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Yeah, I I don't consider the the
workforce part of like your main

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play the. 
Employees aren't people. 

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For capitalism, no. 
Corporate Manny is here for the.

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Karen Tour. 
For. 

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Pandaria for calendar. 
To the. 

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Burning. 
Region. 

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For Gilnaeus, but has not died. 
For the Lich King, for the 

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Sindori. 
For the Alliance, for the Horde.

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For Azeroth. 
Hello everybody, and welcome 

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back to another episode of For 
Azeroth. 

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I am one of your hosts, Manny, 
AKA the true villain Manny, and 

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joining me today are two parts 
of The Triumphant completing the

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trifecta. 
We will start with, of course, 

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Lex. 
Lex, how are you and how's the 

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World of Warcraft been treating 
you? 

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Oh, the World of Warcraft's been
treating me so well, Manny. 

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I've been popping right along. 
I've been having the time of my 

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life. 
This is spoiler alert. 

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I guess I'm enjoying the War 
Within. 

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OK, OK. 
And going to the absolute Sultan

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of salt who may not be so salty 
this week. 

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Sean, how you doing? 
Manny, Manny. 

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Manny. 
Manny. 

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Manny. 
Manny. 

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Oh Manny. 
I'm doing good. 

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I am doing good. 
The war within has reignited all

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the fires within. 
That that is good to hear. 

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That's good to hear. 
And it seems like Lex is in 

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agreement. 
We should just dive right into 

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it because like our weekend Wow 
is of course, like what this 

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story is going to be because The
War Within is here. 

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We've been playing it. 
We've been playing it through 

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early access. 
We've been playing it it in the 

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launch. 
And of course, we took a break 

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from that to do this episode. 
You guys are welcome. 

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I was thinking about whether I 
could do another delve before we

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got into the episode and I was 
like, no, I have to log on. 

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It's like, oh, Sean said he was 
going to be late. 

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Maybe, maybe I could just grab 
Bran and jump in. 

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Maybe literally. 
That is exactly what was going 

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on in my head. 
So they like Full disclosure, 

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Sean is not skipping meals he 
did eat before this podcast. 

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So at least we got that that in.
I, I, I've just been really 

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enjoying it. 
So let's break this down. 

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Let's do this chronologically, 
OK, right. 

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So we get through with the show.
Thursday rolls around and guys, 

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it's go time for those with the 
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So when I ask each of you, what 
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access time? 
Like what was your kind of 

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structure? 
Did you take full advantage? 

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Did you miss some days? 
How did it go? 

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Let's start with you, Lex. 
What did you do with your early 

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access? 
So I got early access, I logged 

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in. 
I was like, this is going to be 

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story time. 
This is the the days that I'm 

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going to spend doing the story 
and only the story. 

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I get in, I start doing the 
story, I'm laser in like I am 

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focused. 
I am snapped. 

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There's no, you're not getting 
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And then the story says, we're 
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exciting thing. 
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You can do one. 
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then they were like, you can, if
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And I was like, are you serious?
I can do another delve. 

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And then I finished that delve. 
And then they were like, if you 

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were so inclined and you could 
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And I was like, hey, yo, you 
know me. 

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And so I immediately got my to 
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And then I was like, I'm going 
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And then they were like, there's
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And that was the saddest day of 
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And then I did the story again. 
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delves, doing the delves, 
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4, which is currently locked 
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story. 
Did you get through the story on

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day one? 
Did you marathon? 

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Did you say, OK, I've got this 
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back through? 
Like what was the continuating 

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story? 
You got to 80 though, right? 

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I did get to 80. 
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three days, like on Sunday is 
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I am while I may be youthful 
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deeply middle-aged and so I I 
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I will be going to bed at 11:00 
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an hour before so I can read 
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just going to be too jittery to 
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So I've been trying to log off 
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So no, I did not. 
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and in fact I still have the 
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left to do. 
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giving gear and I was just 
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It's been kind of hard for me to
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I'm like, I could go do world 
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delves. 
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locked out of gear from delves. 
I cannot gain anything from 

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delves except the joy of doing a
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Wow, I am so glad to hear that 
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I mean, like we will talk about 
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My experience with Dells is a 
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I am sorry to say. 
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Dells, but it might be beyond 
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Like there is like I got all the
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get the upgrades and people like
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And I'm like, yeah, but I could 
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where it's the furthest possible
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foot into a delve again. 
I, I, I think I actively loathed

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Delves right now. 
I got, I think I got to wait for

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them to get more difficult or 
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see that smoke and I'm like, 
Matt might as well be a brick 

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wall. 
Turn around. 

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Sorry. 
Sorry, Lex. 

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OK, so you. 
Continue to have the time of my 

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life. 
I don't know what's going on 

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over there, but best of luck to 
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OK, well you know what we could 
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hypothetically, we could see if 
your Internet works with my 

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account in delves just for 
science reasons so that I can 

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get that stuff done for legal 
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I am joking. 
Wow, I fully pulled a Sean on 

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that one. 
It did. 

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That's my line. 
You stole my line. 

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Like, wow, shades of Sean, but 
going to the genuine article 

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then Sean, what did you do with 
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I Manny I I'm going to steal a a
quote from a friend of the show 

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Pico and I'm going to say that 
the early access weekend felt 

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like a spa day. 
It was a spa vacation. 

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I went in, I went in with the 
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My my plan for early access was 
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on North America, 1 character 
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I started doing the quests and 
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there, the Isle of Dorn and 
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screw all that. 
I threw that whole plane out the

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window. 
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those four days going through 
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getting Sojourner locked up for 
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you could get it and then down 
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a fall, which you then were able
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launch and one of them. 
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immersed myself in the story, 
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war within. 
And it was the best time. 

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I wasn't, I didn't even stream. 
I stopped streaming completely. 

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I was like, I'm just this is, 
this is for me. 

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This isn't for the audience, 
this isn't for my friends. 

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I'm not hanging out in discord 
with anybody. 

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This is me and these stories and
I, every zone has like one major

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lodge quest quest chain that 
just gutted me. 

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And I, they resonated with me 
and I loved them. 

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And up until this morning, I was
ready to become a lamplighter. 

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I was gonna, I was forsaking 
mythic rating. 

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I was forsaking dungeons. 
I was going to become a 

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lamplighter NPC in Hallow Fall 
for the remainder of the war 

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within. 
That was gonna be my role. 

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But all of that changed today 
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that unlocked globally today, 
unlocked in the EU today. 

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And that was the Storm Rider 
chain. 

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And Manny, Oh my God, I am ready
to be a storm rider. 

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I am ready. 
I'm so glad that The War Within 

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is when you're going to discover
role-playing. 

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Let me know if you need a 
vampire. 

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Yeah, Lex, hook me up. 
What is this? 

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Like, I'm like, OK, so Lex, what
did you do? 

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And instead of like, oh, yeah, 
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hang up with my. 
She's like, I was locked in on 

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the story. 
I'm like, who am I talking to? 

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Like what? 
And then I'm like, OK, OK, fine.

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That is a little bit of that. 
Let's go over to Sean. 

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Sean. 
So what did you do Manny? 

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I relaxed and I went about my 
own Merry Wade did nothing. 

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Did somebody replace my Co host 
here guys? 

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Yeah, it's bizarro world I had. 
So at the end of the early 

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I have all of my other 
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I went and got the crafter 
crafter cash that you got for 

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picking up crafting things there
and got a bunch of enchanting 

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mats. 
And then I have 3 characters who

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all happen to be blood elves who
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mules to specialize in different
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I'm not gonna I I don't have any
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the war Within. 
I'm going to play just my 

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warrior who is a disenchanter 
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The story is just so good. 
The zones without early access, 

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and I know we're going to talk 
with this soon, but without 

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early access none of this would 
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I would have been locked in on 
raid prep from the beginning 

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that four days. 
Like I said, that's spa weekend.

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Let me meander it. 
Let me to quote Pandaria slow 

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down. 
It's like you dilly dally. 

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That's what I've been saying. 
I spent all my time dilly. 

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Dally, dilly dally. 
Dilly dally dace baby wildfire 

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it. 
Was great, I loved it. 

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Oh, and I also hate doves. 
Wild. 

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Blowing my mind. 
OK, OK. 

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Have you have you at least done 
the delves needed to for the 

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like campaign slash get like the
Rep and all that? 

