1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,360 Guaranteed people will start calling me a Blizzard apologist 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,800 when I have these takes, but if you go into a conversation and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,040 you don't believe a word coming out of their mouth, you're no 4 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:17,280 longer having a conversation. Victory for the Forsaken. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,760 For Lauderon. For the Karen tour. 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,040 For Pandaria. For calendar to the. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Burning region for Gilneus. I have not died for the Lich 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,760 King for the. Sindora for the alliance. 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:47,120 For the Horde, for Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,080 another episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, the true 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,840 villain, Manny, or just simply Manny. 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,560 And of course, we are joined by the lovely Rhea. 13 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Rhea, how are you and how has Lex been treating you this week? 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,480 She she doesn't have anything to say to you, Manny, OK. 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,320 She had a lot to type, but all. Right. 16 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:09,040 She has a lot to type, but she has nothing to say. 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,640 No, she she's feeling like chewing on my desk. 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,320 Does that help? OK, well then we'll we'll swap 19 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:18,240 over to you. Lex. 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Lex, how are you and how's the World of Warcraft been treating 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,240 you? I am good. 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,640 I've gotten to play some alpha. We did not get IOTC last week, 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,440 but we are very hopeful. We were consistently getting 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,320 into phase three. It was kind of the type of thing 25 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:31,920 where like frankly, I, I think we probably would have had it 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,280 with a couple more polls, but we tried very hard not to be the 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,320 like just because we have a bunch of parents and stuff. 28 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,800 We try not to be like, oh, we can do it in a couple more polls 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,200 cuz we want to stay up a little bit later. 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,840 So my guess is knock on a lot of wood that we haven't this week. 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,960 OK. I mean, well, this week there's 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,520 an extra 3% power for those who are pushing the Rep. 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,960 That means 12% overall. So that should definitely help. 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Actually, if you guys are locking out, are you getting the 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,200 different, what are they called, ranks? 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,000 So that is part of the issue we are thinking about right now is 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,040 that we are, we are probably gonna still hold for Mondays for 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,080 a while. We've been doing Mythic. 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,000 We did Mythic plus last week. This week we did, we did heroic 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 to because we wanted to get our cartel trips. 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,080 But we have been encouraging the team to do LFR and that might 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,880 become a consideration if I think as of now, it seems like 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,880 most people are doing LFR on their off time to get up to 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,760 those ranks and at least kind of keep up. 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,240 But then that is part of the issue, right is that most of our 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,480 team, not maybe not most, but a lot of our significant portion 47 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,080 of our team really do have a limited amount of World of 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Warcraft time and are primarily playing on raid night. 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,600 And so when we do lockout, we do have to think about that a 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,200 little bit of like who we are potentially saying that, you 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,560 know, subsection of our team is only going to do dementias for 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,880 the next however many weeks. So I guess that is a quandary. 53 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Are you guys like going to police that at some point or is 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,400 it just like a suggestion? Guys like this will definitely 55 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,680 give us the the power we need and then let people go by carrot 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,400 rather than whip. We have historically policed it 57 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,520 and this is what I was talking about a little bit last week 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:27,400 with if it feel if we're hitting a boss and it feels like I 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,680 fundamentally do not understand how we are possibly supposed to 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,880 get out through this because it's so painful and so 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,000 overwhelming. That's when we start thinking 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,360 it's a gear issue. It's a like a, you know, just a 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,720 raw number issue and we need to start talking about whether or 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 not we need to sit people to move forward right now because 65 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,160 we're consistently getting into phase three. 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 And it really feels feels like the issue is we've also been 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,240 having just an absurd number of bugs. 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Like almost every time we do the flying section of Devencius. 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,240 We've had one person get hard bugged out, which means we have 70 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,600 to res them because they die, which means that we waste a 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,960 battle of rez, which means that when we get into phase 3, when 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,040 you really need to be able to pump that DPS, we are one battle 73 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,440 of rez down. And somebody might have run 74 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,800 through some somebody, I don't know, some Demon Hunter idiot 75 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,880 probably ran through one of those stars that's dead without 76 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,680 remembering that you're not supposed to do that. 77 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Who does that? Who fell rushes through those? 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,440 We are just like if we we don't have that ability to push up the 79 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,880 DPS. So because it doesn't feel like 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,600 we're hitting a hard wall so much as we just really need to 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,200 like clean things up and perfect them. 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,320 We try not to sit people when it's dance versus numbers. 83 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,760 All right, well, I I'm sorry to kept you waiting. 84 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Sean. I I know that you, unlike me, 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,280 wait till you're introduced before saying anything. 86 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:42,160 But hello Sean, How are you and how's the World of Warcraft 87 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,440 treating you? Hi Manny, I'm doing great. 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Warcraft has been awesome on retail. 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,280 I am shifted into full maintenance mode which basically 90 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:54,920 means I'll be raid logging for the foreseeable future. 91 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,880 As we are now into our this, this Thursday will be our first 92 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,600 night of official farm. So assuming everything goes 93 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,760 smoothly I I have no reason to believe it won't. 94 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,960 It'll be just, I'll most likely just be raid logging on retail 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,720 other than my remix dailies. I have hit Max item level on 96 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 remix and I am now starting the power climb. 97 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,880 I've also purchased all of the transmog, all of the mounts 98 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,920 except for two, and most of the toys. 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,120 And so I've been enjoying that. And so my so I'm actually now in 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,320 like I've completed all the quests as well. 101 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,000 So I'm now also in maintenance mode for remix so I'm literally 102 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,720 just read. But remix raid logging means I 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,640 still have to log in every day because it's every day. 104 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:45,800 And I've mostly shifted in my focus into the alpha and testing 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,240 add-ons. Trying to find add-ons to test. 106 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,800 If you are an add on developer and you have an add on that you 107 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,480 want tested on the alpha that you've been working on or one 108 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,560 that you wrote for retail you want to see if it works on the 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,440 alpha, shoot me a message. Jump into the discord at bit dot 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,600 LY slash faz discord. Let me know I will test your 111 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,000 add-ons. I've been spending my days on 112 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,920 hunts for things that will allow me to reskin the cooldown 113 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:15,200 manager mask works, but it doesn't fix the main major 114 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,640 issues I have, which is you can't reduce the spacing to 0 115 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,120 and you can't center center justify the icons they left or 116 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,560 right justify. So if you have one with five and 117 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,160 one with four, it looks awful. I don't. 118 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,720 Yeah, it's. These are the major issues 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,720 plaguing add-ons right now. Yeah, I mean, we're going to 120 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,640 talk about the rest of the stuff later, but that's those are the 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,120 things, the visual things I want to I want to look pretty right. 122 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,480 You look good, you play good. So that's that's basically, but 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,720 no, Warcrafts are treating me good. 124 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,200 I've been feeling good about it and I'm I'm I wanted to say I'm 125 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,560 ready for midnight, but we have a lot of work to do, so I'm not. 126 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,720 What I am ready for is phase six of alpha, which was not on the 127 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,080 road map but which was was announced to the add on 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,760 developer Discord. I see, I see Well, I mean, I 129 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,640 guess we should get right into it. 130 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,360 Let's talk about these add-ons because Blizzard took the Time, 131 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Team two took the time to address add-ons and what 132 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Midnight is going to do to the combat add-ons. 133 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,640 Now with this, they spoke about what their initial logic was for 134 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,480 their API, how that was the most restrictive version. 135 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,080 And then that the team had an expectation that the community, 136 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,920 the the add on developers would come back with feedback and 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,560 guide them to where they needed to loosen their restrictions. 138 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Which I'm going to say is the way you would do it in a 139 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,080 professional environment where you start at a baseline and then 140 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,800 you open up things because you are worried about security risk. 141 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,240 However, I feel like in game development, in a development 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,920 with a community like the World of Warcraft, this seems like 143 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,040 something that needs to be explicitly communicated ahead of 144 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,640 time so that they do not get the reaction that they got that they 145 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:19,000 so that they do not. They do not 'cause the 146 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,200 conversation to be so soured so fast. 147 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,040 So I feel like Blizzard dropped the ball flat out in 148 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,280 communication. This article that we're 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,120 referring to in my mind is 3 to 4 weeks late. 150 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,520 It should have been ahead of time and saying like, hey, 151 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,559 you're going to be getting the the alpha. 