This is a net positive for everybody outside of title
range, so if you're not worried about title, feel good about all
of this. You will have a better time in
dungeons than you may have initially thought you were going
to. Victory for the Forsaken.
For Lauderon for the Karen Tour for Pandaria for calendar to
the. Burning region.
For Gilnaeus but has not died. For the Lich King, For the
Sindori. For the Alliance for.
The Horde for Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to
another episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, Manny,
AKA the Truvium. Manny and I am joined by the
other two parts of the Triumphant First coming all the
way from Oklahoma. We have Lex rants.
Hello Lex, how are you? Hello, Manny.
Happy housing. Week happy housing week happy
housing week I guess how has the World of Warcraft been treating
you Without going too deep into housing, 'cause we will be
discussing that without. Going too deep into housing.
It's going really well. My dumb idiot self was under the
impression I heard everyone talk about like gathering lumber to
do housing stuff. And I was like oh that's so fun.
I should also gather lumber to do what I'm sure is going to be
housing specific crafting based on a different housing crafting
system. And so I spent like an hour and
a half flying around gathering lumber and then I learned that
it's only through other crafting things and requires a lot of
other little things you need to pop in as well.
So I have a lot of lumber. You can supply the lumber if you
put on work orders. So if you want to get stuff from
either Dragonflight or from the War Within supplying the lumber
in that work order, right, you've got half the job done
already. So yeah, it's not not worthless.
That's a fairpoint. I was flying around calendar, so
I now have a lot of a lot of wood that's not going to be
relevant for probably ever. Got.
It OK, OK. And then also joining us, of
course, is the one and only cartridge bro or actually I
guess there are two cartridge Bros by default.
So that's not the one and only, but hello, Sean.
Well, I'm but I'm Cartridge Bros and he's Cartridge Bros P2P2.
The sequel, OK. Yeah, so there is 2.
You are right. I am the one and only Cartridge
Bros. Hello, Manny.
Who's the younger brother? It's him.
It's definitely him. How are you?
World of Warcraft has been treating me good.
We had a patch yesterday that the maintenance went long and
Blizzard was sorry the maintenance was going and
Blizzard put in an announcement saying hey this maintenance is
going to go long. But they had faked us and then
immediately brought it up right afterwards on time.
And I got to be honest with the size of the patch that came out
yesterday and everything that was in it.
Turbulent time ways, lore walking, the pre patch quest
line housing. No, I'm OK.
All this stuff I like to remember all that stuff came out
and it was a relatively seamless launch.
Like there was other than some issues with housing early on as
people were spinning up neighborhoods, there was like no
major issues. So 10 out of 10.
Kudos to the Blizzard team for for a very successful 11 point
2.7 launch. Probably the cleanest,
especially considered the size that I've seen in a very long
time. Super impressed.
I feel like Ghost of Koresh was a fairly smooth launch.
Or do they have to delay that a bunch of times?
Yeah, that got delayed like 6. And when it came out though, it
was OK, but they did delay it A. Bunch of no, when it came out it
was wasn't it super, super laggy and nobody could do anything?
I'm pretty sure Ghost of Crash came out and you you.
Know what it was? It was like the Dornigal lag
fest, but if you're outside. No, it was.
In it was in Tazewash people were like killing mobs and it
wasn't registering. The mobs were dead for like 1520
seconds later. OK it was you don't remember
that Tazewash was unplayable when ghost of crush went long.
I I must not and I'm on a dead server.
I'd like or maybe I've always left.
You to slow down and enjoy life you know, do a little meditation
you kill a mob you do you know some breathing exercises and you
get. You.
Yeah, Yeah, You think about it. Or you would tag and fight a
mob. It turns out it wasn't actually
there anymore. Somebody else had already killed
it. Was wild.
I Remember, Remember, I remember like that, like when you go to
the destroyed Dome and you have to like kill off the the slugs.
And it was so bad because of the Super late, super low spawning
and the fact that by the time you realize that somebody had
already killed it, it was like 15 minutes ago.
I do remember this. Yes.
OK.
Yeah. All right.
So good. Good that this one is much
better than that. So I'm glad for that.
And I jumped on late because I got I got home late last night,
played the story, really enjoyed the the prologue.
And we'll be talking more about that stuff in a moment.
But yeah, let's talk about our first house impressions because
with 11 point 2.7, as Lex has been talking about, housing has
arrived. You can now get your own little
homestead in Wow. First quick question.
I'll throw this to you, you Sean, then to to you Lex.
Alliance or Horde for neighborhood you do.
Do you do Foundation Point or do you do do the Razor Wind?
Whatever the hell the Horde 1 is.
We're Guild, my Guild, my Guild neighborhood is Founders Point.
We're an Alliance Guild so Founders Point we're locked in
all. Right, Lex, You and Tim O'mar
Tavern. Also Alliance and aesthetically,
I, we, we like immediately, once this was all announced, all of
the officers came together. We're like, we're doing Alliance
right. So aesthetically, it's magic.
I am the one hoardy wasn't my it wasn't my pick.
It was it was the Guild. Of course, again the Guild
neighborhood. But I am actually surprised how
beautiful the Horde neighborhood is.
I did not expect Dicks and mud huts to come together that well,
but here we are. And so I'm loving the
waterfalls. I'm loving the like combination
of things. Nothing like I mean, obviously
everybody is still stuck on your basic house.
So you're either human if you're in the Alliance or your orc if
you're on the Horde. And I am quite looking forward
to additional options. But how did you guys fare in
general? Did you like try it out, enjoy
it? Did you bounce off it quickly?
Let's start with you Lex, because housing seems more your
speed. Yeah, so I went in, I built my
little house. I learned a very important
lesson from Alpha and I did not get too excited.
So I have a cute little one bedroom.
It has a little bathroom off to the side, has a big kitchen, it
has a huge kitchen. And I went and I decorated all
that and I was feeling really good and excited.
And then I went and I looked at the frickin masterpieces that my
buildings are doing and I am as I'm a casual in this group and
I'm also a casual in house decorating.
I and I love my little house, though.
It's so perfect. It has it's little like dining
room table. It has a beard kitchen.
If I mention that the beard kitchen, I really love the
kitchen. I really I'm, I'm I'm doing wish
fulfilment here. Everyone else's wish fulfilment
was like a like hall that you know, for celebrating your
successes and these beautiful libraries and flowing magical.
And I'm like, I want a really big kitchen.
So you know, I'm I'm having having a great oh.
My goodness, I got to come visit your house.
Like I get it, you want to hang your, your like, heads of
defeated enemies and like all the celebration stuff and that.
But like girl, a good kitchen, fully stocked, Speaking my
language, Speaking my language. I have so much counter space.
All right. After this show, I'm going to
come visit, but we also have Sean.
Sean, how did you fare in terms of your kitchen core or whatever
you decided on? Yeah, so I didn't buy my I I
logged in on Pat Patchmont live. I logged in.
I did the pre log or prolog quest first.
