1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,240 Hi fast friends, this is a special second episode of For 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,760 Azeroth where I get to sit down with Soul So Breezy and talk 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,720 about professions and the start of the war within. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,239 There is a full regular episode that is also out today so make 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,200 sure you check that out as well. Enjoy. 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,560 For calendar to. The burning region for Gilnaeus 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,560 that has not died for the Lich King. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,119 The Sindori. For the alliance. 9 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:40,440 For the horn for Azeroth. Hello and welcome to a very 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,840 special episode of For Azeroth. I am one of the hosts, the true 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,680 villain Manny, and I am joined by the ever prolific soul Soul 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,680 Breezy, who I'm sure hates that I said prolific. 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,640 How are you today? I'm doing well. 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,040 I just came off of a plane through the war within intro 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,360 stuff where we, well, I'm not going to spoil anything where we 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,400 do some stuff and then we end up at the at the starts of Kas 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,000 Algarve, you know, that experience. 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,560 And so I'm still kind of almost emotionally rattled. 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,160 I know we're not going to be talking about that, but yeah, 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,680 that's the kind of energy that I'm coming in, coming in with 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,440 this semi depressed energy. But I'm still very excited to be 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,680 here. So yeah. 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,760 I'm, I'm really glad to have you on. 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,640 Honestly, the recent network that I'm coming to you is 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,800 because we are just on the doorstep of the war within. 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,480 Like you said, you've been testing the beta with this new 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,200 intro stuff, but before that you've been doing a lot of 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,360 videos on professions. And so you do such a great job 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,920 of making the game so accessible and making it something that 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,560 people can digest. And so I think you're like the 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,360 right person to go to this. What made you jump on 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,280 professions though? Oh shucks. 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,680 So I when I was first introduced into professions in Dragonfly, I 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,920 was, I was floored. I was like, dude, this is Oh my 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,800 God, this is a lot. This is a lot to soak in. 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,320 This is a lot to cover. And as you know, as a creator, 37 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,560 of course I'll spoil myself and try to get in on, get in on and 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,280 learn, just learn stuff ahead of time. 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,480 At the same time, I was kind of understanding very quickly that 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,040 this is a lot. There's a lot of folks that 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,800 aren't going to be able to handle this as well as they 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,440 possibly could. So I did my best during 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,800 Dragonfly, you know, so as early as then to try and help elevate 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 folks and to help people learn and to help people understand 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,440 like what's going on. And I did a round of guides here 46 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,960 and there and with some success, but I didn't do like quite as 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,880 much. So I would say like during 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Dragonflight, there's a lot of folks out there and I totally 49 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,120 agree with them. They felt frustrated, they felt 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,360 lost, they felt like they were making mistakes. 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,800 And so they were rightfully complaining to Blizzard. 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,200 Like, dude, you know, give us respects, give us something to 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,720 help us through and, and as a creator, while, you know, my 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,240 responsibilities as a creator only go so far. 55 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,840 Like I felt like I wanted to do more. 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,840 And so this time around with the war within, I wanted to go all 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,600 in, you know, one, providing lots of feedback early on so we 58 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,200 can so I can so I and other folks in the community can try 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,120 to steer the direction of how they wanted to approach our 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,920 professions this time. But also create a whole damn 61 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:28,520 series of guides to help folks to help elevate folks to lift 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,480 them up, to give them the the aptitude, the proficiency to at 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,480 the very least make decisions. Because obviously if I were to 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,480 try to give like a step by step instruction guide, knowing that 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,240 the beta cycles will constantly change, that would kind of set 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,520 us up for failure. Even the guides that I did put 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,520 out, some of it has outdated information. 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,680 And I'm trying my best to, you know, keep everything up to 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,440 date. But yeah, that was that's the 70 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,840 that's the main goal is to continue trying to share like 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,240 the fun of professions and also get past the things that make 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,320 people that that intimidated people and made things feel 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,680 complicated by pointing out, hey, folks, you want to do this 74 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,160 sort of thing, OK, cool. Just go down this line. 75 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Or hey, maybe you're not interested in things like 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,720 crafting orders and bargain and trade chat. 77 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Great, there's this auction house solution for you. 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,160 Maybe you can do this instead. And so I'm trying to present 79 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,360 like all these different options and ways to go about it in a 80 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,720 mostly digestible way. Yeah, so you're right, 81 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:31,760 Dragonfly, there was a lot of complexity. 82 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,120 It was like that big wall of like talent trees. 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,920 And overtime they added in stuff like the preview of like what 84 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,440 exactly everything was going to get. 85 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,720 But overall, a lot of people bounced off of that. 86 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,120 And now we're going into a new expansion. 87 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,040 It's a time for people to try and dip their toes back into it 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,320 again. So I'm really appreciative of 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,000 your videos. What would you say is the first 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,960 thing that people should kind of look at to wrap their heads 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,720 around professions in the War within? 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,960 There are there is a very excited, a very excited group of 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,080 creators, myself among them, who are eager to like help folks 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,040 out. We've created all sorts of 95 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,840 videos that go like either the either scratch the surface, 96 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,640 which is kind of what I lean to. There are folks that go really 97 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,680 in depth on like how to make like the best gold or what you 98 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,600 should use, what should what you should have as a profession. 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Like depending on if you are like a Raider or if you are very 100 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,680 social and active in the community or if you're just a 101 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,880 solo player, you know, there are lots of resources out there. 102 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,520 And so my first, the 1st place that I would point to would just 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,760 be like, you know, do a search in YouTube, look up your 104 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,120 profession and then just take a look at a sample of guides that 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,080 that might be there for you. The Wowhead beta talent 106 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,520 calculator is also another fantastic resource if you don't 107 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,000 have beta access and you want to take a look and see what the 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,480 trees mean. It gives you a good sense of how 109 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,480 these of how these things work. Even if you're not looking at it 110 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,040 in game, like just kind of just kind of as a preview. 