I too, miss zoning into a time walking dungeon and finding
myself gifted with a beautiful twink that hired Gary's.
Hired Gary's. The run.
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Sindori for the alliance for. The horn for Azeroth Hello and
welcome to For Azeroth episode 389.
I'm one of your hosts, John, and today I am joined by the
delightful lexer Ants Lex, the World of Warcraft and treating
you. It's been treating me very well.
Shawn, I am doing you guys are not gonna believe this.
I've been doing Mythic Plus and I've been having a really good
job. Like are having a lot of fun
with it. I don't know that I'm doing a
really good job at it, but I've been doing a good enough job
that I've started calling mechanics and stuff.
Not like the obviously I don't know the the dungeons themselves
super well, but I'll be calling like affixes and like, oh, OK, I
don't know if this is true. I kind of get the vibe though,
that I am like the way that they developed the like glowy you
gotta kick this cast. I feel like for whatever reason,
it works better in my brain than the average person, which
doesn't seem like it should be true, but I feel like everyone
is constantly like not seeing them and I'm like, but it, it
flashes. So anyway, I I call those
sometime, not always. That's a good time.
I've been really enjoying it. So we'll see if that keeps up
and my team tolerates the fact that I've run inertia build in
Movie Plus. I love that they might not be
seeing. That's actually a feature, a
toggle that you could turn off so you can't always see.
Like you have to turn on, highlight important casts, get
those on there. So it's a possibility that the
people you're playing with don't have that turned on and that's
why they're unable to see the important casts.
But it doesn't matter because they've got you to call them
out. That's huge.
What? What key range are you in where
you're comfortable now? So we are doing a lot of 10s,
although we have not timed a lot of 10s, but so, so I I think
that is kind of where we're hitting right now, which is it
is always very funny when like in the for Azeroth discord,
which isn't joined at Bit dot LY slash faz discord today, people
were like, yeah, you know, like time walking's hitting a little
bit around a a + 10, which I mean, plus 10s are easy.
You know, I was like, oh, for you guys maybe, but some of us
are bad. Which if you if plus 10s aren't
easy for you also, that's OK, Bastie, you're as good as me.
Take that as you will. Yeah, it doesn't.
It actually I don't think. I don't think I don't think the
difficulty of the keys means you're bad.
You're just not as experienced in them.
You know, if you're not as geared up, if you've not been
running them all season. Familiarity, even just
familiarity with the dungeons makes a huge difference, which
you're probably noticing as you're seeing these important
kicks and and remembering, you know, the next time you come to
those packs. Hey, I know that this Hexer we
got to kick that guy. Yeah, yeah, and even just little
things like the number of times that I've kicked something
stupid just to like try to get a little bit less damage and then
all of a sudden there's a big glowy cast and I'm like, OK,
this is bad. Hard to tell everyone that I
don't have kicks. Yeah, I, I, I do think, I mean,
to be fair, I've done literally a handful of mythic plus this
entire season, so it's not surprising that I am like, this
is kind of new and I the big mechanics are always the big
things. I like the boss mechanics are
the always going to be the big ones.
And those are often you kind of do have to know funky little
stuff to get it. And we never like horrifyingly
overtime key. Like I've been in some key runs
where like we're kind of sitting there looking at each other
having a little bit of that. Like OK, so like at what point
are we going to call it like we all want the gear and we all
said at the beginning we're just waiting for completion, but it's
been like 2 hours and I don't know the gear that much.
So nothing like that. It's always been like, you know,
a couple seconds, not a couple seconds, like a little bit
overtime. Like, oh, we could have done one
pack a little better and then we would have been fine.
Very cool, very cool. Lex, however, is not the only
person joining us today. We are also joined by the ever
punctual Manny. Manny, how is the World of
Warcraft for treating you and how are you doing?
So as listeners may have guessed, that punctual was a
absolute lie. And I apologize for Sean.
He's usually factual, but today he decided to try and be funny.
He sounds pretty angry and incoherent honestly.
Yeah, that's right. Negative.
I'm negative. There you go.
Still my favorite. My favorite listener.
If you're out there still, I hope I've done better for you.
You know, it's funny the people that touch our lives and have
that lasting effect, and I'm glad you have that.
But to answer your question, World of Warcraft has been
pretty damn great. Let me let me paint you a little
picture. Let me tell you a little story.
I was sitting down with one of our Fazzers, part of the fast
community that is multi owl, and we had a little talk about
mounts, about RNG, about the grind to go get whatever.
And it was a lot of fun. And of course, we've recorded
that and that'll be out for all of our patrons and then they'll
be a general release as well. And so I was like, OK, you know
what, I'm going to, I'm going to roll up my sleeves.
I'm actually wearing short sleeves right now, so not these
ones. And I'm going to go do some
mount collecting. And let me tell you son, let me
tell you, the RNG was with me today or other yesterday and I
got another drop. So that is the fourth of the
rear mounts. There's like 8 of them in total,
2 per zone, 1 flying, one ground mount.
Bam, Zandalar. I got the flying mount.
So loving that. Then I said, you know what?
Let me try a little bit of that that grind.
So I put myself to work and I went through and I got the last
of the like 500 of these, whatever you call it, so that I
can get another mount. And I got that out of the way.
And you know, it feels good to get those little accomplishments
out. I'm happy.
I'm, I'm relaxing and everything.
So I'm like looking and seeing what's next on the checklist.
Like I said, there's another four of the RNG mounts.
There is the vile taint mount that might not be what's
actually called. I'm sorry.
I should call her. Vile essence.
I'm sorry.
I've said Lex. We've lost Lex anyways.
Vile essence. Yeah.
So you got to get 1000 of those. John, let me tell you, I'm at 80
something. It's going to be a while.
But you have to farm those in the Mysara Caverns dungeon,
correct? No, on the normal and heroic.
Just outside of the dungeon, you can farm the rares that are
around there and like I'm geared enough that they're not as nasty
as they were back at the beginning of the expansion.
But also you can like my warlock is in the middle of a quest that
took it, took them in there and then gets this extra action
button plus a helper to make it easier.
So I'm going to run around on the warlock, do that, try and
farm that up and we'll see. But that one seems like a lot
more for grind. Like I know 500 a thousand at
that point, like you're going, but like the drop rate is a lot
different too. And it's not like you're just
going around and get and killing rares and stuff and then getting
disenchanting mats, which is what I was doing it before
mostly. So we'll see how that goes.
