1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Maybe you'll get the loot that much faster because you got EP 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,880 mcsween up on your raid. I've done a dungeon with him, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,440 he's actually pretty good at mechanics. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,560 He's a blowhard. We don't need him. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:18,000 Victory for the Forsaken. For Lauderon for the Karen tour 6 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:20,760 for. Pandaria. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,400 For calendar to the. Burning region for Gilnaeus or 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,440 has not died for the Lich king for the. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Sindora for the alliance. For the horn for Azeroth. 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,240 Hello and welcome back to another episode of For Azeroth. 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,320 I am one of your hosts, Manny, and of joining me is of course 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,000 the other two parts of The Triumphant. 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Of course, joining us first is Lex. 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,240 Lex, how is the World of Warcraft treating you this week? 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,240 It's been treating me well. I have really dug into delves 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,600 again this week and in fact this week I had the thought, you 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,360 know, I don't actually have to do M plus for this entire season 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,000 if I don't want to. And I like felt my body relax. 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,440 So looks like I'm not doing M plus this season but that's OK 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,320 because I have my fun little delves to gear through and get 21 00:01:20,320 --> 00:01:24,080 my hero gear and I get to Bob with my raid and have a good 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,200 time. OK. 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,560 OK. And you're, I know you had done 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,160 8 and I think you had tried an 11 last week. 25 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Are you still doing around there? 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,960 I tried a nine. Isn't it hard? 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,920 You guys are right, they're tough, but I did like having a 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,720 little bit more challenge. I will also say the undertaker 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,520 is wait, no, not the the underpin. 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 The underpin, excuse me, man's tricky. 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,320 He has so many ads it's crazy. So we're going to keep working 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,480 on that, but. It's not the. 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,680 So that's going to be question mark, not double question mark, 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,080 OK. Yeah. 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Just question Mark. No, no. 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,800 I started with double question mark. 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,720 I was like, I bet I can do this. I bet it's not as hard as people 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,400 were saying. And then I went back out and was 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,880 like, I'm going to do this on one question mark. 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,520 I bet I can do that. That's probably not as hard as 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,120 people are saying. And then I went out and I'm 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,200 like, I'm going to gear a little more and then we'll try again. 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,280 Got it, got it. And where are you in your gear 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,520 progression? I am up to 641. 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,080 I have 0 jewellery from this season though, so both of my 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,800 rings and my necklace are 619. Season 1 little grey text and I 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,120 really got to figure out crafting and I've never crafted 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,200 anything in my life and I'm broke as a joke so I'm probably 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,680 not actually going to figure out crafting. 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,040 But I got it. I got it because I really should 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,160 not be at this point in the game with no necklace and no rings 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,920 for this season. But maybe next of all. 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,120 OK, I mean, necks are hard to come by this season. 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,720 I actually did a search through and looked at all the things. 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,360 It's just like there's barely any neck drops the dungeon pool 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,600 cause like we've got dungeons from BFA, right? 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Which means no necks there. And there are literally 22IN all 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,360 of the dungeon pools. And then in the raid, I think 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,560 there's two for me. It's, it's, it's pretty, pretty 60 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,440 vicious. So you're, you're not alone. 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,880 I've crafted a neck and I'm going to be re crafting a neck 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,280 as soon as I get a enough of the concentration to do the earthen 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,360 crafted. Cause I've been making that neck 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,160 for everybody else. And now I know why. 65 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,760 Yeah. Let's get an order from me, 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Manny. That's why there. 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,760 You go, you just let me know. I can. 68 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,720 I can do some Joel crafting. I'll jump into your guilt for a 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,480 little bit quickly. Make it for you. 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,760 You're broke as a joke, so this will be a labor of love, not 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,280 profit. I have some money, I have like 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,320 50,000 gold I think. Not even my of all my war band, 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,400 not even the lowest salt has only 50K. 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Anyways, going over to somebody who might also be a little bit 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,360 broke as a joke because it is that that part of going through 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,320 progression and so forth. Sean, hello, how are you and 77 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,000 how's the World of Warcraft been treating you? 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Warcraft's been great. I'm actually pretty flushed this 79 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,960 season. I did a bunch of farming at the 80 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,240 end of last season once we wrapped up everything, so I 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,880 haven't had to buy a token yet. So there you go Manny. 82 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:24,520 I'm sitting on an easy 4 to 500 K rich there. 83 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,080 You go, there you go. That's that's pretty solid 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,640 there. Yeah, Warcraft's been great. 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,400 I we killed Sticks Bunk Junker on NA last week. 86 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,720 It was a pretty good kill. The team did really well and 87 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,560 then we got Sprocketmonger lock and stock, first of his name, 88 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:50,760 King of the Andals to 31%. I want to say no 34%. 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,160 And then on EU, I read on EU as well. 90 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,280 We, we got AOTC on Sunday, which is it's an AOTC Guild that I'm 91 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:00,560 in on EU because I couldn't possibly maintain 2 mythic 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,400 rating characters on two different regions. 93 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,000 And that was a lot of fun. That team did great. 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,480 So we're in the postseason for them, which means I can start my 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,720 gold farm early over there. We're only one month in. 96 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,600 I got about 5 months of of herbing and mining to do so 97 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,480 that's pretty good. So I should be good for gold for 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,720 a bit. It's tough one of you because I 99 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,200 can't buy tokens there. I'm a big big fan of the token 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,560 purchase, but because I have an NAB net account, I can't 101 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,480 purchase EU tokens. I would have to change the 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,040 region of my B net, which would then mean I couldn't buy NA 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,600 tokens. So I am restricted to only 104 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,640 getting gold in EU by farming. Wait, how hard is it to change 105 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,680 your region though? Like could you just like do that 106 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 on like a daily basis anytime you wanted to? 107 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:44,880 I'm going. To be honest with you, I don't 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,160 know, but it's a minor annoyance, which means it's 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,760 beyond the scope that I'm willing to consider that's. 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,480 Entirely fair. It's actually impossible. 111 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,720 Yeah, I, we tried to change the faucet in our bathtub on 112 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,360 Saturday. Honestly wanted to put a we have 113 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,320 like a one of those cast iron claw foot bathtubs and it just 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,600 had a faucet like a like a what do you spell it? 115 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,880 And. You rub oil? 116 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Yeah, we rub oil on it. Yeah. 117 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,520 You got to get them. You got to season them. 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,720 You got to be. And so she wanted a wanted like 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,400 a shower nozzle on there and put a shocker around it. 120 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,760 To swap a faucet in a bathroom like that, because it's open, 121 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,520 it's. It should be as easy as you undo 122 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,120 the compression nuts that are currently on the faucet. 123 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,760 Take the two lock nuts off. Pull the faucet open, put the 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,080 new faucet in, lock nuts on. Reattach the compressor nuts. 125 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,640 Bob, Compression nuts. Bob's your uncle. 126 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,480 It was not that easy for us. It was 6 1/2 hours. 127 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,560 One of the compression nuts was bent. 128 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 At one point there was water spraying all over the back of 129 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,600 the wall when we tried to see if we had put them on right. 130 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,640 I then attempted to get it to stop dripping. 131 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,000 I have multiple bruises and four cuts and we ended up calling a 132 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,040 plumber who came on Monday and at that point we were so 133 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,880 frustrated with the new shower nozzle that we put in that we 134 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,040 asked him just to put the old one in. 135 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:08,400 So I spent this weekend $230 on a new shower faucet for our 136 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,800 bathtub and then $125.00 to have a plumber put it all back the 137 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,040 way it was before we started. Which for those keeping a score 138 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,840 at home, is what Anjali suggested we do on Saturday 139 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,960 morning. She said, why don't we just get 140 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,360 an attachment on the wall with a little claw and I'll just 141 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,640 because the one we have up there now has like a, one of those 142 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 handheld things with a hose. She's like, I'll just hang it up 143 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,880 on there. She's the one that's here. 144 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,400 I'll just hang it up. And I was like, no, no, no, we 145 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,920 got to get you a nice one. We have. 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,280 It's going to be easy. It's going to be so easy. 147 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,200 Anyway, Warcraft great. I'm. 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,880 Really glad Angela is back. Yeah, I'm glad she's back too. 149 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,120 You know, I'm glad she's back. But while she was gone, there 150 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:47,680 was no plumbers required in this house. 151 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,640 And I believe pretty soon you're going to be hopping across the 152 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,640 pond. Yeah. 