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 If you look at the trees these days or if you look at the trees 112 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,480 back in Dragonfly, they easily got very confusing because you 113 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,000 would see certain points or certain talent tree node things 114 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,080 that you're like, OK, I think this is going to apply for 115 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,840 making a good gun or something like that. 116 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:26,240 But you might discover or you might not discover that in a 117 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,360 different branch. There's all these points that 118 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,760 also go towards making this gun really well in the war Within. 119 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,760 It's a lot more clear. And again, there are guys that 120 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,440 we'll try to point these things out to you, but by and large, 121 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,520 there are numerous examples of trying to specialize in like a 122 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,440 certain thing that you want to make, whether it's a potion, 123 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,200 piece of armor, a weapon or whatnot. 124 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,960 And for the most part, it's very clear you won't need to branch 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,560 off into like all these different directions. 126 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,640 It's not going to feel nearly as confusing. 127 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,360 I think the team, I think the white team has done a pretty 128 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,400 good job of doing their best to make how you progress more 129 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,080 transparent than before. OK, that's really good. 130 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,320 Actually. Along those lines, a lot of the 131 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,040 different professions had different ways of progressing, 132 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,200 especially when we went to the crafting with like alchemy and 133 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,440 those Eureka moments and the explosions and then having to 134 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,960 use the liquid courage and different different professions 135 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,320 had different ways of learning. Has it been more unified, or at 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,600 least made a little bit more simple? 137 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Or are there still those like, quite arcane ways of learning 138 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:40,600 stuff? Wow enjoys variety, so you are 139 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,520 in fact going to get something that is like, oh God, I got to 140 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 go into a raid for that recipe that everyone wants. 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,640 Oh my God. So there is a, it's just off the 142 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,280 top of my head, there is a certain jewel crafting recipe 143 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,720 that allows you to create sockets for both rings and 144 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,800 necklaces. That's a recipe that's going to 145 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 come from a certain boss in the upcoming raid. 146 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 I'm pretty sure it's going to apply to all the rate 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,000 difficulties. It doesn't matter which one. 148 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,040 And thankfully the rate difficulties are more accessible 149 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,640 sooner, most notably Rate Finder, which is fantastic. 150 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 But also something new that's being introduced is that there's 151 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,840 going to be a number of recipes that you're finding in Dells. 152 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,600 So Dells are going to be in the future. 153 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,880 You get to go in with brand your new buddy, and you're going to 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,320 smash stuff together and hopefully you'll be able to find 155 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,680 certain recipes from those areas. 156 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,000 There are still select number of recipes that are in fact behind 157 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,200 some renowned, but thankfully with war bands, renowned is 158 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,080 shared and so you won't have to. You want to be like, Oh my God, 159 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,919 I got to take my profession to it and wrap them up. 160 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,120 You don't have to do that anymore. 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,680 You can have your main take care of all that work and you know 162 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,560 they'll be fine there as well. There is also with Dragonfight, 163 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:54,920 there was this separate reputation called the Artisan 164 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Consortium, where that was a kind of sort of account wide 165 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,640 shared reputation that involved quite a bit of work with with 166 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,960 doing these like weeklies and and other quests in order to get 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,680 wrapped. That's pretty much gone. 168 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,160 It's all just like strictly a currency based thing. 169 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,440 So when you first start off in the Kas Algar on on each of your 170 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,400 characters, your character will get this one time kind of like 171 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,280 an easy allowance of 200 of this artisan acuity, this currency 172 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,360 that you can use for a variety of things, including just buying 173 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,040 the kind of recipe that you want to buy. 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,760 So day one, if you want to buy the recipe that lets you make a 175 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,640 powerful profession tool, because that's what a lot of 176 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,120 those are used for, cool, you can do that and you can 177 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,480 immediately make yourself available like, hey dudes, hey, 178 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,200 trade chat, I look at me, I can make this thing. 179 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,960 Of course, it's kind of a double edged sword because everyone 180 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,520 else is going to have that same access if they choose to have 181 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,160 it. So some of the folks are going 182 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,200 to be like, well, I also have the ability to make this thing. 183 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Meanwhile, there's going to be a lot of folks that are like, oh, 184 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,680 I'm going to, I want you to make it for me. 185 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:01,200 And so you're going to have kind of like this kind of immediate 186 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,680 interaction even even early on in the expansion. 187 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:07,280 I'm not saying during early access, but I mean like day one 188 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,960 of the the general release of the expansion, there's going to 189 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,560 be a lot of activity really fast. 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,600 OK. Yeah. 191 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,920 So then a lot of the questions for people, it's going to be 192 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,440 where do I start? And do you find that there are 193 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,840 traps in the profession trees, or does it look like no matter 194 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,040 where you go, there's something you can offer? 195 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,760 At first there were, but I mean, that's not important. 196 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,760 The whole beta process is about trying to iron that stuff out. 197 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,960 So the short answer, the better answer I should start off with 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,800 is no, there isn't going to be a situation or a place where 199 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,520 you're going to feel trapped. And that was like a really big 200 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,800 complaint, a big valid complaint during Dragonfly. 201 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Like, dude, I can't level like how awful was that for people 202 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,080 who were, you know, they had this is like their main 203 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,240 character that they played for years and now they felt stuck. 204 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,600 They weren't able to progress with their profession except for 205 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,120 like some dinky little quest in the Dark Moon fair that gave 206 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 them a cool I get a skill pointer to whoop they do. 207 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,360 So there are a couple of protections against that. 208 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,240 One, it's just easier to level your profession. 