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Hello and welcome to 4 Azeroth. 
I'm your host Sean. 

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And today I am joined by two 
amazing Co hosts and I'm going 

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to introduce them in whatever 
order I damn well feel like. 

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And that is first up from 
beautiful Connecticut. 

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Lex, is that that I get that I 
do the right thing. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
OK. 

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That's the state. 
I'm proud of you. 

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Lex, how is the World of 
Warcraft treating you? 

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That's really stressful. 
Yeah, it's hard. 

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It's hard. 
This is why I make you guys do 

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it. 
I I can't handle any stress. 

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It's been good. 
I so I'm kind of hitting the 

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pre, pre patch lull pretty hard 
right now. 

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But I'm having a good time. 
I'm relaxed and I'm getting 

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getting back into the flow of 
things. 

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I'm getting into chainmail, 
which is fun. 

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That's my new hobby of the 
moment. 

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Does that mean you bought the 
bikini out of the traders post? 

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No no I I although I am seeing 
all the like Reddit posts and 

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like wondering if I could if how
how it would actually feel to 

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try to make a chainmail bikini. 
So unlikely to ever happen, but 

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if it does, you guys will be the
first to know. 

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Perfect. 
Do you owe? 

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Do you mean real chainmail? 
Like you're making chainmail at 

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home? 
Yeah, well, so currently I'm 

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just making cute little 
bracelets to I I think this is 

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the thing that I'm allowed to 
talk about publicly. 

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And there's like a group of 
people who trade like friendship

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bracelets at Philip BlizzCon. 
And so I decided to go hard mode

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and do little chainmail 
bracelets. 

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We'll see if anyone wants them. 
It's fine if you guys don't, but

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I, yeah, Sean can have that 
totally. 

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And it worst taste scenario and 
my friends. 

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So I'm not getting like deep 
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chainmail at the moment other 
and I'm doing like basic weaves,

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but I do have dreams of getting 
deeper into it. 

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I dabble in Larping and so 
having a skill that I could 

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bring to LARPS like making chain
now would be really really 

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helpful in making me feel 
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and doing things. 
Very cool. 

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Not for me, but for listeners 
who don't know what LARP is, 

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because I definitely totally 
know what LARP ING is. 

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But could you just explain 
quickly before we introduce? 

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I'm going to just say hi so he 
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to get him a proper direction. 
Manny's here too. 

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Hi Manny, But don't tell us 
anything about your week yet. 

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We're going to come to you 
properly, but I just don't want 

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you to feel like you can't 
engage with this incredibly fun 

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story we're getting from Lex on 
chainmail and Larping. 

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So what was? 
Larping again. 

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So Larping is live action role 
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So it's basically like, think of
like a Renfair but only a few 

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people and there's a storyline 
or I guess think of just 

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role-playing, but you're doing 
it live with like swords and 

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magical things you throw at each
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I haven't done a ton of it. 
I've only ever cast LARP, which 

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is basically when you're the 
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So you go in and you have the 
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it and need like enemies and 
little things to do. 

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And like, you know, you're going
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with these people and you're 
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things like that. 
So the players have something to

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flesh out the world. 
So I haven't really ever, I 

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mean, I've, I've never, I really
like casting LARP. 

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I think developing a character 
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stressful for me. 
But showing up and being like, 

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Hey, tell me where to go and 
what to do, That's really fun. 

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And then you get to like be part
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have to dig into the, the 
characterization and everything.

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So that's my, I've only done a 
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like it. 
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keeping me from it is that 
there's not really anything 

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close enough to me that it's 
easy to get to without needing 

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like a dog sitter or something. 
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I think I've seen TikTok videos.
Are they called reels or shorts 

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or clips? 
I've seen videos, I've seen 

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short videos. 
I think that is what you're 

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talking about. 
And it was a guy walked up to 

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like a bar and he had to put his
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And then the bar maiden, I told 
him how bad he was while she 

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poured the beer that he 
purchased down his throat. 

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So you would be, you would be 
her. 

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Is that right 'cause she would 
be an interest? 

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That's basic grandfare stuff. 
Basic grand. 

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OK, OK. 
Come on that. 

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Happens all the time. 
OK, exciting stuff. 

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I can't wait to hear more about 
Alexis, Journey into chainmail 

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and Larping. 
This is fantastic. 

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This show's taking a turn. 
But before we turn too fast and 

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we get kicked off the air, 
Manny, how has the World of 

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Warcraft been treating you 
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I mean today I have not played 
the World of Warcraft people who

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are watching the YouTube video. 
Today I'm officially blind. 

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Unfortunately I could not find 
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Spent the day looking for them. 
Made my work day extra long 

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because it took longer to look 
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screen and I took frequent 
visits into other places to try 

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and find these glasses. 
So I haven't played today, but I

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am still plotting along with the
housing. 

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Really have done a pretty good 
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and figuring out what I want to 
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then making some gold off of 
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So everybody on my war band has 
at least half a million gold, if

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not like several million gold, 
which is nice. 

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That was part of the goal of 
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some gold and the housing has 
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that but I just I can't put in 
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hour. 
We've got friend of the show 

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Bega and those auction house 
goblins that are like healing it

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with housing because anybody who
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some of these items, you know 
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And so, yeah, you can end up 
selling some of these things for

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10s of thousands of gold a pop 
or like so smaller things for 

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like 5K or so. 
It's a it's a nice little 

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racket. 
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with Lex. 
I'm in the bit of the flow down.

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I've done all the major goals. 
I've got the KSM. 

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And a special shout out to you, 
Sean, who helped with Mr. 