But yeah, mount farming's been pretty good.
Worked on the the professions like I was talking about last
week. Finally got to the point where I
can now craft the better value vials.
I forget what what the exact name of it but it's the vials
that you would make potions in and flask and stuff.
So I can now craft that without any concentration.
Which is good 'cause you know the base level ones sell them
for like 2-3 gold, the the higher value ones A130140 gold.
There's a big difference. There and it's just something
that people are going to want. So I'm just like, you know, time
to make some gold, baby. Like that.
Everything's coming up. Manny.
That's great. What a great change.
Happy to hear that. Warcraft's been OK for me.
I installed Final Fantasy 14. Yeah.
Not because I'm unhappy with Wow.
It's just I'm at a point in the season where we're progging
Laura, we're getting pretty consistently into P3 and we've
almost got P3 solved so we're probably looking at a kill
sometime in the next two ish resets.
But mythic like my characters are almost fully Bis here and
I'm not a key pusher. I am doing the plus sixteens on
one of my tanks because a friend of mine is a mount collector and
I'm just helping him. Yes, he's like quite good at the
game. But yeah, so I was just like,
you know what, the Final Fantasy race to world first, which is
not what it's called, they call it something else.
They call it like RWE Race to World.
I don't know what they call it. Anyway, that's happening.
And a couple of friends, Lithian Sigh and Rook are casting that.
And I said, let me pop in and see what this game's all about.
And yeah, it's, I mean, I'm super early into it.
I I don't have any thoughts on that, Right.
It's an MMO. I got to ask you because there's
a couple things that you talked about and I just want to ask a
little bit more. Drex, explode, your mage.
What spec did you go with? What are you doing with this?
Why did you decide that you're going to jump on Adps after all
your tank love? Well, I wanted, it's nice to,
There's a lot of responsibility in tanking and it's nice to be a
passenger Princess every now and then and just get in the dungeon
and just follow and and Pew by one of the pure DPS class.
I had to pick a class that did not have a tank spec because if
it had a tank spec, I would default the tanking on it.
I've always been, I've been drawn to frost Mage since the
Dragonflight beta. Actually, it was a shadow land.
It might have been. Yeah, it was shadow lands.
I've been drawn to Frostmage since the shadow Lands beta, but
but never never played it. Just sort of dabbled with it a
bit and yeah, it is. I named my character seemed
Drexler because I thought I was going to be a fire mage when I
made them. But I enjoy frost.
I really, I know this is unpopular and if you're a frost
mage out there who's been a mage for a long time, I have
recognized that mages only like arcane and fire and they only
want those to be good and they never want frost to be good, so
they hate it no matter what. Get that.
But I've been really enjoying playing as a frost mage.
I like the rotation. I like the little mini game of
tracking your shadowing stacks. I'm going to shoot for 3K which
I'm almost there. I have I think two more 2
dungeons that aren't I'm to the 12.
But I I gave myself a little challenge.
I only pushed my I only ran my own key.
But my first key I got friends to carry me through a 10 so that
the next week I had a 10 so that that's a lift up.
But from that point, I only ran my own key up until I had all of
the keys done at a 10 or better, and then I was plugging into
keys to farm specific pieces of gear.
But I'm, I'm actually getting pretty good at it.
I think, you know, I'm, I'm decent.
I can purple parse in in heroic grade anyway, which isn't
terrible. And more importantly, I'm having
fun and you know, it's just a chill time.
Are you pugging into rating or is that with like one of your
friends? No, just pugs.
I log on on Tuesday, I jump in Tuesday.
Listen, if you're anybody playing this game, here's a hot
tip. If you're playing the game and
you're somebody who pugs primarily, do your pugs on
Tuesday and Wednesday and don't ever think about doing them any
other day of the week. Tuesday and Wednesday, you get
all of the alts from all of the juicers.
You get people who typically know the mechanics and know what
they're doing. So yeah, on Tuesday I usually
log in, bug a quick chimeras jumping to avoid Spire and A and
a March and have some fun, yeah. OK.
Well, thank you for entertaining me with my 20 questions.
Yeah, no problem, no problem. Frost mage means where it's at
and that it sucks because I actually think it's pretty good
this season. But I'm I'm not a mage, a long
time mage. This is an effect of the
simplification of the DPS classes.
I have a theory that every DPS class feels amazing if you are
new to that DPS class but feral druid was the same.
I played feral druid at the start of the season and I was
like man this is great and every feral druid that I knew hated
it. Frost mage feels great and every
frost mage that I know well every mage that I know hates it
because they don't like frost. They only want to play fire in
arcane. They hate frost with a passion
when it's the best boss, best spec for a raid.
They're miserable. And then they say make up.
All these reasons why it's broken and bad.
And if you don't agree with that statement, if you have facts to
show me why I'm wrong, we jump into the discord and let us
know. It's a comment on Spotify.
Did you know Spotify has rankings?
I only found out tonight. Sorry, side tangent, I only
found out tonight that you can rank the shows that you listen
to on Spotify out of stars, and I'm embarrassed to say I hadn't
even rated this show myself because I didn't even know it
existed. Anyway, if you were like me,
listeners, you can give Spotify rankings to the things you
listen to. Who knew?
All of the Frost majors are
giving us one star today. We're just going to tank.
Yeah, but I think that's a theory that I have that anybody
new to DPS spec in this world of reduced complexity probably is
enjoying those DPS. And anybody who's played one
spec for a long time is kind of a little salty and doesn't like
change and feels bad about it and can give you good reasons
why it feels bad. But yeah, that's what I think.
And I don't know if it's good or bad that that's the way that it
is. I think it's healthy that people
will try more specs and enjoy them, but you don't want to lose
those people who like or dyed in the wool subtlety rogues, you
know? I I do think you're kind of
right on that though, because I do remember before the prune
came, I was a big proponent of the fact that one button
rotations making everyone so happy makes me like, we need to
means that things are too complex.
We need to cut things down. And then they took away
literally one thing from havoc. And I was like, what do you
mean? I don't have my schedule.
I'm so bored when I have one fewer button depressed.
And it's also, I think part of it is really even like dumb
little things like I have my key binds all set up.
I honestly don't even remember what I put in place of sigil.
There's a non zero chance of empty because that's, that's,
that's my sigil button, right? Like I, yeah, I could switch it
to something else that was on like a different hot bar, but I
already have that keyed into a different key bind.