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:04,280 May I fly out May 7th for LFG 2 and that runs May 10th and 11th. 154 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:10,000 And I can't announce it yet because they haven't announced 155 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 it yet, but there will be a special recruiter friend episode 156 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:21,880 recorded live on scene with somebody that is very cool. 157 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,680 Oh, is it me? It is. 158 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,880 It could be you. No it. 159 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,080 Couldn't because I'm going to be in. 160 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Boss, but I can't. But I can't say who it is, but 161 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,919 it's, it's, I'm pretty excited about it. 162 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,120 I'm really looking forward to to talking to this person. 163 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,240 They have mirrors at home. If you want to talk to somebody, 164 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,360 cool, you don't have to fly out. That's true. 165 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,960 I'm talking to two cool people right now. 166 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Yeah. And I'm in the conversation too. 167 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,840 So I'm glad that World of Warcraft is going well for you 168 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,680 guys. That progression is going well 169 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:57,760 in delves and rating and so forth. 170 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:04,240 But one thing that has been hitting the servers is a number 171 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:11,000 of hot fixes for not delves, not raids, but the dungeons. 172 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,720 And I'm. I'm glad to see these hot fixes. 173 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,600 I'm glad to see them constantly changing things. 174 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Last week we had fortified, but it was like OG fortified, not 175 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,560 the regular fortified. Instead of getting the nice 20% 176 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:29,600 health buff, the these guys were packing more punch than usual 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,680 and Blizzard took some time, realized oops that was a mistake 178 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,720 and we got the proper fortified back. 179 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,400 And I'm glad for that. Were you doing dungeons quick 180 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,160 enough for this, or did this elude your your sights there, 181 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Sean? I mean, I had been doing 182 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,360 dungeons since this this, this bug was in place for the whole 183 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,480 start. Like this has been in place 184 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,920 since start of the season. So everybody was doing them 185 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,360 harder than they should have been, and they feel a lot easier 186 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,600 now. Pull sizes have increased. 187 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,320 Get ready for those MDI pulls. Lex. 188 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,240 I can't believe I have to just ask this. 189 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:14,640 This is the best Mythic Plus season I think I've ever played 190 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,440 in terms of both accessibility and fun, and this is the season 191 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,760 you're choosing to quit. Yeah, So I, so first of all, I 192 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,720 think Mythic Plus is I, I, I want to be really clear, that 193 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,240 was not me saying other people should also quit Mythic Plus. 194 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,960 The only argument I would like to make from that is to remember 195 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,480 that this is a video game that exists for fun. 196 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,440 And if there's anything in this video game that's not fun for 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,720 you, just don't. Just don't do it. 198 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,080 Simply don't. It it the why why it's it to to 199 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,200 be clear, if you are a professional World of Warcraft 200 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 player, don't listen to me. Listen to your boss. 201 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,160 Then you do do all the hard stuff. 202 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,200 You're getting paid for it. I do hard stuff at work. 203 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,680 I mean not as hard as what you do probably, but I do stupid 204 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:54,240 things that I hate at work and it's the job. 205 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,640 That's why you're making money. But if you are not getting paid 206 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,840 for World of Warcraft, it's a poopa doopa doopa video game. 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Have a good time. I so mythic plus hits this 208 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,840 perfect in between spot for me. We're like in a raid. 209 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,080 I don't feel like everyone's looking at me and I'm like 210 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,200 everyone knows when I'm doing a bad job because there's a 211 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,800 million other people. It's fun, right? 212 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,520 Even when I was a healer, there's a bunch of other people. 213 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,840 It's no big you tank a little bit. 214 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,760 I felt like I but that's, you know, whatever it's there's two 215 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,880 of them. They'll figure it out. 216 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,680 If I die, then the other tank gets cool because he gets to 217 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,160 kill the boss on his own. Everyone's like, oh, Kirk, 218 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,040 you're so good, you know, who cares? 219 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,760 I was actually I was trying to make Kirk look good. 220 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,280 So raid. I feel like I can kind of blacks 221 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,960 and vibe with my friends and just hoop like, you know, not 222 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,240 stress delves. Obviously it is me in a room and 223 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,800 I am bopping right along and we're having a good time and 224 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,520 everything is great. And so, you know, who cares? 225 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,680 Nobody's looking at me. We're having we're having fun 226 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,200 and plus I feel like everyone is looking at me and I feel like, 227 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,480 especially because all of my friends are really experienced 228 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,720 mythic plus players, I like every time things are going 229 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,360 badly, I feel like it is my fault And I am like, everyone is 230 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,520 just taking this like horrible carry. 231 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,080 So like, you know, to to power through and like everyone's like 232 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,200 having a bad time and they could be having a good time if they 233 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,800 were playing with anyone else, but they're playing with me. 234 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,400 He's having a bad time. So mythic plus has always been a 235 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,520 little bit overly like more stressful for me. 236 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,440 And I felt very like observed and like even even outside. 237 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,160 And I want to be really clear. This is I none of my friends 238 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,320 have ever made me feel like a bad carrier. 239 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,640 My friends are incredible. They're wonderful. 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,160 They just want to play with me. I know that in my thought brain, 241 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,360 I know that in my feeling brain, I feel like an asshole. 242 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:41,680 Sorry, Manny, but so for like even beyond that, like I just, I 243 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,920 feel like everyone can see when I make a mistake in mythic plus 244 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,960 in a way that I don't really feel enraged because there's so 245 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,760 many more people and I don't feel in doubt because they're 246 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,040 zero people. So mythic plus is always tough 247 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,800 for me. And then this tier, there's, you 248 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,520 know, gestures vaguely, the happenings of the world that 249 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,160 have my anxiety up. And also everything that I do 250 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,280 has to compete against the other option, which is sitting on a 251 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,400 couch while a little puppy snuggles her little body into me 252 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,360 and looks at me with more love than I've ever seen anyone look 253 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,280 at me in my life. So anything that like doesn't 254 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,280 bring more joy like then a little puppy look and snuggling 255 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,040 up at me and looking at me with more love than I've ever seen 256 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,840 anyone look at me in my life. It it's just, it doesn't feel as 257 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,320 good, right? So this season in particular, I 258 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,560 have found that the stressors of mythic plus are not outweighing. 259 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:37,840 I'm sorry, the the stressors are outweighing the joy for me. 260 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,760 And I would just rather have a slow little tier where it takes 261 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,840 me a while to gear. But I'm bopping through my, you 262 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,080 know, couple delves every week. I'm getting my keys in and then 263 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,560 I'm going in a rating with all my besties. 264 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:51,120 We're having a fun little time. We're chatting, chatting, 265 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,920 chatting away and nobody's looking at me because there's a 266 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,720 million people and I spend the other nights snuggling with my 267 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,600 little puppy. Yeah, you had me a puppy. 268 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,720 I get it. You're also going to have 269 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,080 horrific visions in 11 point 1.5 which are also solo content and 270 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,240 they come with a friend from Sora Dormy so and they drop 271 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,600 heroic tier gear so I'm sorry Heroic track gear. 272 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,000 I'm going to be the geared out most geared out person in my 273 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,240 guilt. Yeah, there you go. 274 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,600 All right. You know what, Lex? 275 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:18,600 You're right. You should quit this season. 276 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Hell yeah. And again, I'm not saying that 277 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Mythic Plus is bad. First of all, everything that I 278 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,880 said is ridiculous. Can I first say that I know that 279 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,720 every single thing I said about Mythic Plus and everyone 280 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,720 watching me and feeling that I care, that's stupid. 281 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,120 That's dumb. If you feel that way, you're 282 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,320 wrong. That's not how it goes. 283 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,240 That's not how anyone feels. And if they do feel like that, 284 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,160 they're an idiot. All of the mistakes are your 285 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,800 fault, but nobody cares. Yeah, exactly. 286 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,880 That's true. That's true. 287 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,840 But so if, if, if what you want right now is somebody to tell 288 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,720 you no, no, no, it's actually OK, you should do Mythic. 289 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Plus good kind people will want to play with you. 290 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Even if you're learning. It's OK to learn. 291 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,280 It's OK to make mistakes. No biggie. 292 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,120 If it is a biggie to somebody, they're a jerk and you should 293 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,560 cut them out of your life. I've heard that's so true. 294 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Everything that I just said is 100% correct. 