1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,200 I am just really sad that we're only going to play four of these 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,360 in the first season and then not see them again. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,000 Like think about a dungeon like Stone Vault. 4 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:14,080 Stone Vault was great. We saw it in season 1 and now 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,760 it's gone. And if you didn't get the 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,160 Mountain Season 1, you have to wait until midnight. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,560 For Lauderon. For the Karen Tour for Pandaria. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,320 For calendar. To the burning region. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,240 For Gilnaeus, but has not died for the Lich King. 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,920 For the. Sindora for the Alliance, for 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,840 the Horde, For Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,480 another episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, Manny. 13 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:55,280 I am joined by Lex and Sean, and I've got to ask you guys, 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,800 starting with you, Lex, what in the world did you think of the 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Midnight Cinematic? I thought it was really cool and 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,319 exciting. I was extremely confused about 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,840 it until my guildies explained it to me, so thank you. 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,480 Shout out to them for knowing more. 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,400 But I like the like good vibes. Right? 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,960 Big void Walker or void? Yeah, void Walker. 21 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:18,680 That little guy. I think he's not a void Walker 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,600 because he's not currently being owned by a warlock. 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,120 He was cool. That was sick. 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:31,280 OK, All right, yeah, those like void minions are definitely are 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,760 definitely something new. Like they I have originally 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840 said, oh, they're like fragments of dementias because they've got 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,160 like they're kind of like simplified dementias armor and 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,440 they've got the like glowing hole in the in the chest. 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,800 But like we'll eventually get their their name. 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,920 But they are definitely pawns of Zalatath. 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,760 And so you're right. Yeah, it was a thrilling trailer 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,520 in my, my opinion. But Sean, how did the trailer go 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,000 for you? What are your first impressions 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,200 of the Midnight trailer? I teared up when I saw Leadron 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,560 and then I bawled when that hand came out of the light and 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,200 touched her shoulder. So my first impressions are I 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,880 can't wait. I love the blood elves I first 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,640 swapped to. Like I really I played in 39 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,880 vanilla but I didn't really fall in love with Warcraft until the 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Burning Crusade when I became a blood off ballad. 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,480 And I love silver Moon, I think it's a great city. 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,400 I can't wait to go back. Everything about it just, it 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,800 just filled me with so much hope and then I question why hope 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:39,720 makes me cry. You know, like we had this other 45 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,720 show that Alexa used to do, which was more about Wellness 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,400 and in gaming, but that isn't this show. 47 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,320 So I got to ask you, whose hand do you think that was? 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,000 That's a great question. That's the question on 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:58,880 everybody's mind right now. So if it has to be, I have two 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 answers. Answer one, it's just generic 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,680 random paladin from the players, and that's what the Light center 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,680 was, was paladins from all across Azeroth to help. 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:18,600 And then option 2, which I think would be the best, is it's the 54 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,760 Arathi coming through and it's somebody that we haven't met 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,080 yet, maybe the Emperor, maybe you know, somebody, somebody 56 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,240 from the Arathi line, but not from the Halo fall Arathi, but 57 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,160 somebody from like Aerithor across the ocean and the light 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,920 descending them to fight and rental ash. 59 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,440 OK, I mean that that is that is a guest that I had not heard 60 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,600 before actually. Oh really? 61 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,960 They literally show an Arathi ballot in in one of the shorts. 62 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:54,440 Nobody has thought that yet. No, I, I mean, I've seen like I 63 00:03:54,440 --> 00:04:00,760 have seen images of the concept artwork and I didn't think Arafi 64 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,960 and it's but that it's like the artwork that's in the fast 65 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,200 discord. Is that an Arafi paladin? 66 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Is that what that is? No, but that that's not 67 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,720 specifically, but the music is the same music from Halo Fall 68 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,959 and it's the I'm pretty sure. And it's like there's one of the 69 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:19,680 shorts where there's show like one of those shorts that 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,840 released afterwards, the YouTube shorts when they're cutting 71 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:24,800 through and showing different paladins and when one of them 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,640 front and center is a Colterian woman, which is the the bottle, 73 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,600 the body model for Arathi. And they're they are already 74 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,920 paladins. So yeah, I just assumed that it 75 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,200 was going to be the Arathi coming. 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,000 Is that really not something that everybody is saying they 77 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,360 think it's? Honestly, this is the first time 78 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,840 I've I've heard it. I'll take credit then. 79 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Lex, what's your guess then? Are you with Sean on his theory? 80 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,600 Oh I am not good at like that sort of lore identification. 81 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,240 Like I said, I did need my guildies to explain why this 82 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,040 like clip was meaningful other than the fact that it looked 83 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,560 cool and had like clear deep emotions. 84 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,720 So I've definitely heard the Arafi the most. 85 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Sorry Manny, you can be part of my lore conversations if you 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,920 want, but I I thought I fully thought Anaru was going to come 87 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,960 out of that soul. Well so or Sun. 88 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,840 Well, this is This is why I don't make more predictions. 89 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Yeah, no worries, no worries. So wait, there's there's so many 90 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,840 wells that we're going to be talking about as we go through 91 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:30,480 this. My thought originally was like, 92 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,480 oh, it's like the army, the Army of the Light. 93 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,160 Actually, originally I was like, Oh, is it like Anduin and it and 94 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,720 him bringing back up, you don't really get to see like the 95 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,480 colors and such. So it's like, Oh, maybe it's 96 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,440 like a bunch of storm and nights and be like, Hey, we're standing 97 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,080 together and like hoarded lion sitting side by side in this 98 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,040 moment of need. Then I saw like the concept art 99 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,480 that was thrown in the fast escort. 100 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,720 I mean, I should say bit dot LY slash fast discord if you want 101 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,640 to join those conversations. And so my thought was like, Oh, 102 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:11,160 maybe it's like Terrellian creating a like kids, like the 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,840 army of the light that came from Argus was put underneath to 104 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:17,400 rally in and therefore underneath Stormwind. 105 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,840 Right. And if they do like army of the 106 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:25,720 light paladins that are that are under Trallian control, that 107 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,000 would make a lot of sense. He was in he was in Queldonas 108 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:34,520 for the short story before the head of the war within. 109 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:42,160 He was in, he showed up for a little bit, but everybody shows 110 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,600 up for a little bit, so that means nothing. 111 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,200 And so the other thing is like, later on, we're going to find 112 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,320 out something that points to him being a major character in 113 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Midnight. And so my, my theory, my 114 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,360 standing theory right now is Army of the Light, Taralian 115 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,520 hasn't been coasting during this time of peace. 116 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,120 He's being militarizing and he and now he's his army's coming 117 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,600 to save the day, as it were. There not have been drain iron 118 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,560 in the mix, then they should have the army of the light and 119 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,760 because that what they showed was all humans, which is why I I 120 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,200 I led to air throw because they're very specifically not 121 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 xenophobic, but one they're like there are. 122 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 They're just humans. They are xenophobic. 123 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,840 And a little bit xenophobic. They are xenophobic. 124 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,000 They they're, they're right there with the Red Dawn and the 125 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 like. Hey, listen, if it didn't, it 126 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,320 didn't come from our neck of the world. 127 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,440 So we don't like it. Mine. 128 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,040 I will say my initial thought was Stormwind just because it 129 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,920 was all humans, or at least the only things we saw were human 130 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Stormwind desk models. So that leads us to like, again, 131 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,800 if you're wondering what in the what in the world are they 132 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,480 talking about? What happened, Definitely check 133 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,040 out the the show notes. We've got the link to that 134 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,560 trailer. It was very emotional. 135 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,720 There was like a crisis of faith and everything in there really, 136 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,760 really gets you going, but also comes out of it's like 137 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,040 definitely in the middle of events that we have not got to 138 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,840 yet. And so clearly there's going to 139 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,000 be a lot that leads up to what we're going to see in that 140 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,240 cinematic. And rather than try and guess 141 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,200 that that we've got a lot of information to go through. 142 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:41,760 So let's get right to it. In midnight we are going to be 143 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,240 in Queldonas around Silver Moon City. 144 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,680 This is a fully rebuilt reimagination from reimagining 145 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:52,880 from the ground up of the the zone. 146 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,120 So it is going to be not one for one, not a remaster, not like 147 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,000 just HD graphics. They have like pretty much 148 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,720 expanded the area. The city of Silver Moon is going 149 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,720 to be the like central hub, which means there's going to be 150 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:14,200 both Horde and Alliance in there, but they are going to 151 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,640 remember that it is a Horde city and have some Horde only areas 152 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,560 so. Here's a question for you guys. 153 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,240 Do you think that they're going to do the Drain Eye and Last 154 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,160 Titan or do you think they're just going to say screw you 155 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,760 guys, Burning Crusade? If you wanted to be relevant, 156 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,480 you should have been relevant and only do Silver Moon. 157 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,560 I I think they do Azure mistyle this patch. 