And that like, if I put like, you know, vengeful retreat where
I put sigil, I'm always going to press, you know, my old vengeful
retreat. Like I, I have it set up.
I know where it's supposed to be.
I know where all my buttons are. So if you take them away, I
don't know what to put there. So I, I, I I.
Drink it, Lex. You drink it that you're like I
never have a button for my on used pretty kink it.
The issue is not that I don't have a button for my trinket
many the issue is that I don't use it.
The issue is that I'll have a button and I'll have all sorts
of tell me when things and I never do it.
But now I have only one on used trinket and it's a 2 minute
cooldown. And so I put it on my
metamorphosis and I tell it today I hate on used trinkets so
much. They annoy me because again, I
mean, it's a different thing that I have to put in my
rotation and I have my rotation badly, but I know it and I know
everything is. I know when I process it in what
order, and I know when different things pop up, what button do I
hit? I'm not going.
To you don't want to lose anything from that rotation, but
you want it to be easier. Yeah, exactly do that.
Do that, Blizzard. Make it easier, but don't change
anything. I will say I don't, I, I felt I
was a big whiner. I don't know how much I whined
audibly, but I mentally I was a big whiner about losing sigil
when that came out and I, I think it's fine now I'm, I'm
kind of over it. I like, I don't, I haven't
thought about it until this moment when we were talking
about it. I was like, oh, I remember when
I was very mad that sigil was gone.
Honestly, Lex, as a podcaster, I feel most of your whining was
visual. But going beyond that, I think
that you a lot of things that you say are just generally how
people are. People are resistant to change.
We can always identify problems. We're horrible about suggesting
what the answer should because everybody has their own
particular way that that they would want it to be.
So I think, Sean, going back to your point, I think you're
right. I can go through a list of
things that I would want change for like elemental or
enhancement or whatever. And generally I think that the
fact that you've jumped onto frost mage and you're enjoying
frost mage is such a win. I have a friend who is a frost
mage. So like the the like exception
that proves your rule sort of thing with the changes and
stuff. Like, yeah, they were able to
like have like a couple of nitpicks and were like, oh, I'm
sad that we lost this. But now that we're, I think on
the tail end of of this tear pretty much settled into it.
I'm used to the new reality of my DPS might go back to
enhancement next next season. I'm not sure.
It's there's a lot of sizzle guys, whatever class I'm
playing, there's a lot of sizzle.
There's a lot of lights going off and spells and all of that.
And so like, even if I complain a little bit about like, oh, I'm
missing this, damn, it feels fun to press those buttons still
though. I never would have been able to
swap off a storm strike because it's the second best sound
effect in the game of storm strike.
Brock, second best being Divine, told you can't.
Crash lightning. Crash lightning is like the
second best spell in the game next to heroically.
My God I I will. Like if I could put heroically
on every class. Oh man that's like hot sauce
man. Just pour it on everything.
Oregon Leap is really good, especially if you're a mountain
thing because you get the Thunder peel from the land as
well as an effect. That might be a glyph.
Anyway, that's that's what we've
been doing in Warcraft. This is the longest we've ever
opened the show by talking about what we're doing.
And it felt great, folks. It felt great.
We're going to give it some news.
This is where I would play our Good News Everybody sounder if
we had one, but we don't because we're not that kind of show.
Good news everyone. Lex Manny.
Predictions were made, dates were picked.
Passed up. Bets were offered.
I make no bet. And we got a we got a launch
date for midnight 12 point O .7 Revelations.
That content update mostly goes live on June 16th.
I don't remember which one of us predicted that date over and
over again. Can you remember one of us?
It was Lex. I don't want to talk about it.
I'm fairly certain it was Lex, but I was also kind of tuned out
last episode, so we'll we'll have to go back to the record.
We'll have to go back and check. Yeah, we'll have to go.
This is where I'll play the clip of me thing.
So coming out June 16th, not a surprise.
If you listen to this show, I don't think there's been a date
that I've been wrong about since I joined the show of a thing
coming. So not a shock that this is
coming when it is. But there are a couple of small
surprises I do want to touch on. And the first one, man, I'm
going to throw this to you, the Omnium Folio.
So this is our borrowed power that will last.
This is our lease. I'm not going to call it
borrowed power because we're getting it for the whole
expansion. This is our least power.
This is a long term lease. We got to return this thing with
low mileage that is launching with the patch on the 16th, but
there is a five week quest chain before we can Max it out.
And I don't know if it's guaranteed that it even unlocks
on week 1 because as per Blizzard's note, it says once
unlocked you'll be entrusted with the Omni and folio of Runic
Ledger containing Confidence of Power.
You can use a battle and we know that it's five weeks to Max it,
but there's no guarantee that it unlocks Week 1.
I don't even know. I don't even know what I want
you to say at this point, Manny, because I already know how you
feel about this. Well, OK, here's here's how it
is guys. There might be some really cool
story attached to this. We might have the like
questionly gay duo bickering at each other and I'm all for that.
That's going to be fun. Just those two going at each
other and you're just like, shut up and kiss a bit.
Like it just happens week after week after week, right?
And it's June, guys, this is the perfect month for that.
So you know what, go for it. I suspect that each week they
will unlock one additional column towards it so that you'll
be like, Oh yes, you've, you've got the Macguffin and you've put
it into, into the thing. Good job MacGyver, here's an
extra power. And then next week you'll come
back and it'll be like we've coincidentally found a new
Macguffin for you to get. And so you'll go through each
week. Unlucky new row until you get to
the final row and congratulations, you now have
have everything As I said last last week, this is a process
that will likely be short formed in the future.
So if you are really not feeling like it, you can come back
later. It'll be fine guys.
It'll be fine. Yeah, this is something that's
supposed to last until the end of the expansion as some sort of
like overarching power, which which means that like hey guys,
your stuff will get hot fixed as soon as they find out they're
balanced incorrectly and will get hot fixed later as soon as
they realize that they have to adjust the balance.
But you will still get some of it all the way through till we
end things on midnight. We are at the dawn of a new
expansion and so go ahead, enjoy this, if not for the story, just
for like some fun things to do, a single player content which
you know, the pickings are kind of thin right now.
And this will give you some granted power that will allow
you to push through all that other stuff that we were talking
about. And if you want hips and tricks
about like what's going to be good, there's a bunch of sites
for that. Yeah, I think I just want to
prep everybody for the reality that we might not unlock this
and have access to it the week of the 16th, but it might be a
multi week West chain to unlock it.