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,520 What you will find is this what we are looking for? 153 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Is this right? And going from there. 154 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,640 But that said, Blizzard has been providing detailed technical 155 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,680 updates to add on developers. We saw with weak ORS there was 156 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,520 two weeks of videos of like this is what it is and This is why we 157 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,440 can't do it. And then another one being like, 158 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,800 they've made these changes but like this isn't good enough. 159 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,120 And then afterwards we saw a different developers even 160 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:13,200 showing like the notes that the layman probably has no 161 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,440 understanding of, right, that Blizzard is putting forward to 162 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,760 them. That shows not only what is 163 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,120 coming up, what will be coming soon, and what's intended for 164 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,680 the future as well. So there seems to be some 165 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:28,120 communication. I just don't know how back and 166 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,760 forth it is because obviously I'm not part of that 167 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,520 communication. Not to be an eternal hater who 168 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,280 can always pull the bat out of anything. 169 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,360 That's good. There was a little bit of me 170 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,920 when I read that post that was like, oh, you're doing the thing 171 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,920 that like you're defender. Like I, I don't know, it felt 172 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,200 like a lot of people were saying like, no, guys, maybe they're 173 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,800 just going to like make it super tight now and then, like loosen 174 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,480 it up later. And Blizzard's like, yeah, we're 175 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,960 we're just like it. It was going to. 176 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,720 We were always intending to do this, you guys. 177 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,200 It wasn't like, it's not like we didn't understand what was going 178 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,840 on and suddenly are startled by it. 179 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Because I agree, like it just it's so obvious to me that if 180 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,360 this is what you were gonna do, the first thing you do is you 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,360 write to the add on authors and be like, hey, guys, we're gonna 182 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,560 start really tense, like really intense. 183 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,200 We are gonna loosen restrictions. 184 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,240 So don't, for example, make a major post the day after we tell 185 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,720 people that a weak auras are gonna stay around saying the 186 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,480 weak auras are gone. It's gonna be OK. 187 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,360 We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna keep communicating. 188 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:26,520 So it's either that they communicated so poorly that they 189 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,360 missed a very obvious thing they needed to do if they were gonna 190 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,120 start with the most stringent restrictions and loosen them, or 191 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,800 this was what they wanted to do, like they they wanted really 192 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,840 stringent restrictions. Everyone started freaking out 193 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,000 and they are currently trying to backtrack to save face. 194 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,600 And I don't know which one I'm more stressed about, but I don't 195 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,840 really see a world where this was well done. 196 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,120 I have a lot of feelings. I have a lot of feelings about 197 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,840 this post and I'm trying to temper myself. 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,240 This is a 15 paragraph post that they made and it isn't until the 199 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,600 12th paragraph that we get any new information. 200 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,320 All of all of what you just said, both of you the that 201 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,440 Blizzard coming out. You know, obviously this 202 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,880 communication should have happened weeks ago, but it did 203 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,160 this if you go back and watch the first video that they did 204 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,680 with Max and Ratnos where Ian breaks the news that we're going 205 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:17,400 to be losing add-ons and then says don't worry, we're going to 206 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,720 launch them simultaneously and ignore that part. 207 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,520 But if you go back to that video where he announces what they're 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,960 doing, he says in that video, their intention is to make it so 209 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,080 that people can still reskin their offerings so that add-ons 210 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,320 don't lose functionality for accessibility to the people. 211 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,680 Like literally everything that the 1st 11 paragraphs of this 212 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:39,200 post that came out is almost word for word what he says in 213 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,120 that video from four months ago. So they're not telling us 214 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,560 anything that we didn't already know and that they haven't 215 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,400 already said and they've actually done nothing. 216 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,080 We, I've said multiple times on the show, like it would be 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,240 really great if we, if they would give us specifics. 218 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,120 They keep saying, oh, combat related things, combat related 219 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,480 stuff. But what does that mean? 220 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,280 Does that mean I can't track my own, my own abilities? 221 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,440 Does that mean that I can't change the name plate color of a 222 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,000 different mob? Because right now I can't. 223 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,880 Those those are locked out. You cannot do it. 224 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,440 Anyway, this post is four months too late. 225 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,280 It tells us nothing that they haven't already told us until we 226 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,520 get to the portion about raid frames, which is a shining 227 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,840 nugget in this post. Their their post they're, 228 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,880 they're mentioning of raid frames. 229 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,880 We're happy to talk about, but everything up to that point, 230 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,160 there's like there's no, it's, it's literally just the same 231 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,960 buzzwords. We're locking out combat 232 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,320 abilities, add on abilities to make combat calculations for 233 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,000 you. We expect that add-ons will be 234 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,960 able to rescan stuff in the way that they want, which they've 235 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,840 been saying since day one, which we're still not seeing come to 236 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,960 full fruition yet. And it's still just, I just want 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,240 somebody at Blizzard to tell us what functionality that we have 238 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,560 now. Do you not want us to have so we 239 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:00,880 can stop wasting our so we can stop I almost said the F word so 240 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,440 we can stop wasting our energy on it because I'm tired of 241 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,560 asking for the ability to change the colour of a nameplate based 242 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,760 on the mob type. If you're never planning to give 243 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,400 it to us, just tell us you're not going to give it to us and I 244 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,040 can move on. But if I if we don't know and we 245 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,320 don't because all this says is we don't want you to be able to 246 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,640 have combat calculation functionality, but we do want 247 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,440 you to be able to customize the look. 248 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,200 Give us a specific please. I beg you. 249 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Somebody tell us something of substance, OK? 250 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,640 The raid frames look great. I can't wait till we talk about 251 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,720 those. OK. 252 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,560 I will say from what they have put out that something like 253 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,200 being able to have lieutenants or casters categorically 254 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,840 distinguished on nameplates, whether that be that, that all 255 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,720 casters have a different color, whether that be lieutenants have 256 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,400 additional markings to show that they are lieutenants. 257 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,520 That seems like something from what they have said that would 258 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,480 not be allowed with the with their goals, because that that 259 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,240 would be looking into unit IDs, interpreting something that is 260 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,120 considered a secret value. And so from what I've read on 261 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,880 this, and I only have like barest technical knowledge, I 262 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,320 don't think that's that's something that is intended to 263 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,800 happen. Now, obviously they've gone back 264 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,960 on some things that that previously didn't look like they 265 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,520 were going to happen, right. So again, we're back to that 266 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,840 guessing game that you hate you hate so much. 267 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,240 That said, what they have put forward after multiple 268 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,080 paragraphs is some new information about the things 269 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,240 before we get to rate frames. I do believe that one thing that 270 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,920 they should have said previously that they added into it was the 271 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,920 focus on accessibility. This is something that wasn't 272 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,800 really in the conversation many months ago. 273 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,360 I believe that that was in April that came into here. 274 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,400 There was a focus on text to speech so that you wouldn't be 275 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:11,160 relying on visual cues to track all the addons, or rather all 276 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,200 the cooldowns. Those cooldowns, of course, are 277 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,760 much less because of the pruning, though. 278 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,120 You've seen them attack that from different directions and 279 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,200 there are a number of ways for you to get alerts on that. 280 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,760 So gaining stacks of of an ability or it coming off of 281 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,880 cooldown or it reaching the pandemic window or a number of 282 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,200 different things. You can get either through text 283 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,320 to speech or through various alerts. 284 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Going through those alerts on the alpha, they are pretty 285 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:48,080 limited in terms of like what sounds you can get their stuff 286 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,840 from Warcraft three, Warcraft 2, which are like games from nearly 287 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,840 20 years ago and therefore didn't have the largest catalog 288 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,720 of sounds. And even still I don't think 289 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,240 that there is all of them. I really want them to open that 290 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,040 up so that so that you can have very distinctive sounds instead 291 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,240 of four different animal noises that I have to recognize which 292 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,200 animal that is. Go ahead, not to be an eternal 293 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,960 hater that can always spin the negative out of a positive, but 294 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,560 I don't think you can call it a focus on accessibility when you 295 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,080 didn't talk to a disabled person until they made a very popular 296 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,480 post on Reddit. Like that's not a focus on 297 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,240 accessibility, that's like, oh shit right, we told everyone we 298 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,200 were focusing on accessibility, we have to do that. 299 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Like I just feel like they're saying everything way too late 300 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,960 for it to matter. So there was a conversation in 301 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,600 the FAZ the like the conversation between the three, 302 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,920 three of us that wasn't public and it was somewhat related to 303 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,440 this in terms of who is in the room and and who is speaking to 304 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,800 to issues, but it wasn't talking about accessibility. 