1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,680 Anyway, she has informed me that no, I am not in fact the star of 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,360 a worldwide phenomenon television show, and that I 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,920 should stop feeling so. Eric. 4 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:17,840 For Lauderon. For the Karen Tour for Pandaria. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,600 For calendar to the. Burning region. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,560 For Gilnaeus, but has. Not done for the Lich King. 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,320 For the. Sindori for the alliance for. 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:41,360 The Horn for Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,160 another episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, Manny, 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,840 and I am joined once again by the other two parts of the 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Triumphant. First coming from sunny parts of 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,720 the US, we have Lex. Hello Lex, how are you and how 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,160 has the World of Warcraft been treating you? 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,560 I am great Manny. The World of Warcraft's been 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,920 treating me very well. I realized the reason that I was 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,360 parsing with the tanks in raids because I had not updated my 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,320 talents since 11.1. And I'm sure everyone listening 18 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,480 to this is saying who doesn't update their talents until 11.1. 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,200 But I believe that there's one person listening who also forgot 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,520 to update their talents and is sitting there like oh wait 21 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,000 that's why I'm parsing with the tanks. 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,800 So if you're listening, you're welcome. 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,280 Update your talents. So your talents weren't that bad 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,920 off all the way through Undermine. 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,520 So the first of all, it's, it's possible, but I actually don't 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,000 update my talent since 11.0. I the the at least with Demon 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Hunter, the way that the tear set hit us was so heavily on 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320 ammo aura that you kind of needed to reset your talents to 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,240 make immolation Aura like very like more frequent, like a way 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,080 you can make it go twice instead of once. 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,320 And I hadn't done that. So I was doing immolation aura 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,040 very rarely. And I also in my head it was 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,280 still a relatively low priority in the rotation. 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,480 It was kind of like and if you think about it, you hit ammo 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,520 aura. In fact, actually in my brain I 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,080 was still back in 11 point whatever where ammo or the point 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,280 is that you do it with your big pre metamorphosis and pre Ivy 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,080 rotation. So I frequently fully forgot. 39 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,520 There's a lot of reasons that I was doing poorly, but I now have 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,960 four piece. I have the 30% ratio wrap boots 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,600 and I also have updated talents. So now if I'm bad this raid 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,200 night, that's embarrassing, but I can feel better about the 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,120 entire rest of the season. Hey, I mean you put you put the 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,160 effort in to improve. So like, we'll see what that 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,400 that performance is. I'm jealous of you. 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,760 I don't have my boots yet. I've gotten 0 drops out of the 47 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,680 raid that I, that I have rolled on because my RNG apparently is 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,240 crap. But you know, that's in the raid 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,920 particularly because I have been pushing for Mythic plus and so 50 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:01,200 forth and getting that and hopefully it's been balancing 51 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,560 out. My vaults have not been 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,320 horrible. So I've been enjoying that. 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,520 What about you, Sean? How has the this first little 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,400 bit of season 3 of The Ghost of Koresh been? 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,400 And I, I mean, you've got two different regions and multiple 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,240 different characters that you play. 57 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:26,240 Have you been getting lucky overall or how's it been going 58 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,400 for you? Things have been really good 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,120 actually my whole life. Everything like not my whole 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,840 life as in hold on my dogs, under my chair. 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Sorry. Dog conscious is great. 62 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Yeah, my dog. Yeah. 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,760 Have you ever have? Have things in life for you ever 64 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,080 gone so well that you questioned whether or not you were like the 65 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,640 the main character in The Truman Show? 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,280 Yes, actually not like main character in The Truman Show, 67 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,360 but just sort of like a how am I this lucky? 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,360 How is my life? I'm really glad that you're 69 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,160 feeling that. That's where I'm at. 70 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,480 Like everything, we found a new. We decided we wanted to move 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,920 within like 2 days. We found a host that is 72 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,000 absolutely perfect for us in every single possible way. 73 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,040 Put an offer on it. There was three other, two 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,360 other. There was two other offers with 75 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,480 three total. They countered one of the other 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,960 offers because it didn't have the condition of needing a house 77 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,160 sale, which ours does. The people that had put that 78 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,600 offer and I guess got offended that their offer was countered 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,400 and that they were now in this bidding, quote UN quote bidding 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,360 war. It wasn't a bidding war. 81 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,360 I just immediately offered exactly what the person was 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,280 asking. I didn't try to undercut it all 83 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:42,200 because I don't like to haggle. And so that that deal fell 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,560 through and they ended up accepting hours. 85 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,200 So and it's just a gorgeous house. 86 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,080 We love it, we're super happy. So now we're selling our house. 87 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,680 All that's happening. That's great. 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:56,240 My EU team, which I I joined as a helper in a mute or so I left 89 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,320 in season 4 of Dragonflight and came back to help again with 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,480 answer wreck. So can court start with answer I 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,840 Prague with to help them with and then took over as their raid 92 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,760 lead for Undermine. And this was my second tier as 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,280 the raid lead there. And like my third tier, I guess 94 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:15,680 4th tier if you count the two tiers where I helped them on the 95 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,880 final boss. But every tier that I've helped 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,360 this team, they've gotten better. 97 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:28,840 So we just got AOTC on Sunday past, which is the third week 98 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:31,480 reset, which is the fastest they've ever gotten it. 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,600 They're they're and they are an AOTC only team. 100 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,880 So it's not like this team of mythic blasters that got AOTC 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,160 like they are. They're a team that only goes 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,160 for a OTCI think in I got to think I think they got the 103 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,400 answer one on week 7. So we like cut the time in half 104 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,240 basically or more than cut the time in half for for the end of 105 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,880 this year. So that was really exciting. 106 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,800 The sad news is it's probably my last raid tier with them. 107 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,160 I have a lot of other things coming up that are going to make 108 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,520 me really busy. So we haven't told the rest of 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,280 the team yet, but the the GM knows that this is probably and 110 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:09,640 the other officers know that this is probably the last year 111 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,920 that I will have the bandwidth to be able to raid with them. 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,320 But they'll be fine. They're in a really good spot. 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,640 And then my NA team is four of eight and I think we killed the 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,200 Forge Weaver, Weaver. But on also on Sunday. 115 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,120 All of my raid days are Thursdays and Sundays. 116 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,800 But our one of our main tanks missed it. 117 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,840 She was at Dragon Con, so I had to fill in. 118 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:31,520 She had done all the Prague I had to come fill in and we got 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 the forge Weaver kill, which was great. 120 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Felt really good to step in and not make a bunch of mistakes and 121 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,920 not have to relearn the fight for everybody and get that kill. 122 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:42,160 And then we did some fractals pulls. 123 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,520 We will kill fractals this week, I'm certain. 124 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,520 And they're leaving me in for fractals because I was there for 125 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,000 all of the Prague for fractals. So my vault next week and 126 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,680 because of the way the raid works, if you kill a boss, you 127 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,840 get all of the loot. You're eligible for all the loot 128 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:59,680 from all of the bosses previous to that boss in the vault. 129 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,920 So I'm I'm in for Sentinel and then I'm in for fractulas, which 130 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,280 will give me one vault slot. But that vault slot could be 131 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:08,480 loot from fractulas Soul hunters who we haven't killed yet 132 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,880 because they're technically before fractulas in the raid. 133 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,160 Soul Hunters, Fractulas, Forge Weaver, Lumithar, who I haven't 134 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,560 killed yet, Soul Binder who I haven't killed yet, and and 135 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Plexus Sentinel who I have killed. 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,480 So that's pretty exciting stuff. Yeah, things are going good. 137 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,880 And I had really good news at work about a podcast that we 138 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,800 started and that's that is continue. 139 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,880 That's the show that's going to be continuing with anyway. 140 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,200 It's. Been like a great whoa, don't 141 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,440 don't skip past that. People should be aware of and 142 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,360 checking out the weekly no lever. 143 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,800 That is the other podcast that she's doing with Raider IO had 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,400 some phenomenal guests so far. I think the last one was with 145 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,000 Dan, Mr. GM. Yeah. 146 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,320 And yeah, so do make sure you check that out. 147 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,040 That is so awesome that everything's going so well for 148 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,200 you. I'm beaming. 149 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Just like with like reflected Glory. 150 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,200 It's like, that's so cool. That's so cool. 151 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,160 I have for you. It's great. 152 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,440 And like I so I actually and I went to high school together and 153 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,640 I had a huge crush on her. And then we went our separate 154 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,160 ways for 20 years and then reconnected in 2020. 155 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,840 So as I was having this realization, we were driving 156 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,400 home from Prince Edward Island after looking after making the 157 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 offer on this house and everything was just going so 158 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,400 well. I looked at her and I was like, 159 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,600 are you like an actress that they brought back into the show 160 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,360 to keep me here and if so, demand more money. 161 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,280 Anyway, she has informed me that no, I am not in fact the star of 162 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,000 a worldwide phenomenon television show, and that I 163 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,200 should stop feeling so arrogant. Well, that sounds like something 164 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,160 that somebody who's trying to keep you in a worldwide 165 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,640 phenomenon TV show would say in. Fact, Somebody like pulls Lex 166 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,760 out of camera and she gets replaced by a look alike. 167 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,080 Yeah, Lex too. This one remembers to change 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,560 your talents though, so everyone's happy. 169 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,600 Yeah, yeah, that's that's right. Anyway, that was a long answer. 