158 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,000 It'll happen in midnight. Probably the .5. 159 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,080 Something like that. There's no way they overdo 1 and 160 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,280 not the other. I'm I've flat out, I think 161 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,360 they've, they've said screw it. We're not, we don't care about 162 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,400 like trying to make everything even. 163 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,040 We're just going to do the story and do the things that we we 164 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,160 need to. And like, if you miss out this 165 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,800 time, you miss out this this time, which I'm going to get 166 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,640 back to you because I think there's a number of things along 167 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:11,480 that line. But what we're seeing is that 168 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,280 this entire area has like recovered from the scourge 169 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,240 attack that had originally gone after the sun. 170 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,400 Well, so they've made everything all pretty and nice again, only 171 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,480 to get hit by the void and xylitaph. 172 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:29,120 So man, poor, poor guys. Just when we get that HD remake, 173 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,720 they're under assault again, which means that the Eversong 174 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Woods are going to be back in as the first zone that we'll it 175 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,000 will be in again. That is with this entire rebuilt 176 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,000 redone thing. The Ghostlands have recovered 177 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,560 from from being all scourgy and they're in a much better 178 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:51,120 position. All of that is now like 179 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,400 remastered, and I'm looking forward to that. 180 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,680 From there, there are two additional zones that we'll be 181 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:03,520 able to go to. Zola Mountain, previously just a 182 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,360 just a small little neck of the woods, has been expanded into 183 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,680 its own full-fledged zone and built out. 184 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:17,200 So you're going to see a lot of troll grandeur there, including 185 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,560 the Loa of War and a bunch of new Loa. 186 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:26,360 I love that. And then on the other side, the 187 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,800 other zone that you can go to 2nd is Harandar. 188 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,960 This we know of previously as the root lands. 189 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:41,040 And so there you're going to of course, come across the Harnier 190 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:49,680 and that zone looks kind of like, oh, man, I'm going to say 191 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:57,680 something similar to Dressvar where like all the things are 192 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:00,720 like wrapped up in trees. But this is like a step further, 193 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:07,840 kind of like, oh man, what was the, I think Arden wield? 194 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,080 Sorry, Arden wield is what I was thinking of, where everything is 195 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,480 naturally in to the zone. This is nothing is constructed, 196 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,080 everything is grown or through like a kind of biomancy thing, 197 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,920 which is so cool. Go ahead, Lex. 198 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,920 I say this with so much love. I'm looking at these screenshots 199 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,200 right now. The word you're looking for is 200 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Zynga Marsh. It looks like Zynga. 201 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Marsh. Zynga Marsh, I will say, and I 202 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,320 love Zynga. So I'm like literally, this is 203 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,040 on record my favorite zone, so I'm over the moon. 204 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,640 But I was looking at it. I was like, well, I'm reading 205 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,560 the description and I really would expect it to look more 206 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:43,320 like Zynga Marsh. And I'm looking at it and it's 207 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Zynga Marsh. I I would say like they have 208 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,800 this like Brontosaurus that it's like got a mushroom thing and 209 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,640 that's, that's Zangamarsh, right They. 210 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:58,800 Have mushroom cities, Manny. They have they have some fungi 211 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,640 cities and stuff, but like Zangamarsh may maybe it's just 212 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,160 too low res and that's why I don't put put it the same. 213 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,160 But they've got those roots that are going through and like grow 214 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,800 in, grow up into everything and. Maybe I'm literally tripping 215 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,120 out. I'm looking at these photos and 216 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,840 I think they might have actually copy pasted some zengemarsh. 217 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Images like. I'm not even kidding. 218 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,840 All right, all right, let's just go in with Zengemarsh. 219 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,440 I, I, I can see where you're coming from. 220 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,200 I don't think it's a it's a one for one, but you're OK. 221 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,320 And then from from what? Let's consider Zengemarsh 6 222 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,520 point O. We have the void Storm, and the 223 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:49,080 void storm is like basically Koresh but like a lot more 224 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:55,120 jagged edges on the buildings. You've got the same mana forges 225 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,720 that they had in Koresh being repeated there. 226 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:03,000 You've got some things that kind of look like if the void met the 227 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,280 cult of Twilight, where it is just twisted metal and jagged 228 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,640 edges there. It looks really cool. 229 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,680 And that's going to be the final zone of the of the story. 230 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:18,600 So if you go through you can you start off course in ever song. 231 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,920 You pick between Zolomon and Karndar, and then once you've 232 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,000 completed those two, then you move on to the Void Storm. 233 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,560 So Lex, are we, are we going with Hondar as your favorite? 234 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,400 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 235 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,600 First of all, again, I've always loved Zynga and I just knew that 236 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,160 I wasn't supposed to love Zynga. I, I don't remember why to know 237 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,840 that everyone tells me I'm not supposed to love Zynga, but I 238 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,760 love Zynga. And so the fact that I get to go 239 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,880 back to Zynga Marsh, but this time I get to fly easily, like I 240 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,080 don't have to like do any the thing and spend $1,000,000 like 241 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,640 I did when I was in Burning Crusade. 242 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,440 And I, Oh my God, I'm so excited. 243 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,000 I'm so excited. I love Vega. 244 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,560 This is going to be my favorite expansion. 245 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,640 I'm so hype. OK. 246 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,000 All right, Sean, what's your favorite zone out of these from 247 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,680 those just like the first impressions here? 248 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,320 I didn't see any pictures of these. 249 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,400 I don't know where you guys saw pictures of these zones. 250 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,000 OK, well Lex is going to share, share with you. 251 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:17,600 There was a bunch of pictures that were in the press kit and 252 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,360 such. I just went to Blizzard's press 253 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,280 kit and there's nothing there for midnight. 254 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,600 What? No, no, it's there. 255 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,920 It's there. OK, well while I'm going to 256 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Passover link to Sean so that he can get some pictures, I do want 257 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,680 to talk about the prey system. And Lex, would you be willing to 258 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,120 talk about prey? Oh, you bet. 259 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,640 I'd be willing to talk about Prey. 260 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,440 So some of you may recall that in a few episodes back, this 261 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,800 might have been significantly many episodes back we were 262 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,440 talking about wouldn't it be great if there was more 263 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,320 challenging open world things? And I think somebody, not me, 264 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,880 was like, they're never going to do more challenging open world 265 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,040 things. That's so silly. 266 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,640 But they're doing more challenging open world things. 267 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,240 So essentially how it goes is you go chat with a guy forgot 268 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,440 his name. I think he's important, but I 269 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,400 needed my guildies to explain the cinematic to me so we know 270 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,840 I'm not going to remember his name. 271 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,080 You say, I think like what zone you're in and you turn on the 272 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,320 price system for that zone. And then you go into that zone 273 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,720 and you do things and you do like you're usually engaging in 274 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,200 your normal life. And while you're engaging in 275 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,440 your normal life, you get what the Dungeons and Dragons folks 276 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,160 will know as random encounters where suddenly things pop up and 277 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,680 you're getting attacked and you have to fight them. 278 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,040 And there's going to be increasing. 279 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,320 I think there's three, like I don't. 280 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,680 Oh gosh, either three people come out and then the big, I 281 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,360 think it's 3 encounters and the last one's big boss. 282 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,880 I should have written this down but I didn't. 283 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,800 It's OK. And so basically you go in, you 284 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,600 kill all these encounters and you kill the big boss. 285 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,720 You can do them at 3 difficulties, you can do them at 286 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,080 normal, hard or nightmare. And so, and this is all opt in 287 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,240 by the way. So it's not like you're going to 288 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,960 have to worry about just randomly questing and not 289 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,240 wanting to do the open world prey system and all of a sudden 290 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,920 somebody's whacking on you. Don't worry about that unless 291 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,440 you're in PvP, then you do have to worry about that. 292 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,200 But from this you can get cosmetics, you can get mounts, 293 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,960 you can get titles and you can get housing items. 294 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,839 So unfortunately you are not getting gear, but that's OK. 295 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,359 You get cute little, cute little things and you get to kill a big 296 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,760 boss. And in the Nightmare, the higher 297 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,920 level difficulties, the final boss is much harder. 298 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,440 I think there was saying in the Nightmare difficulty you 299 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,079 actually get like tied in basically and you have to fight 300 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,359 him in a very small zone. It's very exciting. 301 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:27,160 So, so we're hype. I'm hype. 302 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Are you guys hype? I am honestly, this feels like 303 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,160 when you're halfway through a delve and the Nemesis pops up 304 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,160 just like expanded the pawn and put into the outside world like 305 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,240 that. That's how I see this. 306 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,880 And I'm sort of like, huh, I guess they really like delves. 307 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,080 So they're like, you know what? Why don't we have delves outside 308 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,640 of Delves? And I'm like, OK, all right, I'm 309 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,240 glad that this is the outside world. 