1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,440 Unfortunately, I had some mic issues with this recording. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,280 By the time I realized it, we had already recorded the 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,680 entirety of the show, so my apologies. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,560 It'll be fixed for next time. And with that, let's get into 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,840 it. Victory for the Forsaken for 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:23,800 Lauderon, for the Karen Tour, for Pandaria, for Calendar, for 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,560 the Burning region, for Gilnaeus, or has Not Died for 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,960 the Lich King. For the. 9 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Sindora for the Alliance for the Horn for Azeroth. 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Hello and welcome to another episode of For Azeroth. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,120 I am one of your hosts, Manny, AKA The Trivial Manny, and I am, 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,440 of course, joined by the other two parts of the Triumphant 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:01:01,080 First coming in from the amazing bayous of Mississippi. 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,040 We have Lex, and I know that was a little bit switching up there. 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,280 We'll just say Georgia, Let's go the entire station. 16 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:10,480 Aren't aren't bayous in Louisiana? 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,440 Yeah, the bayous are Louisiana and Georgia and Mississippi are 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,560 two different states. That's why I want to say, yeah, 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,440 but like Georgia has, doesn't Georgia have some at the South 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,480 end? I'm pretty sure. 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,800 I mean I'm not American but I'm pretty sure to hear the term 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,360 Bayou I I strictly think Louisiana. 23 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the gumbo and all of 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,520 that. Yes, definitely, definitely. 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,200 But like I anyways, I paid it because I was like, no, wait, 26 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Mississippi's not right. I got to go to like say that she 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,760 has it anyways, I apologize, Lex, I I screwed up your state. 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,040 So we're just going to stick with with Mississippi this time. 29 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,680 And I don't know anything about Mississippi. 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,120 If you know something about Mississippi, feel free to 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,360 message me. But Lex, how are you doing this 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,960 week and how as well? Mississippi facts. 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,320 None of them are crud. No offense from Mississippi. 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:04,400 Wow, how are you and how is the completely non controversial 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,120 World of World of Warcraft treating you? 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,560 It's been. Treating me good. 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,800 I so I will say this week especially, I've been knee deep 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,640 in Christmas cookie baking. I bake Christmas cookies. 39 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:19,040 I, I took on what used to my grandfather's role of baking 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,640 Christmas cookies for my entire extended family, although he 41 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:24,760 only did it for his like three children and I do it for my 42 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,200 entire extended family. So there is quite a bit of 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,640 Christmas cookie dough in my fridge right now that needs to 44 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:33,800 be rolled out and cut into hundreds of Christmas cookies. 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,040 But that's OK. It's very fun. 46 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,840 That's nice. And then of course, coming from 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,840 the East End of Canada, we have Sean. 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,640 Hello, Sean, How are you? No bayous here, I'm doing quite 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,320 well. I'm doing quite well, Manny. 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,600 World of Warcraft has been treating me good. 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,240 I have a surprise for the listeners, A twist that will 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,600 shock and amaze them from last week. 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,240 So I'm excited for us to talk about our first topic because 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:08,000 last time on for Azeroth Ball, for Azur on Z, it doesn't work 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,320 when you just put the Z on there. 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,000 I was doing a Dragon Ball Z thing. 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,840 I can't do the radio announcer voice through the Korra thing. 58 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:17,600 So I was, I mean you. Could like approximate the thing 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,320 last time on Dragon Ball Z or whatever? 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,680 It was approximated, yeah, that this. 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,360 Is AU skill Manny? Yeah, I can't. 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,520 Last time on for Azur off, Sean talked about brucing up the 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,560 place. I yeah, we left the last episode 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,600 and I was like, housing is great. 65 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,720 My house will be a empty box with four windows. 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,080 And that's what it had when we ended the call last week. 67 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,120 Well. And one thing we know about you, 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,080 Sean, is you've never stated that something doesn't interest 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,240 you on this show and then taken aback later. 70 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,040 So I I'm fully believing that your house is still an empty 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,640 box. That's right, that's right. 72 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,400 I'm nothing if not super consistent to my takes. 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,720 I consistent in a ironic way, I guess, yeah. 74 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,280 So that is our first story. We are going to be giving our 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,680 first impressions on. Wow housing. 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,960 It looks like I guess Sean is eating crow. 77 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:14,040 Let's start off with that, Sean. I guess housing more interest 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,000 than you thought. So I don't, I don't think, I 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,959 don't think eating crow is the right term because I didn't hate 80 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,120 housing. I just had a lot of doubt in my 81 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,800 own patience and my own skill. It turns out, Manny, I am 82 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,360 incredibly skilled at housing masterly. 83 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,000 I'm a masterful designer. So I left it, you know, I had, I 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,080 had four windows in my, my box. That was it. 85 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:37,200 And it's just because every time I went to make a room up to that 86 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,680 point, I had just like, I would just start going without any 87 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,280 goal, without any vision and I would just start putting things 88 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:44,560 in and it just wasn't working. It didn't didn't line up to what 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,480 I wanted. It wasn't ever, you know, 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,200 hitting any sort of cords in me. Like I'm seeing these beautiful 91 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,320 greenhouses and saunas and stuff that people are building. 92 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,840 I'm like, I'm just making a room. 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,640 And then I was laying in bed on Thursday evening last week. 94 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:08,840 And as it often does, I was struck by a euphoric moment of 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,080 clarity when I thought I know exactly what my house should be. 96 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:18,000 I I was a pretty big fan of the show of Vikings when it was on 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,080 TV. It was a history show. 98 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,600 And so because of that, I get a lot of Vikings things in my 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,640 feeds as I'm joy scrolling at night. 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,080 And so a picture came across, it was Lagertha who was one of the 101 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,520 main characters. And I was like, Oh my God, I 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,080 need to build a Viking hall in Warcraft. 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,400 And from the moment that I had that thought, like I immediately 104 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,080 started like vision boarding Viking halls and seeing designs 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,200 and layouts and putting pictures, saving them and 106 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,160 sending them to myself in my second Discord account. 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,640 And then the next morning, from the point that I woke up to the 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,840 point that I went to bed, it was I was laser focused on housing 109 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,240 and finding what materials are available in the game and 110 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,760 designing and building a Viking hall. 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,640 And that's what I did and it came together really, really 112 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,720 well. It took two days of farming 113 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,480 materials and getting stuff. And I'm really pleased with it. 114 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,040 I did a little video showcasing it. 115 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,880 It's online. And then I opened up my house to 116 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,880 everybody who wants to come see it for friends on bnet or 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,320 whatever you can, you can come look at it. 118 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,440 I love it. I love housing. 