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So people are talking about like
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we're going to get and they're 
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earth in. 
Is this going to be where every 

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single thing that we came across
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races? 
We got the ears for the for the 

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humans can now have elf ears and
so forth. 

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And people are wondering when 
we're going to get the here and 

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there. 
And so this person says, I don't

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think that they should wait too 
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people as an allied race. 
If they wait too long to release

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them, Blizzard is going to hear 
a Heron air fill. 

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I got to go, I got to, I got to 
go. 

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I forgot I had something, 
something I had to do. 

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I can't remember what it was not
not be here mostly for. 

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The Forsaken. 
For Lauderon for. 

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The Karen Tour for Pandaria for 
Calendar. 

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To the burning region for 
Gilnaeus, but has not died for 

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the Lich King for the. 
Sindora for the alliance. 

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For the horn for Azeroth. 
Welcome to For Azeroth. 

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I am one of your hosts, The 
Truth in Many, and I am joined 

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of course, by the Triumphant 
joining me from the US of A, it 

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is Lex Rance. 
Hello Lex, how is your week in 

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World of Warcraft going? 
It's going well, Manny. 

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I got myself in some delves, 
although I did, I spent so much 

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time trying to get my keys 
because I'm like, I need to get 

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my bountiful coffer so I can do 
my bountiful delves and I can 

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get my eights. 
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Delve and I forgot that it was a
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be in Tier 4 and I was like, all
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That's exciting. 
But it was fun and I got myself 

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back running around killing 
things, you know, human all 

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around, getting my bountiful 
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Nice, nice. 
OK. 

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And Sean, yo, Season 2 has 
begun. 

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What I, I mean, I am assuming 
that you've locked in. 

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How has the World of Warcraft 
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the initial story, but how's the
World of Warcraft been treating 

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you? 
What has Season 2, at least 

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these first two days, been for 
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We got we went eight of eight 
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By the time listeners are 
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basically just grinding dungeons
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Right now I haven't even done 
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no power tied to it. 
I haven't done the story quest 

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but we are blasting. 
Keys are feeling really good 

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this season. 
My pattern currently is like 2 

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chest to six, deplete an 8, 
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then two just a six and then 
rinse and repeat. 

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I've had as a recording. 
I've had six Priory of the 

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sacred flames. 
We Mike, He was the one we chose

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to push it. 
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It has been a six Priory once 
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Every time we get it's so wild. 
Every time I I deplete Nate I 

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get A7 Priory. 
I am really good at that dungeon

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right now. 
Sean, I, I hate, I hate to 

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interrupt the flow, but just 
because I'd want something to do

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this for somebody to do this for
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You did see the shadow just 
pulled something off of your. 

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Counter. 
I'll be right back. 

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Manny, how's your week been? 
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about my week. 
So I, I guess I'm more in the 

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Lex camp of things. 
I mean, I did the storyline and 

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everything and then I went into 
Dells and yes, it's a new season

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going to start up Dells from 
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And so like I, I went through 
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then so now I'm doing the 
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to try and get that stuff done. 
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underpin boss, the lower level, 
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I'm glad I'm doing it early in 
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actual challenge and this is 
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This is like the OK. 
I I don't quite have enough 

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damage to like burst that shield
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The bombs. 
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annoying thing. 
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lode first boss where it drops 
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This is annoying because the 
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on top of the the bombs and so I
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It's really annoying. 
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what I can. 
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yet as of this recording. 
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editor seat. 
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I actually found now a start of 
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So we start running on Sundays 
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I did like 1 mythic 0 to do that
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That's like, oh, please complete
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So that I put I did the dungeon.
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I will I will push through with 
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But yeah, it's mostly being just
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So yes, we had our first night 
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late. 
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The mugsy got a few attempts on 
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clean that up before the end of 
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into Heroic. 
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thus far, but I know different 
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nights. 
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Thursdays. 
I do raid Thursdays so I'm very,

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very excited and I'm trying to 
pull out who my blind bosses are

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so I can tell you guys who not 
to tell me about. 

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Not that we not that we discuss 
Strat usually, but just in case 

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somebody was thinking about 
discussing Strat you can't tell 

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me about. 
Oh Lord wow. 

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We're not good at making our 
announcements clear. 

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Have you jumped in? 
Have you jumped into LFR at all?

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No, I all I have done is some 
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and some jobs. 
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understand what you guys are 
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really overwhelming just because
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And like I always have. 
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turn this off that I'm just too 
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always have that dumb little 
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I was like doing a job and I'm 
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do something else. 
I don't want to actually do 10 

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jobs in a row. 
I have other things to do with 

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my life. 
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like big green arrow, big green 
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And I'm like I don't want to do.
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turn that off by. 
You could turn it off by just 

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hitting five. 
Are you serious? 

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It's on your. 
It's on your. 

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Yeah. 
So like 5? 

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5. 
No, no, no. 

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So when you are in the car, in 
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remote, there's a remote job 
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what's currently active. 
You just need to press it again 

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while you're in your in your G9 
breakneck vehicle to shut it 

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off. 
There's also an item that should

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be in your bags that is the 
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that also to turn that. 
Off Oh, is that why my bags are 

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always full? 
Because I have this one remote 

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job thing and that's taking up 
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expect to be able to use for 
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Yeah. 
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OK. 
That makes sense. 

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I will say I will say honking 
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gotten old. 
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little bit slower so I don't 
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But anytime I I hit the gas I'm 
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that horn and I'm sure that 
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I'm having the time of my life. 
I had a slight change of heart 

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on the car. 
I don't I switched to the 

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engine. 
That's just a picture of a 

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bouquet of flowers. 
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of flowers mode and it's 
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but it has made me not hate the 
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just regular ground mount 
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mount button and the car isn't 
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But yeah, I still find the zone 
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Have you tried hitting the horn 
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car? 
I have not. 

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I have not tried hitting the 
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Sean, just like one feature of 
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incredible and it's the fact 
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damn board and I'm sure that'll 
be less over stimulating, right?

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Because what you're thinking 
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like really overwhelming and 
over stimulating area that 

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you're telling me is very 
upsetting and and it's hard to 

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feel like you can focus on 
anything is what I really need 

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is some more noise. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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OK. 
What I need to do is amp that 

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By the way, I have learned to 

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love the car. 
Now that I have learned the 

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drift, it's I I'm just running 
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we drift everywhere. 
I still need to make that we 

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core. 
That said, we have a lot that 

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we're going to get more 
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the season of the raids of the 
Delves and everything, and we'll

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get more into those. 
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This is very early. 
So I'd like to shift the 

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conversation a bit to our first 
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And do we have a world first 
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Wait, no, that's not right, 
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Sean, do you want to tell us 
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Yeah, so today as of recording, 
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server, EU Silver Moon has had 
haven't been having connection 

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issues all day long and nobody 
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a server wide message went out 
that said congratulations to I 

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don't have the guild's name in 
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Something something QA squad or 
something like that. 

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Hold on, I can get it. 
So they were announced as having

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a kill for Chrome King 
Galliwicks and being the 1st in 

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the Hall of Fame and 1st kill 
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And they were officially at the 
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they were two of eight mythic. 
So this Guild whose average item

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level was like 479, they were 
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on fresh accounts, apparently 
went into the raid, killed the 

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first boss. 
However they killed it had some 

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exploit that got them to 
Galliwicks and were able to kill

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him. 
And obviously Blizzard has come 

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up and said hey, this was a they
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this as was not intended. 
We're removing the kill, we're 

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taking actions against the 
osiada yada. 