310 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,360 I would hate if I like picked up a prey nemesis thing and then I 311 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,480 was in a mythic plus and so I get kanked by my nemesis. 312 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,320 That would that would be that was like my nightmare. 313 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,120 And then I'm like, I better just double check this. 314 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,040 Like, OK, good. It's in a particular zone. 315 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,520 It's an outside world system. This is cool. 316 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Worst case scenario, I'm half paying attention, doing some 317 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,640 fishing and suddenly I get kanked by my by my nemesis. 318 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,080 But all I would do is just be like I'm going to fish somewhere 319 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,760 else. While I am dealing with this, 320 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:29,040 this prey system, the the difficulties, the normal hard 321 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,760 and nightmare difficulties, I think is great to allow players 322 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,120 to engage with it at their own comfort. 323 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,280 Again, you're right. This is something that you've 324 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,240 been demanding saying like we need harder open world content. 325 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:53,040 So I'm glad for that. I dislike, I dislike that it is 326 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,360 random for some. Like it's just like, oh, I'm 327 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:05,040 doing something and it comes out randomly because one, it kind of 328 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,800 reminds me of the mall where it's like, OK, we're just adding 329 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,520 this like additional affix where suddenly things happen. 330 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,240 And two, I would have liked to just be like opt in and I'm 331 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,920 going to do this. I would hate if if there's a 332 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:26,120 player out there that's like, oh, I'm going to do I'm going to 333 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:30,440 do a nemesis and then Oh no, my kids calling me or real life is 334 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,800 pulling me away. They come back, they forget 335 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,240 they've activated this nemesis and then bam. 336 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,280 Oh, no, this is not what I opt into. 337 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,200 Like maybe there's a way where you're like, OK, let me just 338 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,560 resend the contract and nemesis is like, oh, cool, all right, 339 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,200 we're we're we're not enemies again. 340 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,320 I'll leave you alone, bro. But it just seems like A at 341 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,440 least at the very least there should be a reminder when you 342 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,320 log in where it's like you have a nemesis active going or sorry 343 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,960 pre active. This is going to be like a thing 344 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,880 that takes a long time to get through because I was expecting 345 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,680 that it would be pretty quick. Like I, I would anticipate it's 346 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,640 like. I don't, I don't know, it's 347 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,440 multiple times before you deal with the last one. 348 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,480 I and like as quick as it may or may not be, I, I could just 349 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,680 anticipate somebody who doesn't have the play session that they 350 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,160 thought they did gets it, gets interrupted, forgets about it, 351 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,920 and then gets that unpleasant surprise. 352 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,240 So like in my in my mind, I always want to be able to opt 353 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,560 into it. Epidemi, who is a great source 354 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,240 of quotes, says that the Diablo Torment system is a great 355 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,840 example where you can set those wool tears. 356 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:52,120 They're experimenting with that in the Legion remix, and so 357 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,920 maybe that's something that that might come in as well, who 358 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,880 knows? I should. 359 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,160 I do also want to pause really quickly and say while we were 360 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,120 talking I was doing some digging. 361 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,680 I do not know where I got the number 3 encounters before the 362 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,720 boss. I pulled that entirely out of my 363 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,160 butt. Everything is saying that it's 364 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,800 just multiple ambushes, so don't quote me on that. 365 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,840 That was insane. You'll be cool first thing 366 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 though if you feel very smart. Three seems like a nice round 367 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,160 Number. It could be three. 368 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Maybe it increases or with difficulty as well, who knows. 369 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,080 That will also depend on whether it's what I'm thinking where 370 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,040 it's like, you know, 30 minutes Max. 371 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,200 You pick a zone, you go like mostly you're like questing, but 372 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,680 you you really going there just to get your ambushes done so you 373 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,520 can get to the final boss. Or if it's more of a like, you 374 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,680 pick a prey a a week and every time you're in there, for all 375 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,800 you know you're going to get ambushed. 376 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,320 Which when I say it out loud, sounds significantly cooler. 377 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Yeah, depends on how quickly you can cycle through it. 378 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Like I, I definitely think that I agree with you being able to 379 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,400 pick it for the week and then it's like over the course of 380 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,960 like the week I will come across across these encounters and do, 381 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,400 it seems to me a cooler system than I pick it, spend 20 minutes 382 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,400 in a zone to like go hunt this thing down. 383 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,760 That to me just seems like a really zone wide world quest in 384 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080 my mind. And I think that's less 385 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,000 exciting. What do you think, Sean? 386 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,160 I think that I am really glad that Lex is hyped for this 387 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:30,040 feature today as it's been announced and I desperately hope 388 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,360 that two weeks efforts release. We aren't having conversations 389 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,480 along the lines of why can't healers do this because it's too 390 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,120 hard? Why is this so easy as a group? 391 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,800 Why did becoming a group become the way to do praise? 392 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,680 Why is the only thing they give cosmetics? 393 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Why does this feel like such a chore? 394 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,160 I, I personally, I mean, if there's cosmetics tied to it 395 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,080 that I want, I'll do it and I will have the level of enjoyment 396 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,280 associated with it that I get from farming cosmetics. 397 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,160 I just really hope because Lex is genuinely like, she's 398 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,760 glowing. She's so excited about this. 399 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,720 She's beaming with joy. I don't want two weeks into 400 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,200 midnight for Lex to have to say something like I play at at 401 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,200 Demon Hunter so it's fine, but all of my friends who plays 402 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,200 healers can't do this alone anymore, which is what's what's 403 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280 going to happen because it's what literally happens every 404 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,160 time. Oh for sure. 405 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,240 And to be fair, I do like the fact that they set this with 406 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:34,040 only like, and I, I know this is a tender thing to say, a 407 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,480 sensitive, a sensitive point, but only like optional things. 408 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,280 So like cosmetics and mounts and things. 409 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,160 So, and I know that for some of you, you're yelling at your, at 410 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,920 your computers already. And that's fair. 411 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,000 I understand that for some of you that doesn't feel optional. 412 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,480 But at least for me, it's like, if it's gear, I feel like I'm 413 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,840 being a big jerk if I don't do them every week because I'm 414 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,120 letting my team down. If it's mounts, that's for me. 415 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,480 And so if I'm like, oh, this actually sucks and I hate it, 416 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,800 I'm simply choosing, but I'm not going to get some mounts. 417 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,240 That's OK. Nobody else is disappointed. 418 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,640 I'm just maybe a little sad. Just a little one less mount for 419 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Lex. That gets her one bit 1 mount 420 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,960 closer to being a real player. I think that what we could do is 421 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,680 tuned. I think what we could do is like 422 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,360 have it tuned differently for different roles. 423 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:33,000 So like the same thing that they've done in Visions or when 424 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,240 you were doing any of those sort of things where it's like, oh, 425 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,880 it does more damage if you're a tank or have a tank in your 426 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000 right, it has less health if you're a healer and and so 427 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,480 forth, that sort of that sort of thing. 428 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:56,560 I wonder if it if like it brings friends if you're in a group or 429 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,080 if it just goes like, oh, they're in a group. 430 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,200 I don't want to ambush them while there's numbers against 431 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,840 me. Either one of those would be 432 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,440 cool and like make the system feel a lot smarter. 433 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,320 If it if like you're, you're Hunter's like, oh crap, she's 434 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,840 got friends. Hold off. 435 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,680 Or you pick who your nemesis is. So it might like. 436 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,360 I don't know exactly how they want to play this but they could 437 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:25,920 make it so like certain nemeses are really hard hitting but 438 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,880 don't take as much to DPS down to make them more tank specific. 439 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Or certain nemeses are like the depend on a mechanic that 440 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,560 requires you to be able to heal up things in the environment. 441 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,600 And certain ones are more just like pretty classic take hits do 442 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,240 damage more for your DPS. Like they couldn't make it so 443 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,760 you can kind of figure out which one you want to select based on 444 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,960 your class. And so you don't have to do the 445 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,960 like, oh, this one is impossible as a healer. 446 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,040 For the game, can other people see them? 447 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Can they help you fight them if they see them? 448 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,560 If you're in war mode and you're fighting one, can I come kill 449 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,280 you and then you lose the contract? 450 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,640 I have many questions that I hope Blizzard has thought of 451 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,280 before they go live. Because if anybody else can see 452 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520 them, when you're you can be out there fighting this thing and 453 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,640 then a group of people walk by and they just bang it out and 454 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,680 there's no challenge at all. And then it's just dead. 455 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,120 Yeah, I think there's a lot of things that can shift it around, 456 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:31,640 make it way easier, way harder. Definitely PvP open world PvP is 457 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,720 a is a question about it. I would hate if I just want to 458 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,880 fight in like open world PvP and then my nemesis decides this is 459 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920 the time. Oh, that would that would hurt 460 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,240 so much. I hope that also it isn't like 461 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,840 limited attempts where it's like, oh, if I miss it on the 462 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,880 final challenge, then I don't get it or it gets it's reduced 463 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,880 somehow because that will immediately make the knives come 464 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,600 out. Yeah, it. 465 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,760 Should be once a week. It should be locked to once a 466 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:08,520 week. But they did put out a short 467 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960 with all this information. It is as Lex says, just 468 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,160 cosmetic. You are getting cosmetics, 469 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,160 mounts, titles, housing items, but you are not getting any 470 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:24,000 gear. So in in any situation it is 471 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:31,880 just for bragging rights and cool stuff to show off next. 472 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,000 From there we talked about them bringing Dells into the outside 473 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,760 world, but they're not done with Dells in general. 