I am just really sad that we're only going to play four of these
in the first season and then not see them again.
Like think about a dungeon like Stone Vault.
Stone Vault was great. We saw it in season 1 and now
it's gone. And if you didn't get the
Mountain Season 1, you have to wait until midnight.
For Lauderon. For the Karen Tour for Pandaria.
For calendar. To the burning region.
For Gilnaeus, but has not died for the Lich King.
For the. Sindora for the Alliance, for
the Horde, For Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to
another episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, Manny.
I am joined by Lex and Sean, and I've got to ask you guys,
starting with you, Lex, what in the world did you think of the
Midnight Cinematic? I thought it was really cool and
exciting. I was extremely confused about
it until my guildies explained it to me, so thank you.
Shout out to them for knowing more.
But I like the like good vibes. Right?
Big void Walker or void? Yeah, void Walker.
That little guy. I think he's not a void Walker
because he's not currently being owned by a warlock.
He was cool. That was sick.
OK, All right, yeah, those like void minions are definitely are
definitely something new. Like they I have originally
said, oh, they're like fragments of dementias because they've got
like they're kind of like simplified dementias armor and
they've got the like glowing hole in the in the chest.
But like we'll eventually get their their name.
But they are definitely pawns of Zalatath.
And so you're right. Yeah, it was a thrilling trailer
in my, my opinion. But Sean, how did the trailer go
for you? What are your first impressions
of the Midnight trailer? I teared up when I saw Leadron
and then I bawled when that hand came out of the light and
touched her shoulder. So my first impressions are I
can't wait. I love the blood elves I first
swapped to. Like I really I played in
vanilla but I didn't really fall in love with Warcraft until the
Burning Crusade when I became a blood off ballad.
And I love silver Moon, I think it's a great city.
I can't wait to go back. Everything about it just, it
just filled me with so much hope and then I question why hope
makes me cry. You know, like we had this other
show that Alexa used to do, which was more about Wellness
and in gaming, but that isn't this show.
So I got to ask you, whose hand do you think that was?
That's a great question. That's the question on
everybody's mind right now. So if it has to be, I have two
answers. Answer one, it's just generic
random paladin from the players, and that's what the Light center
was, was paladins from all across Azeroth to help.
And then option 2, which I think would be the best, is it's the
Arathi coming through and it's somebody that we haven't met
yet, maybe the Emperor, maybe you know, somebody, somebody
from the Arathi line, but not from the Halo fall Arathi, but
somebody from like Aerithor across the ocean and the light
descending them to fight and rental ash.
OK, I mean that that is that is a guest that I had not heard
before actually. Oh really?
They literally show an Arathi ballot in in one of the shorts.
Nobody has thought that yet. No, I, I mean, I've seen like I
have seen images of the concept artwork and I didn't think Arafi
and it's but that it's like the artwork that's in the fast
discord. Is that an Arafi paladin?
Is that what that is? No, but that that's not
specifically, but the music is the same music from Halo Fall
and it's the I'm pretty sure. And it's like there's one of the
shorts where there's show like one of those shorts that
released afterwards, the YouTube shorts when they're cutting
through and showing different paladins and when one of them
front and center is a Colterian woman, which is the the bottle,
the body model for Arathi. And they're they are already
paladins. So yeah, I just assumed that it
was going to be the Arathi coming.
Is that really not something that everybody is saying they
think it's? Honestly, this is the first time
I've I've heard it. I'll take credit then.
Lex, what's your guess then? Are you with Sean on his theory?
Oh I am not good at like that sort of lore identification.
Like I said, I did need my guildies to explain why this
like clip was meaningful other than the fact that it looked
cool and had like clear deep emotions.
So I've definitely heard the Arafi the most.
Sorry Manny, you can be part of my lore conversations if you
want, but I I thought I fully thought Anaru was going to come
out of that soul. Well so or Sun.
Well, this is This is why I don't make more predictions.
Yeah, no worries, no worries. So wait, there's there's so many
wells that we're going to be talking about as we go through
this. My thought originally was like,
oh, it's like the army, the Army of the Light.
Actually, originally I was like, Oh, is it like Anduin and it and
him bringing back up, you don't really get to see like the
colors and such. So it's like, Oh, maybe it's
like a bunch of storm and nights and be like, Hey, we're standing
together and like hoarded lion sitting side by side in this
moment of need. Then I saw like the concept art
that was thrown in the fast escort.
I mean, I should say bit dot LY slash fast discord if you want
to join those conversations. And so my thought was like, Oh,
maybe it's like Terrellian creating a like kids, like the
army of the light that came from Argus was put underneath to
rally in and therefore underneath Stormwind.
Right. And if they do like army of the
light paladins that are that are under Trallian control, that
would make a lot of sense. He was in he was in Queldonas
for the short story before the head of the war within.
He was in, he showed up for a little bit, but everybody shows
up for a little bit, so that means nothing.
And so the other thing is like, later on, we're going to find
out something that points to him being a major character in
Midnight. And so my, my theory, my
standing theory right now is Army of the Light, Taralian
hasn't been coasting during this time of peace.
He's being militarizing and he and now he's his army's coming
to save the day, as it were. There not have been drain iron
in the mix, then they should have the army of the light and
because that what they showed was all humans, which is why I I
I led to air throw because they're very specifically not
xenophobic, but one they're like there are.
They're just humans. They are xenophobic.
And a little bit xenophobic. They are xenophobic.
They they're, they're right there with the Red Dawn and the
like. Hey, listen, if it didn't, it
didn't come from our neck of the world.
So we don't like it. Mine.
I will say my initial thought was Stormwind just because it
was all humans, or at least the only things we saw were human
Stormwind desk models. So that leads us to like, again,
if you're wondering what in the what in the world are they
talking about? What happened, Definitely check
out the the show notes. We've got the link to that
trailer. It was very emotional.
There was like a crisis of faith and everything in there really,
really gets you going, but also comes out of it's like
definitely in the middle of events that we have not got to
yet. And so clearly there's going to
be a lot that leads up to what we're going to see in that
cinematic. And rather than try and guess
that that we've got a lot of information to go through.
So let's get right to it. In midnight we are going to be
in Queldonas around Silver Moon City.
This is a fully rebuilt reimagination from reimagining
from the ground up of the the zone.
So it is going to be not one for one, not a remaster, not like
just HD graphics. They have like pretty much
expanded the area. The city of Silver Moon is going
to be the like central hub, which means there's going to be
both Horde and Alliance in there, but they are going to
remember that it is a Horde city and have some Horde only areas
so. Here's a question for you guys.
Do you think that they're going to do the Drain Eye and Last
Titan or do you think they're just going to say screw you
guys, Burning Crusade? If you wanted to be relevant,
you should have been relevant and only do Silver Moon.