119 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,040 But that being said, I don't have any visions for. 120 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,040 So I have 4 houses that I could build two EU 2 Nai built that on 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,480 my aligned side. Nai have no other visions. 122 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,400 So the other three houses don't even exist. 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,800 There's not even a house on a plot for those. 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,480 But my Viking hall turned out really well and a detail that I, 125 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,640 this is the last thing I say. And then I'll, I'll hand it off 126 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,280 with the one detail that I did that is that nothing is aligned 127 00:06:48,280 --> 00:06:51,200 to the grid. So in real life, if you were to 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,280 walk into somebody's house, nobody's house is perfectly 129 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:58,080 aligned the way that some of the people are like designing their 130 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,960 houses in Warcraft and, and a lot of video games are like, it 131 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,120 looks perfectly alike. The chair is perfectly aligned 132 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,720 to the table, which is perfectly aligned to the walls. 133 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Nobody's house is like that in real life. 134 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,880 So every single item in my Viking hall is off somewhere in 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,400 the range of two to six degrees from the grid lines, which gives 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,880 it this really lived in feeling. It feels functional and like 137 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,040 people are actually in here doing stuff. 138 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,120 And it probably drives people that have OCD crazy because the 139 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,760 tables aren't straight and the benches and the tables aren't 140 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,120 straight to each other, but it's because they wouldn't be in real 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,400 life. And I love it. 142 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,320 That's amazing. That's amazing. 143 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,240 So I guess what we're looking for is another late night doom 144 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,440 scroll and or sorry, joy scroll. You call it joy scroll, joy 145 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,920 scroll and suddenly we'll get something on your first EU 146 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,760 account to the house or maybe on your your NA hoard side, 147 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,840 depending on what works best for the theme. 148 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,360 And I love that for you. That is that is great that 149 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,640 you're finding the joy. Has it taken well, I guess you 150 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,000 took two days on it, but that did that like completely absorb 151 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,640 your two days or were you still like bounce the ground doing 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,760 some other things as well in in Warcraft? 153 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,960 I know I spent two days laser focused on doing my house except 154 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,640 for we did our raid re clear on Thursday because we always do so 155 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,840 that 30 minutes 45 minutes it took us to re clear the raid. 156 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:32,320 I was in the raid, but I was in our tank chat talking to my Co 157 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,000 tank about the stuff that I was doing So still just very much 158 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,960 thinking about it yeah, but it was pretty much it. 159 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:42,200 I started doing like afterwards, I was like hooked. 160 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,520 I, I got this weird desire to have everything on one 161 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,080 character. So I started like grinding old 162 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,240 world reps on, on my warrior, which is great. 163 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,520 You throw on the tabard, you go around Botanica 7 or 8 times and 164 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,760 you're done. And you can do that all the way 165 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,360 up to the end of Cataclysm for all the reps. 166 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,120 So definitely recommend that for anybody who's missing those reps 167 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,040 back there. Just go buy the tabard from the 168 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,640 the quartermaster and then run a couple of Botanicas. 169 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,720 OK. And then heading from your about 170 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,160 face to Lex, who and what had the initial enthusiasm? 171 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,000 Lex, how's housing going for you? 172 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Oh, I was completely right about how housing was gonna go for me, 173 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,440 where I go in one day and I build something and then I 174 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,080 forget about it for months. And then I'm gonna get a bunch 175 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,120 of new stuff and I'm gonna be like, what if I checked out 176 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,840 housing at some point and then I'm gonna go do everything in 177 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,400 one night and then I'm gonna forget about it for months. 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,480 So yeah, I've I've forgot about it. 179 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,640 It's so in your cool kitchen. It just, you know, I didn't do 180 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,320 anything in the cool kitchen. OK OK, so in your one one day of 181 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,560 flurry you made a cool kitchen. Any other rooms or anything like 182 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:46,680 that? I have I, I, I so it's basically 183 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:48,720 it's identical to when we talked last time. 184 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,960 I have I, I think it's really cute. 185 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,760 I think it's really fun. I have my nice little living 186 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,920 room. It has a little dining room 187 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,920 table and also a little the desk. 188 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,480 And then I'm a cute little bathroom that has a tub and I 189 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,480 tried to like kind of approximate a toilet and sink. 190 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,600 I was very proud of it. That's, that's my pride and joy. 191 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,160 And then I'm a really big kitchen and I have a bedroom of 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,040 course. And I will say one thing that 193 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,720 annoys me. They might if they change this 194 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:17,320 and I missed it, I'm sorry. When you are in edit mode, you 195 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,760 can only. Remove. 196 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Doors, at least I can't figure out how to open them and go 197 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,080 through them. So you have to every time you go 198 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,040 through a door, you have to go like click out edit mode, open 199 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,960 the door, go through it, click back into edit mode and keep 200 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,280 working. So you know that would be great. 201 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,400 Although I I will say this not to to spoiler alert the rest of 202 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,240 the segment, but the floating houses, which they just 203 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,240 introduced. I am a little intrigued by that. 204 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,400 Sounds very fun A. Little Why don't you just leave 205 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,240 all your doors open? No, when you go into edit mode 206 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,840 it defaults them back to shut. Oh, really? 207 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Yeah, yeah, It's a huge. I don't have any. 208 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,720 I don't have any doors. There's not a lot, not not a lot 209 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,360 of traditional doors in Viking halls. 210 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,240 So I haven't experienced this. Good for you. 211 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Honestly the bathroom was a huge pain because also I like to make 212 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,320 the sink kind of work. I had to kind of clip it through 213 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,400 the wall and anytime it like occasionally would get mad it 214 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,960 would be like this. There's no floor there when it 215 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,600 would have been fine 2 seconds ago and then I'd like go remove 216 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,760 everything and find it and do it all again. 217 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,440 It's fine though. OK, turns out you can make 218 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,320 fountains really small and then they kind of look like look like 219 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,760 sinks. I I'm sure somebody who knows 220 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,520 how to do like people would look at my house and they'd be like, 221 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,960 are you serious? Like that was your little sink 222 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,760 approximation. Somebody else has some beautiful 223 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,480 thing if my pod thought. Sorry if I'm talking to you 224 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:37,760 right. Now, yeah, I also need to eat a 225 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,000 lot of crow. I think last week, Sean was 226 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,160 you're like, oh, I've got a mattress and and like two things 227 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,560 and two windows and like, I was like, yeah, I don't even have 228 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:50,120 that. I spent some time hanging out 229 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,000 with friends. They showed me their place. 