1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,920 I too, miss zoning into a time walking dungeon and finding 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,400 myself gifted with a beautiful twink that hired Gary's. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,000 Hired Gary's. The run. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,240 Victory for the Forsaken. For Lauderon. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,720 For the Karen tour for. Pandaria. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:31,400 For calendar to. The burning region. for the. 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:40,240 Sindori for the alliance for. The horn for Azeroth Hello and 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,720 welcome to For Azeroth episode 389. 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,480 I'm one of your hosts, John, and today I am joined by the 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,360 delightful lexer Ants Lex, the World of Warcraft and treating 11 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,960 you. It's been treating me very well. 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,080 Shawn, I am doing you guys are not gonna believe this. 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,160 I've been doing Mythic Plus and I've been having a really good 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,440 job. Like are having a lot of fun 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,360 with it. I don't know that I'm doing a 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,080 really good job at it, but I've been doing a good enough job 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,200 that I've started calling mechanics and stuff. 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Not like the obviously I don't know the the dungeons themselves 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,680 super well, but I'll be calling like affixes and like, oh, OK, I 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,360 don't know if this is true. I kind of get the vibe though, 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,120 that I am like the way that they developed the like glowy you 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,560 gotta kick this cast. I feel like for whatever reason, 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,280 it works better in my brain than the average person, which 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,800 doesn't seem like it should be true, but I feel like everyone 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,520 is constantly like not seeing them and I'm like, but it, it 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,280 flashes. So anyway, I I call those 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,800 sometime, not always. That's a good time. 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,800 I've been really enjoying it. So we'll see if that keeps up 29 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:44,480 and my team tolerates the fact that I've run inertia build in 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,360 Movie Plus. I love that they might not be 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,800 seeing. That's actually a feature, a 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,320 toggle that you could turn off so you can't always see. 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,120 Like you have to turn on, highlight important casts, get 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,680 those on there. So it's a possibility that the 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,680 people you're playing with don't have that turned on and that's 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,920 why they're unable to see the important casts. 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,720 But it doesn't matter because they've got you to call them 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,280 out. That's huge. 39 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,639 What? What key range are you in where 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,880 you're comfortable now? So we are doing a lot of 10s, 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,560 although we have not timed a lot of 10s, but so, so I I think 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,160 that is kind of where we're hitting right now, which is it 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,680 is always very funny when like in the for Azeroth discord, 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,200 which isn't joined at Bit dot LY slash faz discord today, people 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,920 were like, yeah, you know, like time walking's hitting a little 46 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:32,920 bit around a a + 10, which I mean, plus 10s are easy. 47 00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:36,400 You know, I was like, oh, for you guys maybe, but some of us 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,640 are bad. Which if you if plus 10s aren't 49 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:43,200 easy for you also, that's OK, Bastie, you're as good as me. 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Take that as you will. Yeah, it doesn't. 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,400 It actually I don't think. I don't think I don't think the 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,720 difficulty of the keys means you're bad. 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,320 You're just not as experienced in them. 54 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,080 You know, if you're not as geared up, if you've not been 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,320 running them all season. Familiarity, even just 56 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,320 familiarity with the dungeons makes a huge difference, which 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,640 you're probably noticing as you're seeing these important 58 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:05,400 kicks and and remembering, you know, the next time you come to 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,000 those packs. Hey, I know that this Hexer we 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,160 got to kick that guy. Yeah, yeah, and even just little 61 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,440 things like the number of times that I've kicked something 62 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,800 stupid just to like try to get a little bit less damage and then 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,360 all of a sudden there's a big glowy cast and I'm like, OK, 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,040 this is bad. Hard to tell everyone that I 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,080 don't have kicks. Yeah, I, I, I do think, I mean, 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,960 to be fair, I've done literally a handful of mythic plus this 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,320 entire season, so it's not surprising that I am like, this 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,640 is kind of new and I the big mechanics are always the big 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,920 things. I like the boss mechanics are 70 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,240 the always going to be the big ones. 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,240 And those are often you kind of do have to know funky little 72 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,160 stuff to get it. And we never like horrifyingly 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,360 overtime key. Like I've been in some key runs 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,240 where like we're kind of sitting there looking at each other 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,560 having a little bit of that. Like OK, so like at what point 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,960 are we going to call it like we all want the gear and we all 77 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,280 said at the beginning we're just waiting for completion, but it's 78 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,680 been like 2 hours and I don't know the gear that much. 79 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,280 So nothing like that. It's always been like, you know, 80 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,240 a couple seconds, not a couple seconds, like a little bit 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,320 overtime. Like, oh, we could have done one 82 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,080 pack a little better and then we would have been fine. 83 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Very cool, very cool. Lex, however, is not the only 84 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,720 person joining us today. We are also joined by the ever 85 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,760 punctual Manny. Manny, how is the World of 86 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,840 Warcraft for treating you and how are you doing? 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,760 So as listeners may have guessed, that punctual was a 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,440 absolute lie. And I apologize for Sean. 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,040 He's usually factual, but today he decided to try and be funny. 90 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,680 He sounds pretty angry and incoherent honestly. 91 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:43,800 Yeah, that's right. Negative. 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,200 I'm negative. There you go. 93 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Still my favorite. My favorite listener. 94 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,760 If you're out there still, I hope I've done better for you. 95 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,880 You know, it's funny the people that touch our lives and have 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,240 that lasting effect, and I'm glad you have that. 97 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:03,280 But to answer your question, World of Warcraft has been 98 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,720 pretty damn great. Let me let me paint you a little 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,680 picture. Let me tell you a little story. 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,560 I was sitting down with one of our Fazzers, part of the fast 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,800 community that is multi owl, and we had a little talk about 102 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,280 mounts, about RNG, about the grind to go get whatever. 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,960 And it was a lot of fun. And of course, we've recorded 104 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,960 that and that'll be out for all of our patrons and then they'll 105 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,040 be a general release as well. And so I was like, OK, you know 106 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,560 what, I'm going to, I'm going to roll up my sleeves. 107 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,720 I'm actually wearing short sleeves right now, so not these 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,920 ones. And I'm going to go do some 109 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,720 mount collecting. And let me tell you son, let me 110 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:55,280 tell you, the RNG was with me today or other yesterday and I 111 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:59,160 got another drop. So that is the fourth of the 112 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,920 rear mounts. There's like 8 of them in total, 113 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,120 2 per zone, 1 flying, one ground mount. 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,280 Bam, Zandalar. I got the flying mount. 115 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:08,800 So loving that. Then I said, you know what? 116 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,240 Let me try a little bit of that that grind. 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:18,400 So I put myself to work and I went through and I got the last 118 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:24,320 of the like 500 of these, whatever you call it, so that I 119 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,880 can get another mount. And I got that out of the way. 120 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,080 And you know, it feels good to get those little accomplishments 121 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,000 out. I'm happy. 122 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:34,000 I'm, I'm relaxing and everything. 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,040 So I'm like looking and seeing what's next on the checklist. 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Like I said, there's another four of the RNG mounts. 125 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,560 There is the vile taint mount that might not be what's 126 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,000 actually called. I'm sorry. 127 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:52,240 I should call her. Vile essence. 128 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Vile essence. I'm sorry. 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,640 I've said Lex. We've lost Lex anyways. 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,400 Vile essence. Yeah. 131 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:07,440 So you got to get 1000 of those. John, let me tell you, I'm at 80 132 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,680 something. It's going to be a while. 133 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,080 But you have to farm those in the Mysara Caverns dungeon, 134 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,040 correct? No, on the normal and heroic. 135 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Just outside of the dungeon, you can farm the rares that are 136 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,800 around there and like I'm geared enough that they're not as nasty 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,480 as they were back at the beginning of the expansion. 138 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,200 But also you can like my warlock is in the middle of a quest that 139 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,320 took it, took them in there and then gets this extra action 140 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,240 button plus a helper to make it easier. 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,320 So I'm going to run around on the warlock, do that, try and 142 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:51,560 farm that up and we'll see. But that one seems like a lot 143 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,760 more for grind. Like I know 500 a thousand at 144 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,840 that point, like you're going, but like the drop rate is a lot 145 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,960 different too. And it's not like you're just 146 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,840 going around and get and killing rares and stuff and then getting 147 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,160 disenchanting mats, which is what I was doing it before 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,000 mostly. So we'll see how that goes. 149 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,400 But yeah, mount farming's been pretty good. 150 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Worked on the the professions like I was talking about last 151 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,240 week. Finally got to the point where I 152 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:28,320 can now craft the better value vials. 153 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,920 I forget what what the exact name of it but it's the vials 154 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,240 that you would make potions in and flask and stuff. 155 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,200 So I can now craft that without any concentration. 