I I think they do Azure mistyle this patch.
It'll happen in midnight. Probably the .5.
Something like that. There's no way they overdo 1 and
not the other. I'm I've flat out, I think
they've, they've said screw it. We're not, we don't care about
like trying to make everything even.
We're just going to do the story and do the things that we we
need to. And like, if you miss out this
time, you miss out this this time, which I'm going to get
back to you because I think there's a number of things along
that line. But what we're seeing is that
this entire area has like recovered from the scourge
attack that had originally gone after the sun.
Well, so they've made everything all pretty and nice again, only
to get hit by the void and xylitaph.
So man, poor, poor guys. Just when we get that HD remake,
they're under assault again, which means that the Eversong
Woods are going to be back in as the first zone that we'll it
will be in again. That is with this entire rebuilt
redone thing. The Ghostlands have recovered
from from being all scourgy and they're in a much better
position. All of that is now like
remastered, and I'm looking forward to that.
From there, there are two additional zones that we'll be
able to go to. Zola Mountain, previously just a
just a small little neck of the woods, has been expanded into
its own full-fledged zone and built out.
So you're going to see a lot of troll grandeur there, including
the Loa of War and a bunch of new Loa.
I love that. And then on the other side, the
other zone that you can go to 2nd is Harandar.
This we know of previously as the root lands.
And so there you're going to of course, come across the Harnier
and that zone looks kind of like, oh, man, I'm going to say
something similar to Dressvar where like all the things are
like wrapped up in trees. But this is like a step further,
kind of like, oh man, what was the, I think Arden wield?
Sorry, Arden wield is what I was thinking of, where everything is
naturally in to the zone. This is nothing is constructed,
everything is grown or through like a kind of biomancy thing,
which is so cool. Go ahead, Lex.
I say this with so much love. I'm looking at these screenshots
right now. The word you're looking for is
Zynga Marsh. It looks like Zynga.
Marsh. Zynga Marsh, I will say, and I
love Zynga. So I'm like literally, this is
on record my favorite zone, so I'm over the moon.
But I was looking at it. I was like, well, I'm reading
the description and I really would expect it to look more
like Zynga Marsh. And I'm looking at it and it's
Zynga Marsh. I I would say like they have
this like Brontosaurus that it's like got a mushroom thing and
that's, that's Zangamarsh, right They.
Have mushroom cities, Manny. They have they have some fungi
cities and stuff, but like Zangamarsh may maybe it's just
too low res and that's why I don't put put it the same.
But they've got those roots that are going through and like grow
in, grow up into everything and. Maybe I'm literally tripping
out. I'm looking at these photos and
I think they might have actually copy pasted some zengemarsh.
Images like. I'm not even kidding.
All right, all right, let's just go in with Zengemarsh.
I, I, I can see where you're coming from.
I don't think it's a it's a one for one, but you're OK.
And then from from what? Let's consider Zengemarsh 6
point O. We have the void Storm, and the
void storm is like basically Koresh but like a lot more
jagged edges on the buildings. You've got the same mana forges
that they had in Koresh being repeated there.
You've got some things that kind of look like if the void met the
cult of Twilight, where it is just twisted metal and jagged
edges there. It looks really cool.
And that's going to be the final zone of the of the story.
So if you go through you can you start off course in ever song.
You pick between Zolomon and Karndar, and then once you've
completed those two, then you move on to the Void Storm.
So Lex, are we, are we going with Hondar as your favorite?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
First of all, again, I've always loved Zynga and I just knew that
I wasn't supposed to love Zynga. I, I don't remember why to know
that everyone tells me I'm not supposed to love Zynga, but I
love Zynga. And so the fact that I get to go
back to Zynga Marsh, but this time I get to fly easily, like I
don't have to like do any the thing and spend $1,000,000 like
I did when I was in Burning Crusade.
And I, Oh my God, I'm so excited.
I'm so excited. I love Vega.
This is going to be my favorite expansion.
I'm so hype. OK.
All right, Sean, what's your favorite zone out of these from
those just like the first impressions here?
I didn't see any pictures of these.
I don't know where you guys saw pictures of these zones.
OK, well Lex is going to share, share with you.
There was a bunch of pictures that were in the press kit and
such. I just went to Blizzard's press
kit and there's nothing there for midnight.
What? No, no, it's there.
It's there. OK, well while I'm going to
Passover link to Sean so that he can get some pictures, I do want
to talk about the prey system. And Lex, would you be willing to
talk about prey? Oh, you bet.
I'd be willing to talk about Prey.
So some of you may recall that in a few episodes back, this
might have been significantly many episodes back we were
talking about wouldn't it be great if there was more
challenging open world things? And I think somebody, not me,
was like, they're never going to do more challenging open world
things. That's so silly.
But they're doing more challenging open world things.
So essentially how it goes is you go chat with a guy forgot
his name. I think he's important, but I
needed my guildies to explain the cinematic to me so we know
I'm not going to remember his name.
You say, I think like what zone you're in and you turn on the
price system for that zone. And then you go into that zone
and you do things and you do like you're usually engaging in
your normal life. And while you're engaging in
your normal life, you get what the Dungeons and Dragons folks
will know as random encounters where suddenly things pop up and
you're getting attacked and you have to fight them.
And there's going to be increasing.
I think there's three, like I don't.
Oh gosh, either three people come out and then the big, I
think it's 3 encounters and the last one's big boss.
I should have written this down but I didn't.
It's OK. And so basically you go in, you
kill all these encounters and you kill the big boss.
You can do them at 3 difficulties, you can do them at
normal, hard or nightmare. And so, and this is all opt in
by the way. So it's not like you're going to
have to worry about just randomly questing and not
wanting to do the open world prey system and all of a sudden
somebody's whacking on you. Don't worry about that unless
you're in PvP, then you do have to worry about that.
But from this you can get cosmetics, you can get mounts,
you can get titles and you can get housing items.
So unfortunately you are not getting gear, but that's OK.
You get cute little, cute little things and you get to kill a big
boss. And in the Nightmare, the higher
level difficulties, the final boss is much harder.
I think there was saying in the Nightmare difficulty you
actually get like tied in basically and you have to fight
him in a very small zone. It's very exciting.
So, so we're hype. I'm hype.
Are you guys hype? I am honestly, this feels like
when you're halfway through a delve and the Nemesis pops up
just like expanded the pawn and put into the outside world like
that. That's how I see this.
And I'm sort of like, huh, I guess they really like delves.
So they're like, you know what? Why don't we have delves outside
of Delves? And I'm like, OK, all right, I'm
glad that this is the outside world.
I would hate if I like picked up a prey nemesis thing and then I
was in a mythic plus and so I get kanked by my nemesis.