474 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,480 I'm once again going to pass this off to Lex because we've 475 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,760 got 11 new Dells in the next expansion. 476 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,520 Yes, at this time we have her name for new companion, which if 477 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,520 they make me do Bran, like if they pull the vlog out from 478 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,240 under me and they're like actually it's Branigan, I'm 479 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,360 literally going to lose my mind. I will have an entire episode 480 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,800 that will just be me saying swears, I'm sorry Manny. 481 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,400 So new delves, an entire new set of delves. 482 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,160 You're going with the legendary bledelf rogue Velira Sanguinar. 483 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,920 And I did. I will admit that when I read 484 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,400 that the first time, I was like, wow, they really like the third 485 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,920 wind runner Sister has really dropped in the ranks of the 486 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,400 lore. But no, apparently not. 487 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,840 Sean's making a face that makes me think that I'm supposed to 488 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,800 know this woman. Yeah, Valera Sanguener is one of 489 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,160 the most famous rogues in the game. 490 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,600 At one point she was in the gladiator pits with Varian Ren 491 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,520 back in before he when he was lost his memory when he had been 492 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,760 kidnapped. Yeah, Valera is amazing. 493 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,560 She wears that red outfit and has the blonde hair. 494 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,560 Does that help? She's. 495 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,960 Like the blood elf with red outfit and blonde hair. 496 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,840 I literally you. Now I know. 497 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,080 You're welcome. No, not welcome. 498 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:49,000 Think Burning Crusade, Right. Like tight, tight like titular 499 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,960 rogue Burning Crusade. They wanted to show blood Elves 500 00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:00,720 and they showed her they had a Maraud as the the Exodars 501 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,040 champion. That's the dry knife poster boy. 502 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,200 And they had our Sanguinar Rogue. 503 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,520 And then she was also in the Rogue Legion Order hall. 504 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Order hall. She's been back and forth a 505 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,520 bunch of times. She predates World of Warcraft 506 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,320 entirely because she was in the Warcraft series before. 507 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920 She's got pedigree. I. 508 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400 Did think I when I googled her, I immediately recognized her. 509 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160 I did think this was kind of like generic Blood Elf, which is 510 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,120 why I was making fun of Sean, but OK, the fact that this that 511 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,640 she has a name, I'm now caught up. 512 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,920 This is really cool. It's really. 513 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,480 I would like you to recognize how excellent my description of 514 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320 the red outfit was. It was. 515 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,960 This was like, again, again, the reason that I mocked you was 516 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,280 because I was like, oh, yeah. The blonde blood elf in red. 517 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Yeah, I know that one, Sean. Yeah, but you did. 518 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,440 I did, in fact. Yeah, that's cool. 519 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,200 I might actually do some delves. No. 520 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,600 No, I I'm I'm actually it's funny that I feel like her being 521 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,880 the delve companion feels like a downgrade for her. 522 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,280 And then but I'm just sort of like, you know what, whatever. 523 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,720 Like it's just like I think raising delves to have like big 524 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,160 characters like this. And I don't want to say that 525 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,240 Bran, he is a smaller character, but he's always been the like, 526 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,600 quite short hero's companion. I hate him, he's so annoying I 527 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,680 want him to shut up. He's. 528 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,240 Always been the hero's companion. 529 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,320 He's like from his from the get go. 530 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,840 He's just like, oh champion, I'll I'll run along beside you 531 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,520 and give exposition. So like him being the Delft 532 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,880 companion was like, oh, OK, yeah, sure. 533 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,880 Those webs will summon the Rubian. 534 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800 Next time, let's pull out some hotter hitting moves. 535 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160 Wow, I really I didn't. I really should not have tried 536 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,480 the accent there. It did not. 537 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,760 Go all out. I'm to go all out. 538 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,680 Before we start a start a swearing episode, I do think 539 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,960 it's going to be fun to see a healing rogue in action. 540 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Or like the tanking rogue. Sure, evasion tank and all day 541 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800 healing rogue. I I'm tired of people throwing 542 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,520 potions in my vicinity. Let's I don't know what she's 543 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,720 going to do. That's a good. 544 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,440 Well, because the other thing about Bran that I think is less 545 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,640 true for Valera, maybe. I don't know. 546 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,720 I didn't really know she existed as a core character until now. 547 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,040 Is it? Bran is inherently kind of 548 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,440 silly, right? That's always. 549 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Yeah, like you said, he's like the hero's companion, but also 550 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,000 he's he has that kind of dwarf silliness. 551 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,880 And I don't know that that's the vibe. 552 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,600 I'd say they I had to give her. And so I'm really curious how 553 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680 they're going to go about this, like whether they're going to be 554 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,440 like, well, now she's a silly character because she's the 555 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,560 Delve companion. Or if they're going to play this 556 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,240 a little bit more straight, which does mean that they're 557 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,360 going to have to figure out how she's going to be healing and 558 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,880 things without just like, oh, dwarven medicine guys throwing 559 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,960 the things out. I hope instead of healing that 560 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,800 she just stabs us to death. She's like, you're too weak. 561 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,480 She's like, switches her daggers for syringes and she's like, get 562 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,280 up, get up, get up. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's going to 563 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,400 be weird. I'm assuming that that means 564 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,080 Dells are going to be just generally more serious, as you 565 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,080 said, we're not going to have somebody stealing her hat in 566 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,840 Season 2 or whatever. We'll see where it goes from 567 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360 there. Yeah, I wouldn't mind. 568 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,480 What, like seeing how they bounce, the tone, seeing how 569 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,440 they balance, like the various, various parts of it. 570 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Now, we did say that there are 11 Dells. 571 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,560 They are all over the place. They are in all of the zones. 572 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,200 We have the Shadow Enclave, the Collegiate Calamity. 573 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,080 Oh, sorry, Collegiate. Can I just say which Blizzard 574 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,240 dev had a really tough time in college? 575 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Like it was one thing they used to say like one dungeon that was 576 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,680 like, Oh no, the school's going crazy. 577 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,880 And now it's like every other patch they're like and what if 578 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,400 the school goes crazy? Yeah, I don't, I don't know. 579 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,480 You know, it could be like a general sort of like shared 580 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,760 trauma that every so often they get the interns in and they're 581 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,240 like, let me tell you about what it took to get this internship. 582 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,560 And they're like, we should turn that into a dungeon now. 583 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,280 We've done that before. Let's turn that into a delve 584 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,000 this time. Perfect. 585 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,640 The Parhelion Plaza. That's all I ever saw in woods. 586 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Zolaman has the Dark way, Twilight Crypts and a Talaman. 587 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,040 The in Harndar we've got the Grudge Pit and the Gulf of 588 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Memory. I'm telling you right now, the 589 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,240 Gulf of Memory is the coolest one out of these in terms of 590 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,640 name so far. And then the Void Storm has 591 00:33:52,640 --> 00:34:00,480 another two, which is Sun Killer Sanctum and Shadow Guard point. 592 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,240 Then our torments rise is the Nemesis Delve for season 1. 593 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,800 Obviously that will change in season 2, but we had 10 delves 594 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:18,440 with a with the 11th being a the the Nemesis Delve. 595 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,159 Is that the same that they had in the War Within when it 596 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,440 launched? I think so. 597 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,000 Roughly, yeah. Three and Three and Dorn in the 598 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,239 Isle of Dorn, 2 in the Ringing Deeps. 3IN hallow fall. 2IN 599 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,239 Oscar hat plus Zach Fear. Yeah. 600 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,080 So there you go. We're we're back at it again. 601 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:51,560 Then we go into you dungeons and Sean as the dungeoneer, he in 602 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,560 this, I'll give this to you. Yeah, pretty excited. 603 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:01,040 And sad I the more the further away we get from we only play 604 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,600 the in the expansion dungeons in season, the more I wanted to 605 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,480 come back. But anyway, we're getting. 606 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,440 Every song Woods are going to have three. 607 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,000 Wind Runner Spire is being turned into a dungeon, so the 608 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040 historic home of the Wind Runners will be a dungeon. 609 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:20,440 Magisters Terrace is making a return as a dungeon Magistrate's 610 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,200 Terrace the first time was merely a set back and they're 611 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,400 going to be trying to unleash some some void magic here. 612 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,520 And then murder Row, which is happening in Silver Moon itself. 613 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,760 It's one of the areas in Silver Moon murder Row and it's blood 614 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,080 elves that are smuggling some fell relics and demons that are 615 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,280 leftover from the Burning Crusade. 616 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200 That is Zola Mom. We've got 2 coming in with the 617 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,520 Den of Nalarak, which is and Imani bearish. 