295 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,480 Go do mythic plus have fun. If what you want is somebody to 296 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,840 tell you it's a, it's a silly little video game and if 297 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,920 anything is not making you feel good in it right now, it's OK to 298 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,440 just decide that's not a thing you're going to do. 299 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Whether that's mythic plus, whether that's raid, whether 300 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,920 that's grind gold obviously is another one that I don't do. 301 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,920 Whether that's Delve, babe, I got you. 302 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,880 Don't do the bad. Don't do things that feel bad in 303 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,480 a silly video game. It's silly video game. 304 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Go have fun with your silly video games and boop, boop, 305 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,040 boop, boop. Have fun. 306 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Anyway, that's my take of the day. 307 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,920 So I think, yeah, if you're enjoying dolls and you're like 308 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,960 finding your love in that, like it's it's a good path. 309 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,800 And we had the conversation a couple episodes back, right 310 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,840 about the items that you can get from there and the gearing you 311 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,720 can get from there. And if you're ALT focused, that 312 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,880 will get you some pieces to fill in slots and such. 313 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:03,040 In fact, this season the Delve gear has been actually pretty 314 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,320 solid. In fact, two of the trinkets 315 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,240 from Delves have been quite good. 316 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:14,080 I mean they're no Sephorium trinket, but there is one 317 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:20,240 trinket that at a heroic level I think is even including mythic 318 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,560 mythic level trinkets is actually quite competitive and 319 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,280 the A tier trinket for enhancement shamans. 320 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,360 And I think for a lot of classes that like stats, there was also 321 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,120 a big change with a lot of trinkets recently, where the 322 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,960 proctic trinkets, the trinkets that did damage that the ones 323 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,000 that weren't just giving stats are have been buffed. 324 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,200 And so would have to look at those again. 325 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,120 But yeah, they're like, you can get the you can get the gear 326 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,400 from delves that'll help you push through. 327 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,440 You're playing a Demon Hunter. So it is that damage is always 328 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,080 going to be good for you in in Havoc. 329 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,760 But going back to the mythic plus that we started with, there 330 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,280 were a number of changes over the last little a bit now 331 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,240 multiple days, I think every two days, every other day we were 332 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,400 seeing like some sort of changes for a mythic plus. 333 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,240 So the 26th, there was one, there was one in between. 334 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,480 There was one that was scheduled for the reset and stuff came in 335 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,599 with the reset. So we are now seeing some 336 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:36,000 beautiful hot fixes the in the the theater of pain, the Xav the 337 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,880 unfallen crushing slam now has a proper visual so you could see 338 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,000 where it's lined up. Oh, I like I didn't see these 339 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,840 hot no, these hot fixes at 1st and I was running a dungeon and 340 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,800 suddenly it's like, wait, there's a line there? 341 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,400 What when the hell it was? It was glorious. 342 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,280 One thing that I thought was hilarious that I knew about this 343 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,200 like behavior before and I'm kind of glad they fixed it, is 344 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,560 that dark Fuse demolitionists, when they get when they're under 345 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,000 the effect of dominate mind by a priest, they're not constantly 346 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:17,040 firing off their big RPG thing that had caused wipes because 347 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,520 just it would pull everything in like 80 yard radius was causing 348 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,320 a lot of wipes. Now that's being fixed. 349 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Priests can still mind control them, but they won't be going 350 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,840 absolutely insane. Boo but it's being mind 351 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,280 controlled. They should be going absolutely 352 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,640 insane. No, no, you keep them under 353 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,480 control and Sandy is a separate part of priests and only a 354 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:45,880 particular flavor of priests. There was also where, again in 355 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,680 theater of pain, the deaf speakers that do the death 356 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,520 winds, those will actually fire off in the location in the 357 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,320 direction they're facing. I have seen some poor people who 358 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,320 thought they were safe, but unfortunately that storm went 359 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,840 off in a different direction, blowing them right off the 360 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:08,000 platform and then causing a death, so I'm glad that that got 361 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,800 fixed as well. Is there anything in these hot 362 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,640 fixes that you guys are are really happy to see? 363 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,600 The increased minimum distance for swamp face is nice because 364 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:29,200 often times one of the roots, the protruding roots would spawn 365 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,840 like right underneath them. It would be really hard to see. 366 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,200 So now you should be able to see them. 367 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,600 They should be far enough distance so you'll be able to 368 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,600 see them fully. I mean, that's the one I'm 369 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,840 really excited about. I'm I'm always I'm pro hot fix 370 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,280 all the time. Anytime you're making dungeons 371 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,360 easier or fixing a pain point that would make things more 372 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:48,640 difficult than needed to be is a win more to. 373 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,920 Lose the hot fixes should be on Theatre of Pain to fix the pain 374 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,760 points. I see what you. 375 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,640 Detect. I mean. 376 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,680 I mean the priority of the sacred flame, even though it 377 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:05,440 doesn't have pain in the in the name, has had a number of pain 378 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,600 points. I think they did three separate 379 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:16,000 hot fixes to forge Master Damien alone because he was just like 380 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:19,720 he was a slog for some teams and as the damage went up his 381 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,720 abilities coming. Fast and Furious has have been 382 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,880 adjusted and I'm glad for that. But yeah, I, I, I really do 383 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,000 think that this season is really good. 384 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,280 I'm sorry that you're taking a little break from it, but maybe 385 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,600 with Season 3 you might give it another chance. 386 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Maybe would be fun. I would. 387 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,160 I want to. I want a tank. 388 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,320 It's just the getting to that point and feeling like I not 389 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,800 understand what I'm doing enough to be having a good time is a is 390 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,000 a bigger gap to bridge than I thought it would be. 391 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,160 I I might suggest, well last week was when you did 4 mythic 392 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,160 zeros and you could get the thing, but you could just run it 393 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:07,360 with as like DPS, see how the pools are, get a feel for it. 394 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Like as Adps, we're less of the pressure, you're less of a 395 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,600 linchpin. And then translate that for when 396 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,240 you want to tank and be like, OK, let me tank at a lower than 397 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,080 I'm used to. So it's a little more 398 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,920 comfortable. And you already know the pools 399 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,160 and some of the behaviors and stuff. 400 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,120 And that might be a good way of going into it rather than going 401 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:29,520 into it really late in the season where everybody already 402 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,920 kind of knows what they're doing. 403 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:35,800 And then it feels bad to like not be pulling at the crazy rate 404 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,400 that you might see somebody like Sean pull. 405 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,000 Yeah, and I think that's one reason why Season 1, I I felt 406 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,280 like I could dip my toes into tanking because I did, I had 407 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,560 done a lot of DPS already. And so I felt like I kind of 408 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,440 understood the routes. And then I learned very quickly 409 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,680 that I didn't at all. But no, I think that's a really 410 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,200 good idea to like start out in a thing that would feel a bit less 411 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,000 stressful and then see what people are doing and focus on 412 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,560 learning it. Yeah, that totally would work if 413 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,760 I didn't want to snuggle my puppy instead of doing that. 414 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,280 Yeah, the puppy wins. I get it. 415 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,240 I get it. OK. 416 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,400 That's the real thing. I really everything right now is 417 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,040 competing like I I I am doing just enough that I can 418 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,200 realistically remain rating and any other time I want to 419 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,800 dedicate to snuggling my puppy. I'm surprised you're here right 420 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,040 now. I kind of am too, especially 421 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,920 since I do have a wireless headset, so I could 422 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600 hypothetically be recording this while snuggling my puppy. 423 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,560 Yeah, that. Would be bad for the video. 424 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,880 So we're, we're gonna, we're gonna nip that on the bud. 425 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,360 But that said, season 3 is already in the talks because 426 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,200 they are asking everybody what dungeons they would like to see 427 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,640 return for season 3. So this is a little bit 428 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840 different. Usually this is a survey kind of 429 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,240 comes for season 4, the extra season where we go, oh, what 430 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,160 classic dungeons would you like to come back? 431 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,600 And then people vote for grid rail and I get angry at them. 432 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,640 But this time I, what did you say? 433 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,680 Like way back when they're all WS. 434 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,600 All we do is win, win, win. I feel like all these dungeons 435 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,520 are win, win, win. So you can have all of the 436 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,160 dungeons, including Operation Floodgate, which was introduced 437 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,440 this season, right? And suggest which of those 438 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,800 dungeons will be coming back for Season 3. 439 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Now, They didn't say how many of them will be coming back. 440 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,400 I would think, I would think that it's gonna be 4:00 to 5:00. 441 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,640 I don't think they're gonna have mostly classic dungeons coming 442 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,800 back. But the top votes of this poll 443 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,200 will be the ones that are going to be returning. 444 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,920 And then these votes are aggregated. 