our travels and
meeting all these different empires.
Not only were they all interconnected, but Zell has
been playing in the background for so many times and now we are
meeting the figure of Zola himself.
Right? Because I don't think we
actually meet him in and area at any point in time.
He's kind of like the puppet master in the background.
I don't think that he had an NPC character.
Even in game That all this will be the first time that he's
making an in-game appearance and he is not going to be the enemy
that we think is at the beginning of the expansion,
we're actually going to be rescuing Soul, interesting.
I can't wait to see how this all plays out.
But yeah, I hope you guys enjoyed our coverage of the
zandalari Empire. I hope that kind of gets you
excited about the Allied race for whenever we actually get.
I know I'm still super excited. I'm even more excited than I was
originally, which I didn't think could happen, but yeah, I'm
going to be starting a zandalari day, one as soon as I can.
That brings us to our community, resources and add-ons section of
the show this week. We thought that since the wrote
Auction House app is actually going away.
That we would tell you guys about some in-game add-ons that
you can use. So this week, we're going to be
talking about tradeskillmaster and then we're probably going to
cover in the coming weeks. We're going to cover a couple of
more kind of auction sites or sorry auction add-ons.
Because the best time to make gold is the start of a new
expansion. So want to make sure you guys
are ready for battle. Azeroth, which is right around
the corner. So tradeskillmaster is an add-on
Suite that is designed to help both casual gold makers and
experienced Auction House goblins.
As they say streamlined their gold making processes, including
everything from crafting things like buying mats to actually
deal finding and creating lists for canceling and creating
auctions. So this add-on, it is
extraordinarily powerful but like a lot of Powerful add-ons
in World of Warcraft. It takes a lot of setting up and
I know I have definitely hit my head against the
tradeskillmaster wall many, many times.
So the one thing that I'm going to talk about is the one thing
that I use and I really like is actually their website, it's not
even the add-on, but basically if you go to
tradeskillmaster.com, then sign up for an account, you can
actually choose your realm and then it will I'll actually give
you a list in dashboard. That tells you what's currently
available in the black market auction house, which I always
forget to go check when I'm in game as well as great deals on
your realm. So it'll give you the Like
average value of the item alongside what it's currently
selling on the auction house for.
So you can go in and you can grab some deals using that
dashboard. And then if you have groups set
up, then it will also show you group deals, but groups is where
it starts to lose me. So, I know Manny.
You've actually you have a little bit of experience with
this add-on, so I'm going to let you take it away when it comes
to talking about the in-game add-on.
Okay? Well, this is why it's Community
Resources. Has and add-ons not just add ons
because TSM covers, not only an add-on for the game, not only a
website, but also a desktop app and they all work in conjunction
to get the most bang out of it when you set up the add-on,
right? It's different modules, you go
through, you can set up various lists where it will
Automatically post things check against where, where things are
selling right now. What the buyouts are and then
adjust your pricing accordingly. It's as you said, it's a very
powerful thing that requires a lot of setup to master, but you
can set up different threshold so if you see an item and it is
currently 25% of its actual market value, it will not
actually post it. Because it doesn't want to rip
you off. It'll say it'll post everything
that is within your threshold to sell, it will post partial
Stacks if you allow it to or it'll only post full stacks and
it'll automatically set that price.
So that you are making a buyout of this much percentage of
market value and a starting bid of this much percentage, right?
So that that's really interesting because I know
that's my I'm always really cautious.
With automating things in add-ons, especially when it
comes to even, like, selling grazed vendors and stuff, which
I know I should be a little bit like less crazy and just like I
mean I never need Gray's. There's literally stuff that's
flagged as junk in Warcraft API so like I should just be like
yeah sell my junk but even that makes me a little nervous
sometimes. So I like the idea of being able
to actually go in and tell it what thresholds I'm comfortable
with even if it's something like I don't want you to post
anything unless it's like 95 percent of market value or
higher, you know, like you could be super crazy about it and make
sure that you're always turning a profit sort of thing.
But yeah, I like that. You can actually set thresholds
for like whether or not it should post it because that
would always be my worried, right?
Is like I spent all this time, farming, all these different
things and then, you know, it gets posted for 10% of its
market value and I'm like, oh, I wish I'd realized that I never
would have posted it. Exactly, and that's where the
app comes involved. The app is just something that
runs in the background and it pulls data from the website.
So it's not pulling in-game resources.
It's running in the background separate from.
Wow, making sure that it knows what things are actually valued
and tell to your app. Okay, this is this is what the
actual market value of something, is without that, this
is actually really great because it's like, as we've been sitting
here recording, I've actually had the desktop app just running
in the background and it's given me notifications like three or
four times, telling me that it's pulled, all the auction values
again from the two Realms that I've told it to follow the place
where I have all my horde characters and then the place I
have my home, my one lone Alliance character So it's
actually really interesting because this is replacing all of
your in-game auction house scanning.