That would that would be that was like my nightmare.
And then I'm like, I better just double check this.
Like, OK, good. It's in a particular zone.
It's an outside world system. This is cool.
Worst case scenario, I'm half paying attention, doing some
fishing and suddenly I get kanked by my by my nemesis.
But all I would do is just be like I'm going to fish somewhere
else. While I am dealing with this,
this prey system, the the difficulties, the normal hard
and nightmare difficulties, I think is great to allow players
to engage with it at their own comfort.
Again, you're right. This is something that you've
been demanding saying like we need harder open world content.
So I'm glad for that. I dislike, I dislike that it is
random for some. Like it's just like, oh, I'm
doing something and it comes out randomly because one, it kind of
reminds me of the mall where it's like, OK, we're just adding
this like additional affix where suddenly things happen.
And two, I would have liked to just be like opt in and I'm
going to do this. I would hate if if there's a
player out there that's like, oh, I'm going to do I'm going to
do a nemesis and then Oh no, my kids calling me or real life is
pulling me away. They come back, they forget
they've activated this nemesis and then bam.
Oh, no, this is not what I opt into.
Like maybe there's a way where you're like, OK, let me just
resend the contract and nemesis is like, oh, cool, all right,
we're we're we're not enemies again.
I'll leave you alone, bro. But it just seems like A at
least at the very least there should be a reminder when you
log in where it's like you have a nemesis active going or sorry
pre active. This is going to be like a thing
that takes a long time to get through because I was expecting
that it would be pretty quick. Like I, I would anticipate it's
like. I don't, I don't know, it's
multiple times before you deal with the last one.
I and like as quick as it may or may not be, I, I could just
anticipate somebody who doesn't have the play session that they
thought they did gets it, gets interrupted, forgets about it,
and then gets that unpleasant surprise.
So like in my in my mind, I always want to be able to opt
into it. Epidemi, who is a great source
of quotes, says that the Diablo Torment system is a great
example where you can set those wool tears.
They're experimenting with that in the Legion remix, and so
maybe that's something that that might come in as well, who
knows? I should.
I do also want to pause really quickly and say while we were
talking I was doing some digging.
I do not know where I got the number 3 encounters before the
boss. I pulled that entirely out of my
butt. Everything is saying that it's
just multiple ambushes, so don't quote me on that.
That was insane. You'll be cool first thing
though if you feel very smart. Three seems like a nice round
Number. It could be three.
Maybe it increases or with difficulty as well, who knows.
That will also depend on whether it's what I'm thinking where
it's like, you know, 30 minutes Max.
You pick a zone, you go like mostly you're like questing, but
you you really going there just to get your ambushes done so you
can get to the final boss. Or if it's more of a like, you
pick a prey a a week and every time you're in there, for all
you know you're going to get ambushed.
Which when I say it out loud, sounds significantly cooler.
Yeah, depends on how quickly you can cycle through it.
Like I, I definitely think that I agree with you being able to
pick it for the week and then it's like over the course of
like the week I will come across across these encounters and do,
it seems to me a cooler system than I pick it, spend 20 minutes
in a zone to like go hunt this thing down.
That to me just seems like a really zone wide world quest in
my mind. And I think that's less
exciting. What do you think, Sean?
I think that I am really glad that Lex is hyped for this
feature today as it's been announced and I desperately hope
that two weeks efforts release. We aren't having conversations
along the lines of why can't healers do this because it's too
hard? Why is this so easy as a group?
Why did becoming a group become the way to do praise?
Why is the only thing they give cosmetics?
Why does this feel like such a chore?
I, I personally, I mean, if there's cosmetics tied to it
that I want, I'll do it and I will have the level of enjoyment
associated with it that I get from farming cosmetics.
I just really hope because Lex is genuinely like, she's
glowing. She's so excited about this.
She's beaming with joy. I don't want two weeks into
midnight for Lex to have to say something like I play at at
Demon Hunter so it's fine, but all of my friends who plays
healers can't do this alone anymore, which is what's what's
going to happen because it's what literally happens every
time. Oh for sure.
And to be fair, I do like the fact that they set this with
only like, and I, I know this is a tender thing to say, a
sensitive, a sensitive point, but only like optional things.
So like cosmetics and mounts and things.
So, and I know that for some of you, you're yelling at your, at
your computers already. And that's fair.
I understand that for some of you that doesn't feel optional.
But at least for me, it's like, if it's gear, I feel like I'm
being a big jerk if I don't do them every week because I'm
letting my team down. If it's mounts, that's for me.
And so if I'm like, oh, this actually sucks and I hate it,
I'm simply choosing, but I'm not going to get some mounts.
That's OK. Nobody else is disappointed.
I'm just maybe a little sad. Just a little one less mount for
Lex. That gets her one bit 1 mount
closer to being a real player. I think that what we could do is
tuned. I think what we could do is like
have it tuned differently for different roles.
So like the same thing that they've done in Visions or when
you were doing any of those sort of things where it's like, oh,
it does more damage if you're a tank or have a tank in your
right, it has less health if you're a healer and and so
forth, that sort of that sort of thing.
I wonder if it if like it brings friends if you're in a group or
if it just goes like, oh, they're in a group.
I don't want to ambush them while there's numbers against
me. Either one of those would be
cool and like make the system feel a lot smarter.
If it if like you're, you're Hunter's like, oh crap, she's
got friends. Hold off.
Or you pick who your nemesis is. So it might like.
I don't know exactly how they want to play this but they could
make it so like certain nemeses are really hard hitting but
don't take as much to DPS down to make them more tank specific.
Or certain nemeses are like the depend on a mechanic that
requires you to be able to heal up things in the environment.
And certain ones are more just like pretty classic take hits do
damage more for your DPS. Like they couldn't make it so
you can kind of figure out which one you want to select based on
your class. And so you don't have to do the
like, oh, this one is impossible as a healer.
For the game, can other people see them?
Can they help you fight them if they see them?
If you're in war mode and you're fighting one, can I come kill
you and then you lose the contract?
I have many questions that I hope Blizzard has thought of
before they go live. Because if anybody else can see
them, when you're you can be out there fighting this thing and
then a group of people walk by and they just bang it out and
there's no challenge at all. And then it's just dead.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of things that can shift it around,
make it way easier, way harder. Definitely PvP open world PvP is
a is a question about it. I would hate if I just want to
fight in like open world PvP and then my nemesis decides this is
the time. Oh, that would that would hurt
so much. I hope that also it isn't like
limited attempts where it's like, oh, if I miss it on the
final challenge, then I don't get it or it gets it's reduced
somehow because that will immediately make the knives come
out. Yeah, it.