Or is it is it an epilogue or is it a prologue?
Is it the epilogue War within or the prologue war at Midnight?
They on the official site considered a prologue, so we'll
call call it prologue. I think just because it is a
bridge, you could consider it either one.
Yeah, so I did the prologue quest and then I did the lore
walking, and then I went into our Guild neighborhood where my
entire Guild had been spending the last three hours going
crazy. And I went to my plot that I was
assigned and I bought my house. And then I logged off and then I
logged in today and I said I'm just going to go and fly or
sorry, I did the tutorial, I'm going to go.
So right now I have a house with four windows inside because you
have to place 4 items to finish the tutorial.
So then I went today and I was like, I'm just going to go and
fly around to all of the vendors and buy all of the things that I
have so that I know what I have access to.
And then I'll decide from there what I want to get more of, what
things I want to double up on for my designs.
That took 4 hours to hit a lot of the vendors.
It turns out I don't, I'm not. I can't buy a lot of the stuff
from the vendors because I didn't play Cataclysm and a lot
of the the world vendors in Eastern Kingdoms and Calendar
have requirements. You had to have done quests that
were revamped in Cataclysm, which I haven't done.
So I was really only able to get them from like major hub cities,
Stormwind, etcetera, and from expansions that were from Legion
and Forward I got from those. But even some of those were
locked behind achievements that I just don't have.
So like a lot of achievements that I don't have that I'll,
I'll never get. So it's just pieces of housing
I'll never have. And once I had all that stuff
bought, I logged off again. So I still just have a house
with four windows inside and zero other decorations added.
OK. And it's great.
Well, Sean, it may surprise you to know that your house is more
decorated than mine. You took your 4 windows down.
I didn't go with four windows because it started with two
windows. And then I'm like, well, I'm
just going to place a box into this corner and that you got to
pick out those two boxes for the thing.
I'm like, I'll just throw those back down.
Perfect work through. Then my friend visited me that I
had not talked to in a little bit, which is great that you can
like go to your battle Nets friends list, right click and be
like go visit their home and then boom, you're right there.
So I got a message from my friend being like hey, let me
and your doors locked you idiot. And so I got a impromptu
tutorial about how to set the permissions from my friend.
And so he saw it. He was like, oh wow, there
really is nothing in here. And I'm telling you guys, there
is nothing in there. There's.
Boxes. There's two.
Boxes, yes, there was two boxes. I've picked those up since and I
didn't do the world tour like Sean.
I did go to the like the center of town so I could talk to the
last architect and do his little Riddle, which I was like, oh
it's a haiku, that's cool and so forth.
I should do that again today. But yeah, after my friends like
scoffed it by poorly done place that didn't even have that, you
know, sofa or mattress in the corner or anything, we went to
his place and it's much, much more Immaculate and wonderful.
And then I toured around the neighborhood and going around
the neighborhood and seeing guildies like just so happened
to be going by, I think is a hidden gem of this entire thing.
It really makes my guilt feel like more of a community to
actually see them doing their thing and seeing their house
evolve and coming back and being like, oh, they've added this or
they found this. It's kind of akin to what you've
been saying, Sean, seeing other people do their like little time
lapse videos, except it's just like a little check and be like,
oh, cool, they've added this. I like that a lot.
So in terms of community, even if I don't like actively push a
lot of effort into my house, which might change after I deal
with this kitchen inspiration, I'm glad.
I'm glad it's in the game for all of the reasons that
everybody else enjoys it. Especially since on the trailer
there is a spot where people were getting married.
They've got an entire fireworks little sabbatical thing where
you could do all sorts of celebration that that's wild to
me. I mean they I guess they did
that in Final Fantasy before weddings.
Yeah, this is not. Wowhead came out with it and
people on Twitter I saw immediately proclaimed that this
was a tease of weddings coming to Warcraft.
It is 100% not that it is them showing you RP things you can do
in the neighborhood and the beautiful spots.
So if you're listening to this, what I, I am telling you 100%
guaranteed we are not getting in game weddings.
That is not happening. It is just them showing you fun
things you can do in the neighbor.
Cause the neighborhood has a lot of beautiful spots that aren't
housing plots. And that's what that's what that
was. But yeah, that was there was a
whole Wowhead article that spawned off of that, you know,
is Warcraft teasing weddings. They're well.
And, and because what are the things that I said was there was
a commenter who was like, wait, is this you secretly announcing
weddings and World of Warcraft commented, Well, it's not a
secret if you say it in the comments.
And my first thought was like, the marketing team wouldn't let
them say that if they were actually planning on doing
weddings. Yeah, yeah.
It's not to. Be fair, they did an April
Fool's Day jokes that then turned out to be our next
expansion because everyone liked it enough.
So if we like it enough, it's possible that they'll be like,
actually we are doing weddings. But I I do not believe that
right now. Anyone has a plan in World of
Warcraft to do weddings? I mean the the only thing they
really would need to add is I guess a toy where you open up
the wedding, the wedding ring or some sort of remote for that.
But like what? Like what would it what, what
would it do? Like there's no last name, so
you don't get the same last name.
You're not gonna like, what's the ability to teleport?
Clear do the emotion, the like, go through the motions and be
like oh wow, and. So adding, adding that toy,
Yeah, but they're like the the weddings themselves being
implemented as like a game feature.
Oh no. That's not gonna there's Yeah,
that's not. I was, I think that I was just
like enabling the RP of of like actually being able to do the
motion, open up the little box, right.
And and that sort of stuff they've added in lean recently.
So this that doesn't seem that far fetched to do something like
that, even if it's just a present sort of thing where you
like have your arms outstretched and like a little item shows up
there. That would be, I guess, more
multifunctional. But anyways, I do like
celebration spaces. I loved back in Mr. Pandaria,
they had the turtle celebration that you could go to on like I
think it was like Sunday evenings or something if you
could catch that. And it did like a little little
thing. If they add in similar stuff
with the, I don't know what's something they don't really make
use of the the micro holidays have that in like reflected in
neighborhoods. Would be very cool to like add
in events around town. But yeah, there is of course the
trailer and there is an interview with the dev, Jay Wang
and Garth Deangelis that was done by Wow Kia where they're
talking about like what's next for housing.
So as they've been saying, this is just the early access once we
get. There was another one done with
Taliesin and Nevittel as well. They interviewed two different
people, Jesse, the guy that is on Twitter, Jesse like the, the
head, the head housing guy, Jesse and one of the UX people,
one of the UI people from the the the dev team as well.
I can't remember her name. So lots of interviews came out
there, but at least two interviews came out that day,
which is nice. And there was another one that
was written in Screen Rant, I think, yes, that had a 20 minute
build at the end, about 20 minute time lapse built.
And there's a cart. Manny, you didn't talk about the
cart. There's a little wagon that
walks around the community. So if you're getting into your
community, you just moved into a neighborhood, you can ride this
wagon and it takes you on a tour around everybody's housing
plots. So you can like just spend a
little bit of time vibe it. I love the neighborhood.