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But here's my question if what 
they did to kill Galliwicks 

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didn't one shot him and instead 
because sometimes, most times 

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when a when a boss has a secret 
mythic phase, they'll hit a 

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health point where it triggers 
and then it always triggers and 

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then they could go on 
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If this team got in there and 
did this exploit and were able 

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to trigger a secret mythic phase
which everybody expects there 

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is, they might now have 
information that would be of 

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worth quite amount of money to 
world first race teams if they 

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recorded this. 
So it's the next point that was 

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done, but I wonder if that 
footage will be bought by any of

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the racing. 
Teams, that is very scary. 

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That is fruit of the tainted 
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I'm hoping, you know, on one 
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hand. 
Would that count? 

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It's not how how is it, It's to 
watch somebody's VOD. 

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Well, to watch the VOD of 
somebody who like. 

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Yeah, you're benefiting from an 
exploit, but you're not 

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exploiting yourself. 
So you yourself are not 

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exploiting, you're just 
benefiting from an exploit. 

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It is technically. 
I'm just watching the video 

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we've. 
Just got the question. 

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Technically fine. 
It's actually fine. 

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It is morally bankrupt. 
And if the team wins by doing 

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this and like honestly, they 
could probably sell it to like 

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the top four or five teams 
running to and sell it over and 

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over and over again or be like 
pay us more or we're going to, 

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we're going to sell it to your 
competitor. 

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Like it. 
It could be a bidding war, could

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be a bunch of things if this 
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I think if it does exist 
Blizzard should just release a 

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video themselves. 
Just be like, oh you want to get

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money off your exploit? 
They wouldn't know. 

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They wouldn't know. 
Why would why would they tell 

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Blizzard that they're trying to 
do this profiteering? 

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Well, first of all, don't most 
of the like like Max for 

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example, is pretty like gets a 
lot of benefit from Blizzard 

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right? 
Am I tripping out not benefits 

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That sounds wrong but like he's 
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Connected. 
There's goodwill. 

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There's goodwill between him and
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So there there would be an 
inherent benefit of those teams 

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to report bad behavior to 
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thing is they could, you know, 
it, It's it's if you're not. 

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I mean, honestly, I would feel 
skeezy if I learned that team 

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won because they bought a video 
from somebody who didn't 

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exploit. 
I don't know, maybe I'm a baby. 

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How is that different from 
watching video of your 

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competitor who's playing ahead 
of you? 

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Because then everyone has. 
I think everyone should have 

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access to the same like either 
people should earn information 

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themselves or they should have. 
Everyone should have access to 

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the same information. 
So if your competitors playing 

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that game, then they inherently 
have access to the same 

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information that you have 
because you're watching them. 

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If you get your foot in the door
first, you have access that 

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information because you earned 
it. 

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If you spend money to get 
information from somebody who is

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only giving that information to 
certain people, and who got that

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information through an exploit, 
not through earning it, that 

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feels skeevy. 
Well, yeah, it's skeevy, but 

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like, let me just say this. 
Say this 2 two points to this 

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one is that teams go dark and 
race the world first all the 

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time to deny information to 
their competitors. 

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So they're totally fine. 
They aren't black boxing 

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information. 
Yeah, that's totally OK, right? 

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They aren't. 
They are not through their own 

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work, but continue. 
Two, this very tier, multiple 

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people found an exploit to get 
into the renowned track and push

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that this this tier, which was 
clearly the next point. 

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So they're not above using 
exploits directly those two 

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together, right? 
As long as they field they OK. 

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It wasn't, but like it was 
unintended bug. 

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I apologize. 
Not a direct exploit. 

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They did it and they the people 
who found it reported it right 

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away and Blizzard reset it. 
Like it wasn't like they were 

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trying to hide it. 
They reported to Blizzard. 

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Hey this is you can if you go 
into the raid early you could 

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talk to this guy. 
I will say I think the bigger 

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and maybe I'm maybe I'm looking 
for problems. 

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I think that there's something 
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like this patch has been messier
than like this bugs at the 

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beginning of a patch, but I feel
like this patch has been messier

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than most patches. 
Am I making that up? 

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Wasn't there like a big one in? 
There was. 1. 

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There, Yeah, there was one patch
in in recent times that launched

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and you couldn't do Mythic Plus 
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They had to turn Mythic Plus 
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So it's I, I, I every patch that
comes out, somebody makes a 

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tweet that says this is the 
buggiest patch we've had ever, 

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because recency bias, that's how
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And every time that tweet comes 
out lo fi banshee on Twitter 

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posts a response with like a 
list of other patches that were 

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recent that were completely 
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It's like in this patch you 
couldn't upgrade any gear for 

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two weeks. 
In this patch, you couldn't do 

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anything plus for three. 
That's why. 

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So it is subjective. 
I I agree it does feel actually 

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other than the latency, I 
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any issues myself. 
But I know people have said 

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there are issues. 
But again, all my time is spent 

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in dungeons. 
So no, but he, so here's my, 

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here's my, my, I don't want to 
say rebuttal. 

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It's not a rebuttal. 
But here's here's where my head 

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is. 
These teams are companies. 

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They're organizations who make 
money and they make more money 

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when they win. 
Do they not have a 

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responsibility to themselves and
the players to do everything 

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they can to make sure they win? 
And if not necessarily 

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everything they can to make sure
they win? 

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You have to assume your 
competitors are going to do this

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too. 
So now you're going in and 

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you're, if you decide not to 
pursue getting this, this 

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footage, you're actively saying 
I'm OK if the other team has an 

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advantage over me because I 
would expect that the other team

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is going to do it because I 
would do anything to win. 

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So if I was in their position. 
First of all, can I just say if 

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you do go into that with the 
mindset of my, the other team 

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has an advantage and I'm just 
going to tolerate it because I'm

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a more honest player. 
Boss shit. 

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Sorry, Manny, but I mean first, 
like I, I, I guess I would argue

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that when it comes to 
competitive games, not just 

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competitive gaming, but 
competitive games in general, I 

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think that the obligation is not
to attempt to win by any means 

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necessary. 
It's to have an in like to to 

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present to the audience watching
an interesting and exciting and 

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honest game, right? 
If, if the the goal was to win 

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by any means necessary, then 
every team should be looking for

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opportunities to cheat at every 
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If that's the the ultimate moral
goal of a team engaging in a 

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sport is to win. 
I and I think that we all kind 

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of agree. 
That's not, and I, I, I guess 

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it's fuzzy because like I, I 
hear you that like what's the 

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rule that's being broken? 
And that's why I think the 

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Blizzard knows the back door 
that these people went in. 

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And they probably like if, if, 
if they did find like, I, I 

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can't imagine that nobody was 
recording that a video of that 

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even just for their own funsies,
right? 

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So I think that if Blizzard 
knows that based on the back 

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door that they went in, there is
likely a VOD of the secret 

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mythic phase. 
I think they should release it. 

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I think Blizzard should release 
it. 

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I think that like not like the 
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I'm sure that there's a Blizzard
employee who did testing who has

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video of the secret mythic phase
put it. 

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Up I I suspect I mean like in 
terms of what Blizzard can do 

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yes like these these big guilds,
these these orgs have 

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connections with Blizzard. 
It would be fine for Blizzard to

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be like we know a video is 
floating out out there. 