Should be once a week. It should be locked to once a
week. But they did put out a short
with all this information. It is as Lex says, just
cosmetic. You are getting cosmetics,
mounts, titles, housing items, but you are not getting any
gear. So in in any situation it is
just for bragging rights and cool stuff to show off next.
From there we talked about them bringing Dells into the outside
world, but they're not done with Dells in general.
I'm once again going to pass this off to Lex because we've
got 11 new Dells in the next expansion.
Yes, at this time we have her name for new companion, which if
they make me do Bran, like if they pull the vlog out from
under me and they're like actually it's Branigan, I'm
literally going to lose my mind. I will have an entire episode
that will just be me saying swears, I'm sorry Manny.
So new delves, an entire new set of delves.
You're going with the legendary bledelf rogue Velira Sanguinar.
And I did. I will admit that when I read
that the first time, I was like, wow, they really like the third
wind runner Sister has really dropped in the ranks of the
lore. But no, apparently not.
Sean's making a face that makes me think that I'm supposed to
know this woman. Yeah, Valera Sanguener is one of
the most famous rogues in the game.
At one point she was in the gladiator pits with Varian Ren
back in before he when he was lost his memory when he had been
kidnapped. Yeah, Valera is amazing.
She wears that red outfit and has the blonde hair.
Does that help? She's.
Like the blood elf with red outfit and blonde hair.
I literally you. Now I know.
You're welcome. No, not welcome.
Think Burning Crusade, Right. Like tight, tight like titular
rogue Burning Crusade. They wanted to show blood Elves
and they showed her they had a Maraud as the the Exodars
champion. That's the dry knife poster boy.
And they had our Sanguinar Rogue.
And then she was also in the Rogue Legion Order hall.
Order hall. She's been back and forth a
bunch of times. She predates World of Warcraft
entirely because she was in the Warcraft series before.
She's got pedigree. I.
Did think I when I googled her, I immediately recognized her.
I did think this was kind of like generic Blood Elf, which is
why I was making fun of Sean, but OK, the fact that this that
she has a name, I'm now caught up.
This is really cool. It's really.
I would like you to recognize how excellent my description of
the red outfit was. It was.
This was like, again, again, the reason that I mocked you was
because I was like, oh, yeah. The blonde blood elf in red.
Yeah, I know that one, Sean. Yeah, but you did.
I did, in fact. Yeah, that's cool.
I might actually do some delves. No.
No, I I'm I'm actually it's funny that I feel like her being
the delve companion feels like a downgrade for her.
And then but I'm just sort of like, you know what, whatever.
Like it's just like I think raising delves to have like big
characters like this. And I don't want to say that
Bran, he is a smaller character, but he's always been the like,
quite short hero's companion. I hate him, he's so annoying I
want him to shut up. He's.
Always been the hero's companion.
He's like from his from the get go.
He's just like, oh champion, I'll I'll run along beside you
and give exposition. So like him being the Delft
companion was like, oh, OK, yeah, sure.
Those webs will summon the Rubian.
Next time, let's pull out some hotter hitting moves.
Wow, I really I didn't. I really should not have tried
the accent there. It did not.
Go all out. I'm to go all out.
Before we start a start a swearing episode, I do think
it's going to be fun to see a healing rogue in action.
Or like the tanking rogue. Sure, evasion tank and all day
healing rogue. I I'm tired of people throwing
potions in my vicinity. Let's I don't know what she's
going to do. That's a good.
Well, because the other thing about Bran that I think is less
true for Valera, maybe. I don't know.
I didn't really know she existed as a core character until now.
Is it? Bran is inherently kind of
silly, right? That's always.
Yeah, like you said, he's like the hero's companion, but also
he's he has that kind of dwarf silliness.
And I don't know that that's the vibe.
I'd say they I had to give her. And so I'm really curious how
they're going to go about this, like whether they're going to be
like, well, now she's a silly character because she's the
Delve companion. Or if they're going to play this
a little bit more straight, which does mean that they're
going to have to figure out how she's going to be healing and
things without just like, oh, dwarven medicine guys throwing
the things out. I hope instead of healing that
she just stabs us to death. She's like, you're too weak.
She's like, switches her daggers for syringes and she's like, get
up, get up, get up. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's going to
be weird. I'm assuming that that means
Dells are going to be just generally more serious, as you
said, we're not going to have somebody stealing her hat in
Season 2 or whatever. We'll see where it goes from
there. Yeah, I wouldn't mind.
What, like seeing how they bounce, the tone, seeing how
they balance, like the various, various parts of it.
Now, we did say that there are 11 Dells.
They are all over the place. They are in all of the zones.
We have the Shadow Enclave, the Collegiate Calamity.
Oh, sorry, Collegiate. Can I just say which Blizzard
dev had a really tough time in college?
Like it was one thing they used to say like one dungeon that was
like, Oh no, the school's going crazy.
And now it's like every other patch they're like and what if
the school goes crazy? Yeah, I don't, I don't know.
You know, it could be like a general sort of like shared
trauma that every so often they get the interns in and they're
like, let me tell you about what it took to get this internship.
And they're like, we should turn that into a dungeon now.
We've done that before. Let's turn that into a delve
this time. Perfect.
The Parhelion Plaza. That's all I ever saw in woods.
Zolaman has the Dark way, Twilight Crypts and a Talaman.
The in Harndar we've got the Grudge Pit and the Gulf of
Memory. I'm telling you right now, the
Gulf of Memory is the coolest one out of these in terms of
name so far. And then the Void Storm has
another two, which is Sun Killer Sanctum and Shadow Guard point.
Then our torments rise is the Nemesis Delve for season 1.
Obviously that will change in season 2, but we had 10 delves
with a with the 11th being a the the Nemesis Delve.
Is that the same that they had in the War Within when it
launched? I think so.
Roughly, yeah. Three and Three and Dorn in the
Isle of Dorn, 2 in the Ringing Deeps. 3IN hallow fall. 2IN
Oscar hat plus Zach Fear. Yeah.
So there you go. We're we're back at it again.
Then we go into you dungeons and Sean as the dungeoneer, he in
this, I'll give this to you. Yeah, pretty excited.
And sad I the more the further away we get from we only play
the in the expansion dungeons in season, the more I wanted to
come back. But anyway, we're getting.
Every song Woods are going to have three.
Wind Runner Spire is being turned into a dungeon, so the
historic home of the Wind Runners will be a dungeon.
Magisters Terrace is making a return as a dungeon Magistrate's
Terrace the first time was merely a set back and they're
going to be trying to unleash some some void magic here.
And then murder Row, which is happening in Silver Moon itself.
It's one of the areas in Silver Moon murder Row and it's blood
elves that are smuggling some fell relics and demons that are
leftover from the Burning Crusade.