305 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,400 And we call it the Faz universe. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but 306 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,480 I think we should at this point we're, I think we're big enough 307 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,040 that we can call it the Faz verse. 308 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,200 So the conversation was between the three of us, not the broader 309 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,440 FAZ community, the FAZ universe as you're calling it. 310 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:18,839 And there is obviously a, there should be a priority, there 311 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:26,160 should be a, a goal to get knowledgeable, experienced 312 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,800 voices in the room whenever you're dealing with, with 313 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,640 something, right. And there was a conversation 314 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,440 about people who aren't knowledgeable or don't have 315 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:42,200 experience how they should de prioritize their own voices. 316 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,640 Right to the point. Another conversation you're 317 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,480 talking. About, you know the point, 318 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,760 right? Yeah, to the point where it was 319 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:55,720 like if I don't have experience in a category, my opinion is 320 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,000 basically invalid. Now there was a there was a push 321 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,000 back about how invalid or if it is so binary. 322 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,680 But some of this stuff could have been worked on based on 323 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,360 previous work in that space, right? 324 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:18,280 And previous advice that they have been given, right, without 325 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,840 somebody giving them fresh advice in that space. 326 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,000 So I don't want to say just because they didn't have people 327 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,720 from Undaunted, because Undaunted, Undaunted was part of 328 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,560 that thread in the short term that they started working on the 329 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,200 these features does not mean that people with the with 330 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,400 similar experience to those in an Undaunted hadn't given them 331 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,000 stuff to inform them. Now they're pulling in 332 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,880 Undaunted, which is objectively better. 333 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:53,120 And they should have pulled in people with experience in both 334 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:58,480 World of Warcraft and with different capabilities in terms 335 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,720 of vision, in terms of hearing, in terms of just capability, 336 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,200 because that is objectively better to have that confluence 337 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,280 of experiences to inform them when they're doing this. 338 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,080 And so I'm glad that they're doing it now. 339 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,800 But again, we're worried about time limit when they are rushing 340 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,480 towards a release sometime early next year. 341 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,280 That's fair. And I guess to be honest, I 342 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,720 started this entire conversation saying I don't know which one 343 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,960 would be worse if they're like, you know, just really bad at 344 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:33,520 communicating or lying to us. And I think I think one of my 345 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,240 biggest frustrations with the World of Warcraft team right now 346 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,600 is I just feel like chronically gaslit by them. 347 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,400 Like I kind of do wish that one of them like did somebody. 348 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,560 And Ian has said similar things, but he's kind of like masked it 349 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 in professional language. I want a member of Blizzard to 350 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,080 just come out and be like, hey, guys, we really did not realize 351 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,640 how big it was going to be to take on add-ons. 352 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,120 And we're kind of stuck in it right now. 353 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:59,840 But we're really, we understand it's been stressful and we we 354 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,960 didn't know what we were doing early on and we're kind of 355 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,320 scrambling a little bit. And so if it feels like we're a 356 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,080 little overwhelmed right now, it's because we're a little 357 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,480 overwhelmed right now and we're doing our best and we're trying 358 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,120 to play catch up. Or if somebody would come out 359 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,080 and say. That to me, I would be like, OK, 360 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,280 at least we're getting somewhere, right? 361 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,560 At least I actually know that I can trust you when you're speak 362 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,840 versus if you put out a thing where you're like, oh, yeah. 363 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,160 We always knew you guys were going to be really mad about 364 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,600 this and we were just waiting for your feedback, which is why 365 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,440 we didn't tell anyone that we wanted feedback and the things 366 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,480 were going to change. And also, like we always knew 367 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,880 accessibility was going to be a good a big thing and we're 368 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,320 really focused on it, which is why we didn't start bringing 369 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,720 people in until after we got yelled out on Reddit. 370 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Like I just don't believe I believe you anymore. 371 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,880 And any, any of these things could be true, right? 372 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,440 Like it very well could be true that that was their plan all 373 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,600 along to get feedback and they just didn't communicate it well. 374 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,400 It could be super true that they have been having really in depth 375 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,120 conversations about accessibility and they just 376 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,400 become obvious to me. But they've been doing this to 377 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,040 me for so long that at this point when they say something, 378 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,920 I'm like, all right, what's next? 379 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,400 Like I just don't believe them anymore. 380 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,240 They have lost my trust. And I feel like you don't 381 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,560 appreciate snarky Lex as much as I do. 382 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:17,960 I deal with I deal with not snarky Lex, but customer faith 383 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,320 and integrity a lot. There becomes a point where 384 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,560 people just believe you're talking in bad faith and it's 385 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,440 impossible to hold a conversation anymore. 386 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,440 People will guarantee people will start calling me a Blizzard 387 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,000 apologist when I have these takes. 388 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:42,400 But if you go into a conversation and you don't 389 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,200 believe a word coming out of their mouth, you're no longer 390 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,360 having a conversation, right? There is there is no way that 391 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,440 they can convince you unless they are placating you. 392 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,760 And I do not want to be placated, right? 393 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:03,200 I would rather that I scrutinize and criticize everything that 394 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,600 comes out of Blizzard's mouth for the grain of truth that I 395 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,280 want to believe is there. Then to say everything they're 396 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,240 throwing at me is lies. And that's hard. 397 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Sometimes that's really hard when you see frustrating things 398 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,080 coming. I think that if you had your 399 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,200 wish, Lex and somebody came out and said, oh man, this was a lot 400 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,320 more than than we thought it would be, and we're really 401 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,600 struggling right now. You wouldn't get the reaction 402 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,680 that you're hoping for. The it's you would get people 403 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,720 who are also thinking that Blizzard is like eternally 404 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,800 gaslighting, use that as ammunition and go further than 405 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,360 you would blacks, because I believe you're you're a 406 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:50,720 reasonable person, right? And that's not me gaslighting 407 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,040 you. That's just the general truth of 408 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:54,400 it, right. But there are people who are 409 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,200 just bad faith that are going to be like, yeah, Blizzard doesn't. 410 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,520 It has never know what they're talking about. 411 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Now they're finally admitting it. 412 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,760 And I've heard this and this and this and then you. 413 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,800 And then because you have now said, you know what, guys, we 414 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,080 were lying. You, you throw out any chance 415 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,840 of, of, of truth, right? I think that if you after the 416 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,360 fact, you go, you know what? Look, thinking back and there 417 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:18,560 were these conversations and that, and we decided to go, go 418 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,960 like this. And this is where it went 419 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,120 through. There's a time for that, but I 420 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:25,760 don't think it's the time right now. 421 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,600 It's a question of tact at this point, right? 422 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,040 And so like, like you have to be honest. 423 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,320 I have a solution, FAS dev. FAS dev, you can send us Adm if 424 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,640 you're already in the discord at bit dot LY slash fas discord, 425 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,560 you can message any one of us and just say, yo, it's a lot. 426 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,280 That's all I got to say. Just let us know. 427 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Hey. Oh yeah, it's a lot. 428 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,760 Message me personally, I will. I'll 100% start. 429 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,240 Everyone call me a blessed apologist if you're like, kind 430 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,440 of. Nice to me yeah that's right. 431 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,920 All it takes is for FAZ there to send like 1 message that says 432 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,800 it's a lot. And, and really anybody listen 433 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,320 if you're in the if you're part of the FAZ, you if you're a FAZ 434 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,520 head and you want to make Lex happy, just send her a message 435 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,840 from the discord that says it's a lot. 436 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,360 In fact, all listeners who are in the FAZ Discord, I would like 437 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:19,680 all of you to message Lex. Just send her Adm 2 words. 3 438 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840 words. It's a lot if you say if. 439 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,600 It's hyphenated and you say it's a lot. 440 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,520 I think you can squeeze. At it. 441 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,880 That's, that's the goal. OK. 442 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,720 Fazz Fazzies. Fazz heads. 