1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,640 Yeah, if we want more tanks and healers, we want that cue to be 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,360 shorter, which I guess the tank probably doesn't care. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,320 But if if we want to invite more people in, we do have to have a 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,880 little bit more grace later in the season to let people learn 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,040 and make that learning a fun experience. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,400 Victory for the Forsaken. For Lauderon. 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,920 For the Karen tour for. Pandaria. 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,480 For calendar to the. Burning region for Gilnaeus or 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:38,520 has not done for the Lich King, for the Sindori, for the 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,560 Alliance, for the. Horde for. 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:48,840 Azeroth Hello and welcome back to another episode of For 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, The true 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,080 video Manny for Jeff. Manny and I am joined today by 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Lex Rance. Hello Lex, how are you and how's 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,840 the World of Warcraft been treating you? 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,320 Hi Manny, I'm good, I'm sleepy. So plot twist of the century is 17 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,720 I am very likely going to be ending this range here as a holy 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,560 priest. So we are our healing informed 19 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,920 us actually during podcast reporting last time. 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,920 So if I seemed slightly distracted, I apologize that he 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,600 had a lot going on in life and realized that he needed to stop 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 playing World of Warcraft effective immediately. 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,760 And we didn't really, we were already kind of low on healing 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,520 and we're talking about what to do with that. 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,520 So we didn't really have anyone in the pipeline to take over. 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,040 And I had just actually the day before because on on Tuesdays I 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,840 play Final Fantasy with my parents and I play a white maid, 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,480 which is basically their holy priest. 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,720 And I was thinking that day, you know, like I kind of miss this a 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,840 little bit. So it felt a little fady, right? 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,480 Like it felt like everything was aligning. 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,840 But I had not touched holy priests since like kind of the 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,040 War Within. And even that was like leveling 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,280 her like 3 levels. Then being like this is dumb. 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:09,919 I'm not going to do 2 characters so I luckily had a boost to get 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,400 her up to 80 and I saved my hotel 6 whole levels. 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,040 So this last week I boosted her to 80I ground her to 9100% was 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,720 time walking dungeons. I do not want to see a single 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,240 legion dungeon for the rest of my life. 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,080 That was insane. And then I spent the last the 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,120 rest of the week getting up to 260, which is what we decided 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,080 was basically our minimum item level. 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,840 So I had a ton of friends who were helping grind me up with 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,520 10s which was amazing about. I am so blown away by how 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,280 generous everyone on the Guild was with helping to carry me. 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,880 I did a ton of delves. I learned that I cannot do prey 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,280 on priest So but I, I I hit it. I hit 260 exactly today. 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,000 And so I, you know, need to use my crafts and everything. 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,880 So hopefully I'll get a couple higher since again, that's 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,280 pretty low because we're on the last two while we're on Bella 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,400 run. So, you know, pretty hard 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,360 content. But yeah, I I'm going to be 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,120 starting Holy Trees probably tomorrow, which is crazy. 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,320 That is a massive swap. Swap. 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,560 Yeah. A lot went down for you that 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:16,320 that is crazy. I feels, I guess you're saying 57 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,640 it's serendipitous that it all kind of came together, but you 58 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:22,640 feel, it feels like you've been really enjoying the Zoom, Zoom. 59 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:28,560 I'm hoping that maybe going into the next tier that you'll that 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,960 you'll have the opportunity to weigh those choices again. 61 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,840 But it's great that you stepped up and did all that work and 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,640 that your team work together to help you with that. 63 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,920 So yeah, there you go. I also hear that you did some 64 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,000 things with your Mythic team and you've got some world rankings 65 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,040 to share with us. Oh yeah, as we all know, my my 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,760 mythic team is is doing very well. 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:01,880 I Oh my God, where is it? Oh yes, my week in Warcraft 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,120 included killing Lura and getting world ranking 480 and NA 69 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,560 1:30. And I'm just saying if I could 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,840 have gotten 20 world ranking like 20 more guilds a little 71 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,440 faster, we've got a much better number. 72 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,440 But apparently that's what I got so. 73 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,079 There you go. All right, well, congratulations 74 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:25,400 to you and and your team. What's the name of what's your 75 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,040 name of your Guild again? I'm just putting you on the spot 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,560 so bad. Euphoric. 77 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Congratulations to Euphoric. My team that I play with and 78 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,800 mythic, right? There you go. 79 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,960 There you go. And congratulations to Sean. 80 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,960 That is Sean's update. He did really well. 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,320 Congratulations there. So because we're giving Sean's 82 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,920 update, yes, Sean is not with us this week. 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,160 He is racing off to see loved ones and we we wish him well. 84 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,520 So you'll see him back next week. 85 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:07,600 As for me, I've continued doing the push for gold. 86 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,120 I've continued doing various other things that I was like, 87 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,200 oh, you know, find the joy and all of that. 88 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:19,400 I finally took the time to go through and do some of those 89 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,920 ritual sites. First time touching those. 90 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:29,040 So I got up to I've got all of the various affixes unlocked, 91 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,400 but I haven't done a level 5 yet. 92 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,040 I'm mostly doing it to like get all of the mounts. 93 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:40,600 So I got the bird because this week is the one in Soleiman. 94 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,280 So I got that that void bird mount. 95 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,840 I cleared cleared through it to get unlock 5. 96 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,960 I'll do that. I've got to get, of course, my 97 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,000 ranks up to get some of those and I need to find some sort of 98 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,280 guide to to tell me exactly where to get all these things. 99 00:05:58,280 --> 00:06:00,960 But because I've just sort of been stumbling through blindly. 100 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:06,440 But this week has been fantastic for me. 101 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:16,400 I got one of the mounts from the rares because there's like two 102 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,040 mounts for in each zone that any rare can drop. 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,800 And so I got one of the mounts from Zolomon and I had two 104 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:35,000 mounts from Ever Song and now I have one mount each from the 105 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,240 other two zones, which means I've got only three mounts 106 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,520 remaining on that. I also took took some time, 107 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,560 pushed, pushed through and worked on my Rep or renown. 108 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:55,880 So now I've got the amount from the soiree, though, I think 109 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,920 there's like more stuff I can do with that, just like all the 110 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,520 sort of single player stuff that came in with like 12 point O 111 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,240 five. That inspired me to do more of 112 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,400 that single player stuff and basically enjoying it. 113 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Of course, trying to trying to make some gold, trying to like 114 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,840 get all. I feel like this is a really 115 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,440 good time to like not make gold, but the stock up on all of my 116 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,280 supplies because next week people are going to start 117 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,040 raiding again and that means that potion prices and all that 118 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,240 sort of stuff are going to be expensive. 119 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,400 So I'm like, let me just let me stock up this week before 120 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,200 everybody's just like, Oh no, I need my class for raid, I need 121 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,040 my buff food for raid, and then all the prices are going to 122 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,640 shoot up and maybe I start selling at that point. 123 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,520 There you go. Here's my little pro tip for 124 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,080 everybody. Yeah, and also, if you're 125 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,320 feeling like you have too much gold in your bank, you can 126 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,800 always send it to me. It's a great way to store gold. 127 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Yes, yes. I wonder how what the interest 128 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,920 rate is on Lex the Bank of Lex it's. 129 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Literally target of 100. Understood, understood, but 130 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,560 there were like on the eve of 12 point O .7. 131 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,600 So we don't have any like big things happening, but there has 132 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,520 been a couple of small updates and the World of Warcraft. 133 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,480 One of the things that I feel has been a great change for 134 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,120 coming up in 12 point O .7 is that the Heroic World Tour or 135 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,679 sorry, World Tear has had the item level requirement removed. 136 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:38,960 That means that as soon as you hit level 90, you can go to 137 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,559 these like mini zones and turn on heroic world, the heroic 138 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,800 world tear. I wouldn't suggest it because 139 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,640 based on what Sean was telling us last time, even if you are 140 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,080 fairly well geared, this stuff will hurt. 141 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:58,760 But you don't have to wait for exactly that 275 item level that 142 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,560 we were debating about before last week. 143 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,640 You can immediately jump in, get the higher rewards, the 144 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:13,640 additional challenge of that Heroic World Tour, which is good 145 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,360 for people who want the challenge. 146 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,880 I don't, I don't know exactly what the hook is for this right 147 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,360 now. I think I will. 148 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,680 I will do it just because as I'm hunting these rares to go do 149 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:30,840 mounts, they drop over so fast, Lex and I am so like just a 150 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,120 little bit more of a push. As long as it's not like 151 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:36,720 absolutely life threatening, I would be happy about it. 152 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,120 Yeah, well, I am really curious about how I'm going to feel 153 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,320 about this when it does come out because this was something that, 154 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,720 you know, yeah, when I was playing Demon Hunter was 155 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,480 absolutely going to be we're open world content with. 156 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,400 So everything for me, right. That was a very, you know, quote 157 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,640 UN quote open world content like Dells, something which has 158 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,640 changed now that I'm playing priests. 159 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,280 I have tried playing all three specs in open world content. 160 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,760 Delves are tuned super well. I loved elves. 