That is Zola Mom. We've got 2 coming in with the
Den of Nalarak, which is and Imani bearish.
It's the money bear Loa, and he does have some challenges to
test test before he will join us.
So we have to prove that we're worthy, which means that the
Soleimani won't bear the Imani trolls won't just be one note
villains throughout this. So that's nice and the Mysara
caverns also there we're going to save the weather bar who've
been abducted abducted by the vow branch.
Then we have a dungeon in Herinder with the Blinding veil
and then two in the void storm, one that says it's an arena
battle for the amusement of a powerful void entity.
And I'm getting shades of Trial of the Champion, which I hope is
true because then it means we possibly have a trial of the
Crusader style raid in the next year.
Which would mean no trash. Which would make me overjoyed.
And then the next is point. Zenus excited.
I'm excited. I love Eversong Woods.
I love the blood elf themes. I'm looking forward to it.
Zola Mom was a top tier raid when it came out.
Going back there's going to be great.
I am just really sad that we're only going to play four of these
in the first season and then not see them again.
Like think about a dungeon like Stone Vault.
Stone Vault was great. We saw the season 1 and now it's
gone. And if you didn't get the
mountain season 1, you have to wait until midnight because it
never came back as a mythic dungeon.
That was another one that we got in Season 1 that never came back
that we enjoyed is. That it?
Is it just? Stone vault?
I mean, I would have said Dawn. Dawnbreaker, but that's came
back, yeah. Right.
Cinderme Brewery was. Not anybody's favorite, so we
just left threads I. Like Cinderme, you don't do.
Dungeons I. Did during Cinder and you.
Thread wasn't playing. Either.
Yeah, I just, I don't know. I don't.
Love I don't I get it, people get bored running the same
dungeon over again farming the same piece of loop but just in a
higher up higher item level isn't super thrilling.
But for me that that I don't know I just I'm playing the
expansion. I would like to be immersed in
that expansions content for the duration of it.
Especially since they're cycling is these through so fast now at
an 18 month click like it does I think also.
Just to add 1 cute little complaint, it does make me feel
even more set back as a newer mythic pluser because it feels
like there's more of an expectation of those.
Like, Oh well, of course we all remember Mother Lode, we don't
need to worry about that. Yeah, exactly.
I think that. The part that you're talking
about, Lex was kind of worse when you would come in season 3
and everybody had been playing the same dungeons for 12 months
straight. So like, and in recent memory,
it wasn't like, do you remember this dungeon and oh, what
changes have they made? It was we've done this dungeon
for a year now. Get with it on week 1, so.
I didn't really play back then. I you're correct that I I
didn't, I wouldn't really know what I'm talking about.
I I do agree with all the points Sean said though.
Like it sucks that you're not immersed in the current story,
the current events and everything.
Delve stayed current by like refreshing the affixes, which is
what they used to do with mythic mythic plus in order to keep it,
keep it fresh. But I think this when we got to
Dragonflight, they, they didn't, they're, they didn't know how to
keep the creating new affixes. And they're like, though what
we're can do is just refresh the dungeon pool.
So I I want to say it's more a issue of keeping that design
train running at that speed helped push this.
And they had a number of other reasons that they considered
pros for it. Yeah.
All I can say is you've got more designers.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't hate it if they did.
Like here's the first, here's the first dungeons and two
returning. And then in the next season,
it's like, here's another two dungeons plus this mega dungeon
that we split into two parts and.
And some returning ones. And then in season 3 of us
having the like OG dungeons back was like what they did in
Dragonflight, but they also didn't have mythic zeros being
utterly shut out as well. So like the rotation is much
harder drawn in in the war Within.
And supposedly we'll see what, what the adjustments they do, if
any, in midnight. But yeah, I'd, I'd, I'd like to
be able to remember why stone core was a thing.
Remember why these dungeons that like I maybe struggled against
in season 1 have been like adjusted and they're fun in
season 3. Oh well, yeah.
Hey, why is Thrall on the War Within artwork?
We should have an episode. Where are we talk about that,
but it will not be this episode. I just because.
That's my background for my teleprompters, that key art
where it's like Xalatas standing behind the heroes and almost
looks like a Star Wars poster. And I'm like, no, throw us
there. The hell is he?
At the game. Anyway, sorry, I I just, I
normally have my camera there when I'm looking, I'm only
looking at you guys, but I have you on a different monitor.
So I'm just like staring at this right now.
I'm like, that's really gorgeous.
Why do we have him here? Because stories.
Changed as they turned into the old soul saga.
I will say though, when we're looking at the description of
these, these dungeons, I and we're talking about like, oh,
like you're challenging the bear load to get the support of the
of the trolls Nexus point is zenith or where it's like you're
the tension between our allies escalated and this is the
beginning of the climax of the story.
I'm hoping that this is pointing to a legion like zone setup
where you have the story of the zone which culminates in the
dungeon so that you have like that climax.
You have that like, hey, this is this is what we've done.
They did a similar thing in BFA, less so, but like that to me, it
made each zone really have like a good story that was that was
building up towards something. And it it felt like when we had
the the story on tracks that we did in the war within and it's
in shadow lands it it's made some of the zones feel like they
didn't really get their proper conclusion.
Looking at Arden wield and the trust.
I'm looking at like Volt Volt Vulcan story in BFA, like stuff
like that. So I'm hoping that that this,
this is a change. We've got story, not story mode.
What do they call it for dungeons, follower dungeons, so
that everybody has access to this, whether you're playing
alone and maybe have like a bit of anxiety playing in Group
content, or if you, if you want to push us on like heroic as
soon as you can, like that's all available to them.
So I'm hoping that now they're going to use dungeons again for
story with less RPS just for Sean's sake.
I don't mind them. In the levelling, put them in
for levelling, put them in for mythic 0, but just cut it out
for mythic plus. We don't need that, I think.
Kills my flow. Up faster they did, my poor God.
King dirty. I'll never hear his soliloquy
again. I am God.
King Scovald fight. OK, Then of course, once you're
done through dungeons, you've done all of the the story
campaign, that's when you hit the raid.
And so I'm going to pass this one to you, Lex, as somebody who
loves rating with like blind and experiencing it, experiencing
for the first time. Tell us a little bit about what
you're not going to be learning about before a raid.
Yeah, so. Raiding is interesting this
year. This at least the first patch of
the expansion. Because there's actually 3
raids. One of them is 1/6 boss raid,
one of them is a one boss raid, and one of those two boss raid.
So there's the Void Spire which is the 6th boss raid that.
Sounds to me more like. The standard rate that you're
kind of expecting where you're fighting the void, you're
dealing with the formidable foes and cosmic horrors, as they say,
that's your sixth boss rate. Then there's the dream Rift,
which sounds to me like it's more like the Heronier Heronier.