230 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,800 I got inspired. I completely turned around on 231 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,600 housing as well, just like you, Sean. 232 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,200 I was like, OK, I'm going to do something here. 233 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,920 I'm going to push through on this. 234 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,000 And for me, it was a matter of like, OK, by the time I look 235 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,600 around, your housing is like Level 3, and you could put all 236 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,520 these rooms in. And I remember when we tested on 237 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,800 the alpha, the first thing, Lex, you did was like, I'm going to 238 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,720 set up all these rooms. And then it's like, what the 239 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,480 hell are we going to do with all this space? 240 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,960 And it was just overwhelming. And so for me, my process 241 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,360 started with outside. I wanted to design an exterior. 242 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,080 And I did that because the outside exterior at 200 is very 243 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,880 limited. And honestly, I, I wanted to 244 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,000 like create like a patio and all that sort of stuff and, and 245 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:47,560 create that friend of the show Rolly Rods had an entire going 246 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:52,840 around his Guild and people who went in to chat and allowed him 247 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,840 to see their homes and showed a bunch of different things. 248 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,200 And so it's like, OK, I'm going to set up a garden and use a 249 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,480 fountain as a full size fountain instead of instead of a faucet 250 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,400 and create a workspace and everything and just create 251 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,400 something that I that I wanted for like my quote UN quote 252 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,560 adventurer, like a place for that he would actually go home 253 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:19,600 to. And then I started building 254 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,600 rooms. And like you, Sean, I didn't 255 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,240 want things to be in perfect square rectangles. 256 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:32,080 I really wanted a lived in cozy kind of feel that like this is a 257 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,920 place that somebody returned to. This isn't a place that somebody 258 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,120 set up as a showroom. This is some place that was 259 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,160 actually lived in. And so, yeah, making sure things 260 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,400 were at different angles, making sure that not everything was 261 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,480 lined up perfectly was it was a big part of it. 262 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,720 And it kept stories going through my head of like, oh, 263 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,080 like when I came back from doing whatever we did in this 264 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,200 expansion, like BFA or leading and stuff. 265 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,920 Like, let me put like a little trophy of that in the into a 266 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,760 room. And then like you, Lex, I was 267 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,240 like, how come these houses don't have bathrooms or working 268 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,400 toilets and stuff? And so I made not only a 269 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:20,560 adjoining joining restroom through my master bedroom, I 270 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,480 also made a guest bathroom downstairs as well. 271 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,240 And it just became this weird little thing I love. 272 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,320 I loved it. Just some of my friends have 273 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,440 done incredible, incredible things. 274 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,880 Right now on early access, you can get to level 5, which is a 275 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,280 lot of space, a lot of different rooms, a lot of budget and 276 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,640 people have done fantastical things with that. 277 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,720 I am nowhere close to that. I've used less than 800 of my 278 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,520 budget to slowly start putting things together. 279 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,560 But I think that's how I'm going to build this place. 280 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,920 It's going to be getting 1 little thing and be like, oh, 281 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,640 where can I place that? Does that fit into my home? 282 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,840 I still got empty corners and stuff that I want to build in, 283 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,080 but it's breaking the 4th wall here. 284 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,800 That's kind of how I live myself. 285 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,120 Like I just sort of like I have my couch, my TV, and then I got 286 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,080 it and then I went to a place and I put that on the bookshelf 287 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,360 and then I went to a place and I hanged that up on the wall. 288 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:31,840 But like when I first moved into my place, buck naked bare walls, 289 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,080 had a partner that was like, what the hell? 290 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,560 And I'm like, no, I just, I travel places, I get experience. 291 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,520 I don't bring stuff. And then she was like, you, you 292 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,520 should collect mementos. I'll say, OK, I'll do that. 293 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,040 So that's how I started building a place. 294 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,400 And I like that I've transferred that same sort of ethos into 295 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,320 World of Warcraft, that it actually supports that too. 296 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,560 So a lot of these things are a little memory of when I like 297 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,600 actually defeated this raid boss. 298 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,760 And so we get the like, Head of Enixia or the like Eye of Nazov. 299 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,720 And that's what it's actually attached to achievement. 300 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,040 I think those really make it feel like this is, even though 301 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,560 I'm sure everybody and their uncle has the head of Inixia, 302 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,200 that head of Inixia is when I was playing with this Guild and 303 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,400 we went through that and I had the quote UN quote, royal family 304 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,320 and all the stories that I could talk about that like really 305 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,640 helps connect to kind of a history of the of the world. 306 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,800 And I. So I'm super happy that housing 307 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,680 allows me to do that. And yeah, but housing has had 308 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,160 some updates. We've only one weekend and 309 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,600 they're already making some some updates based on that. 310 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,680 And Sean, do you want to cover this? 311 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Yeah, So that housing budget you mentioned, it was 200, which 312 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,240 everybody on the planet in every Ave. they can think of has given 313 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,120 the feedback that they need more. 314 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,480 And Blizzard did say, hey, we started at 200 because we didn't 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,720 want the servers to melt. And we, we will slowly increase 316 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,480 that as time goes on. And so it is now unlocked when 317 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,599 you hit rank 3 in the renowned track, you get 250 for your, 318 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,880 your outside housing budget, which it only sounds like 50, 319 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,960 but that's a huge jump. You could do a lot more things 320 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,920 with that. So get your trees out there, get 321 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,680 your fences. And then the other thing is the 322 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,119 floating houses that Lex mentioned. 323 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:26,280 So people last week had figured out ways to put platforms down 324 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,440 and then put their house on top of the platforms and then delete 325 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,160 the platforms to make the houses float and blister. 326 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,880 Had actually just the initially planned to hot fix that as a bug 327 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,360 and they actually had an OPS channel set up where they were 328 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:42,240 going to shut it down. Zorbrix tweeted this on Tuesday 329 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,280 that the plan was to shut it down and they had somebody come 330 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,440 into the channel and just link 5 houses that have been made. 331 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,680 And they were so blown away by the creativity that instead of 332 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,160 removing the functionality, they made it a feature. 333 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,920 They said, we're going to keep it. 334 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,840 We're going to double down. It's now available to be done by 335 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,400 default. So you don't have to do the 336 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,800 weird pixel stacking platforms to get it. 337 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,360 You can just do it. And that's pretty cool. 338 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,480 I think that's a huge W for the team. 339 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,280 And you know, a lot of times we'll say, oh, fund detected and 340 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,440 they nerve something. But this was a case where fund 341 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,560 was detected and they supported it. 342 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,040 The dev team, the, the part of the dev team that's behind 343 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,120 housing has just, it's been home run after home run. 344 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:26,240 And it's so nice to see the accolades are getting. 