161 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,320 I still do them. They're still my bread and 162 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,320 butter. They're incredible. 163 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:21,320 Prey is God damn impossible. I like, I literally have an 164 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,680 active prey right now. I've gotten to the point where I 165 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:27,040 can go kill the nightmare the guy on nightmare difficulty and 166 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,920 I can't do it. I've tried so many times. 167 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,000 I've tried on disk, I've tried on shadow. 168 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,560 I don't know that I've tried on holy, but given that I'm having 169 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:36,880 issues on disk with damage fast enough to get through things, I 170 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,720 don't know that holy would be the solution. 171 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,280 So the point of that is I suddenly am feeling very 172 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,760 different about open world contact. 173 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:50,080 So I, I'm here, I, I might, I'll probably try heroic world here, 174 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:55,840 see how it goes, but I'm feeling less like that will be one of 175 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,440 them. But honestly I I will probably 176 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,120 if nothing else, switch to my Demon Hunter for like a day just 177 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,000 so I can play through it and see how it feels on something that's 178 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,400 tanky and and good for open world content. 179 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,840 Because it was something that I thought was. 180 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,800 OK, I mean, sometimes it is really the class. 181 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:19,920 I can solo rares on my warlock that is like 260 that I have 182 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,920 difficulty soloing on my shaman, that's 288 now. 183 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,920 So sometimes it's like, Oh yeah, I've got a pet like a hunter or 184 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,440 I'm just a tank. That just makes the difference 185 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,840 even after item level. It also could be just 186 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,600 familiarity, like once you get back into swing of the priest 187 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,200 and you're like, OK, let me use my fear at the right time and 188 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,640 that sort of stuff. You might you might be able to 189 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,040 like lock things down at A at the right pacing. 190 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,800 That's true. I I really don't play shadow or 191 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,760 disc on every on any real level. I kind of imported a a build 192 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,560 from icy veins and called it a day and turned on my assist 193 00:11:57,560 --> 00:12:01,920 rotation in my rotation assist. So a lot of it is probably that. 194 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,280 I did also pick a particularly tough nightmare prey. 195 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,680 I picked the guy who summons dragon Hawks every few minutes 196 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:16,760 and that is really tough on at least on on disc because it I 197 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,760 can't kill the dragon Hawks in time. 198 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,520 So I spend the entire time fighting dragon Hawks and 199 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,560 eventually that time gets shorter and shorter and shorter. 200 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:25,680 And then I have multiple dragon Hawks and I can't heal through 201 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:27,560 it. And then I just die every time 202 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:29,440 without fail. And I, I can't be like, well, 203 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,280 I'm going to burn the boss because I try to burn the boss 204 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,320 off and there's three dragon Hawks. 205 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,880 So I, I might have picked a really bad one. 206 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,360 And now I'm saying that Nightmare is impossible on on 207 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,320 disc and it's just that I am doing the wrong one. 208 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,320 I will. It's OK. 209 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,440 I have one side to completely derail this, but I have one more 210 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,400 complaint that I'd like to say. Now that I'm playing as a 211 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,480 healer, I understand the logic behind not giving healers 212 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,640 interrupts in an attempt to keep us from getting overwhelmed. 213 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,000 And like Mythic Plus and raid, I actually genuinely do. 214 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 I do feel like that was an issue that was frustrating for me as a 215 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,560 healer as I kind of felt like in Mythic Plus almost anything that 216 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,800 was not literally forced on DPS would get pushed onto healers 217 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:14,000 because like tank tanking and DPS doesn't want to do things 218 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,280 and so I guess it's going to be the healer. 219 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,560 Y'all got to give us an open world interrupt like if if you 220 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:20,360 were going. To give us the the. 221 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Number of times even in delves. Like luckily Valera is like 222 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:26,760 relatively OK with interrupts, but Oh my God, the number of 223 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,880 times in open world of content I was getting my absolute butt 224 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,800 handed to me. I think I can say ass on the 225 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,560 show I was anyway, I was struggling because it was a 226 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,160 mechanic that very like the point was for example, to 227 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,280 complain more about prey. The major coalescing essences, 228 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,120 right, which are usually a pretty easy way to get prey, 229 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,320 especially like nightmare prey rap pretty quickly, are almost 230 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:58,840 impossible on a healer because they are, they have a heel, 231 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,720 especially near the end. And it's meant to be an 232 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,240 attention check, right? Like are you paying enough 233 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,520 attention? It's an easy interrupt. 234 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,240 Whatever, I can't interrupt so it kept healing and I'm doing 235 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,760 very slow damage so I got him down eventually, but it was way 236 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,840 more time than it was supposed to be. 237 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,160 And I oh man man, just give me one interrupt and make it only 238 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,960 open world. Like make it the second I'm in a 239 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,720 group it turns off. Make it turn off in mythic 240 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,320 class. I don't care. 241 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,880 I get it, I understand the logic. 242 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,120 Give it to me in open world content please. 243 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,960 I do not want to have to play shadow anyway. 244 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Heroic rule tear is going to be fun. 245 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,040 No, no, no, I, I kind of want to go down this tangent. 246 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,120 When you were in Mythic Plus because you had a bunch of 247 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,760 people that were helping you and you were doing group content, 248 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,320 how did it feel in there? How does like healing feel doing 249 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,480 10's and such? So healing in one thing I'm I'm 250 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,440 remembering about holy priest is I think I actually, I, I much 251 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,160 prefer grouped content as a healer and I'm up for solo 252 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,600 content as a DPS. Like trying to get into groups 253 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,120 and stuff. The DPS is stressful in it. 254 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,200 I'm also not a very good DPS. Let's just lay it out there, 255 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,760 right? Like I'm parsing graze most of 256 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 the time I was, I had a lot of fun as a Demon Hunter, but I'm 257 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,880 certainly not like one of the top demon hunters in the world. 258 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,680 So I was struggling a lot more with getting group content going 259 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,400 as ADPS versus as a healer. I had a lot of a lot more fun, 260 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,800 although I did have I'm being reminded of why I was scared of 261 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,040 pugs. I did have one pug on the last 262 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,120 group we did where the tank after we finished the key, like 263 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,240 made a little comment like healer, it's fine to be under 264 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,760 geared, but if you're not going to even know the basic strats, 265 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,680 you need to not be here. Which like fair enough. 266 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,440 But number 1, I actually did know the strats. 267 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,920 There was one that I screwed up. It was you're going to Spire and 268 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,360 I forgot that you're supposed to stack for the so like whatever, 269 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,360 my bad. But everything else, like I knew 270 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,800 the mechanics. It was just that I was like, 271 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Holy Priest is not mobile. So I very often have to make a 272 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,400 choice between like, am I going to risk soaking whatever this is 273 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,120 or am I going to let the entire team die because I can't heal 274 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,320 them right now? And point #2 Mister man is that 275 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,240 we finished with like 8 minutes leftover. 276 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,720 So like we got our ten. I don't know what we're 277 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,720 complaining about, but I did remember the stress of like, oh 278 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,280 God, like I kind of am responsible. 279 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,360 I get in the tanks defense. I did like wipe I think like 280 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,000 right. So yeah, I was under geared and 281 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,760 I am not a very experienced healer. 282 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,400 I haven't played in three years. I get it. 283 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,840 I was being carried by friends and poor guy got dragged into 284 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,840 that. Oh no, poor tank. 285 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,720 He only got 6 minutes under time. 286 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,520 I'll stop whining about it. He's probably fair. 287 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,880 He's probably, but the point is I forgot that if you are healer 288 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,120 you get yelled at you too poorly. 289 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,480 I mean it's not just healers. I I have again Windrunner Spire. 290 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,680 What I don't know what that that's about, but like the one 291 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,000 of the first thirteens that I did, we timed it. 292 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:03,000 We got through it, but like part way through the like one of one 293 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,520 of the other people commented something and then it wasn't 294 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,920 till like I was like, OK, So what, what's the deal? 295 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,800 And they're like, oh, like you're ignoring mechanics sort 296 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,880 of sort of thing. And there are mechanics that you 297 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,280 can ignore on lower keys that you can't on higher keys. 298 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,160 Now, despite the Despite that, they at least took the time to 299 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,520 say like, Hey, you need to make sure that you're clearing this. 300 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,000 You're a shaman, you you can get rid of that sort of thing. 301 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,800 But like also, I guess there's a duty on like there is, sorry, I 302 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:41,320 shouldn't say, I guess there's a duty on doing the quote UN 303 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,240 quote, lower keys or doing your homework so that so that 304 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,080 somebody who's going in there isn't like completely lost. 305 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,840 But even even still, I will play relaxed keys. 306 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,760 I will avoid competitive keys. And even Sean has said like, Oh 307 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 yeah, no, I don't want to do competitors because like that 308 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,160 mindset, I don't want to walk into that. 309 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:10,560 And it's far more common, not exclusive, but far more common 310 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,640 when you sign up for the competitive keys. 311 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Now, I'm not saying that you and I are faultless for going in and 312 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:24,520 not knowing that stuff. No, I'm just saying that it 313 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:30,360 doesn't happen to just healers. There is a lot of things that as 314 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:38,280 you get higher up, you can no longer just compensate for it 315 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,120 after the fact. You have to be aware of it ahead 316 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:45,520 of time. But like as this is your first 317 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,560 week doing those dungeons as a healer or even touching a holy 318 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,680 priest in years, I think we you can give yourself a little bit 319 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,800 of slack and know that like, hey, yeah, there are there are 320 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,040 some things that are you need to look up. 321 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,760 Yeah, and, and to be fair, I did also yell at the DPS. 322 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:10,280 And by yell I mean I said in one of my dungeon when I like my 323 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,840 leveling dungeon. I said you guys please kick. 324 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,160 And unfortunately I did traumatize the poor mage. 325 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,520 It was like, wait, who are we kicking? 