So I know in the other app that I used to use, I had to sit
there and hit the scan button and wait, you know, 15 minutes
for it to actually complete a scan of the full auction house
but if you have the tradeskillmaster desktop app
running, it's just constantly pulling those prices.
So you don't have to sit there and manually scan the auction
house in game anymore, which is Huge time, waster, or Time
Saver, I get the app is a time-saver scanning.
The auction house is a time-waster exact exact and The
beauty of list is that you can set up different thresholds and
and different rules for different lists, so that you can
have all your or and raw materials.
On one list you can have gems and professionally crafted ear
on a separate list. You can have things that are set
up so that hey, I know this is a rare item.
Make sure that this is a separate category from
something. I'm selling every day.
Mmm. Yeah, I really like that.
That's, I see. And this is the thing.
I feel like this add-on is extraordinarily powerful, but I
swear I've gone into those talking to Manny today and it's
like, oh, we need some tips and tricks for using this add-on, I
was like tip number one uninstall because I've tried so
many times to set this up and it is it's daunting.
I would say one thing that I noticed today, when I was
looking at the actual ad on in game, mmmmm is when you hit like
/ TSM, which brings up your ad on settings.
I didn't realize at first that the kind of square pictures at
the top are actually different pages of options.
It took me way too long to figure that out.
So, when it comes to you, I TSM definitely is difficult to use.
It's not user-friendly, like some of the other add-ons are,
it's not flashy, but I feel like that's because it is A powerful
piece of software. So you just kind of have to
learn to navigate it and when it comes to learning how to
navigate tradeskillmaster, there are a lot of different resources
so we have a link in the show notes to a user that Manny has
actually found and used in the past.
So do you want to tell us a little bit about the YouTube
videos? You're recommending.
Yep, there is a YouTuber hazelnutty who does a lot of
videos on usually pets, but in this case, she's done.
A last 101 class. 10 to guide on setting up and using traits, go
manager and its many separate videos.
There is a real quick video that is just your beginner guide.
How do I start, where do I start?
And from there, use different modules on setting up various
things. The number one trick that I say
to everybody is set it up over time, don't try and do
everything at once. Yeah, it is.
It's definitely a daunting task but I think overall in the end
it's going to be worth it. So again, you can find links to
everything at tradeskillmaster.com.
There's also going to be links in our show notes to the YouTube
videos of Manny mentioned, as well as the information on where
to get the add-on and some of their support.
Because there are on top of the, the guys from hazelnutty that
Manny just mentioned. There are quite a lot of guides
that are actually listed under the The official
tradeskillmaster.com support page and there's everything from
there are some video guides. There's also some written
guides. There's forums there's all kinds
of information at tradeskillmaster.com and they
also have a new version coming out tradeskillmaster for right
now we're in tradeskillmaster 3. So 4 is coming out.
Soon TM, probably around battle for Azeroth.
I would assume. But I believe it's in.
Sorry, I am crossing my fingers for that the stuff in for looks
a lot more streamlined. So, less headache for you and
I'm sure it like the other ago. One of the thing that we didn't
talk about there are ways. Once you've kind of started your
setup, there are ways to actually import other users
lists and, and settings and stuff.
So, that's another thing that you can actually look for when
you're using tradeskillmaster is using The actual import settings
to kind of have a jumping off point because many, you said,
you can actually edit things that you import within the
add-on. Yeah, once you've imported it,
you can then go through and adjust the, the various things
as you need to. One other thing to look at is
that you are when you are importing stuff, that you are
looking at how long they're posting things.
And And different things like that, because before you post
anything, you do want to know how it affects your realm.
Certain Realms are have very robust Auction House, the market
and things go quickly in certain categories.
Other Realms are much slower, so make sure that you are posting,
what's right for your realm, not just blindly following an
import, right? I feel like Earthen ring might
be one of the ones that doesn't have the healthiest economy.
Earthen ring actually has a pretty good economy having
switched over there at the beginning of the year.
There are some things that are crazy over an Earthen ring.
People seem to love their pets but and transmog is another hot
thing. But yeah, that is the stuff that
will differ from round to round. You might have people who are
crazy about gems and stuff on a certain realm, you might have
people who are crazy about transmog on another Realm.
If you play the auction house you might start recognizing
names on the auction house of people that you just go, you
know what, I'm not going to post while they're going and that's
all this stuff that as you start to play the auction house,
you'll learn. Well, it is, it's basically like
its own little game within the game.
So, I mean, if you guys have any interest whatsoever in learning
about how to play the auction house game, then yeah, again
tradeskillmaster.com. There's lots of support and lots
of guides on how to not only use.
Like there's basically a lot of guess, gold makers and auction
house gurus who have done guides on tradeskillmaster.
So if you go and check out the guys for tradeskillmaster you're
likely to find a lot of these gold making personalities and
you're going to pick up a lot of just general tips and tricks for
playing the auction house. So that is our first ad on
Resort. While community resource I guess
is a better name because it has so many different parts to it
but our first Auction House community resource so
tradeskillmaster I guess check back next week when we'll be
talking about probably Auctioneer or possibly
oxygenator one of the two because those are ones I've used
in the past. So I am looking forward to
actually getting in and setting up tradeskillmaster because I do
think it's really powerful but you need to set aside time for
sure. This is this is not a jump in
and try to figure it out yourself type of an add-on.