443 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,920 Fazz. Faz folk. 444 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,920 Oh my goodness. Fazzers. 445 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,680 Is about to be bombarded by the. Fazzers send Lex and the amateur 446 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,000 says it's a lot so that Lex knows that you know, and that 447 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,080 maybe one of you is Fazdev, and then we'll really never know the 448 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,400 truth. No marriage proposals don't send 449 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,240 that's weird that don't do that, that's weird. 450 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,400 Just here, keep those public on the YouTube. 451 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,560 That said, go ahead. So yeah, so in in seriousness 452 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,480 that that is a fairpoint. I think my immediate 453 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,960 counterpoint is like, yeah, and whose fault is it that I don't 454 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:02,120 trust Blizzard anymore? Like, it's not mine. 455 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,880 I wasn't the one making shit up. But that's sorry. 456 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,640 I'm I'll stop. You're assuming that they're 457 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,280 making you're, they're making stuff up again. 458 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,320 That's like part of like what's happened. 459 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Like there's this like loss of faith in any, in any of the 460 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,080 communication. And therefore, like the the 461 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,960 conversation is you going like, what are you going to lie to me 462 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,360 about this time? So even if there is something in 463 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:29,240 there that's true, or if it's like, hey, we're going to share 464 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,840 this with you early and then we're going to change your mind, 465 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 then you're going to think, hey, when they change their mind, 466 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,320 they're lying to us. That's fair. 467 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,480 I mean, I, I, I, I can't stop thinking about this time last 468 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,880 expansion when all three of us were like so over the moon with 469 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840 everything Blizzard was doing and getting really, really hype 470 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,120 and talking about how we and, and like scolding and 471 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:52,040 reprimanding people who we felt online were being unfair and not 472 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,920 giving them good faith. And so there's a love. 473 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,920 Like, it's not like Blizzard is not capable of having my faith, 474 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,160 but trust is built slowly and lost quickly. 475 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,360 And, and like, I hear what you say that like maybe I, I am 476 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,360 assuming bad faith and I've been, you know, I mean, I know I 477 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:10,760 am assuming bad faith. Maybe I've been assuming bad 478 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,480 faith for longer than I should have been. 479 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,440 And I've been like suspicious of Blizzard for a while. 480 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,400 You know, that's become part of my, you know, persona. 481 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,040 I suppose on the show is always assuming the Blizzard is 482 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,320 overworking their employees, for example. 483 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,200 But yeah, yeah. And like, I guess ultimately 484 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,200 also who cares what I think, right? 485 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,600 Like, they're going to do what they're going to do. 486 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,880 And I can yell into the void to the best of my ability, but 487 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,840 like, they can do it and they can delete the game. 488 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,440 They can delete the game tomorrow. 489 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,960 And there's nothing I could do about. 490 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,200 It. They would never do that, Lex. 491 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,880 If they were going to delete the game, they would do it alongside 492 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,160 another game to replace it. It would never happen all at 493 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,040 once, like a Band-Aid right off. They wouldn't stop one thing 494 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,040 without having something else already ramped up and to replace 495 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,320 it and some time together. Yeah, they're, and they're gonna 496 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,480 make sure that they talk to the other game developers, like 497 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,680 really carefully because they understand they have a lot of 498 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,840 information that Blizzard, World of Warcraft doesn't have before 499 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000 they delete the game. Exactly Manny. 500 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,200 I also. I also feel like you don't 501 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,760 appreciate snarky Sean enough. No, no, it's, it's a, it's a, 502 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,000 it's a, it's a conspiracy. They have like timed this 503 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,840 perfectly with the release of fellowship. 504 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,480 So that and they've been like putting like putting their own 505 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,160 personal money in. So like when fellowship blows 506 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,480 up, their stocks are going to go like through the roof. 507 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,880 Blizzard employees. They're they're screwing you 508 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,640 over and you're falling for it. All of you. 509 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,160 ANYWAYS, back to a back in serious conversation. 510 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,200 But just for the record, I like Snarky Manny too. 511 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,600 I just like snark. Dude we should start a snark 512 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,680 podcast. We're just mean. 513 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Yeah. So OK, I would like, if you 514 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,760 actually care what Lex says, feel free to message her so that 515 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,360 she doesn't keep saying nobody cares what she likes or what she 516 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,120 thinks about because I'm tired of hearing about it. 517 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:05,320 Maybe you are too. That said, they went through and 518 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,040 they did healing frames, raid frames and the updates on that. 519 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,400 And that is something that showed up right after we 520 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,760 finished the recording in the last episode with a bunch of new 521 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,440 information. Now this is an iteration. 522 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,600 This only shows one version. There are apparently 3 versions 523 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,080 coming out. But it is a step in the right 524 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,960 direction. And hopefully, with additional 525 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,240 feedback, we'll get further iteration on that. 526 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,360 Sean, tell us about this. OK, so they're redoing the raid 527 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,120 frames, just what Manny said. It looks first, offering looks 528 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,480 good. Now what we are looking at, if 529 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,880 you're reading the article, which you can find I assume in 530 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,400 the show description or online Google Wow raid frames or 531 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,200 something. I don't know how Google works 532 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,520 obviously, but the image they showed is a Photoshop. 533 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,720 So this is not in game functioning. 534 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,200 It is a Photoshop. There are a couple of very clear 535 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,120 signs that it is a Photoshop #1 being that all of the characters 536 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:10,640 are named after Brazilian soap stars #2 is that there is a 537 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,880 healer hunter who's marked as a healer, which isn't a 538 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,440 possibility. Which does consume a little bit 539 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,000 back up through like whatever levels of review. 540 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,840 Yeah, that's a hunter. That's a hunter cuz which one 541 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,640 the. Light greens. 542 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Felix yeah, on the right hand. Oh, Yep, Yep, Yep. 543 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,600 Yep, Yep. But it looks great. 544 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760 It's a good first offering. So they've addressed some things 545 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,560 that they're they and they specifically mentioned that 546 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,320 they're pulling from some very popular raid frame add-ons. 547 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,680 I have to assume cell because they're using a cell like 548 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,120 overlay to show how poisons look. 549 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,360 So they have, there's a raid raid frame glow and then like an 550 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,800 opaque overlay and then an icon in the top right corner when 551 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,120 somebody has a dispel on them. In this case it's poison. 552 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,240 We don't see any other types other than poison, but I have to 553 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,320 assume that a curse would be purple, a magic would be blue or 554 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,400 something like that. That's a great change, very 555 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920 positive. They have said they're going to 556 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,040 highlight and make bigger to indicate tank swap mechanics, 557 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:19,560 which is great if I'm forced to use the raid frames to identify 558 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,200 tank swap mechanics. But if I am forced to use the 559 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880 raid frames to identify tank swap mechanics, I'll probably 560 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,040 stop playing Warcraft. I would really really like for 561 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,120 an option if that's the only way to do it. 562 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Right now every tank that's any good uses a week or other tracks 563 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Their tanks, their code tank stacks of whatever D buff it is. 564 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,960 If we lose that ability, we need to have some way to pop out 565 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,200 specific frames from the raid frames which they don't mention, 566 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,160 but that's feedback that they can use because no tank is 567 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,480 staring at raid frames trying to find out how many stacks our 568 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 code tank has. But that's one change we're 569 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,880 making. They are putting all of our 570 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,400 buffs and stuff in places so it it looks it looks good. 571 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200 There is one thing I want to call out which looks to be an 572 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,280 out of. So right now it already you 573 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,720 could already have frames grey out that are out of range, but 574 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,040 this looks to be showing a line of sight indicator. 575 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:16,640 And honestly, this article came out October 23rd, so seven days 576 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,880 ago, six days ago as of this recording. 577 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,960 And everybody on the planet has theorized that that I with a 578 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,960 line through it is a line of sight indicator to say that this 579 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,600 person is not just out of range, which great, a great out raid 580 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,840 frame now means out of range. But this has an eye with a line 581 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,000 through it. Everybody that I know has 582 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,680 surmised that to mean it's a new line of sight indicator which 583 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,200 doesn't currently exist. And if it's not if, if, if it 584 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,040 has been guessed and theorized for six days that this is a line 585 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,200 of sight indicator and it's not, and Blizzard hasn't come out to 586 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,040 say, hey, no, no, say hey, we hear you. 587 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,320 And we know that that would be awesome. 