618 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,720 It's the money bear Loa, and he does have some challenges to 619 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,440 test test before he will join us. 620 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,240 So we have to prove that we're worthy, which means that the 621 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:56,600 Soleimani won't bear the Imani trolls won't just be one note 622 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,280 villains throughout this. So that's nice and the Mysara 623 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,280 caverns also there we're going to save the weather bar who've 624 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,320 been abducted abducted by the vow branch. 625 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,840 Then we have a dungeon in Herinder with the Blinding veil 626 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,240 and then two in the void storm, one that says it's an arena 627 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,360 battle for the amusement of a powerful void entity. 628 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,800 And I'm getting shades of Trial of the Champion, which I hope is 629 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,880 true because then it means we possibly have a trial of the 630 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,360 Crusader style raid in the next year. 631 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Which would mean no trash. Which would make me overjoyed. 632 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,000 And then the next is point. Zenus excited. 633 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,360 I'm excited. I love Eversong Woods. 634 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,600 I love the blood elf themes. I'm looking forward to it. 635 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,320 Zola Mom was a top tier raid when it came out. 636 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,400 Going back there's going to be great. 637 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,280 I am just really sad that we're only going to play four of these 638 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,400 in the first season and then not see them again. 639 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080 Like think about a dungeon like Stone Vault. 640 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,280 Stone Vault was great. We saw the season 1 and now it's 641 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,800 gone. And if you didn't get the 642 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,960 mountain season 1, you have to wait until midnight because it 643 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,520 never came back as a mythic dungeon. 644 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,160 That was another one that we got in Season 1 that never came back 645 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,200 that we enjoyed is. That it? 646 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,400 Is it just? Stone vault? 647 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,160 I mean, I would have said Dawn. Dawnbreaker, but that's came 648 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,920 back, yeah. Right. 649 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,760 Cinderme Brewery was. Not anybody's favorite, so we 650 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,880 just left threads I. Like Cinderme, you don't do. 651 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,080 Dungeons I. Did during Cinder and you. 652 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,760 Thread wasn't playing. Either. 653 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,640 Yeah, I just, I don't know. I don't. 654 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,040 Love I don't I get it, people get bored running the same 655 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,160 dungeon over again farming the same piece of loop but just in a 656 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,640 higher up higher item level isn't super thrilling. 657 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,680 But for me that that I don't know I just I'm playing the 658 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,120 expansion. I would like to be immersed in 659 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,640 that expansions content for the duration of it. 660 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,120 Especially since they're cycling is these through so fast now at 661 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,760 an 18 month click like it does I think also. 662 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,760 Just to add 1 cute little complaint, it does make me feel 663 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,480 even more set back as a newer mythic pluser because it feels 664 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,440 like there's more of an expectation of those. 665 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,120 Like, Oh well, of course we all remember Mother Lode, we don't 666 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,440 need to worry about that. Yeah, exactly. 667 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,920 I think that. The part that you're talking 668 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,880 about, Lex was kind of worse when you would come in season 3 669 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,120 and everybody had been playing the same dungeons for 12 months 670 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,200 straight. So like, and in recent memory, 671 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,680 it wasn't like, do you remember this dungeon and oh, what 672 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,760 changes have they made? It was we've done this dungeon 673 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,800 for a year now. Get with it on week 1, so. 674 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,040 I didn't really play back then. I you're correct that I I 675 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,360 didn't, I wouldn't really know what I'm talking about. 676 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,960 I I do agree with all the points Sean said though. 677 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,040 Like it sucks that you're not immersed in the current story, 678 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,080 the current events and everything. 679 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:17,280 Delve stayed current by like refreshing the affixes, which is 680 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,280 what they used to do with mythic mythic plus in order to keep it, 681 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,040 keep it fresh. But I think this when we got to 682 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,240 Dragonflight, they, they didn't, they're, they didn't know how to 683 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:34,520 keep the creating new affixes. And they're like, though what 684 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,840 we're can do is just refresh the dungeon pool. 685 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:42,840 So I I want to say it's more a issue of keeping that design 686 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,320 train running at that speed helped push this. 687 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,920 And they had a number of other reasons that they considered 688 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,960 pros for it. Yeah. 689 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,160 All I can say is you've got more designers. 690 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,480 I wouldn't, I wouldn't hate it if they did. 691 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,160 Like here's the first, here's the first dungeons and two 692 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,120 returning. And then in the next season, 693 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,800 it's like, here's another two dungeons plus this mega dungeon 694 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960 that we split into two parts and. 695 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,920 And some returning ones. And then in season 3 of us 696 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,000 having the like OG dungeons back was like what they did in 697 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,600 Dragonflight, but they also didn't have mythic zeros being 698 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,920 utterly shut out as well. So like the rotation is much 699 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,560 harder drawn in in the war Within. 700 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,800 And supposedly we'll see what, what the adjustments they do, if 701 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,000 any, in midnight. But yeah, I'd, I'd, I'd like to 702 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,600 be able to remember why stone core was a thing. 703 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,200 Remember why these dungeons that like I maybe struggled against 704 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,640 in season 1 have been like adjusted and they're fun in 705 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,360 season 3. Oh well, yeah. 706 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,160 Hey, why is Thrall on the War Within artwork? 707 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,800 We should have an episode. Where are we talk about that, 708 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,160 but it will not be this episode. I just because. 709 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,880 That's my background for my teleprompters, that key art 710 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,360 where it's like Xalatas standing behind the heroes and almost 711 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,880 looks like a Star Wars poster. And I'm like, no, throw us 712 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,080 there. The hell is he? 713 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,440 At the game. Anyway, sorry, I I just, I 714 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,560 normally have my camera there when I'm looking, I'm only 715 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,720 looking at you guys, but I have you on a different monitor. 716 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,720 So I'm just like staring at this right now. 717 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:33,680 I'm like, that's really gorgeous. 718 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,480 Why do we have him here? Because stories. 719 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,480 Changed as they turned into the old soul saga. 720 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,920 I will say though, when we're looking at the description of 721 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,200 these, these dungeons, I and we're talking about like, oh, 722 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,520 like you're challenging the bear load to get the support of the 723 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:56,240 of the trolls Nexus point is zenith or where it's like you're 724 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,520 the tension between our allies escalated and this is the 725 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,000 beginning of the climax of the story. 726 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,360 I'm hoping that this is pointing to a legion like zone setup 727 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,120 where you have the story of the zone which culminates in the 728 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,880 dungeon so that you have like that climax. 729 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,360 You have that like, hey, this is this is what we've done. 730 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:22,320 They did a similar thing in BFA, less so, but like that to me, it 731 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,680 made each zone really have like a good story that was that was 732 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,920 building up towards something. And it it felt like when we had 733 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,920 the the story on tracks that we did in the war within and it's 734 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,680 in shadow lands it it's made some of the zones feel like they 735 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,320 didn't really get their proper conclusion. 736 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,320 Looking at Arden wield and the trust. 737 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:55,560 I'm looking at like Volt Volt Vulcan story in BFA, like stuff 738 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,160 like that. So I'm hoping that that this, 739 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,920 this is a change. We've got story, not story mode. 740 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,080 What do they call it for dungeons, follower dungeons, so 741 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040 that everybody has access to this, whether you're playing 742 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,480 alone and maybe have like a bit of anxiety playing in Group 743 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,480 content, or if you, if you want to push us on like heroic as 744 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,280 soon as you can, like that's all available to them. 745 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,080 So I'm hoping that now they're going to use dungeons again for 746 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,840 story with less RPS just for Sean's sake. 747 00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,320 I don't mind them. In the levelling, put them in 748 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,480 for levelling, put them in for mythic 0, but just cut it out 749 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,480 for mythic plus. We don't need that, I think. 750 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,520 Kills my flow. Up faster they did, my poor God. 751 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,640 King dirty. I'll never hear his soliloquy 752 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,720 again. I am God. 753 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:53,920 King Scovald fight. OK, Then of course, once you're 754 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,440 done through dungeons, you've done all of the the story 755 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,200 campaign, that's when you hit the raid. 756 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,240 And so I'm going to pass this one to you, Lex, as somebody who 757 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,400 loves rating with like blind and experiencing it, experiencing 758 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,200 for the first time. Tell us a little bit about what 759 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,800 you're not going to be learning about before a raid. 760 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,280 Yeah, so. Raiding is interesting this 761 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,600 year. This at least the first patch of 762 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,600 the expansion. Because there's actually 3 763 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,600 raids. One of them is 1/6 boss raid, 764 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,000 one of them is a one boss raid, and one of those two boss raid. 765 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,240 So there's the Void Spire which is the 6th boss raid that. 766 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,720 Sounds to me more like. The standard rate that you're 767 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,680 kind of expecting where you're fighting the void, you're 768 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,200 dealing with the formidable foes and cosmic horrors, as they say, 769 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,280 that's your sixth boss rate. Then there's the dream Rift, 770 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:54,120 which sounds to me like it's more like the Heronier Heronier. 771 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,720 That's your one boss rate, so you're only fighting one boy. 772 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,320 Very curious how that one's going to go. 773 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,160 And then you have March on Caldanis. 