326 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,040 I hope it's not me, it's my first time. 327 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,040 I'm like no babe, interrupt, interrupt. 328 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,800 No one is getting kicked out. It's a normal dungeon. 329 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,760 That would be insane. We just need to stop letting 330 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,800 every single to spell go off. So, you know, I, I do think 331 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:38,200 there is a valid point to like I, I, I mean, to be fair, I come 332 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,880 from Final Fantasy where people are teaching all the time and I 333 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,840 don't come from, I most recently have healed in Final Fantasy 334 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,480 where people teach all the time in dungeons, right. 335 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,520 That's kind of part of your point. 336 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,800 And you will also say if you're corrected, like, you know, 337 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,640 cracking somebody as you are, like, harping out of the 338 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,480 dungeon, that feels a little bit more like you're just trying to, 339 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,800 like, make a point and not really like, if it had been 340 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,000 terrible, presumably he would have said something like, 341 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,960 healer, you need to do XYZ, right? 342 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,640 Again, we got through most of it with a lot of time to spare. 343 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,880 Yeah, that does not sound like a good faith, like let let me give 344 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,320 you a little helping hand. So for your next dungeons, that 345 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,640 seems like a I'm going to let you know how much you ruin my 346 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,920 day by reading your day. Exactly. 347 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,040 And to be fair, also, it was a really tough transition for me 348 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,800 going to Final Fantasy because people would do a lot of 349 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,280 teaching, you know, they would say like, oh, it seems like 350 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,960 maybe this in your rotation isn't correct or like, oh, it 351 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,000 seems like XYZ is going wrong. I had to be like, OK, like let 352 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,480 me play my class, dude. Like chill out. 353 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Partially, I think, and partially because I'm touchy, 354 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,360 but partially because in, in World of Warcraft, that sort of 355 00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:46,400 correction is usually progressive, right? 356 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,720 Like, like there's less of a culture of we're all going to 357 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,800 kind of work together and get each other to the best. 358 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,040 So if somebody is giving me corrections that I didn't ask 359 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,520 for, it feels different. But yeah, yeah. 360 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,160 I mean, I, I, I do, I, I do kind of wish that we had a little bit 361 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,280 more of a teaching culture. And I understand why 10 is not 362 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,080 the place. And I do kind of feel a little 363 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,720 bit bad for the, you know, the tank and the other DPS that we 364 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,440 pulled into a PUG that was actually a like, you know, gear 365 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,960 and Harry that they like weren't worthy. 366 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Yeah. You know, I I did not do great 367 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:24,360 on that key, but it I think there would be a benefit. 368 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:27,960 And this thing that I felt a lot back when I did LFR is that 369 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,760 nobody wanted to teach. Yeah. 370 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,720 Everyone just wanted to get, like, to push through. 371 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,600 And then we would just wipe all the time on bosses. 372 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,360 And then the second we took, you know, 60 seconds to let somebody 373 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:42,040 who had great experience just walk through the basic 374 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,520 mechanics, all of a sudden we get it. 375 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,080 And like, you know, it actually would have taken less time if we 376 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,280 were just paused at the beginning. 377 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,200 So I think there is a benefit to allowing to building a culture 378 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,320 of like teaching mechanics at the start of fight or be willing 379 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,880 to like go through that if it seems like people are 380 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,160 struggling. But again, I also fully 381 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,280 understand where the tank is coming from that a 10 is not the 382 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,440 place for that. I get it. 383 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,760 I'm sorry Sir, I hope you had a better day. 384 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:12,560 I OK, so I would question a number of things based on like 385 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,840 what day it was. Like if this is like Monday 386 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,160 before reset, then it is more likely that people are just 387 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,000 trying to get their keys done and and fill their vault sort of 388 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,360 thing. OK. 389 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,800 And yes, if you, if you guys listed the group you should talk 390 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,320 about like, hey, we're we are teaching this healer. 391 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,520 We're trying to gear up our friends sort of thing. 392 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,920 Just letting them know ahead of time. 393 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,920 So that's communication on you on their end, all the stuff that 394 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,520 you talked about and on the game's end, we did. 395 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,920 I just talked about how some things, even though mechanically 396 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:00,480 things aren't really changing between A2 plus and a 12 plus or 397 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,640 even A20 plus right for that 2 to 12, yes, you've got the 398 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,720 xalatath affixes that are coming in. 399 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,960 Suddenly we've got tyrannical and the bosses are hitting way 400 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960 harder. Suddenly we got fortified in the 401 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,520 the trash is hitting harder, right? 402 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,440 There's the bargain itself that like that has like a weird 403 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,480 little affix that on that you were dealing with on a 10 that 404 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,200 was was there from I guess A5 plus, right. 405 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Once you get past the past that you're no longer dealing with 406 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:35,400 the Xalatas thing and just everything hits harder. 407 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,800 And so when you're dealing with, like I said, the 13 was a good 408 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,080 example because now suddenly this small little tick damage on 409 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,840 the last boss that you could ignore and just clear it with 410 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,920 with like jumping over another mechanic. 411 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,080 Now you have to like clear it so that you're not draining your 412 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:00,400 healer the the curse that you could say, OK, well, whatever, 413 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,280 I'm just going to move away from the ad that this spawns you. 414 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,600 You can't be causing that kind of strain and sort of stuff. 415 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:12,720 And so there's this graduation that happens along it, but it's 416 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,760 not like it's really signpost that it's like, hey, this 417 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,280 mechanic is now deadly on in the dungeon journal as if many 418 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,640 people want like read the dungeon journal. 419 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,520 I get really sad about the the lack of use of the dungeon 420 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:33,880 journal. But like all of that is a matter 421 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,280 of teaching, a matter of learning and everything. 422 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,120 And like, yes, once again, Lex, you have had the absolute 423 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:45,640 disservice of jumping in late into a season. 424 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,640 And I do want to talk about this later, late into a season where 425 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:55,600 the expectation is, come on, it's been 1616 plus weeks. 426 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,560 You should know this by now. Why, why are you in a 10? 427 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,320 And you, you don't know this. So it's, it's a lot of that. 428 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,440 It's a lot of preconceived notions that weren't dispelled 429 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,360 because of the communication, and I don't want to put that all 430 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,320 laid at all on the feet of the healer, like everything else 431 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,920 that happens in a dungeon. Well, and I think I complained 432 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,360 about this a couple tears ago back when I was trying to learn 433 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,640 to tank and then got a little bit overwhelmed with that. 434 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,880 I do think that especially, yeah, that mindset of like, 435 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,400 well, it's late in the tears, So what are you doing? 436 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,360 Learning is. And again, I do want to say it 437 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,360 before because I know someone I'm sure is typing a little 438 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:33,960 comment. I understand it was different 439 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,280 with the 10. I feel that. 440 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,840 I understand why the tank was frustrated. 441 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,960 We we were way under time, like we were fine. 442 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:42,360 But anyway, anyway, we're moving on. 443 00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,560 We're moving on. I, I, I think that mindset of 444 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,120 like, well, yeah, it's late in the season. 445 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:53,160 You know, this is really a disservice, especially to the, 446 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,680 the like the attempt to get new tanks and and healers in, 447 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,840 because now is kind of the time that a lot of people like, Oh 448 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,400 yeah, like I did my stuff with my DPSI want to like, what if I 449 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,320 tested something out? What if I saw how it was in 450 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,600 roles that are much harder? Like, Yeah, again, I've done 451 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Windrunner Spire. I know how you do Windrunner 452 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,880 Spire. It's just that I did it on a 453 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,560 Demon Hunter and I, which is a highly mobile class that can 454 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,000 take a little bit of beating and be OK versus a holy priest, 455 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,760 which is an extremely immobile class with a lot more going on. 456 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,560 Windrunner Spire having I did a, you know, quite a few tennis 457 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,640 this week. Windrunner has insane damage 458 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,680 spite like Nexus Point, I think was the only thing that I've 459 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,480 done that felt remotely close to it. 460 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,520 And usually those, especially with boss fights, usually those 461 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,200 damage fights are also when there's a foot mechanic, right? 462 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,160 So I'm trying to figure out how in God's name I'm going to like 463 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840 every 60 seconds. So, you know, I don't have a 464 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,600 cool down every time, how I'm going to simultaneously move and 465 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,160 also heal my group because everyone's dying. 466 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,200 And also there's fire on the ground. 