588 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,960 That technology doesn't exist. It just means they're out of 589 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,080 range. If they haven't corrected people 590 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,240 and it's not a line of sight indicator, you're going to have 591 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,600 a lot of very angry people, a lot of angry healers. 592 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,200 I would love. I think it should be both. 593 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,720 I think it should be that through either line of sight or 594 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,880 range. You can't target this person. 595 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,040 Just put it as one symbol that covers both. 596 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Yeah, that works, but everybody has it like so right now the way 597 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,360 RAID frames work, grayed out is out of range and there is 598 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,400 nothing for line of sight. Having that eye on there and not 599 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,720 just grayed out has made people think, oh, hey, this means line 600 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,200 of sight if it's still no line of sight, because if somebody is 601 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960 in range but out of line of sight, they're fully they look 602 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,960 like they can be healed. So I'm just saying that after 603 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,600 six days of people celebrating what looks to be new 604 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,440 functionality, if it hasn't been like clearly corrected from 605 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,000 Blizzard to say, hey, that's not what this is. 606 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,480 It's going to be really it's going to be a blood path when it 607 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,520 find when it comes out that it's not what it is, but they look 608 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,520 great. So still some concerns. 609 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,600 It's it's a good, it's a really good starting point. 610 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,720 The the overlays for dispels is really nice. 611 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,680 The locked in positions for buffs and debuffs, which they 612 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,040 state in here where those go. That's also really nice to have 613 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,440 there. But there it's not this is not a 614 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,680 finished product. They're going to have three 615 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,440 different versions of this. But we, we still want to see 616 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200 because right now it said people will be able to add-ons will be 617 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,720 able to manipulate where things are in the frames. 618 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,280 But that doesn't solve the problem of we desperately, 619 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,800 desperately, desperately need to be able to select what buffs and 620 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,160 debuffs are shown in these frames. 621 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,880 Please, please, please let us do that. 622 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:49,040 I don't need to see, you know, that somebody has sated for the 623 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,600 next 9 minutes on their frame. I don't need to see that. 624 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,640 I don't need to see that, you know, their Hearthstone is on 625 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,160 cooldown or whatever. Like actually, I don't think 626 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,200 it's a debuff, but I just let us whitelist and blacklist buffs 627 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,920 and debuffs please. That is so important on 628 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,120 everything. Like not just the raid frames on 629 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,800 the cool down manager, on the name plates. 630 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,360 That's my number one ask for everything you're doing, 631 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,159 Blizzard, let us select give us that choice because I mean, 632 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,440 there's lots of examples outside of raid frames I want to get 633 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,000 into. But like the outbreak with Death 634 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,520 Knight Luxtos was just talking about it today on Twitter how if 635 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,280 you don't have a certain thing talented, there's no reason to 636 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,840 track outbreak, but you're still tracking it. 637 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,320 And so it's just a pointless information anyway, the rate 638 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,400 frames look good. It's a good starting point, but 639 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,320 we're in phase five. We know there's a phase 6 coming 640 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,080 of the alpha. We don't know if yet if there's 641 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,760 a phase seven this much. Like the damage meters, much 642 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,520 like the debuff tracking, much like the external defensives, is 643 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,480 not yet functional in the game, that's not implemented. 644 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,600 Much like sound alerts on boswangs, not yet implemented. 645 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,320 I would really like to be able to test some of the stuff and 646 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,560 not just look at a picture of it that was done up by AUI guy or 647 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,920 girl person. AUI person. 648 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,560 But while we are waiting, the carnage continues. 649 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,040 We have seen a number of additional add on developers say 650 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,000 that they are pausing support for many popular add-ons. 651 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:21,000 So we will see how quickly Blizzard can get it up to the 652 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,160 point where they get some of those that support. 653 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,480 But obviously we core said before LVUI now has said that 654 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,280 they they don't believe they can do support going forward. 655 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,240 There have been additional information put out to the devs 656 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,680 that show stuff that is coming with the phase five that we just 657 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,600 got this week that is coming with the reported phase six that 658 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,520 Sean alluded to earlier that we haven't seen an official 659 00:35:52,840 --> 00:36:01,040 confirmation on and beyond that. But at this point, I know the 660 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,360 conversation about add-ons has sort of overshadowed everything. 661 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:11,240 But this is a big reason why even if you are not currently in 662 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:15,840 the alpha, you should still get feedback, feedback in. 663 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,680 If you see, and you're like, OK, I won't have this. 664 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,600 It is fair to have your perspective go onto the forum, 665 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,080 say like, hey, like I use this for this reason, or I can't do 666 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,600 this without this. Like all of that is information 667 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,240 and let Blizzard sort it out because they asked for it. 668 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,160 It's their job to to sort it out. 669 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,440 With that said, let's let's move on. 670 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,640 We have heard some other unconfirmed rumors which kind of 671 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,160 got a click bait title from our dear friends at Wowhead. 672 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:58,680 The Windows Central website speculated about the power of 673 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,800 the next Xbox. It was them going off of some 674 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:11,200 statements and as well as some of their own insider sources to 675 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,600 talk about what the next Xbox will be capable of, what they 676 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,200 think it will be capable of, and what that might mean for various 677 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,240 functions of this console. And of course, 1 of it was that 678 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,720 this new Xbox is basically going to be a PC, a set PC in a 679 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,480 package that they sell as an Xbox. 680 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,640 And that means that it will be able to run anything that APC 681 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,480 should be able to add, including various game store fronts like 682 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,240 the Steam game front, Epic Store, and of course important 683 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:51,000 to us, the Blizzard Battle.net. If they can do that, that means 684 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,880 they're going to be able to download and run World of 685 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,800 Warcraft. But that doesn't mean like was 686 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,080 somewhat suggested and all over the Internet was there that Wow 687 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,760 was being reworked. They knew this was coming. 688 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,880 Wow was being reworked for consoles. 689 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520 Congratulations, all those conspiracy theorists. 690 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,080 You are finally proven right now. 691 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,760 It's just that the next Xbox is APC that they're naming Xbox and 692 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,320 so therefore it should be compatible with Wow. 693 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,920 But yeah, this was a fun, like, I think it was an afternoon of 694 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,240 people just going absolutely wild. 695 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,600 And in the show notes, I have literally linked just Wow and 696 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,560 consoles as a Twitter search, and you can see some of the wild 697 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,560 things that people were saying. It was great. 698 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,960 The Internet pundits did not disappoint. 699 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:50,120 Lex, if you could get Wow on your console, how happy would 700 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,160 you be? So I'm one of the people who was 701 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,560 dooming a little bit when this came out because. 702 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,880 So I was saying that I did not want World of Warcraft to be a 703 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,880 console game because I thought that changing it to reworking it 704 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,960 in a way that would make it accessible on consoles would 705 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,840 ruin a lot of what made World of Warcraft fun for me. 706 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,760 And I do not play on consoles for a reason. 707 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,720 And one of my friends very nicely in an attempt to calm me 708 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,280 down, said, oh, but Lex, you play Final Fantasy and Final 709 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,920 Fantasy is also console accessible. 710 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,200 Do you think it's a worst game because it's console accessible? 711 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,760 And in that moment, I hadn't really thought I, I don't know 712 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,120 if I didn't realize or hadn't thought deeply about it, but I 713 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000 didn't, had not really mentally processed that Final Fantasy was 714 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,920 a console game. And I suddenly understood all of 715 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,640 the things I hate about Final Fantasy. 716 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,040 And I'm like like, oh, that's why the mechanics suck. 717 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,160 That's why fight design is terrible, which I'm so sorry. 718 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,560 If you're a final fancy person, you're like, wow, I did not come 719 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,360 into for Aseroth expecting my Yum to be yucked. 720 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,240 Forgive me. I'm glad that you like your gum. 721 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:58,680 I think it's icky. I I, yeah, I am getting a little 722 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,160 bit convinced by my friends that World of Warcraft is being 723 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,200 worked for consoles. I don't know anything about game 724 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,840 development, so I don't know if that's true. 725 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,560 They've just very much talked me into that side. 726 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,800 But I I don't know how game devs work. 727 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,720 I don't know any of that stuff. But I hope it's not because I 728 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,360 don't think that MO mechanics are fun on consoles. 729 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,480 I think that is bad. This is again, because it is 730 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,160 APC, this allows them to avoid a lot of the hoops that they would 731 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,680 have to jump through to get all those sort of things onto this 732 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,760 system. So that means like all those 733 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,680 PlayStation exclusives that have come out to PC, well now they 734 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,360 can be run on this Xbox through this roundabout way. 735 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:49,720 If you've played on Steam OS, which can like backlog into the 736 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:55,640 Linux that it's running on or they have those, I forget what 737 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,280 the company is, you know what it's in the notes. 