156 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,159 Which is good 'cause you know the base level ones sell them 157 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:48,320 for like 2-3 gold, the the higher value ones A130140 gold. 158 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,240 There's a big difference. There and it's just something 159 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,960 that people are going to want. So I'm just like, you know, time 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,040 to make some gold, baby. Like that. 161 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,480 Everything's coming up. Manny. 162 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,960 That's great. What a great change. 163 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,560 Happy to hear that. Warcraft's been OK for me. 164 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:07,400 I installed Final Fantasy 14. Yeah. 165 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,960 Not because I'm unhappy with Wow. 166 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,200 It's just I'm at a point in the season where we're progging 167 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,680 Laura, we're getting pretty consistently into P3 and we've 168 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:21,400 almost got P3 solved so we're probably looking at a kill 169 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,360 sometime in the next two ish resets. 170 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,640 But mythic like my characters are almost fully Bis here and 171 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:34,320 I'm not a key pusher. I am doing the plus sixteens on 172 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,680 one of my tanks because a friend of mine is a mount collector and 173 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:44,080 I'm just helping him. Yes, he's like quite good at the 174 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,080 game. But yeah, so I was just like, 175 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,120 you know what, the Final Fantasy race to world first, which is 176 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,880 not what it's called, they call it something else. 177 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,200 They call it like RWE Race to World. 178 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,040 I don't know what they call it. Anyway, that's happening. 179 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,320 And a couple of friends, Lithian Sigh and Rook are casting that. 180 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,880 And I said, let me pop in and see what this game's all about. 181 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,760 And yeah, it's, I mean, I'm super early into it. 182 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,080 I I don't have any thoughts on that, Right. 183 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,600 It's an MMO. I got to ask you because there's 184 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,480 a couple things that you talked about and I just want to ask a 185 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,280 little bit more. Drex, explode, your mage. 186 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,560 What spec did you go with? What are you doing with this? 187 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:28,840 Why did you decide that you're going to jump on Adps after all 188 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,560 your tank love? Well, I wanted, it's nice to, 189 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,040 There's a lot of responsibility in tanking and it's nice to be a 190 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,800 passenger Princess every now and then and just get in the dungeon 191 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,160 and just follow and and Pew by one of the pure DPS class. 192 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,440 I had to pick a class that did not have a tank spec because if 193 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,840 it had a tank spec, I would default the tanking on it. 194 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,880 I've always been, I've been drawn to frost Mage since the 195 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,520 Dragonflight beta. Actually, it was a shadow land. 196 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,080 It might have been. Yeah, it was shadow lands. 197 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,880 I've been drawn to Frostmage since the shadow Lands beta, but 198 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,760 but never never played it. Just sort of dabbled with it a 199 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,240 bit and yeah, it is. I named my character seemed 200 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,400 Drexler because I thought I was going to be a fire mage when I 201 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,360 made them. But I enjoy frost. 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,920 I really, I know this is unpopular and if you're a frost 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,520 mage out there who's been a mage for a long time, I have 204 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,480 recognized that mages only like arcane and fire and they only 205 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,800 want those to be good and they never want frost to be good, so 206 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,760 they hate it no matter what. Get that. 207 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,040 But I've been really enjoying playing as a frost mage. 208 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,480 I like the rotation. I like the little mini game of 209 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,000 tracking your shadowing stacks. I'm going to shoot for 3K which 210 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,840 I'm almost there. I have I think two more 2 211 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,480 dungeons that aren't I'm to the 12. 212 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:49,760 But I I gave myself a little challenge. 213 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,480 I only pushed my I only ran my own key. 214 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,400 But my first key I got friends to carry me through a 10 so that 215 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,520 the next week I had a 10 so that that's a lift up. 216 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:04,200 But from that point, I only ran my own key up until I had all of 217 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,800 the keys done at a 10 or better, and then I was plugging into 218 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,240 keys to farm specific pieces of gear. 219 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,720 But I'm, I'm actually getting pretty good at it. 220 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,960 I think, you know, I'm, I'm decent. 221 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,160 I can purple parse in in heroic grade anyway, which isn't 222 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,600 terrible. And more importantly, I'm having 223 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,880 fun and you know, it's just a chill time. 224 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,920 Are you pugging into rating or is that with like one of your 225 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,080 friends? No, just pugs. 226 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,240 I log on on Tuesday, I jump in Tuesday. 227 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,360 Listen, if you're anybody playing this game, here's a hot 228 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,480 tip. If you're playing the game and 229 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,080 you're somebody who pugs primarily, do your pugs on 230 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,000 Tuesday and Wednesday and don't ever think about doing them any 231 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,200 other day of the week. Tuesday and Wednesday, you get 232 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,120 all of the alts from all of the juicers. 233 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,600 You get people who typically know the mechanics and know what 234 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,160 they're doing. So yeah, on Tuesday I usually 235 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,280 log in, bug a quick chimeras jumping to avoid Spire and A and 236 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,440 a March and have some fun, yeah. OK. 237 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,080 Well, thank you for entertaining me with my 20 questions. 238 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,880 Yeah, no problem, no problem. Frost mage means where it's at 239 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,320 and that it sucks because I actually think it's pretty good 240 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,360 this season. But I'm I'm not a mage, a long 241 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,160 time mage. This is an effect of the 242 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,800 simplification of the DPS classes. 243 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:27,520 I have a theory that every DPS class feels amazing if you are 244 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,960 new to that DPS class but feral druid was the same. 245 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,280 I played feral druid at the start of the season and I was 246 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,520 like man this is great and every feral druid that I knew hated 247 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,160 it. Frost mage feels great and every 248 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,520 frost mage that I know well every mage that I know hates it 249 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,520 because they don't like frost. They only want to play fire in 250 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,920 arcane. They hate frost with a passion 251 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,680 when it's the best boss, best spec for a raid. 252 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,680 They're miserable. And then they say make up. 253 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:56,280 All these reasons why it's broken and bad. 254 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,320 And if you don't agree with that statement, if you have facts to 255 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,120 show me why I'm wrong, we jump into the discord and let us 256 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,800 know. It's a comment on Spotify. 257 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Did you know Spotify has rankings? 258 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,800 I only found out tonight. Sorry, side tangent, I only 259 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,760 found out tonight that you can rank the shows that you listen 260 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,920 to on Spotify out of stars, and I'm embarrassed to say I hadn't 261 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,120 even rated this show myself because I didn't even know it 262 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,240 existed. Anyway, if you were like me, 263 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,400 listeners, you can give Spotify rankings to the things you 264 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,000 listen to. Who knew? 265 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,680 Who knew? All of the Frost majors are 266 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,720 giving us one star today. We're just going to tank. 267 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,080 Yeah, but I think that's a theory that I have that anybody 268 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:45,360 new to DPS spec in this world of reduced complexity probably is 269 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,800 enjoying those DPS. And anybody who's played one 270 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,680 spec for a long time is kind of a little salty and doesn't like 271 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,400 change and feels bad about it and can give you good reasons 272 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,280 why it feels bad. But yeah, that's what I think. 273 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:07,240 And I don't know if it's good or bad that that's the way that it 274 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,000 is. I think it's healthy that people 275 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,680 will try more specs and enjoy them, but you don't want to lose 276 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,040 those people who like or dyed in the wool subtlety rogues, you 277 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,520 know? I I do think you're kind of 278 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,480 right on that though, because I do remember before the prune 279 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,160 came, I was a big proponent of the fact that one button 280 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,640 rotations making everyone so happy makes me like, we need to 281 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,080 means that things are too complex. 282 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,000 We need to cut things down. And then they took away 283 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 literally one thing from havoc. And I was like, what do you 284 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,360 mean? I don't have my schedule. 285 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,280 I'm so bored when I have one fewer button depressed. 286 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,480 And it's also, I think part of it is really even like dumb 287 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,200 little things like I have my key binds all set up. 288 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,880 I honestly don't even remember what I put in place of sigil. 289 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,320 There's a non zero chance of empty because that's, that's, 290 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,080 that's my sigil button, right? Like I, yeah, I could switch it 291 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,920 to something else that was on like a different hot bar, but I 292 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,280 already have that keyed into a different key bind. 293 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,960 And that like, if I put like, you know, vengeful retreat where 294 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,040 I put sigil, I'm always going to press, you know, my old vengeful 295 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,560 retreat. Like I, I have it set up. 296 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,400 I know where it's supposed to be. 297 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,760 I know where all my buttons are. So if you take them away, I 298 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,320 don't know what to put there. So I, I, I I. 299 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Drink it, Lex. You drink it that you're like I 300 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,840 never have a button for my on used pretty kink it. 301 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,400 The issue is not that I don't have a button for my trinket 302 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,920 many the issue is that I don't use it. 303 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,080 The issue is that I'll have a button and I'll have all sorts 304 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,080 of tell me when things and I never do it. 305 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 But now I have only one on used trinket and it's a 2 minute 306 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,160 cooldown. And so I put it on my 307 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,280 metamorphosis and I tell it today I hate on used trinkets so 308 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,200 much. They annoy me because again, I 309 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,680 mean, it's a different thing that I have to put in my 310 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,120 rotation and I have my rotation badly, but I know it and I know 311 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,560 everything is. I know when I process it in what 312 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,520 order, and I know when different things pop up, what button do I 313 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,840 hit? I'm not going. 