I would, I would really think that they should avoid that.
I would think that it's more likely to be weeks one through
5, then closer to weeks 3 through 8 of this eight week
cycle that they're doing just because they want you to nerf
the raid. You know what actually, because
there is a raid that like could get nerfed.
I could see this coming out on Week 2.
And then you get like that increasing power gain that helps
you push through the raid that way.
I just generally don't like that people will be like, OK, I'm
pushing to be in that top 1% of the new Mythic plus system that
we've had. And really the strongest and the
best chance and the furthest you could possibly go will be
limited to like the week that this is fully unlocked and the
the weeks thereafter. That to me would be a real bad
position to put players in. The fact that it's five week C
also feels a little bit long. If you ask me, I'd I'd put.
It 5 weeks, 5 weeks to Max it in an 8 week season, yeah.
I personally, I'm not in love with the weekly.
It seems like the thing that they're doing a lot is a like,
we're going to give you a thing. And then every week you do a
little bit more. And I know this isn't like a new
concept in in Blizzard, but it feels like it's almost every
power game right now. And I just, I, it's probably
just that I'm, you know, raid logging more than I should.
And that's my own problem. But it feels bad when you like
log into raid. You're like, Oh Jesus I didn't
do. That Lex, do you remember back
in the yesteryear's back in the War Within, we got an expansion,
sorry, rather a patch. And the patch had week 1
basically nothing. And then Week 2 they added
something and then week 4 they added something.
And so they were like, yeah, sorry guys, we really should
have put more up front and not gated all of this stuff.
I don't I'm glad that the pendulum hasn't gone completely
the opposite way, but I think they could just move it a bit
further. I'll give them points for not
completely going the opposite way and be like, here's a
million things. Actually, no, wait, that was
last patch. OK, so they did struck up and
now they're kind of going back forth.
Well, Manny, I I have good news for you Turbulent time ways.
Another headline part of this patch will be launching on June
30th. This is our turbulent time,
which this is your, your time walking that after doing 4
weeks, 44 dodges a week or four week or 4 weeks, you unlock
Viranoth mount, which is cool, but they've also extended.
There's an XP buff that comes to this.
That XP buff used to be character wide.
Each character would have to do four time walking dungeons to
get this XP buff, but now it's account wide.
The one character can do the four dungeons and then the buff
goes account wide as long as nobody dies and you can keep
that up, which is great. So that's not coming at the
launch of the patch. That's coming two weeks after
the patch launches. And then a week after that, July
7th is when we're going to get the next chapter in the midnight
campaign quest. It's actually if you go on the
PTRI, don't know if this counts as a spoiler.
It's actually listed as chapter one of the 12.1 campaign with
Zol Jan and you're exploring what we're going to be heading
to in a tall U tech. Lex, are you glad that we have
this sort of break before we get the story campaign after the
patch launches so that you guys can experience Sporefall and and
and wrap up the current rates? I tend to no, I don't
understand. I, I want my patch on my patch
patch time and I would rather just have more space between the
patches. I no, I, I, I also don't like
having to remember all of the dates that everything is coming
out and like, and if I'm frustrated with it, I imagine
the people who are not doing weekly podcasts are even more
annoyed. I listen.
I like big space between big chunks and stuff.
Right. I like the original half cycle.
The the concept of like, Yep, there's a lot of time.
And so we're going to wait until things, you know, like we'll
give you space for things to get a little bit boring and then
we're going to dump so much stuff on you and it's going to
be super exciting. And then you're going to get a,
we're going to do it for a while.
I, I, I like that rhythm. I like the fact, frankly, I like
the fact that rhythm means that I can take a break sometimes.
And I, I personally am not in love with the like everything
being spread out, no. Sean, is there anything in this
patch that is confirmed to be coming out on the 16th?
Yes, yes, we have many things coming on the 16th.
Man, tell me about this. I'm glad you asked.
So we're going to have Heroic World here coming on the 16th,
which is open for level 90s and will be a more difficult
challenge tuned for characters at at an item level of about
290. And what it will do is increase
the drop rate you will get from the currencies.
We have the the old accolades marl, that stuff, but it also
will make all of the rares drop champion track war bound items
instead of veteran track war bound items.
So good for alts, not good for the the characters that are
playing in the heroic world, dear, but good for good for.
Alts sorry 290 though you said. Tuned for 290, but the yeah, so
so right now regular world content is tuned for like, I
don't know. 190 or something at the.
Yeah, 190 and it drops veteran track war bound gear from the
rares, but they're upping the difficulty and then making the
rewards from the the rares increase in kind.
And we're also going to have the new void assaults with the, I
don't think they actually call it void assaults, the Mini.
Zones. Yeah, the mini zones.
We're going back to Legion, to Val and and Nagtol.
I don't know how to pronounce that.
Loreheads, please let me know. But that's coming on the 16th
for those 2 little zones, and I think they rotate weekly the way
the zones do now. And then after that, we also
have the Rothmeyer, the Warfol raid that's coming on the 16th.
You'll get your 298 gear. If you're a Mythic grader, it
should be easy. It's meant to be a transition
from heroic to mythic raid. So that's the difficulty level.
So hopefully attainable for most folks.
And it's flex rating. Get a chance in there to go in
with 15 to 25 people. And we're going to get lore
walking with the lower on the 16th.
We were going to join Laura Walker Lily.
I feel like Cho has only just been started as the war Walker
for us to already be interested in a new one.
Doesn't matter. We're getting lore walking with
the Loa. Give us troll background because
we're obviously going to Batali tech for 12.1.
So this will be exciting. You can go and check that out.
I like actually I've enjoyed all of the lore walking so far and
then a mini game where you help the lowest speaker break
generalize new eggs. I somebody will have to tell me
what this is. I assume it's for a mount or
something. Probably never mount, but if you
recall when we were getting all of those lower back, that's a
phoenix. Well, it basically is like
dragon Hawk that comes out of the fire and that's actually a
lower that we've come across a couple of times.
So that one's not a new invention like that one.
Wait, sorry, I have to back way up because this is really
bothering me. Where are you seeing that the
heroic world content is tuned to two?
90 from videos by Mr. GM and BB Messey on YouTube.
That was through PTR testing. Really hard.
Like I don't even think heroic rating.
Like I I'm rating heroic at a 270.
I was watching Dan like in full mythic gear he because he was on
the PTR full mythic gear get his face beat in during it so.