209 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,800 There are numerous kinds. Instead of traps, there are I 210 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,440 guess ramps or slides that let you level your profession a 211 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,600 little bit further than you normally would. 212 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,640 It does require like some extra resources obviously, but that'll 213 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,720 give you a path towards unlocking milestones that'll let 214 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,840 you access other trees and then these other specialization 215 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,120 specialization trees, you'll be able to access new recipes that 216 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,600 will in fact let you skill up. The probably the bigger thing to 217 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,040 talk about though are these things called patron orders or 218 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,560 NPC crafting orders. So start with day one of the 219 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,080 general release of the expansion, I'm predicting we're 220 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,640 going to start seeing these patron orders. 221 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,200 And we're going to see a round of folks, you know, we're going 222 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,800 to see like, you know, public orders, personal orders. 223 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,440 And then these patron orders, a number of these are going to pop 224 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,440 up. They're personal. 225 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,480 So no one's going to be stealing from each other. 226 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,800 And from there, it's just a matter of, OK, can I do that 227 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,040 one? Can I fulfil that one? 228 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Great. And you're going to get some 229 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:10,760 cool prizes out of it, including knowledge points, including 230 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,400 resources, including artisan acuity. 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,360 And also because those are, you know, because these recipes come 232 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,720 from all over the place, you may be able to get first craft 233 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,800 bonuses you'll be able to get you'll be able to get skill 234 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,160 levels as you know, the question was first asking. 235 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:31,680 So you'll be able to progress even if you're on a really bad 236 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,160 server that's very low population and there aren't 237 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,600 there isn't a lot of traffic going on. 238 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,800 Or if you happen to be on a very imbalanced server, hey, it's all 239 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,920 one faction, but you happen to be on the opposite faction. 240 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,520 You could still do these Patreon crafting notice you can still 241 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,320 progress your character and you'll be OK there. 242 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:53,080 So while there is while there is going to be a little bit of that 243 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,360 friction, because professions are largely a kind of a social 244 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,120 inter player sort of system. There are these new mechanisms 245 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,760 to make sure that you're not stuck and that you can still 246 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,120 feel like you can play your profession even if one of the 247 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,000 critical parts of professions, which is other people, even if 248 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,160 they're not really around. OK. 249 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,480 So what limits these like patron professions? 250 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,240 Is this something that people might use to catch up and 251 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,280 therefore, like there's like a certain limit that you can do 252 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,360 that increases every week? Or is it this something that 253 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,080 it's like there's a set amount each week and that's all you 254 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,680 get? So there there are things that 255 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,840 unfortunately we couldn't test. What we've been seeing in the 256 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,320 beta is we've been in this kind of catch up mode where there's 257 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,240 like like a dozen or so of these patient orders that were able to 258 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,400 complete and we're able to get either one or two knowledge 259 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,680 points out of some of these along with other prices. 260 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:49,800 Like I said, acuity, skill points, knowledge, all sorts of 261 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,520 stuff. As for the regular day-to-day, 262 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,040 those are things that we're going to discover together when 263 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,800 we hit general release. I'm going to predict it's going 264 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,200 to be like 5, maybe four of these quests that we'll be able 265 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,640 to see. But there are things that I, 266 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:08,880 that even in my testing, I wasn't able to make good 267 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,800 observations on. I was hearing that these patient 268 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,160 orders will come in every every month. 269 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,720 I'm sorry, every Tuesday through and Friday, kind of like the 270 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,000 world quests have. Sometimes we've been seeing them 271 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,760 sooner than that. But personally, like I've been 272 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,160 kind of like lost in the whole mumble jumble of making so many 273 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,800 alts and making all these characters that there's no way 274 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,240 that I was able to like keep track appropriately. 275 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:40,200 But I would say you can probably count on the traffic of these 276 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,200 patron orders to feel kind of sort of like the mission table. 277 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,040 So you can almost think of it like that. 278 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Only the cost to use these or to fulfill these is going to be 279 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,800 potentially much higher. Not every patron order that you 280 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,560 see is going to provide all the materials that you need. 281 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,480 It's going to almost feel like players who are submitting 282 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,040 orders and they're like, they provided nothing, dude. 283 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,200 And so you're going to be like screwed, I'm not going to do 284 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,720 that. And yeah, that might result in 285 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,480 you not fulfilling this patient order. 286 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,040 That would give some knowledge points. 287 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,680 However, there are built in catch UPS right away that are 288 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,680 going to be in place. So as early as Week 2, instead 289 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,880 of maybe those five orders as an example, maybe you'll see 9 or 290 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,120 10, or perhaps it might work like, hey, cool, I did a number 291 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,800 of orders. But then the next day I'm going 292 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,080 to see like a few more. I doubt that Blizzard wants us 293 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,600 to see like 100 orders. You know, if we're like, let's 294 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,760 say if we make a brand new character in the middle of the 295 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,040 expansion, we're not going to see like 50 or 100 orders. 296 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,400 Like, hey, have that and you want to catch up, right, buddy? 297 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,840 I'm sure it's going to be something a bit more digestible, 298 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,360 something that makes us feel like, OK, cool, we're doing 299 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,840 work, we're keeping ourselves busy. 300 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,280 Boy, I'm a bit too busy. I'm going to run out of 301 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,240 resources. But oh, but at least there's 302 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,920 always going to be a path. There's always, there's always 303 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,160 going to be this, this, this accessibility, this opportunity 304 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,160 to catch up. Yeah. 305 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,480 And that goes along with the early release because you were 306 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,880 talking about these orders showing up with like the general 307 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,680 release. So with the early release, how 308 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,560 far do you think people can get and what what do you think? 