314 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,240 To you don't want to lose anything from that rotation, but 315 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,920 you want it to be easier. Yeah, exactly do that. 316 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Do that, Blizzard. Make it easier, but don't change 317 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,360 anything. I will say I don't, I, I felt I 318 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,600 was a big whiner. I don't know how much I whined 319 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,400 audibly, but I mentally I was a big whiner about losing sigil 320 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,480 when that came out and I, I think it's fine now I'm, I'm 321 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,640 kind of over it. I like, I don't, I haven't 322 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,800 thought about it until this moment when we were talking 323 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,079 about it. I was like, oh, I remember when 324 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:16,760 I was very mad that sigil was gone. 325 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,359 Honestly, Lex, as a podcaster, I feel most of your whining was 326 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,720 visual. But going beyond that, I think 327 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,240 that you a lot of things that you say are just generally how 328 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,000 people are. People are resistant to change. 329 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:36,960 We can always identify problems. We're horrible about suggesting 330 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,360 what the answer should because everybody has their own 331 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,720 particular way that that they would want it to be. 332 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 So I think, Sean, going back to your point, I think you're 333 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,600 right. I can go through a list of 334 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,680 things that I would want change for like elemental or 335 00:17:52,680 --> 00:18:00,680 enhancement or whatever. And generally I think that the 336 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,920 fact that you've jumped onto frost mage and you're enjoying 337 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,560 frost mage is such a win. I have a friend who is a frost 338 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,480 mage. So like the the like exception 339 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,000 that proves your rule sort of thing with the changes and 340 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,360 stuff. Like, yeah, they were able to 341 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:19,880 like have like a couple of nitpicks and were like, oh, I'm 342 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,840 sad that we lost this. But now that we're, I think on 343 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,600 the tail end of of this tear pretty much settled into it. 344 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,040 I'm used to the new reality of my DPS might go back to 345 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,720 enhancement next next season. I'm not sure. 346 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,480 It's there's a lot of sizzle guys, whatever class I'm 347 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,960 playing, there's a lot of sizzle. 348 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,080 There's a lot of lights going off and spells and all of that. 349 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,760 And so like, even if I complain a little bit about like, oh, I'm 350 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,160 missing this, damn, it feels fun to press those buttons still 351 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,040 though. I never would have been able to 352 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,320 swap off a storm strike because it's the second best sound 353 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,720 effect in the game of storm strike. 354 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,560 Brock, second best being Divine, told you can't. 355 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Crash lightning. Crash lightning is like the 356 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,680 second best spell in the game next to heroically. 357 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,040 My God I I will. Like if I could put heroically 358 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 on every class. Oh man that's like hot sauce 359 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,960 man. Just pour it on everything. 360 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,360 Oregon Leap is really good, especially if you're a mountain 361 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:25,760 thing because you get the Thunder peel from the land as 362 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,760 well as an effect. That might be a glyph. 363 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,200 That might be a glyph. Anyway, that's that's what we've 364 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,440 been doing in Warcraft. This is the longest we've ever 365 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,840 opened the show by talking about what we're doing. 366 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,440 And it felt great, folks. It felt great. 367 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,440 We're going to give it some news. 368 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,280 This is where I would play our Good News Everybody sounder if 369 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,840 we had one, but we don't because we're not that kind of show. 370 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,080 Good news everyone. Lex Manny. 371 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:54,880 Predictions were made, dates were picked. 372 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,920 Passed up. Bets were offered. 373 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,360 I make no bet. And we got a we got a launch 374 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:09,080 date for midnight 12 point O .7 Revelations. 375 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,920 That content update mostly goes live on June 16th. 376 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,680 I don't remember which one of us predicted that date over and 377 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,920 over again. Can you remember one of us? 378 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,800 It was Lex. I don't want to talk about it. 379 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,280 I'm fairly certain it was Lex, but I was also kind of tuned out 380 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,680 last episode, so we'll we'll have to go back to the record. 381 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,560 We'll have to go back and check. Yeah, we'll have to go. 382 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,360 This is where I'll play the clip of me thing. 383 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,520 So coming out June 16th, not a surprise. 384 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,280 If you listen to this show, I don't think there's been a date 385 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,680 that I've been wrong about since I joined the show of a thing 386 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,240 coming. So not a shock that this is 387 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,800 coming when it is. But there are a couple of small 388 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,280 surprises I do want to touch on. And the first one, man, I'm 389 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,160 going to throw this to you, the Omnium Folio. 390 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,360 So this is our borrowed power that will last. 391 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:02,600 This is our lease. I'm not going to call it 392 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,880 borrowed power because we're getting it for the whole 393 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,800 expansion. This is our least power. 394 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,720 This is a long term lease. We got to return this thing with 395 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,920 low mileage that is launching with the patch on the 16th, but 396 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,360 there is a five week quest chain before we can Max it out. 397 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,240 And I don't know if it's guaranteed that it even unlocks 398 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:28,280 on week 1 because as per Blizzard's note, it says once 399 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,720 unlocked you'll be entrusted with the Omni and folio of Runic 400 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,920 Ledger containing Confidence of Power. 401 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,480 You can use a battle and we know that it's five weeks to Max it, 402 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,760 but there's no guarantee that it unlocks Week 1. 403 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,280 I don't even know. I don't even know what I want 404 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,800 you to say at this point, Manny, because I already know how you 405 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280 feel about this. Well, OK, here's here's how it 406 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,400 is guys. There might be some really cool 407 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,720 story attached to this. We might have the like 408 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,040 questionly gay duo bickering at each other and I'm all for that. 409 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,440 That's going to be fun. Just those two going at each 410 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,720 other and you're just like, shut up and kiss a bit. 411 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Like it just happens week after week after week, right? 412 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,760 And it's June, guys, this is the perfect month for that. 413 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,640 So you know what, go for it. I suspect that each week they 414 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:20,160 will unlock one additional column towards it so that you'll 415 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,480 be like, Oh yes, you've, you've got the Macguffin and you've put 416 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,040 it into, into the thing. Good job MacGyver, here's an 417 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,760 extra power. And then next week you'll come 418 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,000 back and it'll be like we've coincidentally found a new 419 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Macguffin for you to get. And so you'll go through each 420 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,240 week. Unlucky new row until you get to 421 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,520 the final row and congratulations, you now have 422 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:46,160 have everything As I said last last week, this is a process 423 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,160 that will likely be short formed in the future. 424 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,160 So if you are really not feeling like it, you can come back 425 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,800 later. It'll be fine guys. 426 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,440 It'll be fine. Yeah, this is something that's 427 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:04,480 supposed to last until the end of the expansion as some sort of 428 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,000 like overarching power, which which means that like hey guys, 429 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,360 your stuff will get hot fixed as soon as they find out they're 430 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,080 balanced incorrectly and will get hot fixed later as soon as 431 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,560 they realize that they have to adjust the balance. 432 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,000 But you will still get some of it all the way through till we 433 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,000 end things on midnight. We are at the dawn of a new 434 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,480 expansion and so go ahead, enjoy this, if not for the story, just 435 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,680 for like some fun things to do, a single player content which 436 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,640 you know, the pickings are kind of thin right now. 437 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,280 And this will give you some granted power that will allow 438 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,160 you to push through all that other stuff that we were talking 439 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,000 about. And if you want hips and tricks 440 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,680 about like what's going to be good, there's a bunch of sites 441 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,640 for that. Yeah, I think I just want to 442 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:59,240 prep everybody for the reality that we might not unlock this 443 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,040 and have access to it the week of the 16th, but it might be a 444 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,240 multi week West chain to unlock it. 445 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,120 I would, I would really think that they should avoid that. 446 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:13,760 I would think that it's more likely to be weeks one through 447 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,640 5, then closer to weeks 3 through 8 of this eight week 448 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,600 cycle that they're doing just because they want you to nerf 449 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,840 the raid. You know what actually, because 450 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,200 there is a raid that like could get nerfed. 451 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,360 I could see this coming out on Week 2. 452 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,160 And then you get like that increasing power gain that helps 453 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,760 you push through the raid that way. 454 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,840 I just generally don't like that people will be like, OK, I'm 455 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,040 pushing to be in that top 1% of the new Mythic plus system that 456 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,880 we've had. And really the strongest and the 457 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,560 best chance and the furthest you could possibly go will be 458 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,080 limited to like the week that this is fully unlocked and the 459 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,280 the weeks thereafter. That to me would be a real bad 460 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,320 position to put players in. The fact that it's five week C 461 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,080 also feels a little bit long. If you ask me, I'd I'd put. 462 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,520 It 5 weeks, 5 weeks to Max it in an 8 week season, yeah. 463 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,040 I personally, I'm not in love with the weekly. 