I'm curious what this is going to look like then, because that
if if it's drop, oh, it's war Band champ 46, OK.
Yeah, War band champ. Yeah, OK.
It's the same as the rares now. Like if you kill rares now,
you're doing it. Yeah, for you're killing.
Yeah, I'm certain. I don't want to say what I was
about to say because it will come off as an out of touch with
the vast majority of the player base.
So maybe you are killing rares and that veteran track web on
gear is valuable to you. There are a lot of other.
Just do a delve. It just it feels to me that the
tuning of that is not about like, hey, you can take on stuff
that's because your gear is 290, so here's some champ track.
To me, it feels like we want you to engage in the world in a
fundamentally difficult way where you're not where you're
worried about butt pulling in another mob or two.
Like we have had back back back when like I think Cataclysm was
the last time, like outside world was like even remotely
close to dangerous and that only lasted like a tear.
I think it's supposed to shift the relative difficulty of it
when you are geared so outdoor content is challenging and that
to me seems correct. The champ track rewards, that's
the part that feels out of step for me, but whatever.
And look, I'm famously a proponent of making world
content harder. So if that, even if that's what
they're experimenting with, like they want to see if they can
start pushing it to higher difficulties, that is something
that I'm entirely behind. If it is genuinely tuned to 290,
I think that's maybe a big jump, but A, we'll see and B fair
enough, right. Like not everything has to be
for everyone. And maybe this isn't for me.
I whined about the, you know, smaller version last time they
did 12 point 0.5. So I probably would whine about
it anyway. So yeah, yeah, no, no, that,
that. And listen, I don't know.
I've not been watching these videos.
I am not obviously tuned into what's going on there.
So that number just seemed very big to me.
But I, I could like, I I, I don't know, right?
I surely do not have any information that you 2 do not
have. And it sounds like you 2 have a
lot of information that I don't. Honestly, I hope that the the
push for Morrow, the push for those currencies, that to me
seems like the bigger thing for those people who'd like doing
collecting and such. I would want that that for them
that they're like, oh, let me get all the recipes and all the
patterns and all of that and I will do heroic world content so
that I can, I can get that. Because I know there's a lot of
people who will be like, oh man, the amount of moral that we get
from world content and stuff seems so small and so anemic.
I really want a big push here. Turn up the difficulty, get all
that value you want. Fair, and we will also, you
know, gear is going to get better.
We're going to get our little power boost, we're going to get
all the cute little stuff. So to be fair also this might
not seem as crazy when it actually is dropping, right?
This might seem much more where everyone is at.
I'm going to tell you right now, my gear is not 290.
I'm a 286 or 88, might be 88. I'm shy of 290 for sure.
OK good, that makes me feel better.
I was sitting here like, am I that bad?
Like no. I misspoke.
I apologize. I misspoke.
I just went to check. Yep, 274.
It's tuned for 274. OK, I told 100% locked in there,
we're all good. Everybody who's writing you
Knee. With a good time, damn it.
Sorry, I apologize 274 live correction, OK.
Is there a mythic world? Is there a mythic world tier?
No put. That up to no.
No, there's not 274. I apologize, sorry.
Lower the pitchforks. Please don't let that affect the
rating you're going to give us. No, it's great.
When you make a mistake in content, you get a ton more
comments and it boosts you in the algorithm.
We don't do any algorithmic content, so it doesn't.
Actually matter, but anybody who wrote out the answer before we
got to me correcting it is going to feel so silly for calling me
an idiot. That's 12 point O .7 coming on
June 16th as the prophecy foretold, so make sure you're
ready to go and get having fun eight weeks from then until both
.1 puts it at about August 11th. You can go ahead and mark that
into your calendar. Yes, man, I am.
I'm glad that you're putting out the prediction real quick.
I hope that they slow it down. I don't know.
I just feel like we're right in that the season where it's like
Canada Day, Independence Day, Pride, whatever you want to do,
people are going to be missing time.
School's already out for those folks in the US.
People want to go and do stuff. I know all of us are poor, and
so it's going to be mostly staycations.
You know what actually bring on the contents staycation.
I correct myself midstream. Yeah, delay would be great.
I don't they they, they realistically can't because
they're so tied up against BlizzCon.
They have to get it out before BlizzCon.
Blizzcon's going to be a bunch of announcements about 12.2 and
the Race World First has to be over because most of the people
who are going to be on the MDI mainstage at BlizzCon are Race
World First players, so they need to have the race over
before then. Plus Turbulent Timeways is 6
weeks and every other Turbulent timeways we've had, when it has
ended, the next patches come and that ends on August 10th.
Wait, wait, but BlizzCon and well, you know what this
tournament rails, I'm like, they're having MDI, but the new
season's been out. Are they doing MDI for the
previous that's? Season Season 1 finals so it'll
be season 1 I believe so I. Believe in the Season 2.
Yeah. Cool.
All right. And then Arena World
Championship as well, but I guess that doesn't really change
cause arena's. Balancing tier sets, all of that
does change. Yeah, OK, I guess that matters.
I don't watch a lot of PvP, but we're going to move on, folks.
We're going to slip into some fun updates and bug fixes.
First, though, Lex, what if I told you that there was a
trinket that you could craft that would be your absolute best
trinket across the board? Would that excite you?
No, I hate crafting. It's stressing me out.
I don't understand. I don't know how much I'm
supposed to tip. It's scary.
And then I like do it with my guildies.
I'm like, can you guys do this for me?
And then I'm like, I don't know if I'm supposed to tip.
But they said no, you don't have to.
But I'm scared. They're just saying that's to be
polite. It's really stressful and scary.
Sean, there's rules and I don't know what they are.
I should have asked Manny. Well there was Lex.
There was a trinket, the Dark Moon Dominion.
It was found out this trinket was giving 598 of your lowest
secondary stat on a proc. And people figured out that if
all of my secondary stats are the same number, they are all
the lowest and simultaneously the highest, but they're all the
lowest. And when it procs I get all of
those secondary stats. And this was wreaking havoc on
the mythic plus scene as people were frantically adjusting their
gear to make sure they had the same number across the board or
their secondary stats. Thousands and thousands of gold
spent in re crafts and re gems and re enchants.
Manny, are you somewhat? Did you jump on this?
Did you say hey Dark Moon deck Dominion, I'm all over this?
I did not. But I love it and I am so sad.
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to pop the ball right now.
I'm so sad that it got hot fixed out and it's gone.