445 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,840 So if there is a very close near tie, the Wow development team is 446 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,200 gonna make the call on that. And that's most likely to be 447 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,920 based on like all the criteria they normally do. 448 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:03,240 Now, generally, what dungeons are you looking to have come 449 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,640 back from both Season 1 and Season 2? 450 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,320 Sean, you had you had some strong decisions here. 451 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,640 What's your top dungeon? So it's this is a tough, it's a 452 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,560 tough question. And I think the issue is the 453 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,760 community also doesn't understand the question that's 454 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,400 being asked. People are voting for dungeons. 455 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,720 It seems like people are voting for dungeons that they had an 456 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,560 easy time clearing or in which there was a good loot table 457 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,320 instead of voting for the dungeons that are the best 458 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:39,240 designed. So for me, my vote. 459 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,680 As far as boss fights go, the top two best dungeons from the 460 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:49,600 World Within pool are easily Operation Floodgate and Dark 461 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Flame Cleft. You cannot. 462 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,160 And I know Dark Flame Cleft caught a lot of heat at the 463 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,400 start of the season or pre season when people were 464 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,440 convinced that the Minecraft section was going to be doomed. 465 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 And it's not. Blizzard made it so that it 466 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,240 wasn't. It's still not. 467 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040 It's it's it's probably my favorite dungeon this season. 468 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:09,760 And the boss fights are so incredibly well designed that 469 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,760 they can even be completed if you don't fully understand the 470 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,440 mechanics of them. I watched a Demon Hunter friend 471 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,240 of mine complete a + 15 and he had no idea how the boss 472 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,440 mechanics worked on the candle boss or on the last month. 473 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,280 And I was like in the call watching explaining to him as it 474 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,000 was happening. Like no, you're going you want 475 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,680 to light as many candles as you can so that you have less of the 476 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,480 dot anyway. So those those those one of 477 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,120 those two should be people's picks because they're super well 478 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,320 designed, they're fun, and the the boss fights are good. 479 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,200 If you're looking for speed, then you want to maybe vote for 480 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,640 the Rookery. The Rookery is by far the 481 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,160 fastest dungeon to complete. Also very fun, the last boss 482 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,160 there can be difficult if DPS don't realize that they don't 483 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,600 have to stand at their spots for the pillar breaks and the 484 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,560 pillars aren't there and they can come in for healing from 485 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,000 your preservation of ochre because he can't reach you way 486 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,480 over there. Yeah, honestly, there is no you 487 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,280 did say man, there's no bad answer here except maybe City of 488 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,280 threads. Nobody wants that so. 489 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,760 It's a 2% right now, so you're right, nobody wants. 490 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,600 It yeah it's a rough one, but a lot of people are heavily voting 491 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,520 for Eric Cara and the Dawn Breaker, which were both super 492 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,000 well received in season 1 and it's because they were easily 493 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800 timed. They both had extremely 494 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,400 forgiving timers, but I would argue that Eric Harris is not a 495 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800 super great designed dungeon and that last boss is kind of a 496 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,480 nightmare. I. 497 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,240 Hate that one. That was that OK our Cara was 498 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,480 genuinely in season 1, the dungeon that made me stop doing 499 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,440 mythic plus and it was that last boss, boss specifically. 500 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,080 I was done after like one night of like an hour long pull and I 501 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,640 was like Nope, we're finished, cancelled, it's over. 502 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,200 Yeah, I get it multiple times, like multiple times. 503 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,880 We will be running 12/13 1212 and thirteens get to the last 504 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,760 boss with like 14 minutes left and still not time it. 505 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,560 It's it's wild, wild how it was our least consistent dungeon of 506 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,440 that season. And this is not the dungeon's 507 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,360 fault, but the like the mechanic with the the blood is bugged 508 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280 with it's specifically, first of all, it's horrible, but it's 509 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,080 also specifically bugged with Demon Hunter leaps where if you 510 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,960 leap to the other side of the blood, it like marks your body. 511 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,360 Like like the where, where the the thing goes is not where you 512 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,120 get stuck. So like I, I was spending so 513 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,200 much time trying to figure out where my blood was because I 514 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,760 jumped over it. But like, also, that's how the 515 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,080 Demon Hunter like unless I'm running by pressing W or both 516 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,320 mouse buttons for those of you who don't keyboard turn like 517 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,200 there's, there's literally no other way for me to get to where 518 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,520 I need to go in time. It was terrible. 519 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,760 That one was really, really stressful. 520 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,000 Yeah, and I I also think people might be voting for it because 521 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Sack Brood was such a strong trinket, but every time they 522 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,600 brought dungeons backs, they've they've tuned to the trinkets to 523 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,680 bring them in line. So if you're and also when you 524 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280 use sacred, you get this weird lump on your back. 525 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,080 I hated it so much. Anyway, I voted. 526 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,560 I voted for the Rookery because I did what I said people 527 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,920 shouldn't do and voted for the one that is fast and easy. 528 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,840 But flame. So do as I say, not as I do. 529 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,640 Dark Flame, Cleft, Operation Floodgate are both probably the 530 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,800 two best designed dungeons from The War Within prior to Second 531 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520 Flame is gorgeous. It's also a lot of fun. 532 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,040 I think. I think that that could be a 533 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,400 good winner. That's third right now. 534 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,440 Yeah. Anyway. 535 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,920 I voted for cinder brew because I think it's it's cute. 536 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,960 I hate cinder brew meter E because I'm stuck in neck hell 537 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,400 or I was I I got the neck last two nights ago. 538 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,400 I got the neck, but it was like 30 two runs of cinder brew to 539 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,880 get that neck, but it is a it is AII get it If I had only had to 540 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,120 run it when I got the key. It's a fun dungeon. 541 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,680 It's pretty. It reminds me a lot of temple 542 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960 the jade serpent because you can go either direction. 543 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,000 Obviously you're going towards IPA first because you need the 544 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,680 lust for him, but it's a lot of fun and it has some really fun 545 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,680 boss fights as well. I really like bank Busby in 546 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,120 there and I really also really like Goldie bear and bottom. 547 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,960 Both good fights. Although I will say I this is an 548 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,600 issue that I have every time World of Warcraft does anything 549 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,840 involving brewing. Although I have less of an issue 550 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,200 with the meadery than I do when they talk about beer, where I 551 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,960 don't think they, first of all, I don't think they understand 552 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,560 how brewing works. And second of all, I think they 553 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,560 think that Mead is a beer. And it's not. 554 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,680 It's a with anything, it's a wine, which just bothers me. 555 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360 Like I, I just like, especially the I the IPA. 556 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,920 I'm like, I get the joke, I get the fun, but it's why? 557 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,960 But it wouldn't it wouldn't be an IPA. 558 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,840 Why? Why would there be an IPA and a 559 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,600 meadery? An IPA is a hoppy beer and 560 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,720 meadery like Mead is a honey wine. 561 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Like what are we doing here? What is going on? 562 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920 It's. An experimental element that 563 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200 they made. They were experimenting, Lex. 564 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,560 But I and I, I get that. I get that. 565 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,960 And I, I just, who would put like is, are they saying that 566 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:33,040 they put hops in honey wine? Because that sounds terrible 567 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,440 like, which I guess is why they have a big evil. 568 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,960 I mean like I wouldn't say hops, he more floats. 569 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,160 OK, but like but but OK. But all of this is better than 570 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,080 and I swear I'm going to let Manny speak in a minute, but I 571 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,560 just, I just need to get this off my chest. 572 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Blizzard thinks that you brew beer within the course of one 573 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,360 day. Like this bothered me so much 574 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,000 when I was reading the the not war crimes. 575 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,720 The other the the war crimes isn't even Pandaria. 576 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,960 No, it is anyway the, the the Pandaria story, the Volgen 577 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,000 story. And like very clearly the author 578 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,880 was under the impression that you could like put something 579 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,560 like a flavoring in a beer and that afternoon or within a few 580 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,800 hours, sometimes you could taste how it affect did the brew. 581 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,000 And I just like brewing is like at least a month long process. 582 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,640 Like, what are we? It is certainly even even if 583 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,880 we're talking to faster beers, it is not with like you will not 584 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,640 know what that tastes like by the end of the goddamn day. 585 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,600 So I'm chronically annoyed by that. 586 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,760 But it's OK. Minnie, what are you voting for? 587 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,440 I haven't made my decision yet. I think that like, I wanna see 588 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,800 something come back from Season 1 because I'd like to see the 589 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,640 difference between Season 1 and Season 2. 