309 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Because we don't know right now. So what's your best guess at 310 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,120 what's going to be available to us? 311 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,160 There was an interview like way back, like like pretty much 312 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,360 during BlizzCon when game director Ian has Casas kind of 313 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,520 explained what would and would not be available. 314 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,160 He said that specialization points would not be available, 315 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,600 although professions and, and other features would. 316 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,280 The way that I'm kind of looking at this, though, I'm kind of 317 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,560 looking at the early release and even though, and even the 318 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,000 initial launch day to count as kind of sort of a single day 319 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,320 where we're not going to have a lot of the features available, 320 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,320 such as being able to earn lots of specialization points from 321 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,000 just finding stuff on the ground. 322 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,000 If we're if we happen to be a gatherer, I have serious stats 323 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,680 that we're going to see patron orders because that would 324 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,280 basically any, any instance where we can get an advantage 325 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:14,160 over other people who had not been who, who are not present 326 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,040 day one, we're probably not going to see any of that sort of 327 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,839 stuff. So like I said, we're probably 328 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:25,200 not going to see patron orders, things that we can skill points 329 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,680 that we can like pick up off the ground. 330 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,240 We're not going to see the zone activities. 331 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,120 Those won't be available. I I believe we're either not 332 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:36,200 going to see rares at all or we're not going to get like 333 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,960 reputation from rares, things that otherwise could risk 334 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,600 leaving others behind. Yeah. 335 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,120 OK. So then if there are no rares, 336 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:50,400 sometimes like we saw in there, like cabins, particular goods 337 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,680 come from rares so that we might not see that. 338 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,280 Part of what's really strong in the early game is that dual 339 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,640 gathering and that's one of the more lucrative gold making 340 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,800 opportunities. Part of what makes that really 341 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,600 good is that node variety that we saw in Dragonflight. 342 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,480 So you would have like the elemental or and you would have 343 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,520 like the windswept herbs and so forth. 344 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:21,320 In your travels around the underground of the War Within, 345 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,600 have you seen like a lot of variety of those nodes? 346 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,320 Are we seeing that same sort of thing happen in the War Within? 347 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,520 Largely, yes, you're going to see you're going to see 348 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,760 different kinds of nodes, but they're going to have like these 349 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,960 different sorts of effects like there are or nodes that 350 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,360 literally throw bombs, exploding bombs at you. 351 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,080 There are one there are herbs that when you pick them, you 352 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,760 will suddenly get blasted in, you know, a great distance and 353 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,840 depending on where this herb is, it might just shoot you down to 354 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,320 your death, which is really fantastic unless you have like 355 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,400 the appropriate amount skill or whatever. 356 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,480 So there is going to be like that sort of same variety and 357 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,160 something that we had seen from that we did not see at the start 358 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,080 of Dragonflight, but later on is we'll be able to easily identify 359 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080 like the cool nodes. Like, hey, if it's if this thing 360 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,720 has a really special global rise, OK, cool. 361 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,880 That's going to be like one of those really cool nodes that I 362 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,360 can use this overload ability. So from gathering, we can expect 363 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,560 a very similar feel. It's just, it's also just a 364 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,960 little bit different because we're seeing different kinds of 365 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,040 nodes, but the flow of, hey, I'm going to be out there, I'm going 366 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,080 to pick stuff. There's a special thing I'm 367 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:34,120 going to use my my ability to activate like some cool effect 368 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:38,480 or to get more things. A lot of that is largely a lot 369 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,760 of that is going to be intact. Now, one other thing because we 370 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,840 talked about like catch UPS with the crafting professions. 371 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,880 One big one big and very cool thing about gathering 372 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,760 professions is that they also have their their own inherent 373 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 catch up too. And it's a lot more simple. 374 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,480 It's just keep gathering. So every now and then, let's say 375 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,280 we're like a little bit into the expansion. 376 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,560 Usually when you start off your week, you're going to get a 377 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,560 round of skill points by just picking stuff up and you know 378 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,760 that you're kind of quote done because all of a sudden you get 379 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,520 like this epic kind of material that they use it. 380 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,800 You get like two or three skill points, which is, hey, that's 381 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:22,320 great if you're behind or you'll know that you're behind because 382 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,040 you'll actually get more stuff. You'll get more of these single 383 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,200 skill points items if you just keep gathering. 384 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,800 So for the for the person who is a regular gathering kind of 385 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,320 person, they're going to find that, you know, if they feel 386 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,000 like they're like one 2-3 weeks behind, they'll be able to get 387 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,080 caught up as long as they just keep doing what they're doing. 388 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,800 So that part's very cool. Yeah, no, that, that is pretty 389 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,560 awesome. And I think when I was leveling 390 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:52,640 skinning and leveling at all, doing skinning, I managed to Max 391 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,080 that out before I even hit cap. So gatherings always been really 392 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,200 strong for that. One of the things with gathering 393 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,240 was the different ranks of material. 394 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,640 So like you would have the rank 1-2 and three, but like rank one 395 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,520 became pretty obsolete fast. And then once people scaled up, 396 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,160 we no longer really needed rank rank three. 397 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Is there like a better difference between them? 398 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,480 Is is it going to follow the same sort of thing in in as far 399 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,760 as you can infer from like just beta trials? 400 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:27,520 You know, some folks that they're going to kind of debate 401 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,080 whether or not this is better, but it has changed. 402 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,640 So as you were saying, eventually we would graduate 403 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,600 from these lower rank materials. We just stopped seeing them. 404 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,880 And then these lower rank materials, they would just kind 405 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,040 of sit in this weird spot because they were kind of 406 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,520 useless. But but but they were kind of 407 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,240 rare because people would stop getting them. 408 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,800 And so the price of these goods, they would just kind of like 409 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,560 have this weird space where it would be almost a little bit 410 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,240 more expensive than rank twos, maybe even rank threes. 411 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,880 The expectation here and the numbers have not been reliable. 