464 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,800 It seems like the thing that they're doing a lot is a like, 465 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,040 we're going to give you a thing. And then every week you do a 466 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,120 little bit more. And I know this isn't like a new 467 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:27,680 concept in in Blizzard, but it feels like it's almost every 468 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,720 power game right now. And I just, I, it's probably 469 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,560 just that I'm, you know, raid logging more than I should. 470 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,600 And that's my own problem. But it feels bad when you like 471 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,360 log into raid. You're like, Oh Jesus I didn't 472 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,920 do. That Lex, do you remember back 473 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:51,000 in the yesteryear's back in the War Within, we got an expansion, 474 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,440 sorry, rather a patch. And the patch had week 1 475 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,360 basically nothing. And then Week 2 they added 476 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,040 something and then week 4 they added something. 477 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,680 And so they were like, yeah, sorry guys, we really should 478 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,840 have put more up front and not gated all of this stuff. 479 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,920 I don't I'm glad that the pendulum hasn't gone completely 480 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,960 the opposite way, but I think they could just move it a bit 481 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,000 further. I'll give them points for not 482 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,360 completely going the opposite way and be like, here's a 483 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:20,960 million things. Actually, no, wait, that was 484 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,800 last patch. OK, so they did struck up and 485 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,520 now they're kind of going back forth. 486 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,320 Well, Manny, I I have good news for you Turbulent time ways. 487 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,040 Another headline part of this patch will be launching on June 488 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960 30th. This is our turbulent time, 489 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,040 which this is your, your time walking that after doing 4 490 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:44,720 weeks, 44 dodges a week or four week or 4 weeks, you unlock 491 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:48,880 Viranoth mount, which is cool, but they've also extended. 492 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,440 There's an XP buff that comes to this. 493 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,480 That XP buff used to be character wide. 494 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,000 Each character would have to do four time walking dungeons to 495 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,040 get this XP buff, but now it's account wide. 496 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,800 The one character can do the four dungeons and then the buff 497 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560 goes account wide as long as nobody dies and you can keep 498 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,200 that up, which is great. So that's not coming at the 499 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,760 launch of the patch. That's coming two weeks after 500 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,360 the patch launches. And then a week after that, July 501 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,400 7th is when we're going to get the next chapter in the midnight 502 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,400 campaign quest. It's actually if you go on the 503 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,480 PTRI, don't know if this counts as a spoiler. 504 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,760 It's actually listed as chapter one of the 12.1 campaign with 505 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,640 Zol Jan and you're exploring what we're going to be heading 506 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,480 to in a tall U tech. Lex, are you glad that we have 507 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,440 this sort of break before we get the story campaign after the 508 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,440 patch launches so that you guys can experience Sporefall and and 509 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:53,480 and wrap up the current rates? I tend to no, I don't 510 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,520 understand. I, I want my patch on my patch 511 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,760 patch time and I would rather just have more space between the 512 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,960 patches. I no, I, I, I also don't like 513 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 having to remember all of the dates that everything is coming 514 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,280 out and like, and if I'm frustrated with it, I imagine 515 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,560 the people who are not doing weekly podcasts are even more 516 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,000 annoyed. I listen. 517 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,960 I like big space between big chunks and stuff. 518 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,640 Right. I like the original half cycle. 519 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,920 The the concept of like, Yep, there's a lot of time. 520 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,000 And so we're going to wait until things, you know, like we'll 521 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,040 give you space for things to get a little bit boring and then 522 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,080 we're going to dump so much stuff on you and it's going to 523 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,080 be super exciting. And then you're going to get a, 524 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,640 we're going to do it for a while. 525 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,800 I, I, I like that rhythm. I like the fact, frankly, I like 526 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040 the fact that rhythm means that I can take a break sometimes. 527 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,520 And I, I personally am not in love with the like everything 528 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:51,240 being spread out, no. Sean, is there anything in this 529 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,320 patch that is confirmed to be coming out on the 16th? 530 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Yes, yes, we have many things coming on the 16th. 531 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Man, tell me about this. I'm glad you asked. 532 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,600 So we're going to have Heroic World here coming on the 16th, 533 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,960 which is open for level 90s and will be a more difficult 534 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,480 challenge tuned for characters at at an item level of about 535 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,040 290. And what it will do is increase 536 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,200 the drop rate you will get from the currencies. 537 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,040 We have the the old accolades marl, that stuff, but it also 538 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,600 will make all of the rares drop champion track war bound items 539 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,080 instead of veteran track war bound items. 540 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,960 So good for alts, not good for the the characters that are 541 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200 playing in the heroic world, dear, but good for good for. 542 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:46,400 Alts sorry 290 though you said. Tuned for 290, but the yeah, so 543 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,400 so right now regular world content is tuned for like, I 544 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,600 don't know. 190 or something at the. 545 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,200 Yeah, 190 and it drops veteran track war bound gear from the 546 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,200 rares, but they're upping the difficulty and then making the 547 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,400 rewards from the the rares increase in kind. 548 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:13,040 And we're also going to have the new void assaults with the, I 549 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,360 don't think they actually call it void assaults, the Mini. 550 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,080 Zones. Yeah, the mini zones. 551 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,280 We're going back to Legion, to Val and and Nagtol. 552 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,800 I don't know how to pronounce that. 553 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480 Loreheads, please let me know. But that's coming on the 16th 554 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,040 for those 2 little zones, and I think they rotate weekly the way 555 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,320 the zones do now. And then after that, we also 556 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,040 have the Rothmeyer, the Warfol raid that's coming on the 16th. 557 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,440 You'll get your 298 gear. If you're a Mythic grader, it 558 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,000 should be easy. It's meant to be a transition 559 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,440 from heroic to mythic raid. So that's the difficulty level. 560 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,760 So hopefully attainable for most folks. 561 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,800 And it's flex rating. Get a chance in there to go in 562 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760 with 15 to 25 people. And we're going to get lore 563 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,720 walking with the lower on the 16th. 564 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,560 We were going to join Laura Walker Lily. 565 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,840 I feel like Cho has only just been started as the war Walker 566 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,160 for us to already be interested in a new one. 567 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,320 Doesn't matter. We're getting lore walking with 568 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,800 the Loa. Give us troll background because 569 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,320 we're obviously going to Batali tech for 12.1. 570 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,320 So this will be exciting. You can go and check that out. 571 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,720 I like actually I've enjoyed all of the lore walking so far and 572 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,760 then a mini game where you help the lowest speaker break 573 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:28,040 generalize new eggs. I somebody will have to tell me 574 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,560 what this is. I assume it's for a mount or 575 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,960 something. Probably never mount, but if you 576 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,840 recall when we were getting all of those lower back, that's a 577 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,680 phoenix. Well, it basically is like 578 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,640 dragon Hawk that comes out of the fire and that's actually a 579 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,400 lower that we've come across a couple of times. 580 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,600 So that one's not a new invention like that one. 581 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Wait, sorry, I have to back way up because this is really 582 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,920 bothering me. Where are you seeing that the 583 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,760 heroic world content is tuned to two? 584 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,040 90 from videos by Mr. GM and BB Messey on YouTube. 585 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,360 That was through PTR testing. Really hard. 586 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,440 Like I don't even think heroic rating. 587 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,440 Like I I'm rating heroic at a 270. 588 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:16,760 I was watching Dan like in full mythic gear he because he was on 589 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,600 the PTR full mythic gear get his face beat in during it so. 590 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,400 I'm curious what this is going to look like then, because that 591 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560 if if it's drop, oh, it's war Band champ 46, OK. 592 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,200 Yeah, War band champ. Yeah, OK. 593 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,360 It's the same as the rares now. Like if you kill rares now, 594 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,000 you're doing it. Yeah, for you're killing. 595 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,520 Yeah, I'm certain. I don't want to say what I was 596 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,360 about to say because it will come off as an out of touch with 597 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280 the vast majority of the player base. 598 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,840 So maybe you are killing rares and that veteran track web on 599 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,960 gear is valuable to you. There are a lot of other. 600 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Just do a delve. It just it feels to me that the 601 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,280 tuning of that is not about like, hey, you can take on stuff 602 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,240 that's because your gear is 290, so here's some champ track. 603 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,280 To me, it feels like we want you to engage in the world in a 604 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,040 fundamentally difficult way where you're not where you're 605 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,640 worried about butt pulling in another mob or two. 606 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,920 Like we have had back back back when like I think Cataclysm was 607 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,640 the last time, like outside world was like even remotely 608 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,720 close to dangerous and that only lasted like a tear. 609 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,160 I think it's supposed to shift the relative difficulty of it 610 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,480 when you are geared so outdoor content is challenging and that 611 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:46,400 to me seems correct. The champ track rewards, that's 612 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,640 the part that feels out of step for me, but whatever. 