590 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,040 Like one thing I wanna point out to everybody is that anything 591 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,400 coming back from Season 1 is gonna be a lot different. 592 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,760 There's a completely different ethos that's involved with like 593 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,720 the way trash is done, how many interrupts you need to pull, and 594 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800 that's going to change the the amount of packs that you pull 595 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640 together and all and all of that. 596 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,160 The fact that the affixes and where they're introduced has 597 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,080 changed his stuff. I'd love to get like a direct 598 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,080 comparison of some of these dungeons, how I experienced them 599 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,320 in Season 1 versus how they look like with this, with this new 600 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,200 change in direction of how affixes interact with dungeon 601 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,400 mechanics. So yeah, like I think that 602 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,280 Floodgate has some magnificently designed bosses and it's really 603 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:48,880 fun, but I would really like to see some Season 1 things come 604 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,240 back and see if they're like, OK, well, you know what? 605 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,520 Like you can pull two of the mini bosses together when 606 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,080 you're, when you are doing something like the dawn breaker 607 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:08,600 or you're not going to be like utterly overwhelmed with like 608 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,920 interrupts when you're going through the storm vault. 609 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,800 Cause the storm vault had just packs with multiple casters in 610 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,080 every single pack. And so like, how would they 611 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,720 change that? Like, is it that those effects 612 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640 aren't going to be as painful and as punishing or they just 613 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,160 going to like be less frequent? Like I just, I want to see that 614 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,840 as sort of a thought experiment sort of thing. 615 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,400 And all these dungeons are going to come back later. 616 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,680 So whatever I I'm going to, I'm going to give it a good look 617 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,080 through and see and see what it is. 618 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,680 But yeah, let us know what you guys think. 619 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,600 Obviously, bit dot LY slash fast discord like to know what our 620 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,640 listeners think should be the top choices, not necessarily the 621 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,360 entirety of the World of Warcraft population. 622 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Now going from that over to our next story guys, they've done it 623 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,360 again. As much as gear score changed 624 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,960 the game as much as everybody in their IO score caused caused 625 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:24,199 pugging to be a bit more toxic, a bit less social, Wowhead and 626 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,040 their subsidiary Arcon have decided to create a new add on. 627 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,920 You guys want to talk about this? 628 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,880 Wait. Wowhead owns Arcon you. 629 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,040 Didn't know that I. Had no idea. 630 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,760 Wait, is it Wowhead or is it Warcraft logs? 631 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,159 Warcraft logs. Warcraft logs is ARCON. 632 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,960 Is there a sort of all of them are working together? 633 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,880 I'm not sure. Well, it's definitely Warcraft 634 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,639 logs and Arcon, yeah. Arcon is Warcraft logs. 635 00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:01,160 That's the same company. I didn't know Wowhead was 636 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,200 involved. I'm going to double check, but 637 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,120 tell us about this add on, OK? Yeah, so it's it takes your 638 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,240 parses from heroic and mythic and shows it on a tool tip in 639 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:18,760 game for use when putting together pugs for the rates they 640 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,960 are taking Now obviously hear that immediately and everybody 641 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,880 knee jerk reaction is Oh my God this is terrible for the game. 642 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,280 Why would you do this? You're going to ruin pug life. 643 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:36,840 The sky is falling. I have a slightly less doomer 644 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,120 take on it than that because this information is already out 645 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,160 there. It already exists. 646 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,960 Anybody who cared about it when building their PUD groups could 647 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,920 already look it up and see it. They are making steps so to try 648 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,800 to try and balance that perception. 649 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:58,880 So it is your average par score among all of your kills in 650 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,480 heroic and mythic, but it's only after you've hit certain 651 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,360 thresholds. You have to have 20 heroic boss 652 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,960 kills before it shows any scores to allow you to build up sort of 653 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,640 a base so you're not being judged off of 1 bad prog parse. 654 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,480 And 20 boss clears is just about 3 clears of the Raiders. 8 655 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,160 bosses in the raid. So 8 * 3 is what, 18 maths hard? 656 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,880 Nope, 24. So yeah, just about 3 clears of 657 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,440 the raid and two and a half clears. 658 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,120 And for Mythic, because mythic kills are a lot harder to come 659 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,600 by and not ever experience it, it's only 5 kills. 660 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,840 So you start to see parses at 5 kills. 661 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,200 If you've killed the boss on mythic but you haven't gotten 5 662 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,640 kills, I'll show you a heroic parse and say it's heroic. 663 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,520 You can opt out of this. However, opting out means you 664 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,880 hide your parses on Warcraft logs. 665 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,480 And if we're being honest, if somebody's opted out, it's going 666 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,080 to be the same as if your score was low. 667 00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:00,160 So opting out won't really increase your chances of getting 668 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560 into a group of anybody who was using this to determine their 669 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,120 group anyway. But they they are. 670 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,840 And it also hides your purses on Warcraft logs so you're the only 671 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,560 one who sees them. They are aware that people want 672 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,840 to be able to opt out of the add on but still be available on 673 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,440 Warcraft logs. I believe they said they were 674 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,000 working on that. I know people are really upset 675 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,360 about this. I don't pug a ton. 676 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080 I do pug a little bit of the raid on alts. 677 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,360 I don't personally think this is going to have the impact that 678 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,320 Twitter or the overarching Warcraft community thinks it's 679 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,880 going to have. I think anybody who truly cared 680 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,640 that much about parses when building pug groups for heroic 681 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:54,320 was already looking them up or using another metric to to judge 682 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,640 you on, and I just don't think it's going to have the impact 683 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,720 that people think it is. It you. 684 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,920 It doesn't even exist for normal pugs. 685 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,840 So like it doesn't show normal prices at all. 686 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,720 So you shouldn't have any issue if you're like a more casual 687 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:11,760 player. I don't know. 688 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,680 I I know people are upset, so go ahead Lex. 689 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,440 Yeah, so I was going to say, I guess the one thing that I would 690 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,680 push really question. So I, I, we don't really pug at 691 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360 all. I I, I would mean I'm scared of 692 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,080 doing random mythic classes. I'm certainly not going to put 693 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,360 myself at the mercy of a a random pugged raid. 694 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,400 And my team as a general rule, does not mess with pugging just 695 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,680 because there, there are exceptions. 696 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,160 But like usually if we're at a point where we need to pug, we 697 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,960 just don't because we just, we, we are very protective of the 698 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040 community and the vibes and the energy we have. 699 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,200 And we would hate for that to feel like to, to have somebody 700 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,360 invited in who ruins that for a night. 701 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,240 So this doesn't really affect me. 702 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,000 The one I guess thing that I would just say though, is, yeah, 703 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,800 you can go look at logs. You can search people for logs. 704 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:09,720 But I guess it, for me, it's like I question that people do. 705 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,160 And I I understand like, yeah, like all this information is 706 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,120 publicly available, but surely there's a difference. 707 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,040 Sorry, not that that felt when I the minute that started coming 708 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160 out of my mouth, I was like, this feels aggressive for 709 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160 something that I don't actually fight about, that I don't know 710 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,040 anything about. I guess I feel like I would 711 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,400 never in my life when I was making pug groups for M plus 712 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,120 before, I would never have gone to radar IO and search people's 713 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,400 names while I have like 50 different applicants coming in 714 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,200 every second, right? But if they're going to give me 715 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640 a score number, I don't really have a ton else to go on. 716 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,400 It's like I'm, you know, it's right there in my face, right? 717 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,160 And so I guess I, my thinking is like, yeah, but like who 718 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,400 actually does go look at Warcraft logs? 719 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,760 And on the other hand, if it's right there on your face, like, 720 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,960 are you going to ignore their persons and be like, no, I'm 721 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,720 going to go with this other person who I also have zero 722 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,760 additional information about but the number. 723 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,880 And and maybe that's OK, right? Maybe good people should get 724 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,360 into groups more. Maybe like that's not inherently 725 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:10,240 unfair. I didn't change things, right? 726 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,720 I don't. Yeah, I I see, I see your point. 727 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,320 It is I I definitely understand that. 728 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,320 Like, I could go. This will this will make people 729 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,520 who wouldn't take the effort to go look up a score be able to 730 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,360 go, oh, well, I'm going to take this person instead of that 731 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,920 person, even though they've both killed the same number of 732 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,840 bosses. This person has a better score 733 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,200 and they're better at it. Could you make the argument that 734 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,160 it will then make pug groups naturally form that are among 735 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,920 equal skill level instead of having a vast skill? 