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Missile Dine online and helped 
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past weekend. 
That was something that I, he 

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wanted to do. 
And John came in and helped, 

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helped and tanked for us and we 
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So good for him. 
As for me, yeah, I'm waiting for

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next week and that's when all 
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Yeah, big. 
We have a big, big week coming 

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up. 
So this is our our last official

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week of midnight season 3. 
Anything that's on your bucket 

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list to get done, this is it. 
You're in the end game now to 

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quote Doctor Strange from a 
little movie called Avengers. 

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Something something Infinity 
gauntlet war. 

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I'm a big marvel fan. 
It shows. 

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I also this week get a little 
housing, but just very little. 

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We have our housing competition 
with our and our Guild and I had

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to go and take photos of my 
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And that's really all I did in 
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tanking a couple dungeons for 
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But housing is where it's at. 
Housing is where we're going to 

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start. 
Our first story tonight. 

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There was a massive interview 
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into like she want to tell us 
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Yeah, so the deal with housing 
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There's a lot more stuff going 
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And they, the, the developers 
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at a point where, you know, 
there's so much excitement and 

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there's so many new things that 
it feels like they're constantly

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getting new things on their 
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So just because they're not 
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right now doesn't mean they're 
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they don't want to. 
It's just that they do have to 

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structure things, right? 
They have to give us things that

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come at at certain times. 
So in January 20th we're getting

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a bunch of new housing stuff 
with pre patch, one of which is 

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going to be the neighborhood 
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excited about. 
That was one thing that I always

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thought would be a cool way to 
bring the neighborhood together,

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which is basically the the the 
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stuff. 
That was very helpful, I'm sure.

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But like these neighborhood wide
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can all do when you all chip in 
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get cooler stuff and it scales 
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your neighborhoods. 
You don't have to worry about 

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like, oh, nobody's doing 
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So I never got anything makes 
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Hang out with your friends, do 
cool, fun things, enjoy 

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yourself. 
They are, but they talked a 

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bunch about a bunch of different
things that they are working on.

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So the things that are coming 
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point O or after like right 
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that, they are going to be 
getting bigger media or they're 

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hoping some bigger medium sized 
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elf and blood Elf exteriors to 
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They're going to be doing, 
there's going to be a ton of new

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decor dropping with Midnight's 
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They're going to do bad luck 
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There's going to be guaranteed 
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decor. 
There's going to be new noun 

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levels, so they're doing a ton 
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Like I feel like I'm getting 
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So we're going to stop just 
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going to talk about how's it 
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They're going to do a lot of 
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They're talking about doing 
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something that in Final Fantasy 
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And I was really sad we didn't 
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Warcraft. 
So you can like pick things up, 

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you can read the books that you 
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And they also have big ideas 
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soon ish that they don't have a 
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They're going to give us a clear
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excited about. 
They are going to they promised 

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us they're going to let their 
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That is I was saying in the the 
discord something I'm losing my 

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mind about. 
We are going to be getting Guild

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halls. 
Is is on the plan Pretty soon 

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you should be able to Co design 
or Co own houses with your 

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besties. 
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They're also like talking about 
things like basements and 

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communal spaces, more events for
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So basically the the TLDR is 
there's a lot, right? 

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There's a lot of really fun 
things coming. 

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They have a lot of thoughts, 
they have a lot of ideas. 

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I'm wondering you 2, what are we
most excited about? 

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I have been very open about the 
fact what I'm most excited about

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is pets and I'm curious what 
we're all hyped about. 

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I, I mean, I think Holly put it 
best in the articles where 

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whenever they mentioned 
something, there's like 20 more 

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questions that pop up. 
So it's just like, oh, 

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basements. 
And it's like, oh, I could do 

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like my upside down carazan in 
my own home sort of thing. 

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So like everything they say 
sparks some sort of like wild 

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rabbit hole that I, that I go 
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But like the questions that sort
of pop up or the immediate like,

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but if you do this, what happens
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Like they're talking about 
people owning a house in sort of

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a marriage thing. 
And it's like, well, what 

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happens at the divorce, right? 
We're going to split that house 

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5050. 
And so in my head, I'm like, OK,

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you just like mirror everything.
But some things get locked out 

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if you don't personally have the
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It. 
I guess because of that, what I 

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am most excited for is a housing
road map like because there's so

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many things that like I keep 
going like over if they put out 

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just ahead of the launch of 
midnight or or so they put out 

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the like, hey, our housing road 
map coming in this patch and 

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this patch you we're going to 
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this. 
It's going to be that. 

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That's that's what I would 
really like because then I can 

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get a lot more things, even if 
it's not exactly what like I 

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would put on the top of my list.
The combined anticipation will 

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be great. 
Yeah, it's exciting. 

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It's really like the road map is
huge pets also, as soon as they 

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figure out collision, we're 
getting those pets. 

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So that's I'm also very excited.
I just want to walk into my 

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house and have it just be full 
of animals, just like an 

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absolute zoo. 
That's great. 

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But I think something that that 
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that that that to me, they are 
the biggest like, hey, this is 

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great #1 is how invested the 
team is from the top, like Ian's

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the top, from the top down all 
the way down. 

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Everybody is like excited about 
housing. 

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They're. 
They're in, they're buying in, 

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they're loving what the 
community's doing and they're 

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not saying no to requests. 
They're saying, let's see if we 

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can. 
You know, people are we did. 

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We saw with the floating houses.
It wasn't that, no, we're going 

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to Nix that. 
It was OK, let's make this 

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legit. 
And that sort of open minded 

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approach to housing to really, 
it really makes it feel like 

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we're as a community building it
alongside the dev team. 

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And the second thing is they're 
the way that they're subtly 

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solving problems before they 
become problems with the housing

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decor drops that you mentioned 
that have bad luck protection. 