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Have you done those? 
No, I stopped. 

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I didn't do the 2IN ashkahet, I 
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I only did one of the ones in 
hollow fall. 

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I actively so I I play tank. 
There is. 

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If you play tank, there is no 
fail state in delves. 

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You cannot. 
I don't. 

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I don't even know how I got up 
and walked away from my desk, 

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came back and there was two mobs
hitting me and Bran just kept 

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lobbing healing potions at me, 
keeping me alive while I wasn't 

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even at my desk. 
If you are a tank, I was just 

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like Bran, just let me die. 
Really, this feels like Nirvana 

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for you. 
It's like oh sweet I can AFK 

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forever in person so. 
That's my issue is there's no 

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fail state, so they just become 
monotonous and long. 

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And it's like, I know I can't 
lose and knowing I can't lose, I

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just want you to be over. 
Just be done. 

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There's no challenge, there's no
risk, and it was I hate to say 

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it, but you know this was only 
up to Level 3. 

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There's no challenge expect to 
level threes. 

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That's that's for those who are 
listening who are right now 

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screaming at their car radios. 
Of course you couldn't die. 

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It's a Level 3. 
I understand that I played them 

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up to a level 8 on the beta. 
It's the same. 

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There is no fail state for 
tanks, which then just makes 

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them tedious. 
They become a chore that I have 

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to do. 
They are Tor gassed 2 point O 

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for me. 
But the good news is once I hit 

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like week 4 and I've done up to 
a level 11 or level 13 or 

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whatever the Max is and gotten 
my achievement, I never have to 

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go back. 
OK, OK. 

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As for me, I obviously marathon 
that first day. 

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I went eight hours, got my first
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character took me a couple days 
because I actually leveled that 

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through mining and Irving. 
That was the the quote UN quote 

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farming mule that went all the 
way through. 

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And then the third character, my
warlock, I actually only have it

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76. 
I want it. 

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I ran it through dungeons to 
like grab a bunch of a bunch of 

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stuff to disenchant and 
everything. 

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And my 4th character is I think 
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that. 
But like generally it was first 

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get my character up to 80 be 
have that ready. 

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Second character was like 
maximized gold making on on the 

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gathering. 
And my goal was, oh, you know, 

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I'll make like 100 KA day and 
that will be like good. 

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My goodness, those first couple 
days just blew it out of the 

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water. 
I did miss a couple of days, of 

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course, because of because of 
the personal matters that I had 

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to attend to. 
But I, I was, and I think I 

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still am in just full like 
frenzy on trying to keep 

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everything going. 
Because as soon as I think, hey,

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I'm getting on top of one thing,
they unlock heroics and now I've

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got to go gear up through 
heroics and going through that. 

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They have two new story chapters
that came out today. 

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They're both amazing. 
I I'm only through like one of 

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them. 
You should quit your job so you 

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can so you can play Warcraft. 
That's that is an official for 

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as our author recommendation to 
everybody, you should quit your 

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job to play more war with it. 
Just be a streamer. 

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It works. 
We can all be streamers. 

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You can do it too. 
Can we get the Shawn disclaimer 

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before we get into? 
Trial for legal reasons, I am 

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not a career advisor. 
Please do not quit your jobs to 

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become a streamer. 
It's incredibly difficult to 

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make that a full time career. 
Thank you. 

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Oh, I honestly, I wish I had 
more time like I it's, it's just

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a great time to be playing the 
World of Warcraft right now. 

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The there's all this stuff to 
do. 

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I haven't even had a chance to 
really farm mounts. 

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I recorded the first episode of 
Hail Xalatath, which is my lore 

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podcast because apparently I 
don't talk enough about Wow 

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here. 
So now I'm talking about World 

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of Warcraft. 3 hours a week over
two podcasts plus because, you 

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know, we rarely keep this under 
an hour and it's just it. 

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Like I am enjoying every part of
this except for Delve. 

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Sorry Lex, there's just a lot to
do. 

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The auction house has just been 
on fire. 

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They had to take it down just 
this evening. 

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I don't know what's wrong with 
it. 

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We had prices all over the place
when it was early access and it 

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was so fast that I just stopped 
trying to list it like I use 

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TSMI. 
Just stopped trying to list it 

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with TSMI, went in and I would 
go, OK, here's something like 5 

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levels down that might be like 
200 or more percent over what 

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the current thing is. 
And I'm like, I'll list it there

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because I know it'll sell right 
down to there. 

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I was just making so much gold 
and that was great. 

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And be an auction house goblin 
being fun is not something that 

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I have experienced for a long 
time since like BFA when I was 

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trying to get the auction house 
mount. 

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Did you guys find anything that 
you, well, I mean, Sean, you 

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just explained how you're now A1
character player. 

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Per region. 
One character per region, OK. 

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That would have been clear like.
One character per region, OK. 

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But it'll be a little bit before
I jump on the EU region. 

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But yeah, I want 1 character per
region. 

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OK. 
Not including not including my 

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enchanting mules. 
Yeah, I don't consider the the 

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workforce part of like your main
play. 

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The employees aren't people. 
For capitalism, no. 

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Corporate Manny is here. 
No, like, I mean like I've got 

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what, 11 level 70s or higher, 
right. 

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And I don't count them as like 
even alts. 

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They're just there because I use
them to just like see lore and 

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stuff. 
I wanted to explore the story of

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the of the mage and so I made it
a mage and that will go through 

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the Legion storyline and all 
that stuff. 

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But it's like they're one sneeze
away from deletion. 

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They don't count for anything. 
They've got like 5K each to 

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their name. 
Just in case I need to buy 

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something and I leave. 
I leave them there. 

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You have. 5000 gold on 11 level 
70 characters. 

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Manny, do you want to give me 
some? 

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Money, Sean. 
Sean over there is just like 

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splurging on on tokens left to 
right. 

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He's like, oh you know what, I 
need 600 K, let me just buy up 

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two tokens. 
We're not no, we're out of we're

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we're in the post Farrock mount 
sale season. 

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So I'm flush right now with gold
token season doesn't come around

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till like the midpoint of the 
the expansion. 

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Y'all, I reached 80,000 gold by 
just like working the auction 

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house during early access and I 
was like I'm so proud of myself.

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This is such a big achievement. 
I have so much money. 

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So yeah. 
Sometimes I listen to you to 

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talk respectfully and I'm like, 
oh wow, I, I am. 

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I'm a casual, but joyfully I'm a
joyful casual. 

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What about you, Sean? 
Have you been doing any auction 

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house stuff? 
What is what is your nest egg 

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saved from postphyrax season? 
You're like at one or three 

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million. 
I was so it was 2.1 mil total. 

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I had 1.4 in my war bank and 
then the rest on my main and 90K

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on a Demon Hunter for some 
reason. 

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Just logged me in and found it. 
That was nice but I have not 

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been So everything that I've 
gotten so far all I have been 

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levelling up. 
Like I mentioned enchanting on 4

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characters and alchemy on one 
character and I would just 

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mostly just buy the mats that I 
needed off of the auction house.

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Obviously with enchanting I was 
able to disenchant a lot of 

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stuff that I got through the 
levelling process and through 

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the heroic dungeon spam, but I 
have not sold anything yet. 

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I've been dumping the enchant in
the Gill bank for Gill this to 

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throw on their stuff and I 
probably I might I have a hard 

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time. 
I am. 

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I'm one of those RPG people who,
at the end of every Final 

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Fantasy, had 99 elixirs, just in
case. 

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So I have been fishing and I 
have food and meat and stuff 

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from from questing that I'm 
like, OK, I could just dump this

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on the auction. 
Or saying people like Epidemi 

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and other people who are much 
smarter than I am, much better 

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at making money than I am, have 
said sell it now and when you're

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ready to level cooking, just buy
it when it's cheaper. 

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But my brain is like, or you 
keep it now so you have to buy 

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less later in case there's an 
emergency fish shortage. 

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No, that's true. 
That's true. 

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There could be. 
Tip to everybody. 

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I know there's like a tip 
section, but I have to, I have 

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to say this to everybody 
including my Co host right now. 

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Yeah. 
You sell everything now. 

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Even if you have to buy it all 
back. 

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Everything you sold back a week 
from now, you will still get 

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everything you sold plus a 
healthy margin of profit. 

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It's just. 
Keep your bag clear. 