345 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,720 And the, I don't know if he's the head of the housing division 346 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,400 or if he's just the most vocal, but there's a dev on Twitter, 347 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,200 His name's Jesse. And every morning I just imagine 348 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,040 he must wake up and scroll through Twitter and just get the 349 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,680 biggest smile ever. Because if his feet is anything 350 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,000 like mine, it's just tweet after tweet of these beautiful houses, 351 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,760 these beautiful designs people have made. 352 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,640 And now Mr. GM made an add on to help people with their cameras 353 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,360 so they can get smooth camera pans. 354 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,640 So now we're getting beautiful videos of these houses. 355 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,720 It just it's it's it's really nice that they housing 356 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,480 completely shifted the conversation away from anything 357 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,600 else to do with midnight. And it's strictly now in like 358 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,840 look at how awesome and cozy this is. 359 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,240 And even the people who aren't enjoying housing, you don't hear 360 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,760 from them. They're not out there Pooh Pooh 361 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,000 and people stuff. Nobody's out there like down 362 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,800 voting houses that are being built. 363 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:25,080 It's just pure unfiltered joy pumped right into my veins every 364 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,640 time I open my feeds. I love it. 365 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,560 I'm really glad housing is here. I can't wait for my next 366 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,360 inspiration to hit. That's awesome. 367 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,960 Don't read too far into the comments. 368 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,160 There's always somebody who's like, oh, they're finally 369 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,200 getting held and like this. There's always, there's always 370 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,080 somebody. I never read the comments. 371 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:44,400 Just can't just shut up and let people have their fun. 372 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:50,400 Yeah. So I'm really glad that housing 373 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,920 is inspiring so much joy for so many people and giving that 374 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,440 outlet. I think just a non competitive 375 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:04,280 form of expression in World of Warcraft is really such a such a 376 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,640 joy. So I'm glad for that. 377 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,960 Turning towards more traditional stuff though, we have raid 378 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,640 testing. We had a number of raid tests 379 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,240 over the last week, both for Mythic and over the weekend we 380 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,800 had normal testing as well. I did not get a chance to do the 381 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:30,440 Mythic testing just because I had to focus on real life for a 382 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,640 week. But I did get in some of the 383 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,200 normal raid testing. And Sean, I believe you also did 384 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,560 some mythic testing as well. I tested the first two out of 385 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,400 the three bosses that were sorry, I did all four of the 386 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,880 bosses on Thursday and then I did two of the three bosses on 387 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,720 Friday. I actually didn't do the last 388 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,920 boss. I was at that point so 389 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:01,040 frustrated with the raid testing that I left the the testing 390 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,560 group that I was part of. I was like, I'm just not. 391 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,920 I can't do anymore. I can't do this last boss. 392 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,600 I need to walk away because I just am at a point now where I 393 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,600 nothing of value will come from this for me. 394 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:19,760 So I didn't do the last boss. It was testing. 395 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,240 It was testing. But they have announced the just 396 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,680 first thing I would like to say, Blizzard, if you're listening 397 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,640 and you might be fasdev from myself and everybody else that I 398 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,480 know, like every single person who is willing and eager to test 399 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,800 these raid bosses. Please, for the love of all that 400 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,160 is holy, stop giving us 4 hour testing sessions. 401 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,120 Because by that fourth boss, you're not getting anything 402 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:54,320 constructive from anybody. Because we're all just like we 403 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,240 don't even a lot of girls don't even raid Prague for four hours 404 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,680 at a night. You're asking us to do 4 hours 405 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,080 in the middle of the day on bosses that are buggy, with UIS 406 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,840 that aren't functional. It's it's too much. 407 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,920 Please, 2 is ideal. Three if you have to. 408 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,640 I beg you, please stop at the 4/4 bosses in one testing 409 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,800 session. It's, it is awful. 410 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,800 It's awful and it just makes me more angry and it taints the 411 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,680 previous like by the time I get to that fourth boss, I'm just 412 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,480 like exhausted. It's like I have to do another 413 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:32,120 boss and so the ones previously just start to start to suffer. 414 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:33,280 I. Would. 415 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,000 Think yeah, there's no prog joy. There's no joy at all, Lex. 416 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,560 There's no I immediately have to log off and go look at a bunch 417 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,600 of housing, please. So yes, at this rate, John will 418 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,880 give up his sword for plowshares. 419 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Unfortunately, yeah, but in. General though, so you asked me 420 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,760 about raid testing that they announced that there is new raid 421 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,760 testing coming on December 19th. We're doing the first 3 bosses 422 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,320 of the Void Spire. Again, this is mythic testing. 423 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,200 I'm not surprised because all three of those bosses felt very, 424 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:12,240 very not ready. Like very not ready. 425 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,560 I'm going to quote Stripe, who is the the GM and raid lead from 426 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Echo, and his tweet perfectly encapsulates my feelings on the 427 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,000 testing that we had last week. And it was I can confirm that 428 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 these bosses do not look easy without weak auras. 429 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520 They also would not look easy with weak auras. 430 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,040 So it was a lot, yeah. Do you feel like these are all 431 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,720 issues that can be tested out though? 432 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,360 Like, does it feel like it's just they kind of need to do a 433 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,400 little tweaking and like, understand how things work a 434 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,920 little better or are you concerned on a higher level? 435 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:58,560 I am certain that the way they look, the way they looked last 436 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,920 week will not be how they look when they go live in March. 437 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:10,800 I am even more certain now that's, I don't want to say 438 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,360 certain, but I am even more convinced now that these, the 439 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:19,600 design of these bosses started before the decision to limit the 440 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,280 combat API came down the pipeline and that they're now 441 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,200 being changed to meet the reality that they live in These 442 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,520 bosses, none of them feel as if they were designed from the 443 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,880 ground up for the new world that we live in. 444 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,680 And that's, that's my biggest concern is, is that they feel 445 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,120 like they were designed for a world where we had access to a 446 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,080 lot more information. So. 447 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,160 One thing that I noticed that changed from week to week are 448 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,640 tic tac toe boss the dominus when those portals like well in 449 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,400 mythic, there's a there you now have a bubble that you have to 450 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,000 pop in your and there's like the extra complication. 451 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,360 But when those portals did explode in previous testing on 452 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:10,520 heroic, it was this swirl of pools that came out from it. 453 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,840 In mythic it looked like it was more just straight shot lines 454 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,200 where it would go out. Yeah, yeah, it was gone. 455 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,480 And the the added a mechanic where you have to dispel. 