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,440 Warcraft's going great. Everything's going that. 171 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,200 That is awesome. I'm really glad for that. 172 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,360 So with everything coming up, Sean, unfortunately the hour is 173 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,000 getting late and midnight is approaching and it seems, it 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,160 seems that things aren't going so well for Blizzard because 175 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,560 we've been getting a lot of news and a lot of conflicting signals 176 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:34,800 with the news. I know a lot of the conversation 177 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,120 has been about maybe the miscommunications, the 178 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,400 conflicting information, the fact that some panels were not 179 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,120 aired or were aired in a weird order, that it's just generally 180 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,400 being hard to get the information correctly, 181 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,360 accurately out of Games Kong. And of course, last episode we 182 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,560 started on our journey trying to parse through that and get that 183 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:02,840 information out to you. And we're going to continue with 184 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,360 that today. Today specifically, we're going 185 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,680 to be focusing on a number of articles that Blizzard has put 186 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:12,680 out that is based on the information that we got on Games 187 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,560 Con. But it seems the troubles aren't 188 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:21,000 quite done yet because we have already seen some mistakes and 189 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,320 redactions and corrections with these articles. 190 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,400 So the first article. Oh yeah, I was just going to 191 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,400 just real quick, not just to Blizzard, but to like everyone 192 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,240 everywhere. Fun fact is that like marketing 193 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,680 is a degree in college for a reason. 194 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Like you actually want like a marketing and social media team. 195 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,280 It's not just it's not just like a money thing. 196 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,520 So just not sure where that certainly not Blizzard centric 197 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,040 or anything, but maybe maybe consider if you're thinking 198 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,400 about not having a marketing team, don't do that anyway, 199 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Manny, we're talking about World of Warcraft. 200 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,960 Okay, so the first article we're going to talk about is the user 201 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,640 interface article. I have been really looking 202 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,040 forward to something based on this because this is them 203 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,960 bringing in a lot of the stuff that we currently handle and 204 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,920 weak cores and add-ons into the base UI. 205 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,880 And they had said at Gamescon the things that they were going 206 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,920 to be targeting next in line to sort of bring that bring that 207 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,000 up. And that includes things like 208 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,240 name bars, that includes things like timers. 209 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:41,160 The this article includes that boss alerts and just some 210 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,440 general quality of life. So Sean, do you want to give us 211 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,680 the rundown of this real quick? Yes, there's sure there's no new 212 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,880 news in any of these articles. It's all just information. 213 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Sorry, there's very little new news in in these posts. 214 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,400 It's information on Gamescon. But we do get one look at the 215 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,720 four different potential styles for the nameplates that you'll 216 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,800 get to choose from, presumably, and what they're doing to 217 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,000 indicate a important cast that you want to interrupt. 218 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,720 And it looks really good. I still have some concerns. 219 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,040 I'd love to make a list of like, here's the pros, here's the 220 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,360 cons. Maybe we'll do that. 221 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,200 But the name plates look like they're in the right direction. 222 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,240 They definitely still have some work to be done. 223 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,080 Do we want to break down the like the name plates or? 224 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,200 I do think we should break, break this down just because 225 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,480 like there's, there's a lot of details that if you miss it, you 226 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,640 might not realize what the effort that they're putting into 227 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:43,680 this. Yeah. 228 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,040 So let's first we'll just talk about there's four different 229 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,000 styles that it appears you can choose from. 230 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,360 One puts the enemy's name in the health bar, one puts it above 231 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,000 the health bar. And then along with that, you 232 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,280 can have the name of the cast below the health bar with either 233 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,920 of the name options or the name of the cast inside the cast bar 234 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,800 with either of the name options to give us four options for how 235 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,680 they look. And then a simple cast is just a 236 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:13,800 regular cast bar with the yellow Blizzard cast bar that you see 237 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,200 now. And an important cast adds a 238 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,920 little bit of flare, light flare to the outside of that to let 239 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,200 you know, hey, this is an important cast. 240 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:28,200 I think all of this is fine. In the very blurry image that 241 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,880 they shared that you struggle to read, you can see that there are 242 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:38,920 some options for things that you can select, including an aggro 243 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,680 display. So presumably they'll change 244 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:45,920 color based on aggro. You can add mob buffs, personal 245 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,640 debuffs and it looks like shared CC. 246 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,800 You could those are and they're in the image these they show you 247 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,520 where those would appear on the name frame. 248 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:58,440 And one thing I do want to shout out as being awesome in the in 249 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,400 game options, there is a preview where it is showing you what it 250 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,800 could potentially look like based on the selection you make. 251 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,480 I really hope this is dynamic and that it changes based off 252 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,360 the selections you make in the options so that you know before 253 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,840 you ever leave the options how it will look. 254 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,960 And then you can add enemy player debuffs, friendly player 255 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,080 debuffs. And then there's a simplified 256 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,440 nameplate option. So the good the pros, four 257 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,040 different styles of nameplates, how they look pro that you can 258 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,640 add player debuffs and mob buffs and shared CC to see those 259 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,840 things. I don't want to say that I think 260 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,240 that's all the brand and I guess pro it they look nice. 261 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,320 I think these are much more visually appealing than the 262 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,200 current raid frames. They they look much more akin to 263 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,640 what you would see from not bass player, but like a slightly 264 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,240 stylized player, but still very much keeping the Warcraft theme. 265 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,880 So that's the pros. Now I would like to say some 266 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,640 potential cons. We don't over certain that these 267 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,920 are cons because these name puts are still under development. 268 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,560 But as it stands right now, we don't see any way for us to 269 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:16,240 adjust what debuffs are tracked. It's just track debuffs or don't 270 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,000 track debuffs. And I got to tell you, I don't 271 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,080 need to track every single debuff from my class that 272 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,160 there's typically usually one or two that I want to track. 273 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Another option we don't see here is something that is very 274 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,400 popular in Plater is the option to recolor either the border of 275 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,720 the nameplate or the nameplate itself when a mob is affected by 276 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,000 something like Moonfire. Because when I'm tanking, I want 277 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,720 Moonfire on all the mobs. All of my names turn blue and 278 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,600 all of my health powers turn blue when they have Moonfire on 279 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,840 them so that way I know how to glance. 280 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Hey, this mob isn't at Moonfire. I need to put it on that one. 281 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,120 This doesn't have an option to do that yet. 282 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,440 It looks like the biggest one. The Casper's look great, but 283 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,680 they still don't say who they're targeting. 284 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,720 This is the number one biggest thing these need to do. 285 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,960 If it if it doesn't tell you it's targeting, you don't know 286 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,120 if you need to kick it for sure and you don't like it makes it 287 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,280 makes spell reflect absolutely useless without knowing who is 288 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,120 being targeted. And then the third thing that 289 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,800 could be a con, but I think there's a so it's it's coloring 290 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,600 of the name plates right now. If you use plater and use any of 291 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,120 the popular profiles, they color the name plates. 292 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,080 So regular mobs are red when you're fighting them if you have 293 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,920 aggro, if you're DPS, if you have aggro, they're green if you 294 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,760 don't have aggro. And that's happiness. 295 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,040 But they'll make like casters a light blue color, for example. 296 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,080 So everybody knows, hey, this is a caster mob. 297 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,120 It's going to be set to need to kick. 298 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,120 They'll make priority kill targets purple, for example. 299 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,800 So you know, hey, I want to, I want to priority kill this, this 300 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,520 mob that we're fighting, you know, if a mob does a frontal, 301 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 it's a darker blue. So you, you know, these things, 302 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,760 you color code these things. I don't expect that Blizzard is 303 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,240 going to give us the option that and that. 304 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,359 So that's done through Plater via Ahmad that specifically 305 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,160 recolors each individual enemy nameplate. 306 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,520 It doesn't do it in groups. It's not like all casters get 307 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,359 this. It recolors each individual 308 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,119 enemy. And I think that level of 309 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,880 granularity is going to be more than Blizzard wants to give to 310 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,599 the majority of players. But what I would really, really, 311 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:26,280 really like to have is an option that we can turn on or off where 312 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,960 it is set colors that Blizzard picks that denote the same 313 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,840 things. And you know, Blizzard has 314 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,160 decided casters will be blue. Blizzard has decided priority 315 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,840 kill mobs, nameplates will be purple. 316 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,520 I would really, really like that option. 317 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,040 And if they don't do it, then hopefully Plater still has 318 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,440 access to reskin at the very least the color of a nameplate 319 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,720 for these mobs. I think we're heading in a good 320 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,520 direction. But those especially the 321 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,040 targeting, if you're listening FAZ Dev, it's like the number 322 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,480 one, it's, it's, it's the number one thing you have to tell us 323 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,560 who is being targeted by these casts. 324 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,280 It has like it absolutely has to say that or these name plates 325 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,200 remain useless. In that particular situation, 326 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,800 yes, yeah, yeah, I, I agree with you that there's a lot of things 327 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,520 that we haven't seen that that people definitely use. 328 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,360 I know that they have said that some things will not be 329 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:25,920 contextually aware, but there are some things where it is 330 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,440 going to have like that situational awareness. 331 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,680 They already talked about, like how if you're tanking, it will 332 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,600 tell you if a particular mob gets like behind you so you're 333 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080 not able to parry or block, right. 334 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,760 And that that is a situational awareness. 335 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,520 It'll change as you turn to face it. 336 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,440 It'll change as you've turned to face away from it. 337 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,720 So they are giving us some awareness off that, which means 338 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 like which which situational awareness are they not going to 339 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,000 give us? And what do they find is going 340 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,400 to be too much information is a question that they are going to 341 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,600 have to either come out and ask us or it's going to be when 342 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,240 we're on the alpha or when we're testing this that they're going 343 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,760 to be. There's going to be a deluge of 344 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,120 people who say, hey Blizzard, but what about this, right? 345 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,520 And that is part of like the building of these things. 346 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:26,440 If it is like the cool down tracker and it's where it's like 347 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,600 this is just version 1 and we're going to get additional versions 348 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,480 before they start restricting stuff. 