412 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,760 I've had I've presented my numbers and other people have 413 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,640 been saying otherwise. So I really don't know. 414 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:12,160 But we can expect even a master gatherer person is still going 415 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,360 to have a fairly good chance of seeing rank one materials. 416 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,440 It might be as even as 3030 thirty. 417 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,440 My observation was more like 50-30 twenty. 418 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,280 And other creators, other other folks who've been in the space, 419 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,040 they've been giving all sorts of different numbers. 420 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,920 But what we can expect is just a lot bigger of a presence of 421 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,200 these rank one materials, which is both good and bad. 422 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Because for some it's going to be like, oh, no, I'm not going 423 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,480 to get the good materials. Well, what are we going to do 424 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,480 with this? But at the same time, there are 425 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,160 different crafting professions that are able to utilize 426 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,560 materials and repurpose them into something else almost 427 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,240 entirely, like books are going or chefs cooking people. 428 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,280 They're going to be able to use low level certain a certain herb 429 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,720 in order to enhance or in order to create most recipes. 430 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080 There are alchemists who are able to take some of these low 431 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,200 level materials and turn them into different kinds of 432 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,520 materials, perhaps even higher level ranked materials that can 433 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,280 be more usable in crafts. And also all the most of the 434 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,800 gathering professions, actually all of them. 435 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Yeah, all of them. They were able to refine 436 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,880 materials. Now in Dragonflight, it wasn't 437 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,360 very popular at all because as I was saying, there weren't any 438 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,840 rank one materials. There weren't enough rank one 439 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,640 materials to to use and the pricing was weird. 440 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,680 The the idea of refining in the war within, it's kind of the 441 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,920 same as Dragonflight where it's like kind of a fall back, like a 442 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,640 just in case. Like if there's a weird 443 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,760 situation where there's so much demand for rank three materials, 444 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,440 that's the supply of it becomes like impacted and prices start 445 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,840 to go crazy. That's where naturally gatherers 446 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,760 are going to come and be like, dude, I'm going to make some of 447 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,000 that money. And so they're going to take 448 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,360 their rank one rank two materials, refine these into 449 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:06,280 higher qualities and kind of help to restore that supply. 450 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,880 Now, of course, that still means there are there's still 451 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,280 effectively prices are basically still going to keep going up, 452 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,440 but it's also going to provide that, that opportunity, this 453 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,000 challenge for players to be like, Hey, you want that money, 454 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,480 right? It's it's there, it's off the 455 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,160 ground if you want to pick it up. 456 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,480 And so I've been saying this ever since I've seen stuff like 457 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,680 this ever since I saw the stuff about like the rank materials. 458 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,080 It's like, dude, gathering is going to win. 459 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,680 It's going to win so hard. It's, and it's not just the 460 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,240 availability of these of these materials, it's the way that 461 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,720 crafting demands high level materials in order to make like 462 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,640 cool stuff and good quality stuff. 463 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,160 And that's something that players were obsessed with. 464 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,920 For them, it was rank 5 or nothing, rank 3 potions or 465 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,400 nothing. And the war within is being 466 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,080 positioned and not guaranteed because we can't predict what 467 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,720 players are going to do. But the way that these systems 468 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,840 are positioning themselves, it's going to challenge folks to be 469 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,600 like, maybe I'll settle for like this rank one potion for now 470 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,280 because, yeah, this rank three, this, this ain't happening 471 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,400 because no way. So there's a lot that goes into, 472 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,640 there's a lot that goes into just this thing with materials 473 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:21,200 and, and it's, it's just crazy because Blizzard can easily just 474 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,360 kind of put their thumb on the scale and be like, oh, let's 475 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,080 just have, let's have less rank threes. 476 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,680 And then all of a sudden you're going to see this huge impact on 477 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,920 the market. Now I'm not saying that they'll 478 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,720 do that, but it's certainly being set up to where if they 479 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:39,360 did want to manipulate prices and and supply, they could 480 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,440 easily do in it by they could easily do it by messing with 481 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,400 these drop rates. OK, right. 482 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,840 So if I am trying to get professions and I'm doing it to 483 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,080 support my RAID, do you have any recommendations on like what 484 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,880 professions give a lot to the raid and which professions give 485 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,440 less? I'm not asking you to like come 486 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,640 up with a ranking here, just like examples of like, hey, this 487 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,800 gives a lot of stuff and this maybe if you're looking for RAID 488 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,160 stuff, you want to choose something. 489 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Else So what would I suggest for it? 490 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,200 Well, if you got your RAID, then I would suggest sitting down 491 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320 with your folks and be like, all right, guys, So what you going 492 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,480 to do? What you going to do? 493 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,240 What you going to do and try to and try to coordinate from 494 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,120 there, like what I tried to do with my raid is just kind of do 495 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:32,080 a quick poll as to like, Hey, what what profession do you plan 496 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,760 on? At least try it out first. 497 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:38,800 I did a quick poll with them and funny enough, no one said yes to 498 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,440 enchanting. So I'm like, oh, OK, we're going 499 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,200 to have a clear opportunity here. 500 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,720 And this Guild may have a big problem with acquiring enchants 501 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,920 to help each other out with, you know, with setting ourselves up. 502 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,680 As for shucks, As for professions that provide like a 503 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,600 really big help, kind of hard to think of stuff out the top of my 504 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,720 head. There's so many like small 505 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,600 examples. But I guess engineering comes to 506 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,680 mind because that's what I mean. Go engineers, There are certain 507 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,760 there's an item called the pausing pylon. 508 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,600 This is something that actually anyone can throw down, but it's 509 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,440 made by engineers and by throwing this down, it will 510 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,160 cause all the durations of your buffs, whether it's flasks or 511 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,720 files or or food buffs, it'll cause them to pause while you 512 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,360 are while you're in the presence of this pylon. 