456 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:28,080 So 10 people get a debuff, you need to get 5 dispels on an ad 457 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,360 to break its bubble so that you can then put the tank soak on it 458 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,360 to kill it. And you have to do this on two 459 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:36,480 different ones. There is almost not enough time 460 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,880 to do this. Like naturally we had we were 461 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,040 lucky we had which we had three, but we had two priests so we had 462 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,680 two master spells. First boss of the raid on mythic 463 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,760 should not require a 2 priest healing comp. 464 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,640 It should. There needs to be less of these 465 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,640 that you need to to debuff less the spells required. 466 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,400 And right now it's like a hard requirement of you need to have 467 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,120 two priests. This first boss just going to 468 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,120 say. 5 is a lot of dispels. It's a lot. 469 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,760 And there's, there's, it's not like they gave us extra time. 470 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,440 So there's like we, there's three enemies that spawn that 471 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,200 each have a Dome and then two of those enemies, the Dome has to 472 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,080 be broken and then you have to hit them with a tank soak 473 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,360 mechanic. The debuffs go out almost 474 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,840 immediately there. I think there was like 3, three 475 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,680 to five seconds before the tank soak comes. 476 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,240 So you have to be pre stacked on the first one. 477 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,720 You want to pop hit your five dispels. 478 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,640 You're just randomly dispelling people because there's no way to 479 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,880 pre assign this. And then if you're one of the 480 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,440 five who wasn't dispelled, you need to then be running to the 481 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,560 next one that we're going to pop while the group takes the soak. 482 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,400 On the first one. The tank soak happens right away 483 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,440 and then there is just enough time to get the boss to the next 484 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,920 one and have already had it popped to then put the next tank 485 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,200 soak on that one. It was extremely tight timing 486 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,360 for a first boss. It was it. 487 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,640 It definitely felt like it was designed with them expecting 488 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,040 that this coordination of who was getting dispelled when and 489 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,400 who was going where was going to be handled by a week. 490 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,120 Or is is how it felt to me. This is just on mythic, doesn't 491 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520 happen on heroic. Well, I, I still maybe I'm 492 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,960 losing my mind. It's been a few years since I've 493 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,440 healed, but I'm kind of losing. Like I I'm trying to do the math 494 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,880 on like how long before your dispell cool down goes off. 495 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Just. You have you have just enough 496 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,800 time. Yeah, it's like it can. 497 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:34,760 It cannot be done like without some sort of mass or people 498 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,440 helping. I don't know what kind of effect 499 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,200 is it? Is it a magic? 500 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,920 Debug so it is. But you can't. 501 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,920 You absolutely cannot have an extra like you have to know 502 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,640 exactly who is dispelling when because you only have 10 and it 503 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,560 takes 5 to remove the Dome, so you have to have exactly 5. 504 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:58,000 So if somebody if a warlock singes off their debuff and they 505 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,760 weren't supposed to, and then the five healers each dispel 506 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:07,160 one, well now you can't do the next. 4 But again, like you, you 507 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,600 could have them move to the position and then remove it, 508 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,960 which is what you need to do to do if you don't have a a mass 509 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,240 dispel, because it's just if they're out of position and it 510 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,840 gets removed, you don't get the bubble. 511 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,480 They have to be in position and then you dispel. 512 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,760 So as soon as those go out, if you, if you have quote UN quote, 513 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240 well, I've assigned 5 people assigned by a week or to go over 514 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,840 there. That's the level of coordination 515 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,400 it almost feels like. Exactly. 516 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,280 It feels like it was designed that a week or was going to 517 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,680 split the group into two. Five people with a debuff, go to 518 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,360 1/5, go to another. That's how it felt. 519 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,120 Could it be changed? Yeah. 520 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,760 Give us more time, but then you're fundamentally changing 521 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,200 all of the timers of that boss to push up more time or have it 522 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,400 be less dispels required. You know, give 10 debuffs and it 523 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,880 only takes 3 to drop the there's a couple different ways it can 524 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,840 be done. It just it was not a good tone 525 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,000 set. It was the second boss of the 526 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360 day that we tested. The first boss of the day was 527 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,760 oh, no, sorry, that was the first boss of that day, but it 528 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080 was not a good tone set. It did not feel, did not feel 529 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,560 good at all. And none of the, I mean none of 530 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,040 the bosses it was it was. I have been, I have raid tested 531 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:23,840 every boss that's been testable since the first raid in Dragon 532 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,840 flight. So since Vault of the 533 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,040 Incarnates. And this was the first time that 534 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,720 I left early and I won't, I won't be going to the testing of 535 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:39,520 the 19th. So pretty, pretty grim from you 536 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,080 on that side. This is a good cause to to say, 537 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,200 hey, they have scheduled that additional testing. 538 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,960 Are these three bosses that you see here the ones that you feel 539 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,520 are most problematic on Mythic? No, Fallen King Salador didn't 540 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 feel Fallen King Salador wasn't terrible. 541 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,720 It wasn't fun, but it wasn't terrible. 542 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,080 It probably just needs a little bit of tweaking. 543 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,720 The first boss definitely needs work. 544 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160 The second boss we don't even. Yeah, the second boss definitely 545 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,320 needs work. Because I couldn't even tell you 546 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400 how the mechanics function on that second boss. 547 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,560 Or some things that just didn't seem to be working at all. 548 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,280 You soak an orb and it's supposed to cause the circle to 549 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,440 be less big than it when it explodes, and it just wasn't the 550 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,800 size just wasn't changing it. So yeah, I don't know what. 551 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,160 And like both Dragons, when we tested it in Heroic, one dragon 552 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,280 was in the air and one was on the ground, and then they 553 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,840 switched. But when we tested it on Mythic, 554 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,040 both were just on the ground to start, so I don't know if that 555 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,640 was intentional or if that was a bug or or what. 556 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Feel like if it was a bug they would have either fixed it in 557 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,160 later part parts of the testing or they would have shut it down 558 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,880 and be like hey it's not testable in this form because 559 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,760 it's the hard bug. That we get awful yeah, I don't 560 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,520 know. I don't know. 561 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,600 So I I don't think they're the worst. 