I I you know what it was a min Max hell it was you would need
to get gems from like past expansions just to make sure it
lined up because if one was at 297 and one was at 298,
congratulations you screwed up. So you were like micro adjusting
your stats to make sure that they lined up, but even at
giving you 3 stats, it was well above any other stuff
performing, especially for like classes like an elemental shaman
that love stats, that loves all stats, not equally, but love
stats. Just give give it all to me,
right? And when people find this out
mid season and it revolutionizes gearing and you get the sudden
influx of just excitement from like, you know, the hard course,
the min Max is the like absolute sweats, the nerds that are going
to write it all down and do all that sort of stuff.
I love it. It's great.
It's it's a lot of fun for a very small portion of the
population, for a larger set of the population that we're going
to say likes to keep up with the Joneses.
It is a nightmare. It is the I don't want to do
this. I don't want to go through this
guys. The amount of inflation on like
stuff like super old gems and super old enchants, right,
actually less than chance because they would cap out and
say you can't be above a certain thing, but super old gems right
was ridiculous. The amount of people who were
like farming gear gear to like switch things around was like.
I think that that's fine. I think that was fun, but for
those of you guys who are listening to what I'm saying and
being like, Oh my goodness, I would never, that is too much
and all of that. Yeah, that's why they hot fixed
it. Because even if it is A
Midsummer Christmas miracle for some people, it is a nothing but
a huge headache for others. It'll say, OK, this is, I'm
going to be really mean for a second.
It was obviously a bug, like it was obviously a hack.
Of. Course that's going to get all
fixed. I agree with Danny.
I I think that having options like this that are like, you
know, like, oh, like I I think that can hypothetically be cool.
They're like, Oh yeah, if you mid Max perfectly, then you can
get all of your stats every time.
And you guys, of course, no, if they wanted it to mean all of
your stats went up and down, they would have said all like
it. Like pretty obvious, you know,
oopsie. Like we didn't think we coded it
like that and then we did it. Oh.
Shoot. Like, I don't know, I'm sorry if
you spend a lot of money and time on your gear.
I apologize. That must have been really
stressful. And I'm sorry that you you
wasted that time and money. Nah.
OK, If I had been on the ball and had done this and spent the
hundreds and thousands of gold to like get this going and I had
completed a bunch of dungeons and stuff and then it gets swept
out from underneath me. One, I would have kept my old
gear because I know that this wasn't going to last long. 2 I
still think that journey is fun. It is part of the reason that I
love playing on PTR when things are changing or on the beta when
things are changing. I I wish that there were, there
were some things in the game that still allowed you to go
into the weeds with your character.
Like yes, we've simplified or streamlined rotations and and so
forth, but some of that, some of the stuff that you go into for
your rotation in that is kind of cool.
When it's arcane, it's casting Elemental blast in AOE because
you want to keep up that buff, because that buff actually
translates out to more DPS over a certain period of time.
Instead of the game being like, here's a buff that says you
should cast elemental blast all this all the time.
It is the like switching your rotation in three to four
targets or two to three targets in the middle of a fight because
that's what the paladins ask of you.
There's I think that like mastery of the game can allow
you to dig deeper into stuff. Can't allow you to like really
enjoy min maxing. I just think the problem with
this particular example was that it was too rewarding and
required too much effort. I would bring down the effort
and I would bring down the rewards and then I would have
been happy with it. Oh.
Yeah. And I, I think so this is
nothing I did, but I know this, that sort of like gamesmanship
was something that was happening a lot in the I think was the
time walking community, which I actually think I know that they
nerfed. And I know people were really
upset about that. And I think that that was really
sad, right. Again, as someone who's never
done it, I saw how like devastated my time walking
friends were. And I think especially in
something that doesn't really, like hurt people, like, you
know, it's not as intensive, like people don't have their
career set on it doesn't sort of bully you into going a certain
direction. I think having opportunities for
people who like that sort of weird gamemanship is really,
really positive. I think this one was obviously
not what they meant. And I think that's why like, I,
I, I, yeah, of course they, they nerfed it.
Sorry, I'm still being very mean.
I don't. I genuinely I that's I don't.
Think any of that was mean you. I'll let you know when you start
getting on the mean, but keep, yeah.
OK, beautiful. But, but, but yeah, like I, I, I
think that the, the other thing is actually, now that I'm
thinking of it, I, I do think that as much as I want that
opportunity for gamesmanship, I really don't think it can be
like the core gameplay because I don't think most people in World
of Warcraft are comfortable. Well, OK, I'm gonna finish my
sentence then I'm gonna immediately count contradict my
own sentence. I don't think the most people
who play World of Warcraft are really comfortable with the idea
of like, Oh yeah, you could do 2% more damage, but it's really
stressful and hard. So you don't have to do it
right. I think that everyone is going
to see what is sad is their top rotation and their top whatever.
And they're going to be like, well, I guess I have to do that
and it sucks and I hate it. So I hate this game.
That said, I'm very much on record saying things like, you
know, if you like, I think the World of Warcraft put it can put
on as many time limited amounts as they want.
And I don't think that it's World of Warcraft's problem.
Like I, I don't think that they should like, you know, really do
the like dopamine hacking of people.
But I, I think that it, it's OK for there to be things that like
maybe some people are going to engage with maladaptively.
And I think that's kind of not necessarily the World Warcraft
team's problem to like keep you from engaging maladaptively.
You know what I'm saying? So I guess I don't know, I I
doubt that they would put anything like this in the core
game that requires that level of like intensive min maxing.
I don't think it would be super healthy for the game.
But the more I talk, the more I'm kind of unconvincing myself
that I think would be an inherently bad idea or
inherently negative. So yeah, I guess that's above my
pay grade. I too miss zoning into a time
walking dungeon and finding myself gifted with a beautiful
twink. That hard Gary's hard Gary's the
run twinks. If you're out there, we miss you
at 4 hours or off. It's.
Prime month. The trick?
It's gone, yeah. Yeah, the trick is gone.
We're moving on. We're going to talk about a new
thing now. This.
I'm actually excited about this because this is, I raid with the
big one of the bigwigs developers.
I think he's the one who's like the first developer anyway, one
of the bigwigs developers. I raid with him and at the start
of the season I said, hey, with Wicor is gone, it would be
really nice if I could change the name of the spells and the
timers, but I can put them to things that I want to call them
and that I can understand them easier.
And he said we're not built for that.