513 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,480 Now it's a non combat thing, so it's the ideal thing to use when 514 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,160 someone's like, oh, I got to go to the bathroom or hey, let's 515 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,320 plan, you know, we wiped. Let's talk this through. 516 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,480 Let's watch the five minute video or whatever. 517 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,200 Someone throws down the pausing pylon and everyone is going to 518 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,680 be able to everyone's going to be able to, you know, pause 519 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,160 their buffs and everything. So that helps to prolong prolong 520 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,480 these buffs and if you're able to use it well enough and 521 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,600 effectively be able to use like one less feast, 1 less round of 522 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,280 files, that's going to be like a huge savings for you and your 523 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,000 raid cooking is going to be a very big deal too. 524 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,560 I have a guide coming up. It's terrible, but I have a 525 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,440 guide coming up where the cool thing about cooking these days 526 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,880 is that while they are going to take away the alchemical flavor 527 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,640 pocket, which is a very popular item that people used in their 528 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,280 crafted gear because it made their it made their well fed 529 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,160 buff like last for an hour. Long and persist through death 530 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:29,920 like. It was, yeah. 531 00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:31,640 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. 532 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,920 I totally forgot about it being about it lasting longer, but 533 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,600 yeah, it persist through death. And that was like the best part 534 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,080 about it. In this case, though, everyone 535 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,920 who cooks is capable of creating for themselves what's called a 536 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,520 hearty meal or a hearty feast, where you can take five or ten 537 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,480 or something like that. You can take a number of this 538 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,760 food, smash it together and it's still the same food, but it does 539 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,840 persist through death. So while you're not going to be 540 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880 thrown down X amount of money for a flavor pocket or you're 541 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,080 not going to or you're not going to be farming it, you know, 542 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,960 doing super whatever you do have this opportunity or everyone has 543 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720 this opportunity to make themselves some decent food 544 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840 that'll last quite some time. So great for raids, great for a 545 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,720 bit. The plus folk who are like, oh 546 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,560 God, I wiped, but hey, I don't have to worry about it anymore 547 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,120 without having to without having to feel dependent on crafting 548 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,640 and the flavor pocket. So those are those are just like 549 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,560 two small examples. There are like each profession 550 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,800 has like a little something great to give, especially when 551 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,320 you consider like the armor professions. 552 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,040 And if a Guild is organized, they'll all pull the all pull 553 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,720 together, bring resources together, try to refine these 554 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,000 things into usable materials, high quality materials. 555 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720 That way your crafter or crafters will be able to pump 556 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,640 out the best items for everyone officials. 557 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,680 So it's still a lot of teamwork that that's involved in, but 558 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,560 every profession is capable of it. 559 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,160 That's awesome. OK, so from the other end, if I 560 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,480 want to be like all about me, a little bit more selfish, what 561 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,080 are the profession perks that like really stand out, that are 562 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,320 like, that's amazing for, you know, the solo player or the 563 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,760 person who isn't part of a big organized group? 564 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,360 As for like solo stuff, like if someone's just looking to make 565 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,960 money, I would always advise someone to do just gather, just 566 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,160 gather. It's money on the ground, pick 567 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,080 it up, throw it in the auction house, watch the money roll in. 568 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,880 So there's, you know, there's that and it's very simple. 569 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,840 It doesn't involve anybody apart from maybe cancel scanning or 570 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,680 something like that if you're familiar with that, just 571 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,240 whatever. So there's always that. 572 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,520 Now for the person who wants to enjoy professions or at least 573 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,880 want to be like, hey, you know, I want the fantasy of being a 574 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 blacksmith, but boy, I can't really handle like these 575 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,800 crafting orders or whatnots. One there is the, there's the 576 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,480 patient crafting order system that I've mentioned to at least 577 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,280 give you that role play feel, even if you're not doing with, 578 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,160 even if you're not doing this with other folks. 579 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,440 But there are certain perks or there are certain cool things 580 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,800 that you, that most professions can do with where you don't 581 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,800 exactly focus on the, the crafting order system or, or 582 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,400 trade chat, but you can rely on the auction house in Dragonfly 583 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,440 and especially in the War Within, you're able to create 584 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,680 all sorts of different reagents that are the pieces that create 585 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,320 like these cool potions, these cool flasks and armor and 586 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,640 weapons and so on and so forth. And it is quite easy to 587 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,920 specialize into these. All you really need are the, you 588 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,320 know, are just the ingredients to the basic materials, the 589 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,920 herbs, the ore or whatnot or the skins to get you started. 590 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,920 And some so someone who wants to pair up just leather working and 591 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,520 skin, but they mostly want to just play on their own. 592 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,440 You know, I would say it would be a good idea to focus on 593 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,080 reagents. And that way you could that way 594 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,800 you can take your high level crafts or your high level 595 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,680 materials or refine them into high level materials. 596 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,920 So that way you can make a bunch of cool stuff that's high rank 597 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000 and all of a sudden you're finding like like they're 598 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,840 selling for like ridiculous prices. 599 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,680 You're like, why is it selling for so much? 600 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760 And it's because these things are going to be in such high 601 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,120 demand that the early market, at least it's not going to have the 602 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,040 energy or the concentration. You know, maybe we'll talk about 603 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,600 that in a bit. It's not going to have the 604 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,720 energy to produce these things as much as you like. 605 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,800 So solo crafters that felt like they were pushed out of the 606 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,200 market because all these big burly dudes, they're, you know, 607 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,160 they're using like 50 alts to do this. 608 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,720 They're still going to find opportunities if they look in 609 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,480 the right place and reagents, sellable stuff on the auction 610 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,080 house. That would be the direction to 611 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,720 go for like anybody. OK, well you mentioned it, so 612 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,800 let's talk about concentration because like inspiration is dead 613 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Long live concentration, the new mechanic for crafting. 