562 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,200 I think the first the the dream rift boss I think is by far the 563 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,800 was in the worst state. I there's just so many issues 564 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,840 with that boss. I don't even know how to 565 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,680 describe it. But yeah, these were these two 566 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,000 of these three were not great. Fallen king was OK. 567 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,840 OK. So then I'm glad that they're 568 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,880 doing another round of testing that they are that are bringing 569 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,360 them back. I'm hoping that they do do see 570 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,120 improvements. As for my normal testing, it 571 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:41,520 wasn't as threatening as Mythic. Obviously I've difficulty aside, 572 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:48,400 I find that these fights don't feel compelling, like there's 573 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440 not a strong narrative to what's going on in it. 574 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,720 In these fights, they just seem like mechanics that are put 575 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,480 together. It might be just my bias of 576 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,800 like, well, this is no name dominus #4 and this is that. 577 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,840 So like when we get to something like the light blind, and I 578 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800 won't say anything more just because I want to avoid 579 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:18,480 spoilers, but the light blind, I know those characters, but it 580 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,960 still just seems like a spasm of like different glowing effects. 581 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:32,040 And I liked how when we were doing the demon hunters in our 582 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:38,000 current raid right now that it felt like Demon Hunter abilities 583 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,280 that were being done. The light, the light blinded 584 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,120 doesn't have the exactly the same thing. 585 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,080 There are a few hammers flying around and so forth that are 586 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,880 like, OK, that's there. And I guess I wouldn't want 587 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,000 puddles lasting forever, but they, they kind of do, which 588 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,120 makes me feel like our regular guys boost. 589 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,480 And so like that's the one that I more closely say is like, oh, 590 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080 this is, this is a, a story because the narrative's there 591 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,000 and because the abilities more closely relate to something that 592 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,760 I, that I know. But so many of these fights feel 593 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,160 just there to fill in the space. Like, I'm Boss six, I'm Boss 7 594 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,280 and I, I, I think that the team has done better in the past. 595 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,880 I'm hoping with some shifts that this will be more compelling. 596 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,680 Maybe it's a it's a matter of tuning, because like when the 597 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,840 fight is tuned just right, that like, stuff that doesn't seem as 598 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,760 compelling isn't as important. And the stuff that's compelling 599 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,680 are the things you got to pay attention to. 600 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,160 Yeah, that can be, that can be a great fight even if there isn't 601 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,720 a full cohesion. But I I just don't feel like 602 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,480 there's a cohesion. John, any like comment on that? 603 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,800 No, it just feels like it feels like I'm doing a raid from Wrath 604 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600 or BC. the IT, it feels like that design like that. 605 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,040 That's yeah, I bet the asthma gold crowd would love these 606 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,760 raids. So that's, you know, it's two 607 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,159 mechanics, mechanics you have to only have one of the time to 608 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:21,880 deal with. So just it's it's disheartening 609 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,280 for me because Manafort Omega is one of the the best raids I 610 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,199 think I've ever done. And it has arguably my favorite 611 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:33,080 boss ever and two other bosses that were like they're in the 612 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,000 the pantheon of great bosses, you know, in forge Weaver and 613 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,280 Nexus king. And then dementia is obviously 614 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,440 the one I was talking about being the being my favorite ever 615 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,440 it and coming out of the raid testing for Manafort, like I 616 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,840 came from that raid testing thing like this, I was like, I 617 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,560 have I have receipts where I said this raid is going to be 618 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,800 amazing. These bosses feel ready. 619 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,440 This feels awesome. Now, maybe it's because we're 620 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,480 three months away from the raid launch that these bosses don't 621 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,200 feel as polished. And maybe there is more that's 622 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,040 going to go into them and they're going to be drastically 623 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,120 different by March. But as it stands right now, you 624 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,480 know it's on par with how I felt about Sepulchre and I, spoiler 625 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,440 alert, did not love that raid. So we'll see. 626 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,800 OK. I don't, I don't think that this 627 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:24,600 is anywhere close to as bad as your as you might paint it. 628 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,160 I feel that. Like obviously I didn't do many 629 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,720 times. I was running through heroic, I 630 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,760 was running through normal. How many times in normal or 631 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,440 heroic did you ever have to deal with more than a single mechanic 632 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,440 at a time? That's BC and Rath error rating 633 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:48,560 1 mechanic at a time. I I would say that even if I was 634 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,920 in like Mist of Pandaria, which has a number of fights that I 635 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,040 love, Lei Shen was amazing. I felt that the garage fight was 636 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:05,040 also was also quite a feat that was still like an evolving 637 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,600 fight. But one big thing that you're 638 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,960 dealing with at a time, maybe like you would have issues where 639 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,880 it's like, oh, we've let these ads last too long or we've got 640 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 the balls rolling across and we haven't quite cleaned up exactly 641 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,680 what we needed to and that would cause issues. 642 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,360 But obviously there's like the tank Buster that's going to 643 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,920 force this switch and stuff that's that's quasi overlapping 644 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,600 and these fights have that as well. 645 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,280 I don't think that I want to go all the way back to Wrath and 646 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:38,680 BC, but I would put this at like Mr. Pandaria, Warlords of Dre, 647 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,400 Noor in terms of like what add on what it's throwing at me. 648 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,600 I think that's a more fair thing. 649 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,440 OK, so just 15 years old instead of 20. 650 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,680 All right. I'm happy to settle there. 651 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:03,440 But but again, mileage may vary what what they do with this new 652 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,240 era. I think you might be right. 653 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,720 It is something where they're trying to triage things that are 654 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:14,600 based on what the new reality is rather than being truly built up 655 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,600 from from the ground up, which kind of points back to like 656 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,640 maybe they should have just allowed an overlap for a for a 657 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,320 season. But we'll leave that aside 658 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,360 again. Friday, December 19th, we've got 659 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:36,200 three fights starting at 2:00 Eastern Standard. 3 fights will 660 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:43,320 be a Verizian Voracius and Fallen King salad bar. 661 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,880 And I will say it just because I know Sean was avoiding saying it 662 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,160 for so long, but we got to actually say what fights these 663 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,640 are anyways there. Was the first three in the voids 664 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,080 bar. Is Fallen king in the first 665 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,120 three? I thought it was a bit a little 666 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,640 bit later. No, first three. 667 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,280 OK. Yeah, so there, Manny. 668 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,360 I did tell the people. Yeah, you avoided their names, 669 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,360 is what I was saying. Don't. 670 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040 Don't assume our. Listeners were. 671 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080 Intelligent. Enough to know who the first 3 672 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,040 bosses were. Yeah. 673 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,160 You assumed our listeners were dumb. 674 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,000 I assumed our listeners were intelligent. 675 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,880 You're welcome, listeners. OK. 676 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,680 Well, Sean, if you want to congratulate our wonderful, 677 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,040 wonderful listeners, they're amazing intelligence and of 678 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,520 course, they're continued patronage, could you do a little 679 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,280 thing? OK, I want to give a personal, 680 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,240 heartfelt thank you to all of our patrons, but especially to 681 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,000 Louis F. Or Louis F if you're French. 