738 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,320 It is the Xbox Ally and like a number of companies have that. 739 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,160 There's the RG Ally and so forth. 740 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,920 But it is basically a glorified Steam Steam deck. 741 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,000 It's a quote UN quote console first. 742 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,000 So you boot and you play and you it goes right into your library 743 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,640 and you pick the game and you get to play. 744 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,960 Play your game off of it. The controls are typically 745 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,080 preset to be compatible with compatible games, but you can 746 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,760 play incompatible games, but you'll have to do a little bit 747 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,360 more work to set up the controls. 748 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:35,640 You can put various things onto that that aren't necessarily 749 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,520 meant for meant for it, but are just compatible with the base 750 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,160 hardware that's running in the background. 751 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,040 The Xbox would be much the same way, and that's why it allows 752 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,760 you to play Wow on there, but it doesn't mean that you're going 753 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,720 to be able to properly do half the things that you want to do 754 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,520 on Wow, especially on such a small screen. 755 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,640 I would hate to raid on an ally with a screen about that big 756 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,080 that would have to be hooked up to ATV or something to get the 757 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,400 details I want. Yeah. 758 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,320 And if that's the direction, if it's, if it's more that like, 759 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,840 oh, they're making the Xbox more of APC, so hype like, which is 760 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,480 what I, I want to say. I understand that's what they're 761 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,680 saying in the Wowhead article. I think that's great. 762 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,040 I if, if they were testing, because they did very explicitly 763 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,480 state you can play World of Warcraft through Battle.net. 764 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,440 And if, if that was them testing the waters to see how World of 765 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,600 Warcraft players would feel about World of Warcraft being 766 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,920 reworked to be played on a console, I feel bad about that. 767 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,760 Don't do it. I don't want you to do it. 768 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,800 Please don't don't worry about no thank you or at the very 769 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,360 least, don't you know, design your mechanics for PC players. 770 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,600 If the if the console players want to play the video game and 771 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,200 they want to turn on single button mode and they want to be, 772 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,800 you know, struggle with mechanics, more power to you, 773 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,360 but design it as APC game and who knows? 774 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,680 I don't know. I don't know how dev I I don't 775 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,160 know if it's true that the reason they put in single button 776 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,840 mode was because they were planning on making it go to 777 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,200 consoles eventually. Do I look like I understand how 778 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,840 to develop a video game? That's my take. 779 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,120 I I want to throw it to Sean, but also I do want to say that 780 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,360 like people who are running a Steam Deck have been playing Wow 781 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,320 on the Steam Deck already. Like I believe content creator 782 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,840 Mr. GM has done like even tutorials about how you can set 783 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,240 that up. So like it is possible now, but 784 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:28,520 obviously that's not the intention or like a evident 785 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,400 attention of the design of World of Warcraft or the developers. 786 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,600 It's just something that you're able to do, much like some 787 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,280 people have gotten the original doom to work on a pregnancy test 788 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,040 or something like that. So it's like just because it's 789 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,560 possible doesn't mean it's intended. 790 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,800 I want to pass it to you, Sean. Anything you want to throw in 791 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:55,840 there? I was just, I, I can't miss this 792 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,200 opportunity to potentially rile X up a little bit. 793 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,520 So I'm going to Lex. They're very clearly not 794 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,720 designing Warcraft for consoles because if they were, they'd 795 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:09,200 have to remove add-ons, simplify all the classes, remove 796 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,560 complexity from the the raid mechanics and implement 797 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,880 something that you could just like hold down 1 button and have 798 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,400 attacks happen. So it's very clear that Blizzard 799 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,560 is not developing console, the Warcraft for consoles. 800 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,600 There you go. I, I honestly don't think they 801 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,160 are, but that was a fun tweet that I saw this week and I 802 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,240 thought that it felt fitting because I'm pretty sure Alexa's 803 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,080 convinced they're developing Warcraft Forgotten. 804 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,440 But again, I don't know anything about game development. 805 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,120 My friends who know things about game development have made that 806 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,080 point to me, and I don't know how to like. 807 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Repeat it. It's like a huge huge process to 808 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,600 do a console port from APC game. Like right now there's not even 809 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,240 native controller support in Warcraft for them to port it to 810 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:02,160 Xbox to make it a console game you'd have to plug in a mouse 811 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,360 and keyboard still. Like otherwise, the only way to 812 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,920 do proper control support is with an add on, which on a 813 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,560 normal console you wouldn't be able to do. 814 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,880 The Blizzard team will never take on a project not fully 815 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,040 understanding how complex it is and like just release it really 816 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,360 rapidly and very under completed. 817 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,200 Has any listened listeners? You have to message Lex just 818 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,920 it's a lot. It's all you have to say. 819 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:32,080 I'm worried from my friend who is worried for the developers in 820 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,920 this game that we love. So if you don't want to support 821 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,680 Lex with messages of cheer and love, you can support us in a 822 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,000 number of different ways, including through Patreon. 823 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,200 Because nothing says I love you like some money. 824 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,120 At least that's what my mom tells me. 825 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,600 So, Sean, go ahead and tell us about our latest Patreon. 826 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,800 All right, we're staying on the Script this Week chat. 827 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,240 I guarantee it. Before I do any of that, I want 828 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:01,600 to give a special thanks to our newest Patreon, Dax. 829 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,200 Thank you so much, Dax, for your support. 830 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,080 We really appreciate you and welcome to the FAZ Verse. 831 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,920 Officially FAZ Universe. Although really, if everybody's 832 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,400 part of the Faz Verse, you don't have to be a patron. 833 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,200 That being said, for Azeroth, we'll always be free. 834 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,760 But if you enjoy the content we produce, consider pledging to 835 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,040 our Patreon at patreon.com/FAC. And I think it's a free option 836 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,080 too. You can just go there and hang 837 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,000 out. We are going to now be putting 838 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,680 our unedited full pre show and post show ramble in audio format 839 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,760 on the Patreon. So if you want to know what we 840 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,920 talk about when we're not talking about Warcraft as we get 841 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,840 ready to talk about Warcraft, you could jump on there and and 842 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,040 have a listen. Spoiler alert it's not very 843 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,880 exciting. I thought I mean it's thrilling 844 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,320 edge of your seat stuff. I. 845 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,120 Think it's fun? I think you're fun people. 846 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,040 I think it's fun to hear. I shoot the shit. 847 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,560 Sorry Manny, I did it again. Why do you guys just like, you 848 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,280 know, like stick to the script I just put so much effort into? 849 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,240 These so close. Listen Manny, you copied that 850 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:08,000 script from Joss. You don't get to take credit for 851 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,600 the Patriot script. I mean the rest of the the rest 852 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,400 of the notes which are really. Good script, just entirely. 853 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,760 Should I only read off the notes? 854 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,240 Manny, do you want no emotion and no thought for me? 855 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:20,640 Honestly. Actually, probably yes, based on 856 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,120 the number of times I've sworn in this episode and then snarked 857 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,520 at the people who like, no, yeah, Manny's like, yes, in 858 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,440 fact. In fact, why don't you talk to 859 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,640 us about Midnight Alpha Phase five, Lex, with the script right 860 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,440 there in front of you. A little earlier than in weeks 861 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,160 past, the next phase of the Alpha is here. 862 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,320 Level 90 Story and Quest. Level 90 Campaign, Chapter 1. 863 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,920 I regret I regret everything continue in regular. 864 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,640 OK, so Alpha phase 5 is here. Here we got a little sooner than 865 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,040 you expected. We so you can we're up to level 866 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,000 90. Now we have our story. 867 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,360 We're on to the level 90 quest, chapter one. 868 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,160 We have the Argentina visitor cross, which I'm very excited to 869 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,680 talk to you guys about because I did a little bit of that. 870 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,240 We have our weekly quest. You have to either use the the 871 00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,400 skip or complete the main campaign if you want to get 872 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,720 access to that. So if you're in alpha and you're 873 00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:17,760 like, oh, what are we going to do? 874 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,320 There you go. And you also have all previous 875 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,480 content. You can access that as well in 876 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200 housing. Budgets for the room placement 877 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,440 and decor are back to the levels close to about week 3. 878 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,360 I'm gonna be honest, every time I've logged in, housing has been 879 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,160 bugged, so I don't actually know what that means. 880 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,400 Somebody wanna tell me what that means? 