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No, no, no, you guarantee, 
Manny, can you guarantee right 

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now on episode 291 and four 
hours are off that the fish 

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prices are going to go only go 
down from where they are? 

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Can you tell me that with a 
certainty? 

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There's no chance. 
Fish prices are going up with 

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certainty. 
Like this is the least nuanced 

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style bee. 
I am willing to pay you the 

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difference if they are higher 
than they are right now. 

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Pick a fish, any fish. 
Blizzard just released a new 

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blue post there cutting fishing 
rewards in half. 

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Doesn't even matter. 
They could do that. 

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It wouldn't even matter. 
See, Manny, what we should. 

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Do those are just hot fixed? 
We need to trade account 

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information, so then you can 
auction all of my stuff and I 

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can do Dallas for you. 
This is legal. 

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This is OK. 
OK, wait, wait. 

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Sean, please do the disclaimer 
again. 

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For for legal reasons, Manny and
Lex will not be sharing accounts

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to log in for each other. 
Yeah, it's sometimes like we 

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just we need to switch brains 
for a little bit so we can get 

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the stuff done. 
What you need to do is like, you

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just need to go visit Manny at 
his house while he happens to be

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logged in, and if he gets up to 
use the bathroom, you can move 

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his character so that it doesn't
get killed in a delve. 

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That's so true. 
Move it right to the office. 

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He does have to play a Demon 
Hunter though. 

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I won't play anything else. 
I spent three hours playing my 

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priest on stream and it has 
convinced me that I made the 

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right choice switching to Demon 
Hunter and I will not we we got 

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to zoom. 
If you're not nooming, what are 

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you doing? 
Would you say you were not 

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prepared for priest? 
I was not prepared. 

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Well, I I I get the joke. 
It's a funny joke. 

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The issue potentially is that 
I'm like, I yeah, I was not 

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prepared for priest. 
Never mind. 

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I take it back. 
You're right. 

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We're just sticking with that. 
Thank you. 

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I also would have accepted. 
No, Sean. 

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No, I wouldn't say that. 
No, Sean, I would never say 

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that. 
OK, so then the next part of it 

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is with early access, people got
their fun spa days, they got 

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their time to concentrate on the
lore. 

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They got their time to dive into
whatever money making scheme 

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they thought they could pull 
off. 

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But we also had other things 
that happened once launched, it 

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happened and there was a lot of 
unrest before the official 

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launch happened. 
A lot of people feeling like 

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they, like the FOMO was in full 
effect was really what was 

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happening. 
And it didn't actually get 

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better once launch came around 
because we had several 

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communities that seemed very 
intent on just, I guess being an

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elitist full on top hat monocle.
Oh ho ho you guys, you launchers

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finally cobbled together the 
copper to finally get over to 

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the Isle of Dorn. 
And I wish I had just 

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spontaneously made those lines 
up. 

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But some people decided to go 
full transmog, wait at the wait 

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at the Isle of Dawn and mock 
launchers with this little RP 

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that they did on RP realms. 
And if that wasn't bad enough, 

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because that was like, you know,
you could ignore it or you might

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have missed it underneath all of
the initial events that were 

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happening on PvP realms or not 
on PvP realms, but it people who

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had war mode on. 
Unfortunately, when they got to 

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the Isle of Dorn, it wasn't the 
Nauruvians that were the most 

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dangerous threat. 
It was actually other players 

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that had decided to form up into
gank squads and slaughter all 

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the 70s right as soon as they 
crashed down from Dalaran and I 

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wish this was a one time thing. 
But much like rear hunting or 

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farm groups, there were many 
listings for gank squads around 

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Dal to get the launchers. 
And that is absolutely tragic. 

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Lex, your eyes say that you had 
not heard about this. 

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No, I hadn't heard of any of 
this. 

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I thought we were all just happy
little campers who were inviting

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all of our besties back into the
game. 

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Like, hey, you all, thank you 
for making launch so easy 

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because there was so little 
server pressure when we were 

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coming in. 
Now it's your turn. 

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Look, she's evil. 
Like I thought we were having a 

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good time. 
And honestly, Lex, it was, it 

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wasn't even the people, just the
people who were partaking in it.

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There were streamers out there 
that were like, well, you guys 

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are idiots. 
You should have turned off war 

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mode. 
What the hell were you were you 

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thinking? 
Isn't. 

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PvP servers like war mode 
required like I don't I don't 

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think you could on PvP. 
No, no. 

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Oh, I don't know all. 
Servers now have the option of 

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turning war mode on and off. 
You can only turn war mode. 

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Actually you can turn war mode 
off at any rested area. 

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You can turn war mode on at any 
major capital city like Storm 

447
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:38,080
and Orgemar or places like 
Valdrakan or Dornegal now as 

448
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,440
well. 
But when you are landing in from

449
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,720
Dalaran and Dalaran's no longer 
there for you to turn it off 

450
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,480
there and you haven't done any 
of the questing so that you can 

451
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,120
fly over to Dornegal and turn it
off there, you are in a very bad

452
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,720
situation. 
Well, and also that, you know, 

453
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,080
not to sound like someone's mom,
but even if everyone who didn't 

454
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,160
want to get ganked went in turn 
off war mode, that doesn't 

455
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,040
change the fact that the people 
like had a goal of making 

456
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,840
people's launch experience 
worse, right? 

457
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,160
And again, I don't play PvP 
because I hate PvP, so I don't 

458
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,560
fully understand the dynamics of
a PvP server. 

459
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,360
I know that you guys love 
killing each other. 

460
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,520
It's your favorite activity. 
If everyone's happy, everyone's 

461
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,560
happy. 
But if people were not having a 

462
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,880
good time because of it, vibe's 
still there, you know? 

463
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280
It's it's a very different thing
because I typically like to 

464
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,880
level with war mode on. 
There's an experience bonus. 

465
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:39,480
There's also a kind of increased
camaraderie when you could 

466
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,840
attack each other, but you are 
so both focused on what you're 

467
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,000
doing that you don't. 
And like, there's also a bit a 

468
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,800
bit of tension for when you are 
at like certain points and 

469
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280
there's that alliance group 
there and I might want to save 

470
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,720
my cooldowns. 
Like there's, there's a lot of 

471
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,800
reasons that playing with war 
mode on works for me. 

472
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,120
And there's, there are times 
when it just doesn't work and I 

473
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,960
turn it off. 
If I was looking back and 

474
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,320
managed to like think about this
beforehand because I didn't even

475
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,240
think about it, I would have 
been like, oh man, I would have 

476
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,600
made sure war mode was off and I
would not have done that. 

477
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,080
But like hindsight 2020, victim 
blaming or whatever it is, it is

478
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,160
like you said, the the intent 
was there and the intent is what

479
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,320
makes it so bad. 
John. 

480
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,440
Yeah, throwing it to you. 
What was your take on all of 

481
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,360
this? 
People suck I guess is my take 

482
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,760
there. 
So at first I thought the RP 

483
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,880
screenshot that went around 
where the guy was like let's 

484
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,480
welcome the launches as they 
scraped together their copper. 

485
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,520
I thought it was meant to be. 
And I still hope part of me 

486
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,960
still wants to believe that it 
was meant to be a light hearted 

487
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,880
mean. 
You know what I mean? 

488
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,280
It wasn't meant to be mean 
spirited. 

489
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:58,040
But unfortunately, Twitter has 
shown, again, I, I didn't see 

490
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,480
the names personally 'cause I 
have so many people muted and 

491
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,360
blocked. 
But I have seen that there are 

492
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,800
people who have given proof to 
the fact that they actually 

493
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,760
believe some of these things, 
which is shitty because there 

494
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,000
are so many reasons somebody 
might not have had access to the

495
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,440
early access, whether it's 
through funds or through 

496
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080
whatever disabilities. 
There's so many reasons why. 

497
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160
So we shouldn't be trying to 
like class divide each other in 

498
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,160
a video game. 
The government does enough of 

499
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,240
that already in real life. 
Sorry, that's a joke. 

500
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,440
Actually, for legal reasons, I 
don't actually think that Canada

501
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,480
is a great government. 
Yeah, the PvP thing, I don't. 

502
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,080
I like Lex. 
I don't PvP because I would 

503
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,920
rather put my fist into a food 
compactor than the PvP because 

504
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,360
that's how it feels. 
I get angry, I get frustrated. 