736 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,040 Maybe it'll make it. Here we go, here's a here's a 737 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,240 hope PM take that I'm sure will go really well. 738 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,920 Maybe this will make pug groups less toxic because instead of 739 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,960 having extremely skilled players mixed with less skilled players, 740 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,840 and then those players getting Madden, the less skilled players 741 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,920 make mistakes. The extremely skilled players 742 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,040 will only play with other extremely skilled players, and 743 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,200 the players that fall the next tier down will all group 744 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,480 together because they'll be able to see their gear scores and so 745 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,800 instead of being toxic with each other, they'll be understanding 746 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,320 because they're all at the same level. 747 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,160 We'll actually say to to add to that hope. 748 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,960 Maybe I shouldn't admit this, but when I do pug mythic plus I 749 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,640 usually will not take people with top scores because they 750 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,760 scare me and I don't want them to get mad at me. 751 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,560 Oh my God, I'm right. Let's just confirm I'm right, 752 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,000 Andy. What do you think? 753 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,160 Do you think this will make the pug scene less toxic? 754 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,560 No. What? 755 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120 Like Lex is right, like it's in front of you. 756 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,600 So you'll go with the person with the highest score. 757 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:33,760 That will change people's behaviors. 758 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,680 This is raid, So what will people do? 759 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,880 They'll pad their scores to go for to go for the highest score 760 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,360 instead of doing mechanics. Now you'll get a bunch of people 761 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,080 who are concerned about doing the damage instead of mechanic. 762 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,120 Raids these days require people do to do mechanics. 763 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,840 There's going to be this entire thing of like come on guys, give 764 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,520 me the Pi as bad as it was before when like we were in farm 765 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,000 mode and it's like, oh man, give me all the PIS. 766 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,440 Let's do this. I'm hoping because it is 767 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,520 Warcraft logs that if you get too many PIS, it just won't show 768 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,360 up on the add on that they will include that that filter into 769 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,360 this because they already have a thing where you can go. 770 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,200 Hey, I don't need this thing with the PIS on this many people 771 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,200 giving me the buffs from this many drag theares, whatever, 772 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,720 right? I happen to be the guy who never 773 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:26,440 got picked to go on the the balls. 774 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:31,440 And so I just got to do A0A 0E. I did a bunch of superfluous 775 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,440 cleave damage on X&Y fight. So I've got the parse, but like 776 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,360 my team didn't care. So now this allows me to pug. 777 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,120 Why are you even in pugs if your team's already doing this, 778 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,920 Claire? I don't know, but like there's 779 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,000 just parses were already susceptible to abuse. 780 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,520 Making it so that your invitation now now gets 781 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,880 reflected by your parse and more people are going to be looking 782 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,200 at your parse is just inviting the behavior that I just don't 783 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,360 want and I do think. Will it incentivize people to 784 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,640 learn the fights and play better to get better scores? 785 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,000 I'm getting better. Hold on. 786 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,400 I just, I need to be super clear for both my Co hosts and 787 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,280 everybody who's listening right now screaming at their their 788 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,760 stereos. I obviously know what's going to 789 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,680 happen when this add on comes out, but we can't all just sit 790 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,040 here and be like this add on's garbage. 791 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,200 Maybe it'll be OK. Let's be today. 792 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:38,360 But everybody knows that you can pad damage in so many fights in 793 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,640 this raid. They do actually negate a lot of 794 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,800 the ad damage. It doesn't count for purses. 795 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,080 Sure, right. Like that, that helps if I am a 796 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:53,480 funnel if I'm a funnel character does naturally it like it helps 797 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,720 to offset some of it right? If I decide to tunnel on the 798 00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:02,280 boss so I can get 100% up time and not turn and kill the kill 799 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,000 the ads in one in one armed bandit. 800 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,880 Holy crap, I I need those parses to be like immediately removed. 801 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,440 If you are not doing like 1520% of your damage on those ads, 802 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,880 just your parse is great immediately. 803 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,160 And like, do I want to put that on Warcraft logs that you need 804 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,240 to police your logs because now you're affecting people's 805 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:29,600 ability to even play the game. Their choice to make it right, 806 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,000 the but like, I just know bad behavior is going to rule the 807 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,480 day because people aren't going to look deeper in the logs. 808 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,920 And I think that the people who did look deep in the logs, that 809 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,920 took the time to go to the logs and say, oh, this is a problem. 810 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,200 Let me not look at their parts, but actually go and see, hey, 811 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,840 did they actually do this right? That takes away from the people 812 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,200 who were going just to Warcraft logs, right? 813 00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:59,360 And now there's a bigger portion who will lazily look at the 814 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,160 orange parse and be like, yeah, even though that orange parse 815 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,760 might be a complete red herring. So I have a question that I'm 816 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:15,000 trying to answer as we speak because as much as I I totally 817 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,360 agree with everything you're saying, Manny and I like, I 818 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,760 can't make a good argument for why this shouldn't exist, but I 819 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,360 think that it shouldn't, right? I think that I think that bad 820 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,920 players should be allowed to have fun. 821 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,520 And that's not a good enough reason for us not to have ways 822 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,200 to know if players are bad. But it's for me, in my heart and 823 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,960 soul it is. But I kind of have I'm I'm 824 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:42,000 curious how much hugging raid actually happens, right? 825 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,640 So I just want to know, Oh my God, my computer needs to load 826 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:52,120 faster because I want to know at 8:17 PM EST on a Tuesday how 827 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,400 many heroic pug groups there are right now. 828 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,960 And maybe it'll be a lot, and I'll be about to. 829 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,280 Look, depends on the season, depends on like where you are in 830 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,840 the season, depends on the day, right? 831 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520 But like, yeah, it could be a lot earlier. 832 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:14,040 And then of course trail off. Like it depends on on a lot of 833 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,840 things there. But like also I could see a 834 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,800 fight where it's like I go in there and I die immediately. 835 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,840 And now Lex is stressed out of her and out of her mind. 836 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,720 She's normally with with like people who are competent 837 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:34,440 healers, right? And because she's down a healer 838 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,080 from like the get go because I just ran myself into the 839 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,360 garbage. Her log is like huge, right, 840 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,600 Because she's doing way more healing or some idiot is like 841 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,720 running into like every everything and you're keeping me 842 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:50,280 alive. And so like, hey, your your law 843 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,560 gets utterly inflated. But that devalues all the other 844 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,800 logs from teams that work together. 845 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,360 And so the the damage wasn't that much like that also would 846 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,680 affects logs if you are burning through the boss super fast and 847 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,400 nobody takes any damage or you have a longer fight and people 848 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,280 take a lot of damage, that also effects healer logs, not even 849 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,040 including DPS logs. Oh. 850 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,640 I, I'm done heel leading and I will say until the day I die, 851 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,480 the healer parses are not. So I, I was thinking about this 852 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,360 only as ADPS parse, right? I think DPS parses, there's a 853 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,160 lot of So first of all, I'm going to quickly interrupt 854 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,680 myself and say there, there were a lot of pugs. 855 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,920 So I was completely, I was a liar. 856 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,680 A ton of people are pugging and it's absolutely going to have an 857 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,840 effect on the the game as well. So you make an add on if there 858 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,240 was no word audience for it so it makes sense. 859 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,520 True, Absolutely. Yeah, in retrospect I'm being 860 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,240 silly DPS person. As somebody who's played healer 861 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,200 and DPS and who was raid LED primarily healing but like to 862 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:50,720 some degree DPS ING, I DPS parts are are fairly meaningful right? 863 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:54,240 Because the thing about DPS is that you can in like from when 864 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,720 the start the fight starts to when the fight ends, you can 865 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,160 engage in your action. And if everyone is like burning 866 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,680 that like against the the boss, it will simply end sooner, 867 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,640 right? There's no cap to the amount of 868 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,480 damage you can do other than the boss dying. 869 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,400 So DPS parts I think are very meaningful. 870 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:18,960 Healing parses I will always say are incredibly complicated 871 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,200 because there is a hard cap to the amount of HP like HPS that 872 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,040 can go out. And that hard cap is your team's 873 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,600 damage. Just like you're saying Manny 874 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,240 right? So a team that takes a lot of 875 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:36,320 damage does like like healers can literally put out more heals 876 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,840 per second. If your team, if nobody is is 877 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,560 getting in a single mechanic in your in in in a boss fight, your 878 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,440 healers parses inherently will be lower, right? 