881 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:41,600 So last week they had greatly slashed like the budget that you 882 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,600 had for like placing items in rooms or even the amount of 883 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,520 rooms that you could do. So like remember week 1 where 884 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,480 you're like, I've made 20 rooms and like, oh, I can't decorate 885 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,200 them all. That might not have been 886 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,800 possible last week and in. Fact. 887 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,560 Well, last week there was no housing like. 888 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,040 What I was going to. Say they drastically slashed. 889 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,000 But like, sorry, the the previous week, but then like on 890 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,160 top of that, people were saying that like, hey, with this new 891 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,240 greatly reduced ceiling of what we can put into rooms and how 892 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:18,000 many rooms we can have the the tutorial show house that they 893 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,760 have on the on the wow launcher wouldn't be possible. 894 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,480 Like it was. That was above these caps. 895 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,360 Like an insane person. Respectfully, if you're one of 896 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,120 the people in my discords, I think discords like it's not 897 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,640 just my guilt discord that I listen to. 898 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:34,760 OK, OK, I'm caught up. I'm caught up. 899 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:37,800 Dyes are back too by the way, in housing, so those were re 900 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,360 enabled. We have our delves, we have 901 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,800 Parhelion Plaza, the Dark Way, and we have Torments Rise, which 902 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,760 is our nemesis Delve. Prey is available. 903 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,520 I actually kind of can't believe I haven't tested that before 904 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,560 this game, this show, because I've been talking about it so 905 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,000 much. So I will test Prey and I'll 906 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,560 come back to you guys about if it's good next week. 907 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,240 Have you guys tested Prey? Do you guys know if it's good? 908 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,600 I I was working through most of the day so I did not have a 909 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,720 chance to test it. I didn't test it because I'm so 910 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,800 used to being the predator that I'm not used to being prey. 911 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,960 So this is what's confusing to me, what the prey system is. 912 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,840 I think you are the predator. No, don't you get jumped? 913 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,560 Something jumps you, right, It chases you down. 914 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,520 That's. The thing is, you're getting 915 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,800 jumped, but you're objectively stalking someone. 916 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,680 Oh, we're both the prey, Chat is telling us we're both the prey. 917 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,480 But then does that? Doesn't that make every nobody 918 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,400 the prey? You can't. 919 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,240 What if the real prey was the friends we made along the way? 920 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,440 Yeah, that's why they don't. That's why every time I try to 921 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040 run Mythic Plus with people they go offline almost. 922 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,120 Like 10 times worse because you rhymed like you're a poet and 923 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,360 you are unaware of the fact that it's just horrible. 924 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,240 Well, that I've ever single handedly ended a show before, 925 00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:47,520 OK. So yes, we'll definitely come 926 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,840 back with our first impressions of Prey 'cause I do think that 927 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,320 it is one of the more interesting things that they've 928 00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:00,120 added, especially as like quasi end game Pillar now that we're 929 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,960 getting gear out of it instead of it being just cosmetic like 930 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,040 they originally thought. I would like, I would like to 931 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,120 make a proposal that at least on the show and in the greater FAZ 932 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,960 verse, we stop calling any solo player content as an end game 933 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,520 pillar because it's just not. It's not why you can't. 934 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,480 Because you, you know, you knew that I was not to open mic Manny 935 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,240 and be like, oh, is it an end game pillar if it's ending at 936 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,080 the same point that most end game pillars start? 937 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,240 Like, I was gonna be a little snarky, a little talk about 938 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:30,000 that. Yeah okay. 939 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,480 Wait, so you're saying that the only way to be an end game 940 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,240 pillar is to provide the highest loot possible? 941 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,760 Yes, yeah, in order to be an end game pillar, you have to provide 942 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,440 gear that is equivalent to what you can get in the highest 943 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,400 content of the game. So Mythic plus BVP, because it's 944 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,160 a separate loot system and it's own and rating, those are the 945 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,720 three pillars. Yeah, crafting. 946 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,240 Sure, I'll put crafting in there. 947 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,720 Oh, that's no Oh, I see the point man he's about to make. 948 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,480 Because that's solo content. So there is a solo end game 949 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,280 killer. Thank you. 950 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,840 Solo crafting, not solo I I require people who have the 951 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,680 professions to craft the things for me. 952 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,960 Oh, that's a good point. Sean doesn't do his own work. 953 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,200 The crafters can't possibly level up all on their own 954 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,400 without help. Yes, they can tell me you've 955 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,840 never been. Well, I guess alchemists don't 956 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,760 make gear. I obviously know nothing about 957 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,040 crafting and I would like to move on. 958 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaking of crafting, you guys, you can test Sparks now, yeah? 959 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,680 They're so good at getting shows back on track. 960 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,560 Yeah, testing that, it doesn't seem like there's much 961 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,720 difference other than like the new changes in quality of items 962 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:44,840 and what you can craft. I do want to try and reach out 963 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,320 to somebody who is one of those like more in the crafting at 964 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,360 least if not like a serious gold maker to see what they think 965 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,520 things are shaping out. But that's I think it's always 966 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,520 something that I consider more in the beta and such when when 967 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,800 classes are more solidified, so we know what the classes would 968 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,040 be after. And like items haven't randomly 969 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:11,080 changed. But I I would be the thing about 970 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,800 professions is I would be more interested in them if they 971 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,000 actually counted for something. It's the one thing on Alpha Beta 972 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:26,040 that like I cannot do, I cannot test because it feels so running 973 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,920 on a hamster wheel, like I'm just doing work for the sake of 974 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,680 does this hamster wheel work rather than just. 975 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,840 Sitting in a rocking chair, it gives you something to do, but 976 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,320 you don't get very far. Pretty much, and which is funny 977 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,840 that I don't have that same consideration with any of the 978 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:44,920 questing any of the like time. I'm like wailing on some poor 979 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:51,120 practice dummy because I feel like when I do that, the 980 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,960 information that I get helps me when the game goes and 981 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,200 technically this crafting stuff should do that. 982 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,360 I don't know why I just have that mental divide there. 983 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,600 Because you don't think solo activities are really worth your 984 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,200 time. Yeah, but like testing. 985 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,200 That's why he's a cutting edge Raider. 986 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,520 Like I'm testing delves. I mean, we both know you're not 987 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,800 testing any delves, Sir. What I'm testing delves. 988 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,400 I'm enjoying delves anyways. Well, Speaking of Delves, there 989 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,280 is one thing that's not on the show notes that I do want to 990 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,720 bring up because Chad mentioned it and we would be remiss if we 991 00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:29,720 didn't. There's a new Hall of Fame for 992 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,320 the Delve Nemesis. Oh, that's the top. 993 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,000 The 1st 1000 People to Kill question mark. 994 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,640 Question mark. Not Kyvesa. 995 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,560 We'll be in the Delvers Hall of Fame. 996 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,440 How many only Delve players do you think will get that versus 997 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,840 how many CE rank one Raiders will get it because they're 998 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,560 doing it in Week 1. I think that they'll be healthy 999 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,600 mix of them because especially sorry in season 1 I suspect it 1000 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,160 will be tilted more towards the people doing a lot of different 1001 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,280 content because the gear disparity between where you 1002 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,240 start at just hitting level 80 and what you would need to 1003 00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:15,040 complete this will be the largest is going to be all 1004 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,200 expansion. However in season 2 and season 3 1005 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,400 I suspect that a lot of delve only players are going to tear 1006 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,280 through it and they're going to have a healthy representation on 1007 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:32,560 on the Hall of Fame board. Especially since the Chi Vesa 1008 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:38,720 stuff doesn't count towards your vault in terms of dropping, 1009 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,760 dropping loot like you would get at the end of a normal delve. 1010 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,320 And therefore the people who are more focused on raise, the 1011 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,600 people who are more focused on M plus and gearing for that are 1012 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,800 less likely to push along that mind you, you know, people who 1013 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,520 have done funnier stuff for Hall of Fame. 1014 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,960 There's a lot of, there's a lot of social and reward aspects 1015 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,400 that I think will make this different. 1016 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,840 OK, all right, that was a well thought out answer. 1017 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,320 I have no snarky reply. OK, I I I will give you a little 1018 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,560 snarky thing that you didn't quite consider. 1019 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,440 You don't give this same shade to people who get title in M 1020 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,720 Plus or who get Hall of Fame in in raid. 1021 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,080 Say how many people who just raid get Hall of Fame in raid? 1022 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,800 So your bias is showing on that. Just raids get gets Hall of Fame 1023 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,000 and and I will actually actually say I do think it's frustrating 1024 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,120 as a Raider that I like by definition have to do non raid 1025 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,920 things. I'm happier now that I have 1026 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,320 Dallas, but I I could throw fit for hours about that back when 1027 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,320 the only real way to get a gear outside of raid is with mythic 1028 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,600 plus. I reserve all of my mythic plus 1029 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,240 title snark for people selling boosts to title. 