That brings us to our email section this week.
We got an email to Faz podcast at gmail.com from Zhu.
Zhu who says I'm an avid transmog Enthusiast.
My favorite thing to do is transmog, my characters to look
like other classes. My problem is I'm having a hard
time tracking tier look alike and recolor sets and finding out
what pieces? I'm missing the in-game
collection tab doesn't help I've tried looking for add-ons, but
they only seem to help with the bat classes set.
I'm at a loss. I was wondering if you to or the
listeners. Any help for me, love the show.
So my recommendation Zuzu are, I've used in the past Margot,
which I think is kind of like the go-to transmog add-on.
I was about to say app, but I was like, that's the wrong word
add-on. We also talked last week about
all the things which does have an element of transmog there.
But if you're looking for an actual viewer, all the things I
don't think has a gear viewer. MOG it definitely does though
you can also go to Wowhead because Wowhead.com transmog,
there is a ton of tools over there including information
about like which pieces have the same appearance as well as
there's the model viewer. There's, you know, recolors like
all that kind of information that you're looking for.
Wow. Head actually has a pretty big
transmog database. Now Manny, do you have any tips
or tricks for looking for transmog?
Things? There was a sight.
I think it was like, Warcraft role-playing.com or something
like that, and that did have a lot of transmog, but I think
that's shut down. Now, I don't know.
That's like, honestly, Wowhead has done such a great job, but
there are even YouTube videos where they go.
Like, these are some great trans mogs and here's where you can
find stuff. You can look through almost
anywhere to, to find it. And I'm Not going to knock the
in-game app, rather the in-game menus, because it now shows, not
only, hey, this is the set and this is where you can get pieces
of the set. You can look up individual items
and find like three different versions of it.
In the just normal. Warcraft UI, a nice little
thing. I find the collection tab,
you're right. It doesn't really help because
with the collection tab shows you are the like The set.
So the stuff from rating, the stuff from PvP, like the things
that are an actual full set, but I do find if I go talk to the
transmog, guide to go, like, change my gear, I find that is a
lot more robust because you can actually like see the things you
haven't collected yet, you can hover over them.
And again, it'll show you all the places you can get it.
And so that will show you the entirety of the potential things
that you can use to transmog onto.
Character. So that's usually how I do my
browsing is I just go talk to the transmog guy and then I
click uncollected and then I go and look at everything.
I don't have yet and see if there's anything I should be
trying for It's I mean you're probably going to have more luck
with Community sites and just Community Forum posts and stuff
when it comes to finding inspiration for transmog.
I guess because that's the one thing.
Like, it is very time consuming to go through the whole, not the
collection tab but the hole Collection of transmog like
potential available transmog pieces, for sure.
And you can actually modify your collection tab to show you stuff
that you have in collected. So that is a possibility.
The Collection tab only shows stuff.
That's in full sets though. Nope, there's the sets and then
there's the individual items. So, like, oh, the top panel game
collection tab in the in-game collection tab.
I realize that I thought I had to go talk to the and smog guy
to see all that stuff. Oh no.
When you're really bored, go ahead and go through that
because it has, he said, it takes a lot of time to go
through all the possible things that you could possibly ever
equip. And, at least that way it's set
to your player and your character when you go through
it, all but Ma get is a really good one.
A lot of people that I know who are really into transmog, use
that. So shout out to Linux, who's
crazy about that stuff. I used to use Margot all the
time before they brought in the legion, can the legion
collection Tab and then I've just been trying to kind of
complete my set. So I haven't been paying as much
attention to transmog so I haven't been enabling Margot but
I know like when they first introduced The Collection tab my
first thought was hmm that looks a whole lot like Margot except
for Margot. Lets you do things like search
by color which you can't do in the collection tab that I know
of. So Margot, is it?
Very powerful and it does have a viewer as well.
And you can like make transmog sets and shopping lists and
stuff like that. So I recommend Margot for sure
if you're going to focus on transmog but if lister's if you
guys have any other suggestions for Zuzu, any cool transmog
sites that you use and YouTubers you follow or any add-ons you
use definitely email them into fast podcast at gmail.com or you
can tweet us. We are at Fez podcast whatever
works for you. As we look forward to hearing
from you, that's going to do it for us this week.
Thank you guys so much for listening to for Azeroth Manny.
Where can folks find you on the internet?
You can find me on Twitter at True Villain many.
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One more shot at I guess to my friends and Valhalla Knights on
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The cliff, when they were talking about this auction house
thinks like, was really upset about this.
I'm glad they were able to talk you down, you can find me on
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So yeah, they're going to be streaming a lot of hearthstone
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Thank you guys so much for listening and we'll see you next
week.