613 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,320 And look, I'm famously a proponent of making world 614 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,480 content harder. So if that, even if that's what 615 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,680 they're experimenting with, like they want to see if they can 616 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,560 start pushing it to higher difficulties, that is something 617 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,440 that I'm entirely behind. If it is genuinely tuned to 290, 618 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:12,159 I think that's maybe a big jump, but A, we'll see and B fair 619 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,040 enough, right. Like not everything has to be 620 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,000 for everyone. And maybe this isn't for me. 621 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,760 I whined about the, you know, smaller version last time they 622 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,239 did 12 point 0.5. So I probably would whine about 623 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,199 it anyway. So yeah, yeah, no, no, that, 624 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:26,880 that. And listen, I don't know. 625 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,400 I've not been watching these videos. 626 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,400 I am not obviously tuned into what's going on there. 627 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,199 So that number just seemed very big to me. 628 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,760 But I, I could like, I I, I don't know, right? 629 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,159 I surely do not have any information that you 2 do not 630 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:40,199 have. And it sounds like you 2 have a 631 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,920 lot of information that I don't. Honestly, I hope that the the 632 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,639 push for Morrow, the push for those currencies, that to me 633 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:50,920 seems like the bigger thing for those people who'd like doing 634 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,880 collecting and such. I would want that that for them 635 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,440 that they're like, oh, let me get all the recipes and all the 636 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,240 patterns and all of that and I will do heroic world content so 637 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,200 that I can, I can get that. Because I know there's a lot of 638 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200 people who will be like, oh man, the amount of moral that we get 639 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,680 from world content and stuff seems so small and so anemic. 640 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,640 I really want a big push here. Turn up the difficulty, get all 641 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,320 that value you want. Fair, and we will also, you 642 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,800 know, gear is going to get better. 643 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,920 We're going to get our little power boost, we're going to get 644 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,280 all the cute little stuff. So to be fair also this might 645 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,360 not seem as crazy when it actually is dropping, right? 646 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,400 This might seem much more where everyone is at. 647 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640 I'm going to tell you right now, my gear is not 290. 648 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:43,040 I'm a 286 or 88, might be 88. I'm shy of 290 for sure. 649 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,680 OK good, that makes me feel better. 650 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,920 I was sitting here like, am I that bad? 651 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,640 Like no. I misspoke. 652 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,560 I apologize. I misspoke. 653 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,040 I just went to check. Yep, 274. 654 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,000 It's tuned for 274. OK, I told 100% locked in there, 655 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,480 we're all good. Everybody who's writing you 656 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,360 Knee. With a good time, damn it. 657 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,160 Sorry, I apologize 274 live correction, OK. 658 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,640 Is there a mythic world? Is there a mythic world tier? 659 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,520 No put. That up to no. 660 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,160 No, there's not 274. I apologize, sorry. 661 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,760 Lower the pitchforks. Please don't let that affect the 662 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,080 rating you're going to give us. No, it's great. 663 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480 When you make a mistake in content, you get a ton more 664 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,320 comments and it boosts you in the algorithm. 665 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,320 We don't do any algorithmic content, so it doesn't. 666 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,280 Actually matter, but anybody who wrote out the answer before we 667 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,360 got to me correcting it is going to feel so silly for calling me 668 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,160 an idiot. That's 12 point O .7 coming on 669 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,200 June 16th as the prophecy foretold, so make sure you're 670 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:52,040 ready to go and get having fun eight weeks from then until both 671 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,000 .1 puts it at about August 11th. You can go ahead and mark that 672 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,040 into your calendar. Yes, man, I am. 673 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,880 I'm glad that you're putting out the prediction real quick. 674 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,160 I hope that they slow it down. I don't know. 675 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,360 I just feel like we're right in that the season where it's like 676 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,200 Canada Day, Independence Day, Pride, whatever you want to do, 677 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,800 people are going to be missing time. 678 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,400 School's already out for those folks in the US. 679 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,320 People want to go and do stuff. I know all of us are poor, and 680 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,600 so it's going to be mostly staycations. 681 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960 You know what actually bring on the contents staycation. 682 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:29,240 I correct myself midstream. Yeah, delay would be great. 683 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:32,160 I don't they they, they realistically can't because 684 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,400 they're so tied up against BlizzCon. 685 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,880 They have to get it out before BlizzCon. 686 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,320 Blizzcon's going to be a bunch of announcements about 12.2 and 687 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,800 the Race World First has to be over because most of the people 688 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,800 who are going to be on the MDI mainstage at BlizzCon are Race 689 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,840 World First players, so they need to have the race over 690 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,680 before then. Plus Turbulent Timeways is 6 691 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,880 weeks and every other Turbulent timeways we've had, when it has 692 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,320 ended, the next patches come and that ends on August 10th. 693 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:05,280 Wait, wait, but BlizzCon and well, you know what this 694 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,280 tournament rails, I'm like, they're having MDI, but the new 695 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,320 season's been out. Are they doing MDI for the 696 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,760 previous that's? Season Season 1 finals so it'll 697 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,880 be season 1 I believe so I. Believe in the Season 2. 698 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,680 Yeah. Cool. 699 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,960 All right. And then Arena World 700 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,120 Championship as well, but I guess that doesn't really change 701 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,040 cause arena's. Balancing tier sets, all of that 702 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,160 does change. Yeah, OK, I guess that matters. 703 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,520 I don't watch a lot of PvP, but we're going to move on, folks. 704 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,080 We're going to slip into some fun updates and bug fixes. 705 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,720 First, though, Lex, what if I told you that there was a 706 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,160 trinket that you could craft that would be your absolute best 707 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,880 trinket across the board? Would that excite you? 708 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,400 No, I hate crafting. It's stressing me out. 709 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,680 I don't understand. I don't know how much I'm 710 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,280 supposed to tip. It's scary. 711 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,840 And then I like do it with my guildies. 712 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,840 I'm like, can you guys do this for me? 713 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,240 And then I'm like, I don't know if I'm supposed to tip. 714 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:07,200 But they said no, you don't have to. 715 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,400 But I'm scared. They're just saying that's to be 716 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,960 polite. It's really stressful and scary. 717 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000 Sean, there's rules and I don't know what they are. 718 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,920 I should have asked Manny. Well there was Lex. 719 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,800 There was a trinket, the Dark Moon Dominion. 720 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,880 It was found out this trinket was giving 598 of your lowest 721 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:29,320 secondary stat on a proc. And people figured out that if 722 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,080 all of my secondary stats are the same number, they are all 723 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,360 the lowest and simultaneously the highest, but they're all the 724 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,840 lowest. And when it procs I get all of 725 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,720 those secondary stats. And this was wreaking havoc on 726 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,160 the mythic plus scene as people were frantically adjusting their 727 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,680 gear to make sure they had the same number across the board or 728 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,400 their secondary stats. Thousands and thousands of gold 729 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,080 spent in re crafts and re gems and re enchants. 730 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,960 Manny, are you somewhat? Did you jump on this? 731 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,800 Did you say hey Dark Moon deck Dominion, I'm all over this? 732 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:16,160 I did not. But I love it and I am so sad. 733 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,760 I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to pop the ball right now. 734 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,000 I'm so sad that it got hot fixed out and it's gone. 735 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:31,520 I I you know what it was a min Max hell it was you would need 736 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,120 to get gems from like past expansions just to make sure it 737 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,320 lined up because if one was at 297 and one was at 298, 738 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,480 congratulations you screwed up. So you were like micro adjusting 739 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,960 your stats to make sure that they lined up, but even at 740 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,840 giving you 3 stats, it was well above any other stuff 741 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,640 performing, especially for like classes like an elemental shaman 742 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,520 that love stats, that loves all stats, not equally, but love 743 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,400 stats. Just give give it all to me, 744 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,960 right? And when people find this out 745 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,920 mid season and it revolutionizes gearing and you get the sudden 746 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,880 influx of just excitement from like, you know, the hard course, 747 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,720 the min Max is the like absolute sweats, the nerds that are going 748 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,040 to write it all down and do all that sort of stuff. 749 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,680 I love it. It's great. 750 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:27,400 It's it's a lot of fun for a very small portion of the 751 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,600 population, for a larger set of the population that we're going 752 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,440 to say likes to keep up with the Joneses. 753 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,560 It is a nightmare. It is the I don't want to do 754 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,680 this. I don't want to go through this 755 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,400 guys. The amount of inflation on like 756 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:53,480 stuff like super old gems and super old enchants, right, 757 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,960 actually less than chance because they would cap out and 758 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480 say you can't be above a certain thing, but super old gems right 759 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,400 was ridiculous. The amount of people who were 760 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,960 like farming gear gear to like switch things around was like. 761 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,840 I think that that's fine. I think that was fun, but for 762 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,080 those of you guys who are listening to what I'm saying and 763 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,720 being like, Oh my goodness, I would never, that is too much 764 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,880 and all of that. Yeah, that's why they hot fixed 765 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,200 it. Because even if it is A 766 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:37,920 Midsummer Christmas miracle for some people, it is a nothing but 767 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,680 a huge headache for others. It'll say, OK, this is, I'm 768 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,320 going to be really mean for a second. 769 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:50,760 It was obviously a bug, like it was obviously a hack. 770 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640 Of. Course that's going to get all 771 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,040 fixed. I agree with Danny. 