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They're personal route. 
So you're not rolling against 

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this never ending sea of pugs or
guildies who want seven of the 

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item. 
You know, it's personal loot, 

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you get it or you don't. 
So they're they're already 

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heading off these potential 
issues. 

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I'm really, really impressed 
with everything that they're 

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doing. 
It's it's going to be a good 

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time. 
Lex, when when pets come out 

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will you quit raiding and will 
that be it? 

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Oh, probably all I want to do is
hang out with all my little 

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baby. 
So I, I, I, I will become a pet 

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collector at that moment just so
that I can have more and more. 

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They're going to have to put 
like I've actually I've as I say

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this, I'm sure they will put 
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your house, but yeah, that will 
be that will be my new life is 

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pets and mounts. 
I I just I would like only 

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animals as far as the eye can 
see my entire house. 

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Lee dedicated to animals. 
I will be buying as much as I 

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can so that I can build more 
room so I can put more animals 

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in my house. 
Frankly, the dream of my actual 

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life. 
But in my actual life I have to 

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think about things like pet 
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I mean they could. 
They could put pet food into the

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game as well, not so much as an 
upkeep thing Corona trigger a 

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game I love, had this entire 
like little hidden system where 

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if you didn't feed your cat 
throughout the game, it would 

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run away at the very end of the 
game, and that was like one of 

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the endings. 
You could have anyways separate 

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thing if they put like little 
pet containers so that so that 

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like pet would be attracted to 
that that position, that would 

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be thumbs up in my book. 
I I would love that for your 

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people who collect pets, but for
me, I want like either armor, 

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like the armor racks that they 
have in there. 

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There are preset and there are 
particular items or they're 

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empty. 
I would love like to be able to 

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put weapons that I have claimed,
like if I've got like taste of 

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lash or I've, I've got like a 
wet. 

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It doesn't even matter. 
It's a pitchfork that I like got

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and it means something to me. 
I want to put that up because 

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that is the stuff that like 
makes the house mine versus like

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what I could gather around. 
So more personal investments and

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we can have armor sets on little
dummies that we can throw up. 

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Like I would change out half the
stuff in my quote UN quote 

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trophy room for that to be like,
yeah, he's these are my favorite

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tear sets. 
And then Sean comes in, comes in

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and says, that's stupid. 
You don't look like you don't 

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look like a proper warrior. 
And but he has his own stuff 

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like that's to to me is great. 
Yeah, I love that. 

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I've actually like both your 
ideas. 

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So I'm going to steal somewhere 
in the middle. 

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I want to be able to look at my 
pets on the weapon racks. 

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Just have to have it like jump 
on and to just knock off the 

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helm. 
Or have my weapons walking 

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around my house. 
That would be nice, I mean they 

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do have someone's enchanted 
weapons that could just like 

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path around. 
Like that some of the changes 

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are actually, so it's not just 
waiting for January 20th, 

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January 20th is right around the
corner. 

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But we're also seeing some 
changes that they talked about 

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in the article that are coming 
up that are already implemented 

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now on the beta. 
A big one being the the changing

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of the circles for when you 
adjust items. 

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So now they each have their own 
separate color, those rings so 

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you know when which one it is 
you're looking at. 

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So if you want to move 
horizontally or vertically or 

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diagonally, they're now color 
code. 

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I think it's like purple, green 
and a yellow. 

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I wonder if it if there's a Is 
it red, green, blue? 

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I thought it was red, green, 
blue. 

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Anyways, doesn't matter, they're
different colors. 

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Clearly different colors, which 
is great. 

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Yeah, it's good stuff. 
Good stuff. 

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Anything else either of you 
would like to say about housing 

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and how great it is? 
Oh yeah, like the stuff coming 

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that's real soon. 
Is is real soon? 

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If you are currently at the cap 
that's 5, you get experience 

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that goes beyond the cap. 
So you might be halfway through 

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6 by the time the cap gets 
lifted. 

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And at six from the data mining,
that's when the medium plots are

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are supposed to show up. 
So all of this is right on 

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horizon. 
This is not soon TM. 

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This is soon Blink and it's 
already here kind of stuff. 

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And I love that. 
I love that they are being so 

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like energetic about it, like 
you said, Sean. 

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Yeah, soon, soon. 
The article's great because it 

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breaks down like actually soon, 
not really soon and then 

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probably long. 
It's a really good read. 

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The link, you can find the link 
in the show notes, which I don't

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know if they get posted on the 
podcast, but they're definitely 

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in our Discord under the Show 
Notes channel at bit dot LY 

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slash fast Discord. 
You can you can check those out 

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get a link to the PC Gamer 
article which is really good 

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stuff. 
Yeah, I will say this is a 

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little bit of a side note, but I
feel like after so many years of

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almost everything coming from 
Wowhead, I feel like we've been 

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seeing either we're seeing more 
and more from PC Gamer or I'm 

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just paying closer attention. 
And I kind of like the PC Gamer 

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like more article narrative 
style. 

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I think that it tends to be very
well organized and make things a

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little bit very entertaining to 
read. 

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So I've been enjoying PC Gamer. 
Shout out to you. 

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Yeah, it's good to see different
sources delivering the 

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information, not all being 11 
spot. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. 
Cool. 

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All right. 
We're going to move on. 

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We're going to keep rolling. 
We got a lot to talk about today

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that we were rolling in today 
with like let's sort of 

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manufacture some stuff to talk 
about. 

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And then around noon my time, 
the floodgates opened and we got

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lots to talk about. 
This is a story though that is 

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not new. 
This is a little classic tale. 