That's your one boss rate, so you're only fighting one boy.
Very curious how that one's going to go.
And then you have March on Caldanis.
Caldanis, I know how to speak. That's your two boss raid, which
I think is technically a spoiler if you talk about it too much.
So I'm not going to talk about it too much, but 3 raves and I'm
a little, I might have missed an announcement.
I don't know that they've necessarily told us if you have
to go through them in this order, right?
If it has to be Void Spire, Dream Rift March or if they kind
of leave that up to you. I know they've said that they're
all active upon launch, but I'm really excited.
I am on record. I know this is Lex's bad take
podcast. I'm on record saying that I love
Crucible of Storms. So I like the mini raids.
I think they're fun. I think they're cute.
I think they're a good way to like experience things with, you
know, energy and and they get to try different mechanics and try
things that are a little bit more complicated, a little bit
weird. So I'm very excited about this.
How are we feeling about the raids?
Let's pass this to Sean. Go ahead.
I yeah, I I mean, it's. Just I'm I'm sure it'll be
great. It's just one raid tier with
three locations. So instead of a single 9 bus
raid, it's just a. 9 bus raid broken.
Up into three locations, especially if they're all
dropping loot on the same like item level track, then that's
how that will play out. You'll have your raid night
where you'll go and do you know whichever 1 is considered
easiest and then you'll go into the next one and the next one.
I think the six box raid is intended to be the last one
because it is says it's where I thought there was a thing about
finding Salitaf. Or yeah, I can't find that
anymore, but I do remember somebody saying it.
Yeah, I read it somewhere that. It was hold on, here we go. 3
raids, new bosses. Void Spire 6 boss raid within
the Void Storm that serves as Alitat Stronghold.
The Dream Rift, A single boss raid that takes players to a
place where the fail between primordial dreams and brutal
reality is thin and March on Queldonas 2 bus raid with large
story spoilers. More details on this raid to
come later. I suspect March on Keldonas will
be the first one because it will probably be what we used to
unlock silver moon or something like that in the story and then
the rest of them following after.
But yeah, it's I mean, I'm looking forward to I think 99
bus raid is good. It's a little.
It's probably the cap for the number I would want and this.
Potentially opens it up. For some people to try some
mythic bosses who maybe they wouldn't, it's a lot easier to
get people together to try one mythic boss than it is to get
them to lock in for 8:00. So that's nice.
But I don't see this as like any groundbreaking change to rating
or the race to world first. It's it's just a nine boss raid
broken up into three locations, which is fine I.
Think that they have to be very careful about how they put this
forward if you OK, So looking at the current raid where we
assisted the straight track, well, I mean there's like an
option of which boss you take on 2nd, but like it's basically a
straight straight track through through the raid.
And so the difficulty ramping up is pretty linear when you have
three entry points, 3 if the if the 6th boss raid is utterly
linear, 3 bosses that can be approached as like anywhere
between 2nd and 6th boss, right? Or sorry, 2nd and 4th boss
rather you. I think that like how they tune
these is going to be weird. There might be like where you're
in that 2 boss raid and it's like first boss, fairly entry
second boss. What the hell, we got to go farm
something else. There's going to be that like as
you said, there's going to be a accept, accepted, widely
accepted, widely adopted path through this where, yes, it's
going to become nine bosses in a very particular order just in
three different locations. And I'm not going to like when
it's like, OK, we're going to clear through this and then
we're going to walk out of here. We're going to all pour it over
here and then we're going to clear, clear this one.
And then we'll go over here. Like that to me is hella
annoying and is going to ruin some people's raid nights just
because of the time lost going back and forth in between.
I mean, I'm pretty convinced. Story wise, it's Void Spire
March and then Dream Rift is kind of its own little thing
just based on the like little bits of information we have
about the story. So I guess I would guess that
it's less going to be you're popping around a million
different places and more you do Void Spire and like you do the
six bosses together, then you pop over.
I guess one thing I'm forgetting is that you guys tend to finish
normal on like Night 1. So we might be a little
different. I know as I'm speaking, I
understand the issue a little bit more clearly.
Yeah, but also Lex. If your team hits a wall going
through the six boss raid and you haven't attempted the other
ones, don't you think there's a point where we're like, oh,
we're really not working on this.
Let's go deal with like the other raid to go get some gear.
Like I think all teams are going to have that kind of discussion,
even if like they don't do it all the time.
That's fair. And I do, actually, I'm really.
Interested, as a raid leader, how we're going to approach
this, Because I think you guys are right.
There's going to be kind of a path that people take.
But I'm guessing that we are going to have some degree of
conversation about how we're going to go about this and then
how we want to make it work. Because, yeah, you know, if you
have a rough night, you can do March and get involved.
Yeah, I don't think you're going to be.
Able to, though I think the difficulty will be tuned like
the way I'm reading this. So six boss raid, 2 boss raid, 1
bus raid is you would do the first six bosses of the current
raid and then after boss 6 you would leave and then the next
two boss raid would be the next two bosses.
So bosses 6:00 and 7:00. So Fractalis and Nexus King and
then the one bus raid would be De Bencia.
Seen that example like that. I don't think you're going to
have the, I don't think if you get on boss four of the six boss
raid and you get stuck. I don't anticipate this is
assuming that the difficulty curve goes 6 bus raid, 2 bus
raid, 1 bus raid. I don't think you're going to
have the option to go to another raid and get Lube because I
think it's going to be tuned to expect that you had cleared that
six boss raid or vice versa. If you if you start on the 2
boss raid and you struggle on the second like I I expect that
there there's if I. Will be very.
Frustrated if they tune it so that the first boss of the two
boss raid is easy and the second boss of the two boss raid
requires that you've cleared the six boss raid first, but you
can't clear the six boss raid until you click if.
If that is the difficulty curve, that'll be brutal.
That'll that'll suck. It's going to be clear through
1, clear through 1, clear through 1.
So any rate team that clears all of normal, all of heroic in a
single night or even when you're in farm.
So when you're far, it's every rate team basically.
It will. I agree with that.
You don't get annoying. You'll lose time because of
travel. But I don't think this is like I
don't, I don't think this is going to be like some novel idea
that changes rating. I just think it's a nine bus
tier that includes more travel time than usual.
Were you guys playing? During Mr. Pandaria raiding in
during Mr. Pandaria. No, no.
OK, so Mr. Pandaria is the last time this this happened, but the
raids weren't released all at the same time.
You had Mogashon vaults. You cleared through Mogashon
vaults. You went into heart affair.
You cleared through heart affair.
You went to terrorists of the endless.
Sorry, terrorists of everlasting Spring or something.