772 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,120 I I think that having options like this that are like, you 773 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,680 know, like, oh, like I I think that can hypothetically be cool. 774 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,480 They're like, Oh yeah, if you mid Max perfectly, then you can 775 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,080 get all of your stats every time. 776 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,360 And you guys, of course, no, if they wanted it to mean all of 777 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,760 your stats went up and down, they would have said all like 778 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,920 it. Like pretty obvious, you know, 779 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,600 oopsie. Like we didn't think we coded it 780 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,000 like that and then we did it. Oh. 781 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,160 Shoot. Like, I don't know, I'm sorry if 782 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,880 you spend a lot of money and time on your gear. 783 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,440 I apologize. That must have been really 784 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,920 stressful. And I'm sorry that you you 785 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,000 wasted that time and money. Nah. 786 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:39,160 OK, If I had been on the ball and had done this and spent the 787 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:44,520 hundreds and thousands of gold to like get this going and I had 788 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,760 completed a bunch of dungeons and stuff and then it gets swept 789 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,560 out from underneath me. One, I would have kept my old 790 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,440 gear because I know that this wasn't going to last long. 2 I 791 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,200 still think that journey is fun. It is part of the reason that I 792 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,840 love playing on PTR when things are changing or on the beta when 793 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,440 things are changing. I I wish that there were, there 794 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:15,480 were some things in the game that still allowed you to go 795 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,200 into the weeds with your character. 796 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:25,200 Like yes, we've simplified or streamlined rotations and and so 797 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:31,960 forth, but some of that, some of the stuff that you go into for 798 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,400 your rotation in that is kind of cool. 799 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,560 When it's arcane, it's casting Elemental blast in AOE because 800 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,760 you want to keep up that buff, because that buff actually 801 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,680 translates out to more DPS over a certain period of time. 802 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,280 Instead of the game being like, here's a buff that says you 803 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,440 should cast elemental blast all this all the time. 804 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,720 It is the like switching your rotation in three to four 805 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:03,160 targets or two to three targets in the middle of a fight because 806 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,640 that's what the paladins ask of you. 807 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:14,320 There's I think that like mastery of the game can allow 808 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:21,960 you to dig deeper into stuff. Can't allow you to like really 809 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,560 enjoy min maxing. I just think the problem with 810 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,920 this particular example was that it was too rewarding and 811 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,760 required too much effort. I would bring down the effort 812 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,880 and I would bring down the rewards and then I would have 813 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,640 been happy with it. Oh. 814 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,480 Yeah. And I, I think so this is 815 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,040 nothing I did, but I know this, that sort of like gamesmanship 816 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,720 was something that was happening a lot in the I think was the 817 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:46,520 time walking community, which I actually think I know that they 818 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,800 nerfed. And I know people were really 819 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,640 upset about that. And I think that that was really 820 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,320 sad, right. Again, as someone who's never 821 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,640 done it, I saw how like devastated my time walking 822 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,640 friends were. And I think especially in 823 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,240 something that doesn't really, like hurt people, like, you 824 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:02,760 know, it's not as intensive, like people don't have their 825 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,000 career set on it doesn't sort of bully you into going a certain 826 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,560 direction. I think having opportunities for 827 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,560 people who like that sort of weird gamemanship is really, 828 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,760 really positive. I think this one was obviously 829 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,040 not what they meant. And I think that's why like, I, 830 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,920 I, I, yeah, of course they, they nerfed it. 831 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,160 Sorry, I'm still being very mean. 832 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,920 I don't. I genuinely I that's I don't. 833 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,120 Think any of that was mean you. I'll let you know when you start 834 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,240 getting on the mean, but keep, yeah. 835 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:34,280 OK, beautiful. But, but, but yeah, like I, I, I 836 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,960 think that the, the other thing is actually, now that I'm 837 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,320 thinking of it, I, I do think that as much as I want that 838 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,000 opportunity for gamesmanship, I really don't think it can be 839 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,680 like the core gameplay because I don't think most people in World 840 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,960 of Warcraft are comfortable. Well, OK, I'm gonna finish my 841 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,880 sentence then I'm gonna immediately count contradict my 842 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,520 own sentence. I don't think the most people 843 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,280 who play World of Warcraft are really comfortable with the idea 844 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,160 of like, Oh yeah, you could do 2% more damage, but it's really 845 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,040 stressful and hard. So you don't have to do it 846 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,040 right. I think that everyone is going 847 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,280 to see what is sad is their top rotation and their top whatever. 848 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,800 And they're going to be like, well, I guess I have to do that 849 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,760 and it sucks and I hate it. So I hate this game. 850 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,440 That said, I'm very much on record saying things like, you 851 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,600 know, if you like, I think the World of Warcraft put it can put 852 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,760 on as many time limited amounts as they want. 853 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,080 And I don't think that it's World of Warcraft's problem. 854 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,320 Like I, I don't think that they should like, you know, really do 855 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,360 the like dopamine hacking of people. 856 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,320 But I, I think that it, it's OK for there to be things that like 857 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,800 maybe some people are going to engage with maladaptively. 858 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,000 And I think that's kind of not necessarily the World Warcraft 859 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,880 team's problem to like keep you from engaging maladaptively. 860 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,280 You know what I'm saying? So I guess I don't know, I I 861 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,600 doubt that they would put anything like this in the core 862 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,960 game that requires that level of like intensive min maxing. 863 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,680 I don't think it would be super healthy for the game. 864 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,480 But the more I talk, the more I'm kind of unconvincing myself 865 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,640 that I think would be an inherently bad idea or 866 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,760 inherently negative. So yeah, I guess that's above my 867 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,480 pay grade. I too miss zoning into a time 868 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,160 walking dungeon and finding myself gifted with a beautiful 869 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,280 twink. That hard Gary's hard Gary's the 870 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,000 run twinks. If you're out there, we miss you 871 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,760 at 4 hours or off. It's. 872 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:20,520 Prime month. The trick? 873 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,480 It's gone, yeah. Yeah, the trick is gone. 874 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,200 We're moving on. We're going to talk about a new 875 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:25,800 thing now. This. 876 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,480 I'm actually excited about this because this is, I raid with the 877 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,000 big one of the bigwigs developers. 878 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,040 I think he's the one who's like the first developer anyway, one 879 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,480 of the bigwigs developers. I raid with him and at the start 880 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,960 of the season I said, hey, with Wicor is gone, it would be 881 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,720 really nice if I could change the name of the spells and the 882 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:48,920 timers, but I can put them to things that I want to call them 883 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,240 and that I can understand them easier. 884 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,560 And he said we're not built for that. 885 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,400 We would, it would require like a complete rewrite of a lot of 886 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,080 the stuff that we have and it's not something we can do right 887 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,040 now. And I said, OK, cool, 'cause 888 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,920 they rename the abilities themselves. 889 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:05,320 And most people just get used to the bigwigs, you know, avoid 890 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,080 howl cast being called orbs. They have good names across the 891 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:14,520 board that they name things, but little did I know that asking 892 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,560 for that and I'm certain other people asked for it as well, but 893 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,280 asking for that sparked in them the desire to see if they could 894 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,960 make it happen. And this week they announced 895 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,720 that yes, in fact, they can make it happen. 896 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,520 You can now. And I think DBM also has its 897 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,280 functionality. I'm not 100% though I don't use 898 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,280 DBM, but you can now. It does OK on Bigwigs, change 899 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,280 the name of the spell that shows up in the bar. 900 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,400 So instead of having it called Void Howl, you could call it 901 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:48,040 orbs or you could write spread and if ability is on you, you 902 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,560 can change what it says as well. But for example you know you 903 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:57,680 could have it say soak or stack or dodge if you have a fear on 904 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,200 you or something like that. Though this is huge. 905 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,360 And you can also individually change the timers of when 906 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,280 certain spells appear, but there's ones that are more 907 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,960 important for you. This is is functionality that 908 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,160 is, is like a direct lift from the days of week auras. 909 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,800 And it's something I was very excited to see announced, but I 910 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,120 don't know that everybody on the panel was excited about it. 911 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,600 Lex, how do you like, are you going to make any use of this? 912 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,760 Do you use Bigwigs or do you use DBMI? 913 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,200 Use DBMI. Probably am not because I'm very 914 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,360 lazy. I do think and I to be fair, I 915 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,880 think I must have missed or like have like tuned out the moment 916 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,240 that they allowed DBM and bigwigs to rename abilities 917 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,240 since that was something early on they were like hard set 918 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:47,080 against. It does sort of feel hot take. 919 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,840 I know on this podcast it does sort of feel like we did a bunch 920 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,520 of fuss and a bunch of stress and pissed everyone off a lot 921 00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:57,120 and now we are back in the same position as we were, you know, a 922 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,920 season ago, except now everything's a little bit worse 923 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,160 and a little bit less accessible and a little bit harder for 924 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,320 people to get into. So when I saw this, I rolled my 925 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,480 eyes as far back in my head as was physical, physically 926 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,680 possible. And now I know what my skull 927 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,200 looks like. But this is not new. 928 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,680 It is not. We knew that this sort of thing 929 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,600 was happening. We knew that they were like, 930 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,800 releasing more and more, you know, of the regulations they 931 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,800 said were, you know, strictly in place. 