We would, it would require like a complete rewrite of a lot of
the stuff that we have and it's not something we can do right
now. And I said, OK, cool, 'cause
they rename the abilities themselves.
And most people just get used to the bigwigs, you know, avoid
howl cast being called orbs. They have good names across the
board that they name things, but little did I know that asking
for that and I'm certain other people asked for it as well, but
asking for that sparked in them the desire to see if they could
make it happen. And this week they announced
that yes, in fact, they can make it happen.
You can now. And I think DBM also has its
functionality. I'm not 100% though I don't use
DBM, but you can now. It does OK on Bigwigs, change
the name of the spell that shows up in the bar.
So instead of having it called Void Howl, you could call it
orbs or you could write spread and if ability is on you, you
can change what it says as well. But for example you know you
could have it say soak or stack or dodge if you have a fear on
you or something like that. Though this is huge.
And you can also individually change the timers of when
certain spells appear, but there's ones that are more
important for you. This is is functionality that
is, is like a direct lift from the days of week auras.
And it's something I was very excited to see announced, but I
don't know that everybody on the panel was excited about it.
Lex, how do you like, are you going to make any use of this?
Do you use Bigwigs or do you use DBMI?
Use DBMI. Probably am not because I'm very
lazy. I do think and I to be fair, I
think I must have missed or like have like tuned out the moment
that they allowed DBM and bigwigs to rename abilities
since that was something early on they were like hard set
against. It does sort of feel hot take.
I know on this podcast it does sort of feel like we did a bunch
of fuss and a bunch of stress and pissed everyone off a lot
and now we are back in the same position as we were, you know, a
season ago, except now everything's a little bit worse
and a little bit less accessible and a little bit harder for
people to get into. So when I saw this, I rolled my
eyes as far back in my head as was physical, physically
possible. And now I know what my skull
looks like. But this is not new.
It is not. We knew that this sort of thing
was happening. We knew that they were like,
releasing more and more, you know, of the regulations they
said were, you know, strictly in place.
So fair enough. Whatever.
What can you do? Manny, where do you land on
this? Are you excited about the
ability to to change these? Did you can theoretically write
up a whole list? If you were a say a 21st man, or
you wanted to call for your right team, you could write up a
whole list of these and export them and dump them wholesale
onto your raid to make the fights easier.
So that's what's going to happen.
They're going to be every content creator, every raid
leader, every 21st man that's going to that's going to say
like, here's your package for the raid and we're going to
rename whatever whatever it was called, Azeroth's mystical fart,
whatever. It's now going to be dodge
frontal. And so you'll see it coming on
your board. It says dodge frontal.
I wonder what I'm supposed to do about that.
I don't know what that move is, but I'm not going to think about
it anymore because it's going to say dodge frontal and then
Sean's going to come into my ear and just say, oh, dodge frontal.
I'm like, OK, and that's that's it.
Long and short of it, I guess. Blizzard, I want two things from
you. One is any functionality that
you give to an add on you need to put into the base game.
And two, I now need a water cooler talk or a long form talk
about where exactly you want functionality to because it's
not where you initially said it was anymore.
And every time Lex has to roll her eyes into the back of her
head, it's on you guys now. So like they need to give an
update and let us know where this is going so that there's
some feedback to this conversation.
I played this entire tier without add-ons like DBM, like
the bigwigs. I think that you can get away
with it at a heroic level rating and at the level of mythic plus
that I am hitting the wall of now.
And I think you can go a little bit further if you are more
coordinated or better organized of a team.
But why would you make it harder on yourself?
Like at this, that's a great question.
I want to actually bring it back to Lex because that's something
I want to say. Lex, your team went in with the
intention of not using anything and then realized we we need to
install this. And I think you mentioned we've
all sort of noticed that there's been this tier has been
especially hard on tanks. If you're a new tank, good luck.
But it's been especially hard on tanks.
This can help fix all of that as well.
So is that not, does it not make this like an inherently good
thing that this will make it so that people who previously were
able to clear raids easily and now clear rage whether if
they're struggling? Yeah, and I listen, I I on the
one hand, I kind of know that I'm punishing the behavior I
want, right, like I never was like super pro the add on
apocalypse, as they say. And I think I'm also like
there's a part of me that's a little bit grumpy that they
assign dev work to things that don't really matter anymore.
Although I guess Manny also does make a fairpoint that the the
other way they can fix this is they can say no, you guys, but
we said the whole time isn't what we want is you don't need
the add-ons to do things. So now you can also rename them
on the, the core gameplay, right?
I think that will be fair, right?
I, I, I don't personally know that I agree that it was a big
deal that almost everyone felt like they needed to download an
add on. I also don't know they've
necessarily fixed the fact that most people feel like they need
to download an add on. But if they really, really want
to say, well, I guess this is fine if you guys are going to do
all these insane stuff until you can make it happen.
I think there there is a a valid compromise which is putting in
the court gameplay. So so is it is it am I unhappy
that this ability exists again? No am I frustrated that the
Blizzard team has been kind of like messy with this?
Yes. Am I like again, I'm not like
mad. I mean I, I, I'm frustrated with
this situation. I think it's silly.
I I mostly I mostly am I rolly right?
I mostly just think this is ridiculous and it makes them
look kind of silly and the back and forth and lack of clarity
and like, oh, all of a sudden it is substantially more powerful
to have DBM and big wigs like that.
It doesn't make me like want to quit the game, but it makes me
roll my eyes. I didn't weakens whatever
argument they were making before.
So no, I do I think it's negative.
No, I think it's, I think it's good.
I think this is the thing that people really wanted and I think
that's going to make things easier.
And I think it is good, especially since it has, I mean,
I know my team has been having trouble with this tier.
I don't know how it is in general.
It is felt challenging and you know, it's kind of felt like you
need a a coder who's writing you add-ons on the fly.
So no, I think it's good for the game.
I just think it's silly. Yeah, yeah, Manny, we're going
to end the show with the most positive topic we've had in
months. But before we do, would you like
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Got me angry. And if I piss you off and that's
making you happy, I'm happy for you.
Lex, I can't imagine who would possibly be upset by you, just
like I can't imagine who would be possibly upset by our next
topic. It's June.
It's a new month. That means traders post, but I
think this month we should call it foreign post.
Manny, why don't you take us into this?
All right, so horrible puns aside, I really do love.
Yeah, that's not like, OK, it was like, it was a good segue,
but the humor. Was the show.