614 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,960 So can you like explain how this works for us and like how 615 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,800 players like might be able to use it more effectively? 616 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,080 I've been trying to explain like an easy way to I've been trying 617 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,320 to figure out an easy explanation that here's one I'll 618 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,440 try. Think of professions these days 619 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,200 in the world within at least as daily cooldowns. 620 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,280 There's, you know, high end crafting is going to involve a 621 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,600 lot of these so-called daily cool downs because you have this 622 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:24,080 resource called concentration. It's going to let you turn like 623 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,440 a rank 4 item into a rank 5 item. 624 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,080 It's or a rank 2 to a rank three if it's a consumable and if 625 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720 you're specializing, if you're, if you're doing the work, you're 626 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,800 putting your time into it, you're going to find that it's 627 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,000 fairly easy to create most items at a rank 4, but it's a really 628 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,840 long Rd. to make that rank 4 into a rank five. 629 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,560 It's like, OK, day one, I can pretty much make most of these 630 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,320 things that are rank four. OK, that's pretty awesome. 631 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,800 But it might take like a month and some change to start 632 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,040 crafting some of these things at a rank five. 633 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,520 In the meantime, if you want to make cool stuff for people 634 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,080 through crafting orders or on the auction house, you're 635 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,200 probably going to use some of this concentration. 636 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,199 And so when once people get started and find themselves like 637 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,719 hitting these, hitting these kinds of walls, they'll feel 638 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,600 like, oh, true, OK, I'm going to be kind of like doing this once 639 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,600 a day where I can make one cool thing. 640 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,159 Like I can make 5 rank 3 potions or something a day, which 641 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,639 doesn't feel like a lot. But eventually this cool down 642 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,000 starts to whittle down a little bit because you're slowly 643 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,320 putting points in, you're slowly getting a couple more skill 644 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,360 points, you're being given better materials to work with. 645 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,199 You are getting, you're making yourself better tools or you're 646 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,520 buying tools off of someone else or something like that to a 647 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,120 point where eventually you're spending less and less of this 648 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,480 concentration towards like, oh, now I can do like a couple of 649 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,199 things, a couple of these casts a day instead of one every day 650 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,120 or 1:00 every two days. It eventually can come to the 651 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,639 point where you can overcome the cooldown altogether. 652 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,960 As long as you're using the best materials. 653 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,760 If you're provided those, you're able to make these things 654 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,960 perpetually. So that kind of goes back to 655 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,800 what I was talking about with how there's potential for 656 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,240 materials to be exhausted because there's going to be such 657 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,440 a high consumption of them. Because you know, there's going 658 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,240 to be some people out there who are like, Yep, I definitely want 659 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:20,080 to raise to like make all of these things like the best rank. 660 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,120 And once they're able to, it's going to feel great for them, 661 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,080 You know, for people who make it there first, they're going to be 662 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,400 able to provide so many of these things for people. 663 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,800 But at the same time, it's going to start impacting the price of 664 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,280 these goods to where it's like, oh, maybe now it's too expensive 665 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,760 for me to make these things. So there's some really, really 666 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,560 wild things that are that are capable that are possible with 667 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,800 with the abandoned of inspiration or going away from 668 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,000 luck and going to these more deterministic cool downs that we 669 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,440 can slowly chip away at as as the expansion goes, as the 670 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,440 expansion goes by and we're able to scale up. 671 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,600 Now, of course, as a reminder, you know, if you if we also 672 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,960 wanted to like make multiple characters alts, some people 673 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480 play this thing called the Remix, some people did this 674 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,880 thing called Radiant Echo. So people might have a number of 675 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,120 alts. They can start doing that and be 676 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640 able to catch up fairly easily. We just got to, you know, put in 677 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,080 the little little bit of elbow grease, get some extra materials 678 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,680 to get themselves up and they can start if they really want to 679 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,000 do like this. If you really want to work with 680 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,720 multiple characters to produce more materials and more goods 681 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:29,000 and whatnots, sure they can. But solo people should be able 682 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,320 to get a lot of access to this too. 683 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,280 Oh, OK, OK, no, that's that's great that like I'm as like 684 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,480 somebody who mostly plays on one character, something like I have 685 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,160 my shaman who is my main character and then all my other 686 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,040 alts kind of exists in servitude to my main to support that, 687 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,040 support that. I'm with that. 688 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,560 I'm with that, yeah. And so like the fact that I 689 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040 could like, even as I go through, like I'll have like 690 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:58,080 maybe a couple of characters that will make it to Max level, 691 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,480 but I have a bunch of guys who are basically going to be parked 692 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,720 in the main city and far and being the profession bots, as it 693 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,840 were. And I'm glad that there's a use 694 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,720 for them. Oh, absolutely. 695 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. 696 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:21,320 So then for people who are looking at professions, is, is 697 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,080 it going to be in your estimation that the war within 698 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,040 is going to allow for some casual gold making or does it 699 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,520 really feel like you kind of have to go all in to make a real 700 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,920 impact? When it comes to when it comes 701 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,240 to the solo player, there's, there's different flavors of 702 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,040 them, right? Like some people are like, I 703 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,720 don't care about making money. I just want to make some cool 704 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,560 stuff for myself and for that it's extremely cool. 705 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,600 I think they I think Blizzard has done a really good job of 706 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,160 catering to like the solo player who doesn't care about the 707 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,840 market. And if they want to make, you 708 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,440 know, if the solo player wants to make something for 709 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,080 themselves, like, oh, I just want to make myself like this 710 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,040 cool weapon or whatnot cool. It doesn't take long to skill 711 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,680 themselves up to or to get the proficiency to make something 712 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,640 out of rank four and use their concentration. 