774 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,080 Caldanis, I know how to speak. That's your two boss raid, which 775 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,520 I think is technically a spoiler if you talk about it too much. 776 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,440 So I'm not going to talk about it too much, but 3 raves and I'm 777 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,640 a little, I might have missed an announcement. 778 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,640 I don't know that they've necessarily told us if you have 779 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,200 to go through them in this order, right? 780 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,040 If it has to be Void Spire, Dream Rift March or if they kind 781 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,040 of leave that up to you. I know they've said that they're 782 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,800 all active upon launch, but I'm really excited. 783 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,720 I am on record. I know this is Lex's bad take 784 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,760 podcast. I'm on record saying that I love 785 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,320 Crucible of Storms. So I like the mini raids. 786 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,600 I think they're fun. I think they're cute. 787 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,640 I think they're a good way to like experience things with, you 788 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,480 know, energy and and they get to try different mechanics and try 789 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,360 things that are a little bit more complicated, a little bit 790 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,080 weird. So I'm very excited about this. 791 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,160 How are we feeling about the raids? 792 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,600 Let's pass this to Sean. Go ahead. 793 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,640 I yeah, I I mean, it's. Just I'm I'm sure it'll be 794 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,000 great. It's just one raid tier with 795 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,400 three locations. So instead of a single 9 bus 796 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,760 raid, it's just a. 9 bus raid broken. 797 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,800 Up into three locations, especially if they're all 798 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,880 dropping loot on the same like item level track, then that's 799 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,080 how that will play out. You'll have your raid night 800 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,200 where you'll go and do you know whichever 1 is considered 801 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,360 easiest and then you'll go into the next one and the next one. 802 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,480 I think the six box raid is intended to be the last one 803 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:39,120 because it is says it's where I thought there was a thing about 804 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,360 finding Salitaf. Or yeah, I can't find that 805 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,160 anymore, but I do remember somebody saying it. 806 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,560 Yeah, I read it somewhere that. It was hold on, here we go. 3 807 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,800 raids, new bosses. Void Spire 6 boss raid within 808 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,120 the Void Storm that serves as Alitat Stronghold. 809 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,080 The Dream Rift, A single boss raid that takes players to a 810 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,600 place where the fail between primordial dreams and brutal 811 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,560 reality is thin and March on Queldonas 2 bus raid with large 812 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,120 story spoilers. More details on this raid to 813 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,640 come later. I suspect March on Keldonas will 814 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,760 be the first one because it will probably be what we used to 815 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,640 unlock silver moon or something like that in the story and then 816 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,960 the rest of them following after. 817 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,040 But yeah, it's I mean, I'm looking forward to I think 99 818 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,400 bus raid is good. It's a little. 819 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,760 It's probably the cap for the number I would want and this. 820 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,320 Potentially opens it up. For some people to try some 821 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,880 mythic bosses who maybe they wouldn't, it's a lot easier to 822 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,320 get people together to try one mythic boss than it is to get 823 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,080 them to lock in for 8:00. So that's nice. 824 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,840 But I don't see this as like any groundbreaking change to rating 825 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,720 or the race to world first. It's it's just a nine boss raid 826 00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:51,760 broken up into three locations, which is fine I. 827 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,120 Think that they have to be very careful about how they put this 828 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,840 forward if you OK, So looking at the current raid where we 829 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,520 assisted the straight track, well, I mean there's like an 830 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,240 option of which boss you take on 2nd, but like it's basically a 831 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:10,840 straight straight track through through the raid. 832 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,200 And so the difficulty ramping up is pretty linear when you have 833 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:22,480 three entry points, 3 if the if the 6th boss raid is utterly 834 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,280 linear, 3 bosses that can be approached as like anywhere 835 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,680 between 2nd and 6th boss, right? Or sorry, 2nd and 4th boss 836 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,680 rather you. I think that like how they tune 837 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,000 these is going to be weird. There might be like where you're 838 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,720 in that 2 boss raid and it's like first boss, fairly entry 839 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,960 second boss. What the hell, we got to go farm 840 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,720 something else. There's going to be that like as 841 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:52,240 you said, there's going to be a accept, accepted, widely 842 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:57,640 accepted, widely adopted path through this where, yes, it's 843 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,120 going to become nine bosses in a very particular order just in 844 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,040 three different locations. And I'm not going to like when 845 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,120 it's like, OK, we're going to clear through this and then 846 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,120 we're going to walk out of here. We're going to all pour it over 847 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,920 here and then we're going to clear, clear this one. 848 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,480 And then we'll go over here. Like that to me is hella 849 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,960 annoying and is going to ruin some people's raid nights just 850 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,920 because of the time lost going back and forth in between. 851 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,080 I mean, I'm pretty convinced. Story wise, it's Void Spire 852 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,160 March and then Dream Rift is kind of its own little thing 853 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,320 just based on the like little bits of information we have 854 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,080 about the story. So I guess I would guess that 855 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,920 it's less going to be you're popping around a million 856 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:40,760 different places and more you do Void Spire and like you do the 857 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,960 six bosses together, then you pop over. 858 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,280 I guess one thing I'm forgetting is that you guys tend to finish 859 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,440 normal on like Night 1. So we might be a little 860 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,960 different. I know as I'm speaking, I 861 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,760 understand the issue a little bit more clearly. 862 00:49:54,760 --> 00:50:00,360 Yeah, but also Lex. If your team hits a wall going 863 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,880 through the six boss raid and you haven't attempted the other 864 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,840 ones, don't you think there's a point where we're like, oh, 865 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,400 we're really not working on this. 866 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,440 Let's go deal with like the other raid to go get some gear. 867 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,000 Like I think all teams are going to have that kind of discussion, 868 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,840 even if like they don't do it all the time. 869 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,640 That's fair. And I do, actually, I'm really. 870 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,600 Interested, as a raid leader, how we're going to approach 871 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,560 this, Because I think you guys are right. 872 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,480 There's going to be kind of a path that people take. 873 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:26,640 But I'm guessing that we are going to have some degree of 874 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,840 conversation about how we're going to go about this and then 875 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,240 how we want to make it work. Because, yeah, you know, if you 876 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:34,400 have a rough night, you can do March and get involved. 877 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,800 Yeah, I don't think you're going to be. 878 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,760 Able to, though I think the difficulty will be tuned like 879 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,800 the way I'm reading this. So six boss raid, 2 boss raid, 1 880 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:50,440 bus raid is you would do the first six bosses of the current 881 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,280 raid and then after boss 6 you would leave and then the next 882 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,320 two boss raid would be the next two bosses. 883 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:03,000 So bosses 6:00 and 7:00. So Fractalis and Nexus King and 884 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,440 then the one bus raid would be De Bencia. 885 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,760 Seen that example like that. I don't think you're going to 886 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,960 have the, I don't think if you get on boss four of the six boss 887 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,760 raid and you get stuck. I don't anticipate this is 888 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,840 assuming that the difficulty curve goes 6 bus raid, 2 bus 889 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,440 raid, 1 bus raid. I don't think you're going to 890 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,360 have the option to go to another raid and get Lube because I 891 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,680 think it's going to be tuned to expect that you had cleared that 892 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,080 six boss raid or vice versa. If you if you start on the 2 893 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,880 boss raid and you struggle on the second like I I expect that 894 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,280 there there's if I. Will be very. 895 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,680 Frustrated if they tune it so that the first boss of the two 896 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,600 boss raid is easy and the second boss of the two boss raid 897 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,440 requires that you've cleared the six boss raid first, but you 898 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,560 can't clear the six boss raid until you click if. 899 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,520 If that is the difficulty curve, that'll be brutal. 900 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,560 That'll that'll suck. It's going to be clear through 901 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,760 1, clear through 1, clear through 1. 902 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,560 So any rate team that clears all of normal, all of heroic in a 903 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,320 single night or even when you're in farm. 904 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,400 So when you're far, it's every rate team basically. 905 00:51:59,080 --> 00:51:59,800 It will. I agree with that. 906 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,520 You don't get annoying. You'll lose time because of 907 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,720 travel. But I don't think this is like I 908 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,360 don't, I don't think this is going to be like some novel idea 909 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,680 that changes rating. I just think it's a nine bus 910 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,720 tier that includes more travel time than usual. 911 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,600 Were you guys playing? During Mr. Pandaria raiding in 912 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,080 during Mr. Pandaria. No, no. 913 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,760 OK, so Mr. Pandaria is the last time this this happened, but the 914 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,000 raids weren't released all at the same time. 915 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,000 You had Mogashon vaults. You cleared through Mogashon 916 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,520 vaults. You went into heart affair. 917 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,760 You cleared through heart affair. 918 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,440 You went to terrorists of the endless. 919 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,240 Sorry, terrorists of everlasting Spring or something. 920 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:37,520 It's it was just called toes. I apologize. 921 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,000 I don't recall exactly what that stood for. 922 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,120 So you remember toes? Though. 