Like you got to give him points for one and then I, I, I don't
know, it's a wash. Anyways, this this month we have
a new traders post as always, and the theme is around the sun
walkers, the torn paladins. It is fantastic one because this
is a hugely underserved niche of Warcraft, both the torrents and
especially the torrent Palin, the sun walkers and the priests
as well. Like the torrent priests are
don't get much love, but they're not part of this.
I think that this is the best way to quickly inject some of
that stuff before they can like like without having them to like
shoehorn it in the story. And it's amazing that they came
here. I actually would have expected
it earlier back when we were initially leveling and we had
the Sun Walker that was part of the Aerothorse storyline, but he
didn't get this outfit. But now you guys do.
It also includes multiple weapons, both one handed and two
handed swords, one handed and two handed axes.
Back pieces torrent only or high mountain torrent right and two
sunrock mounts that are clearly paladin torrent paladin
inspired. These mounts are the first
mounts to have a dismount animation, which is I'm hoping
the first of many I love it I love it.
Have you guys been on it? I for those people who don't
stock up on as many tenders as possible, I feel sorry for you
guys because there's just so many good things in this in my
opinion. Yeah I bought both of the armor
sets. I don't play a torrent but I
might. I mostly don't play torrents
because I think all trans mug looks awful on them, but this
trans mug looks dope. I have one complaint.
Where's the shield? It's the sun.
Walkers are paladins, I assume they're not all Retribution
paladins, and some of them might be holy paladins, some of them
might be direction paladins. But there's no torrent themed
shield. I want like a big tree or
something on my arm. Give me a torrent shield.
There's some from BFA that are going to be close that'll
probably do the job. And I'll actually the Maruk
Shields from Dragonflight are also pretty good for torrents.
You can get some really nice ones.
Yeah, there's one with fur that looks pretty good.
But yeah, it, it looks amazing. It's, it's, it's really good.
And there was even some new lore that got like sprinkled in
there. And that is when you mix lore in
with the trading post that that's really exciting stuff.
I, I'm a huge fan. I don't buy the mounts.
I'll get the one for completing the traders thing, the trader's
journey or whatever it's called. But yeah, it's, it's huge.
I'm really excited. I have a friend who's a shaman
only or a torrent only. All of his characters are cows.
And I sent him the picture of the arm and I was like, this
looks dope. And he said we have very
different ideas of what is dope, but he's wrong because it's
amazing. 10 out of 10, no notes but one note.
Where's my sheet? That is a really fair point,
because many of the like one of the axes could have very easily
been a shield. It wouldn't have anywhere.
Yeah, OK, Maybe they redo, maybe they redo the model and
repurpose it as a shield. As long as they don't take away
an axe. Sorry, I apologize.
It took me a second. I was like, no, no, take my axe.
Those axes. I am, I guess, the opposite of
Sean. I went for the mount and then I
was like, well, I got it like this, these weapons and such.
I gotta I gotta the Torin Heritage armor in my which is
obviously built from the ground up for torrents, I think is one
of the best heritage armors in the game bar none and I'll.
Have to check. It out and I do agree with Sean
that much. Much of the armor that gets put
onto a torrent just gets it just looks deformed when you put onto
the torn model. So it's great when you get these
pieces that like work for torn. They also work well for dwarves
strangely enough. Something about the way that
they come together. So even if you are not into
torrents, check this out. It is cool if you guys could
like to say next time come around and do more stuff for
this particular class race combo, who do you, who would you
like to shine the light on or whatever power that they that
they go with? That's a great question.
For me I would like to see more stuff done for meccanomes.
Now I don't know which which like class I would want to mix
with the mecanome race. Definitely not warrior, but I
just feel like mecanomes don't get explored enough.
I'd like to see them like do something with like magic like
like maybe tubes and stuff that like work for like mecano mages
or and stuff like how did they bridge that gap?
And I'd love to see that like show depicted in like armor
stuff and and weapons and so forth.
So I know mecanomes don't have druids, but like if you wanted
to do mecanomes druids and then did like transmog stuff for
that, I'd like that would be insane to me.
But I think this is a great way of like exploring those themes
more. So with that in mind, I'm going
to throw this to you Lex first, which, what class, race, combo
would you want to see explored a little bit?
Class race combo. I'm not I, I I might race would
definitely be Valpira. I think they were one of the
most like anticipated and loved races when we were getting the
allied races and I think they were kind of dropped like a hot
potato, which is really sad because I think they were cool
and cute and they're fun. I don't know what, I guess it's
maybe Rogue I, I I don't know exactly what I don't even know
if there are they're surely they're volpier.
Rogues. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I, I don't know exactly which one.
And I think part, I think that's kind of part of the issue.
I don't know that Volpiera have a a super strong ongoing racial
conversation in the lore I guess.
Yeah, they don't have their defined kit, so you don't know
how that would influence a class.
Right, exactly, exactly. So I, I think Volpier would be a
really good, I think that's one thing that they need to explore
in general, honestly. OK.
Easy for me. I want dwarf warriors.
And let me tell you why I know what you're thinking.
That's boring. Let me tell you why we could do
two different types. We need iron forge weapons and
Shields and armor. We don't have an iron forge
shield that was released after classic.
It just doesn't exist. The brewfest shield is the
closest you're going to find. But I I want I want dwarf
warriors because you can do iron forge like city guard, big plate
wearing, you know, shield wall kind of guys.
But you could also do wild hammer warriors and get them
done up in feathers with the war paint and have it be very
minimalistic and like Viking ask.
Yeah, because dwarfs need things custom made for them because
they have that weird little paunchy belly that makes all
pants and belts and skirts look ridiculous.
Ate it. OK.
Yeah, Dwarf warriors. OK, give me some Wild Hammer
mug. I'd almost want to say dwarf
shamans before dwarf warriors because like the wild hammer,
you haven't actually explored a lot of that and that shamanistic
stuff would then pull into it. I don't think there's.
Some more shaman things in the game.
That's. Crazy, I can't believe you'd
have that opinion. I know.
OK, you know what? Fine.
I'll. I'll switch it up.
Dwarf what?
What dwarfs? Also, do you know what dwarf
demon hunters? Oh man, I've never seen.
That would be sick. I if if we made Demon hunters
more racially inclusive, I think that'd be very fun.
I think little. Stumpy guys.
They turn into like those little treasure goblins out of Diablo.
It's like random war for this. This is you're making a mockery
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