467 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:02,240 So it was a particularly challenging situation that I, I 468 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040 yeah, if we want more tanks and healers, we want that cue to be 469 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,760 shorter, which I guess the tank probably doesn't care. 470 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,720 But if we want to invite more people in, we do have to have a 471 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,280 little bit more grace later in the season to let people learn 472 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:19,280 and make that learning a fun experience that makes them want 473 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,680 to come back next year. And I say that knowing what I'm 474 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,440 going to do is I'm going to keep running times with my jail, 475 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,400 right? I am more I'll probably do a few 476 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,040 lower keys on my my healer with pugs since now I have like half 477 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,800 my things at 10 and I can like taste keystone master and I'm 478 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,160 like well maybe, maybe I can make everyone to help me up to 479 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,360 keystone master. That would be cool. 480 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,240 It would be. It would be my first Keystone 481 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,480 master ever I think, so it'd be fun if I could. 482 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,040 Do if you want to, if you want to push a little further, get to 483 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600 your keystone legend that I think it's only 12, and then you 484 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,120 don't have to deal with the affix anymore. 485 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,280 But again, there are there are communities for this. 486 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,160 The World of Warcraft ambassador thing has many communities that 487 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,400 you can go through and like learn from that. 488 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,080 So if you don't have a Guild fully supporting you, there are 489 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,200 communities that can support you as well. 490 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,680 But yeah, on top of that, while you're running through those 491 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,320 dungeons and as you are now going through as a healer, did 492 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,040 you have to get any kind of like add-ons or adjust the add-ons 493 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240 that you currently have to better heal? 494 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,400 I have not been using different add-ons. 495 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,800 I kind of took them very seriously when they said there's 496 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,240 no add-ons to the point when when my guildies were like we 497 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840 should get DBMI was like DBM is dead what are you talking about? 498 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Now I use DBM for rating but I am just using the base UI kit so 499 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,840 maybe that's one of the reasons why I'm struggling. 500 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,520 Maybe everyone else has cool little dungeon add-ons but I 501 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,200 don't know about because I assumed they were telling the 502 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,960 truth and they said we had no more add-ons. 503 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,840 Well, I would say that it would be good for you to check to see 504 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,840 if add-ons can help you. There are a lot of things that 505 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,800 like we were talking about last week where you can have little 506 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,680 wigs that lets you rename stuff so that it's more the 507 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,160 instruction of what to do of the for the mechanic. 508 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,760 And so I would suggest that. But that does lead us to our 509 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,320 next topic, which is that Curse Forge is having an add on 510 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,960 contest. This is going to be taking place 511 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:34,440 where you can win part of a total prize pool of $8100 US 512 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,560 over 20 winners. These are the Midnight add-ons. 513 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:48,160 Entries that are allowed there are first place taking 2500, 514 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,920 second place with 1500, third place with a flat 1000, and then 515 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:59,880 four 4th place through 10th place getting 300 each just for 516 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,880 submitting a new add on which these are of course the things 517 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,320 that will let you like organize UI's or make any part of the 518 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,840 game smoother that they're just they are literally looking for 519 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:21,240 add-ons on on Curse Forge Phase one has already began that began 520 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,440 on June 9th. That's going to continue through 521 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:33,000 until phase two where on June 23rd the mid contest winners are 522 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,120 going to be announced. Now I am unsure how mid contest 523 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,680 winners work, but on July 5th the submissions will close. 524 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Community voting will begin on the 9th through to the 13th and 525 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,160 then the winners will be announced on July 15th. 526 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,840 So again, this can be any add on for World of Warcraft midnight. 527 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Just make sure that you publish your add on and upload it to 528 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,720 Curse Forge and then you can register through the contest 529 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,400 page to be eligible for this. And so again, it's going to be 530 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,520 voting with all this stuff that has been going on in midnight 531 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,520 with the add on apocalypse and more functionality being 532 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,440 restored to add-ons and many add on creators having like left the 533 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,240 game or new add-ons coming up, this seems like a really good 534 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,440 time to push for some some add-ons. 535 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,480 What do you, what do you think Lex? 536 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,120 What with your priest play through that. 537 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440 What kind of add-ons would you be looking for? 538 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960 If you're like, man, give this to me right here, right now. 539 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,160 I think they should be creative cursive. 540 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,080 I know they can, but wouldn't it be fun? 541 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,040 Wouldn't it be fun? Yeah. 542 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,000 So first of all, just in case anyone is curious because I know 543 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,720 I was curious. I did just double check the 544 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,360 rules and they it does have to be new so it's not like can say 545 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,000 Oh well, what about us? It has to have been after 546 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,640 created after the release of which I think is kind of cool. 547 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,520 I I am so I'm very bad at thinking of what add-ons should 548 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:19,320 exist so I would not be able to like come up with a need. 549 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,400 That you're like, it's like man this is stupid. 550 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,720 I need an add on that can handle this. 551 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,600 You don't have to be like I need. 552 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,440 An add on interrupts open world things for me. 553 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,240 OK. Did summon someone actually, I 554 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,240 mean what this is group Finder. What I really want is I want an 555 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,840 add on that like lets me kind of like signal to people around me 556 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480 that I'm doing open world content that like I'd like 557 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,280 people to help me with open world content so we don't have 558 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,080 to like as in like world quests and stuff. 559 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,520 Mostly when I was like leveling to kind of like let people know. 560 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Like I feel like very often I'll see people in like World Quest 561 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,360 and stuff and I'm like, oh, I'm a little baby disc priest. 562 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,600 It's going to be really fun if I hang out with this person and 563 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,880 they go fly somewhere else and I'm like, was that because they 564 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,200 didn't think that I needed that? Like, like would they have 565 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,280 wanted to stay and hang out with me if they knew that I was 566 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,240 excited to be their little pocket healer for this? 567 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920 Or is it just then? But they were like, oh, we're 568 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,440 all, you know, open world content, who cares? 569 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Or did they want me to leave them alone because I was being 570 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,640 weird and annoying? So yeah, like like some way to 571 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,960 like, get people in or like with Oh my God, I have never. 572 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,240 But like Lex that did exist back in Legion, there was like a 573 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,640 bunch of like add-ons that would like auto create groups or auto 574 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,680 add you into groups that were so that you could do world Crest 575 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,360 super fast. And then the team squashed that 576 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,480 back in the day. So like, again, it's like you 577 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,480 can think of a wish that you have, especially now that we're 578 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,400 getting these like heroic tier setups, right? 579 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,000 So that would be something that people might like. 580 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,240 And so as long as you're not in combat, it could send something 581 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,200 through and create a group for you sort of stuff. 582 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,240 Yeah, that could be something that people want back again with 583 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,640 the Heroic World Tour. Yeah, yeah, I so I do think it's 584 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,360 very fun that we're doing the add on contest now and it does 585 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,840 kind of make me wonder if there are other people like me who 586 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,080 sort of took Blizzard at their word that add-ons were dead and 587 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,199 just stopped updating and working with them. 588 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,760 And I mean, part of it I do think is for baseline stuff, the 589 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,400 base UI is actually pretty OK at this point, right? 590 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,360 You know, it does its job as a really all I had was, you know, 591 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,080 a couple I had tell me when D cursive, I Frankenstein my UI 592 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,920 always so. And I did like literal mouse 593 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000 over macros, like going in and typing like flash macro and 594 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:49,159 typing them all out by hand. So I was able to transition very 595 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:53,159 smoothly to blizzards you base UI. 596 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,199 And so I kind of haven't even looked at add-ons. 597 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,640 And I wonder if part of what they're trying to do is rebuild 598 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,680 hype, right? Like remind us that add-ons do 599 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,600 still exist. There are still options. 600 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,720 Oh, you know what we really I don't even know if it's possible 601 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:06,880 and this actually probably does exist. 602 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,400 But if it doesn't, I would love something that lets me hover 603 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,800 over a piece of housing decor and like actually see what it 604 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,880 would look like, like as like a model, Because every time I'm 605 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,720 going I I'm in a mythic plus or something and a housing decor 606 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,880 piece pops up. I just won't need on it because 607 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 I'm like, I have no, I guess I could open my stupid journal. 608 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,600 I'm not going to open my stupid journal, right? 609 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,960 I guess I'll just need on it. And half the time I'm like, Oh, 610 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,120 this is hideous and I never put it in my house. 