349 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,560 I like this a lot because it is a much more complete looking 350 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,600 version one than that cooldown manager ever was on it as it is 351 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,280 currently in game. Flex. 352 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,120 What do you what do you think about these name bars in 353 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,040 particular? Yeah, I agree. 354 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,080 I really, the thing that I really want to see live before I 355 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,880 have an opinion on them is how it's going to display the aggro. 356 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Because one thing that's kind of standing out to me is the name 357 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,960 plates are better, but I don't know that I would say they're 358 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,560 like highly readable. One of the first things that I 359 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,480 noticed when I saw this article, and you're going to have to look 360 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,880 at the article to to believe me, is. 361 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,520 So they give you the options that Sean listed out, right. 362 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,120 You can either have the the enemy name in the health or 363 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,000 outside of the health. You can either have the cast 364 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,920 name outside the cast or in the cast. 365 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,160 And I understand this is going to be like toggle on and off. 366 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,960 So it's not like they're forcing me to do this. 367 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,640 The cast name in the cast is, is absolutely unintelligible. 368 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,760 The way that they chose to display this like you cannot. 369 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,480 I know what it says because I can see it in other places. 370 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,640 You can't read it. And so the, the fact that they 371 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,520 published it so in it makes me worried, right? 372 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,400 It makes me a little bit worried that they're either going to 373 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,960 give options. They can say, look, we gave you 374 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,160 an option without really testing whether it's like visible and 375 00:20:51,160 --> 00:21:00,040 understandable or it's going to remain like, I guess that it 376 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,080 confused me as to why they published that option to begin 377 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,320 with. And that scares me. 378 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720 But I might be reading a little bit too much into an option that 379 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,880 I do not have to pick. So again, I don't have that. 380 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,120 That's my big thing is that right now, reading aggro on 381 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:18,080 World of Warcraft's name plates is essentially not possible. 382 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,720 And especially as a, a relatively new tank who doesn't 383 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,400 immediately have the sense of like how to gather groups 384 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,880 quickly, how to identify what's away from me, that is to me the 385 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,000 most important thing they need to do. 386 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,400 They need to make aggro very visually obvious. 387 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,440 Like Sean said, if you get a name plate add on almost 388 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,960 universally, they they change colour. 389 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:43,400 Like it is a drastic difference when you have aggro and don't 390 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,640 have aggro. And I'm guessing they're going 391 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,480 to do something like that, but they haven't shown me. 392 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,360 So that to me is my like. I feel like I can't make a call 393 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:51,640 on this until I have that information. 394 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Yeah, I I definitely agree, Lex. Readability, how quickly you can 395 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:03,440 parse through this information is as important as how what 396 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,920 information they're giving it to you. 397 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,440 John, you're saying color-coded, Lex, you're saying color-coded. 398 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,200 That is a big thing where you can just like quickly at a 399 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,440 glance, say like, oh, that bar is blue. 400 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,720 I know what that that is. Rather than having to read, oh, 401 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,160 that bar says the Ramas sorcerer. 402 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Oh, it's a caster that is that's definitely something. 403 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,000 I do think that there is a number of things that we're not 404 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,040 going to see in this article. That is going to be stuff that 405 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,560 like I would say, Oh, well, that that's important, but like it's 406 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,560 never going to be in an article. The space between bars, how 407 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,240 close they float to to the characters. 408 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,280 That's all stuff that like I Finnick with when I am setting 409 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,080 up plater, I like if they're all stacked up on each other on each 410 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,520 other, are they like is it a cluster of bars? 411 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,240 Do they stack up in on top of each other? 412 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Do they, they only go so high in the, in the screen so that like 413 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,760 they're actually something I'm looking at instead of like 414 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,360 looking way up to the very margins of my of my monitor. 415 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,280 So like those are all things that are things that plater and 416 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,080 other add-ons have added in that Blizzard may not have 417 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,320 considered. So we got to, we will definitely 418 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,400 look at that. I also think that there's stuff 419 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,520 that they've put in that they haven't even shown us. 420 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,920 Like the important cast has that flare, but I don't expect that 421 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960 flare to be a static thing. I expect that to be animated. 422 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,200 And if it's animated, that will draw my attention way faster 423 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:38,160 than if it is just like that flare and nothing and nothing 424 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,080 moving. Like that's sort of like a, oh, 425 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,720 did I notice that that that bar had like a little bit of extra 426 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,800 jagged spikes or was it like that light flying out of the 427 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,920 edges? Because one thing will get my 428 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,440 attention way cleaner, way faster. 429 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,280 So there's a lot of things that like in an article in a picture, 430 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,720 you may not see. Whereas when you're playing it 431 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,640 or even seeing it in a video, when other people get into the 432 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,120 alpha, you'll be able to see it and you'll be able to like go 433 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,040 like, OK, you know what, that isn't that bad. 434 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:12,000 The important cast name actually changes color as it gets closer 435 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,760 to like casting. Well, that's amazing. 436 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,680 That sort of stuff it, I wish they would talk about it, but in 437 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,320 a quick article where it is very overhead like this, sometimes 438 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,920 you're going to get a lot more questions and you get answer and 439 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960 answers. And I think that's going to be a 440 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,240 repeating theme unfortunately, with these. 441 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,680 Yeah, it's too bad we didn't have like a dev video where they 442 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,400 just sat down and in real time went through the builds of these 443 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960 features in the states they're in and showed us the menus, 444 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,720 showed us what they look like in action as opposed to a single 445 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,040 static image in an article that was probably written by a bot. 446 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,920 All right, Next up, damage meters. 447 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,360 We're going to talk Damage mean name plates. 448 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:57,160 So like Manny said, better steak than Cooldown Manager was to 449 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,360 start. Still a lot of work that needs 450 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,280 to be done. Please give that feedback. 451 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,680 Get on the forms, hammer that feedback. 452 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Send it on Twitter. Do it positively. 453 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Do it, do it constructively. Don't just tell them it bad. 454 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,640 Let them know why it bad or why it could so damage meter. 455 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,320 So we're we're looking at damage there's next Blizzard is 456 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,800 building in their own damage meter system. 457 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:18,400 The number one biggest selling point of this, it's going to be 458 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,200 handled server side, which means it will be 100% accurate, which 459 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,280 means it will be more accurate than details is in most 460 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,280 situations. Anybody who's ever been in a 461 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440 raid where you have to split the raid knows that your damage 462 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,360 meter D your details damage meter is basically useless for 463 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,200 the duration of that fight because you're not getting the 464 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,800 information from the people that are away from you. 465 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,680 With all of this being handled server side by Blizzard, that 466 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,520 should be rectified. That's great news. 467 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,880 It looks like it has multiple things you can track. 468 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,720 So in the image they showed the top there's two boxes, 2 details 469 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,080 ask boxes. The top one says damage done and 470 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,000 it shows the damage being done by the party. 471 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,280 It looks pretty. I actually am really enjoying 472 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,760 this new art style for the UI blizzards come up with. 473 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,360 All we need now is a square mini map icon and we're golden. 474 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,960 And then the the box below that which after some talking with 475 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,760 friends we realized is the healing done box damage done but 476 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,280 it also says damage done it. Is the damage done you can't 477 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,080 see? That's right, Yeah, the reverse 478 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,320 damage done that's. Tracking elemental shaman doing 479 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,040 the third into healing day done. Yeah, but there is a drop down 480 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,360 menu, We can't see what other options there are. 481 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,240 So hopefully we can get things like interrupts, dispels, 482 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,000 deaths, damage taken, seeing those things are good and people 483 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,080 like to track that information. It helps you get better at the 484 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,720 game. A lot of people make the common 485 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,640 mistake of thinking that damage meters are toxic and the only 486 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,840 reason they exist is so that people can flame other people. 487 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,920 That's not true. People use details every key mid 488 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,360 pull sometimes to know what happened, why did somebody die 489 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:02,240 here, why was this damage so high, What mistake did I make? 490 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,040 What caused this wipe? And that information, at a quick 491 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,360 glance, without having to search through logs, comes from 492 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,200 details. So we'd like to see that. 493 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,960 Lots of options here. That looks like we can change 494 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,440 the numbers from right now. The vision it gives us is a 495 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,880 simplified version. I imagine there will be a more 496 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,400 detailed version. I'm not sure what that'll look 497 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,360 like because they don't show us. But some things that I would 498 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,080 like to see that I don't see in here. 499 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,440 Can I click the bar and get a detailed breakdown of where that 500 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,720 damage came from? Can I know what this elemental 501 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,280 shaman, what his damage breakdown was? 502 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,400 How much of this is chain lightning? 503 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,960 How much of this is Flame Lash? That's an elemental shaman 504 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,280 spell. Manny didn't correct me. 505 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,960 I must have. No, no, that's an enhancement 506 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,760 spell. Nice try though. 507 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,440 So close. It's lava Lash. 508 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,040 Flame Lash doesn't exist, but keep going. 509 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:54,120 Oh, fire tongue. OK, that's what we call Manny 510 00:27:54,120 --> 00:28:01,000 off the air. And so my, my hope is to why 511 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,920 they will give us that breakdown, that detail, the 512 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,480 breakdown, which is by the way, folks, where details gets the 513 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:14,120 name from is that it says players want to players want to, 514 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,080 to know whether a new talent build or trinket is having the 515 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,920 desired effect. Here's my concern. 516 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,720 That same sentence could also just mean here's a basic damage 517 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,400 total to tell you if the thing you changed did more damage, and 518 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,080 not necessarily be indicating that they're interested in 519 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,520 breaking down those damage sources for us. 520 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:42,360 So I this looks pretty, but it feels super light on the details 521 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840 right now. I'm going to need to see more 522 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600 from the Blizzard damage meter. Yeah. 523 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Yeah, I'm going to be a little bit. 524 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Can I be a little bit of a hater? 