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We're going to talk about how 
Classic got a shiny new back end

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this week. 
We don't normally report on 

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classic here so bear with me 
because the reason I want to 

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talk about this is because I 
believe it has further 

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implications for retail down the
road that I want to pitch to my 

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my Co hosts here and see if they
are feeling those same vibes. 

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So Burning Crusade Classic 
Anniversary Edition went live 

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this week and I think they have 
like a 24 hours of maintenance 

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with a six hour extension, which
in the great scheme of things, 

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if your maintenance window is 24
hours, a six hour extension is 

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not that bad because it's all 
relative. 

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But yeah, so it was during this,
just before this maintenance, 

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because it was a long 
maintenance, it was coming out, 

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people were like, why are you 
doing this? 

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We've spun up Anniversary server
so many times before. 

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And Tom Ellis, who was one of 
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Classic, wrote a blog post 
breaking down why the 

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maintenance was going to be 24 
hours and talking with some of 

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the back end changes that were 
coming with it. 

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And these are the kind of posts 
I'm here for. 

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And I'm not going to read the 
whole post. 

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It's it's a long post. 
And he starts by saying there's 

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no news in this post. 
This is just for people who are 

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really nerdy and bored and want 
to know the why. 

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Why are we having a 24 hour 
maintenance period? 

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And the reason is because they 
fundamentally changed the way 

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that they handle. 
The servers on classic servers 

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so they were looking for 
different ways different 

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solutions on how to spin up 
these new anniversary servers 

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without destroying all the 
information that people had and 

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trying to be as least invasive 
on the the players as well and 

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they did find a solution and 
they they're calling it 

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persistent in place. 
That's the name of the solution 

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they're using. 
So it doesn't mean he said 

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doesn't likely mean much at all 
to anyone, but they're they're 

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in full sharing mode anyway. 
So currently data in World of 

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Warcraft lives in three 
databases, the persistent 

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database, which is your 
characters, guilds and items, 

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the account database, which is 
account level things like 

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achievements. 
And finally the regional 

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database, which handles region 
wide things like token character

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numbers on the realms list, 
etcetera. 

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On Tuesday, they copied all of 
our. 

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So normally what they would do 
is because you can't have two 

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versions of Warcraft living in 
the same environment. 

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So they were trying to find a 
solution to that. 

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And what they did on Tuesday is 
they completely, they took all 

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of the data on the account and 
regional database and 

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transitioned it to a new 
database called the environments

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database where both of those 
pieces of information live. 

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And the persistent data is now 
that's where they're going to 

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be. 
They're going to be bending some

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of the rules they've done for a 
long time with the persistent 

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data. 
So the new realms on the new 

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environment are using the old 
persistent data, which is your 

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characters saved, your 
characters, guilds and items, 

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and they're going to draw their 
information from the new 

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environments database. 
So it lets them have different 

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versions of World of Warcraft 
read and write to the same 

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database, which up until now was
not possible. 

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They could not do that. 
Now I know what you're thinking,

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Shawn. 
This is a retail World of 

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Warcraft news show. 
None of you play classic. 

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One of you wasn't even born when
Burnett Crusade came out. 

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Why, man, It's Manny. 
Manny's very young. 

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What? 
No glasses? 

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No glasses? 
Manny, It looks like a little 

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baby. 
And I feel bad. 

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I feel like I was insensitive 
earlier because I am wearing 

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glasses and I was cleaning them 
without thinking of how that may

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have made my friend who has lost
his glasses feel Manny. 

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I apologize if that hurt you. 
No. 

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It's OK, Sean. 
In fact, this is the prettiest 

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you've ever looked. 
Thank you. 

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You meant that facetiously, but 
I'm taking it genuinely because 

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I choose to. 
I will write my own narrative, 

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Sir. 
So why are we talking about 

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this? 
Why are we bringing up classic 

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I, I want to pitch to you guys. 
Lex, Manny. 

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Can I? 
Can I Can you just do a quick 

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guess? 
You could, yeah. 

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All right. 
What do you think I'm going to 

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ask? 
Does this somehow mean that they

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have the new server database so 
that they could do cross region 

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realms with this sort of 
ability? 

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That's a great quote Manny. 
What an insightful question that

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is. 
We will. 

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I like that. 
That is, I hadn't considered 

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00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:14,360
that allowing a the persistent 
database to to write to a new 

453
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,080
environments database that 
contains all regions that that 

454
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,240
might somehow open up the realm 
for a data center esque cross 

455
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,480
region game play much like in 
Final Fantasy 14. 

456
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,080
Lex, what do you think? 
Do you think Manny might be on 

457
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,840
to something here with this 
cross region? 

458
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,520
Well, the one thing I will say 
is if that's true, this does 

459
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,440
kind of put a little bit of a 
pin in. 

460
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,960
Not pin I can't think of. 
For a podcast host, not being 

461
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,720
able to think of words for an 
entire hour is not going to go. 

462
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,880
Great. 
We're going to get through it. 

463
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:52,000
It does kind of like deflate 
your like BlizzCon conversation 

464
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720
you had with the dev where they 
told you to ask them about cross

465
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,800
region come midnight, simply 
because it seems like this is a 

466
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520
brand new thing. 
Like whatever they're doing is 

467
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,360
entirely new, according to this 
post at least assuming we 

468
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,760
believe this. 
And they didn't even know it was

469
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,720
possible. 
And it seems like it was very 

470
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,800
much like, oh God, we have to 
get the, the China realms back 

471
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,120
up and we don't know how to do 
that. 

472
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,360
Oh Christ, oh Lord, oh goodness.
Oh, gracious. 