611 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,480 And if I'd known that I would have passed on it and then 612 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,960 someone else could have needed on it. 613 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,000 I'm not going to open my can you? 614 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,600 Control. Click on it to do that. 615 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,560 Oh, can you? I think you need to be a mouse 616 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,680 over Manny. I'm horrifyingly lazy. 617 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,560 Yeah, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure you can control 618 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,920 click on it. I'm definitely sure that that 619 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,760 functionality is in. I'm not sure if it's in a 620 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,480 dungeon because a lot, again, a lot of things are restricted 621 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,680 while you're in a dungeon, but I know that there is a similar 622 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:10,120 functionality for housing because I had a friend over and 623 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,200 she had that, she had an add on and just like, oh, what is that? 624 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,720 Oh, it's this. And, and it'll give you 625 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:20,720 information on where it goes. It's like a expanded the 626 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:22,880 inventory thing. So like you mouse over and it'll 627 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,800 tell you what you're looking at. So even if they've got it like 628 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,880 Twisted or Frankenstein together, you can like actually 629 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,600 see what the the different pieces are. 630 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,480 Maybe I need your friend to send me this add on. 631 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,560 I wanted that on so bad. I didn't know who people were. 632 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,200 Like I would go into my friends houses and then have all this 633 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,760 cool stuff and I'm like, well, I can't spend the entire time 634 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,160 being like, OK, where's that? Where's that, where's that, 635 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,720 where's that, where's that? But like I'm also like, what am 636 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:49,400 I going to go into my housing dashboard and be like take out 637 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,640 container? Like, I don't know how to 638 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,440 search. I don't have weird names, and 639 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,080 half the time it works and half the time it doesn't. 640 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,760 Like, I don't know. I didn't realize that we were 641 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,200 thinking that was a bench. I thought it was a chair. 642 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,680 And now I can't search it at all. 643 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,360 So yeah, if I had the ability to just mouse over things and then 644 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,920 know what it was, I would spend all my time just creeping on 645 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,840 people's houses. It's, it's fantastic, especially 646 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,320 since if you're, if it's a friend that you can go into 647 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520 their place without them there, then you can spend the time 648 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,680 being like, OK, let me mouse over. 649 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,640 Oh, that's what that is. Let me jot that down onto my 650 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,240 list of things that I want to get sort of sort of stuff rather 651 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,960 than while you're there, be like, hey, buddy, what, what 652 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,760 what does that mean out of oh, how'd you like, I, I mean, like 653 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,560 some of it is cool to be, to say like, how did you put that 654 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,240 together or that sort of stuff? But yeah, no, I, I, I get that, 655 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:38,360 I get that. So, yeah, again, that's how this 656 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,120 works. It's just like you play the 657 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,600 game, you have a need, you're like, wouldn't it be fantastic 658 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,800 if this existed? And then if you've got the the 659 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,400 skills, the chops to do it, hit that add on, submit it to this 660 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,760 contest and you could win a couple of grand. 661 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,640 With that said, the other thing that people are doing that's 662 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,360 creative also includes a bench. This is a a bench that came from 663 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,680 the Decor Duels O you have the animated bench toy that comes 664 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:21,120 from decor Duels that is now being used in mythic Lus. 665 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:27,080 Specifically the last boss of Skyreach will summon these ads 666 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,720 that will grab one member of your team, non tank member of 667 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:35,520 your team and start pulling them towards the edge to throw them 668 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,200 off the very edge of the encounter. 669 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,800 And so this is like ADPS check you got to burn this thing down. 670 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,920 You can use the stun, but if you lay the bench down they can 671 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,920 click the bench, sit down on the bench thereby escaping the 672 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,240 creatures gas grasp and then everybody just goes back to DPS 673 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,160 ING the the boss, completely omitting a mechanic. 674 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:07,160 I am surprised that this has lasted as long as it as it has. 675 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,880 This is something that was popularized by Kess Live. 676 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,080 He put out a tweet about this on June 7th and also had a clip 677 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:26,040 showing how it works and we are now recording date is June 10th 678 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,440 and yeah, haven't have not seen a hot fix for this. 679 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,560 This is the kind of creative game mechanics that I think 680 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,960 should be hot fixed out real quick because it completely 681 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,360 negates a mechanic. Yeah, I think it should be hot 682 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,680 fixed out very quickly as well because it's obviously not meant 683 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,120 to happen. However, this is the type of 684 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,200 like human creativity that just really sparks joy for me like 685 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,560 nothing else. I do remember once I was at like 686 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,200 a beer fast, like one of those places you can get different 687 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,000 years, so obviously a little tipsy. 688 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920 And I remember sitting there like overwhelmed with the 689 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,080 concept of human creativity and how many different things people 690 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,800 just like come up with that I never would have thought of 691 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,440 doing. And this is this is sparking 692 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,400 that same vibe for me. Like Oh my God, I never would 693 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,720 have. I thought I there's a special 694 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,440 place in my heart don't tell Blizzard. 695 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,120 I said this fast dev. I'm hoping they understand that 696 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,600 we're to fight after not changing the the release date of 697 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,440 12 point O .7 so I could hear Sean speak Klingon. 698 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,920 So hopefully they're not listening, but they if they are 699 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,720 doing a little ear muffs, buddy, you don't need to hear this. 700 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,320 There's a special place in my heart for those like people who 701 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,880 spend their entire time trying to find weird insane, like, oh, 702 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,680 what if we kill Gallywigs by porting through the floor? 703 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,360 Like just absolute bananas stuff. 704 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960 Yeah, of course was it has to fix because of course it's game 705 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,120 break, right? Like that's not the point of the 706 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,560 mechanic. They're doing it wrong. 707 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,400 They're breaking something. But like, oh man, who thought to 708 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,040 bring out the bench tour? That's crazy. 709 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:59,120 Yeah, I think the ones that I love are like the people like 710 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,280 Rex Troy who are like, I just soloed this boss because I use 711 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,160 like this and this and then the bosses move instead bounces back 712 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,760 and hits him in the head like that. 713 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,400 Like that stuff is just absolutely crazy. 714 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:19,720 And I do I do love that Rex Troy is amazing at that stuff. 715 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,440 And before he publicizes that he usually gives Blizzard, I think 716 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,600 just predominantly gives Blizzard a heads up saying like, 717 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,640 hey, found this exploit and give them time to like patch it out 718 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,960 before he releases the video of him doing like absolute madness, 719 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,280 like one shooting people with like a bomb from like BFA 720 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,360 because the cap wasn't put in or something like that. 721 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,440 Like it's that to me is really cool. 722 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:52,720 I do love, in a similar vein, when people find like weird 723 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:57,640 unintended ways of using items like the trinket that we were 724 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,600 talking about last week, when it's like, oh, I'll exactly 725 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,760 balance everything and now I get a boost for all of that. 726 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,440 That to me, I was like, oh, that's so cool. 727 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,280 Like I understand that like it needs to be corrected, but man, 728 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,960 wouldn't it be great if we lived in this world where that like 729 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,880 where we got to play with that for a bit and lizard just left 730 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,920 it alone for like 2-3 weeks so people can have their like 731 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,040 little fun min maxing. So I I get that completely. 732 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:27,400 I do think it's a little, I think I've said this before, but 733 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,720 I do think it's a little bit sad that we are in a world of such 734 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:33,720 heavy like Sims and everything is automated. 735 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,440 And there's like I think I've mentioned my dad. 736 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,200 I mean, this is poor rating was separated into different years, 737 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,040 but he was in a highly competitive rate Guild and he 738 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,720 has stories of, you know, his friend who had all of these 739 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,160 friendsheets that they would take and like they would 740 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,320 literally just spend hours trying to figure out exactly 741 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,560 which talents got like the highest DPS. 742 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,960 And then you know, that information, the guildies and 743 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,280 stuff. I wouldn't I mean, I'd be 744 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,880 honest, probably would not. I definitely would not be the 745 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,400 person doing that and I would just be looking for my human 746 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,160 who's the human version of icy veins. 747 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680 But I do sometimes I feel a little sad that it feels like 748 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,640 we've kind of everything is known, right? 749 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,640 Everything was determined on the PTR and send out with numbers 750 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,120 that no human human possibly could have calculated and handed 751 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,040 over to us on a silver platter. And there's benefits. 752 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,320 I have never played classic. That's not true. 753 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,520 I tried classic once for a night and I was like this is terrible 754 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,320 this is so hard. I would like to go back to my 755 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,000 nice easy vanilla or not vanilla you guys know it. 756 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,400 Retail is the word I was looking for. 757 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,520 I mean, OK, so go ahead, go. Ahead. 758 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,240 No go. Yeah, anyway, so I wouldn't 759 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,120 actually do it. But sometimes the joy of 760 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,240 watching other people figure things out is fun. 761 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,880 I there are still weird little intro like inconsistencies, 762 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:04,800 little intricacies in the game that exist and don't get fixed 763 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,920 and are just baked into the guide of how you play your 764 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,200 class. OK, I'm about to go little into 765 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,760 the weeds about shaman talk here. 766 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,680 Right? There is an ability for 767 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:30,800 elemental shamans that creates that causes your next two 768 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,600 lightning bolts to be instant cast and 250% damage. 769 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,240 OK and then there is another ability that causes your next 770 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,520 nature spell, which lightning bolt is a nature spell to be 771 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,720 instant cast and do more damage. OK. 772 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,880 If you press both of these together and then you hit 773 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,840 lightning bolt, what would you expect to happen? 774 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,080 Big damage. Yeah, you would expect big 775 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,920 damage. You would use up both buffs for 776 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,120 the first one and then the second one would get just the 777 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,080 the one buff. That's not how it works. 