525 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000 I feel like I've been a little bit of a hater for like the last 526 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,520 few episodes. I'm going to do it again. 527 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,880 I'm not actually waiting for a response. 528 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,680 I'm just going to do it. One of the like constant 529 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,640 anxieties I've had since games.com, it's that all of this 530 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,480 feels really far from completion. 531 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,360 Like the fact for, you know, we we made fun of like, Oh, it's 532 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,040 both damage done. But what that tells me is that 533 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,160 they don't even have a version of this on their own internal 534 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,280 pre alpha that they can screenshot. 535 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,480 That's that they photoshopped it right? 536 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,160 Otherwise it would say healing done. 537 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,560 So like I'm and I felt this this way about like the the fact that 538 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,720 they're so coy about so many different things and like what 539 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,480 exists where and how different things are are acting. 540 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,200 It just I'm really worried that this is not where I'd expect it 541 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,480 to be when we're allegedly pretty close to alpha. 542 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Am I tripping up? I would, I would say that 543 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:57,240 there's reason for you to be concerned because we're dealing 544 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,840 with information that's coming from a pre alpha state, right? 545 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,520 What gets shown and where they're pulling these screens 546 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,200 from and how further along it is by the time they're talking to 547 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440 us, right? Those are coming from two 548 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,680 different states as well, right? So this could be coming from 549 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,600 something where they're like, hey, we need to do an article 550 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,040 about this. We're going to release this 551 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,040 right after games.com. Please have this ready. 552 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,960 And a month or two months ago, this was being compiled. 553 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640 And then we have Gamescon and information has changed. 554 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560 They're like, hey, you know what, get me a screen from the 555 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,240 from the current one, right? And then it's a hey, is this 556 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440 build stable? Can we get a, can I pull this 557 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,800 together? Like there, there's reasons that 558 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,200 it might not exactly line up, but there's other things 559 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,440 happening around Gamescon and around the articles that are 560 00:30:50,440 --> 00:31:01,840 being put out which which make me question the check of things. 561 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,160 Like before you publish something, somebody needs to be 562 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,680 reviewing this and that person needs to be knowledgeable about 563 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,120 like what exactly is going on. And if you're outsourcing it far 564 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,520 enough away from that knowledge base, a lot more of this can be 565 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,600 missed, right? So like those are the the issues 566 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,040 that I'm seeing coming up more where because it's not being 567 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,680 done so close to in house that we're seeing more, more issues 568 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,520 because the person who might be like going through this, right, 569 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,840 was going through this at a much earlier state. 570 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,440 And then the person who did a last check didn't have that kind 571 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,000 of like just internal knowledge, right? 572 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,680 These kind of mistakes can happen, but like when I, when I 573 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,760 think about like some of the, the issues that they've had or 574 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,040 the changes that they they've been doing or like even at, at 575 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Gamescon where they're like, hey, you know what? 576 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,000 This is something that we've changed since we were just on 577 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,360 the team, the team stateside and we've decided that this is going 578 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,320 to change. That to me is an evolution of 579 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,880 their, of their, their stance on something, their position on 580 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,040 something. And I'm more lenient on that. 581 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,280 It's just that a lot of it's happening all at once. 582 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,800 And that creates another problem where it's like I no longer know 583 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,480 what to trust what is coming out. 584 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,280 And for those people who are, are in that similar boat, I'm 585 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:40,560 going to say trust what a developer says, even if even if 586 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:46,080 it's Ian, especially if it's Ian for two reasons. 587 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,960 One is that these devs have gone through PR training. 588 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,680 And part of PR training is if you don't know the answer, don't 589 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,800 make it up, right? It is so much more damaging to 590 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,960 have to go back on something you've said than to say, you 591 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,320 know what? I'm not sure the the team still 592 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,600 thinking about that. We'll have to get back to you 593 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,920 than to say something wrong, right? 594 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:18,920 Two, yes, you can trust Ian more than other devs for the reason 595 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,720 that Ian. Can always know best. 596 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,120 Ian can make a decision in the moment and make it happen. 597 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,840 Trust trust Ian, because your manager always knows better than 598 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,800 you do. No, because he can make the 599 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,640 decision in the moment and then have that carry out. 600 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,880 And there have been interviews where Ian will actually have 601 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,320 those moments and be like, you know what, this is something we 602 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680 were going to say or share with, but we're leaning this way, 603 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,080 right? And then the part that people 604 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,120 hate sometimes about Ian that I also find is actually helpful 605 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,760 about Ian. Ian's very careful with his 606 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,280 words. He like, I know he has a legal 607 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,639 background and some people hate the like sometimes where it 608 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:13,159 comes across a little legalese, but he's very meticulous and 609 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,639 very selective about what he says and how he says it. 610 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,280 And so you can actually read more into some of the stuff that 611 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,480 he says. Then people who are just flowery 612 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,520 with their words and saying and saying something that's 613 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,920 evocative, but has doesn't have that quite that same substance. 614 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,760 I know Sean's hating me for that, but that's. 615 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,400 What? I don't hate. 616 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,520 I don't hate you, Manny. I just don't know what world you 617 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,679 live in where Ian says things that come true. 618 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,800 Again, things are subject to change. 619 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,960 And of all this is. A Mandela Effect The Ian from 620 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,239 Manny's universe has always told the truth. 621 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,400 And the Ian from Shawn's universe always tells lies. 622 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,840 We figured it out. There you go. 623 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,679 So they're. Like. 624 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,160 Like side by side together. Well, the question you're gonna 625 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,320 ask them to. They're like the door knockers 626 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,080 from the labyrinth. Exactly. 627 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,120 So to get us back on track, I have a very similar feeling with 628 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,080 the damage meters that I do with the name plates, which I don't 629 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,160 really feel like I can make a call until I can click on it 630 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,320 until I see a little bit more. One thing I do like is, assuming 631 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,440 that the screenshot is accurate, you can have a damage and a 632 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,520 healing meter together. Is that on purpose or was that 633 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,160 an accidental? Oh, let's show them we can do 634 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,120 damage and healing so that we don't have podcasters being 635 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520 like, they didn't tell me they could do healing, so I think 636 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,120 it's going to be damage only. I don't know, but that'll be 637 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,320 sick. I'd like that I am with Sean, 638 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,240 though I do think we really need things like to spells and 639 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,560 interrupts and I in mine is so that I can flame people, but I 640 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,080 as a lead, the Guild lead, do occasionally need to Hey guys, 641 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960 so we can see FYI who's not doing their kicks. 642 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,800 That's why I want it in there. I, I genuinely think that it's 643 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,480 going to include that sort of stuff. 644 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,400 There's no way that they have an article that's like, is your 645 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,120 trinket working and then just have your base damage without 646 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,160 being able to isolate how much that trinket was blocking and 647 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,160 how much damage it was doing that. 648 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,360 That would sort of defeat the purpose of the details, as you 649 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,280 were saying. I realized, sorry man, I'm 650 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,600 speaking one minute as I prioritized the joke and I 651 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,720 didn't say the actual thing that I actually wanted to say, which 652 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:18,320 is that the one thing that I'm noticing is missing from this is 653 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,680 the ability to toggle between fights. 654 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,320 I do not want only the damage from my most recent fight. 655 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,160 I want to be able to look back at what happened 2 fights ago. 656 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,240 I want to be able to like not go into trash and immediately lose 657 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:33,120 what happened in the raid boss 2 minutes ago that I think is is 658 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,120 an important thing that details has that I want them to preserve 659 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,840 and it does not appear that they're preserving it. 660 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,120 But again, it's not real. It's. 661 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,720 Photoshopped There's three buttons on the top of this 662 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,440 meter. One of them is the drop down 663 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,640 that selects damage or healing or X. 664 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,840 The next one is it looks like an up and down line which might be 665 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,520 a divider icon between the drop down arrow and the next icon 666 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,000 which is the typical cog wheel for settings. 667 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,640 But that up and down airline might be the fight selection. 668 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,240 Yeah. Sorry, not an arrow, it's just 669 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,400 an up and down line. That might be it could be an I 670 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560 as well. Images they chose. 671 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,120 It could be a one. Which images they chose most? 672 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,960 Recent fight fight 2 for the thing Like yeah. 673 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,280 I didn't number it. I'm going to lose my mind. 674 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,120 And overall, like current damage and overall damage, like how is 675 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,040 it happening in this poll and how do we look over all? 676 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,800 Yeah. Anyway, those are all things I 677 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,200 just, I basically just want details. 678 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:36,280 Just give me details. It's I desperately, I don't 679 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,240 believe based on conversations I've had that they are talking 680 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:45,960 to the creators at any meaningful level of the add-ons 681 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,040 they're attempting to replicate. We'll head into boss alerts 682 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,280 next, which is the one that makes me say this, But I don't 683 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,160 believe that they are talking to the creators in any meeting And 684 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,400 they, I just don't. I know they have had meetings 685 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,960 with add on creators, but I don't think there are meetings 686 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,520 along the lines of hey, can you tell us some best practices or 687 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,400 things that you know people desperately want from your ad on 688 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,160 what is the most used function? I think it was more of a 689 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,360 symbolic gesture. But let's talk about boss alerts 690 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,400 because damage meetings are coming and they will tell us 691 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,720 something. Boss alerts are also coming. 692 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,040 So right now if you're fighting in the raid you or even in 693 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,320 dungeons, you're probably, if you're listening to a podcast in 694 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,520 World Warcraft, probably using an add on like Bigwigs yay or 695 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,920 DBM also yay but not my choice but I'm sure it's great. 