473
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,200
Which makes me think that this 
is like if, if this is them 

474
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,480
opening the way to cross region.
I, I, I think it very well could

475
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,440
be, but that makes this actually
kind of makes me think they 

476
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,360
weren't working on cross region,
or at least what they're doing 

477
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,560
now is not what they were 
intending. 

478
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,200
But it seems like maybe you guys
disagree. 

479
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,120
I I mean like. 
You're saying there's a chance? 

480
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,360
I'll say that timelines are 
fluid. 

481
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,960
You know, everything that 
happens in this world is now 

482
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,160
like a soup. 
Who knows what priorities they 

483
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,400
have and how things get shifted 
around. 

484
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,240
So even if they're like, yeah, 
ask me again in midnight, it 

485
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,120
could be that like, yeah, we're 
testing on something and we 

486
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:03,480
think it might be ready for 
midnight. 

487
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,160
And then the testing took 
longer. 

488
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320
And so it's not it's not going 
to be ready for midnight. 

489
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,480
And they're like, hey, Classic 
is a safer environment to try 

490
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,720
this on because there are 
multiple versions of classic 

491
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,720
that can simulate simulate the 
the thing. 

492
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,040
But in general, regions aren't 
running different versions of 

493
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,360
the same game. 
They're they're the same thing. 

494
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:32,200
Like if you put them on the same
server all you instead of 

495
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,960
rolling out maintenance in 
waves, you would just everybody 

496
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,640
would go down at the same time. 
You would have that it would 

497
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,720
basically be what all the race 
the world first people wanted 

498
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:45,600
worldwide simultaneous patches 
constantly. 

499
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,600
Like it would be more effort to 
put it into two different 

500
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,080
versions for no real gain in my 
opinion. 

501
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:01,400
So I don't think that this is 
exactly related, but them 

502
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,520
continuing to work on surgery 
infrastructure, continuing to 

503
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,760
improve their game on the back 
end, that's promising. 

504
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,960
And maybe at some point cross 
region will no longer be the 

505
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,680
impossibility that they said it 
was in the past. 

506
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,160
So I'll I'll take that as the 
good thing from this. 

507
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:26,640
I will continue to predict 
everything is a precursor to 

508
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,280
cross region gameplay until I am
correct, and then I will point 

509
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,200
furiously at whichever 
prediction was right and say 

510
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,720
see, I knew it. 
It's. 

511
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,360
Coming tomorrow, it's coming 
tomorrow. 

512
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,040
Broken clock is right twice a 
day. 

513
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,480
That's right. 
That's right. 

514
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,960
It's we. 
We need. 

515
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,880
There's dozens of us. 
We need it. 

516
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,680
We want this. 
I want it too, like no joke, 

517
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,800
cross region would be amazing. 
I have lots of friends in 

518
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,520
Europe, I have people that I've 
raided with all over the world 

519
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:05,080
and I would love that. 
Tomorrow, yesterday, I just what

520
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,280
I want and what I think is going
to happen are two different 

521
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,320
things. 
Yeah, there's an old saying 

522
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,440
about putting things in your 
hands and putting wishes in the 

523
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,360
other hand and seeing which hand
fills up first. 

524
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,880
I never really never really got 
that reference. 

525
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,240
Lex, I have a job for you that I
would normally do poorly, but 

526
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,800
since I'm hosting, I'm Manny 
tonight, so you get to be Sean 

527
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000
tonight, so you get to do this 
poorly. 

528
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Oh yeah. 
So we want to take a little 

529
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,160
moment and thank all of our 
amazing patrons. 

530
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080
One of the we want to 
specifically call out Corny, but

531
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,720
we want to take all of our 
incredible patrons who help us. 

532
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,840
Did you? 
Just say corny. 

533
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,240
I said. 
No, I definitely heard Corning. 

534
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,680
OK, good, good. 
I heard Corning and I'm like, 

535
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,680
what? 
OK, I finally pronounce the name

536
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,840
correct for the first time in my
entire life, and Manny tries to 

537
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,240
gaslight me about saying it. 
Rock. 

538
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,800
Classic Manny. 
But Corning, Congrats, Thank you

539
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,360
for being our amazing patron. 
We love you all so much. 

540
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,360
You help us do what we love to 
do and share this with the 

541
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,200
world. 
For Azeroth is always going to 

542
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,560
be free. 
But if you enjoy the content 

543
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,880
that we produce, you can always 
pledge at our Patreon at 

544
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,160
patreon.com/faz. 
And I say it like an American. 

545
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,400
Make it a Patreon bonus that 
every week that we get a new 

546
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,080
patron. 
Like set it the first tier. 

547
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,160
Every time we get a new Patreon,
we don't read the Patreon. 

548
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,200
We don't read the Patreon. 
Thank you. 

549
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,320
And I wonder if subscriptions go
up. 

550
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,240
I feel like they might you. 
Think we can? 

551
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,600
You want us to not read their 
names out? 

552
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
I got to be honest, this is my 
favorite part of the show. 

553
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,720
This, this entire segment is my 
favorite part every week. 

554
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,400
Sometimes I don't even know 
what's going to come out of my 

555
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
mouth. 
Remember when you did whole 

556
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,920
stories and then we just kind of
pretended that never existed? 

557
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,000
I love that. 
That was my favorite. 

558
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,080
That just vanished into the 
ether. 

559
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,880
It was only for new patrons, 
which we didn't have for a 

560
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,000
while. 
And then we got one. 

561
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,760
But I didn't know I, Manny was 
supposed to give me a heads up 

562
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400
before recordings. 
Hey, we got a new patron. 

563
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,960
And then there was one week when
we got a new patron and he 

564
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,560
didn't give me a heads up and I 
was on the spot and I was like, 

565
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,160
oh, I don't have anything for 
this. 