I will say as a Horde player in an Alliance neighborhood, kind
of racist, like I don't think I need every single person to
comment on the fact like, oh, well, I guess everyone has to be
welcome here. And then like have them throw
out little comments like make sure you don't make trouble in
this neighborhood. Like, OK, my man, All right, my
bad. I'll go back to my damn house.
So that's. The black and red Tavern fits
Lex. Wait wait, wait wait wait.
Which race are you on your on? Should be blood out.
Got it right, because that's the only thing that could be Demon
Hunter on the board, right? Yep, makes sense.
Makes sense. I'm catching up now.
OK, that's kind of cool at first, but feels like it would
get real tiresome real quick. See, I, I know this just from
standing in the town for like a couple minutes, like doing some
stuff and trying to figure things out.
The, the text lines are really fun the first time you see them.
And then like within a minute, somebody has walked by you 10
times within like literally 60 seconds.
And every single time they've said, this feels like a place
where I can finally let go of the trauma of the war.
Can you like all right dude? Like moving.
On like, I don't think you're letting go as effectively as you
think. I Loki, hope you log in one day
and someone has vandalized your house.
Just eggs and roboheads all over.
That's right. Oh.
Man. Oh my goodness.
OK, that's funny. But yeah.
Any plans to like build more now that you've seen what other
people can do, Lex? I think for my main house in the
Guild, I'm going to purposely kind of keep it small because I
know myself and I know that if I were to take on a much more like
ambitious project, what's going to happen is I'm going to get
halfway through it and I'm going to get really frustrated and be
like, I'm going to go do this later.
This is why my bathroom right now has patches like that have
not been painted over because there's just a few more steps
that I need to do. And the like the amount I'd have
to do to get it all done is just annoying me.
And so it's going to take me a bit of time to like build up
that mental resource and in a video game that's simply never
going to happen. And I'm simply never going to go
into my house again. Whereas in my cute little one
bedroom, I can put it to a point where I'm excited about things.
And so now I can be like, oh, I have really cute kitchen.
I want to go focus on the core items that are going to like
really spice up my kitchen. But I don't feel like I have to
build an entire library. I am thinking because you get 2
houses, right? You get your alliance in your
hoard house. So I might just get an A hoard
house in a public neighborhood kind of just to play with and
that I might do a little bit more like I, I'd like to like I,
I don't know, like a, a very, a specific hall style or something
and, and see whether I want to go specific fun little ways, but
without the pressure of like this is the house my guildies
come with. OK, Sean, now that you've bought
all this stuff, is there a point in the future where you feel
like you'll make the time to like actually decorate?
Do you not hear Manny? I'm done.
I have 4 windows. All right, I gotta, I gotta get
on your level. Around my neighborhood.
Y'all ask? I could ask such stupid
questions. I got a good window guy.
Listen, do you need help? I got a good window guy I.
Saw a tutorial for like custom windows and I was just like Nah
doesn't. Feel mine are.
Mine are basic windows. Mine are super basic windows.
Yeah, and the blue ones, the blue windows, if you flip them
around, you can actually see through them so that instead of
being the blue light glowing, you can see through them.
But the really fun part is if you flip them around on the wall
inside your house and you haven't built like a fake wall
with something behind it, you just see the wall.
You just see the wall through. Them OK, so you.
Have to I guess without a fake. Walls and then a or like behind
it. Do you like some sort of
scenery? Yeah, you have to build like the
scenery behind it, which is gorgeous, but it looks like
you're looking for a window, like you're building like a
diorama. Window, but I love that they
have this. But what I have built, what I
have built is 4 picture frames with no pictures in them and you
just see the wall in the background.
It's a beautiful house. It's it's simple.
What's that song where it's like my house is a very, very, very
nice house? Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. My like very pop girl self fully
thought you were about to be singing House tour by Sabrina
Carpenter. I don't even know the song.
I don't want Sabrina Carpenter to ratio us, so we're not going
to be using any of her. Music, yes.
OK, but this is a World of Warcraft show, so we'll start
talking about some other things, including eleven point 2.7, the
rest of the patch. Because yes, we've been talking
a lot about housing and there's of course a lot of discussion
about that. I wish I had a second me that
could like spend time doing housing, but then that second me
could also spend time making gold or like, you know, working
and then I can just raid and do Mythic plus all day.
We need a third B that could do housing is what I'm saying.
But. What makes you think that third
you is going to be any more likely to want to do the things
that current you doesn't want to do?
That was something I was worried people were like, I want to
clone. Like what?
I what makes me think my clone is going to want to go to my job
that sucks any more than I want to go to my job that sucks.
Sean, this is literally a Calvin and Hobbes strip.
Like a Calvin and Hobbes storyline, is it?
Yeah, Calvin makes a ton of clones of himself.
I'm not going to remember the details, but he makes a ton of
clones of himself. And I think they like Rebel
because I don't want. To do anything, I love it.
I think, I think clones of me would be organized enough to
like take shifts sort of thing, right?
Right. Manny I I do believe this about
Manny. I think that if Manny made
clones for himself, he would like absolutely just like hammer
out the different World of Warcraft thing.
If I made clones for myself, my house would be unlivable because
it would be multiple people just singing nonsense songs to my dog
at the same time. Yeah, my clones, my tea budget
would just go way up. Sean, you'd think that you were
the British person in this show. No, I'm the old one, Lex.
I'm the old one, Yeah. Oh, Manny I.
Drink tea too, just so we all know.
Oh, that's. I have Dungeons and Dragons
theme tea. I'm sorry, we're supposed.
That's the service of tea. Our audio listeners only.
Lex is currently chugging a glass of vodka.
OK, anyways, yes, we were talking about 11 point 2.7, and
the prologue includes, of course, as Sean was saying at
the top of the show, the prologue campaign, which
involves heavily the Wind Runner family, all current surviving
members of it. And I really did enjoy that
storyline. I felt that it really makes me
realize that World of Warcraft can do some engaging
storytelling and then they forget about it for months at a
time. Yeah, more, more please, more.
Anyways, I did not do the new lore walking, which is the elf
story, mostly because it's a lot of things that I have already
done. So I've done the heritage armor
for the Blood Elves and it covers that.
I've done the near tainting of the sun well from Alaria and it
covers that. So I'm not entitled like a lot
of it's retreading for me and so I wasn't rushing right to it.
But Sean, did you enjoy that? Yeah, I have also done all of
those quests before, but it was really nice to go back.
It's sort of doing the quests is a repeat, which isn't.
I have a thing for elves, so I don't mind doing redoing the
quests. But the nice part is the bits in
between where Laura Walker Cho explains parts of the story and
just listening to, I guess Jim Cummings is his name.
Just listening to his voice is so nice.
And he like breaks down sort of the story of the blood elves and
talks about Arthus attacking the sun.
Well, so even though we're redoing quests that we have done
before, I really enjoyed the entire package of the lore
walking because there's little extra bits to read.