696 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,240 So no little. Wigs. 697 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:38,520 Are we not going to talk about little wigs? 698 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,160 Bigwigs and little wigs are the same add on. 699 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,040 I'm just I'm partial. There is nothing wrong with DBM. 700 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,840 That was a joke if Adam happens to be listening. 701 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,440 These both add-ons are they're interchangeable. 702 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,480 I just happen to prefer bigwigs. I'm biased. 703 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,480 So we're getting and what those do is basically tell you a 704 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:02,240 combat timeline, usually in bar graph form of what ability is 705 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,120 coming next. You get a bar with a timer and 706 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,880 then the icon of the ability, the name of the ability. 707 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,520 Blizzard said, yeah, that's great. 708 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,440 We know people like that. We're going to give them the 709 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,200 same thing or something similar and they've taken it and they 710 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,680 have created their own timeline now. 711 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000 Super huge pro here, Bigwigs. DBM. 712 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,760 Both have to rely on getting the data after the fact and there's 713 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680 constant updates to them because data changes. 714 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,200 Blizzard makes changes that aren't documented so those 715 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,440 things are always constantly being updated for timers and 716 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,840 stuff. This is coming direct from 717 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,720 Blizzard, so presumably the timers will always be the most 718 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,040 up to date. And when Blizzard makes a change 719 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,480 in the raid on Week 2, their combat timeline will update 720 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,080 immediately with that change because it's pulling from the in 721 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,800 the internal hooks. Oh my God, I hope that's the 722 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,640 case. And this is I've just unlocked a 723 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,240 new fear as I was saying that because I was like, what if they 724 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:54,200 don't? OK, what's? 725 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,160 Up well we lost the other was just giving him just an absolute 726 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,720 fair grip to you. Your voice got filter just was 727 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,840 like no. Reached down my throat and was 728 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:11,880 like they're never updating this so but they're not giving us. 729 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,200 We don't see anyway the bars that we're used to. 730 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,680 There is a very popular week or right now that takes the 731 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,840 information from Big Wings DBM and turns it into a vertical 732 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,320 timeline where you see an icon and the next spell moves down 733 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,880 the timeline until it activates. Blizzard's boss mod replicates 734 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,560 that. You can have it be a horizontal 735 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,040 timeline with icons or a vertical timeline with icons. 736 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,440 You have the option to toggle the name of the spell on or off, 737 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,840 You have the option to toggle the time on or off. 738 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,960 You can adjust the sizes, and you can get text alerts that 739 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,080 tell you the name of the spell as it activates. 740 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,840 All very much the same as Bigwigs and DBM. 741 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:57,840 This is great as long as they give us the option to also have 742 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,080 it in that bar format now. They already have gorgeous bars 743 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,320 that they're using for the cooldown tracker, just give us 744 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,520 the option to toggle this timeline into that. 745 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,480 That is as it stands right now. I can't believe I'm about to say 746 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,200 this. That is the only ask I have for 747 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:18,240 their combat, their boss alerts. Just let me make it a bar graph 748 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,920 instead of this vertical line. Other than that. 749 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,720 And and ask 0 Keep it up to date. 750 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,920 And yeah, S 0, please, like update this. 751 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,760 You can't if this is out of date for a week, it is you will lose 752 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,880 the trust of everyone. Nobody will ever want to use 753 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,600 this again. Yeah, that's it. 754 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,840 Other than that, I mean, this is a basic, it's a it's a Brit. 755 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,160 They're pretty simple add-ons and like they're very complex, 756 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,800 but in in the case of what information they convey, what 757 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,040 spell is next? When is it happening? 758 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:52,120 Oh hey, it's happening now. That's all you really need from 759 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,000 these. We don't bigwigs DBM offer auto 760 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,440 marking for for enemies and for like icons and things in the in 761 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,160 the map. They're like auto mark pylons. 762 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,320 If there's things to kill it, it doesn't need to have that built 763 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,640 in. We can go back to manually 764 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,120 marking. That's a nice thing. 765 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,160 That's that's a it's a quality of life thing. 766 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,240 I don't expect blizzards going to want to do that because 767 00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,120 they're probably going to want us to solve these things 768 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,040 ourselves without something doing it for us. 769 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,680 So I'm fine if it doesn't have that. 770 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,760 If if your goal is just here's the abilities and when they're 771 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,600 coming next, that's great. I would ask that you included 772 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,960 for dungeons and not just raid. And I desperately want either 773 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,200 natively the option to turn it into a bar. 774 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,240 I like the bars in the cooldown manager. 775 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:37,240 I'll take those. Or let current bigwigs in DBM 776 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:41,280 have access to reskin it to make it look like there's even if 777 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,680 they can't get the same combat hooks, let them reskin the way 778 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,240 that it looks so that it looks the same. 779 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:52,440 Other than that, I'm not super. I am terrified as of just this 780 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,840 moment. I'm terrified that this is going 781 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,080 to get launched and never updated. 782 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,160 They make so many changes that are not documented on flights. 783 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,520 Timers are just So anyway, they're going. 784 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,760 They're surely. Sorry. 785 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,520 What I want them to do with this is to build it in such a way 786 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,000 that it is always pulling from the the boss's data. 787 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,160 So if they change something and the boss does it at a different 788 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,320 time, it automatically changes the the timer. 789 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,640 It's not a separate process, just if they can, because 790 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,560 they're they're working out with this integrated into the game. 791 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,560 So I want this integrated in a way where it is not a separate 792 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,880 job to update the timers. The timers are always reflecting 793 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,720 what's happening happening there. 794 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,360 The thing that I noticed about this is if you look at both of 795 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,360 the pictures, they have one ability called savage charge and 796 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,520 Savage charge has like the icon in red now with a red outline 797 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,400 rather and then and the name is in red. 798 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,480 The they have blade storm and that's got like a orange 799 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,480 outline, but the icon looks the same when they show it in the 800 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,520 horizontal one. Again, Savage charges like big 801 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,960 and bright and stuff. Is this their way of showing 802 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,880 like this is an important thing that you the raid needs to be 803 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,320 ready for. This is like the big the big 804 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,480 ability compared to all the other ones. 805 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:18,520 Cool, but I'd also like to be able to adjust that my myself to 806 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,000 say like, hey, this is the ability I really want 807 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,160 highlighted because this is the ability that my my team is 808 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,720 struggling with That would be that's the kind of again, it's 809 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,160 another thing where you're looking to modify it, but just 810 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,120 to be able to highlight an ability, just be able to get an 811 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,560 alert when it passes by that 5 second mark because they've got 812 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,160 it all marked with like each thing has a timer. 813 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,280 This thing's at 0, this thing's at one second and so forth 814 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,960 right. I would love if I could just get 815 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:52,520 like a little alert when particular abilities get past 816 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,640 that 5 seconds. Or as a raid leader, I can be 817 00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:00,000 like, hey team 5 seconds to the savage charge, 5 seconds until 818 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,080 whatever ability get your like cooldowns and so forth. 819 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,520 That sort of thing would be great, great for it. 820 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,360 And it's something you can do with like add-ons. 821 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,960 You can have particular things give like the big like runaway 822 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,480 girl and so forth. Or just even small things have 823 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,800 smaller sounds that that go off through there. 824 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,360 Because while all of this is shown to us visually, a lot of 825 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:34,440 players use audible sounds in order to like lessen the visual 826 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,920 noise and like adjust through things all the way. 827 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,120 So that's, that's what I would like. 828 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,440 And of course, there are, there are players that have different 829 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,400 accessibility, right? And just because it's on bars 830 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,600 that are going through that doesn't affect some players the 831 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,440 same way it affects others. Manny uses DBM because that 832 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,600 sound cues from DBM. Yeah, Cole, like voice DBM and 833 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,680 like I totally I've, I've used them all though, right? 834 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,320 I've used them all. I like which one of us is right. 835 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,520 So you and I. On the wrong one. 836 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,200 No, you're not the wrong one, even if you're outnumbered on 837 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,960 this small segment size, right? Yeah, yeah, I think sad. 838 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,240 I'm looking forward to this again. 839 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:26,720 This one I think is the most from what I could see add on 840 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,560 that looks like it'll be it'll be best used out-of-the-box from 841 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,880 what they've what they're showing. 842 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:38,560 But again, it's something that I hope that they are responding to 843 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:44,160 feedback and that they will also adjust things as it goes based 844 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,280 on like as they develop new things, as like the needs and 845 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,560 the wants of the community demand. 846 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,720 So from there, we're going into more of the quality of life 847 00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:59,000 stuff. I'm glad that they are 848 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,240 constantly changing these things. 849 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,720 This is something that's been ongoing since Dragonflight when 850 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:05,600 they first started adjusting the UI. 851 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,360 And I'm really glad that they are doing this now. 852 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,200 Looking back, it looks like this was sort of a precursor. 853 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,520 Let's update the the UI, make it a little bit fancier so that we 854 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,960 can start pulling back on these things. 855 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,160 I know people who still don't use the one bag and some people 856 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,080 who are very much attached to their Addy bag still. 857 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,400 And some people who said, hey, I don't need Addy bags. 858 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,440 The people who who drop daddy bags. 859 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,720 I think you're not quite sure of how the power that the Athlon 860 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:40,840 still have. Anyways, I'm really glad that 861 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,360 they do continue to make these quality of life choices changes. 862 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,880 But the big one that I'm really glad to see improve is, of 863 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:54,680 course, the cooldown manager. In this article, they talk about 864 00:47:54,680 --> 00:48:01,200 how, hey, you can pull these cooldowns from like essential 865 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,480 cooldowns to utility to like things that are not displayed. 866 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:09,320 All of that is what we're been saying with all the other ones, 867 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,040 allow us to modify the information that we're getting 868 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,040 to what we as players deem as important. 