566
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,520
Yeah, it's all Manny's fault, 
playing Manny. 

567
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,920
Listen you, you made the job up 
yourself on the spot and then 

568
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,360
gave up on it when it proved to 
me that Manny was not going to 

569
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200
do the work for you. 
It's true. 

570
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,320
It's true. 
Yeah, I would like to stick to. 

571
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,840
Your guns. 
I'm going to stick to my guns. 

572
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,160
Yeah, Corning, if you would like
a story, you can send your 

573
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,120
complaints to bit dot LY slash 
faz discord in the new shiny 

574
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Patreon hangout that you have 
access to. 

575
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Feel free to come in and say GDI
want my story? 

576
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Or feel free to come in and say 
it's actually pronounced corny. 

577
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,000
Yeah, it's a corny. 
It actually could be Koro Nene. 

578
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,400
God, if I got it wrong you. 
Guys, Oh my goodness. 

579
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840
I kind of want it to be koro 
Nene. 

580
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,880
No, no, very much not. 
Very much not. 

581
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Oh, we've just gotten a 
notification Cornene has 

582
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,840
unsubscribed from the Patreon. 
Shall we, shall we get back to 

583
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,360
the news? 
Sorry. 

584
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,840
I mean, that's your job. 
My apologies. 

585
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,400
Yeah, I've got this. 
Relax. 

586
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,920
It's Manny. 
It's OK for us to. 

587
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,760
We're Peacocks. 
It'll let us fly. 

588
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520
It's. 
We can't Peacocks fly. 

589
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,160
Are they like chickens? 
No, no, they can fly. 

590
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Peacocks can fly. 
Yeah, Alexa's going to look that

591
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,400
up. 
We're not going to move on. 

592
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,440
Alexa's doing that. 
We got some new affixes coming 

593
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,960
and some dungeon tuning, and 
it's very exciting. 

594
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,960
In a blog post today, Blizzard 
unveiled a new Mythic Plus affix

595
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,640
and changes to the current 
Zalitath Bargains affix. 

596
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,720
So the new affix that we're 
getting starting in midnight is 

597
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Lindormi's guidance. 
And I'm going to read this blue 

598
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,240
post because it's great. 
And it says in this week's beta 

599
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,400
build, we're introducing a new 
Mythic Plus affix designed to 

600
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920
support players who are learning
dungeon routing. 

601
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Lindormi's Guidance When 
Midnight Season 1 begins, this 

602
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,360
affix will be in Mythic Plus 
levels two to five. 

603
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,000
While in Dormi's Guidance is 
active, certain non boss enemies

604
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,440
will be afflicted with Temporal 
Sands, visually highlighting 

605
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,200
them and reducing their health 
and damage done by 5%. 

606
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,560
Defeating these marked enemies 
will fulfill 100% of the player 

607
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,600
forces count, providing a basic 
route through the dungeon. 

608
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,200
Additionally, the affix also 
prevents player deaths from 

609
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,720
reducing the timer. 
Our goal. 

610
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,800
This is the important part. 
Please listen to this part 

611
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,760
carefully. 
High end players. 

612
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Our goal with Lindormi's 
guidance is to help players 

613
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,320
learn a reliable dungeon route 
while still getting comfortable 

614
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,440
with the seasonal dungeons. 
We also hope this affix makes it

615
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,840
easier for groups to align on a 
route in the early myth in the 

616
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:11,000
early levels of Mythic Plus. 
These are not, I repeat, NOT 

617
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,000
intended to be optimal for 
higher end play. 

618
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Instead, they're meant to serve 
as a foundation for groups 

619
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,160
learning the dungeons before 
pushing deeper into mythic plus.

620
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,560
And then the changes. 
On top of that, they are 

621
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,960
shifting current Zaltath 
bargains which start at level 4,

622
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,320
to level 5. 
So they will start at level 5. 

623
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,440
So the TLDR, enemies that are 
marked, they'll be group packs, 

624
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,760
have marked enemies throughout 
the dungeon. 

625
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,360
They do 5% less damage, have 5% 
less health, and if you just 

626
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,800
kill those enemies and follow 
that breadcrumb trail through 

627
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,960
the dungeon, you will hit 100% 
of your enemy forces count and 

628
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,240
you will complete the dungeon. 
And this is designed for 

629
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,800
learning and to make things 
better. 

630
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,240
Lex, I specifically want to ask 
you, as somebody who has dabbled

631
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,560
with tanking in Mythic Plus, 
does this make tanking more 

632
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,920
enticing for you? 
Oh yeah, I'm probably going to 

633
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,920
tank next season. 
Like like genuinely this is 

634
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,600
everything that stressed me out 
about tanking and I think plus I

635
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,520
now have a route. 
I also it sounds like like 

636
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,080
deaths are going to be less 
critical. 

637
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,320
So if I screw up the world with 
an end, people will yell at me 

638
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,960
less. 
This is a like genuine game. 

639
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,440
This is. 
Like. 

640
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Night and day flipping how I 
feel about Mythic Plus. 

641
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,440
I have something more important 
to say. 

642
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,480
Peacocks barely fly. 
If we consider Peacocks flying, 

643
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,920
then we need to consider 
chickens flying too. 

644
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Like they can also flap their 
stupid little wings and then get

645
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,200
a little bit of, yeah, if I got 
really big blankets, I could 

646
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,600
probably get a little bit of 
lift. 

647
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,160
So OK, fine, Peacocks fly a 
little bit, but barely. 

648
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Anyway, Manny, what do you think
about Mythic Plus? 