923 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,920 I mean, it's Alotaph season. Everybody remembers toes. 924 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,280 We're all thinking about the toes. 925 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,040 So. Like there was a very clear 926 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,400 path, but there was a point where it's like, OK, maybe you 927 00:52:53,400 --> 00:53:01,440 were having issues in a later boss of the first the first one. 928 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,200 So you would clear through some of the bosses in Heart of an 929 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,400 Sorry Heart of fear. And thank you Epidemi who 930 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,960 reminded me that it is Terrace of Endless Spring. 931 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,080 Anyways, there was also an example if you guys remember BFA 932 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,360 where we had the battle for Tsar lore and then the Crucible of 933 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,520 Storms came out right after. Crucible of storms was really 934 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:29,280 13, boss 13 and boss 14. You needed to be geared from 935 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:33,000 from one raid to really have a good chance in the other. 936 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,200 And I think like if they do that, if they stagger the 937 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:41,960 releases so that it kind of telegraphs that it would be 938 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,840 best. But like right now what we're 939 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,720 hearing is that they're all released at the same time and 940 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:54,000 you guys got to figure it out. And I, I feel that is a man. 941 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,760 Am I asking for time gating? Is that what's happening here? 942 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,360 I think I'm asking for time gating. 943 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,400 Come at me, friends. Oh, that would be that. 944 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,440 Would be worse. Do not time gate this. 945 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,880 That would be horrible. This Well, I I this. 946 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,680 Is why I I don't anticipate that they are going to make it so 947 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:15,360 that like you go like I my guess is that the first boss. 948 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,480 I I I'm guessing. That Dream Rift and March are 949 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,240 going to be more complex because they're smaller, the same way 950 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,960 the Crucible was more complex because it was smaller. 951 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,320 But I, I guess I don't know, I'm really curious how they're going 952 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,440 to do this and I'm really excited. 953 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,120 I think that this could be really fun and, and give us a 954 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,520 lot of ways to move around in, in ways we don't usually have to 955 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,960 move around. For example, I'm really curious 956 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,200 how this is going to affect race the world 1st and whether there 957 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,160 might be something where like one thing I was really excited 958 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,800 about when they announced this actually is, I think I was 959 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,680 complaining a few episodes back that there's really no space for 960 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,520 other teams to be anything other than like first boss players. 961 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,480 But I can imagine a world where it's set in such a way that the 962 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,680 big teams hit voidspeer Voidspire immediately to try to 963 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,600 get the biggest, the most impressive race to world first. 964 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,640 But you can. There are smaller teams that are 965 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,280 competing dream rift in March. That said, as I say this, that 966 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,800 also means that you're splitting attention a lot. 967 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,960 So like who knows if anyone cares, But I I, I I can see a 968 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,560 lot of I can totally agree with you guys. 969 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,480 I can see a lot of ways this is going to suck, but I can also 970 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,920 see a lot of ways where this can be really cool. 971 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,520 And it's going to open up rating in in such a way that it's, it's 972 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,160 easier to plug in and teams getting more creative, right? 973 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,240 Teams that maybe struggle, struggle in, in certain aspects, 974 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:26,480 like teams that have like weaker DPS might have different ones 975 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,680 that they go on or teams that struggle with healing might have 976 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,200 things that they work on. And anyway, I, I'm, I'm excited 977 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,080 about this. I think this is really cool and 978 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,200 I think this has the opportunity to be really exciting. 979 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,880 I'm going to say it's all about the loot. 980 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,520 Where's the tear? People are going to stack those 981 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,280 raids real quick if they if it's within shooting distance and you 982 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,320 can sort of skip the final boss of the sixth boss one and then 983 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,640 get tear from the other ones. People will jump around for the 984 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,680 loot, even if the difficulty isn't quite that way. 985 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,040 So there's a lot of things that will affect race to world first 986 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,120 progress and like what they what they hit or not. 987 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,000 Like the quote UN quote optional boss has like boots that 988 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,160 everybody wants. So it's it's something that 989 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,600 people will hit. But like with this reset that 990 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,400 happened, did the teams go back and do do that or did they go 991 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,640 straight to try and like get Prague? 992 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,280 Sean, you be casting everybody. Re cleared, Yeah, everybody do 993 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,680 the full re clear. OK, yeah. 994 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,840 And they one shot every. Boss on the re clear because of 995 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,120 the nerves. Oh, wow. 996 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:35,080 OK, OK, so yeah, this is this will be interesting for for 997 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,560 rating progress both at the at home level and the race world 998 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,240 first. It'll be, it'll be cool to see 999 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:48,440 how that goes, but we've been talking about the Harandar and 1000 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,680 where the here and there come from. 1001 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,880 So it should be no surprise to anybody that we are getting the 1002 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,040 here and there as a playable race. 1003 00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:02,000 After vanishing from the face of the earth at the start of 1004 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,440 Undermine, they are back in a big way. 1005 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,040 They can be Horde or Alliance. They are able to roll as a 1006 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,880 druid, a warrior or hunter, a rogue, a priest, a mage, A 1007 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,200 warlock, A monk or shaman. Obviously so many people are 1008 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,800 looking at those druid forms and saying Druid, druid. 1009 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,840 That means that you know you cannot be a death knight, you 1010 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,760 cannot be a paladin, you cannot be an evoker, nor can you be a 1011 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,720 Demon Hunter. Why you would want to be a 1012 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:36,200 paladin clearly that's just somebody being masochistic, but 1013 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:42,720 what what do you guys say here and are interesting you let's 1014 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,040 start with you Lex I'm. Boycotting it because I still 1015 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,520 haven't gotten murlocs. I will not be playing a hard 1016 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,480 here. Mostly there. 1017 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,080 There's other reasons that we're playing a hard here, but we're 1018 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,280 going to talk about that in a hot sack. 1019 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,360 So I'll we'll put a pin in that 10. 1020 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:02,760 OK, OK, I like. That they don't wear shoes like 1021 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,320 trolls and I like that they have feet like night owls so. 1022 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,560 There you go, Blizzard. Blizzard was like catching in 1023 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,520 the Lasala toes or like now you can play a race that you see the 1024 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,680 toes all the time. Yeah, yeah. 1025 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,640 I mean, I'm in different. I'm, I'm glad we're getting 1026 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,160 another race. I guess people like them. 1027 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,840 I'm going to play the same 2 races I've always played So 1028 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,800 cool. I'm happy for Pete. 1029 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,040 Like, you know, I know there's a lot of people who are really 1030 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,320 upset that the hair and hair weren't over every aspect of 1031 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,200 Undermine and or Koresh because they don't understand that you 1032 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,160 can start a story, beat and then set it down for a minute and 1033 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,080 then pick it back up later. Media literacy is really tough. 1034 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,160 And so they thought, well, they're not immediately talking 1035 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,160 with them right now. They must not exist anymore. 1036 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,800 Did Blizzard delete them? And they'll go to. 1037 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,080 Their back, weird, yeah, a lot of a lot of appearance changes, 1038 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:52,960 though. They look pretty cool. 1039 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,200 Happy for folks to get a class that they wanted, the player 1040 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,040 race that they wanted to play. You know, anybody who looks at 1041 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,480 the Heron air and think, oh man, that's me. 1042 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,520 I'm glad you can play as them. I think this is the. 1043 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,880 First time that we are repeating a rate like a a race in the 1044 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,440 allied races though, am I correct? 1045 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,320 Because this is the second troll ish is that they're not really a 1046 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,360 troll. Well, I mean, they're I want to 1047 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,640 get an halfway step. Between. 1048 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,040 Troll and and elves and night elves, yeah, and I'm. 1049 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,320 Also being an idiot. Because dark eye we have dark 1050 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,120 iron dwarfs and we also have earthen. 1051 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:30,040 So I immediately am proven wrong interaction OK, but I mean like. 1052 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,760 The Urban got deleted after undermine, so there you go, 1053 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,440 deleted. But yeah, now we've got the hair 1054 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:45,000 and R who have avoided that same fate and I'm interested in 1055 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,840 seeing them. I think they did a good job when 1056 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,920 they introduced the urban with their like local stories and 1057 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,160 stuff, making them, making them seem really cool that I but I 1058 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,840 haven't touched an Urban since the Harn air. 1059 00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,880 I think it's going to be pretty similar where it's like, Oh, 1060 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,200 that's cool. And that's like a really cool 1061 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,360 story. And then they're just going to 1062 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,960 be like, OK. I think when Blizzard was 1063 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,480 introducing races before they really made the expansion all 1064 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,360 about that race, like burning Crusade was so blood elves, so 1065 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,240 so deny and so and so forth. Like you had Morgan all over the 1066 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960 place and and goblins all over the place. 1067 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,760 Now it's just sort of like a, OK, this is a a feature and 1068 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,840 like, maybe I like the aesthetic or maybe I don't. 1069 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,320 These guys I I don't like open feet like this not my not my 1070 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,200 thing. Sorry. 1071 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:40,840 I do moving right along. Can you talk about the new spec 1072 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,120 coming? I think, oh man, I don't even 1073 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,440 know who to throw this to because you guys, did you want 1074 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:46,240 me to? Did you want me to? 1075 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,800 Do this one you do over it. I'm going to get water did. 1076 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,120 You want? Go ahead, legs. 1077 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,360 OK, so. You all thought we were crazy. 