505
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,360
There is no world where the 
extra 10% experience makes up 

506
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,480
for the lost time in running 
back to my corpse, running back 

507
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,280
to my corpse and waiting for 
this be able the ability to 

508
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,040
respawn my death corpse. 
Crawling my way to a rested area

509
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,280
to turn warm mode off. 
Getting into the rested area, 

510
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,040
turning warm mode off and then 
having to go back and find where

511
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:14,040
I was questing. 
Yeah, so I, I understand. 

512
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,480
I, I, I get it. 
Some of those people just 

513
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,120
wouldn't know. 
Some of them would have been 

514
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,480
experienced to be peers who 
would know. 

515
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,680
Hey, you know what? 
We're all really shitty to each 

516
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,840
other all of the time. 
Maybe I should not go in here 

517
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,000
with warm mode on? 
OK Lori, let me let me defend 

518
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,600
the PvP like obviously there is 
the obnoxious view and with a 

519
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,120
ten level. 
A10 level, anybody who was on 

520
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,640
the beach farming level 70s, 
they're the shitty ones. 

521
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,360
So if you went to the beach, 
you're a PvP and you went to the

522
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,320
beach or the landing zone to 
farm people loading into the 

523
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,680
game at level 70 and have your 
laughs, you're you're kind of a 

524
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:57,840
garbage person. 
But also that isn't just the one

525
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,160
faction that's doing it. 
It was both factions. 

526
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160
When those two people or those 
two groups meet up, they'll 

527
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,960
start, they started fighting 
each other. 

528
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,400
There became a protect our side 
versus the other one. 

529
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,000
And that is that can be a very 
cool organic like let's attack 

530
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,640
South Shore or let's attack 
Crossroads sort of sort of 

531
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,720
moment where it's like, let's 
defend the launches against 

532
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,400
these attacking 80s. 
And then it becomes this big, 

533
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,120
this big war. 
And I think that can be a very 

534
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,440
cool moment if the, if it's a 
reaction, it's like a counter 

535
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,960
protest almost. 
And that can be a lot of fun and

536
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040
redeeming for the PvP community.
That's fair and I I was 

537
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840
wondering if there wasn't some 
degree of people gathering to 

538
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
fight back. 
And like again, I want to be 

539
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,000
clear, I don't PvP because I 
don't like it. 

540
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,040
I don't like any of the vibes. 
I don't like the energy as in 

541
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,720
like the I don't PvP in 
anything. 

542
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,720
It's not like I only don't PvP 
in World of Warcraft. 

543
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,920
So I will defer to like if PV 
peers want to tell me actually 

544
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,160
this is normal and fun and we 
were all having a good time and 

545
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,160
we just love to have massive 
repair bills. 

546
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,080
I'm not a PV peer. 
No skin in the game. 

547
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,320
Fib in our chat said it is the 
people, it is people hunting 

548
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,840
people that is like bullies 
picking on freshmen when they 

549
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,080
enter the school. 
Yeah, like that, That's the kind

550
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,960
of mentality that kind of 
started it. 

551
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,400
And I think that like the 
fighting back, that is the the 

552
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,880
redeeming part. 
Just one gets way more coverage 

553
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,760
than the than the other because 
it is the inciting incident 

554
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,720
really. 
Yeah. 

555
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,920
I mean, I think this all to some
degree kind of speaks to, I'm 

556
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,680
jumping the gun a little bit, 
but I wasn't really in love with

557
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,600
the idea of early access. 
And I think that to some degree 

558
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Early Access proved that because
part of the joy of a new 

559
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,840
expansion is that you get 
camaraderie, right? 

560
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Everyone is having this big 
joyous experience together. 

561
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,960
And we're all like hyping each 
other up and we're all feeling 

562
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,200
so excited and energized and 
like happy. 

563
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,520
And we're, everyone's in their 
discord talking away about 

564
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,240
what's going on. 
And like, that's a, a thing that

565
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,120
the community shares. 
And I think what Early Access 

566
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,720
did to that is by dividing the 
community, those of us who got 

567
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,400
in early, at least in the 
communities I was in, it was 

568
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,880
really exciting and energizing. 
But it kind of felt a little 

569
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,120
bad, like we had to have our 
little spaces away from other 

570
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,960
people. 
And it felt bad to know that 

571
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,040
there were people who wanted to 
be there with us but couldn't be

572
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
there with us. 
And then the people, when you 

573
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,240
did get into the the normal 
launch, I obviously wasn't 

574
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,880
there, but my vibe was that it 
maybe didn't feel quite as 

575
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,200
glorious and exciting because 
half the people in your group 

576
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,240
had already done this and they'd
all gone through this experience

577
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,000
and they're already level 80s. 
And so they're all doing, you 

578
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,240
know, getting achievements that 
spoil parts of the story that 

579
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,360
you didn't know. 
I don't know if that's true. 

580
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,160
But like that then sometimes I 
got an achievement. 

581
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,200
I'm like, whoopsie, sorry to put
that on in Guild. 

582
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,960
So like emotionally right for 
the the community at large. 

583
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,000
I wasn't in love with early 
access technologically right. 

584
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,440
It was so much better. 
It was 99 million times easier. 

585
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,880
I like there were a couple like 
people sometimes disconnect when

586
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,560
they fly. 
Would they like try to launch 

587
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,520
with dragonfly? 
Whatever, I'm sorry sky writing,

588
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,840
but overwhelmingly just 
everyone's experience was better

589
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,880
and I think part of that is 
because server load. 

590
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,760
Was so. 
Much lower. 

591
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,120
And then they also had a chance 
to test issues with a lower 

592
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,239
server load, so that when they 
did have a higher server load, 

593
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,400
it was less of like everyone's 
crashing out every two minutes. 

594
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,600
So. 
No, to your point, Ian had said 

595
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,360
just directly that there were 
issues that they were able to 

596
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,320
catch that would have been way 
worse if it had been a full 

597
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,960
release. 
And so early access helped 

598
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,680
smooth out a lot of that. 
I had basically no issues or 

599
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,560
like no major issues during 
early release. 

600
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,960
Like I had sometimes where I 
couldn't interact with somebody,

601
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,640
so I had to like walk away from 
them and come come back. 

602
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,320
But like just really small 
issues at best. 

603
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,040
I actually had my first major 
issue on launch when the 

604
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,160
authentication servers went down
and I couldn't get back in. 

605
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,720
I was supposed to be chaining 
heroics. 

606
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:30,440
And I'm like, I guess, I guess 
that's my night out of the way, 

607
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560
which sucked. 
So I think early access 

608
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,080
definitely helped smooth out a 
lot of technical issues for them

609
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520
there. 
Sean, what about you overall? 

610
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,400
Do you think early access yay or
nay? 

611
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,280
What's your reasoning behind it?
I don't want to speak for any 

612
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,200
community other I only speak for
myself and my own experience 

613
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,640
because anything I say to like 
as a generalized statement of I 

614
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,000
think it was like this for 
others is going to be painted by

615
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,960
my own bias. 
For me. 

616
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:08,600
I enjoyed the early access. 
I think like Lex mentioned and 

617
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,200
you just mentioned, it helped a 
lot with preventing making 

618
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,040
taking errors that could have 
been major errors and making the

619
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,440
minor errors. 
And the experience of being able

620
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,120
to log in and having four days 
before any pre season work had 

621
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:30,400
to start really allowed me 
personally to immerse myself 

622
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,280
more in the story of the war 
within that I might not have 

623
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,720
done until months down the road.
And I feel like I, I got, I got 

624
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,680
better engaged with it. 
Yeah. 

625
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,400
So I'm, I'm a big fan. 
Do I would I like to see it be 

626
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,440
open to more people? 
Yeah. 

627
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,760
I think I would prefer I was 
going to buy the Epic edition no

628
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,000
matter what. 
So to me, it never felt like buy

629
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,600
the Epic edition, get early 
access. 

630
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,240
To me, it was, oh, you bought 
the Epic edition. 

631
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,480
Well, here's some early access 
as a bonus. 

632
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,600
I was going to buy that Epic 
edition no matter what, right. 

633
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,520
And there's lots of people I 
think who are in that boat that 

634
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,000
we're going to buy the Epic 
edition no matter what. 

635
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,240
But I would like to see it be 
available. 