869 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:21,040 That way the feedback isn't Blizzard, you need to change 870 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,880 this so that I can accurately track buff XY and Z. 871 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,360 It is, oh, I'm just going to go into the UI and make sure I can 872 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,720 track XY and Z and not track ABC. 873 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,720 And that's what this cooldown manager is, is starting to do. 874 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:42,560 So I'm so happy for that. What do you guys think from just 875 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,080 the pictures? Because again, this is not 876 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,520 something that we have through through there. 877 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,720 Let's put that one over to Sean first. 878 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,240 They I'm interested to see this in action when it comes out 1125 879 00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,080 with all of the changes it's made. 880 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,720 It will need. They would basically need to 881 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,120 make weak or as non functional for me to swap off of them. 882 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,720 Because as good as the cooler manager isn't letting us 883 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:19,080 customize what goes where, what spells were tracking, how we're 884 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,440 tracking, it's still not going to give us the visual control 885 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,280 that we go as give. It's not going to give us the 886 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,720 full flexibility that we go as give for what we track. 887 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,960 You know they can you can set it up so things grow in size or pop 888 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,720 when you know it's a button you want to press right away from a 889 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:41,720 proc or you can yeah, there's just a lot of things you do that 890 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,560 maybe you'll be able to do eventually with cool on manager. 891 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,040 But I doubt I I feel like cool on manager is going to be like 892 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,240 weak auras light really, really good for anybody who's not 893 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,200 comfortable with weak auras hasn't used them a lot and put 894 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,040 those people on on pretty much even footing with the vast 895 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,640 majority of the player base who are using them. 896 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:05,240 But even like I've mentioned it before, I like the zoom 30% look 897 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,960 of the icons because that makes the icon a box and cooldown 898 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,600 manager by default, you have to have the border. 899 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,440 I'm not in love with the border. And it also doesn't allow you. 900 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,720 You can adjust the space between them, but there's a minimum 901 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,520 space between them that you can adjust. 902 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,080 And it's still too wide for me. I want them closer. 903 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,240 So just those kinds of minor things 'cause me some still some 904 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,960 consternation, but it does look like it's getting way better. 905 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,240 And somebody who's not using a full week or a pack, I think 906 00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:38,000 this is going to be a massive game changer. 907 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,640 And there I know people who do use WE core packs now who will 908 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,520 want to move off of them to the Blizzard option because they 909 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,160 believe it will increase their frame rate, which I don't 910 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,080 believe, but it may. Depending on the strength of 911 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,200 their computer, we cores are one of the number one sources for 912 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,920 people to have issues. And I think this past week we've 913 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,160 had issues with LVUI causing like some issues with frame 914 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,960 rate. So like sometimes add-ons do 915 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,000 'cause that. And if you are on a older PC or 916 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,120 you just so happen to be on like some non standard hardware, 917 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,920 yeah, yeah, I can understand that. 918 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,640 What about you Lex? What are you thinking about 919 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,040 this? I'm feeling pretty good about 920 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,040 this. So I am famously a tell me one 921 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:35,600 girlie and I would I would much prefer to use the base UI than 922 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,800 to use an add on. That said, and forgive me if 923 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,200 this has been discussed in another place, I'm forgetting 924 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,440 it, there are some functionalities of tell me when 925 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,880 that I don't believe they've said yet are coming into 926 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,680 cooldown manager things like I can set it. 927 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,960 So maybe that maybe this actually is a tracking defensive 928 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,000 thing, I don't know. And I can set it so that, as I 929 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,480 was saying at the meaning of the show, my MO aura doesn't show up 930 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,760 until I'm out of MO aura. I don't, I don't want to see it 931 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,360 unless I both have it up and also don't need it or I do need 932 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,160 it at the moment. I, some of my skills only show 933 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,840 up when I'm at a certain amount, like I'm at like 30% of fury or 934 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,440 less, right? Again, I do not want to see that 935 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,120 unless I don't want to be looking at my fury. 936 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,120 I want it to not pop up unless I need to use it. 937 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,840 I don't know if they have that degree of customized ability. 938 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:33,400 I think that is relatively necessary to make a good 939 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,000 cooldown tracker. I guess my, what I, what I would 940 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:42,640 say is I feel in my completely unbiased opinion that the way 941 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,200 that I like I, I use cooldown trackers at a pretty low level 942 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,160 and there's some functionality at my low level of cooldown 943 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,800 tracking that I'm not seeing in this. 944 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,960 And I, I, I think I will, I'll probably, I'm going to stick 945 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,080 with tell me when until they either turn it off or this has 946 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,440 the same thing. So tell me one has just because 947 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,040 I, you know, why would I make the game harder on myself? 948 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,480 I'm already parsing with the tanks. 949 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,080 Yeah, you're doing that on your own. 950 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,200 Exactly. I'm not doing my talents. 951 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,920 Yeah, I mean, I think there's going to be reasons that some 952 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,600 people are just not going to turn this off, sorry, turn off 953 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,480 their add-ons until they are forced to specifically with weak 954 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,200 cores. It's because they're so 955 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,640 programmable. Like if I have a trinket and I 956 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,280 want to track a trinket, I don't expect Blizz is going to put 957 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,000 that in my cooldown manager. I don't think I can like pull 958 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,440 that in and and track how many stacks I'm getting with like a 959 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,800 trinket with a trinket that I want to use above a certain 960 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,080 number. I don't think I'm going to be 961 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:43,680 able to have like a little audio cue that plays as I'm as I have 962 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,840 this buff or even something as simple as like, oh, when I am 963 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:54,880 above of a a certain level of resources that it changes color. 964 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,640 These are things that I don't expect Blizzard to put in 965 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,720 because it is so specific to me, but weak cores allow me to 966 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:07,640 engineer that that UI exactly how I want it, and so power 967 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,440 users are going to stay with those add-ons until they're 968 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,200 forced off. Super quick note, they actually 969 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,280 do say in this that come midnight you will be able to set 970 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,680 sound alerts to our cooldowns. That said, you actually ruined 971 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,800 my life when you mentioned they probably won't let you talk 972 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:28,160 trinkets. I will if I I I'm not even 973 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,760 kidding when I say if I can't track trinkets on my cooldown 974 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:36,040 manager, I will either have to go hard it to like like I will 975 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,840 refuse a trinket if it is not on a quip or yeah or, or I suppose 976 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,840 I'll learn. You know how to do a basic macro 977 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,920 that my team has explained to me 20 times. 978 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,040 I guess I could do that too, but that actually would also be on 979 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,960 my list of like making this like. 980 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,000 I should macro my trinket with my ascendance. 981 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,120 I forgot to do that. I'm pressing them separately. 982 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,880 Thanks Lex. I'll be changing that probably 983 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,000 tonight anyways. But that actually is a good 984 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,440 point. There are like some unused 985 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,800 things that you. Ascendance 2 minute cooldown 986 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,640 trinket I'm using too confusion. The confusion isn't in what you 987 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,400 said. Manny, how are your I get it. 988 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,360 I understand Lex not having her triggers macro. 989 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,600 She's still running the dragonfly demonic balance. 990 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,360 I accept this. I just got this. 991 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,640 How? Was it triggered that macro to 992 00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:31,280 ascendance Manny? I I just got it yesterday and I 993 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,920 didn't do the macro change. You don't just have an auto 994 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,000 macro set up for a slot 14 a slot 13 with your ascendants. 995 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,720 No, because sometimes the trinkets are are not aligned. 996 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:47,960 Sometimes I'm using a talent that doesn't use ascendance, 997 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,960 it's using the deeply rooted elements which pop every so a 998 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,320 second. So I keep the all. 999 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,160 Right. I was judging and I shouldn't 1000 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,240 have been. I take it back. 1001 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,480 Honestly, if you get enough haste and you just go deeply 1002 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,080 rooted elements, oh it's so good. 1003 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:06,240 Anyways, that's separate I I am looking forward to these 1004 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,120 add-ons. Obviously, there's going to be a 1005 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:13,760 gap between when they come out and they're alive and where they 1006 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,160 need to be for us to comfortably use them and not the add-ons. 1007 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,480 That 4%, because Blizzard has said like, oh, they want to have 1008 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,360 this have like 96% of functionality and there's going 1009 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,280 to be that gap. That 4% is really going to be 1010 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,240 important as we get closer to the point where they say, OK, 1011 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,240 we're going to start restricting the APII. 1012 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,960 That's where my fear is because I don't expect these to show up 1013 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,640 day one and be like, amazing. I just need them to get to that 1014 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:48,720 4% and that 4% to actually be comfortable, not like, oh, this 1015 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:52,000 4% is something I really need before they shut off the API. 1016 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,720 So we will be putting forward additional, additional 1017 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,480 commentary criticisms as we see this. 1018 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,560 That was only one article and we're already at the hour mark. 1019 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:10,680 Guys, I got to, I got to ask, shall we cover the transmog? 1020 00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:16,800 Yeah, the trans mug we could probably cut. 1021 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,720 OK, great. Let's just talk about this 1022 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,120 survey. I'm sorry Lex, I'm pretty sure 1023 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,840 you love trans mug. I. 1024 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,080 Actually understand how to use chat in this podcast. 1025 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,040 Lex is the only one of us. I was, as you were asking Manny, 1026 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,080 I was like, oh, we have a chat message here. 1027 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,320 We have Lex. Lex said the thing Manny's now 1028 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,840 verbalizing to the guests. I'm verbalizing to everybody, 1029 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,240 don't worry. Hello. 1030 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,400 Now everyone knows we cut transmog. 1031 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,800 Yeah, now we cut transmog. I'm I'm sure there are people 1032 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,000 who are going to be upset. Clearly not Lex. 1033 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,280 So yeah, we got to talk about M Plus, by the way. 1034 00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,880 So if we got to cut to anything, it's going to be Transmark. 1035 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,440 So let's talk about, let's talk about M Plus. 1036 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,280 Let's talk about this survey that's been going around 1037 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,640 because, you know, Blizzard says don't share this survey and 1038 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,840 apparently nobody listens because they're being Reddit 1039 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,080 posts. There have been tweets about 1040 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,280 this. The discussion has been rampant, 1041 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:26,840 so let's throw this one to Sean You, you love M Plus, give us a 1042 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,320 give us a breakdown. People saying that we're getting 1043 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,920 fellowship coming to Wow. Yeah, so there's it was a survey 1044 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,960 with six questions, Blizzard saying, hey, give us your 1045 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,400 interest levels on these six type topics ranging from not 1046 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,800 interested at all to extremely interested. 