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We're giving you all just like a
quick video that of when we were

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testing it so that they have 
saying you don't, you don't have

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to buy it just to cut the the 
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Yes, right, and to like give 
some level playing field to the 

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to the race in general. 
But I would hand that video out 

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behind closed doors and I would 
be handing it out to like the 

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teams that are like, you know, 
the top five teams when the 

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first team reaches there, right?
Be like, Hey, guys, just so you 

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know, once once the first team 
reaches there, we're going to 

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give you this video, right, and 
give and let the top five teams 

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know beyond the top five teams. 
I don't think anybody else is 

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going to care to buy that video 
because they will see the other 

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team streaming it. 
So they don't need they don't 

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need it and they're not going to
catch up anyways. 

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And I think that's how you you 
limit the information because 

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some people don't want to see 
the hidden, the hidden phase 

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before before getting there. 
But like the more the most 

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competitive teams. 
Sure. 

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All right, you know what? 
Fortunately this is how we're 

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going to do it. 
But like, these are new accounts

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that were in Grays that was like
a four man. 

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It wasn't even a full raid team.
It was a four man team in Grays 

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that busted like wall hack to 
get through there because they 

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only killed 2 bosses out of the 
8 bosses. 

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So they didn't work their way 
through it, right? 

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So like. 
What footage they provide is 

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going to be incredibly limited. 
Right? 

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Like they would have gotten 
squashed as soon as they tried 

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to tank. 
Yeah, that that's also kind of 

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why I, I think that a lot of 
this depends on what Blizzard 

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knows they actually did to 
exploit their way in. 

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Because I like even even if you 
only have like the last 30 

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seconds of a kill, a myth like 
a, a heroic boss is difficult to

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like get that final, you know, 
push done right. 

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So I, I do kind of think they've
probably exploited it to death. 

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Like I, I think that it probably
wasn't like you type in the 

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number and you go in and it's 
like, like I, I, I think they 

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just. 
Yeah, no, they definitely, it 

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was definitely exploited. 
They used an internal spell. 

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Blizzard released a blue post on
it. 

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They they were using an internal
spell to to to kill these 

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bosses. 
But when bosses have a mythic 

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phase, like you'll see the start
of that phase it it would get to

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it and then stop, right? 
It it hard, hard triggers it, 

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like with gold Diane or with the
jailer. 

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You can't one shot those bosses 
because it triggers their mythic

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phase no matter what. 
Gotcha. 

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I don't know how you you 
wouldn't be able to see the 

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mythic phase play out like as if
you were a team pulling it. 

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But any information you can get 
is is good information, right? 

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Yeah. 
That's why I would say like it's

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limited the information they can
give because like and they use a

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command. 
The let's say the mythic phase 

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starts at 20%. 
If the boss doesn't drop to 0, 

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the boss hits that 20 wall. 
It hard stops for a second, it 

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jumps into the phase and then 
they they would have to then use

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the ability again because again,
fresh, fresh Max level 

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characters in greys. 
They're going to start getting 

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one shot. 
You're barely going to see 

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anything and then still secure 
that kill. 

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And they were probably going in 
to be like, hey, let's do this 

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to show that we can not, not to 
like, try and exploit as much 

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money unless they were using 
multiple commands, including 

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like, make all our characters 
invincible so the boss doesn't 

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do damage so that we could sell 
this. 

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But that's a lot more control. 
And then Blizzard also needs to 

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like, he's probably going to 
have to go and be like, OK, we 

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need to change these commands so
they can't be be used at this 

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level, that sort of stuff to 
like lock this stuff down. 

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Because also selling the use of 
those commands is also a very 

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big thing as well. 
So there's a lot of security and

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how they got this that needs to 
be looked at. 

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Tinfoil hat theory we did. 
We find out it was one of the 

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top three teams that paid these 
guys to exploit to get the 

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footage. 
Oh, OK. 

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I, I will say, I will say on the
one hand, I think that the moral

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obligation of team competitive 
sports is to give a good show to

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the the viewers, right? 
That's something I will live and

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die on. 
I will say some Fun Tea is also 

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a good show. 
Like I'm going to say flat out 

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that the moral imperative of 
these organizations doesn't 

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exist because they are these big
orgs. 

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They are not the grassroots 
teams that they used to be. 

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They are, they are international
orgs that are running multiple 

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games with multiple teams. 
And so like their priority is to

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make capital their their 
priority beyond that is to get 

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first place because that serves 
their primary capital, which is 

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their primary goal, which is to 
get capital. 

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So like, it's not just that they
have the dilemma where that Sean

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pointed out where it's like, 
hey, if we don't take this 

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advantage, somebody else is 
going to. 

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And if two teams do, we can't be
like, hey, we're the 1st place 

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Moral Guild, but we're 4th 
overall. 

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Like it's just it doesn't sell, 
right? 

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Like. 
It's just sponsors don't care. 

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Can I, can I sell, do a quick 
little hot take That's I'm sure 

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you guys are gonna just 
absolutely demolish within 3 

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seconds of it coming out of my 
mouth. 

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If you've already defeated 
yourself, go ahead. 

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I'm so excited. 
I think that given that E sports

448
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,280
and I also, by the way, before 
anyone says that I have read 

449
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,640
plain ice, I know that this is 
kind of attempted a little bit. 

450
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,440
I get it, I get it, but because 
E sports are at this point an 

451
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,040
actual sport, right, A a 
professional sport to the degree

452
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,920
that it is, I think that the 
race world first should have 

453
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,880
some degree of the protections 
that at least American sports 

454
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,520
have. 
I know that the British are 

455
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,640
going to be like you guys do 
what, but where teams have a 

456
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,920
certain amount of money and 
they're capped with that amount 

457
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,000
of money that they can use to 
pay for for different players. 

458
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,240
There's things like drafts where
people are getting, you know, 

459
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,360
traded between teams, especially
since in this case, it wouldn't 

460
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,480
be as harmful as like, you know,
or not harmful, but like as 

461
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,400
disruptive as a draft in 
physical sports where you have 

462
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,360
to physically move to your new 
city since it's all video games 

463
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,360
and make it so that teams that 
are competing for these, you 

464
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,800
know, the race world first or 
other things like that have 

465
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,720
equalizing factors. 
Partially because Oh my God, I 

466
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,720
am so sick. 
I am so sick of the names liquid

467
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,880
and echo. 
If, if, if nobody else can even 

468
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,040
actively realistically compete, 
Like if everyone else is 

469
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,440
meaningful for the first like 2 
rounds and then immediately 

470
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,320
wipes out. 
It's not a sport, It's a, it's a

471
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,240
reality show kind of right. 
Like, come on, give me actual 

472
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,840
competition. 
Give me like Genuine, you know, 

473
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,520
Oh, we don't know who's gonna 
like, let me root for another 

474
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,360
team and have that not be like, 
genuinely just ridiculously 

475
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,160
stupid, right? 
Make it an actual sport with 

476
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,400
actual team dynamics that make 
it so that people who are not 

477
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280
one of the two top teams have an
actual shot of winning 

478
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,440
sometimes. 
The only way that can happen, 

479
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,200
and it can happen, but the only 
way that can happen is for 

480
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,560
Blizzard to internalize the race
to World. 

481
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,120
First you need an overarching 
body and then yes, Echo can be 

482
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:45,960
in there and and Liquid can be 
in there and that can happen. 

483
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760
But like that doesn't work most 
of the time. 