636
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,840
I think the way Final Fantasy 
does it is probably what I would

637
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,720
feel most comfortable with from 
a moral standpoint where anybody

638
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:23,160
who pre-orders the game gets 
early access and any version of 

639
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,200
the game gets that early access.
Whether there's a cut off date 

640
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,960
prior to by this date to get 
earlier or whatever. 

641
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,120
I think that that feels a little
better for me. 

642
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,000
I I don't want it to be a case 
of if you can't afford to play 

643
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200
these four days, then you don't 
get to play these four days. 

644
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:41,200
That would be, I think would 
also be a lot more joyful in my 

645
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,840
opinion, because like the the 
other hand, the third hand of 

646
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,280
all of this is that this was the
first launch that I didn't feel 

647
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,320
anxious, right. 
Usually when an I'm a very slow 

648
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,840
player, I love to dilly dally. 
As I said, I love to go around 

649
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,120
collecting herbs. 
I like doing little side 

650
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,280
stories. 
I like bopping around. 

651
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,760
I'm still at item level 553, 
like I just passed the level 

652
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,720
that I'm able to do heroics. 
I am a very, very slow player 

653
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,480
and usually what that means is 
that like the second day after 

654
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,640
launch, people are like, wait, 
you're not 80 yet or you're not 

655
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,960
like Max level yet. 
What's going on? 

656
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Come on, raid's coming. 
We got to go. 

657
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,680
We got to go. 
And they don't, to be fair, they

658
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,560
don't say it like that. 
To be clear, my Guild is very, 

659
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,240
very nice, but that starts to be
the energy I'm getting of like, 

660
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,840
oh God, I'm behind. 
This is bad. 

661
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,920
Everyone is so far ahead of me 
and I'm not going to catch up 

662
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,480
and I'm going to be behind for 
the entire season if I don't 

663
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:32,480
move. 
An early access meant that I 

664
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,800
didn't have to do that, right? 
There were three days that were 

665
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,400
just time to vibe, time to hang 
out. 

666
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,880
If you want to do a delve three 
times in a row, do a delve three

667
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,680
times in a row. 
Like, who cares? 

668
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,640
And. 
Then maybe go buy a bottle of 

669
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,440
wine or something because you 
obviously need a drink. 

670
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,360
I'm kidding. 
I'm sure Dell's a great. 

671
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Listen, listen, Sean, like, come
on, come on. 

672
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,920
She obviously had the drinks 
before because she thought of 

673
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:06,920
doing Dell three times in a row.
You get and then like, wait, 

674
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,120
then you're like, it's 
beneficial to go look at random 

675
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,080
places around the map because 
there might be a little curio or

676
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,480
even a chest there. 
Oh, it's so fun. 

677
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,760
And then you get to pull the 
whole room and you get 0 I be 

678
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,040
when everyone's dead. 
Oh, it's very fun. 

679
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:26,920
I loved. 
We need a delve stream, Lex. 

680
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,600
I just got to see the joy to 
like realize this is that's what

681
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,880
we need. 
I need to do another bet so you 

682
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:40,720
can do another stream. 
That said, for me, I, I think 

683
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:48,360
what I got out of it is that 
they need a pre season with 

684
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,720
significant length. 
I remember previous expansions 

685
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:58,880
where there's being like a month
or more before the raid would 

686
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,360
launch and that would allow 
people to like take their time 

687
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,760
leveling up. 
And even if there was like, you 

688
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,520
know, some gear that was 
available through like dungeons 

689
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,560
and such, it was available on 
how many different resets that 

690
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,000
you didn't feel like you had? 
To get it immediately and so 

691
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,000
like with the current gear 
structure, maybe what they did 

692
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,920
ahead of launch where it's like 
we're going to cap how far you 

693
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,840
can get ahead. 
It's going to be just normal 

694
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,200
dungeons. 
You can only do Dells up to this

695
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,080
point. 
Professions are capped to this 

696
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,960
point. 
Maybe if they had even with the 

697
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,360
early access, let's say they 
continue into early access where

698
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,240
they have three days, 3-4 days 
ahead. 

699
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,960
If they had like a week after 
that where it's like now 

700
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,360
everybody who else launches gets
this initial like low period. 

701
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,200
I like, I think it would slow it
down and allow people to do what

702
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,680
they needed to or what they felt
they wanted to without feeling 

703
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,880
that rush. 
But I don't think you can have 

704
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,400
that low period too long because
then people are really just 

705
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,480
going to get bored out of it. 
They're going to like the people

706
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,440
who are like power plays are 
like I need to I want to do 

707
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,240
stuff. 
You can't cut out the gameplay 

708
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:22,360
underneath them for too long. 
It has to be a Marge a a length 

709
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,080
of time that they don't feel the
stress, but they can feel like 

710
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960
they're they're getting ready to
get into go go mode. 

711
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Because Sean, you're a person 
who plays at that at that mythic

712
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,040
level, who loves pushing 
yourself against difficult 

713
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,880
content. 
Yes you said it was a spa day 

714
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,880
but like there's a difference 
between a long spa weekend and 

715
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,440
I've been unemployed for a month
like what the hell am I supposed

716
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,520
to be doing? 
Would you agree with that? 

717
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,760
I do 100% I think. 
I think the four days was the 

718
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,680
perfect length, but I don't 
think you can I don't think you 

719
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,600
can add like I don't think you 
can do a four day early access 

720
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,600
and then another week of it 
because blizzards timelines are 

721
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,760
just going to be too tight. 
They've already told us we're 

722
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,840
getting more expansions faster. 
So they're they don't have the 

723
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,560
time in the schedule to throw 
weeks away like that and we lose

724
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,600
heroic weeks. 
We only are getting heroic week 

725
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,560
this season, season 2 and season
three. 

726
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,960
There is no heroic week window. 
It's patch launches, one week 

727
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,160
prep raids open on all 
difficulties, so you're going to

728
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,040
be at even at a more breakneck 
speed then. 

729
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,560
So I didn't hear this so. 
Yeah, they've said that right 

730
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,840
from the beginning of the fact 
that the heroic week is only bad

731
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,480
for the first week because there
is so much to do at the start of

732
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,800
the expansion and the gearing up
is happening. 

733
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,040
And that going into season 2 and
season three, they do not expect

734
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,200
that there will be a heroic 
week. 

735
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Ian and Morgan Day have both 
given multiple interviews where 

736
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,480
they said that. 
OK, I totally must have missed 

737
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:59,000
that. 
I also love when we get into the

738
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,080
story and such and I'm not 
focused on like, oh, I've got a 

739
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,280
blaze through this. 
So I can get like whatever is 

740
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,320
that renowned 20 that we had in 
a marriage or cell or blaze 

741
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,800
through this. 
So I get whatever power up and 

742
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,480
then go into into the raid. 
So I was kind of hoping for the 

743
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,880
heroic week. 
But if they say it's going to be

744
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,120
OK, we will see. 
Before we get into the next 

745
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,160
part, we have a new patron. 
Sean, can I get you to read that

746
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,840
out? 
Yeah, definitely. 

747
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,240
In the bustling markets of 
Stormwind, past a mat, a jovial 

748
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,400
mage conjured enchanted noodles 
that spiraled through the air to

749
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,960
letting children and adults 
alike. 

750
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,120
His magical feast not only 
filled their bellies but also 

751
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,000
fortified the city's defenders, 
strengthening them against the 

752
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,560
looming dark threat. 
The grateful citizens of 

753
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,480
Stormwind celebrated Pastor 
Matt, their whimsical wizard who

754
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,800
nourished both their spirits and
the resolve. 

755
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:01,760
Pastor Matt is clearly a hero 
for Azeroth, for Azeroth. 

756
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,280
We'd like to give special thanks
to our new Patreon pass to Matt 

757
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,320
and all of our patrons. 
FAZ will always be free, but if 

758
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,680
you enjoy the content we 
produce, consider pledging to 

759
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,880
our Patreon at patreon.com/FAZ 
and. 

760
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,160
Honestly, guys, we put out two 
extra episodes in the last two 

761
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,760
weeks. 
I'd love to keep doing that if 

762
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,440
there is support for that. 
If there are people who want to 

763
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040
hear from that, just let us 
know. 

764
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,440
You don't necessarily have to be
a patron. 

765
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,160
It just helps us a bit. 
Maybe get Lex a a nice little 

766
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,120
backdrop for herself. 
Get Sean that that like webcam 

767
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,040
that he wants so we can see 
Shadow going. 