Or you can like ask him, Hey, tell me about Kale fast.
And he's like, Kale was a punk bitch.
That's not what he said. I love Kale fast.
I'm sorry. I don't know why I was trying to
be snarky and it didn't didn't land.
I love Kale fast. But anyway, you can ask him for
like extra stuff and you get these little written pieces and
then he talks about stuff in between.
So I thought the lore walking was really nice.
I've I've really enjoyed all of the lore walking that they've
given us so far and I think it's an excellent delivery method for
asked story that players might have missed.
And the prologue also was was 10 out of 10.
I have actually mentioned it today earlier when I was talking
to some folks that I've been kind of lukewarm on the story of
the war within ever since we left 11 point O 11 point O 11.5.
I thought we're both great, very well written. 11.1 and 11.2 I
was very non plussed with and could have done without entirely
undermine to be honest with you and did not enjoy.
I enjoyed Koresh less than undermine if you can believe it.
But and I didn't like the story and either but I feel like the
prologue really brought me back in.
Maybe it's because it involved Windrunners?
I mean, Larry was. I like the Windrunners.
Through 11.2 so yeah, but. She was getting back with her
stupid husband at some point. I didn't.
I don't want to play that after after that happened after they
like made-up and they shouldn't have No, no.
Oh, well, you're wrong. Tyrellian is a gem.
No, we can have that conversation some other time.
Well, the we, I mean, we could turn.
The side piece? Not Tyrellian.
Her side piece Husband. Well, you're not talking about
the fight between her and her. Her mentor mentee breakup.
No, I hate Tyrellian. Oh.
Tyrellian. And I hate, I hate Malfurian.
I hate most of the husbands in the world of.
Warcraft. Wow, that's spicy and we will do
a separate episode about that. Oh my God, Torellian is the hero
we need in midnight. He has done.
No, we're not doing this. Sean had an entire stream about
this, but we're not doing it this year.
Just want to say I'll give you the TLDR. In every situation,
Torellian has always made the decision to protect the people
that he loves, and he is never once shown that he has the
propensity for villainry that a lot of people think that he
does. No.
No, don't respond. Do not respond.
We're moving on. We're moving on, OK.
I know what we're doing this weekend.
We are we may we may be doing a bonus episode pre empting the
bonus episode we were already going to do.
But once you get through all the story elements, which includes
the Lord walking, there's still more to do because there's a
story that's involved with the parrot, the Pandaren heritage
armor. I haven't done that yet.
I did see a bit of it on the when the IT was being spoiled on
testing. So grown up Lily, like, Oh yeah,
I guess Andwin isn't the only one that gets affected by time.
And so I'm I'm looking forward to jumping on and doing that.
I've got a Pandaren that's still back in Dragonflight that I'm
100% going to jump in and do do that.
But I think I don't like the outfit.
I think it looks dumb. Oh.
John. I'm OK with it.
I actually don't. Most of the Heritage armors, I
think are like, OK, yeah, there's very few that I wear.
Every torn is the every torn one.
I'm like, Yep, that's good. I don't ugly.
Are you serious? I don't think Torrance I OK, you
like Torrance and you like their heritage armor.
So I will say, OK, I'm glad to you.
But you don't. You don't.
You're not an enjoyer of that. I don't like anything human.
I think every single trans mug ever designed looks horrible.
On a target OK, except. For the torn trans mugs, those
are. Expensive.
No, those are off. We're elite.
Will torn should just. The hair, the torn.
Heritage armour is so. I love it the the storm wind
heritage armour I think is pretty iconic.
Yeah, the storm Wind stuff is great.
I like the storm wind stuff. The Forsaken 1 is pretty good.
I'm in beveling about that one. I don't think it's horrible, I
just don't. It doesn't inspire me.
It's very plate. It very much looks like you're a
warrior, though it doesn't give much room for like casters or
earth rogues and stuff. The mag car orc might be the
best set I really liked and it comes with the different clan
culture and not clans. What are they?
Their clans different clans of the.
Orcs yeah, it comes with their different colors.
So really like that one and then I think it's about it actually
low key hate the Void Elf 1. I don't think it's good at all.
I think the blood elf. 10 I cannot possibly disagree with
you more. Blood elf one is BD you like
the? We're we're gonna we're gonna
have to do a ranking later on. But yes, Pandarian heritage
armor that allows for the last one that was missing on.
I'm glad for that. I guess the next thing we'll get
is maybe weapons or decor based on heritage quests, who knows.
Drakthir don't have heritage. German Drakthir don't have any.
Heritage. I'm not even going to, I'm not
even going to bother with that. They are so half baked.
I they don't, they don't count. They just don't count.
I want you guys to know that Manny uses the term scaly in our
private chat a lot. I do not.
I have nothing but love for our Stafford friends in the vault in
Valdoon. You guys are amazing.
Scaly is a pejorative and we should not use it.
Anyways, starting this week through to February 9th, we have
the time walking. That's the turbulent time ways.
Which means that there are more new mounts that have been added.
And in fact, I think there are so many that there's no way
unless you've got banked coins that you're going to be able to
afford them all. I think that there's like 4
different ones, one for each covenant that are in a new thing
and they're all, they all cost like the same 5K as as regular
bounce. So you're either going to be
working on this for a while or you've got it stocked up
beforehand. But yeah, 3 till February 9th
all the way through the holidays.
Do your time walking get get that done.
That can help gearing if for some reason you've got a
character that is not doing Legion.
Like that doesn't make sense to me because this is offering
heroic gear instead of the normal champion gear so.
Once a one piece of. Yeah, I said help.
I didn't say it was going to be a fantastic way.
I said help. OK, that's true.
That's true. There is if you're not a mount,
if you're not a mountie and you care about trans mug, there is a
bunch of new trans mug as well. But specifically, I'd like to
shout out there are four hammer trans mugs.
It's really 21 is one hand or one is 200 and then two
different colors each. And you should go buy those
right away. It will cost you.
I think it was 8000 total tokens is what it cost 15115 hundred.
Yeah, it was 8000 total tokens to buy all four.
If you're a paladin that there must have there must purchase.
They look really, really nice. They can't get them without
them. They're going to Yeah, you
actually have to Yeah. If you don't lizard put a sign,
a sign of that. If if you haven't bought if
you're a pilot and you haven't bought them by the end of this
reset, they actually are going to delete that character.
Wow. And make you roll a drag here
and not even be a right? After I spent how much real
money on the ash Springer now I got to replace it with this this
transmong all right, so be it. A delayed release is next week.
We are getting the brawlers Guild Brawlers Guild is coming
back. They've done a number of changes
to this. They've remixed the order,
they've added in a few new fights, they've changed up how
some of the old fights work, and they've added challenger cards
for those of you who hated waiting for the exact fight to
show up that you wanted. Now you can use this challenger
card and it will get you into the right fight so you don't
have to wait around as much, which is very important because
of how much stuff we just went through.