1047 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,040 One of these was about the potential for group Finder. 1048 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,360 I'll just read them. Group Finder can automatically 1049 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,920 form a group for you based on criteria you set as a group 1050 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,800 leader. How interested are you in this? 1051 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,120 This is one of six options and apparently the only one anybody 1052 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,400 read. The second one says, because 1053 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,920 people read that and instantly thought we're getting solo cues 1054 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,480 and Mythic plus, Blizzard is giving us solo cue. 1055 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,280 They're forcing solo cue on us. Mythic Plus is dead. 1056 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,400 No one's going to Mythic Plus again anymore. 1057 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:24,360 Blizzard ruin Mythic Plus. And then it flipped somewhere 1058 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,200 around noon today, and the Hall of Fame guilds who were classic 1059 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,680 raid loggers were suddenly like, we're getting solo cues. 1060 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,200 We have people to do dungeons with again. 1061 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:39,760 Anyway, the second question of 6 let's think what 12 percent? 1062 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,960 12% of the questions was about solo queue. 1063 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,440 Now group leaders. Second question, Group leaders 1064 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,240 key is resilient. This means it won't drop if you 1065 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,160 deplete it for the first group they lead each week. 1066 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,880 How interested are you? Second question and 3rd question 1067 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,400 was group leaders receive additional crests after the 1068 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,240 completion of the dungeon. The 4th question was group 1069 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,200 leaders receive additional valor stones after completion of the 1070 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,360 dungeon, which to me I think is the most important question 1071 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,440 because this means valor stones still exist in midnight. 1072 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,040 What the heck, Blizz? Why delete values? 1073 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,720 On question five, Group Finder will recommend players with a 1074 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,280 similar skill level to you as a group leader. 1075 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,400 How interested are you? We already can sort of do this 1076 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,720 with filters that they give us. So I guess I'm as interested as 1077 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,560 I was when you first implemented it, Blizz. 1078 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,600 And then question six, group Finder will recommend players 1079 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,000 with similar play styles or goals to you as a group leader. 1080 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,760 And again, I'm pretty sure you can already filter by this as 1081 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,520 well, whether they want completion or in time. 1082 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,840 So this is the survey. The Blizzard obviously 1083 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,880 recognizes that there is a community problem with with LFG 1084 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,160 tool. The LFG tool. 1085 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,120 I want to be super clear here. The LFG tool is not a problem. 1086 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,280 LFG tool does exactly what it is meant to do. 1087 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,280 It allows people to post keys, that allows people to queue for 1088 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,000 those posted keys, and it allows the person who posted them to 1089 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,720 select keys to put a group together to run a dungeon. 1090 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,360 LFG does exactly what it does. People however also do exactly 1091 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,600 what people do and get super picky and super weird and super 1092 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,560 toxic while putting these groups together. 1093 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,680 And sometimes people get invited because they're hunters and then 1094 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,040 the group says are you marksman? And the hunter says no on BM and 1095 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,360 they kick them because they don't understand that their 1096 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,320 weekly 10 doesn't need a marksmanship hunter. 1097 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,720 So are we getting solo queues guys? 1098 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:43,920 I guess that's the question. I think that two things have to 1099 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,160 happen for me to actually care about the solo queue. 1100 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,040 I think that if the first key you run with your key is 1101 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:56,440 resilient, I think that that is incentivizing me to lead a 1102 01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:02,400 group, right? If that resilient key has to be 1103 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:07,440 done through this like solo queue group Finder, so be it. 1104 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,320 Like it's like, OK, I've got nothing to lose. 1105 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,680 Let me just throw a random group together that like please, it 1106 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,200 puts together and hopefully it doesn't take me an hour to get 1107 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,680 through a 33 minute key, right. That sure, OK, on a day I'll 1108 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,560 give that a a test and I'll go through it. 1109 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,600 I would much prefer resilient if I am the person on the first 1110 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,160 time that I put my key in as a group leader that to me, sure, 1111 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,080 I'll I'll put go through a group thing and I'll still deal with 1112 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:41,280 like all the toxicity that is going to happen, right. 1113 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:49,440 I just don't think that the solo group Finder is good for mythic 1114 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,640 Plus. If you can burn your key, I 1115 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,800 think that's going to be painful. 1116 01:02:54,920 --> 01:03:02,400 Especially when we already have sort of a response to this 1117 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,680 abandoned abanders thing where people are sort of extorting the 1118 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,840 like, Oh well if you're not going to force the abandoned, 1119 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,600 I'm just going to butt pull everything. 1120 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,240 I'm going to purposely wipe until nobody wants wants to do 1121 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,480 this key. I don't need to be thrown in 1122 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,880 with randoms for where that behavior becomes that much 1123 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:27,480 easier for them. So yeah, I, I'm really afraid of 1124 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:32,200 solo queues right now based on based on experience with current 1125 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:38,240 bad stories. Like I've only had like 2 bad 1126 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,920 groups this this tier and one of them was like great attitude 1127 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,600 just unable to like God Blizzard bring me the interrupt. 1128 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,200 Bring me the interrupt tutorial please Blizzard. 1129 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,120 Instead of vote to kick, you vote to put them in the 1130 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,520 interrupt tutorial. That's the most toxic thing 1131 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,120 Manny's ever said on this podcast. 1132 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,560 It was so painful. Manny ran a key and at the end 1133 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,200 of the key said you should try the interrupt tutorial. 1134 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,120 No, no, no, I didn't wait for the end of the key, I mean. 1135 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,760 No Manny, Manny, Manny. How could I'm supposed to be the 1136 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,160 toxic one? I'm but I remember to hear it. 1137 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:33,560 When I was saying it anyways, I do think that solo group is 1138 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,160 definitely something that I don't want. 1139 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:42,400 I think that group Finder in general kind of pulled apart the 1140 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,600 fabric of community of communities. 1141 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,960 I think that people who are pushing higher keys typically 1142 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,720 will find one another and and form groups and stuff so that 1143 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,840 they like. I don't think we're seeing 1144 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,680 people push like top tier keys without like a dedicated group. 1145 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,360 And I don't think those those those groups that are even like 1146 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,800 close to that are using group Finder. 1147 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,480 And so I think that if you can find people and they're and you 1148 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,320 like like running keys with them. 1149 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,840 I've had keys where it's like, oh, let's run another one. 1150 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,000 What did your key turn into? Sure, let's go do that. 1151 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,280 And I think that that is like something I would like to 1152 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:31,160 encourage. And it gets less likely when, 1153 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:39,920 let's say two of the five people can just be like, yeah, no, I 1154 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,320 get an instant queue anyways, I'm out of here. 1155 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,720 Yeah, I was already thinking that. 1156 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,040 If you're 1. Out of threes as a tank I would 1157 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,360 get instant cues. So if it's going sideways I 1158 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,000 would just leave and re queue instant. 1159 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:57,960 But I think everybody's cues would be pretty fast. 1160 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,320 I don't know how solo shuffle work. 1161 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,040 I don't know if those cues are instant. 1162 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:06,360 I I actually think group Finder giving the option to auto put a 1163 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,360 group together based on people who applied for a certain key 1164 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,600 couldn't possibly be worse than the reality that we live in now 1165 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,040 where DPS sitting queue for 45 minutes and don't get invited to 1166 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,880 any keys, or an hour and don't get invited to any keys. 1167 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,360 Or they finally get into a key and they get kicked because 1168 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,960 they're the wrong speck of hunter, you know? 1169 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,440 Or were you queue up for five and in those five groups the 1170 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,560 group leader has no intention of taking you. 1171 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,480 This is actually APSA if you're waiting for a specific class or 1172 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,960 you're like, I don't ever want a group with shadow priest because 1173 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,440 I hate classes that do amazing damage and come with good 1174 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,880 utility. If you are this person, decline 1175 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,200 those people who signed up because they can only queue for 1176 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,720 five at a time. Don't make them sit there in a 1177 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,240 key queue they're never going to get. 1178 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,720 And on the flip side, if you're somebody who's queued up for 1179 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,640 your five dungeons and you get declined for a couple, don't 1180 01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,920 send that group leader a nasty message saying why would you 1181 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,600 decline me, I'm 3.1 K, I'm the best guy to priest on the 1182 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,280 planet. Except the fact that they 1183 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,200 weren't going to take you anyway. 1184 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,400 Now you can queue up for another group that might take you. 1185 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,040 But all this will be fixed when we get so accused. 1186 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,560 Well, I, so I, I think, and I will say I'm about to 1187 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,080 regurgitate a conversation that happened in my Guild discord. 1188 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,000 So if you're like Wow Lex, you're speaking with a lot of 1189 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,840 confidence for somebody who famously doesn't do a lot of 1190 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,880 mythic plus, because I'm not speaking myself, I'm speaking as 1191 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,280 my guildies. I think part of the issue is 1192 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:31,840 that this isn't answering the core issue with queuing right 1193 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:37,040 now, which is that there's like no tanks and healers, right? 1194 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,000 Like if you solo Q, it's going to be just as long, if not 1195 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,600 longer, because it's not going to change the number of tanks 1196 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,240 and healers you have. And again, we had a long 1197 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,520 conversation about this in my Guild discord. 1198 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,240 I don't have a lot that I can say for what would make healers 1199 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,120 more likely to sign up, but one thing that was kind of 1200 01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,080 universally agreed upon in my Guild discord is that it is the 1201 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,440 like part of the issue that won't be solved with any of 1202 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,920 these things is that the challenge rating to get in as a 1203 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,600 tank is just really high. The number of things you need to 1204 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,960 be able to balance if you're going to tank, especially a pug 1205 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,920 Mythic plus. Like when I mythic plus with my 1206 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,120 Guild, they walk me through things. 1207 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,400 Who cares that I don't know routes? 1208 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,279 Who cares that I like, you don't have to Google the mechanics. 1209 01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:20,439 Who cares that I like, don't fully understand which packs can 1210 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,560 pull together and which packs can't? 1211 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,520 That's fine because somebody's going to talk me through an 1212 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:28,359 invoice. I really want to pug M plus keys 1213 01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:30,640 like conceptually that sounds really good for me because I'd 1214 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,560 like to be able like I don't really play at the time. 1215 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:37,160 So most my friends play and I I enjoy tanking as a concept. 