768
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,360
Lance is offended. 
She loves her backdrop. 

769
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,920
So that was back from when you 
had the the women Den. 

770
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,800
Yeah, the the we're no longer in
Femden. 

771
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,080
We have. 
You can actually even see my 

772
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,840
fancy little collector, my 
collector's edition. 

773
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,840
'S the, the, the, the cut off 
Lex? 

774
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,080
The cut off is we can only see 
about this like your shoulders 

775
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:14,080
and that discards OK. 
So if you if you want to get 

776
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,280
something that Lex actually 
needs, you know, just throw some

777
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,560
money our way and we'll love it.
Anyways, we have had a number of

778
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,600
things happen since launch and 
these have been a lot of hot 

779
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,080
fixes, a lot of changes that 
they finally got the chance to 

780
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,560
address. 
The biggest one I want to 

781
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,280
address, of course, is the 
levelling changes. 

782
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,680
Now, this has been a little bit 
controversial. 

783
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,200
I have my own take on this, but 
Sean, do you want to explain 

784
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,640
what's going on with this? 
Yeah, so it became very clear 

785
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,680
early on that levelling the the 
scaling was a bit off. 

786
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,800
Characters between level 70 and 
level 75 were like hard 

787
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,480
carrying. 
Not only hard carrying dungeons,

788
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,440
but they were to the point that 
we had a level 70 Devastation of

789
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,280
Ochre who tanked not only the 
boss but also the other two 

790
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,280
packs of mobs we had pulled with
the boss. 

791
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,760
But they were also like one 
shooting mobs as they were 

792
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,040
requesting Through the War 
Within. 

793
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Nobody thinks that's fun. 
Nobody enjoys Warcraft to go in 

794
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,680
and one shot characters as 
they're levelling their way up. 

795
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,840
So Blizzard made some 
adjustments to balance out the 

796
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:32,400
70 to 75 range, which made it 
instead of one shooting mobs, 

797
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,200
now you like two or three shot 
them. 

798
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,560
So it's it's a minor change, but
they also fixed to the top end 

799
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,120
because from 76 to 80 felt 
really bad because you didn't 

800
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,920
you were you became much weaker 
over time. 

801
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,280
So they actually balanced it out
so that you feel stronger now as

802
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,200
you get up in levels. 
And then there's also some item 

803
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,600
level scaling involved as well 
that adjusts the mobs health 

804
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,040
damage based on your item level 
to help make it feel like an 

805
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,640
overall more smooth and a better
experience for everyone. 

806
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:11,680
And the community embraced it. 
Oh, I'm sorry, no, I read that 

807
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,560
wrong. 
The community lost their minds. 

808
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,840
Yeah. 
I, I honestly think that if you 

809
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,960
have an audience, you have a 
responsibility to that audience.

810
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,640
It is. 
I'm looking at you, Sean. 

811
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,960
I'm looking at you, Lex. 
I feel like we were just very 

812
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,440
fair to the audience. 
I I think that I think that we 

813
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,880
were, we were fair though 
because we took the time to 

814
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,240
explain it. 
I think that if you put a 

815
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,680
headline out there and a lot of 
people just check out headlines 

816
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,640
and they don't fully read 
through the article and part of 

817
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,000
that's on them, but like maybe 
make your headline less 

818
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,640
inflammatory. 
I had so many conversations 

819
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,760
where there where is like 
Blizzard hates fun. 

820
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:10,920
They're they're nerfing all the 
characters and everybody who was

821
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,240
in it was saying like I don't 
want to do dungeons, Like I want

822
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:16,720
to go in there and do a dungeon,
but like I don't have any time. 

823
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:20,240
I just have to keep racing after
whoever because it didn't even 

824
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,400
need to be the tank devastation 
of ochre one shot shot and 

825
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,920
stuff. 
And I can't even get off a 

826
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,040
rotation or I can't I can't even
stop to loot. 

827
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Like it just feels like I am 
constantly doing this rush thing

828
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,920
and what was the point of me 
doing early access if I had to 

829
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,280
rush? 
You guys were saying I got to 

830
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,720
explore all the stories, I got 
to do these fun delves. 

831
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,960
This is the opposite of that. 
This is Blizzard had to turn off

832
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,920
experience freezing at level 70,
so trying head off the worst of 

833
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:52,960
it. 
So we are. 

834
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,400
So anybody who was paying 
attention knew something was 

835
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:02,160
coming and I did a couple of a 
couple of normal dungeons 

836
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:04,960
because I was like, oh you know,
I hit 80 and then I was like you

837
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,120
know what, I'll come back to 
this character because it was 

838
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,880
literally I could not get like 3
moves in before it was like race

839
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,400
and do something else. 
Or people would be taking every 

840
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,720
bit of trash to the first boss. 
As soon as the first boss was 

841
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,720
dead, whether there were some 
stragglers or not, they'd be 

842
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:28,760
racing to the next one. 
And remember guys, stops don't 

843
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,520
interrupt anymore. 
You need particular interrupts 

844
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,120
and if and if that that doesn't 
happen, you've got a bunch of 

845
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,040
casters or something like right?
And the only reason that that's 

846
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,000
not an issue is because they do 
zero damage to the level 70. 

847
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,040
But guess what? 
I might have been 80 trying to 

848
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,920
get a little bit of gear and so 
those casters can kill me. 

849
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,920
And it was just wholly unfun, in
my opinion. 

850
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,480
And something needed to be done 
about it. 

851
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,080
And I did have friends that were
like, hey, yeah, I'll go grab my

852
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,480
paladin and I'll, I'll carry it 
through and you can get a bunch 

853
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,120
of levels. 
Guess why my warlock got to 76? 

854
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,280
Because I had some friends that 
were like, let's do this. 

855
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,760
And I was like, OK, I'm going to
do this because I want to know 

856
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,400
how this is working. 
Warlocks need time to, to like 

857
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:26,960
get the rotation going. 
Guys, it's it's not a it's, it 

858
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,000
felt like the worst case of 
those paid services where it's 

859
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,240
like, let's boost you and you 
just sit in the corner and I'll 

860
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,480
get you the experience. 
That's what it felt like. 

861
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,000
It I think it was either the 
last episode or a couple 

862
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,560
episodes ago that I said I tried
to play time running at the very

863
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,440
end of time running and I 
realized midway through that I 

864
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,560
was just not having a good night
because I was so bored. 

865
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,120
It was the same vibe for me 
going going into dungeons. 

866
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:55,080
The rest of the War within was 
crazy fun. 

867
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:58,520
I had like, I've been loving it 
every single second of it's 

868
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,360
incredible It yeah, I don't play
World of Warcraft to jog after 

869
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,360
somebody. 
And so I was also just like not 

870
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,720
doing dungeons because I simply 
did not want to deal with it. 

871
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,080
So yeah, I agree that the way it
was sold didn't feel good. 

872
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,840
I think my vibe from listening 
to some other people was that it

873
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,920
also felt particularly bad 
because it's happened 

874
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,880
immediately after Early Access 
ended. 

875
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,760
So the people who are already 
feeling kind of raw that they 

876
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,080
didn't get to play early Access 
with their friends also like, 

877
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,200
wait, are you serious? 
Like I also now have to do it 

878
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,560
harder at the end of early 
access, which again, I think it 

879
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,600
needed to happen. 
It, it was too easy, it was 

880
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,880
boring. 
The the game demands some degree

881
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,160
of challenge. 
And it's not actually like it's 

882
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,960
not. 
If Blizzard had never said 

883
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,280
anything and never told anybody,
and you weren't able to data 

884
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,520
mine the number of differences, 
I don't think anybody would 

885
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,520
have. 
I don't think anyone would have 

886
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,360
noticed. 
Oh, yeah, Because it doesn't 

887
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,800
even feel that much different. 
It feels pretty much the same, 

888
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,840
except you're stronger in the 
back half of the leveling, which

889
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,560
you should be. 
Yeah, it's pretty much, yeah. 

890
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,360
I don't know. 
I would say, like you said, it 

891
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,800
had to happen, but it's. 
It was definitely not. 

892
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,040
The sky is falling. 
Blizzard hates fun. 