932 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,440 So fair enough. Whatever. 933 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,560 What can you do? Manny, where do you land on 934 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,640 this? Are you excited about the 935 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,000 ability to to change these? Did you can theoretically write 936 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000 up a whole list? If you were a say a 21st man, or 937 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,160 you wanted to call for your right team, you could write up a 938 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,000 whole list of these and export them and dump them wholesale 939 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,680 onto your raid to make the fights easier. 940 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,440 So that's what's going to happen. 941 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,960 They're going to be every content creator, every raid 942 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,120 leader, every 21st man that's going to that's going to say 943 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,560 like, here's your package for the raid and we're going to 944 00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,960 rename whatever whatever it was called, Azeroth's mystical fart, 945 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,160 whatever. It's now going to be dodge 946 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,080 frontal. And so you'll see it coming on 947 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,680 your board. It says dodge frontal. 948 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,240 I wonder what I'm supposed to do about that. 949 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,640 I don't know what that move is, but I'm not going to think about 950 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,080 it anymore because it's going to say dodge frontal and then 951 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:18,760 Sean's going to come into my ear and just say, oh, dodge frontal. 952 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,000 I'm like, OK, and that's that's it. 953 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:28,560 Long and short of it, I guess. Blizzard, I want two things from 954 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,400 you. One is any functionality that 955 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,800 you give to an add on you need to put into the base game. 956 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:41,040 And two, I now need a water cooler talk or a long form talk 957 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,080 about where exactly you want functionality to because it's 958 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,080 not where you initially said it was anymore. 959 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:51,160 And every time Lex has to roll her eyes into the back of her 960 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,760 head, it's on you guys now. So like they need to give an 961 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,840 update and let us know where this is going so that there's 962 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,160 some feedback to this conversation. 963 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:08,240 I played this entire tier without add-ons like DBM, like 964 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,320 the bigwigs. I think that you can get away 965 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,960 with it at a heroic level rating and at the level of mythic plus 966 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,280 that I am hitting the wall of now. 967 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,280 And I think you can go a little bit further if you are more 968 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,560 coordinated or better organized of a team. 969 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,240 But why would you make it harder on yourself? 970 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,120 Like at this, that's a great question. 971 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,920 I want to actually bring it back to Lex because that's something 972 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,800 I want to say. Lex, your team went in with the 973 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,600 intention of not using anything and then realized we we need to 974 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,360 install this. And I think you mentioned we've 975 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,600 all sort of noticed that there's been this tier has been 976 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,480 especially hard on tanks. If you're a new tank, good luck. 977 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,160 But it's been especially hard on tanks. 978 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,000 This can help fix all of that as well. 979 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,000 So is that not, does it not make this like an inherently good 980 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,880 thing that this will make it so that people who previously were 981 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,600 able to clear raids easily and now clear rage whether if 982 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,040 they're struggling? Yeah, and I listen, I I on the 983 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,000 one hand, I kind of know that I'm punishing the behavior I 984 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,160 want, right, like I never was like super pro the add on 985 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,360 apocalypse, as they say. And I think I'm also like 986 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,920 there's a part of me that's a little bit grumpy that they 987 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,360 assign dev work to things that don't really matter anymore. 988 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,880 Although I guess Manny also does make a fairpoint that the the 989 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,400 other way they can fix this is they can say no, you guys, but 990 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,560 we said the whole time isn't what we want is you don't need 991 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,400 the add-ons to do things. So now you can also rename them 992 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,520 on the, the core gameplay, right? 993 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,640 I think that will be fair, right? 994 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,280 I, I, I don't personally know that I agree that it was a big 995 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,840 deal that almost everyone felt like they needed to download an 996 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,920 add on. I also don't know they've 997 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,280 necessarily fixed the fact that most people feel like they need 998 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,800 to download an add on. But if they really, really want 999 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,040 to say, well, I guess this is fine if you guys are going to do 1000 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,200 all these insane stuff until you can make it happen. 1001 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,280 I think there there is a a valid compromise which is putting in 1002 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,160 the court gameplay. So so is it is it am I unhappy 1003 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,400 that this ability exists again? No am I frustrated that the 1004 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:26,560 Blizzard team has been kind of like messy with this? 1005 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,920 Yes. Am I like again, I'm not like 1006 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,360 mad. I mean I, I, I'm frustrated with 1007 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,880 this situation. I think it's silly. 1008 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,960 I I mostly I mostly am I rolly right? 1009 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,240 I mostly just think this is ridiculous and it makes them 1010 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:42,200 look kind of silly and the back and forth and lack of clarity 1011 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,920 and like, oh, all of a sudden it is substantially more powerful 1012 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,120 to have DBM and big wigs like that. 1013 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,400 It doesn't make me like want to quit the game, but it makes me 1014 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,600 roll my eyes. I didn't weakens whatever 1015 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:55,960 argument they were making before. 1016 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,680 So no, I do I think it's negative. 1017 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,400 No, I think it's, I think it's good. 1018 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,360 I think this is the thing that people really wanted and I think 1019 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,440 that's going to make things easier. 1020 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,160 And I think it is good, especially since it has, I mean, 1021 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,000 I know my team has been having trouble with this tier. 1022 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,280 I don't know how it is in general. 1023 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,360 It is felt challenging and you know, it's kind of felt like you 1024 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,640 need a a coder who's writing you add-ons on the fly. 1025 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,560 So no, I think it's good for the game. 1026 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,440 I just think it's silly. Yeah, yeah, Manny, we're going 1027 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:34,160 to end the show with the most positive topic we've had in 1028 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,680 months. But before we do, would you like 1029 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,400 to say anything to the patrons browser? 1030 00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:44,000 Yeah, I mean, thank you, Patrons. 1031 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,320 Fo Razzarov will always be free, but if you find value in what we 1032 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:54,400 do, head over to patreon.com/fazand subscribe, 1033 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,920 become a Patreon. We also have a free tear so you 1034 00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,400 don't have to do anything monetarily. 1035 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,800 And if you do want to support the show but can't afford the 1036 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,680 money, as is the case for a lot of people these days, leave us a 1037 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,200 five star review either on Spotify, which Sean just found 1038 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,120 out this week. Just found out, go crazy. 1039 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:19,240 And so you know those are valid reviews cause Sean hasn't been 1040 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,640 getting all his friends to to bump up already. 1041 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,760 Wait, does iPhone have the same thing? 1042 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,080 Hold on. I mean, and then the iTunes 1043 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,240 store, you could give us a five star review over there, which 1044 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,840 has been around forever and I'm praying that Sean's aware of 1045 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,800 that or wherever you get the the show. 1046 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:45,040 But I want to talk about it. I also do want to give a special 1047 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,160 thanks to our Legendary level Patreon subscriber, Alan 1048 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,400 Diamond. Thank you for all of your 1049 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,360 support. We thanked him last week. 1050 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,200 He doesn't get 2. Thanks. 1051 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,560 Yeah, we never gave him the the stories and so. 1052 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,160 I'm gonna, I'm doing like a personalized video story for 1053 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,160 him, Alan. I'm getting for you more than 1054 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,680 one show, just FYI. We're grateful to all of our 1055 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,040 patrons. Yeah, I like everybody. 1056 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,120 I'm grateful for all my best and you know, I'm also grateful with 1057 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,800 the people who join us on Discord at bit dot LY slash fast 1058 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,160 Discord. Come hang. 1059 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,200 Out. I'm grateful for the hate 1060 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,560 listeners too. I know you're out there. 1061 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,880 I hate listen. I'm a good hate listener. 1062 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,960 I'll hate listener. I'll hate watch. 1063 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,240 Not a full time hate listener. I hate watcher of shows. 