879 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,840 Because, but like they, they, they simply cannot put out as 880 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,720 many heels per second. There's not there's nothing else 881 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:55,160 to heal. They healed it all. 882 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,720 They're up to 100. We had a like one reason that I 883 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,440 started learning how to do some DPS on my priest is because on 884 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,200 my team we have a few like absolute rock star healers. 885 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,200 And to be fair, first of all, if anyone on my team is listening, 886 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,360 you're old rock stars. I love you all. 887 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,920 I'm so proud of you all. You're incredible and I love 888 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,720 you. But we had some people who were 889 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,160 burning right, like hitting like parses in the 90s frequently. 890 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,760 And what that meant is that my little, you know, mid level 891 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,720 healer, but was getting grey parses, not because my skill 892 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:28,640 significantly dropped, but because the amount of the damage 893 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,560 that existed in the raid was going down, right. 894 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,120 The really incredible healers meant that I literally did not 895 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,960 have heals to heal. They, they, they were gone. 896 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,200 They were, the damage is 0. It's OK. 897 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,360 Like I, I had to learn to do something else. 898 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,920 So yes, I think with in, in, in terms of DPSI think I, I do hear 899 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,360 you. I think that like the risk, 900 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,080 especially of people who primarily pug just refusing to 901 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,280 do mechanics because they want to maximize their DPSI think 902 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,440 that's a a big danger. But I do actually really agree. 903 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,560 I think the people who don't understand healing and don't 904 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,000 understand healing parses or just the fact that you have a 905 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,160 limited amount of information and now you have a number and 906 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,600 it's hard not to follow the number. 907 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,000 Even if you tell yourself that you're too, like you understand 908 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,200 the nuance behind the number. I think that that would be 909 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,600 really damaging to healing pugs. Absolutely. 910 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,320 And the problem is that not everybody who is looking at that 911 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,840 add on with that number is going to understand many of these 912 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,480 little intricacies. And I think that the people who 913 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,520 had taken the time to go, I'm gonna go to their logs, there is 914 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,440 a small subsection of players who would do that. 915 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:41,480 And of those players, there was a meaningful subsection of that 916 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,640 subsection that would actually take the time and look at your 917 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,640 parts and be like, this guy better not be fluffing the logs 918 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,000 or blah, blah, blah. And would actually know that 919 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,840 because if you're on Warcraft logs at that level, I think 920 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:59,840 you're there is a better chance that you are going to be looking 921 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,200 at these filtered information than somebody who's grabbing it 922 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,280 from an add on. They're not going to then take 923 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,880 the time to look for a filtered information because I don't 924 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,680 believe this add on even provides that option. 925 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,400 And if it doesn't, then you're already going to logs and and 926 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,720 therefore, what is this serving a newer audience that may not 927 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:21,560 use it in the proper way? But I do want to say before we 928 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:29,800 go any further, Arcon, they are not part of Wowhead. 929 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,360 But what what I'm remembering is that they used to be, you know, 930 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,640 Warcraft logs, FF logs, ESO logs, they all went under the 931 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,080 same name and that's when they and they merged together under 932 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,960 the Archon name. So the the way the add on is 933 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,800 functioning now, if you're a Warcraft Logs Patreon 934 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,760 subscriber, you are a premium member. 935 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,280 It might not be Patreon anymore. You you get to see the full 936 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,880 breakdown. Like you see the the Vexy score, 937 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,400 you see the Carlton O'Connor score for each player, but if 938 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,240 you're not a subscriber, you just see their average score for 939 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:07,880 the raid. So you don't get the individual 940 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,160 boss breakdown. I do have a question though. 941 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,400 This is for the listeners. I want you guys to and you too 942 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,920 as well, although I think I know what you guys are going to say. 943 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,160 But for the listeners, I want you to be really, truly honest 944 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,280 with yourself. If you are putting together a 945 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,720 pug with the intent of clearing the raid, are you not just a 946 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:31,840 little bit grateful that now you have some measure of the skill 947 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,760 of the people you're inviting instead of the complete random 948 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:40,760 chance from before? Yeah, I think that the one thing 949 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,880 that I do want to say is I don't have an issue with Arcon for 950 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,760 this. I think there was never a world 951 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,280 where this wasn't going to come out like eventually there was 952 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,920 going to be a way to look at and like I don't like it. 953 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,320 But again, most of the reason that I don't like this and I 954 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,960 don't like IO score and I don't like like it's just because I 955 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,640 think that bad people should be able to play the game too. 956 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,160 And that's not a good argument. And I under like as a as a raid 957 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,840 leader, obviously I would like good people when I'm pugging. 958 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,640 I just as a it's a bad, I am protective of bad players. 959 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,240 And that's a terrible argument to not have a feature. 960 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,200 And I get that, especially in a in a MMO. 961 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,400 So like objectively that is not a feasible argument to keep 962 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,840 things like this from coming along. 963 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,280 But yeah, yeah, it's like, I can argue about how it's harmful to 964 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:33,160 the community as a whole, but you, yeah, people are going to 965 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,160 want information when they're making pugs. 966 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,920 And especially, you know, I would also love if we could have 967 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,320 a nice score, although I immediately understand why that 968 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,760 would be complicated. But alas, they don't. 969 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,760 We haven't devolved into social. Would we call it? 970 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,040 Would we call it Nico or Kindo? I don't. 971 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,160 I know. What's your Kindo score, Lex? 972 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,800 You're a 99, by the way, and Kindo Manny's a solid. 973 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,800 Manny's a solid 96 1/2. No, Manny, he's so much nicer 974 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,280 than. Me Manny is giving me a look 975 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,600 right now every time. I suggest that this add on might 976 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:15,360 be OK I think. They're trying social scores 977 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,920 over in China. I don't think that's going too 978 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,720 well. Going to be clear, not not a 979 00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:23,040 fan, not I I don't I I understand why a kind score 980 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,360 would actually be really problematic and would probably 981 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,360 lead to more toxicity. Oh no, I don't. 982 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,520 I think in the video game it works out wonderful. 983 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,400 I think that you maintain a certain average and you for your 984 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,520 kind score and that allows you a bunch of extra tenders and 985 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,320 suddenly everybody's sucking my ass. 986 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:48,880 Anyways, we will have to push through this raid and I'm glad 987 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,080 that. This, yeah. 988 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,840 Manny, what's the question? Again, if if if you're a raid 989 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:59,760 lead pugging people, are you not a little grateful that this 990 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,080 exists? So I'm part of the dungeon Dojo. 991 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,520 I actively look for people who want to learn, not people who 992 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,600 are already having learned the dungeon or the raid. 993 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,680 Like I would rather go do a mythic 0 and struggle through 994 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,240 with somebody so that they learn it, then get caked walked 995 00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:24,680 through a 12 or get carried through a 15. 996 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,600 I've never done a 15. I am just starting to time 10s. 997 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:34,440 I don't care to like run and get like 10 done in like 18 minutes 998 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,720 flat and get my portal and be like, yeah, like I know people 999 00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:42,080 want the easiest path forward. That's why this this exists. 1000 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:47,440 It's like, oh, now I don't have to to type a, a name into 1001 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,040 Warcraft logs. It can just be thrown right in 1002 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,160 front of me. But I know what the cost of that 1003 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,520 is. I know what raid Finder did in 1004 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,360 terms of community. I know what LFG did in terms of 1005 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,640 community. I understand that there's a very 1006 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,360 real cost for this, even if the convenience factor makes the 1007 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,920 people say like, yeah, I'll take the the offshoot used to be that 1008 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,920 like I would have terrible dungeons back in the Barrens 1009 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,440 coming from the crossroads, getting every everybody together 1010 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,080 so we could, we could walk uphill both ways to go get 1011 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,480 through that dungeon, right. But I love that. 1012 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,160 I love to like finding friends and stuff and and like one 1013 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,960 person going to me and be like, dude, why are you wearing that? 1014 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,080 I'm like, because it matches. It's like it's all graze. 1015 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,680 The stats suck. Oh, right. 1016 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,360 I like I love that introduction. I loved when Warcraft was more 1017 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,640 of a social game. And I get that people want to 1018 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,200 find a way to not even have to like, acknowledge the existence 1019 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,080 of people and look at a number, but it's going to suffer. 