649
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,640
I mean, I like it. 
There's nothing about this 

650
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,240
implementation that would that 
would be considered AL in a 

651
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,280
sterile, clean environment where
World of Warcraft players don't 

652
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,720
exist. 
Unfortunately, this is being put

653
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000
into the game where World of 
Warcraft players do exist, and I

654
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,040
cannot just imagine the clash 
where people are going to be 

655
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,280
following this around. 
Hey, 5% less HP and $0.05 less 

656
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,679
damage. 
These things are easier to kill 

657
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,679
and they will get you your your 
percentage. 

658
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Why aren't we doing this? 
And there's there's going to be 

659
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,239
that guy who's being like 
pushing 6 and sevens and has 

660
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,800
been earned learning the offman 
road. 

661
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,199
And I'm so much better than 
these players. 

662
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,920
And it's going to be such a bad 
clash and I'm going to hate it. 

663
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960
I'm going to hate it. 
Players are going to ruin this. 

664
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,480
I can I, I'm waiting for the 
local tournament where 

665
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,320
somebody's doing A2 to A to A4 
plus and their trick is to like 

666
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,320
try and snap the ones with the 
Afixes into a. 

667
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,480
It's just the nightmare 
scenarios are just popping into 

668
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840
my head and I know it's going to
happen that that I think this is

669
00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:01,200
great for learning to tank. 
One of the big, big hurdles for 

670
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,080
tanking is that you have to 
learn the routing on top of like

671
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,120
all of these enemies and what 
they do. 

672
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:13,400
This is 1 less thing off of the 
the tanks plate and that's 

673
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,520
great. 
This is great for pugs as well 

674
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,560
because yeah, go to that big one
that's shining over there like 

675
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,360
that's let's do that. 
So All in all, I think this is 

676
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,200
great, but this is not the best 
thing that they put in this 

677
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,800
patch. 
Like good on them for adding 

678
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,880
this affix, but even better and 
I I love the community team, but

679
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,240
whoever did the. 
The developer notes this week is

680
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:44,240
still on Christmas vacation, 
apparently 'cause they skipped 

681
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:48,560
out on the fact that they have 
added a section for keystone 

682
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,560
dungeons into the Dungeon Guide,
which shows what these affixes 

683
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,960
do, what the new affixes are are
doing when Tyrannical comes into

684
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,880
play, all of that. 
You don't have to go off to to a

685
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,480
website. 
You don't have to listen to me 

686
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,680
tell you this week it's this and
and this week it's this. 

687
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,000
It's in game now. 
That's wonderful for new 

688
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,480
players. 
I'm sure everybody who has been 

689
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:22,320
playing since Legion and has 
like made mythic plus their life

690
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,720
has those tools, the method 
dungeon tools, the routing from 

691
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,000
like all the different sites 
radar IO has like their their 

692
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,760
weekly routes and they do 
different routes for like 

693
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,120
various levels as well. 
So all of that is still out 

694
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,040
there, but having this in game 
for people who just want to 

695
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,720
like, you know, dip their toes 
and don't want to get 

696
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,800
immediately told like, why 
didn't you look this up? 

697
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,760
And that's not the route they 
use in the MDI. 

698
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,160
Love it. 
Absolutely love it. 

699
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,560
So big thumbs up from me, even 
though I know the community is 

700
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,640
going to be absolute bastards 
about this. 

701
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,800
I two things obviously massive W
this is a huge WI cannot wait 

702
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,680
till the season starts so that I
can call bad tanks in higher 

703
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:14,160
keys Lynn Dormy tanks for doing 
bad roots. 

704
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Oh, you're, oh, you're. 
No. 

705
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,480
I'm scared. 
You're a Lindormi tank. 

706
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,360
I get it. 
You're a Lindormi tank. 

707
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,520
OK. 
I'm not for the for legal 

708
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,520
reasons. 
It's a joke. 

709
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,280
I would. 
I mean, I will call my friends 

710
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,440
that, but I would never call 
real people that. 

711
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,840
Not that my friends aren't real 
people, it's just. 

712
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,480
That change my Twitter handle. 
I am now Lindormi tank Manny. 

713
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,920
Yeah, Lindormi tank. 
Manny, Always a Lindormi. 

714
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,000
How'd the key go? 
Well, we had a Lindormi tank, so

715
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,760
you know. 
Could handle the extra 5% once 

716
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:45,920
it got removed. 
That's. 

717
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,680
Right, that's right. 
Yeah, those moms are all harder 

718
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,720
now. 
And the other thing is I would 

719
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:55,760
really, I don't think this is 
going to happen, but pie in the 

720
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:02,280
sky, I would like to see this 
marking of the packs, not with 

721
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,560
the remove the debuff on them, 
but just the marking of the 

722
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,320
packs. 
I would like to be able to using

723
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,960
a tool like MDT Mythic Dungeon 
Tools where I set a route and I 

724
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,640
share it to the group and say, 
hey, this is the route we're 

725
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,640
doing. 
I would like for there to be a 

726
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,240
function where either in game or
through that add on where I can 

727
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:23,120
then mark the packs I'm going to
pull so that I can visually see 

728
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,640
what packs we're pulling next 
without having to memorize a map

729
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,160
and have it on a second screen. 
And there's a lot like this is 

730
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,240
great for early tanks and new 
tanks, but it's still, life is 

731
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,200
still hard in these streets for 
old tanks. 

732
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,280
It's hard to hear for a pimp. 
So I definitely I'm a really big

733
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,640
fan of the movie Hustle and 
flow. 

734
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,720
For anybody who's wondering 
where that line came from. 

735
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,160
I almost sang it to you like she
does in the movie. 