It's it was just called toes. I apologize.
I don't recall exactly what that stood for.
So you remember toes? Though.
I mean, it's Alotaph season. Everybody remembers toes.
We're all thinking about the toes.
So. Like there was a very clear
path, but there was a point where it's like, OK, maybe you
were having issues in a later boss of the first the first one.
So you would clear through some of the bosses in Heart of an
Sorry Heart of fear. And thank you Epidemi who
reminded me that it is Terrace of Endless Spring.
Anyways, there was also an example if you guys remember BFA
where we had the battle for Tsar lore and then the Crucible of
Storms came out right after. Crucible of storms was really
13, boss 13 and boss 14. You needed to be geared from
from one raid to really have a good chance in the other.
And I think like if they do that, if they stagger the
releases so that it kind of telegraphs that it would be
best. But like right now what we're
hearing is that they're all released at the same time and
you guys got to figure it out. And I, I feel that is a man.
Am I asking for time gating? Is that what's happening here?
I think I'm asking for time gating.
Come at me, friends. Oh, that would be that.
Would be worse. Do not time gate this.
That would be horrible. This Well, I I this.
Is why I I don't anticipate that they are going to make it so
that like you go like I my guess is that the first boss.
I I I'm guessing. That Dream Rift and March are
going to be more complex because they're smaller, the same way
the Crucible was more complex because it was smaller.
But I, I guess I don't know, I'm really curious how they're going
to do this and I'm really excited.
I think that this could be really fun and, and give us a
lot of ways to move around in, in ways we don't usually have to
move around. For example, I'm really curious
how this is going to affect race the world 1st and whether there
might be something where like one thing I was really excited
about when they announced this actually is, I think I was
complaining a few episodes back that there's really no space for
other teams to be anything other than like first boss players.
But I can imagine a world where it's set in such a way that the
big teams hit voidspeer Voidspire immediately to try to
get the biggest, the most impressive race to world first.
But you can. There are smaller teams that are
competing dream rift in March. That said, as I say this, that
also means that you're splitting attention a lot.
So like who knows if anyone cares, But I I, I I can see a
lot of I can totally agree with you guys.
I can see a lot of ways this is going to suck, but I can also
see a lot of ways where this can be really cool.
And it's going to open up rating in in such a way that it's, it's
easier to plug in and teams getting more creative, right?
Teams that maybe struggle, struggle in, in certain aspects,
like teams that have like weaker DPS might have different ones
that they go on or teams that struggle with healing might have
things that they work on. And anyway, I, I'm, I'm excited
about this. I think this is really cool and
I think this has the opportunity to be really exciting.
I'm going to say it's all about the loot.
Where's the tear? People are going to stack those
raids real quick if they if it's within shooting distance and you
can sort of skip the final boss of the sixth boss one and then
get tear from the other ones. People will jump around for the
loot, even if the difficulty isn't quite that way.
So there's a lot of things that will affect race to world first
progress and like what they what they hit or not.
Like the quote UN quote optional boss has like boots that
everybody wants. So it's it's something that
people will hit. But like with this reset that
happened, did the teams go back and do do that or did they go
straight to try and like get Prague?
Sean, you be casting everybody. Re cleared, Yeah, everybody do
the full re clear. OK, yeah.
And they one shot every. Boss on the re clear because of
the nerves. Oh, wow.
OK, OK, so yeah, this is this will be interesting for for
rating progress both at the at home level and the race world
first. It'll be, it'll be cool to see
how that goes, but we've been talking about the Harandar and
where the here and there come from.
So it should be no surprise to anybody that we are getting the
here and there as a playable race.
After vanishing from the face of the earth at the start of
Undermine, they are back in a big way.
They can be Horde or Alliance. They are able to roll as a
druid, a warrior or hunter, a rogue, a priest, a mage, A
warlock, A monk or shaman. Obviously so many people are
looking at those druid forms and saying Druid, druid.
That means that you know you cannot be a death knight, you
cannot be a paladin, you cannot be an evoker, nor can you be a
Demon Hunter. Why you would want to be a
paladin clearly that's just somebody being masochistic, but
what what do you guys say here and are interesting you let's
start with you Lex I'm. Boycotting it because I still
haven't gotten murlocs. I will not be playing a hard
here. Mostly there.
There's other reasons that we're playing a hard here, but we're
going to talk about that in a hot sack.
So I'll we'll put a pin in that 10.
OK, OK, I like. That they don't wear shoes like
trolls and I like that they have feet like night owls so.
There you go, Blizzard. Blizzard was like catching in
the Lasala toes or like now you can play a race that you see the
toes all the time. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm in different. I'm, I'm glad we're getting
another race. I guess people like them.
I'm going to play the same 2 races I've always played So
cool. I'm happy for Pete.
Like, you know, I know there's a lot of people who are really
upset that the hair and hair weren't over every aspect of
Undermine and or Koresh because they don't understand that you
can start a story, beat and then set it down for a minute and
then pick it back up later. Media literacy is really tough.
And so they thought, well, they're not immediately talking
with them right now. They must not exist anymore.
Did Blizzard delete them? And they'll go to.
Their back, weird, yeah, a lot of a lot of appearance changes,
though. They look pretty cool.
Happy for folks to get a class that they wanted, the player
race that they wanted to play. You know, anybody who looks at
the Heron air and think, oh man, that's me.
I'm glad you can play as them. I think this is the.
First time that we are repeating a rate like a a race in the
allied races though, am I correct?
Because this is the second troll ish is that they're not really a
troll. Well, I mean, they're I want to
get an halfway step. Between.
Troll and and elves and night elves, yeah, and I'm.
Also being an idiot. Because dark eye we have dark
iron dwarfs and we also have earthen.
So I immediately am proven wrong interaction OK, but I mean like.
The Urban got deleted after undermine, so there you go,
deleted. But yeah, now we've got the hair
and R who have avoided that same fate and I'm interested in
seeing them. I think they did a good job when
they introduced the urban with their like local stories and
stuff, making them, making them seem really cool that I but I
haven't touched an Urban since the Harn air.
I think it's going to be pretty similar where it's like, Oh,
that's cool. And that's like a really cool
story. And then they're just going to
be like, OK. I think when Blizzard was
introducing races before they really made the expansion all
about that race, like burning Crusade was so blood elves, so
so deny and so and so forth. Like you had Morgan all over the
place and and goblins all over the place.
Now it's just sort of like a, OK, this is a a feature and
like, maybe I like the aesthetic or maybe I don't.
These guys I I don't like open feet like this not my not my
thing. Sorry.
I do moving right along. Can you talk about the new spec
coming? I think, oh man, I don't even
know who to throw this to because you guys, did you want
me to? Did you want me to?