1020 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,520 Right. And like, yeah, maybe you'll get 1021 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,720 the loot that much faster because you got EP Mcsween up on 1022 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:04,400 your raid. I've done a dungeon with him, 1023 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,920 he's actually pretty good at mechanics. 1024 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,040 He's a blowhard, we don't need him. 1025 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,280 But you lose something in it, right? 1026 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,880 That's it. That's my answer to it. 1027 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,000 OK, that's a good answer. I like that. 1028 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:22,720 But last thing I want to talk about is, yeah, we are four 1029 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:34,720 weeks in, I completed my rank 20 of Undermine Rep, but we are now 1030 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,000 just getting to level. I think it's six in the raid 1031 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,720 cash. I'm sure some people have been 1032 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,440 doing full Claire's and may have gone further than me. 1033 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,520 Did I full Claire weak one? I can't recall. 1034 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:54,000 Anyways, yeah, there's a we are now one week away from getting 1035 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,400 6% damage amp, but this week we got what I think is the best 1036 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,640 thing ever, which is the cartel jumper cables. 1037 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,400 Have you guys jumped into the raid and used this? 1038 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,280 I haven't used it yet, but we did talk about it last night as 1039 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,280 we death skipped past all of the ridiculous amounts of trash to 1040 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,920 one armed bandit. But we had a that. 1041 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,360 Skip is glorious. Yeah, it's insane. 1042 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,200 I there's so much trash in this raid. 1043 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,360 It is. I'm I'm enjoying the trash, 1044 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,320 though. I like other than Oh my God, the 1045 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,280 ones that like run me over the road. 1046 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,920 I just other than them. I'm OK with it because we hunt 1047 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,680 down like the rares because you get extra Rep from them. 1048 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,640 Yeah, the boes of being kind of nice and lucrative. 1049 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,160 So I'm not tired of the trash. Do you feel like the season has 1050 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,880 just like ended so quickly? Well, no, we we. 1051 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,720 For me, it ends when we get CE. So it hasn't we're we're Sean 1052 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,960 and. Mandy and I have AOT 3 already. 1053 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,040 I'm Sean and Mandy, and I feel like we've reached the end of 1054 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,080 the season already. I do feel like I do feel like 1055 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,360 the season is moving at a faster pace than last season, but it's 1056 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,520 because they made Mythic Plus so easy and that's not a complaint. 1057 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,400 Faster if you're listening. I love it. 1058 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,760 But the plus should be easy. I want to log in. 1059 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,560 I'm the guy man to talk to, but I want to log in. 1060 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,600 I want to do my a 10s. I wanted to take 18 minutes and 1061 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,960 then I want to go bow my dad snuggle. 1062 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,200 Your puppy. Yeah, so I can be. 1063 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,400 I'm going to go sluggle my puppy. 1064 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,000 It does feel like the season has gone by fast. 1065 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,360 I feel. I actually felt this a lot last 1066 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:38,880 season 2 and I felt that every season since Sepulchre and maybe 1067 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,880 it's just because I'm getting older and that's how time works, 1068 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,040 but I feel. Like been a shift in 1069 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,600 dragonflight so sepulchre sounds like the right time that it. 1070 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,920 Happened yeah it feels like every season is getting just 1071 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:55,320 shorter and shorter like we're going to have 11 point 1.5 in 26 1072 00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:00,320 days so that's crazy to me did. They do the official 1073 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,040 announcement. They didn't, but it's everybody 1074 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,760 on the planet. Everybody's I know, everybody's 1075 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,160 been guessing at it. Yeah, I don't it's like the 1076 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,800 least the worst kept secret. Once Tower Lee or Max says it, 1077 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,040 you can lock it in because for some reason Blizzard just keeps 1078 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,040 telling them stuff. Then they just keep telling us. 1079 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,800 Yeah, so it's it does feel like it's going fast. 1080 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,040 Now what? You have to start pulling the 1081 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,920 trash in that rate. Oh my God, there's a lot of 1082 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,520 trash in that rate. I am also I'm glad that you're 1083 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,520 having fun with it, Manny. We at I might have complained 1084 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,560 about this on this podcast already. 1085 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,920 I'm trying to remember why I remember talking about this 1086 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,320 verbally. But we at Timbermod Tavern are 1087 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,400 traumatized by the trash because we always mostly me, but we do 1088 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,360 have a tendency to like have death pulls. 1089 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,200 We're like, we're like we have to call people back to escort 1090 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,240 the fools, namely me, nobody else. 1091 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,920 Everyone else is sorry, the fool. 1092 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,920 The one fool is me. Nobody else has ever had a had a 1093 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,360 trash pull. Don't worry, don't think about 1094 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,880 it. But we have like like escort 1095 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,960 people to the next boss because we can't get through without 1096 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,600 pulling trash. So I'm traumatized by this. 1097 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,760 This tears trash. We've had that too, especially 1098 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,400 once you're you're done with bunk junker and it's like, oh 1099 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,200 wait, we can't go directly to the next boss. 1100 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,000 You have to go through six month junker. 1101 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,160 Cuz we came in one way and then out the other. 1102 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,840 Which meant that like if you try and make a direct bull, you're 1103 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,120 gonna bring everybody to us. And yeah, there was like a 1104 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,080 couple of times where it's like, OK, I'm gonna die in front of 1105 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,880 the boss so that you guys don't get into combat and then you can 1106 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,400 res me. So it's not just you. 1107 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,000 You're not the only fool. I'm a fool too, OK? 1108 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,880 I can't figure out raid maps. I don't know what's wrong with 1109 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,120 my brain that makes it so I can never get my bearings in a raid. 1110 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,520 But the number of times this has been happening since the 1111 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,440 Denathrius raid where I just like people like everyone else 1112 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,080 is going and it's a very normal direction and there should be no 1113 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,880 way for me to get lost. And I'm over in like God damn 1114 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,480 Narnia trying to figure out how to get back into World of 1115 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,440 Warcraft. Like I cannot handle it. 1116 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,640 I mean Narnia was the 5th covenant so I get it. 1117 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:16,840 I I genuinely think that the raids because you can go from 1118 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,120 like different boss to different boss. 1119 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,680 It's not a straight line like it used to be. 1120 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,200 Nobody got lost in like Amir Dressil. 1121 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,120 It was like, go right, go left, go straight, we're good. 1122 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:32,920 This is a full on city map that they have converted into a raid. 1123 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,720 And yes, you can go down the wrong St., end up down the wrong 1124 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:43,600 alley, and then suddenly it's like, give me your wings, Demon 1125 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,560 Hunter, and you're gonna have to start from the get go again. 1126 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,680 Listen, just give me Bo ES for it, give me a BOE chance for it, 1127 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,560 make it so that I get to say in my Guild child like ha ha. 1128 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,960 Sorry guys, I just want us to get a chance for more Bo ES. 1129 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,360 Like you can that's what they're the mini bosses are some. 1130 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,160 People are definitely the mini bosses do it, but I want the 1131 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,440 regular trash to do it so I don't feel like a freaking idiot 1132 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,400 when I pull the regular trash. Can regular trash drop it? 1133 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,280 I think it's no, it's just the yeah, just the mini bosses. 1134 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:16,520 OK, Yeah, sorry, sorry, Lex. I will say though, earlier we 1135 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,120 did get that silver card, so when you're going back to the 1136 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,080 Glaggio, you can just use that and teleport right back. 1137 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,680 That might be a good way. We use that a lot. 1138 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,160 OK, my team only started using it this week. 1139 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,400 A silver card from Rick Reverb. So then I can go to six bunk 1140 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,240 junker with less distance and then I just kill myself after 1141 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:41,080 Sprocket monger and I think because I have to do the one 1142 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,520 abandoned trash. So you, you've been, you've been 1143 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,280 maxed, it is what you're saying. Yeah. 1144 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,880 And then we. Just like I don't even want to 1145 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,920 walk because you're not going to get on the fast mount too, 1146 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:51,360 right? You're on. 1147 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,360 Slow down. No, yeah, I don't use the car. 1148 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,480 I don't hate the car anymore. I don't remember if I gave that 1149 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:56,880 update. I did shipping and handling and 1150 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,640 made me not hate the car. And I actually kind of enjoy 1151 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,400 shipping and handling when it gives me a little arrow and says 1152 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,560 hey, go here and do a thing. But I don't use it on side of 1153 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,120 that. I'm really, in all honesty, I'm 1154 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,160 only in the Undermine to go from the teleporter to the raid. 1155 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,640 And then I heard back, that's it. 1156 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,680 Sometimes I go and do the delve that's there. 1157 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,760 I don't do I, I do nothing else in Undermine but. 1158 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:27,640 But yeah, I, I am, I am of the opinion that the season's gone 1159 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,800 by incredibly fast, so I am looking forward to 11 point 1.5. 1160 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,440 So let's see what happens. We're going to get that pretty 1161 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,120 soon and we should try and talk about that next episode, 1162 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,080 assuming there's no big news. But until next time guys, may 1163 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,160 all your hits be crits.