893
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,080
Look at them pulling the rug out
from underneath these people you

894
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,520
had to pay to get your four days
of free level and that none of 

895
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,960
that. 
It's all still really easy to 

896
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:29,800
level from 70 to 80 so. 
Yeah, and so they let us know 

897
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,160
ahead of time. 
They did some further 

898
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,440
clarifications afterwards 
because the narrative just went 

899
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,160
wild on it. 
And they put out a Twitter post.

900
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,600
I've linked both of those in in 
the show notes. 

901
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,760
I have been in many different 
discords and, and such and, and 

902
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,160
some people who are really 
disliking it. 

903
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,760
I think that the worst take I 
have heard and I, I want to take

904
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,880
the time while I have your 
attention guys to say this is 

905
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,040
the people who the people who 
are saying this never should 

906
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,360
have happened and why would 
Blizzard let let this this 

907
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,240
through? 
That is a very defeatist 

908
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,840
attitude in that I guess at this
point you're hoping Blizzard 

909
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:19,000
creates a time machine. 
I don't have that bronze dragon 

910
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:19,640
flight. 
I don't know. 

911
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,800
They don't have to make a 
machine. 

912
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,880
For it, this is this is true. 
And I don't think there's any 

913
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,480
way to make this right because 
unless you were going to flag 

914
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,040
every account that is that had 
early accents, say you can't 

915
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,240
play with the people that didn't
have early access for these 

916
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,040
three days while they have the 
power gap to make the 

917
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,360
difference. 
Like I don't think there's a way

918
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,960
forward without just nipping 
this in the bud unless you want 

919
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,080
to like give them. 
Like I, I just, I don't, I don't

920
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,520
think there's a fairway to do 
this. 

921
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Well, there is. 
They did it. 

922
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,440
This is the fairway. 
Levelling feels better for 

923
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,960
everyone. 
Dungeons feel better for 

924
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,280
everyone. 
They saw an issue that the 

925
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,560
player base asked them to fix 
and they fixed it. 

926
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,600
And then we complained that they
fixed it. 

927
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,840
It's like someday, Wow, 
Twitter's gonna not cut off its 

928
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,760
own nose to spite its face, that
is not that day. 

929
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,600
OK, I do want to say that it's 
clearly different segments of 

930
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,400
the Wow Twitter space or the 
different, different things that

931
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,720
are some people like, yeah, I 
just needed to be fixed. 

932
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,200
And some people are like, oh, 
no, this abuse that I clearly 

933
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:34,000
was enjoying, it's gone. 
But like, yeah, it gets tiresome

934
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,480
sometimes. 
Other changes that they've made 

935
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,080
that I thought were good 
adjustments, turning off tear 

936
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,840
sets from Dragonflight, the fact
that tear sets were still worth 

937
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:50,880
10 to 15% of damage at level 80 
and in some cases it was better 

938
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,800
to just keep your four set 
despite the fact that you were 

939
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,480
like hundreds of item levels 
down to be more effective was 

940
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,560
incredibly poor and I'm glad 
they shut that shut that down 

941
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,680
that seems to have gone over 
better. 

942
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,600
Have you seen anybody 
complaining about that? 

943
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:10,920
Well, that's. 
Usually automatic, right? 

944
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,560
I'm kind of hearing you say 
this. 

945
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,280
I, I just gave away my four 
piece because it's like, oh, to 

946
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,640
yourself, go away. 
It's not going to work. 

947
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:19,160
Clearly, we're on the new 
expansion. 

948
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,000
I'm pretty sure The Sims have 
all been busted since War Within

949
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,280
started. 
So there's a lot of people who 

950
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,320
were saying my SIM says this is 
better and those numbers are 

951
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,240
just wrong. 
Yeah, there's I don't think 

952
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:36,560
there's any world where 40 item 
levels on a piece of gear are 

953
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,640
going to away a proc or Cdr on 
an item, but. 

954
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,480
It's just it's percentage, 
percentage of damage that you're

955
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,400
you're doing. 
Like if you're if your proc is 

956
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,200
every time you do this move, 
this move gets gets faster like 

957
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,640
the damage versus how frequently
it's happening actually does 

958
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,720
make a difference. 
OK, Yeah. 

959
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,680
They turn it off, it's good, 
nobody wants it. 

960
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:07,080
Nobody should be still wearing 
Dragonflight 4 pieces at that 

961
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,320
level. 
And to your question, Lex, in 

962
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,640
many instances it becomes legacy
loop because of changes that 

963
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,760
they make to the classes. 
So going to Dragonflight, we got

964
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,720
the new the new talent system. 
And so a lot of the tier that 

965
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:28,480
came from shadow lands was 
immediately made legacy and 

966
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,360
didn't work right. 
But going back to the last time 

967
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,800
we had tier, let's say Legion 
going into BFA, there were 

968
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,640
particular specs, not every spec
like it seems very much 

969
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,000
overloaded this time, but 
something like Frost Mage had 

970
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,200
their tier set bonus that 
actually was something that they

971
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,600
wanted to carry into old Deer. 
So it has had. 

972
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,080
It has happened before. 
Wild. 

973
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,040
The what was that, Sean? 
No, not that we're good. 

974
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:00,480
I thought I banned the wrong 
person. 

975
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:06,280
Oh, OK. 
The other thing is that they put

976
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,120
out a timeline of things coming 
out, so we won't get Urban 

977
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,040
unlocked until September 3rd. 
I mean, there was a little bit 

978
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,760
of complaining because we were 
like, oh, you said it'd be 

979
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,920
available on launch and it's a 
little bit after launch. 

980
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,760
Small, small potatoes. 
But we got a lot of stuff that 

981
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,960
came in with the launch, like 
heroic dungeons, which are 

982
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,680
somewhat better than normal 
dungeons. 

983
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,080
I know my normal dungeon 
experience as I described it was

984
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,760
a little a little off, But in 
general, normal dungeons seem 

985
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:43,560
quite undertuned this expansion.
Heroic dungeons also feel a 

986
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,600
little undertuned, but at least 
I get to see like three of the 

987
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,200
moves before the enemy falls 
over. 

988
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:54,360
So that's great. 
We got the professional sparks 

989
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,280
and that invigorated the auction
house and hey, you don't know, I

990
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,240
mean, looking at the auction 
house, that was fun and it just 

991
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:06,240
it feels like this second coming
of the war within now with with 

992
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,040
the official launch, like it 
actually feels like a second 

993
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,920
launch. 
Yeah, that feels good. 

994
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,720
Heroics ice. 
So right now heroics drop a 

995
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,640
lower item level than they will 
when season one starts. 

996
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,760
I have to believe that a 
difficulty boost comes with them

997
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,120
because when you say they don't 
feel much difficult or much more

998
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,000
difficult than normals. 
We were running them one tank 

999
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,680
for DPS, we weren't even using 
healers. 

1000
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,920
And on launch night when we were
in the middle of a stone vault, 

1001
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:45,480
two of our players DC Ed before 
the third boss and we finished 

1002
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:51,280
the dungeon, me and two DPS. 
And when I say it didn't slow 

1003
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,240
down how I pull, I'm not 
exaggerating. 

1004
00:58:54,240 --> 00:59:00,080
I still was pulling everything 
to a boss with just three of us 

1005
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,600
and no healer. 
So and that was the first night 

1006
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,120
of heroin. 
So it's not like we were like 

1007
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,600
super over gearing it. 
There's no way that difficult. 

1008
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,400
They're they they're supposed to
be the same difficulty level of 

1009
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,240
a mythic 0 at the start of 
Dragonflight. 

1010
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,280
There is a zero chance that they
are right now. 

1011
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,520
So in two weeks when season one 
opens and a blue post comes out 

1012
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,720
that says they're increasing the
difficulty of heroics, please, I

1013
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,600
beg you, don't freak out because
it's going to happen because 

1014
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,720
they're gonna bump up the item 
level that those drop. 

1015
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,120
They have to make them more 
difficult. 

1016
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,840
So please, please, I'm begging 
community, when that happens, 

1017
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,600
when that tweet comes out, don't
lose it. 

1018
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:45,760
I really need to start up an 
Etsy store for torches and 

1019
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,800
pitchforks. 
I could be making bank off the 

1020
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,720
Wow community but like I I 
agree. 

1021
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,120
I was in a in a similar 
situation. 

1022
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,480
We were doing literally the 
stone vault and part way through

1023
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,840
disconnects happened and the 
team went running through. 

1024
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,960
That's where our stories differ,
though. 