1030 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:56,080 OK, all right, I will. I will say Lex, that I think 1031 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,120 that if you are going to play at the highest levels, whether that 1032 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:04,720 is PvP, whether that is title pushing M plus, whether that is 1033 00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:11,480 Hall of Fame raids or this Hall of Fame delves, being able to 1034 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,800 get the best from all versions of the game should give you an 1035 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,000 advantage that that kind of mastery of the entirety of the 1036 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,000 game being funneled towards something I think is something 1037 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,560 I'm a OK with. Now, I don't think that you as 1038 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:37,080 an AOTC Raider, right, should feel that you need to get 12 1039 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:43,400 pluses to unlock mythic level gear or 10 pluses to get it in 1040 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,160 your vault so that you can overpower the heroic raid. 1041 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,400 That to me is a struggle That should that that I'm glad that 1042 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,400 they are dressing. I, I what's in between there? 1043 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,680 That that's where I'm like, OK, I'm not so sure. 1044 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,040 That's super fair. I will say, and I've said this 1045 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,520 on the show before, I would be more on your side to wimp both 1046 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,280 ways if there was nobody pushing mythic plus title. 1047 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,600 And maybe I'm wrong. I don't actually really know who 1048 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,960 pushes title because I'm not a high level player, but my 1049 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,800 understanding is there is a lot of people who push M plus and 1050 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,600 only like I I I have never heard any mythic plus player say you 1051 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,800 know. What sucks is the fact that I 1052 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,120 have to do a minimum of three hours of rating every single 1053 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,720 week if I want to be able to push keys. 1054 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,960 There are those people, There are definitely, yeah. 1055 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,560 And like some very popular content creators who only Mythic 1056 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:37,440 Plus or who are very vocal about the fact that they only raid 1057 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,320 because the best trinket or the best cantrip item is in the 1058 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,160 raid. J dot B, one of the best healers 1059 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:50,320 in the world, multiple MDI competitor and yeah, hates 1060 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,680 raiding. Julie hates it and is very vocal 1061 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,000 about the fact that he shouldn't have to raid to just play M plus 1062 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,680 and he's not alone. Yeah, there is a lot of people 1063 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,040 and there's a there is a lot of Raiders. 1064 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,760 You're not alone either Lex there. 1065 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,080 Even on our rating there are. There's one in the chat who if 1066 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,320 they didn't have to do mythic plus for the gear edge that it 1067 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,360 gives them a mythic rating, they wouldn't. 1068 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,280 They would never step foot into a mythic plus. 1069 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,400 One of them convinced our entire rate team to run normal instead 1070 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,800 of LFR this week for the DNR buff just so they wouldn't have 1071 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,800 to do 4 dungeons. Which is so valid, just me 1072 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,080 convincing people to do heroic. So yes, OK, OK, well, then then 1073 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,040 I'm not and that's super fair. And I will own that. 1074 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,160 And I guess there is actually give and take and that's you 1075 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,000 know, but I OK, I'll I'll I'll buy that Manny that it's valid 1076 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,680 to do better in the game if you're able to do all of the 1077 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,120 types of the game, then if you just specialize in one thing. 1078 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,920 My my dark confession is that I hate pet battling because there 1079 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,400 are certain amounts that are behind pet battling and I don't 1080 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,080 want to do pet battling to get those mounts. 1081 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,480 And so like selfishly I wish that they would change pet 1082 00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,280 battling so that like pets would even have the pet battle anymore 1083 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,400 in future expansions. I'm just going to slip that to 1084 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,320 Faz Dev so that maybe I get my way. 1085 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,480 How do you hate? Animals. 1086 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,240 Can't you just like super squirt day and juice up? 1087 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,920 Never touch super squirt day that that seems like getting way 1088 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,920 into pet battling than I have any wish to ever do I've done. 1089 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,520 Casting for pet babbling and I don't know what you guys, I 1090 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,800 actually I only did casting. Because I have to know what 1091 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,480 Super Squirt. Listen, if anybody on this 1092 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,800 podcast knows Super Squirt Day, Lex, it's you. 1093 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,480 You're the pet battler. Surely it's like the power 1094 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,920 leveling day for for animals in your Garrison or something. 1095 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,160 Yeah, and I, I should also say that I was invited to pet battle 1096 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,600 to, to cast pet battles because they wanted somebody who could 1097 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,560 kind of like counter the person who understood pet battling and 1098 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,280 like explain it to the audience. So I was the idiot, which is, 1099 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,880 you know, I'm like, I'm the idiot on another form of, of 1100 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,320 content creation that people use to like be the audience. 1101 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,960 I don't know. Anyway, because of the episode 1102 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,840 relaxed as a hater, how do you guys feel about Argentina? 1103 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,160 Oh, I haven't tried it yet, but I guess. 1104 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,840 That's why OK, so last last episode, Sean was trying to give 1105 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,360 a shout out to the to one of the fast devs was like, hey, 1106 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,120 whichever one of you fast dev created that mini game where you 1107 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,360 like untie the lines and stuff, love you and everything. 1108 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,600 There's an infinite version of that in the Argentina. 1109 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,360 Are. You serious? 1110 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,280 Yeah, the the one where you switched the pipes around in the 1111 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,600 Argentina. End it, I gotta go log. 1112 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:35,240 In Yeah and you get introduced to it as part of the Air Thor 1113 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,520 storyline. So it so it is something you can 1114 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,680 get pretty quickly. Anybody needs me? 1115 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,160 I'm a I'm a line on Tangler Maine now. 1116 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,640 Is there a Hall of Fame for this Can I get nothing gear from the 1117 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,640 Can I get nothing gear from? It oh wait, we we need gear. 1118 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,280 Yeah, we need gear. Otherwise it's not natural end 1119 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,280 game. Anyway, I'm a lion on Tangler. 1120 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,880 That's my new, my new end game. I'm off the right team. 1121 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,920 Somebody tell Barack. Warrior line on Tangler. 1122 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,120 That's right. Race the world straight 1123 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,800 untangling. Yeah, that's right, world. 1124 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,840 Strange. Unfortunate pause. 1125 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,880 We'll continue. Yeah, that's probably gonna be, 1126 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,280 well, the offensive. We'll get letters. 1127 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,600 Yeah, you can send those the bit dot LY slash fast discord. 1128 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,560 And then of course, as we are now reaching phase five, they 1129 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,000 have been putting in a number of things that are part of the end 1130 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,080 game. So as we were talking about the 1131 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,400 Argentina Lex, you were talking about Prey. 1132 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,280 But there are all of those events that are in the different 1133 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,240 areas that allow you to do different things. 1134 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,120 So we've got the Legends of the Herrenar, which is the lore 1135 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:45,040 based 1 the Stormarian Citadel, which is the one in the Void 1136 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,440 Storm, the Amani Abyss. Again, that's hair and our 1137 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,400 abundance is in all of the zones. 1138 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:59,160 And of course the Satharils soiree, which we well one it's 1139 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,520 in silver moon, but we believe that is something along the 1140 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,920 lines of Ambercord. The other thing that's part of 1141 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,480 the end game are class sets. They they had some implemented 1142 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,840 with last one. And then this week we've added a 1143 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,880 lot more. All of these look very, very 1144 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,840 basic. They're just straight flat DPS 1145 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:25,040 increases for particular moves. I think it's, it's worth noting 1146 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,320 that all the tank ones were also damage increases. 1147 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:32,440 They're not like defensive increases, which, you know, I, I 1148 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,200 like that for a tank sometimes, like you're just survivable 1149 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,040 enough and getting a little more damage feels better as a tank. 1150 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,840 Yeah, plus one. Plus one for that. 6/7. 1151 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,960 No, I'm leaving the show. I don't want to hear that ever 1152 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,040 again. Am I doing it right? 1153 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:55,080 Am I? I don't know, I just saw a clip. 1154 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,800 Except. Little dear good. 1155 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,920 Anyways, do you check out the notes? 1156 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,920 There are a lot of class changes still going on, so make sure you 1157 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,080 are checking that and we will be back next week with even more. 1158 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,920 Manny. Sarah, will you cater about the 1159 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,920 Argentina? And I've never heard him change 1160 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,800 the topic faster in his life. I have a question. 1161 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,680 They've been tuning the class sets like the book class sets in 1162 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,240 a few weeks ago. They've been tuning stuff like 1163 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,520 that. There's been no end game content 1164 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,320 available to test. What are they basing the tuning 1165 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,840 on? They were tuning the sets, 1166 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,560 they've been adding in the sets, right? 1167 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,600 Pretty. Sure, I saw changes to damage 1168 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,520 numbers for some of the sets. Well, some of them are based on 1169 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,320 the class tuning, which means that the set now needs to 1170 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,960 reflect that, right? OK, alright, I'll buy that. 1171 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,480 That works. I'll take it now. 1172 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,560 You may end. OK, until next time guys, may 1173 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,840 all your hits be crits.