I don't have the time to wait around in Brawlers Guild like I
used to. It is just sort of go, go, go,
and then, yeah, that is about it for 11 point 2.7.
There's of course like a number of smaller changes in there.
Dragon riding that you talked about last week, Sean has been
revised in there. So do check out those patch
notes for that. Anything else that you guys are
excited about with this patch or do you feel like this is going
to carry you through the holiday season?
I'm already done. I mean, I guess I have to do the
heritage armor, the heritage Pandaran heritage armor quest,
but I can't do that until I transfer my remix panda out of
remix, which will happen when I finish buying all the things in
remix, which I'm pretty close to.
So other than that, I I'll do the brawlers Guild when it comes
out next week, but that'll be a one day thing for me and I'll
have hopefully all of the stuff I need from that.
I've done the questing and like I, I, I super, super want to
stress, I love housing for other people, but I know that I, it's
just, it's just functionally not something that my brain is going
to let me do the way that everybody else is doing it and
loving it. So when I say my house has four
windows and that's it, it is not a reflection on housing.
The housing feature has launched.
It feels so fleshed out and so full and so great and it's
brought so much joy to everyone, including me that but I'm done.
I'm like, my house is done. Yeah, OK.
Well, what about you Lex? Or is your time going to be
spent in housing? Are you happy for the the
holidays to get that done? Probably mostly going to be
housing. I have done nothing else in 11
point 2.71 reason I've been quiet during this entire segment
like not a thing I've been in. I've been housing mode.
I logged in the second that houses where I like literally
like I was like running into when I learned that the servers
while I was running in with my plate of pasta to eat my dinner
in front of my computer and everything has been housing.
But I I I do want to get into some of the like, at least I
want to play with her a lot. So definitely going to this for
me. I think it's going to be a
perfect amount of content and most will be happening.
All right. Well, with that said, Sean, do
you wanna thank our our patrons and listeners?
Yeah, I'd love to. I wanna give a special thanks to
all of our listeners, all of our patrons.
Manny usually writes the name of our latest page.
I'm just going to give a little look behind the door.
So Manny does show notes for us. And this patron section is
always scripted and I almost never follow the script this
time. So whenever we get a new patron,
Manny says special thanks to and then the new patron's name goes
there. Manny doesn't want to delete the
template that we have. So this template just says
special thanks to asterisk, asterisk, asterisk.
And I wasn't sure if that was somebody's name that I was
supposed to say or if that was me.
My key to say we didn't get a new patron this week.
Please skip over this. So.
I think it was your could you just say the worst swear you can
think of? So that man.
Special thanks too. So in the future, listeners, to
prevent this happening again in my brain from freezing mid,
thank you. Please, if one of you guys could
just organize, if all of you could organize and then once a
week a new person come to the patron, just even the free tiers
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But while you're doing that, I want to give a special thanks to
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And more Faz in more people is a good thing.
OK, with that said, yeah, it looks like people are seeing red
or maybe not seeing red anymore because combat add-ons are still
allowed to provide some level of competitive advantage because of
a work around that the add on depart.
Well, the add on community found and then Blizzard decided to
say, you know what, screw it, it's OK you guys, you guys do
it. But they didn't make any
announcement that they were going to bake this into the
default, which creates a schism in in functionality.
So to talk about this platonator, which is an add on
that changes your name bars realize that based on some
conditional information, they could highlight different
enemies that were bosses, lieutenants, casters mainly, or
like minor enemies based on the these attributes.
And this is something of course, Sean has been asking for for
many, many weeks. And so he is very, very happy.
This is something that I had said in past weeks.
Well, this definitely feels like something that Blizzard would
not allow based on their on their philosophy.
And somehow we've gotten to this point, which irritates me
because they're not sticking to their philosophy.
And I think that if they're going to allow this, they just
need to bake it into the default UI so that they don't get into a
similar situation, which was the entire reason behind the add on
Armageddon, the add on de escalation, whatever it is.
Now there are some caveats on this because it one of the
conditional things is that the mob has to be casting something
that can be interrupted. Casters won't be by default
marked as a different color until they start their first
cast that can be interrupted and then played.
Inator catches and says oh that's a caster.
I think that that is both a pro and a con.
It is a con 'cause you don't know what you're pulling as a as
you're pulling it, but it is a pro in that suddenly a name bar
will change color, which is a highlight and you'll be like,
oh, I that's what I've got to interrupt.
So very weird set of things. I think that because it's if
this can stay as a one off, if this can stay as a one off.
I don't think that the floor and this new ceiling has such a gap
that people who are using the default are behind by 1000
miles. You are behind flat out.
If you're using the default UI in midnight, you will now be
behind because of this. It based on this situation,
which is something I don't like, but I don't think the gap is so
high and I actually ran a key today where I did not have my
plater working and I was able to interact with the current
dungeons. But I think that's only because
I had like absolute juicers running with me that were
covering it and I don't like that situation.
So I think that if they bring it up the base UI up to this new
standard, we are once again heading in the right direction.
And I think that that's generally a good thing.
The other part to this is that we've seen a number of
adjustments to the UI where Blizzard is massaging their
relaxed or relaxing what they are allowing or not.
And yeah, in general I think things are heading in the right
way. Lex, you're a mythic plus
neophyte basically. I believe that you're not
somebody who has ever used add-ons that would like mark the
different things. So do you think that if this, if
you walked into a Myth Plus today and your bar suddenly
started being marked its different colors, would you be
able to, without any other prompting or research, be able
to figure it out? Or do you feel that you would
need to there would be an additional learning curve for
you? Not out-of-the-box.
I think I'd like immediately I'd especially, and I'm actually
kind of also trying to put myself in the mindset of like
just a, a brand new player, right?
Like somebody who is not engaging in these conversations,
who's not thinking about add-ons at a like complicated level.
And I, I think I would probably be pretty confused, but I, I, I
feel like it's something that, yeah, there'd be a learning
curve, but I would figure it out.
And I don't think I, I guess unless the colors were like
really jarring, I think worst case I'd to ignore it, right?
Like, I, I don't think that it's something that is going to super
throw me off. I think it's also putting myself
in the mindset of like a new player who's never really done
this before. You know, if I were to walk in
in their color, I'm like, oh, that's the thing the game does,
right. So I personally, as a mythic
philosophy fight, first of all, I, I'm going to, I'm going to be
the little Blizzard stamp for, for this one.
I you'll my read of this and of course I'm not in the dev, the
UI dev discord. I'm not convinced that this was
Blizzard allowing them like to do this as in Blizzard being
like, Oh yeah, for sure. That's totally fine.
We're super glad you figured that out so much as Blizzard
being like fine yeah okay, you're going to color code them
based on what the name and okay, sure sure sure whatever if you I
have to make housing and 10 things are breaking and everyone
is yelling me about the UI and you're figuring out some stupid
way to look at the levels fine okay, okay, it's yours.