1078 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,720 You all thought we were ridiculous and silly. 1079 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,240 We are getting a third Demon Hunter spec and it's void themed 1080 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,640 and it's range and it's called devour. 1081 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,360 It's mid range. Sorry, it's mid range. 1082 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,840 It's called devourer. You're so again, it's it's 1083 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,120 focused on soul harvesting techniques. 1084 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,320 So presumably it's a build and burn thing. 1085 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:12,640 I'm think I'm using words correctly. 1086 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,240 You're doing some range, some meat and some melee. 1087 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,600 You're kind of popping all in and out. 1088 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,920 You can get void elf demon hunters now, which is super 1089 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:26,280 exciting. And I, I, I, OK, I'm actually 1090 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,840 going to spend a couple seconds. I'm going to appeal directly to 1091 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,920 FAS dev FAS dev. I'm never going to ask this of 1092 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,760 you again. I've never asked of it of you 1093 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,320 before. I just need this one thing. 1094 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,480 I need you to get me alpha access. 1095 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,920 I need, I need this so much. This is the only time in my 1096 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,560 entire life that I'm ever going to play alpha. 1097 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:43,840 This I. I need to play. 1098 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,680 Devour I'm so excited and if it sucks I'm going to be devastated 1099 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,800 but Oh my God I've 'cause I OK OK OK here's the thing. 1100 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,960 I'm not really a melee girl. I play melee because I enjoy the 1101 01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,400 Demon Hunter mobility and the way that it it moves like 1102 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,680 movement is so part of the the spec. 1103 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,600 Unclear if that's going to be true of our but I kind of can't 1104 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,400 imagine a Demon Hunter speck that isn't mobile. 1105 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,920 Like that would just be such a departure from a Demon Hunter. 1106 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,440 I'm like why would you even make that a Demon Hunter speck? 1107 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,880 Just make a new class, Not that I have any feelings on that. 1108 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,960 So I'm hoping, guessing knock on wood, that this will also be 1109 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,760 mobile and if I could have a mobile range class my life would 1110 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,560 be set. Do you have any idea how happy 1111 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,080 I'd be? This would be the greatest thing 1112 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,320 that ever happened to me so I'm really excited about the power. 1113 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,000 How does anyone have thoughts? I. 1114 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:35,000 I want to introduce you to Hunter, which is a mobile range 1115 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:41,400 spec that often can just keep moving around and do damage not 1116 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,680 caring. But I do think that the mid 1117 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,000 range part of this is pretty interesting. 1118 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:55,400 This is them kind of doubling down on the evoker thing where 1119 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,560 it's like OK, 25 yard range, not that 40 yard range. 1120 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:04,320 Also making a Demon Hunter have an option where it's not in the 1121 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:09,560 puddle of melee is is also pretty interesting. 1122 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:17,480 I think that I, I, I think that this is definitely something 1123 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,960 that could shake up stuff. It's going to be a question of 1124 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,840 do you play Havoc or do you play Devourer? 1125 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,560 Like which one plays safer in the mechanics? 1126 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,520 You're getting that same buff. They're fighting over that, that 1127 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,560 same spot. I don't know, like it. 1128 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,880 It might just be in terms of like tuning what? 1129 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,200 What's the utility that Demon Hunter brings? 1130 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:50,040 Usually it's just that 5% magic damage buff and bringing its own 1131 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,320 damage. Well, first of all, yeah. 1132 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,440 The 5% would be pretty chunky if I'm also doing magic damage in 1133 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,120 this case. I guess maybe I'm not. 1134 01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,560 I don't know how damage works. It doesn't matter. 1135 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,080 I mean, darkness is always. Great in terms of like a a nice 1136 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,760 little defensive utility? Well, I'd like to be sure, I 1137 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,400 don't think. Maybe I'm about to look like an 1138 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,920 idiot. I don't think every class has 1139 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,200 like unique utility right? Like there are certain ones that 1140 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,680 do really exciting things, but not everyone if you're. 1141 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,240 Talking from a mythic bus perspective, demon hunters bring 1142 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,160 Casanova so it's an ALE stun. They bring darkness as you 1143 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,480 mentioned. They bring an immunity and 1144 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,680 another walk. They bring in prison which is 1145 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,280 nice for skips if they're a night elf. 1146 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,680 And if you're playing and you're not a night elf Demon Hunter, 1147 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,200 you're not playing seriously. They bring shadows or they bring 1148 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,520 shadow meld. That everybody should know. 1149 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,320 My Demon Hunter is a blood elf so I am in the non serious club. 1150 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,240 So that's they bring those things and then yeah, from a 1151 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,440 raid perspective, it's the you're looking at darkness, 1152 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,720 you're looking at a potential nether walk immunity, good 1153 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,280 damage, good self sustainability, high mobility. 1154 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,520 Also many those fun and. They bring, they bring fun and 1155 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,480 fun and it's. Fun to make fun of you when you 1156 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,160 backflip off. The off the arena and that's 1157 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,560 really good for. You to noom, Noom all. 1158 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,440 Over the place, you literally knew. 1159 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,600 It's so exciting. Oh my God, you guys. 1160 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,600 I the problem is Devourer is going to come out and it's going 1161 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,000 to be a like stop and cast like nothing like other demon 1162 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,840 hunters, and I'm going to be the most disappointed I've ever been 1163 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,800 in my life. But as of right now, it's going 1164 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,240 to be so slow over the moon. So slow. 1165 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,480 It's going to be awesome. You're going to be playing your 1166 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,440 devoured Demon Hunter cursing that they can't do pray 1167 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,640 correctly I because the tuning is off. 1168 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,720 I did end up playing. Void Elf for like simply because 1169 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,160 I got so committed when they announced void elf to being 1170 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,200 excited about void elf that when it came out I was like, well, I 1171 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,680 guess I'm playing Void elf until I switch to Demon Hunter. 1172 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,160 So first of all, I'm going back to void elf. 1173 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,200 But also the fact that I'm saying publicly that I'm really 1174 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,840 excited about this means when it comes out I will feel obligated 1175 01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,520 to love it. Like I'm going to be like, well, 1176 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,680 I'm determined to enjoy devourer, so I'm going to be the 1177 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,520 biggest devourer since you've ever seen. 1178 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,560 I mean, like you, you get to enjoy it on the alpha and then 1179 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,720 you, you can ditch it when it goes live. 1180 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,160 You're like, I had my fun. And then they made those changes 1181 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,840 and oh, I, I gave it, I gave it a fair shot. 1182 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,880 That's basically how you can't have trouble. 1183 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,720 So. That is true. 1184 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,120 I have to be fair. I'm saying I want alpha so bad, 1185 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,440 but previously when I got alpha I like obsessively told everyone 1186 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,400 how much they needed to play this game because it's the best 1187 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,680 thing that ever came out. And then once it became big, I 1188 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,440 was like, oh, I don't really like this boy. 1189 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,000 OK, All right, festive, ignore that last comment. 1190 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,920 We'll see if you can get alpha. But yeah, all of this is is 1191 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,040 there. There was also a lot of talk 1192 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,520 about housing, but unfortunately we are already at an hour here, 1193 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,960 so we're really going to have to cut this short. 1194 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,600 There's so much info out there. There's more info that's coming 1195 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:01,680 on out later this week, so we will be going going through that 1196 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,680 as well in the next episode. Before we run though, I have one 1197 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,160 more thing. That's what I was about to ask. 1198 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,200 Do you have anything? You want to add? 1199 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,520 Yeah, one more thing. Transmog is going to be cheaper 1200 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:20,320 and it no not free cheaper. The headlines on every single 1201 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,640 website that said that transmogging will be free are a 1202 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,080 gross misrepresentation of what the actual reality is for 1203 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,840 transmogging. So they're switching to a slot 1204 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,440 based transmog instead of right now. 1205 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,360 The way transmog works is you transmog the specific item 1206 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,320 you're wearing to look like something else. 1207 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,000 The transition they're making is you will be, so you have to pay 1208 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,160 every time you get a new piece of armor to transmog it. 1209 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,960 The transition they're making is you'll be transmogging to the 1210 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,760 slot itself, so you'll make your shoulders look a certain way. 1211 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,040 That will still cost you gold, but it remains that look 1212 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,480 forever. You pay once for the for 1213 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,640 creating the outfit and then you can change the outfits for free, 1214 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,240 but you still will have to pay for that initial outfit that you 1215 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,480 set up. So not free, but much cheaper, 1216 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,600 which is nice. But every you're right, Manny, 1217 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,600 literally every single news aggregate website said 1218 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,240 transmogging will be free in the war within in mid in midnight. 1219 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:27,479 And they're all liars. They're all click baity liars. 1220 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,720 I'm looking at you in chat. You know who you are, you click 1221 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,359 baiter. I'm blaming him. 1222 01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:40,720 I know he didn't do it well, OK. I I I'm looking forward to my 1223 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,319 almost free trans blog in midnight and I am looking 1224 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,760 forward to the next episode because we have a lot more 1225 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,760 information that is going to be coming out through Gamescon and 1226 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,880 we will be going through that as well. 1227 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,000 So make sure you are back here or jump into the discord bit dot 1228 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:02,359 LY flat slash fast discord so that you can join in the 1229 01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:05,359 conversations. Until next time, though, may all 1230 01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:06,279 your hits be quits.