484
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,640
The Overwatch League is a very 
prime example of Blizzard trying

485
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,360
to do something like that and it
not working. 

486
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,640
They had seeded teams in a bunch
of cities and you had like the 

487
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,200
fireflies and like whatever team
in your local city and they 

488
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,360
tried to make it the same way 
and there wasn't enough return 

489
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,000
on investment for them to like 
support that. 

490
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,640
Like it has to be these outside 
orgs that are playing across 

491
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,560
multiple games. 
And in that, in that scenario, 

492
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,320
yeah, they will drop teams and 
they will drop entire games 

493
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,040
because they're like, yeah, we 
don't get the the return 

494
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000
investment. 
So it's either Microsoft and 

495
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,880
Blizzard by proxy putting up a 
lot of cash to keep four teams 

496
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,120
afloat, or the teams will 
continue to cannibalize 

497
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,040
themselves. 
Like like over the course of 

498
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,680
World of Warcraft, these teams 
have cannibalized themselves, 

499
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,880
getting the best players to to 
centralized until we've reached 

500
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,440
the point where it is basically 
one major team in each region 

501
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,040
and that's it. 
Yeah, but wouldn't it be fun? 

502
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,240
I mean, technically it wouldn't 
have to be Blizzard. 

503
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,640
The teams could, if they decided
to give me a better show, they 

504
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,720
could. 
And I, I, you could, I, I, it 

505
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,880
probably wouldn't actually work,
but I could try very hard to 

506
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,000
make a very good financial 
argument for why the teams would

507
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,120
benefit. 
Because, you know, if there's 

508
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,760
actual, the more competition 
there is, the more sponsors you 

509
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,480
can get, the more people are 
actually going to want to tune 

510
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,760
in, the more interesting it is 
to watch. 

511
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,840
So hypothetically, you could say
that, you know, these teams 

512
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,880
could go together and decide 
within themselves to make an 

513
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280
organizing body and it would be 
so much more fun to watch. 

514
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,560
I, I would have a side episode 
about this cause like, there's, 

515
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000
there's a lot in there, but I, I
do want to give Sean the final 

516
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,160
word. 
You and I have been going back 

517
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,400
and forth on this. 
Sean, what, what do you got to 

518
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,880
say on this? 
I agree. 

519
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,200
Like it would be awesome if 
there was like a league and 

520
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,520
teams and drafts. 
And the biggest hurdle is there 

521
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:51,320
is very little money in Warcraft
E sports, whether that be NBITGP

522
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,440
or AWC or the race world first 
in which there's so little that 

523
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,800
there's only really two teams 
that could be supported by it. 

524
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,960
Like BD, there was a 13 BDG or 
well three teams of include 

525
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,760
method. 
We had four teams at one point. 

526
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,720
But BDG I'm pretty sure lost all
of their backing because there's

527
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,520
so little money to be made in 
sponsoring A-Team. 

528
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,120
That's not first. 
So then nobody puts money into 

529
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,560
it. 
For us to have a league, there 

530
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,560
would have to be an overarching 
source of income. 

531
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,360
Like the NFL has owners. 
It's not the the league itself 

532
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,160
is owned by the owners of the 
teams. 

533
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,560
So we would need to have people 
of massive wealth own these orgs

534
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,520
and then make a league from it 
and then generate rules based on

535
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,800
that. 
And well, I think it would be 

536
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,680
great. 
I think most of the people in 

537
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,640
these orgs are not wealthy to 
the point that they could do 

538
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,440
that. 
So what ultra wealthy person 

539
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,200
wants to marry me so that we can
I can use your money to develop 

540
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,360
this system and also to do good 
for the world? 

541
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800
And you can't be evil, which 
means you probably don't have 

542
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,480
enough money to do this. 
OK, I ruined. 

543
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,840
It I'm an ultra wealthy. 
If you are interested in 

544
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,280
marrying Lex though, go ahead 
and join us in the discord LY 

545
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,440
slash. 
Fast Discord No and no. 

546
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,400
Let us know, just DM her 
directly with a picture of your 

547
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,280
bank statement. 
Oh yeah, do that. 

548
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,120
Include your social, make sure 
that that's on there somewhere 

549
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,200
and your full number and your 
PIN. 

550
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920
And if you're already in the 
fast discord and ultra wealthy 

551
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:29,120
then you can DM me. 
Or Azrov does not condone trophy

552
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,400
husbands. 
Sean will not be rented out at 

553
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,680
on any case, nor will Lex let me
make sure that I am covering. 

554
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,600
All of that I'm saying I want to
get get married to somebody so I

555
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,600
can use their money to make like
other than that, it'll just be, 

556
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,520
you know, I'll get a kind of 
nightly an OK house. 

557
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,680
I don't even want a nice house. 
I just want like an average 

558
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,800
house and then spend all of my 
time developing the E sports. 

559
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,600
OK, so moving from 1 horrific 
future into another, yes, we've 

560
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:07,280
got news about 11 point 1.5, 
which includes the return of 

561
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Horrific Visions. 
Now, Sean, I know so many times 

562
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,040
you have said Horrific Visions 
were one of the best, if not the

563
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,800
best piece of content that World
of Warcraft has to offer. 

564
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,600
So I know that this is great for
you. 

565
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,400
Tell us what's happening in 11 
point 1.5, and of course start 

566
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,200
with that. 
Heroic Visions. 

567
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,960
This. 
So the Blizzard released a 

568
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,120
article, a post, a look to the 
future about what's coming at 11

569
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,080
point 1.5 and Horrific Visions, 
which is what I thought I was 

570
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,720
going to be most excited about, 
ended up being the thing I am 

571
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,800
second most excited about. 
Horrific Visions are coming 

572
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,800
back. 
It is back in Stormwater and 

573
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Orgamar now. 
I get it. 

574
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,640
These types of things are going 
to reusing stuff. 

575
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,960
We can't be upset that they're 
using stuff. 

576
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,280
We want content. 
They're giving us content, even 

577
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,760
if it's an updated to it, it 
doesn't mention anything about 

578
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,560
the cloak or the part of what 
made her revisions fun was the 

579
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,680
insanity portion of it, where 
you needed the power up that 

580
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,880
cloak and in order to stay 
longer and then the more stuff 

581
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,320
that you stacked on, the harder 
it became. 

582
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,400
So that's not coming back. 
But they are bringing the masks 

583
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,800
back, which added difficulty to 
the horrific visions. 

584
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,040
So I'm excited for that and it 
says that you can go alone in 

585
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,440
them to experience it or if you 
need help in a party. 

586
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,960
So alone or in a party or you 
can also include a companion 

587
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,480
from a construct of Soridormy. 
So I guess you can bring in a 

588
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,000
brand to help you in these. 
Maybe this will. 

589
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,960
Shut up and stop dragging ass. 
Maybe. 

590
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,560
Did you do the opening to the 
season 2 of delves where you 

591
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,680
play as brand and the only 
action buttons you have are to 

592
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,960
tell your companion not to stand
in the webs? 

593
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,760
No, I. 
Mean, I love that your companion

594
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,600
is also Johnny Awesome. 
He's just. 

595
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800
Like who? 
Could we possibly hate more than

596
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,280
Brand right now? 
Johnny Awesome. 

597
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,720
But something that is surprising
to me is that the Herded Fisher 

598
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,600
actually going to drop gear up 
to heroic difficulty. 

599
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,960
But I want to be super clear for
everybody. 