So I I'm a I'm convinced that Blizzard is happy about this and
it's just the number of things that have to turn off to make it
so that people can't do workarounds like this would make
us yell at them again and B I'm also convinced they're not going
to kind of take the L and do it themselves.
This came out a day ago, I think so to be fair, and it was a busy
day it was a day that they were dropping one of the biggest
patches they have ever dropped with an entirely new system.
So I personally am not going to make I, I, I, I think that this
can be, I would guess that right now Blizzard just kind of like
putting a pin in this and they're going to figure out what
they want to do next later on. But I, I, I think at a low
level, I, I don't think this would be game breaking or like,
I, I, I can't imagine a world where everyone's like, oh, well,
I guess this means we have to all log in and download play
playtenider to, to make you, you said the name five times.
We know that I can't. Even though it was Platonator
that started this, it because well, one, it's going to be
popularized to all the other UIUI authors or add on authors.
They're going to bake this in. This is going to come in like
Plator. This is going to be in like
whatever version of LV UI takes over after this.
Like this, this will become kind of a new default for for
anything that touches on name plates.
That's fair. And I, I think what we are
learning from this and probably the take away that listen,
probably you should have thought of before they did this whole
thing is of course they're just going to be in a new arms race,
right? Like, of course it's going to be
another like, well, these are the functionality that we wanted
to take. Like I'm sure that somebody's
going to figure out some work around for how they can identify
at what time certain spells are going to come out so they can
yell frontal, right? Like I'm sure that things are
going to start getting worked on and.
Already already exists. Really.
Yeah, the reminder system as it exists now, fully functional
out-of-the-box. I can go in and the way you set
MRT notes, I can go in and set a personal reminder note that will
tell me what to do in every situation.
It won't trigger off of possibilities, but the
possibilities are all on timers. Yeah.
So I'll just it's already done. It's just going to be more work
for people. Right.
So, so ultimately what we're doing is we're just making a new
arms race. And I, I, I understand why this
is frustrating for Blizzard and they want us to just not do
certain things. They can write the game they
want to write. And I think this, this is just
gonna be the next, you know, however many years where they're
gonna, things are gonna pop up and they're either gonna squash
them or they're gonna say, like, throw up their hands and be
like, OK, fine. You can know who casters are.
OK. And then Sean, on your, on your
end, I'm assuming it's it's smiles and happiness and
rainbows and gummy drops. Yeah, I'm thrilled.
I think this is great. It's I, but I don't think it's
great because I want some competitive advantage that I
don't think players should have. I think this should be base
functionality. I think all of the enemies, you
should be able to tell at a glance what they are.
They they are obviously either struggling to change their
naming conventions or have given up trying to change the naming
conventions because we've seen no change on that in multiple
weeks on the beta. And you need to be able to know
at a moment's glance what mobs are the most important, right?
You can't rely on which one is the biggest model in the pack
because that's that doesn't always work that way.
And so I think this is I think it's a functionality that needs
to exist. I was crying for it before when
they told us we weren't getting it.
I was very sad. But now that we have it and
they've essentially said, OK, you have it.
I think it's great. I do think they should build it
in functionally in the game. If they don't, you're just like
I would say today, you're doing yourself a disservice if you're
using bass Blizzard name plates. I would say going into midnight,
you're doing yourself a disservice if you're using bass
Blizzard name plates. If you don't have this, even if
you're only doing twos, threes and fours, if you can make your
life easier, make your life easier.
Don't you know what I mean? Like I see people who died on
this hill in retail now of like, I'm not installing a week or a
pack because I don't need it. Like, well, why not make your
life easier? I don't I don't understand you
intentionally. Like I don't know.
Anyway, that's why I think it's good.
I've I've was really, really close to being snarky and saying
I can't wait to find out what else we're going to get back
that we have now that we thought we were seeing.
But we already know because we have some notes from from the
add on dev discord and from the blue notes of stuff that's
coming back. So I'm pretty excited.
We are. I mean, we spend a lot of time
dooming and may have lost a listener too because of it.
And I apologize if you left because you thought we were
really upset, upset, but you're not hearing me apologize because
you left. So here we are as you stayed.
I'm sorry that we were upset for so long, but I really do feel
like the world if you go back and listen to episode 1 of beta
talk from us or Alpha talk from us.
And if you listen to what we say when patch comes out in, you
know, January 20th, which for everybody who's like everybody's
like, oh, we have until March 2nd.
Don't worry, they have all kinds of time.
This drops January 20th. January 20th is when when all of
this stuff goes live. So you lose access to all of the
stuff you have now, January 20th, not March 2nd.
That's a whole month sooner, month and a couple days soon, a
month and 10 days sooner. Anyway, when this goes live, I
think we're going to be closer to the world we're in now.
Especially based off patch notes from today and information on
the add on dev Discord. That should be public.
It shouldn't be in a hidden away, tucked away place.
That should get there should be like A blog post every week that
comes out with that anyway, with we've talked about
communication, but we're getting closer and closer to the world
that we're in now, which just makes me ask the question of
like, why? Why are we?
Was it really just to stop weak Auris?
Like, yeah, I mean. Anyway, computational stuff is
gone, so that's good. That's a huge plus.
Yeah, the computational stuff is gone.
I think that the, the smaller things that we're getting back
are putting us at the point where we're reaching that 90%
and maybe we're coming at it from the wrong way.
We were really hoping that it would be like, OK, here's 100,
here's 96, here's here's 90, OK, I, I can live with that.
But really what we ended up was here's 40% of us being like,
whoa, that's 40% guys. And then them bring it back
there. But the other part of it, of
course, is the design philosophy that needs to go with this new
reality that they're sculpting. And we've seen a lot of that in
between our episodes, actually a little bit with our episodes as
well. We've seen them doing things
where they've changed the way dungeons are laid out.
So standardized short casting. We've seen all of the
shortcasters being like 2.5 seconds.
That's a way longer to interrupt then we have seen before and
some things that like shoot stuff with some important cast
being at 4 seconds or longer for you to interrupt.
So if you see a long cast and they're like really
concentrating on getting that spell off, you know that that's
something you need to interrupt. There have been videos about how
this combined with the longer interrupt period, school lock
period has now made it a lot easier to lock down a single
caster with one or two people. They've combined that with the
fact that there are less casters in in the in the packs, which is
something that I had not seen when I was doing the original
testing, especially in like pit of Sauron and and such.
But they've now pulled back on that.
And that means that with the reduced casters with certain
things now being changed. So we don't get what has been
coined by the community community as bolt slop, which is
something casting and then casting and then casting.
And the only difference between it and like an Archer is that
you can't interrupt the Archer. That being heavily reduced in
terms of not only how many there are, but also the amount of
damage. In fact, like it's you're
looking at like a 20 to 30% damage reduction.
You combine that again with the fact that casters are less
likely to prefer the same target, which means the damage
is getting spread out, meaning that you're not looking at
suddenly going from like 100 to everything targeting you.
And Oh my goodness, I you better have like a defensive or five
interrupts or that that particular guy is dead.