1025
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,480
I happen to be on the wrong side
of the disconnect, so I can't 

1026
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,280
tell you if they slowed down 
pulling. 

1027
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,360
All I know is that my launch 
night was ruined for for a bit. 

1028
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,120
But they seem to have gone 
through the dungeon. 

1029
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,240
I got stuff in the mail that 
said, hey, thanks for 

1030
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,520
participating. 
Yeah. 

1031
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,560
And yeah, I think they got, I 
think they got to, they got to 

1032
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,360
like, push up the difficulty on 
that. 

1033
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:29,280
Yeah. 
I will. 

1034
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,920
Say anything? 
Go ahead and being a little bit 

1035
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,960
of a doomer here, I do sort of 
between how heroic dungeons are 

1036
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,160
being run now and also the item 
level shift. 

1037
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:46,760
I think that the team kind of 
like soft scrapped the idea that

1038
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,640
heroic dungeons are meaningful 
and doesn't want to tell us 

1039
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,960
that, but I think they don't. 
I don't, I think the squish 

1040
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,920
didn't actually, I mean, I think
the squish like happened. 

1041
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,240
I I just don't see it in any of 
their actions. 

1042
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,320
It doesn't feel like heroic is 
going to be meaningful long 

1043
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,240
term. 
You know, like like we were. 

1044
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,200
I was saying this on the last 
one of the other episodes, but 

1045
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,000
like Heroic gives the same item 
level as LFR. 

1046
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,360
That's not meaningful loot. 
Anyway, that's my tinfoil hat. 

1047
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:18,320
That's my rumor of the day. 
I I can't, Yeah, I can't, like 

1048
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,400
readily dispel that. 
Like with things as they are. 

1049
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,000
You could be right, Lex. 
OK. 

1050
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,840
All right. 
So I got to throw this question 

1051
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,880
to each of you. 
We'll start with you, Lex. 

1052
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,440
Do you have any goals for this 
expansion that looking forward 

1053
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,280
in the weeks to come? 
Do you have any goals for 

1054
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,880
yourself? 
I want to have fun leveling. 

1055
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,880
Oh, sorry, not leveling gearing.
I think that gearing is 

1056
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,920
something that usually hits my 
brain as a like all right time 

1057
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,160
to make the numbers get bigger. 
This is going to suck. 

1058
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,640
And I think that's one of the 
reasons why mythic plus tends to

1059
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,720
stress me out also because I 
freak out that everyone hates me

1060
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,800
and I'm running everyone's 
tonight. 

1061
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,520
So I want to get rid of both of 
those ideas. 

1062
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,920
I want to focus on gearing off 
and getting ready and getting my

1063
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,320
numbers good and high and 
powerful without feeling overly 

1064
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,120
panicked. 
And I also want to do dungeons 

1065
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,840
on a regular basis with joy and 
love, and not because I feel 

1066
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,760
like I have to, but because I 
get a new and then everyone died

1067
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,760
here I mean. 
I hope having. 

1068
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:27,640
So much fun. 
You have found your calling, I 

1069
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,040
think with that Demon Hunter. 
I'm I'm glad for that. 

1070
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,280
OK, And Sean, what about you 
now? 

1071
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,360
I like. 
I think this question probably 

1072
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,200
has a different answer for you 
than before. 

1073
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:43,000
You found your 1 character per 
region calling what? 

1074
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,520
What other goals do you have for
this expansion? 

1075
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:52,560
It's to be accepted as a storm 
rider and to find a Storm Rook 

1076
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,280
that chooses me as its partner 
just as much as I choose it, 

1077
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,120
without having to force it with 
bindings like the the old ways. 

1078
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,800
Sean. 
I will find you a storm rider 

1079
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:08,360
also, I'm not even kidding. 
Also I would like to convince my

1080
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,440
two Co hosts on the For Azeroth 
podcast that we should set up a 

1081
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,240
regular for Azure authentic plus
night so that Lex can do some of

1082
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,720
those dungeons with people that 
she knows she's not ruining 

1083
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,160
their night because they adore 
her. 

1084
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,840
OK, we can get you to tank, 
right? 

1085
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,960
Lex, you're now at DPS. 
So then we just need to find 

1086
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,920
like a healer and some DPS and 
we're good to go. 

1087
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:39,080
All right then. 
Do you guys have any tips for 

1088
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,680
our viewers? 
Just tips for the early 

1089
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,480
expansion it goes. 
Slow down the story of the War 

1090
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:54,320
Within, in my unbiased opinion 
is the best that it has been for

1091
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,920
main campaign and side quests 
which are now called local 

1092
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,080
stories. 
I embrace it. 

1093
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,320
It is the best that it has been 
since Wrath of the Lich King, 

1094
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:08,840
which was the end cap of 
everything from Warcraft one up 

1095
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,640
until, you know, that point in 
World of Warcraft the the quest 

1096
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:18,440
team absolutely blew everything 
they've done in the past out of 

1097
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,480
the water. 
So don't. 

1098
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,760
If you're somebody who normally 
would wait three months in 

1099
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,280
before going and getting through
all the quests, don't do them 

1100
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,000
now. 
OK. 

1101
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,920
And Lex, do you have any tips or
pointers that you would want to 

1102
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,520
put out to the For Azeroth 
community as a whole? 

1103
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,560
Yeah, kind of on the same vein 
as Sean, one thing that they've 

1104
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,360
done a lot in War Within is give
us opportunities to customize 

1105
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,600
their own experience. 
And so play around with it and 

1106
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:49,880
figure out what you actually 
like. 

1107
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,880
I genuinely like I had been 
joking about how exciting I 

1108
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,160
excited I was about Delves. 
Like I didn't expect to love 

1109
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:57,600
them this much. 
I thought, especially after 

1110
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,000
doing them on the beta, I 
thought this is kind of not 

1111
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,760
actually anything that I wanted.
And it's you know, I'll get 

1112
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,880
through it, but it's not going 
to be like, I am absolutely in 

1113
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,080
love. 
I have so much fun. 

1114
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,240
Every time I see Adele, I'm 
like, oh, I can pop right in and

1115
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,840
I have a good time. 
And it's not everybody that's 

1116
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,000
apparently not my two Co hosts, 
which makes me think it's 

1117
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,560
probably not most of the World 
of Warcraft community, which is 

1118
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,760
OK, which is OK because you get 
to customize your experience. 

1119
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,240
And so if you're playing this 
and you're like, wow, I'm really

1120
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,480
not having fun playing this way,
there's probably another way you

1121
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,040
can play and there's probably 
other options. 

1122
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,680
And the team, the Blizzard team 
is working really hard to give 

1123
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,120
us those options to play how we 
want. 

1124
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,640
So explore, have a good time. 
Do you have any tips, Mindy? 

1125
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,640
So I hope those tips do you. 
Have any tips? 

1126
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:50,400
Oh, honestly, I would say that 
explore things, take the time, 

1127
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,440
explore things. 
That's kind of a long lines what

1128
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,240
you're saying, but like things 
that you may not have thought 

1129
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,800
like, oh, I'm like, I should try
this. 

1130
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,320
Now is the time. 
It is a new expansion. 

1131
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,360
Everybody's starting fresh. 
If you want to try PvP, nobody's

1132
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,000
got a huge gear advantage over 
you. 

1133
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,840
If you want to go and do the 
dungeons, there's only a handful

1134
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,360
of people that have like done 
these things to death on the 

1135
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,040
beta that know the level of 
experience that becomes sort of 

1136
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,040
required later on. 
Right now is the now is the time

1137
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,120
to try and make up that that 
experience gap, that knowledge 

1138
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,360
gap, because they've got the 
videos out there. 

1139
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,880
This is the time to do that. 
If you are somebody who loves 

1140
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,120
the story, there is no better 
time than to go through through 

1141
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,360
this. 
So check it out, enjoy whatever 

1142
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,520
you wanted to dabble in, find 
your find your passion, because 

1143
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,360
I have not seen this many 
guildies just logging in or I 

1144
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,480
run into them in front of it. 
I'm just like, hey, salute. 

1145
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,800
And then they're like, oh, hey, 
Manny. 

1146
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,480
That's sort of the thing. 
It's it is a great time to just 

1147
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,800
be in this game enjoying it with
your friends. 

1148
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,720
But until next time guys, may 
all your hits be good.