600
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,800
It's coming out with 11 point 
1.5. 

601
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,200
This is a catch up mechanic so 
please don't expect to get some 

602
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,040
deep lore cuts out of Stormwind 
and Orgermar that you know 

603
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800
unveiling some secret of bonus 
off. 

604
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,000
It's a it's a .5 patch with 
ketchup mechanic gear. 

605
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Please please lore fans. 
Except that this exists. 

606
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,240
I'm going to have a very. 
I think I'm going to put out 

607
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,560
some form of long form COM 
content that is about story. 

608
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,800
But separate from this, I like 
that they're adding in 

609
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,160
additional mass. 
I like that you can gain 

610
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,880
cosmetics from the past as well 
as new cosmetics. 

611
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
And like with the with the mass,
like remember, you could like 

612
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,560
for those who don't remember, 
rather you got to the highest 

613
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,840
difficulty, you could put on 
mass to add in these additional 

614
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,520
challenges. 
And you could put on multiple 

615
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,159
masks. 
And if you put on all the masks,

616
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,560
there was an achievement for 
beating both the storm inversion

617
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,840
and the orgimar version with all
the masks on, because the masks 

618
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,960
added additional, I, I guess 
affixes. 

619
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,320
They were, they were kind of 
like proto affixes. 

620
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:29,280
So new masks or new affixes. 
And in fact, that means that 

621
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,760
like, hey, maybe you stack them 
up to like, let's say it's three

622
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,679
more masks. 
So you have like 8 masks going 

623
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,719
and you're like, OK, this is 
this to me means that like, 

624
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,880
yeah, you don't need to 
necessarily grind your cloak to 

625
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,320
get the additional difficulty. 
You can just unlock mask and 

626
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,400
then that's the increase in 
difficulty. 

627
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,920
So this will go to like it's not
quite linear increase in 

628
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,040
difficulty because you could 
wear mask A and mask B, or you 

629
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,120
could wear just mask A or just 
mask B or mask A and C and so 

630
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,520
forth. 
So like there's permutations of 

631
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,560
that. 
And of course, like some guide 

632
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,400
writers going to be like, well, 
this is the hardest one and this

633
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,760
is the easiest one. 
And these are with everything in

634
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,600
between. 
But like we'll leave that for 

635
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,280
some other content created to 
create the tier list. 

636
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,560
I do think that this will be 
great to like give that extra. 

637
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,880
Difficulty. 
They do mention that sanity that

638
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,560
you're like. 
The sanity is still a thing you 

639
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,800
have to balance. 
Yeah, so started as like as if 

640
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,520
you had a Max cloak. 
So you have like that is your 

641
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,960
base point or whatever their 
base point is. 

642
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,000
You're not just you're not going
to. 

643
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,640
I think one of the reasons that 
people originally disliked this 

644
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,880
was. 
Because they're bad. 

645
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,800
No, because it was a required 
grind. 

646
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,480
That was a chore that you had to
do in order to get into the raid

647
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,640
and so like it as its own play 
loop, I think is a great play 

648
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,240
loop. 
It was so much fun and if you 

649
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,280
enjoyed that, it wasn't really a
chore. 

650
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,560
But for the people who just 
wanted to raid or had limited 

651
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,360
time, this was a dish. 
This was like Tor gas, Tor Gas. 

652
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,200
I loved when you just did it for
the fun. 

653
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,160
I loved how it ended up when I 
never had to actually go there. 

654
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,160
I was just doing it to like get 
the cosmetics and stuff. 

655
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,800
I hated it when it was like this
weekly. 

656
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400
OK, I have to push further. 
I have to push further. 

657
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,480
And I think that's what the same
thing that happened with 

658
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Visions. 
It was because it was so much 

659
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,080
part of that system that people 
didn't like it. 

660
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,720
And I'm really glad to see it 
come back. 

661
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,120
But Lex, did you play a lot 
during Cataclysm or not? 

662
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,320
Cataclysm, Sorry, I apologize a 
lot. 

663
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,520
When did this come out? 
BFA. 

664
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,600
Yeah, I did. 
I don't. 

665
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,880
I remember doing horrific 
visions. 

666
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,200
I think for me, it really was 
kind of a like required chore. 

667
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,800
And I think that that was kind 
of when I was hitting a bit of a

668
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,440
raid logging point. 
So I'm excited to get a chance 

669
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,400
to because now that I've heard 
Sean talk endlessly about how 

670
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,040
lovely and perfect horrific 
visions are, I'm excited to get 

671
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,640
a chance to try them again and 
see how you know and, and also 

672
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,960
get to have fun. 
And I will say I do really like 

673
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,480
solo content. 
I'm finding, I'm also finding 

674
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,880
that it's a great thing to do if
you work from home because you 

675
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,880
can just, you know, pop into a 
little little thing. 

676
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,800
Not that I'd ever do that, boss.
Don't worry about it. 

677
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,440
I've never committed time. 
Alex's boss, if you're 

678
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,480
listening, I've never seen her 
online on bnet during working 

679
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,480
hours, Yeah. 
Never. 

680
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,400
I would never do that. 
I would never do that. 

681
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,440
Not on Wow. 
Mostly, it's a rumble. 

682
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,960
But if you have access to any 
footage of the Galliwick's 

683
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,960
mythic, I could potentially 
provide logs of Lexus being at 

684
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,720
usage through the working day. 
You can reach me at bit dot 

685
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,840
Hawaii slash fast Discord. 
Well, Manny, see, The thing is 

686
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,920
that now now we all know that 
everyone's a liar because, 

687
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,720
Manny, I haven't played Rumble 
in, like, months. 

688
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,080
Oh, wow. 
OK, yeah. 

689
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,160
I mean, it's ruined. 
There you go. 

690
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,080
But you're you're looking 
forward to this. 

691
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,440
I mean that you're going to be 
getting old cosmetics along with

692
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,360
the new cosmetics if you're you 
were really just doing it to 

693
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,840
power up your cloak. 
Yeah, I'm very excited, although

694
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,800
I'm also really excited to hear 
what Sean's most exciting thing 

695
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,680
was. 
OK. 

696
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,280
Was actually. 
There's actually. 

697
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,800
Three things in this list that I
was excited about. 

698
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,120
The first one, so first thing 
I'll just say there's a new 

699
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,360
scenario coming. 
You get a new faction, you're 

700
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,280
going to do some fighting and 
get some trans mug great helping

701
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,800
the Rathi. 
Not excited about that one. 

702
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Number two was terrific Visions.
We talked about that. 

703
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,040
I'll tell you what the third 
thing I'm excited about is, and 

704
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,160
then I'll tell you the thing I'm
most excited about the third. 

705
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,360
UI upgrades. 
Which I think is neat is the UI 

706
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,240
updates and but the UI updates 
specifically is that they're 

707
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:45,160
introducing a cooldown manager. 
Everybody and their dog uses 

708
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,520
weak or A packs right now to 
track their cooldowns in the 

709
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,720
center of their bar. 
Or you use what was it called? 

710
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:54,120
Tap a talk Build-a-bear. 
Kelly, tell me. 

711
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,360
When tell me when you tell me 
when people use tell me when to 

712
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,240
make their own Blizzard, it 
sounds like is implementing 

713
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:06,600
their own way to make a week or 
a package to track your 

714
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,920
cooldowns and you can 
personalize with the other mode.