That guy over there, he's screwed.
All of this means that like individual casters are less
deadly by default damage, less frequent in terms of casting
right, less common in terms of how often they are showing up in
in dungeons. And I think that this is going
to influence the way that people are pulling where you can pull
some large packs, but what you might be conscious off is how
many casters are in each of those packs.
So instead of pulling let's say 5 packs each with two casters,
you say why don't we go this way and pull 5 packs, but only two
of them have casters. And then with only four casters,
hey, we don't have a healer that can interrupt because we don't
have a shaman because special, special shaman, we can actually
deal with this. Or if some of these cast get
through, it's not going to one shot people and we have the
stops to bridge gaps in that way.
And so if they're doing it in this way, it seems a lot better
for groups, especially if you have an aware tank.
I think in in pugs routing is going to mean more if like
interrupts can get to that like very deadly level.
But even but in low levels, having some go off isn't going
to be the end of the world. And of course, coordinated
groups are on a different level and that can be a separate
discussion. Sean, what do you think of all
of this? Mythic Plus is infinitely
scaling content. So as I read the article in
their statement of like, oh, they do this much less damage.
Yeah, but as the content scales, that damage is going to scale
up. So it doesn't matter if it's 30%
less damage in a baseline. Eventually it's going to get to
a point when that those bolts that they do cast infinitely
will kill you if they're not kicked.
So we'll see what it means at the top end.
That's a 1.1% problem. So it's not really one for the
the majority of the player base, but we will see what that feels
like at the top. And it's going to be really feel
really bad if the thing that is limiting you in keys is, you
know, grey trash mobs that are killing you because their frost
bolts are getting off because we don't have enough kicks.
That's going to feel really bad. The reason it felt differently
for you and I, Manny is there was a hot fix.
So with the played at the start of the week, it sucked.
And a lot of the videos that you saw there, maybe the start of
the week showed how bad it was. Then there was a hot fix and
that's when this Wowhead article came out after that.
So that's why they saw less of it.
I putting more onus in the tanks and knowing what routes to pull
and how many casters they can pull based on the group comp is
not. I mean, if we're I'd like for us
to not just the solution just be make tanks do more every time.
But that's sort of the situation we're in.
The the cognitive load just gets dumped on the tanks and but it's
OK, we have a ton of them. The mythic plus is full of tanks
so that won't be a problem. There's the SAS.
As the non mythic plus person. Two things that maybe I'm not
understanding. So first of all, with the like,
oh, it'll suck if you're if you're limited by trash, but if
there's fewer casters, wouldn't like, wouldn't you hit the point
where you're limited by bosses? Like if if if right now you're
not getting limited by trash, and you're hitting a point where
you're getting limited by bosses before the trash is limited,
would you not then anticipate that you'll still hit that boss
ceiling before you hit the trash ceiling?
We're not limited by trash right now because we are able to stop
all of those casts through AOE stops, CCS and interrupts.
And we're able to do that because we have access to see
what everybody in our group had. Like this is at the absolute
highest level. They know what everybody has.
So every single no casts are getting through because they're
all planned. We're stopping it with this
ability then, you know, at each point, but we no longer have the
ability to see that. So I don't know if you have Cap
Totem available. I don't know if you have Chaos
Nova available. I don't know if you have disrupt
available. So it makes that planning and
coordination much harder to call a mid key.
So that's where a single bolt getting through could one shot
somebody. That's where that concern comes
from. Whereas now at the highest level
they are stopping all of those because they have the ability to
coordinate those stops. We, we have, we have lost
potentially depending on what this note from today's blue
notes means, potentially lost the ability to coordinate those
things as A at a group level, and even less so in pugs.
If you're not in voice comms, Like if you're in voice comms,
you still have a chance, but if you're not in voice comms, you
will be doing multiple keystone levels below what the people in
voice comms are doing. Got you.
OK, that actually also answered my other question because I
think that what I was not understanding was that switch to
to losing stops. All right, all right, I.
Got you and like the the routing.
And it's so I just one more thing, it is less, it is less
casters per pack, they said. And they target people less, but
it's like instead of two casters and a packets one.
But you're never pulling one pack in mythic Plus you're
pulling 3 or 4 packs usually at a time and you can hopefully
route around that. But in some dungeons you can't
like put a Sauron, there's not really a way to route around and
get 4 different packs. You're like you're basically
pulling the things in order that are in order.
And especially, especially linear dungeons like Black Brook
Hold, for example, we don't have that next season, but that's
just an example of a linear dungeon.
You're like, well, I got to pull what what's here in front of me.
So it's not always possible to to just alternate what you take.
So wait, sorry, I'm also on that.
I'm also on the Wowhead article. And so now I'm having multiple
thoughts at the same time. But so one thing the Wowhead
stresses is that the way that they're managing the damage
should make this more in line with like an Archer, right?
So you can let more casts get through.
So I guess and, and, and, and the, the interrupting is a
benefit. It's not a requirement.
Like it's, it's mostly just damage.
So again, on the question of like, why would this shift your
your key? Like like why would this then
create a cap? So the.
Why would the casters create a cap in a way that, like general
melee that you also can't interrupt wouldn't create a cap?
The melee are only hitting the tank.
No, no, no Archers like if they replaced.
No, but she hasn't. I I did.
I did not recognize that, but yeah, yeah.
For The Archers they are a massive problem.
If you watch he's like Priory of the sacred flame.
They limit severely how many Archers they pull in a pack and
they will use stops to to stop their casts as well from going
through because they will kill people.
So they are also a massive problem that they're using hard
stops, hard, hard and soft CC to stop.
And so not every caster is a bolt slop caster, right?
Not every dungeon has like 1,000,000 bolt slop casters.
The reduction of it should mean that you come across this issue
less often. And I do think that at the
highest thing where you cannot allow for a single cast to get
through, which should be a limiter before Archers, like
because you can't, there's less options to to limit Archers than
there are. I think.
I think that is generally just a change to the meta.
We've had seasons where people have pushed higher because.
Just in general, the way defensives have worked and the
way that house pulls have been, you're able to push higher or
like you've put together the God comp and they cannot be one shot
at the level of of anything else.
And so they get the the push higher, that variance is going
to be different season by season.
We're just more able to pick it out this one because we can see
this coming. But of course that depends on
tuning as well. If like the 20 to 30% general
change for this is combined with like everything hitting like wet
noodles and we start hitting 30s, it's not because of this.
It's because of whatever other change they made.
And so like there's a lot of question in how they develop
that in general though and I. I I do want to be super, super,
super clear. This is a net positive for
everybody outside of title range.
So if you're not worried about title, feel good about all of
this. That Wired article is positive
news. You will have a better time in
dungeons than you may have initially thought you were going
to. So that is, yeah, I want to be
like super clear that that that is they are.
This is designed for the vast, vast 99.9% of the majority of
players. It'll be better.
Somebody has to. If somebody doesn't worry about
those .01 title players, who's going to?