778 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:15,160 The big damage counts for the 1st 2:00 as the as the the one 779 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,520 buff is used and then your third spell is instant with only the 780 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,200 one buff used. So the one buff that should only 781 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,080 be used for one spell actually carries over 3 spells. 782 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,680 And it's been this way forever for elemental shamans. 783 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,720 And it's it's known, it's a bug, it's been reported, but it just 784 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,440 it happens that way. There is there are weird little 785 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,160 intricate weird little things that are just part of classes. 786 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,080 For the longest time, monks and their storm, earth and fire was 787 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,840 bugged to like God knows what point. 788 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,840 And it just became part of like how they did it. 789 00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,280 And if you, if you look into it and you find these things, 790 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,200 they're weird and they're funny and they're strange. 791 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:10,640 For the longest time in the war within, if you cast a, if you 792 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,960 were like a Farsi, A shaman, and that was the one that summoned 793 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960 your ancestors and your ancestors would see the spell 794 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,040 that you cast and would cast a spell. 795 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,920 So you cast a single target spell, they would cast a single 796 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,120 target spell. And if you cast an AOE spell, 797 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,240 they would cast an AOE spell. And that made sense. 798 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:35,160 But there was a combination of buffs that would cause your 799 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,320 single target spell to hit multiple targets. 800 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,360 And your ancestors would see that and say, oh, you just hit 801 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,200 everybody with a single target spell. 802 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,400 Let me hold my beer. And they would do the same. 803 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:57,400 And like I found it in the alpha and I was talking with shout out 804 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,560 to Hawk Corrigan and the people over at the Earthshine because 805 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,120 like I, I happen to get access to this before they did. 806 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,960 And we sat down like we sat down spreadsheet of like, do you do 807 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,560 this move? What the hell does your ancestor 808 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,280 do? Do you do this move? 809 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,680 What the hell does your ancestor do? 810 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,040 So like, I've done that and yeah, there's joy in it. 811 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,000 It's so it's weirdly fun for me. I love it. 812 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,040 Just like. Figuring things out. 813 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,000 It's fun to figure things out. And they left it for so long now 814 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,880 the the move that did it, that's been gone in the streamline that 815 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,320 we got with with with Midnight. But like, yeah, those those sort 816 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,320 of things do exist in the game and they're so fun and they're 817 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,040 so weird and I love them. So yeah, if you ever want to go 818 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:48,400 down that rabbit hole, they do exist, yeah. 819 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,800 It's fun. And World of Warcraft, there's, 820 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000 I mean, part of it is there's so many people that someone's going 821 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,120 to figure this thing out eventually. 822 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,240 But I do feel like we have a very creative and thoughtful 823 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,440 group of folks who like to figure out weird things and also 824 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,720 really like to break the game joyfully and also unfortunately. 825 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,920 Very true, but there is another thing that's happening with 826 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,200 World of Warcraft right now. It's come up not just with us 827 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,680 recently with my burnout with your team missing some key 828 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:27,040 people and but like throughout the World Warcraft community. 829 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,640 You can see it in like not as many twitch streamers are are 830 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,880 streaming Wow in other shows that I listen to because I don't 831 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,520 just I don't just listen to my own voice guys, as wonderful as 832 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,880 I think it is, I listen to other people too about like how even 833 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,680 though the World of Warcraft content is coming faster than 834 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,480 ever before, it's not holding people. 835 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,320 There are people who like like you're a heel leader. 836 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,840 Like listen, I got other things that I need to focus on. 837 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,000 I need to step out and that always happens. 838 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,280 But just in general, I feel like we've left the honeymoon phase 839 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,640 of midnight and I'm and I want to ask you, Lex, have you been 840 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,160 feeling that? Have you, I mean, I think you 841 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,760 said this before, have you been tending more towards raid 842 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,760 logging outside of this super crazy week to like get the get 843 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,560 the healing together, What's been the experience for you and 844 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,680 for your team? Yeah. 845 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:29,320 So personally, I think I, I definitely did feel a little bit 846 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:34,800 more RAID logging more, I think more like earlier in the, the 847 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,800 tier that I usually would have. Although part of it is also that 848 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,240 for us, the tier is pushing a little longer than usual. 849 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:44,640 So, you know, hard to tell exactly where things are 850 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:52,600 happening where I am feeling less excited about like new 851 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,160 content comes out and it doesn't feel like a joyful excitement 852 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,560 thing. It feels like I'm having trouble 853 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,360 keeping my feet under me, and that kind of makes me just 854 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,520 disconnect from it. I do feel like I've heard more 855 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:11,920 people talk about burnout, this tear, than other tears maybe. 856 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,600 And again, you know, my guilt has some things being shaken up. 857 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,160 So it's hard to tell what's causing what, but I just feel 858 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,080 like people are overall, I'm hearing more people feel 859 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,840 exhausted and feel frustrated. I, I mean, I've spoken at length 860 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,640 about the fact that I feel like the content they're putting out 861 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,360 is not as good. It's it's, you know, a lot more 862 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,000 shallow and also so much so it's hard to kind of focus on 863 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,560 everything. I do also think whether or not 864 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,040 people, maybe I'm, you know, projecting and assuming the way 865 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,560 that I play is how everyone plays, but I think people really 866 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,960 do benefit from taking a break from the fact that World 867 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,200 Warcraft usually has a kind of built in break at the end of a 868 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,000 tier in my experience, even if they don't think they do. 869 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,840 I remember I had one Guild where the team was like, we're going 870 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,160 to push hard and everyone's fine. 871 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,760 We're going to keep going and we're going to start moving into 872 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,560 Mythic and we're going to be fair is not Tavern, which also 873 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,880 moved into mythic and said we all hate this and stuff. 874 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:15,160 But where we were, the officer team was saying like, we are 875 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,840 going to push really, really hard and just keep going. 876 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,600 And then the Guild collapsed because almost every single 877 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,120 officer quit, right? Everyone burnt out. 878 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,920 And they were all saying they wanted to push. 879 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,040 And they were saying they didn't want brakes and they didn't 880 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,560 want, you know, the space between expansions that we 881 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,800 usually had. And then they didn't have it. 882 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,480 And they got really frustrated and everyone laughed and moved 883 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,000 to Final Fantasy. And so I think, and this is 884 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,480 something that I'm kind of feeling right now is I'm looking 885 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,240 at this, you know, the, the move to 12.1 and I'm not really 886 00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:50,840 seeing any time off, right? I'm seeing pretty consistent 887 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,360 pushing off through there like maybe a few weeks, but probably 888 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,160 not a lot of time before I'm going to be back on the 889 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,320 treadmill and, and going to 12.1. 890 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,400 And a part of me just kind of wants to disconnect, right? 891 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,480 Like I, I, I don't feel like I see a light at the end of the 892 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,640 tunnel. It doesn't feel like I'm going 893 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,440 to do the like push and push and push. 894 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,000 And then, but then I'll be OK and I'll have, you know, a few 895 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,080 months that will be when I like catch up on shows and play other 896 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,800 games and you know, go hang out with my dog and hang out with my 897 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,880 real life friends. It's like, no, I'm going to push 898 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,440 and push and push. And then I'm going to get a 899 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,840 little bit, you know, like a little bit of time off and then 900 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,040 it's time to push and push and push and push and push again. 901 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,480 And that doesn't in theory, right? 902 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,200 If you sit down and say, Hey, do you guys want World of Warcraft 903 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,120 content more of the time? That's like it's more new. 904 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,920 People will say yes, but I think that when you actually see it in 905 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,160 in person, it feels exhausting and it feels overwhelming. 906 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,960 And it feels like, oh, wait, I wanted some time to go grind 907 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,560 mounts. I wanted some time to go, you 908 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,880 know, build all the things that you don't even really think 909 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,480 about, the fact that you're really looking forward to your 910 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,960 time off of, you know, your core content with your main. 911 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,000 And again, it's a little self-serving because I'm very 912 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,200 open about the fact that those are things that I like and that 913 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,400 I like the World of Warcraft content cycle being like heavy, 914 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,320 like heavy like heavy like. So maybe I'm wrong, but yeah, I 915 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,680 do feel like burnout has been happening more than I would 916 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,720 expect in mid. I mean, you can only talk about 917 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:29,520 your perspective as much as as because like that is what you 918 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,720 see. It is much harder to talk about 919 00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:36,040 other people's perspectives because like you one just don't 920 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:41,720 have the same level of exposure just by by the like rationale of 921 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:45,040 that. But also just that's why I've 922 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,840 been looking or not even looking. 923 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,480 I just be noticing it because you I could be having 924 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,960 conformational bias. It is no secret that I had a 925 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,800 burnout. I was pushing way harder than I 926 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,360 normally did and I am very thankful that I found like a lot 927 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,400 of the parts of the game that are different and have been 928 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,320 engaging me in a different way. So I don't feel as bad. 929 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:15,880 I did not do anywhere near like. I think I did two dungeons for 930 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:22,200 mythic plus last week where earlier in the season I was 931 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,880 doing 1620 mythic plus dungeons right? 