1064 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,480 But I will occasionally do it and I get it. 1065 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,600 And I'm hoping that we're giving you the material that you need 1066 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,000 to keep you fueled 'cause you matter too. 1067 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,480 Got me angry. And if I piss you off and that's 1068 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,240 making you happy, I'm happy for you. 1069 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,320 Lex, I can't imagine who would possibly be upset by you, just 1070 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,480 like I can't imagine who would be possibly upset by our next 1071 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,520 topic. It's June. 1072 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,320 It's a new month. That means traders post, but I 1073 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,360 think this month we should call it foreign post. 1074 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,160 Manny, why don't you take us into this? 1075 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,080 All right, so horrible puns aside, I really do love. 1076 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,360 Yeah, that's not like, OK, it was like, it was a good segue, 1077 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,480 but the humor. Was the show. 1078 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,480 Like you got to give him points for one and then I, I, I don't 1079 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,440 know, it's a wash. Anyways, this this month we have 1080 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,960 a new traders post as always, and the theme is around the sun 1081 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:33,400 walkers, the torn paladins. It is fantastic one because this 1082 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:39,680 is a hugely underserved niche of Warcraft, both the torrents and 1083 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,400 especially the torrent Palin, the sun walkers and the priests 1084 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,840 as well. Like the torrent priests are 1085 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,000 don't get much love, but they're not part of this. 1086 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:55,200 I think that this is the best way to quickly inject some of 1087 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,520 that stuff before they can like like without having them to like 1088 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,280 shoehorn it in the story. And it's amazing that they came 1089 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,800 here. I actually would have expected 1090 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,200 it earlier back when we were initially leveling and we had 1091 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:15,320 the Sun Walker that was part of the Aerothorse storyline, but he 1092 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,040 didn't get this outfit. But now you guys do. 1093 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:23,760 It also includes multiple weapons, both one handed and two 1094 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,800 handed swords, one handed and two handed axes. 1095 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:33,600 Back pieces torrent only or high mountain torrent right and two 1096 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,200 sunrock mounts that are clearly paladin torrent paladin 1097 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,800 inspired. These mounts are the first 1098 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:47,320 mounts to have a dismount animation, which is I'm hoping 1099 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,040 the first of many I love it I love it. 1100 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,920 Have you guys been on it? I for those people who don't 1101 01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:01,440 stock up on as many tenders as possible, I feel sorry for you 1102 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,320 guys because there's just so many good things in this in my 1103 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,720 opinion. Yeah I bought both of the armor 1104 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,560 sets. I don't play a torrent but I 1105 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,080 might. I mostly don't play torrents 1106 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,840 because I think all trans mug looks awful on them, but this 1107 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,240 trans mug looks dope. I have one complaint. 1108 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,680 Where's the shield? It's the sun. 1109 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,880 Walkers are paladins, I assume they're not all Retribution 1110 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,160 paladins, and some of them might be holy paladins, some of them 1111 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,680 might be direction paladins. But there's no torrent themed 1112 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,720 shield. I want like a big tree or 1113 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,160 something on my arm. Give me a torrent shield. 1114 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,400 There's some from BFA that are going to be close that'll 1115 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,640 probably do the job. And I'll actually the Maruk 1116 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,080 Shields from Dragonflight are also pretty good for torrents. 1117 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,000 You can get some really nice ones. 1118 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,480 Yeah, there's one with fur that looks pretty good. 1119 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,360 But yeah, it, it looks amazing. It's, it's, it's really good. 1120 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,560 And there was even some new lore that got like sprinkled in 1121 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,200 there. And that is when you mix lore in 1122 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,920 with the trading post that that's really exciting stuff. 1123 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,040 I, I'm a huge fan. I don't buy the mounts. 1124 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,360 I'll get the one for completing the traders thing, the trader's 1125 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,880 journey or whatever it's called. But yeah, it's, it's huge. 1126 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,000 I'm really excited. I have a friend who's a shaman 1127 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,120 only or a torrent only. All of his characters are cows. 1128 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,680 And I sent him the picture of the arm and I was like, this 1129 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,880 looks dope. And he said we have very 1130 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,840 different ideas of what is dope, but he's wrong because it's 1131 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,400 amazing. 10 out of 10, no notes but one note. 1132 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,640 Where's my sheet? That is a really fair point, 1133 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,360 because many of the like one of the axes could have very easily 1134 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,840 been a shield. It wouldn't have anywhere. 1135 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,880 Yeah, OK, Maybe they redo, maybe they redo the model and 1136 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,600 repurpose it as a shield. As long as they don't take away 1137 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,520 an axe. Sorry, I apologize. 1138 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,520 It took me a second. I was like, no, no, take my axe. 1139 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,240 Those axes. I am, I guess, the opposite of 1140 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,480 Sean. I went for the mount and then I 1141 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,520 was like, well, I got it like this, these weapons and such. 1142 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:11,680 I gotta I gotta the Torin Heritage armor in my which is 1143 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,680 obviously built from the ground up for torrents, I think is one 1144 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,280 of the best heritage armors in the game bar none and I'll. 1145 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,960 Have to check. It out and I do agree with Sean 1146 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,160 that much. Much of the armor that gets put 1147 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:31,560 onto a torrent just gets it just looks deformed when you put onto 1148 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,440 the torn model. So it's great when you get these 1149 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,280 pieces that like work for torn. They also work well for dwarves 1150 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,560 strangely enough. Something about the way that 1151 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,200 they come together. So even if you are not into 1152 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:51,160 torrents, check this out. It is cool if you guys could 1153 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,440 like to say next time come around and do more stuff for 1154 01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:00,160 this particular class race combo, who do you, who would you 1155 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,640 like to shine the light on or whatever power that they that 1156 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,200 they go with? That's a great question. 1157 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:15,200 For me I would like to see more stuff done for meccanomes. 1158 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:21,760 Now I don't know which which like class I would want to mix 1159 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,600 with the mecanome race. Definitely not warrior, but I 1160 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,440 just feel like mecanomes don't get explored enough. 1161 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,440 I'd like to see them like do something with like magic like 1162 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,880 like maybe tubes and stuff that like work for like mecano mages 1163 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:39,520 or and stuff like how did they bridge that gap? 1164 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,400 And I'd love to see that like show depicted in like armor 1165 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,120 stuff and and weapons and so forth. 1166 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,560 So I know mecanomes don't have druids, but like if you wanted 1167 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:52,600 to do mecanomes druids and then did like transmog stuff for 1168 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,560 that, I'd like that would be insane to me. 1169 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,800 But I think this is a great way of like exploring those themes 1170 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,720 more. So with that in mind, I'm going 1171 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:06,040 to throw this to you Lex first, which, what class, race, combo 1172 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,720 would you want to see explored a little bit? 1173 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,240 Class race combo. I'm not I, I I might race would 1174 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,560 definitely be Valpira. I think they were one of the 1175 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:18,080 most like anticipated and loved races when we were getting the 1176 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,160 allied races and I think they were kind of dropped like a hot 1177 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,680 potato, which is really sad because I think they were cool 1178 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:33,240 and cute and they're fun. I don't know what, I guess it's 1179 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,640 maybe Rogue I, I I don't know exactly what I don't even know 1180 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,320 if there are they're surely they're volpier. 1181 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,240 Rogues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1182 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,880 I, I don't know exactly which one. 1183 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,560 And I think part, I think that's kind of part of the issue. 1184 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:50,160 I don't know that Volpiera have a a super strong ongoing racial 1185 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,200 conversation in the lore I guess. 1186 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,680 Yeah, they don't have their defined kit, so you don't know 1187 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,080 how that would influence a class. 1188 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,160 Right, exactly, exactly. So I, I think Volpier would be a 1189 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,120 really good, I think that's one thing that they need to explore 1190 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,600 in general, honestly. OK. 1191 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,720 Easy for me. I want dwarf warriors. 1192 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,400 And let me tell you why I know what you're thinking. 1193 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,000 That's boring. Let me tell you why we could do 1194 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:19,080 two different types. We need iron forge weapons and 1195 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,400 Shields and armor. We don't have an iron forge 1196 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,360 shield that was released after classic. 1197 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,840 It just doesn't exist. The brewfest shield is the 1198 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,600 closest you're going to find. But I I want I want dwarf 1199 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,840 warriors because you can do iron forge like city guard, big plate 1200 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,800 wearing, you know, shield wall kind of guys. 1201 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,760 But you could also do wild hammer warriors and get them 1202 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,360 done up in feathers with the war paint and have it be very 1203 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,440 minimalistic and like Viking ask. 1204 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,160 Yeah, because dwarfs need things custom made for them because 1205 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,440 they have that weird little paunchy belly that makes all 1206 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,360 pants and belts and skirts look ridiculous. 1207 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,680 Ate it. OK. 1208 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,920 Yeah, Dwarf warriors. OK, give me some Wild Hammer 1209 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:12,800 mug. I'd almost want to say dwarf 1210 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,920 shamans before dwarf warriors because like the wild hammer, 1211 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,160 you haven't actually explored a lot of that and that shamanistic 1212 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,120 stuff would then pull into it. I don't think there's. 1213 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,040 Some more shaman things in the game. 1214 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,160 That's. Crazy, I can't believe you'd 1215 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,720 have that opinion. I know. 1216 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,880 OK, you know what? Fine. 1217 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:33,800 I'll. I'll switch it up. 1218 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,480 I'll switch it up. Dwarf what? 1219 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,640 What dwarfs? Also, do you know what dwarf 1220 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,600 demon hunters? Oh man, I've never seen. 1221 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,240 That would be sick. I if if we made Demon hunters 1222 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,360 more racially inclusive, I think that'd be very fun. 1223 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,880 I think little. Stumpy guys. 1224 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,360 They turn into like those little treasure goblins out of Diablo. 1225 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,520 It's like random war for this. This is you're making a mockery 1226 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,320 now. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you 1227 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,480 so much for spending the time with us today. 1228 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,680 We really do appreciate it. We're going to be back next week 1229 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,440 with more news. One week closer to 12 point O 1230 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,080 .7. Will I have made it to level 15 1231 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,920 in Final Fantasy 14? We won't talk about it, but I 1232 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,040 might have. But until next time, may all 1233 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:16,880 your heads be crits.