715
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,040
I'm excited with that. 
Listen, I'm all for if Blizzard 

716
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,120
can get to the I just if you're 
listening Fasdev my 1:00 ask the

717
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,920
biggest, not the biggest, 
because there's lots of things 

718
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,200
that need to be added to make 
the UI, the Blizzard UI better 

719
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,360
than add-ons do not require 
add-ons, but one of the number 

720
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,600
one things I have to ask is let 
me turn my nameplate frames off.

721
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,120
I just wanted to be a bar with 
health and a name. 

722
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,680
I don't need the picture. 
I don't need the bubble and I 

723
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,560
understand it's gorgeous. 
Near king did a great job with 

724
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,440
it. 
A lot of people like that. 

725
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:42,840
I don't need that. 
Let me turn that off. 

726
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,960
Let me just I wrote a small add 
on myself that that deleted that

727
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:50,960
portion in the war within beta 
anyway, it doesn't matter. 

728
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Dragonfly beta not important. 
What is important? 

729
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,920
Fasdev, if you're listening, the
one thing that would make the UI

730
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,800
better for me would be if I was 
looking at it as a murloc. 

731
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,000
Yeah, yeah. 
Or if you were exceptionally 

732
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,520
wealthy and you had some 
altruism in you, you wanted to 

733
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,360
that. 
Sure. 

734
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,800
That would also make it better. 
Yeah, I think that the. 

735
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,320
Name Lex and Fasdev, name a 
better name, a better duo. 

736
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,800
I will the dancerley duo which 
is my number one favorite thing 

737
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,080
coming in 11.5. 
All the rush. 

738
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Yeah, all the PV players who 
were like, I don't want to have 

739
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,520
to plunder Storm. 
PDP is not for me. 

740
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
And I would admit I was one of 
those people at first. 

741
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,400
Now there's a thing that PvP 
players can say. 

742
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,760
I don't want to have the Pve. 
It's boss rush for parties of 

743
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,920
people and for cosmetics. 
That's it. 

744
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Give me that transmog. 
I can't wait. 

745
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560
I hope it's fun. 
You know what this? 

746
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Is that's what I'm most excited 
about. 

747
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,400
It's a boss rush to actually do 
those, yeah. 

748
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,520
But you know what this is? 
It's 11 point 1.5. 

749
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:02,800
Appeasement. 
It is the very end, like the the

750
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,000
death kneel of the Brawlers 
Guild. 

751
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,560
This is the, I guess, spiritual 
successor to the Brawlers Guild 

752
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,480
like we used to. 
Like all they needed, really 

753
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,160
needed to do was bring the 
Ballers Guild back and add 

754
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,160
additional cosmetics to it. 
But they've reinvented it as 

755
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,880
this dastardly duo thing, and 
they're bringing. 

756
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,920
Back Guild was solo wasn't it? 
Yeah, but like you could, you 

757
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160
could easily add on to the 
Brawlers Guild, be like, hey, 

758
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,560
we're making it bigger and 
better. 

759
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,880
Then we gotta have. 
Then we're gonna have the 

760
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,840
Brawlers Guild traditional 
screaming at it. 

761
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,000
They're allowing parties in 
there. 

762
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:37,680
Yeah. 
So like both of. 

763
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Them are going to be upset. 
This is basically like the 

764
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,200
brawlers Guild where it is this 
is this is a boss they're going 

765
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,680
to probably. 
I would hope that after 11 point

766
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,920
1.5, as we move into a new 
expansion, they refresh the boss

767
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,880
list and that we can we can do 
this. 

768
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Do we I, I like it's, it's 
strange that it's like in 

769
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,800
Dornagal and in the capital 
cities. 

770
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:11,520
To me that seems like something 
that they're doing as a what 

771
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,880
would we call this? 
A Evergreen sort of function 

772
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,120
where it's not actually in those
cities, it just teleports you to

773
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,280
the arena, whatever. 
Like the the NPC that's like, 

774
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,840
who do you want to face? 
And it's like, OK, I want to 

775
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,920
face Arthus. 
And then you get teleported to. 

776
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,560
I I think it's in the capital 
cities in Dornegal because it's 

777
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,760
going to be scaled and level 
won't matter and gear won't 

778
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,080
matter is my guess. 
And that's why they're putting 

779
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,920
them there. 
OK. 

780
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,440
I think that obviously it's not 
going to just be scaled. 

781
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,120
They're going to have to make 
mechanical changes. 

782
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,640
Some of these bosses will be 
like, tank needs to run out and 

783
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,440
you need two people to soak this
and it's like, oh, we've only 

784
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,160
got a team of two, so like, 
obviously. 

785
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,840
They'll change all that, but I 
just I don't think I don't think

786
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,600
this is going to be one of those
things where you just over gear 

787
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,320
it and and dummy it like the 
Legion mage tower that everybody

788
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,840
likes to say was so hard. 
That wasn't after like a month. 

789
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:10,960
I hear you. 
I see you people. 

790
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,240
I'm watching you. 
Oh, I got all the mage tower 

791
00:43:13,240 --> 00:43:15,200
skins. 
Oh congratulations, you were 45 

792
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,360
eye levels above what you should
have been. 

793
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,320
I'm happy for you. 
Enjoy your skins. 

794
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,920
Give them to me on the vendor 
please. 

795
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,200
But I think this is going to be 
like time walking where they're 

796
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,960
going to, they're going to scale
it like probably to the players 

797
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,760
level. 
Yeah, like I. 

798
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,040
Made both my Co host upset. 
They're both Legion mage 

799
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,600
walking. 
Mage tower never touched the 

800
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,880
mate. 
I've literally never. 

801
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,280
I couldn't tell you where the 
mage tower is. 

802
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,200
I don't even know if it's a 
physical location. 

803
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,680
It's in Legion. 
OK. 

804
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,800
I think I know it's in, I know 
it's in Legion, but I don't know

805
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,280
where it is in Legion. 
I don't know how I'd get to it. 

806
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,080
I don't know how you trigger it.
I don't know how you get things 

807
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,880
to start. 
I at this point mage tower is 

808
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,400
just this like nebulous little 
thing that like everyone's like,

809
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,080
oh, the mage tower. 
You guys remember the Beige 

810
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,320
tower? 
And I'm like, didn't I mean I 

811
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,360
know it exists. 
Don't believe her lies, Big mage

812
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,440
tower got to her. 
Yeah, yeah, she's she's been 

813
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:16,720
bought out by the Karen tour. 
Anyways, I think that like the 

814
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,880
mage tower had its place. 
I like that this is is there. 

815
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,480
I'm glad to see this as like a 
way that you can scale with with

816
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,640
a group where it's like, yeah, I
just want to go with my with my 

817
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,600
friend or like, let's get it 
grouped together. 

818
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:37,240
Like Oh my goodness guys, we 
completed case KSH it's day 

819
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,360
three like what else are we 
going to do? 

820
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,840
And then you start doing it. 
You start doing this like more 

821
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,120
contents. 
Always good people can enjoy 

822
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:51,160
this. 
I'm hoping that this scales well

823
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,360
because it because it shifts 
between group sizes. 

824
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,480
That means that this is now in 
the same realm as Dells to me, 

825
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,480
which, going back to what we 
were saying at the beginning, 

826
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Delves this season are way 
easier. 

827
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,240
Like I spent a day and I'm like 
gone through elevens. 

828
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,440
Yes, I'm starting at a much 
higher relative item level than 

829
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,120
I was at the beginning of last 
season. 