The .01% of title players that have an outsourcing.
Boy. They are literally a minority of
players. Won't somebody think of the
titlers? What about those people who
really love their RP and dungeons that that we just don't
get any RP anymore? My God king, he used to talk he
used to pontificate. They cut him down.
Look what he did to my boy. He.
Pontificate. Manny, those RP enjoyers, while
they're out collecting their mounts and their follower
dungeon runs, can still get their RP all they want, yeah?
They just not in dungeons. Man, we used to.
We used to meet matter. Blizzard just hates us.
But that's also combined with a number of patch notes that we
got today. So much to go in.
We do stress look over these patch notes.
They're massive adjustments for various classes and specs.
Healers have had their throughput hit so that they can
readjust numbers because they felt that they were getting too
spiky. Look through these patch notes.
But one thing that we did want to pull out that that that's in
with this is that Blizzard's added in audio notifications for
spell cast. That is both for players and for
NPCS. So right now the NPC has to be
your target. But when your target starts
casting, you can get an alert, right?
Which is definitely helpful, definitely something great.
The one thing that wasn't mentioned that I immediately
thought of was I would really like my focus target to give
that alert. Currently there is no, there is
nothing that is documented saying that you're it'll work
with your focus target. But if they could allow for
that, then organized groups could easily be like, OK, this
is what you're this is what our pool is going to be when we pull
these looks. You're going to be interrupting
Archer. Sorry, magecaster #1 Sean,
you've got magecaster #2 Manny, you're healer.
I'm sorry, you don't have any interrupt.
You're going to watch magecaster #3 shoot a bolt right to your
face. But at least we would be able to
be like, OK, here's my focuses, right?
And then cover that I but again, this looks like another push to
like restoring some functionality into the default,
which wasn't there before and bring us that much closer to
90%. So in general, pretty happy.
Again, like we said last episode where you weren't here Lex right
direction. It's do we get there on time And
each each week things are looking better and better and
we'll be happier and happier. We would just love if we if they
could give us a heads up on like what they feel they're unlikely
to get done before the patch goes live and before we are
rating because we also got another last minute
announcement, which is the entire raid date schedule for
Season 1 of Midnight. So Sean, what are those dates?
So the midnight season 1, so midnight launches on March 2nd
or 3rd if you're in the EU. And then you have two whole
weeks to just vibe it out, level, do the zone stories, get
your UI figured out, work on your house.
If you need a window guy, let me know.
I got a good one. And then March 17th, the week of
March 17th, we are going to get the Void Spire and Dream Rift
raids. We'll get raid Finder, wing one
for void Spire and Dream Rift. There's only one boss, so it's
just all the raid Finder. And we're also going to get
normal and heroic difficulties. This will also be PvP Season 1
start and we'll get bountiful delves then.
And we'll get heroic and mythic difficulties for season 1
dungeons. That's not mythic plus, that's
Mythic 0. So we're getting Heroic week
back, which we knew there were. This isn't this isn't a
surprise. Ian has said in multiple
interviews that at the start of an expansion they want to give
us Heroic Week. So we have Heroic week back.
That's what this is so, and all of you who hate watching splits
for the Race to world first, Congrats, you don't have to.
We have a heroic week. Then the week of March 24th, the
next week we're getting the Void Spire, the Void Spire Raid story
mode. We're also going to get Raid
Finder Wing 2 and the mythic difficulties.
I believe Raid Finder wing 2 will probably be the rest of the
bosses because it's only a six boss, right?
It'll probably one to three in the first week.
And then I know it's not it's two bosses per wing.
It looks like 'cause I just read ahead.
So we'll just be bosses 3 and 4. But then we're getting mythic
difficulties on Void Spire and Dream Rift.
And this is when Mythic Plus season 1 opens.
So March 24th Mythic both mythic for both of the raids that are
available and Mythic plus opens up.
This is like the the real start for a lot of the Pve players and
then a week later, March 31st, this is when we get void Spire
raid Finder wing 3. So this will be the last two
bosses in void Spire or maybe just the last boss.
I'm not sure how they're going to break that up.
We don't have that information and then we're also getting
normal heroic and mythic March unquell de Nas on that week and
then April 7th, the week after we're going to get March unquell
de Nas story mode and raid Finder, which would be both
bosses. It's 2 boss fight.
This is huge for the Race to world first because it means
they can condense it into maybe 3 weeks, probably more likely 4
weeks, which is still a long time, but it's way better than
it would have been. That's that's starting from
heroic week up until the end of the last boss of the last raid
dying. But it's still way better than
the potential five or six week slog we were looking at.
And this is in line with what most everybody expected.
It follows along with what they did with war within with the two
weeks at the beginning to just sort of exists in the world and
launching all three difficulties of March on quelled and asked at
the same time. Huge advantage.
That's that's a big W. I'm really glad they're doing
that. Yeah, I mean, I'm excited for
like the continuing story. Like, we started off this
episode talking about how like, oh, we're getting back into the
story. I'm excited for these fights.
I missed the second day of normal rather heroic testing,
which is the fights that people were saying we're closer to
bangers than the first day of testing.
But this week we've got mythic testing all lined up.
So hopefully they've like made the adjustments and they're all
going to be bangers. And yeah, just excited to get
into Midnight, get into Mythic Plus and warts.
Warts can be ironed out eventually, hopefully sooner
than later. But new season always gets me,
gets the energy going. Yeah, I mean rating is my thing
as you guys know and I'm excited for this.
I'm admittedly also excited to try rating without we Goras and
DVM and anything I have mentioned a couple times.
I think that I'm actually in the group that is you're gonna have
a lot more fun now that like no, there there's no pressure to do
DVM and go with it. I'm really excited to try a
genuine blind tear where nothing is telling us, Oh, this is the
frontal. Oh, this is the soak and you
have to like actually figure it on the fly.
So I I think I'm really excited. I think it's really fun and I
love having a couple weeks that I can just hang out and just,
you know, play my little game, slowly get my into my houses and
then still be under cured for rape.
I I really liked, I think it was shadow lands where we got 3 or 4
weeks before we went into raiding.
I I. I can't maybe I think we had.
Seems wrong to me I think. We had one week without mythic,
Mythic zero opened up like a week and then you could do like
2 weeks of farming mythic 0 and then the raid opened up.
That doesn't ring a bell to me, but that doesn't mean it's not
the case. Shadow Lands was a long time ago
and it was during COVID and I was doing a lot of drugs though
so. For for legal reasons.
For legal reasons? Yeah, for legal reasons.
That was a joke. So guys, we are now closing the
Midnight Epic Edition contest. The winners have been contacted
and we would like to say congratulations to Panda Chow,
to Nick Beresford and to Random FF14 who all won an Epic edition
from for as well. So congratulations to you all.
We really do love doing these contests.
It's a lot of fun to get people, you know, excited every time a
message. It's just like a lot of joy.
So we really appreciate that. And we'll look to do it again in
the future. But until next time, may all
your hits be kids.