682 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,320 Maybe for hearing my cry last week of begging someone to join 683 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,840 the Patreon so that I wasn't confused again by what was 684 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,200 written in my script. For Azeroth Will Always Be Free, 685 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,440 but if you enjoy the content we produce, please consider 686 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,800 pledging to our Patreon at patreon.com/for Azeroth. 687 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,200 And if you're a patron and you join the For Azeroth Discord at 688 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,200 Bit dot LY slash Fast Discord, you now have access to a very 689 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,560 new Patreon hangout text channel where we mostly just shit talk, 690 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,560 but it's fun and you can hang out with us there if you don't 691 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,080 want to be a Patreon. 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Well, I feel like, I feel like 700 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,680 it's assuming this is the Lewis FI. 701 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,760 Think it's the Lewis FI feel like he deserves. 702 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,440 Also a little bit of an extra special shout out because this 703 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,520 man has been a real one on Spotify for ages. 704 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:48,600 Assuming I'm the same, Lewis leaves like a number of comments 705 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,360 and everything on Spotify. Yeah, it's the same. 706 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,320 It's the same, yeah. Super nice I I went through like 707 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,840 a little phase when I was feeling a little. 708 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,760 Maybe this is a peek behind the curtain too much, but sometimes 709 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,000 feeling a little bit sad about. Things and it was always very 710 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,080 nice to go on and see like oh look I. 711 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,640 Love it, he likes. Episode so thank you Lewis. 712 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,200 I appreciate you my man. Is he the one that said I was 713 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,120 negative and incoherent? No, of course, he said. 714 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,440 You were negative and incoherent. 715 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,160 He's. Checking. 716 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,920 He's checking. You're still listening, 717 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,400 commenter. I grabbed myself to sleep. 718 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,400 This compared to You've already forgotten their names like you 719 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,040 were. It wasn't that important. 720 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,000 Manny, I can't remember the name of every bot that says I'm 721 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,920 negative and incoherent. I do also appreciate the fact 722 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,280 that like I was in here being like, this is somebody who 723 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,760 always has the sweetest comments and you're like, yeah, I met Lex 724 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,440 is reading like Sean is negative and incoherent and he like, 725 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,480 thank you so much for saying. That Lex needed to pick me up. 726 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,440 But yes, obviously we read your comments. 727 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,400 We, we appreciate your support. And with that, we're going to 728 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,880 turn towards dungeons, which have been getting some dynamic 729 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,760 changes over the last week. They were away for Thanksgiving, 730 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,320 they came back. And this week we've got a new 731 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,880 list of dungeons to test as well as a number of fixes to the 732 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,760 dungeons. So this week we've got the Pit 733 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,840 of Throne. We have three other dungeons 734 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,320 that I cannot remember off the top of my head. 735 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,000 I'm sure Sean will point it out eventually, but we've seen a lot 736 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,600 of changes for all of these dungeons just in general. 737 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,480 Some repeated trends have been that many abilities have been 738 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,240 reworked either to add further mechanical clarity. 739 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,120 Sean, you were talking about those birds that were igniting 740 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,360 and turn the ash and then being reignite. 741 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,560 We were talking about like, what is that Venn diagram and how 742 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,400 frustrating a fight that would be. 743 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,840 They completely rework the visuals on that to be an egg 744 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,080 that gets highlighted when it is in danger of being reignited. 745 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,280 The when the guys first land, they don't just immediately 746 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,120 ignite the rest of them. They have a decay time so that 747 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,040 they will eventually die as well. 748 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:12,680 So it's it's a lot better, it's a lot less frustrating. 749 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,600 They have heard the cries from people giving their feedback. 750 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,080 People just like you. As long as you're not just 751 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,720 complaining into the void, they're listening to feedback 752 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:27,640 and the list of changes have been amazing It for these 753 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,600 dungeons increased cast times for things. 754 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,920 Something that was like instant cast, that was a three second 755 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,400 cast. Some things that were like 2 756 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,560 seconds got doubled to four. We're seeing along with the 757 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,240 damage profiles being changed, we're seeing rot damage instead 758 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:49,160 of being like just like intense quick rot damage extended it out 759 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,840 a little bit. And then that same amount of 760 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,360 damage is over a long period of time. 761 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,320 That gives you more time to actually heal. 762 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,160 That's an adjustment based on all of the burst healing that 763 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,280 they were talking about last week. 764 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,280 I mean, like, oh, we got to bring that back. 765 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,520 Well, then they also change the dungeon so that you don't have 766 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,320 to quickly heal it to everything that's happening. 767 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,280 The last thing that I want to point out is the Dragons in 768 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,080 Algathar Academy, also one of the dungeons being tested this 769 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,920 week. Instead of shooting out two 770 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,720 clones or images that do the whirlwinds, now it's only one 771 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,720 that's far less space denial means that these done that these 772 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:39,320 Dragons without adjusting, they're like flat out how much 773 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,800 damage it's doing are are less dangerous, less less threatening 774 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,600 to pushing people out of range or denying melee or forcing you 775 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,480 to run into it in the next pack at that last little bit there. 776 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,240 And I love this change it. I didn't even think about it, 777 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,280 but it's so elegant when you see it online. 778 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,960 John, what's your thoughts on these changes? 779 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,000 WS across the board, yeah, They addressed almost everything we 780 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,960 complained about, not complaining about. 781 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,760 They didn't complain. Everything we whinged about, 782 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,080 they oh, that's worse. Whinging. 783 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,440 Yeah, Whinging is worse. I thought that was the. 784 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,320 Joke. Yeah, that was the joke. 785 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,800 All of our feedback was addressed almost directly in in 786 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,920 Pit of Sauron and Skyreach specifically. 787 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,440 We didn't really have any feedback for Seed of the 788 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040 Triumvirate or Algathar. We had some for Algathar Academy 789 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,320 and they didn't address all of the Algathar Academy stuff. 790 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,840 But no, it's a it's a win across the board. 791 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200 Yeah, this is it's the worst. Terrible. 792 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,240 Yeah, it's over. The season's over. 793 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,160 Really happy with with these changes. 794 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,600 Great communication from the team. 795 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,320 I'd like to get more than just four dungeons a week that I'm 796 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520 sure is coming at some point, but we're back to testing these 797 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,160 ones. So it'll be good to test these 798 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,440 this week to see these changes, see how they feel. 799 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,640 And hopefully this means that the dungeons from last week are 800 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,840 coming out with their own set of changes when they recycle back 801 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560 in again next week for the Christmas break. 