830
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,600
So please do not make that an 
apples to apples comparison, but

831
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,000
like to do a day and already be 
going up against like the the 

832
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,840
end and boss. 
And I know some people who have 

833
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:35,280
like bought it on day day one 
that are, that are, aren't like 

834
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,880
the Super high skilled players, 
like those guys are all race the

835
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,320
world first or whatever right 
now. 

836
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,880
So it I, I do feel like the 
delves have sort of lost a bit. 

837
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,840
I do think that like if you put 
out those rewards, hopefully 

838
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,320
they just have ranks of bosses 
and certain bosses are going to 

839
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,840
be super challenge mode and like
yes, it's got a cool chance mog 

840
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,800
to it, but this will kick your 
butt and they don't worry about 

841
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,040
that if it is like a little bit 
more optimal with four players 

842
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,640
than two. 
I, this is my chronic, this is a

843
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,080
little bit of a tangential 
thing, but This is why I was 

844
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,160
always scared Delves were going 
to fail is because Blizzard is 

845
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,200
scared to make solo content 
hard. 

846
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,880
And I need them to get over it. 
I need them to make challenging 

847
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,640
solo content, and I need that to
be like, I need them to 

848
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,200
understand that that is OK 
because otherwise we will never 

849
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,920
have a realistic solo track. 
Yeah. 

850
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,480
So I feel you. 
And I, I, I, I will say they're 

851
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,080
using the Delve technology a 
lot. 

852
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,400
They clearly really like the 
idea of letting you have a 

853
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,960
companion with you. 
And they clearly really like the

854
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,280
idea of letting you do things 
solo and pick things to make it 

855
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,000
possible to do things solo. 
And I am very excited about 

856
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,960
that. 
I just need them to let it be 

857
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,680
hard. 
Yeah. 

858
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,440
So I'm I'm excited for this boss
rush. 

859
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,800
I'm hoping that there's, you 
know what I would really like 

860
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:12,320
leaderboards just put 
leaderboards, put them as like 

861
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,960
you defeated it at X level or 
you defeated it with like that 

862
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,480
fast. 
If like it only capped at a 

863
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,560
certain level, like let's say 
there's like silver, rather like

864
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,200
gold, silver, bronze rankings 
for all these bosses. 

865
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,400
And then at the gold it starts 
like being like time defeated, 

866
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,760
how quickly you defeated it. 
I would love that. 

867
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,760
Then you don't have to like have
it scale indefinitely to make 

868
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,480
it, to make it constant 
challenging content. 

869
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,000
You can have the community start
challenging themselves and 

870
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,520
seeing like how they can do. 
And I'm like, oh man, warrior's 

871
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,240
the best way to do this, this, 
this fight that fast and so 

872
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,240
forth. 
Like I, I think that that might 

873
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:59,120
be the way to sort of make this 
challenging while still making 

874
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,560
it accessible for somebody who 
might not be able to like take a

875
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,480
hit as much as like a protection
warrior, right? 

876
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,000
Like that might be the way to 
go. 

877
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,440
I'm always down for 
leaderboards. 

878
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,840
I'm never. 
Going to be honest guys, they 

879
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,880
mentioned party in every 
situation. 

880
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,600
They don't ever mention any kind
of flex sizing. 

881
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,280
I think this is going to be 5 
man content. 

882
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,960
Yeah, but then Manny mentioned 
Delves and that meant that I 

883
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,120
wanted to talk about Delves 
instead of talking about the 

884
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,000
things that we're talking about 
because I, I become 

885
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,840
uncomfortable when it is not 
about me. 

886
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:33,080
And so I just changed the the 
subject entirely and you know, 

887
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,640
what are you gonna do? 
But but Sean is right, it is you

888
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,440
and your party or the 
companions. 

889
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,360
And I guess the companions would
be more akin to follower 

890
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,520
dungeons then. 
Does this say companions? 

891
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,360
I thought, yeah, you could do it
with a companion here. 

892
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,600
No, that was, that's the 
horrific vision is with a 

893
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,760
companion. 
This is just party. 

894
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,240
This is going to be a five Man 
Group I think. 

895
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,880
OK. 
Lex, I hear you that you want 

896
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,640
Dells to be a challenge, and I 
know that there's a lot of 

897
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:14,280
people who agree with you. 
But the community, the vast 

898
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,160
community as a whole, I think, 
doesn't like when the game is 

899
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,520
too hard for them and they want 
it just to be easy. 

900
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,240
And then when Blizzard listens 
and changes it, then they 

901
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,040
complain and say the game's too 
easy. 

902
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,960
It's almost like I can't be 
certain, but it's almost like 

903
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,720
there's no winning. 
That can't be true, Sean, 

904
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:39,520
because you're telling me that 
it it would be possible that the

905
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,600
World of Warcraft player base 
sometimes just likes to complain

906
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,800
and is looking for problems. 
That can't be true. 

907
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,280
They you're telling me. 
You're telling me that the World

908
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,240
of Warcraft player base as a 
whole is not constantly looking 

909
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:56,080
for ways to be forgiving and 
kind to the devs, are you? 

910
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,520
Next you're going to tell me 
that they can't make a social 

911
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,640
media post without everyone 
flooding it trying to complain 

912
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,360
about there are specific 
character issues that we all 

913
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,320
know needs to be a bug report 
and should not go to the social 

914
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,880
media team. 
I that can't possibly be true. 

915
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,400
Sean, that's insane. 
That's the craziest thing I've 

916
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,080
ever heard. 
Now, you're right, Lex, you're 

917
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:16,720
right. 
It's me. 

918
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,520
I'm I'm the one who's confused. 
Just to head off any complaints 

919
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,200
that we might get, let's let's 
where. 

920
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,520
Can they send those complaints, 
Manny? 

921
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,240
Let's clear the air. 
Let's talk about this 

922
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,880
specifically. 
OK, so the Dashley duos, yes, 

923
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,720
it's a boss rush. 
You're going to be facing two or

924
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,920
more bosses at a time to rack up
a score. 

925
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,000
So there is a scoring system. 
OK, We already talked about how 

926
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,560
there are the three hubs, the 
Stormwind, the Urgamar, the 

927
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Dornigal. 
It is you and a party. 

928
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,240
So as Sean was saying, it's 
likely to be 5 man, five man 

929
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:00,440
content based off of that. 
It's coming out in a six week 

930
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:06,960
event, so in the first week 
you're going to have 4 bosses 

931
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,520
available and then each week 
after additional bosses will be 

932
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,440
added up into a total of 10 
bosses to fight it's. 

933
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:24,240
So one a week. 
Yes now if this is going to be 

934
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:28,720
the trip down memory lane 
because you are going to be 

935
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:36,600
dealing with animatronic 
versions of past bosses, right? 

936
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:44,160
Which bosses would you guys say 
are on your like top list, top 

937
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,680
list of definitely going to show
up and top list of I really wish

938
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,240
this would this would be in 
consideration. 

939
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,800
So for me, because I I'm posing 
the question, I don't want to, I

940
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,240
want to give you guys some time 
to think. 

941
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,880
Definitely going to show up is 
obviously Arthus. 

942
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,800
Like there's no way they go 
through this without having 

943
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,360
Arthus. 
I don't. 

944
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,520
Think it's going to be any raid 
bosses? 

945
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,160
I think it's going to be dungeon
bosses, you think? 

946
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,760
It's going to be all dungeon 
bosses. 