1216 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,920 So it makes a ton of sense to me to just start popping in pug 1217 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,000 keys. I get very overwhelmed when I 1218 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,600 look up routing guides. If you don't, if you haven't 1219 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,880 routed before, it's complicated. Like maybe I'm just a little 1220 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,080 stupid. I'm also a little stupid, but 1221 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,840 like, it's it's scary to go in and be like, Oh God, I don't 1222 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,479 really know that I fully know the route and I don't really 1223 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:57,920 know what I can pull together, but I know I have to pull 1224 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,760 multiple packs at once and like, oh, wait, wait, was that a pack 1225 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,680 that like now everyone's mad at me because I'm not supposed to 1226 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,439 pull this one thing or I'm supposed to notice me by it. 1227 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,800 And on top of that, I'm also trying to like do the mechanics 1228 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,880 and make sure that I'm not, you know, wiping my team as the 1229 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:09,880 tank. And I'm also trying to do my 1230 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:15,319 rotation and that and, and on top of that, if things go wrong, 1231 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,800 everyone's going to yell at me. So the first thing we can do 1232 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,840 with a Blizzard can't even fix. But I this is to all the 1233 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,640 listeners. If you just sat in queue for 1234 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,720 hours and hours trying to find a group and you get a tank and the 1235 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,880 tank is kind of sucking and you're typing out your little 1236 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,640 message of hey, idiot, learn to tank, you loser. 1237 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,120 Maybe consider that the fact that they're learning to tank 1238 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,680 right there is the reason. Like if, if more people were 1239 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,160 learning to tank and were willing to be kind of crappy in 1240 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,800 in in mythic plus, you would sit in queue for shorter periods of 1241 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,040 time. But all of which is to say, 1242 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,800 yeah, some of this, like the resilience seems pretty popular 1243 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,279 universally. I think that's a good idea to 1244 01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:54,200 make it easier and like safer to to pug keys. 1245 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,960 The crust of the valor stones. I guess to me, again, I don't 1246 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,640 really do my thick plus it doesn't even make sense as a 1247 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,200 like it it would make you sign up more. 1248 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,560 But if I as the player, don't get additional crust of valor 1249 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,200 stones, why wouldn't I? I'd still just leave, right? 1250 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,640 There's no reason I wouldn't deplete a key and feel like, oh, 1251 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,320 well, this is going poorly. I'm just bouncing. 1252 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,720 I guess hypothetically I could get voted out, but whatever. 1253 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:19,040 I I do really wish that there was a way and I know you can 1254 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:24,000 kind of do it in in the LFG right now, but like I would love 1255 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,920 if there was a way that I could mark myself as a baby tank. 1256 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,560 And like when I sign up, it just gives a notification like this 1257 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,080 tank has said that or like this player says that they don't like 1258 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,960 that they're playing it like, and I know there's like discords 1259 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,960 and stuff that kind of do that, but like, yeah, I actually kind 1260 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,080 of would like that, right. I would like to sign up in nice 1261 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,280 queue. Let me go over to learning queue 1262 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,440 and then you guys can go to your hard queue. 1263 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:51,120 But I don't think any of this affects the fact that the two 1264 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,680 most sought after groups, A lot of people like if are are so 1265 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,800 popular that they're just in groups already and and are 1266 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,200 really pugging. And the fact that, fairly or 1267 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,880 not, Mythic Plus has a reputation of being toxic and so 1268 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,640 people don't want to pug into it because they don't want to risk 1269 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,840 that. Yeah, I mean, I do think that 1270 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,160 all of those all of those points are just stand. 1271 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,880 It is one of those things where you force out the people who are 1272 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,000 trying to learn it, which makes it harder to do those, to find 1273 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,400 people to do those roles. And it causes things the people 1274 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,640 that are good kind of get scooped up. 1275 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:34,360 But like I don't see the point in giving extra valor stones and 1276 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,800 extra crests. Like if I'm filling my row of 1277 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,640 vault, I'm hitting the the cap on Crest, right? 1278 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:46,240 Unless I'm doing like my 1:10 and then that's what am I gonna 1279 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,680 do? Like not lead a group until I'm 1280 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:56,800 ready to do my 1:10 to get extra crests in that or do that as my 1281 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,400 first one where I'm going to be through and then not and not 1282 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,440 lead a group thereafter. It's just, it's just a very 1283 01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:09,280 strange, strange thing. And I don't think it gives them, 1284 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,720 I don't think it gives them what they're looking for, which is, 1285 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,120 hey, more people listing groups. If there are more people listing 1286 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,800 groups and there are more group groups out there, then it's 1287 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,120 great. But like, let's say you have 1288 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,080 something so great that everybody wants to lead a group. 1289 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,360 Well, now everybody's leading a group. 1290 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,640 There's nobody to fill. Like I don't think this is 1291 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,600 solving the problem that they that they're actually looking 1292 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:35,320 at. So I don't like, I don't see 1293 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,680 these as good quick fixes in my opinion. 1294 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:46,520 I do think that a solo queue would do more harm than good 1295 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,640 because the they are they're already talking about the social 1296 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,120 contract and every so often you have to sign in and be like, 1297 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,480 yes, I will play nice, but when you. 1298 01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:59,960 Unless people in my group don't kick and then I'm going to ask 1299 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:06,480 them to do the interim tutorial. I was relative, I was nice. 1300 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:12,600 I did not put any profanity. I spoke about the mechanic. 1301 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,880 I. Just wrote the word kick 6 times 1302 01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,200 question marks. I did. 1303 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,720 I, I took the time. We were, we were depleting 1304 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,120 anyways. I said, hey, you know what? 1305 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,600 It's just going to be a completion. 1306 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,040 You're obviously an idiot. Let me explain to you how this 1307 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,440 interrupt. Button works on your balls. 1308 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,920 Who the hell puts together a group with like anyways? 1309 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,440 Anyways I. Love you, Manny. 1310 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:41,160 I'm glad. Listener, if you were in this 1311 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,200 key with Manny and you saw the shaman named the true villain 1312 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,440 Manny attempting to explain to you how interrupts work, you can 1313 01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:50,800 send your thanks over at bit dot LY slash faz discord to let him 1314 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,240 know. Hey Manny, thank you. 1315 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,400 I will do that interrupt tutorial when it comes out 1316 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,560 because I also don't know how to stop casts. 1317 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,360 Sorry, it's. OK, you know what? 1318 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,240 Swayed me, by the way, I'm I'm out now because as a tank, why 1319 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,440 would I ever use so like you when I have my choice of groups 1320 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:15,120 in LFG right now? Yeah, yeah. 1321 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,840 So yeah, I just, and then like, I just think that they just need 1322 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,360 to put things together in a way that just encourages you to, 1323 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,200 like, make friends out there because, you know, the world's 1324 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,920 crappy enough. Make some friends. 1325 01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,960 That actually is I I will say I do have a little bit of 1326 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:40,000 nostalgia to I did play briefly as a small child in like classic 1327 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,760 and and BC and rap. I might have actually been BC 1328 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,720 and rap, but whatever. And I feel like I made a lot 1329 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,440 more friends. And I think that actually is 1330 01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,920 another thing that solo Q would pull us further away from. 1331 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,080 I. I feel like I was constantly 1332 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,160 adding people to my friends list after doing dungeons and 1333 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,160 chatting and having a good time. Not I'm sorry, I'm sounding like 1334 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,080 a little. I'm ending on a little 1335 01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,200 funkiness. You said, you said classic and 1336 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,720 you said classic BC wrath. And I was OK with that. 1337 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,560 I thought you're going to be in fact, when I was a little kid 1338 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,280 back in like BFA shadow lands and I was like, I was about to 1339 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,960 die. I was about to this keel over 1340 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,360 dead in my in my chair, just like I, I hope I got the 1341 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,240 gravesite pulled out. But I'm glad. 1342 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,800 I'm glad that you said those things. 1343 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,880 Yeah. Social, social. 1344 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,080 The social part of this game is something that I would like to 1345 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,760 have not restored. I don't think you can really go 1346 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,280 back and pull things that force people to like rough it out 1347 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,720 together, but like at least maintained. 1348 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,240 And the more they automate things, the less attached you 1349 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,880 are to, to people. It's like, oh, kick that tank 1350 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,200 and we'll get somebody to fill in fill in in the next 5 minutes 1351 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,640 anyways. And so the learning tank has to 1352 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,640 suffer through like the quote UN quote, humiliation and like 1353 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,160 depression of like they got kicked midway through through a 1354 01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:01,000 key or the healer or the guy who wasn't interrupted interrupting 1355 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,640 or that or that shaman whose damage was too low, whatever you 1356 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:09,640 want to call it, because you don't take the time to put the 1357 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,520 grip together because it's so easy to just jump into the into 1358 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:18,400 the next thing. Like your interactions are so 1359 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:24,560 flimsy, so like replaceable. And I don't want to encourage 1360 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,120 that. So like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not 1361 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,000 for the solo queue. Regardless, I'd love to hear 1362 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,760 from our listeners what their thoughts are on this, what they 1363 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,920 would like out of M plus or what would encourage them to start 1364 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,760 making some groups in M plus. I think that regardless of how 1365 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,680 your group goes, whatever the bonus is needs to be there just 1366 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,880 so you don't need to lead a successful key. 1367 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,600 You just need to try and lead. But until next time, guys, wait, 1368 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:51,920 go ahead. I want to do it. 1369 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,760 Wait, I want to do a giveaway. Join the discord bit dot LY 1370 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,400 slash faz discord. I'll pay for this. 1371 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,080 Tell us what class you made and tell us the name of your 1372 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,600 interrupt on that class and everybody who does that before 1373 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:13,040 we record next Wednesday. So September the 10th, we record 1374 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:18,600 September the 10th at 8:00 PM, 7:00 PM Eastern Time, Eastern 1375 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,600 Daylight savings time. Everybody who does that, I'll 1376 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,000 enter them in for a chance to win a epic edition of midnight. 1377 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,720 I'll I'll buy them an epic edition in midnight. 1378 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,600 OK, We'll draw a live on the show. 1379 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,320 So that's your chance. If you're listening to this, 1380 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,120 hopefully you listen to it before next week. 1381 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,280 Tell us your main what, what you mean, what class you mean and 1382 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:42,120 the name of your interrupt just so we can start building that 1383 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,800 base, that solid base of players that we can group with when we 1384 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:49,160 start doing key. There you go, and until next 1385 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,760 time guys, may all your hits be crits.