802 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,120 If you can give us all 8, that would be great because I 803 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,280 understand that you're taking two weeks off Blizzard, but not 804 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,080 I'm not, so I need something to do. 805 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,400 So please let me have access to all eight of the Season 1 806 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,920 dungeons. Just me. 807 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,320 Yeah, just flag my account. That works for me. 808 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,480 Sean, why don't you, why don't you come visit me as a friend or 809 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,200 family? Go visit family, spend some time 810 00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,680 with friends and family over the vacation time. 811 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,440 You don't need these dungeons. Manny, visiting you would cost 812 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,120 me somewhere in the range of seven to $800.00, so. 813 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,120 I get it. I'm not worth it. 814 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,760 I get. It I'm going to how much how 815 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,280 much did Louis F donate to the Patreon? 816 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,760 Is there something you're not telling us? 817 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,240 But no, I'm really excited. The changes look good. 818 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,040 The the ones in sky rage specifically they, you know, 819 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,560 they added visual effects that were missing that needed to be 820 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,640 there, which we we expected they would. 821 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,080 And this seeing how quickly they turned around some of the stuff 822 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,320 from the dungeons and there's still work that needs to be 823 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,080 done, especially in the UI side of it where we're getting there. 824 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,480 But seeing them just with this quick turn around in the 825 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,320 dungeons, it gives me hope that they'll be able to do the same 826 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,200 in the raid. We just need to see it. 827 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,800 We need to see a patch note that says, I, I wish with the 828 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,760 announcement of raid testing, it would say, here's some changes 829 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,080 we made to this boss so that we have an idea we're going in 830 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,240 because you go in blind in every situation. 831 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,520 So you're like, OK, well, what happens? 832 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,240 OK, well was and like in some cases it's like was there any 833 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:29,080 changes at all or we just now seeing if the damage meter is 834 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,680 tracking dispels because it wasn't last week. 835 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,680 So you know it's it's you turn on the little dispelled thing 836 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,400 and just nothing shows people are dispelling. 837 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,720 I see debuffs from being removed, but nothing is in this 838 00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:42,280 little meter. I. 839 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,560 Once again, point to our proactive feedback sign. 840 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,680 Let me, let me tap that and yeah. 841 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,880 Yeah, but if they let us know what what the change over? 842 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,440 No, this this looks good. Dungeons look good. 843 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,360 I'm happy for the changes. They're they're staying agile. 844 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,280 We should stay agile as, as list as testers, which is what we are 845 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,280 at this point. So it's really going to be like 846 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:12,320 a joint joint. Thing cooperative effort. 847 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,800 Yeah, yeah, there we go for the for the for this season, 848 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,720 especially Season 1, they're doing such a big thing, they're 849 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,440 making such big changes. They need as much from us as we 850 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,920 can give them to make sure that it's good. 851 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,440 And if we want it to be good, we need to be giving that feedback 852 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,280 and helping. If you don't want it to be good, 853 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,360 just quietly build your house until it launches and then 854 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,320 complain that it's bad. Or give the reverse feedback 855 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,800 like be like, I actually want 5 whirlwinds. 856 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,400 I think that would be a lot prettier. 857 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,880 Just to confuse things, shake them up. 858 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,920 You will not be able to guess what podcast you listen to. 859 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,000 Don't you worry about that. That's right, you'll have no 860 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,000 idea. I don't. 861 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,880 Know the next. Three points this person's going 862 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,560 to make. Yeah, immediately that sounds 863 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:58,360 like a lexer Ants comment. OK, let's let's little little 864 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,480 sidebar, because some people in content creation were upset 865 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,440 about that little comment for me and about like yeah, yeah, it it 866 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,000 and I and some is not just like one or two. 867 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080 There was, there's some people who took umbrage with that. 868 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:19,400 And to those people, I want to say it was something you should 869 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,680 take as a compliment. Your words reach people. 870 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,960 Your words influence people. One might start to call you an 871 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,920 influencer somewhere along the line. 872 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,320 And I need you to understand that what you should take away 873 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,880 is not my audience is stupid and just parrots what I say. 874 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,720 What you should take away is that your words hold power and 875 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,720 maybe you should talk with some nuance. 876 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,720 Maybe not everything should be anger and snark. 877 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,880 And I, I, I hate you all and they all need to be fired. 878 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,840 Maybe like some reasoning should be in your discussion. 879 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,760 That's it. That's my soapbox. 880 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,720 I'm off of it. Pass it along. 881 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:04,200 See. I can't. 882 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,800 Content creator, am I just a Leo? 883 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,120 Because if I learned that somebody could immediately like 884 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,120 somebody was saying something and somebody else not only was 885 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,080 the first person saying something that I said, but 886 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,320 somebody else could recognize they said something that I said 887 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,120 that is like the pinnacle of my existence. 888 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,680 Like if that if that ever occurred. 889 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,760 So much validation I. I've won. 890 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,480 I've won content creation. I'm taught. 891 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,040 Yeah, like literally we had how many people messaging being like 892 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,320 it's a lot in the discord on the thing that's already happened 893 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,760 that made. Me so happy. 894 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,960 And it's still like people are going back through the catalog 895 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,960 and doing it's happening on episodes where we don't even ask 896 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,920 for it to happen. It's like people, Lex has a has 897 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,560 an episode in the middle of one of our recordings. 898 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,080 And the next time that goes live, people are like, oh, Lex 899 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,160 needs to hear that. It's a lot. 900 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,520 We should. I love our listeners. 901 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:57,920 Yeah, they're the best. They're the best. 902 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,800 I'm not going to touch that because I have I'm supposed to 903 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,640 have a good working relationship with content creators, so I 904 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,840 won't say how I feel about people who took that 905 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,360 offensively. You can like I wasn't I like I 906 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,920 feel. Just going to let them live in 907 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,960 their little boxes. OK. 908 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,600 All right. Now, now I kind of want to now I 909 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,720 wonder who you were talking to on the last weekly lever. 910 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,120 I'm sure you record those live, though. 911 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,040 I could possibly figure that out. 912 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,680 No, no, no relation. No relation. 913 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,840 Just coincidence. Anyways, that's going to do it 914 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,640 for us today. I've got some housing to get 915 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,720 back to. One thing I definitely want is 916 00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:45,920 after I finish talking with you, Lex, Sean, I want a picture of 917 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,080 your house and we're going to make it the. 918 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,120 We're going to make it the thumbnail, the with the long 919 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,680 haul, the Viking long haul, that is going to be the thumbnail for 920 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,360 this episode. But until next time guys, may 921 00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,360 all your hits be good.