947
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,320
Yeah, none of the raid bosses 
are really conducive to fighting

948
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,400
2 at once, but some dungeon 
bosses you could. 

949
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,880
Yeah you're right, but like I 
don't think you could do 2 

950
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,240
dungeon bosses at once and not 
have to convert them. 

951
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:23,040
So why aren't you just 
converting any boss? 

952
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:28,480
Like I think it's just it's a 
boss from the past and they give

953
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,120
it mechanics that make it look 
like it's that. 

954
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,080
So like yes, it could be from 
dungeons are typically start 

955
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,880
simpler, so there's that and 
easier to convert. 

956
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,080
Okay. 
But I don't I in the sky wish 

957
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,080
list so I won't yuck your Yum. 
Arthus is on Manny's list. 

958
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,440
I feel like I I don't think this
this goes without Arthus, 

959
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,800
probably the 10th boss. 
It's like a Oh my goodness, 

960
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,360
guys. 
And plus it's Wow's 30th 

961
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,320
anniversary. 
This is all in line with that 

962
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,320
going through the past. 
I suspect it's going to be big, 

963
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,320
big hitters. 
Obviously for that reason, a 

964
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,240
boss that I think will not show 
up is Death Wing. 

965
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:11,560
His fight is just no way you fit
that into like anything other 

966
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,120
than the raid, the raid fight. 
So I'm gonna say Deathwing is 

967
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,080
out unless they do human form 
Deathwing 'cause they have the 

968
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,840
model that would be and they've 
used it in avarice, right? 

969
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,400
Could be a thing. 
All right, that's true. 

970
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,520
John, what are you thinking? 
I'd like to see Van Cleef. 

971
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,440
Original Edwin Van Cleef would 
be a fun one to see. 

972
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,920
That's a good fight. 
And he disappeared and I 

973
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,200
actually, I want to thematically
match him up because in his 

974
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,120
fight he vanishes and you have 
to like sort of find him through

975
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,880
the fog. 
I would also like to fight, I 

976
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,600
think it's a bear off or 
something like that. 

977
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,680
It's the second boss in 
Skolamance, the one where you 

978
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,080
pull her and then you fight her 
and then she disappears. 

979
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,240
Spinning thing. 
Yeah, she's a spinning things. 

980
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,560
I like to fight those two 
together. 

981
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Thematically, I'd love Van Cleef
into Van Cleef, a son and it's a

982
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,280
brother, father and daughter. 
So she just and then the 

983
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,560
daughter shows up. 
It's like what? 

984
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,000
What's your name? 
Vanessa, Yeah. 

985
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,880
Vanessa Van Cleef, Yeah. 
And Edwin Van Cleef. 

986
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,240
Yeah. 
Yeah, I would. 

987
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,440
I would dig that. 
That would. 

988
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,680
That would be fun. 
I would like to fight Sean 

989
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,280
because he stole mine. 
I was this fan Cleef. 

990
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,080
Yeah, that was mine. 
I was so prepared to make this 

991
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,120
entire argument. 
I wasn't really. 

992
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,960
I was gonna say I wanted to be 
Van Cleef from Deadlines. 

993
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,720
Who do I actually want? 
I don't know. 

994
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,480
We can see Van Cleflex. 
I can't think of any other 

995
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,080
bosses. 
I've literally I'm out, I'm 

996
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,280
cooked. 
There's no other. 

997
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,240
Hogger. 
I feel like Hogger would be like

998
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:53,640
a very good anniversary boss. 
Like he was around the 

999
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,840
fairgrounds, but you didn't 
actually do anything with him. 

1000
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,960
He was in the stockades when 
they redid the stockades, so 

1001
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,360
they've got all the animations 
and stuff to do him. 

1002
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,320
If we're taking random world 
bosses that aren't. 

1003
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,760
And this is not because I 
actually want this, this is just

1004
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,440
a nostalgia trip. 
I want that little guy who walks

1005
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,720
around. 
Oh God, I can't think of a 

1006
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,080
single word to describe the the 
abomination. 

1007
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,680
Oh yeah. 
Stitches. 

1008
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,400
No. 
Stitches. 

1009
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,280
Yes, that one. 
That one. 

1010
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,640
The one who really wanted to 
have killed me so many times. 

1011
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,960
When I would actually. 
Yeah, right. 

1012
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,200
That's good. 
What's that? 

1013
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,160
What's that? 
Stitches. 

1014
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,680
I thought he was next Ramus boss
only OK I didn't. 

1015
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,560
Know he was. 
Patchwork is the next Ramus 

1016
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,080
boss. 
Stitches is the one that walks 

1017
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,720
the street. 
If we're getting Arthus he 

1018
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:38,800
should be paired with Illidan 
cuz this says you fight two at a

1019
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,560
time so when one dies 
theoretically the next one would

1020
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,240
spawn and come in. 
So what you could do is you 

1021
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:50,000
could start or maybe you end 
that way you could build up to. 

1022
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,440
So you could do like Lady Vash 
and Kalethas and one of them 

1023
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,440
dies, Iladin joins and when one 
of them dies, theoretically 

1024
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,960
Kalethas would die, but one of 
them dies, Arthas comes in. 

1025
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,360
So if you chained it that way or
that's 4 right there. 

1026
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,560
So you go Lady Vash, Kalethas to
start, one of them dies, Iladin 

1027
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,680
comes in, one of them dies, 
Arthas comes in because Arthas, 

1028
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,720
as long as Arthas and Vash 
aren't together, Arthas and Kale

1029
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:14,040
fast work because they both had 
a thing for Jana. 

1030
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,680
Arthas and Iladin work because 
they both fought each other in 

1031
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,280
North Rend. 
Vash and Calf has work because 

1032
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,800
they worked with Illidan, 
Illidan and kill. 

1033
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,800
Sorry, that and Vash and Illidan
work because they work together.

1034
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,400
So all of those work. 
You can do that as a combo. 

1035
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,240
That's fun. 
Now I want to think of combos of

1036
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,800
four that you can chain 
together. 

1037
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,760
And then if you continue it from
there and to up to 10, you could

1038
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,640
go Arthur, Sylvanus and then you
can go Sylvanus and who just 

1039
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,560
Savannah match with well, 
Nathanos, I guess. 

1040
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,360
You could do Jane, throw Jane in
there. 

1041
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,520
She's connected with all of 
them. 

1042
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,240
And she was a raid boss. 
Jane. 

1043
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,880
Yeah. 
I do kind of want to bring 

1044
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,640
Nathanos back just because he 
the the way that we killed him 

1045
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,800
sucked. 
What are we talking about? 

1046
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,200
That man was like a major story 
beat and then he was just gone 

1047
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,560
though. 
No thank you. 

1048
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,840
Bring him back. 
Let me kill him for real. 

1049
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,360
It would be great if the joke is
that it's like the actual and 

1050
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,120
the Thanos and he's like, and 
he's just like, oh crap. 

1051
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,440
And he like flees and they're 
like, whoa, wait, what? 

1052
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,680
That would be like the little 
Easter egg. 

1053
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,760
But I would love to hear from 
the FAZ audience. 

1054
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,480
Which bosses would you want? 
Which bosses do you think would 

1055
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,080
be amazing in the Dangerous 
duos? 

1056
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,840
Write in or join the FAST 
discord at Bit dot LY slash Fast

1057
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Discord and let us know. 
But until next time guys, may 

1058
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,720
all your hits be good.