932 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:33,200 I did not raid at all last week, but that meant that like this 933 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,200 week, when the reset came, I was like, oh, you know what I'm 934 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,840 going to do? I'm going to go pug Dream Rift. 935 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,840 And I pugged her Dream Rift and I got the trinket that I wanted. 936 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,280 And I was like, yeah, that's great. 937 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,800 And I got to like, walk, walk away. 938 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,520 I won't be rating again for the rest of this week. 939 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:53,320 One of my teams did not even do the like achievement run after 940 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,040 we cleared, which is something that like has always happened. 941 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,000 I can't remember the last time that we didn't go back and get 942 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,920 the achievements so we can get that cool little mount or 943 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,920 whatever it is for the glory of the Raider achievement. 944 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,880 And like not all of this can be just me. 945 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:20,120 I again, I look, I listen to different shows and I see the 946 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,480 feedback that their community is giving. 947 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:28,360 And part of is this like, yeah, no, this, this didn't interest 948 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,640 me. Like I like, let's say World of 949 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,880 Warcraft hasn't declined at all. I'm not going to make some sort 950 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,600 of argument that World of Warcraft has declined. 951 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,600 Let's say World Warcraft hasn't declined at all. 952 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,320 There are still things that build up that you want to engage 953 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,880 with. And just for the novelty of it, 954 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,720 you want the change of pace. Oh man, I haven't read this book 955 00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:57,440 that I really wanted to read. I wanted to binge this Netflix 956 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:03,440 series or this anime or I wanted to go hang out with my friends 957 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,680 in like, I don't know, Chicago or wherever, right? 958 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:13,000 A lot of this stuff builds up and there are, there have been 959 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,040 all those times when I'm, I know that you had this conversation 960 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,520 with Sean where you're like, Oh yeah, sorry friend, I can't 961 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,080 take, I can't do something on Thursday nights and Monday 962 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,800 nights because that's when, because that's when I have 963 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:28,840 plans. What plans? 964 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,080 I don't know. How do I tell this to a non 965 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:39,800 gamer, right? My ex partner I was talking with 966 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:43,800 and they were like, oh, you don't talk about like you don't 967 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,360 talk about this anymore. They're like, Oh, well, you 968 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,640 know, I didn't think you ever really took that seriously, that 969 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,560 sort of stuff. And her response was like, but I 970 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,440 really loved hearing you be passionate about something, 971 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,760 Right. And so, like, part of it is on 972 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,600 us where we, like, maybe go like, oh, I don't want to talk 973 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,600 about my nerdy stuff. And part of it is like that. 974 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,560 Yeah. There are people out there that 975 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,000 like, there are many things that buy for your time. 976 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,000 And in this world where we've got like, social media and all 977 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,600 this stuff that is trying to, like keep you locked in, it 978 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,760 really sucks that World of Warcraft is trying to do that, 979 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,840 too. Yeah, and they were getting so 980 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,280 good about doing the opposite, like the whole thing they've 981 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,760 been pushing for such a long time. 982 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,520 It's like we understand that the population of World of Warcraft 983 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,440 players is changing. We understand that you guys are 984 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,720 no longer, you know, the 20 something college students who 985 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,520 want, you know, the like, addicting game that, you know, 986 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,600 we were no longer the team. That's like bragging about our 987 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,600 like, getting calls from our players saying, you know, like 988 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,480 their wife is mad at them because they never see her 989 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,680 anymore. Like, you know, the Lex. 990 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,800 The Lex wild widows refrain that we have here. 991 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,520 Yeah, I remember now. Right, right. 992 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:11,520 And I think so. So I and I, I think that there 993 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,400 was a very surprising shift. We even they were still saying 994 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,800 the same thing, right? They were saying like, well, no, 995 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,360 we won't, you know, we don't want to be making you guys feel 996 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,320 like you have to play all the time. 997 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,960 We don't want you guys to feel like World of Warcraft is a 998 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,560 thing you are constantly doing. And then they started just 999 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,640 pumping out content. And I mean, like the other thing 1000 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,000 is what is this? I don't know the guy who said 1001 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,120 this, but the like, you know, late game is late until it's 1002 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,360 released. A bad game is bad forever, 1003 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,960 right? The girl Miyamato. 1004 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,760 Right, right. So I probably. 1005 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,760 Pronounced that. I didn't even try. 1006 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,440 So I, you know, we complained about this 112.0 point 5. 1007 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,720 So I don't mean to be dead horse, but I'm not as excited 1008 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,880 about 12.0 point 7 because 12.0 point 5 was so nothing and I was 1009 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,120 so excited about it and I didn't live up to what I was hoping. 1010 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,040 And so now I'm kind of like, OK, whatever. 1011 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,680 And I mean also 12.0 point 7 is coming so soon. 1012 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,800 I don't have time to be, there's no height built. 1013 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,360 I learned anyway. Anyway I well and OK. 1014 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,080 Am I stupid? Wasn't there supposed to be a 1015 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,320 mega delve coming? Is that 12.1? 1016 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,480 12.1 Yeah, yeah. OK. 1017 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,480 I just thought it was sooner than it was, no? 1018 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,320 But like, I, I think you're right. 1019 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,720 You've got like a situation where we're, we're, we're not 1020 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,840 getting that absence makes the heart grow fonder. 1021 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,720 It's like, I just, I want to, I want some time to miss Wow. 1022 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,120 I want some time to like, do something else, be like, man, 1023 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,240 like when's the next rated cup coming out? 1024 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,640 I want, I want to get into it Like, I want time to like be 1025 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,200 able to build anticipation rather than be like, oh crap, 1026 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,280 I've got a week. I've got five days to get the 1027 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,040 last two bosses down before they bring out the next boss. 1028 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,920 Right, right, exactly. When things are coming out, it's 1029 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,280 also not like, oh, I get to go log in again and like go play 1030 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,440 this cool thing. It's oh Jesus, OK, I guess I'll 1031 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,920 fit this in. I will. 1032 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,200 Like, you know, I was going to do 12 like 12 delves today, but 1033 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,800 that's OK, I'll go do original site instead, right. 1034 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,160 So it's not new stuff that's bringing me in. 1035 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,920 It's more stuff to add to my plate and then it's not fun. 1036 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,640 It's like, oh great, now this, you know, grinding. 1037 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,600 Nothing just came out that I have to either deal with or I'm 1038 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,680 going to just ignore entirely. They replace the Wow chores, the 1039 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,240 checklist of stuff you needed to do before you could get to the 1040 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,160 thing that you liked with so much of the thing that you liked 1041 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,960 that it's too much of a good thing. 1042 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,880 Almost to see is weird. Like I'm mashing up analogies 1043 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:54,200 here, but I like Mythic plus. I like rating, but now I am 1044 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,320 instead of being done at a 12, which I had done weeks ago, I 1045 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:06,920 want to push for a sixteens and I want to push for like that 1% 1046 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,520 and instead of getting my OTC and be like, ah, we can't make 1047 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,080 the jump to mythic. Well, now fucks mythic is here. 1048 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,600 So why don't you push a little bit longer? 1049 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:27,200 So like, you know, that entire individualism of like you got to 1050 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,680 restrain yourself and you got to do just what you want. 1051 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:34,120 And everything is very true here where where I could say like, 1052 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,960 yeah, no, like I don't, I shouldn't be working on this and 1053 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,000 I shouldn't be touching this because I have other priorities, 1054 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,880 but they just keep shoveling it at me. 1055 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:52,400 And that just sort of diminishes the impact, the resonance, the 1056 01:01:52,400 --> 01:02:02,160 like the want of any of it just because now, like if in 12, like 1057 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,120 in 12.1, there's going to be like a new list of dungeons. 1058 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,760 And at no point, like if I'm thinking it now, do I want to be 1059 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,800 here staring at 8 weeks from now learning another set of 1060 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,520 dungeons. I'm going to make man like that 1061 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,040 that, and I don't like that. I I want to be like, oh cool new 1062 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,320 season, though, cool. What's going to happen and part 1063 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:29,240 of it also is that they have systemized things so much that 1064 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,320 like when something new comes out, it doesn't really feel new. 1065 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:39,920 It feels like more of the same. The affixes in the next dungeon 1066 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,000 are going to be the Zealot Afixes, so it's more of the 1067 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,760 same. The raid bosses, hopefully 1068 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,640 they're new and interesting and exciting, but like they just 1069 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,880 keep coming at me and like Spore fall just feels like dream rift 1070 01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:01,520 with like a slight A slight remix. 1071 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,320 And yeah, the mechanics might be different, but if I if they were 1072 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,360 to have said, Oh, we're just going to put Spore Spore fall 1073 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,760 into the dream rift as like a second boss in there and release 1074 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,720 the same time, I actually think I would have been more satisfied 1075 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,400 with that and had the time away from it. 1076 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,040 It's very weird. I don't. 1077 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,800 Know there, there is a little bit of a Simpsons problem there 1078 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,000 where World of Warcraft has been getting published for so long 1079 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,560 that there is kind of to some degree a limited number of 1080 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,760 mechanics you can do in boss fights. 1081 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,440 There's a limited number of aesthetics you can take, you 1082 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,760 know, so, so you will eventually start to feel like you're 1083 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,120 cycling back. I do. 1084 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,560 I do kind of agree though, and I mean, not, not to continuously 1085 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,680 beat a dead horse. It feels like things got a 1086 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,560 little worse when people, when dev started having a little less 1087 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,880 time. You know, for example, I'm 1088 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,840 thinking a little bit of the, just as I recently did at the 1089 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:06,920 Wind Runner Firebot, like Romeo and Juliet, That is, it's the, 1090 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,040 the one from shadow lands, right? 