Do this one you do over it. I'm going to get water did.
You want? Go ahead, legs.
OK, so. You all thought we were crazy.
You all thought we were ridiculous and silly.
We are getting a third Demon Hunter spec and it's void themed
and it's range and it's called devour.
It's mid range. Sorry, it's mid range.
It's called devourer. You're so again, it's it's
focused on soul harvesting techniques.
So presumably it's a build and burn thing.
I'm think I'm using words correctly.
You're doing some range, some meat and some melee.
You're kind of popping all in and out.
You can get void elf demon hunters now, which is super
exciting. And I, I, I, OK, I'm actually
going to spend a couple seconds. I'm going to appeal directly to
FAS dev FAS dev. I'm never going to ask this of
you again. I've never asked of it of you
before. I just need this one thing.
I need you to get me alpha access.
I need, I need this so much. This is the only time in my
entire life that I'm ever going to play alpha.
This I. I need to play.
Devour I'm so excited and if it sucks I'm going to be devastated
but Oh my God I've 'cause I OK OK OK here's the thing.
I'm not really a melee girl. I play melee because I enjoy the
Demon Hunter mobility and the way that it it moves like
movement is so part of the the spec.
Unclear if that's going to be true of our but I kind of can't
imagine a Demon Hunter speck that isn't mobile.
Like that would just be such a departure from a Demon Hunter.
I'm like why would you even make that a Demon Hunter speck?
Just make a new class, Not that I have any feelings on that.
So I'm hoping, guessing knock on wood, that this will also be
mobile and if I could have a mobile range class my life would
be set. Do you have any idea how happy
I'd be? This would be the greatest thing
that ever happened to me so I'm really excited about the power.
How does anyone have thoughts? I.
I want to introduce you to Hunter, which is a mobile range
spec that often can just keep moving around and do damage not
caring. But I do think that the mid
range part of this is pretty interesting.
This is them kind of doubling down on the evoker thing where
it's like OK, 25 yard range, not that 40 yard range.
Also making a Demon Hunter have an option where it's not in the
puddle of melee is is also pretty interesting.
I think that I, I, I think that this is definitely something
that could shake up stuff. It's going to be a question of
do you play Havoc or do you play Devourer?
Like which one plays safer in the mechanics?
You're getting that same buff. They're fighting over that, that
same spot. I don't know, like it.
It might just be in terms of like tuning what?
What's the utility that Demon Hunter brings?
Usually it's just that 5% magic damage buff and bringing its own
damage. Well, first of all, yeah.
The 5% would be pretty chunky if I'm also doing magic damage in
this case. I guess maybe I'm not.
I don't know how damage works. It doesn't matter.
I mean, darkness is always. Great in terms of like a a nice
little defensive utility? Well, I'd like to be sure, I
don't think. Maybe I'm about to look like an
idiot. I don't think every class has
like unique utility right? Like there are certain ones that
do really exciting things, but not everyone if you're.
Talking from a mythic bus perspective, demon hunters bring
Casanova so it's an ALE stun. They bring darkness as you
mentioned. They bring an immunity and
another walk. They bring in prison which is
nice for skips if they're a night elf.
And if you're playing and you're not a night elf Demon Hunter,
you're not playing seriously. They bring shadows or they bring
shadow meld. That everybody should know.
My Demon Hunter is a blood elf so I am in the non serious club.
So that's they bring those things and then yeah, from a
raid perspective, it's the you're looking at darkness,
you're looking at a potential nether walk immunity, good
damage, good self sustainability, high mobility.
Also many those fun and. They bring, they bring fun and
fun and it's. Fun to make fun of you when you
backflip off. The off the arena and that's
really good for. You to noom, Noom all.
Over the place, you literally knew.
It's so exciting. Oh my God, you guys.
I the problem is Devourer is going to come out and it's going
to be a like stop and cast like nothing like other demon
hunters, and I'm going to be the most disappointed I've ever been
in my life. But as of right now, it's going
to be so slow over the moon. So slow.
It's going to be awesome. You're going to be playing your
devoured Demon Hunter cursing that they can't do pray
correctly I because the tuning is off.
I did end up playing. Void Elf for like simply because
I got so committed when they announced void elf to being
excited about void elf that when it came out I was like, well, I
guess I'm playing Void elf until I switch to Demon Hunter.
So first of all, I'm going back to void elf.
But also the fact that I'm saying publicly that I'm really
excited about this means when it comes out I will feel obligated
to love it. Like I'm going to be like, well,
I'm determined to enjoy devourer, so I'm going to be the
biggest devourer since you've ever seen.
I mean, like you, you get to enjoy it on the alpha and then
you, you can ditch it when it goes live.
You're like, I had my fun. And then they made those changes
and oh, I, I gave it, I gave it a fair shot.
That's basically how you can't have trouble.
So. That is true.
I have to be fair. I'm saying I want alpha so bad,
but previously when I got alpha I like obsessively told everyone
how much they needed to play this game because it's the best
thing that ever came out. And then once it became big, I
was like, oh, I don't really like this boy.
OK, All right, festive, ignore that last comment.
We'll see if you can get alpha. But yeah, all of this is is
there. There was also a lot of talk
about housing, but unfortunately we are already at an hour here,
so we're really going to have to cut this short.
There's so much info out there. There's more info that's coming
on out later this week, so we will be going going through that
as well in the next episode. Before we run though, I have one
more thing. That's what I was about to ask.
Do you have anything? You want to add?
Yeah, one more thing. Transmog is going to be cheaper
and it no not free cheaper. The headlines on every single
website that said that transmogging will be free are a
gross misrepresentation of what the actual reality is for
transmogging. So they're switching to a slot
based transmog instead of right now.
The way transmog works is you transmog the specific item
you're wearing to look like something else.
The transition they're making is you will be, so you have to pay
every time you get a new piece of armor to transmog it.
The transition they're making is you'll be transmogging to the
slot itself, so you'll make your shoulders look a certain way.
That will still cost you gold, but it remains that look
forever. You pay once for the for
creating the outfit and then you can change the outfits for free,
but you still will have to pay for that initial outfit that you
set up. So not free, but much cheaper,
which is nice. But every you're right, Manny,
literally every single news aggregate website said
transmogging will be free in the war within in mid in midnight.
And they're all liars. They're all click baity liars.
I'm looking at you in chat. You know who you are, you click
baiter. I'm blaming him.
I know he didn't do it well, OK. I I I'm looking forward to my
almost free trans blog in midnight and I am looking
forward to the next episode because we have a lot more
information that is going to be coming out through Gamescon and
we will be going through that as well.
So make sure you are back here or jump into the discord bit dot
LY flat slash fast discord so that you can join in the
conversations. Until next time, though, may all
your hits be quits.