713 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,960 Even if it's a even if it comes at a huge expenditure, they can 714 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,320 still make that out of rank 5 knowing that they're only going 715 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,120 to be using concentration like not even daily, but maybe 716 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,840 weekly. And so they're definitely always 717 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,240 going to have access to something like that. 718 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,280 As for casual crafting, that's still also that's still also 719 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960 possible to again, thanks to concentration. 720 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:37,040 So even if you're not the best crafter, you can still keep 721 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,400 chipping away at concentration cost because you're just 722 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,240 plugging points every now and then. 723 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,120 You know routine there and there are new routines that you'll be 724 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,280 picking up most notably to dip into these Patreon crafting 725 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,760 orders and see what's there. So it's not just while it's not 726 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,680 exactly a gold maker's paradise by working those Patreon 727 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,920 crafting orders, it is a way to develop your skills. 728 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,560 So that way if you do happen to see, you know, maybe it once in 729 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,560 a blue moon, you'll see like a public order or maybe these are 730 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,840 maybe they'll work out even better. 731 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,680 But if you happen to see someone asking for something, it's like, 732 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,480 hey, you can do that. And I think what we're going to 733 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,960 find is that while we are going to have very industrious folk, 734 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,880 whales, goblins who are going to do their best to dominate the 735 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,320 market, there's going to be kind of like this sleeper potential 736 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,160 of the more casual audience who is in fact capable of doing all 737 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,880 of doing these things. It's just that they're only able 738 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,800 to do it like maybe once every couple of days, but they can do 739 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,240 it. Meanwhile, even the industrious 740 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,840 crafter might run out of materials, especially early on 741 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,520 in the expansion. They might run out of materials, 742 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,320 they might run out of concentration, they might run 743 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,160 out of alts who can also perform this. 744 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,280 And so that's where the more casual crowd can come in, as 745 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,880 long as they're at least keeping an eye on trade chat and being 746 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,760 like, so is anyone someone can make a thing, I can do so that 747 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,640 and that's very. Cool. 748 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,960 It's very cool. I think that's I'm, I'm hoping I 749 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,240 should just stick with that. I'm hoping that players will be 750 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,240 able to tap into this potential and really take advantage of 751 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,440 what's what they're capable of. That is really awesome. 752 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,760 I'm hopeful too. So then overall, do you think 753 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,960 that for the War Within professions are in a better 754 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,680 place than they were in Dragonflight? 755 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,880 They're definitely positioned to be in a better place. 756 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:31,560 Like I can see that Blizzard had made a lot of strides to learn 757 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,440 lessons like, and there have been very legit criticisms. 758 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,840 It's too complicated, it's too deep, it's hard to understand. 759 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,400 And they've been, again, trying to chip away at some of these 760 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,000 criticisms by making these specializations a little bit 761 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,080 more straightforward. There's a certain feature that 762 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,280 unfortunately didn't make in I want to point this out. 763 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,680 So for enchanting, what you're able to do in the enchanting 764 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,840 crafting window is in the search bar. 765 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,600 You can actually type in the name of a specialization and 766 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,320 you'll be able to see all the recipes related to that 767 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,480 specialization. Now, unfortunately, that's the 768 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,480 only one where I would where I've consistently seen that sort 769 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,240 of that sort of feature. I've tried other professions and 770 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:13,880 I didn't see that same sort of feature. 771 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,000 So I'm hoping that they fully that they fully put that in 772 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,120 very, very soon, if not when it goes live. 773 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600 And this is just kind of like hidden for some for some stupid 774 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:28,320 reason, But the accessibility of it, the, the ease of, of, of 775 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,960 understanding. And of course, the community has 776 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,840 gotten a lot better about it too, and hopefully is doing a 777 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,320 better job of communicating how this works to folks. 778 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,000 And as long as we're just open to continue to have 779 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,040 conversations and to answer questions and everything, as 780 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,360 long as the community is, is, is definitely here to help each 781 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,120 other out. And if people can feel reassured 782 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,640 of that and take advantage of it, then I think we'll be in a 783 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,440 good spot. You know, Buzzard did I, I think 784 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,160 they did do did do a lot. I think it's a lot of it's on 785 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,480 the community to also help each other out too. 786 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,560 And I think it's, I think it's a lot better. 787 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,960 Nice. OK, so if people want like more 788 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,240 details and I and all of that, where can people find you and 789 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:13,440 the stuff that you do? Yeah, you can always find me on 790 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,560 my YouTube channel. I do have a full, full on 791 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,480 playlist and hopefully it'll be linked somewhere to where folks 792 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,400 can get started. There's like a video at the very 793 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,960 top of the playlist that has just kind of a general breakdown 794 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,960 of, hey, so here's how concentration works as opposed 795 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,240 to inspiration. And then from there I go over 796 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,600 each and every profession I have cooking and fishing. 797 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,960 That's like, I guess the last stuff kind of like a bonus that 798 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,280 I was able to sort of squeeze in, and hopefully I'll have that 799 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,080 out soon, but there are numerous other creators. 800 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,800 I mean, just just type in war within professions and you will 801 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,320 find no shortage of folks who are trying to help with 802 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,040 different breakdowns, different summaries, tips, build ideas, 803 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,640 all sorts of stuff. I am not the only one. 804 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,720 I, I'm not even like, I don't even consider myself like the 805 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:02,000 best gold maker. Like all I try to do is, you 806 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,960 know, just try to help lift folks up and get people at least 807 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,600 knowledgeable enough to, to feel empowered and confident enough 808 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,280 to make their own decisions. But of course my door is always 809 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,520 open for questions. Thank you for your time today 810 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,160 again. So I'd love to have you back and 811 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,400 we'll see how it's developed over the course of Dragonflight, 812 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,920 or rather over the course of the war Within. 813 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160 But thank you again for your time today. 814 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,640 Absolutely glad to glad to be here. 815 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,680 Until next time, guys, I've been Manny. 816 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,600 He's been sold. And may your hits be grits.