1091 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,000 It's the the same concept of like, oh, and this one's going 1092 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,000 to throw a hook and you have to use the hook to get the other 1093 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,320 guy. And let's get it proper spelled. 1094 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,400 She's going to yell, Oh, you idiot, how could you do this to 1095 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,720 me? And like, you know, same sort of 1096 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,760 vibes, which again, part of it is a Simpsons five. 1097 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,880 Part of it is, I don't know, right. 1098 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,480 Like, you know, I, I guess we'll do this. 1099 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,240 But yeah, no, I, I, I do feel that too. 1100 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:38,720 It feels like it's easy to feel like things are a little bit 1101 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,800 derivative. OK. 1102 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,560 So then just because I don't want this to be completely 1103 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,840 complaining, we've we've talked about the the the issue. 1104 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,400 Now obviously one thing that we'll throw out there is give 1105 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,840 the developers more time, give us a different cadence. 1106 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,800 We've we've talked about that. I'm snapping fingers as I'm 1107 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,520 saying this sort of thing like telling myself go sister. 1108 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:09,960 Anyways, what other things could they do to like bring that 1109 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,760 midnight magic back? Because like we were excited at 1110 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:17,920 the beginning of this and it's not like it's a lack of content, 1111 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:25,480 but like what? What could they do to to make 1112 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,640 things better in the next couple of releases before we go into 1113 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,880 the last item? I think focus heavily on depth 1114 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,680 and that was the really big complaint I had about 12 point 1115 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,720 0.5. Everything felt shallow. 1116 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,880 And I wish that I wish that we had more virtual sites coming 1117 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,320 out at a time, right? In the sense of like, I wish 1118 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,400 there was more diversity, right? I've complained deeply when 12 1119 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,480 point 0.5 came out that like it was one thing that I'm supposed 1120 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,320 to grind over and over again, right? 1121 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:58,440 So when you're releasing things, give us fewer better things that 1122 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,280 you can really dig into and really sink your teeth into and 1123 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:09,280 really have a good time with. I think be OK with just story 1124 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,760 patches. I think that that was a thing 1125 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,400 that they did like actually let, sorry, let me actually restate 1126 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,560 this. I think that one thing that was 1127 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,480 really positive they did in the past is they let patches be 1128 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,240 about certain things, right? So not everyone was going to be 1129 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,760 happy. Not everyone was going to have a 1130 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,520 thing at a certain patch. And so, yeah, sometimes you 1131 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,120 would have a patch you could kind of sit out, right? 1132 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,080 They'd have story patches. And if you're not a story 1133 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,200 person, like, all right, you don't have to play it, right? 1134 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,600 They would have patches with goofy little mess around 1135 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,960 mechanics. And if you don't really want to 1136 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,480 do a goofy little mess around mechanic, like, OK, then don't 1137 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,680 do it right. They would have patches where 1138 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,280 they're, you know, releasing a new boss or a new dungeon or a 1139 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,960 new like mega dungeon or like something like that. 1140 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,880 And if that's not your content, like, OK, you don't do it, 1141 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,320 right. So even if it's not that you're 1142 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,000 getting fewer patches, it's that you can kind of skip them, 1143 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,720 right? Maybe this point like middle 1144 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,600 patches is not for you and you don't need to worry about. 1145 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:09,800 So you get that time off by virtue of the fact that not 1146 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,400 every patch is for you. And so you them. 1147 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,280 And I think that also allows them to really dig into like, 1148 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,280 hey, we're only doing story. So we're going to write a really 1149 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,880 good story. We're only doing whatever, we're 1150 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,000 only doing dastardly duos. So we're going to really dig it. 1151 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,160 And I know dastardly duos within the new patch cycle. 1152 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:34,240 So that's a bad example. But like allowing it to be this 1153 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,800 is the like the depth of thing that we are releasing. 1154 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:37,720 And if you don't like it, that's fine. 1155 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,400 Go do something else. Take your break, continue 1156 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,880 grinding out your old content. Who cares? 1157 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,360 Live your dream, right? But if you do like it, it's 1158 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,480 really good what you have handed to you. 1159 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:53,680 Yeah, I I want to go 2 separate ways with that. 1160 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,400 OK. I I think that one of the things 1161 01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:03,000 that previous patches had done that we don't really see, I 1162 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,400 mean, like I'm I'm not going to judge revelation before it comes 1163 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:12,240 out, but we didn't see in 12 point O 5 was the sort of story 1164 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:18,160 beat that like made this feel like less of a throwaway action. 1165 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:23,200 So what happened in 12 point O 5 is that you get a little 1166 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,800 breadcrumb thing that brings you to decor duels, you get a little 1167 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,560 breadcrumb thing that brings you to rituals, you get a little 1168 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:35,520 breadcrumb thing that brings you to the the assault and nothing 1169 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,560 comes of it. It's just, it's just like enough 1170 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:44,920 of a story to justify its existence and like thread beer 1171 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,279 in a way. It's like, oh, hello, I am the 1172 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,080 the enchantress. I am the enchantress Alex Trasa, 1173 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,920 blah blah, blah. It's like, wait, Alex Trasa was 1174 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,279 a dragon. Sorry, I mean, insert name here. 1175 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,040 And I'm I've enchanted the chairs to dance around. 1176 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,600 And so now you're going to do Rockstar on it on stage. 1177 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:11,479 It's like, OK, so you just want to do Rockstar in Wow and that's 1178 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,640 what we got. And so it feels so incredibly 1179 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:23,640 like just thrown in yes, because none of it centered and all of 1180 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,000 and like I have no idea why we're doing the diving in off of 1181 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,680 Solomon. Like you, I could not I could 1182 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:39,040 not ever explain it. And I think that they, if they 1183 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,840 focused on one thing like you're saying and attached like a 1184 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,960 genuine story to it, it doesn't have to be a continuation of 1185 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,880 what's going on with Xela Taff or anything. 1186 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:56,280 You could have just a character that's like, oh, I'm a gnome and 1187 01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:01,800 I'm coming to to Silver Moon. And I really want to give these 1188 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,520 guys cheer because they're like they're under assault and stuff 1189 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,360 and have that as like a genuine little small little lovely story 1190 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,920 that they put the the character arc and emotional weight behind 1191 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,720 it. So it feels like the core duels 1192 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,440 has some weight behind it. And then that character can come 1193 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:23,040 back when you do the the next decor duel something or or 1194 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,400 anything like that. One thing they did in, I would 1195 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:33,520 say some parts of the War Within is that you would have like a 1196 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:39,400 bit of story that would go through through parts of this. 1197 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:46,120 So I want to say things like let's skip over anything leading 1198 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,080 us in the Mechagon because I really did not enjoy those. 1199 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:58,400 But I will say that they would have things that were as a weak 1200 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,920 point, The entire thing with the Nerubians coming back, like, I 1201 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,600 don't, I don't know what happened after that. 1202 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,040 Oh, you got to fight them off because they're decided they're 1203 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,880 like leftovers from from this. It's like, yes, they definitely 1204 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:19,920 were leftovers, but you would also have the Kieran Tor trying 1205 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,440 to like figure out what they're doing after the destruction of 1206 01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:24,840 Daleran. And that felt like a good story 1207 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,920 element. If they had added a mechanical 1208 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,800 thing after that, I would have, I would have accepted that 1209 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,560 mechanical thing is like actually necessary. 1210 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,680 But they don't have any of those of those story movements. 1211 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,400 So I would say maybe use those to help justify that some of the 1212 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,000 stuff. But when you throw in things 1213 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,120 like the dastardly duels because you brought that one up, it was 1214 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,000 like, Oh yeah, we're doing Destiny duels for two weeks. 1215 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:55,760 OK, That feels really weird and kind of takes you out of it. 1216 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,760 That's the kind of stuff where you can get away with it if it's 1217 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,560 the Wow anniversary thing, which also had more story in it with a 1218 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:09,480 detective thing, but it's far less acceptable or like not 1219 01:12:09,480 --> 01:12:14,400 acceptable, just far more jarring when suddenly we're 1220 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:20,880 going out and dealing with the architects or the new 1221 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,040 archaeologists in Dragonflight because why? 1222 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,000 And it leads nowhere and you're just left wondering being like, 1223 01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:30,160 I guess this was something to do. 1224 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,720 And so maybe take some time to make it a little bit more more 1225 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,120 coherent and that would help people care. 1226 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,560 Yes, absolutely. I think that would help to make 1227 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,640 it feel connected and especially make it feel less like, I mean, 1228 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:47,360 I know I'm on record saying I feel like the .1 patch is kind 1229 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,080 of the like, oh, and we have a down the middle story between 1230 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,120 the beginning and the end of this, right? 1231 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:56,160 I think I do think continuity in general would help, and I think 1232 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,120 that especially with the little patches, making it make sense 1233 01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:01,920 makes things feel more meaningful. 1234 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:10,320 Yeah, but for our fast listeners, do you have a way to 1235 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:15,240 make the past content better feel more important? 1236 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,160 Let us know. Join us in the FAST Discord at 1237 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,600 Bit dot Elway, the Bit dot LY slash Fast Discord. 1238 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,040 And until next time guys, may all your hits be good.