736
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,720
But my I'm I have a bit of a 
scratchy throat and it wouldn't 

737
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,920
sound as good and I didn't think
I could convince Lex to sing it.

738
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,560
So I'm excited for this. 
This is this is AW. 

739
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Both of my coasts are like why? 
I'm I'm just trying to, I don't 

740
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,120
know what this is and I I 
already googled the Peacocks so 

741
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,280
I can't Google another thing. 
You don't know, oh, Hustle and 

742
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Flow was an Oscar winning movie 
with Terrence Howard and he is a

743
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,960
pimp and he takes one of the 
girls that works for him and she

744
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,960
becomes a a pop star and that's 
the song they sing. 

745
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,720
She sings. 
Anyway, it's amazing that song 

746
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,160
won an Oscar. 
Like I can't believe we're going

747
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,080
to after the show. 
This is nobody in Warcraft wants

748
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,680
to hear this. 
This is the kind of stuff I get 

749
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,880
comments on YouTube about where 
they're like, why are these guys

750
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,160
talking about Hustle and Flow? 
Terrence Howard is a crack job 

751
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,200
anyway, It's he's just a flat 
earther isn't but not a big 

752
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,800
deal. 
But it's Manny wants me to move 

753
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,760
on. 
Big changes, big WS Manny. 

754
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,600
So we got more dev notes. 
It's been a wild, wild day 

755
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,720
today. 
We had a a very long lull with 

756
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,280
the Christmas break and the week
after. 

757
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,520
Why don't you tell us about the 
dev notes today? 

758
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Honestly, I just made that 
comment and now I'm going to do 

759
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,320
this so you know, forgive me. 
Poor devs. 

760
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,840
Oh yeah. 
You just called them out. 

761
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,840
But we got dev notes with the 
latest deployment and they said,

762
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,440
hey, there's some things in here
and there's some more stuff 

763
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,360
coming with the next deployment 
that we're not going to put in 

764
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,040
here. 
Kind of go back to my initial 

765
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:22,320
statement, but we did get a lot 
of major shifts in how they're 

766
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,720
doing something. 
So overall we're seeing tanks 

767
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:30,440
getting rained in. 
So Blood Decades, Vengeance, 

768
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Demon Hunters, Prod Warriors, 
Guardians all got damaged buffs 

769
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,360
to bring them up. 
We saw prod paladins get some 

770
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:45,400
small damage reductions and the 
Apex talents got that shiny new 

771
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,160
way because like before it was 
just like the line on the side 

772
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:55,680
wasn't that interesting. 
Now it is a continuing single 

773
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,600
talent point that has the little
pips on it so that you can see 

774
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,280
it see it increase as it goes as
you put in the four points and 

775
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:09,640
that's that's quite great. 
There is AUI bug where the 

776
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,280
second point is apparently show 
having a tool tip error when you

777
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,080
put in the fourth point, but 
again, they'll fix that with the

778
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,360
deployment in the next one and 
that'll be good. 

779
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:26,760
Name plates have a more like a 
more forgiving clickable range, 

780
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,040
which is nice if you're clicking
on the name plates. 

781
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,720
So you like get to that one that
you need to interrupt. 

782
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:38,600
But there's still more to go and
we're getting very low on time. 

783
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,360
I did not see any of these 
pointed out as being reflected 

784
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,440
in the lot the pre patch that 
we're getting next week. 

785
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Which? 
All of these that are nameplate 

786
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,000
done that are tuning because 
some things are out of whack. 

787
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,160
I feel like they should kind of 
be be reflected in the pre 

788
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,960
patch, but pretty, pretty 
decent. 

789
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960
I'm glad that they're continuing
to work on it, that they're back

790
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,160
at back at it and we're going 
through that. 

791
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Previously though, we had talked
about how when you're doing 

792
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,520
Mythic plus, that end of week 
reward would be scaling all the 

793
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,520
way up to 18 plus and you would 
get mythic pieces that would go 

794
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,200
beyond one out of six. 
That's not in this build. 

795
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,800
And now again, that was data 
mine. 

796
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,440
That wasn't something that they 
had talked about. 

797
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,920
So and when we say things are 
subject to change, this is what 

798
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,360
we mean. 
But that's accompanied with 

799
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:46,720
another change to Dells, where 
before in the current season of 

800
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,880
the War Within, you would be 
able to get 21 of the precious 

801
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:57,240
precious gilded crests to 
upgrade each week out of out of 

802
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:03,280
the Delves that has been locked 
behind the 4th level. 

803
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Which means at first you're not 
going to get as many that that's

804
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,040
going to slow down your gearing 
through delves. 

805
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,240
And when you take both these 
combined, it looks like they're 

806
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,800
trying to slow down the gearing 
that they had in the previous 

807
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,120
builds. 
The delve thing makes it a 

808
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,760
little bit slower than we have 
on live, but of course we didn't

809
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,040
have the 18 plus end of vault on
live. 

810
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,080
So that's not really a change 
from what you're doing. 

811
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,000
We'll see how this like comes 
out in in the wash, but what do 

812
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,760
you guys think? 
Do you feel like it was better 

813
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,240
supposedly last week when we'd 
be getting all this stuff if you

814
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,080
could push far enough, or do you
think it's better that they put 

815
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,440
a bit of the brakes on it? 
Sean, we'll go with you because 

816
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,640
like I think you only ever 
touched delves like that first 

817
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,040
week. 
I'm. 

818
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,040
Going to let Lex go for I will. 
I do have thoughts but Lex 

819
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,720
looked like she was ready to 
jump in. 

820
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:55,920
So I'm going to let Lex go 
first. 

821
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,240
Yeah, I guess I feel like delves
are already one of the slower 

822
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:03,520
gearing phases, especially for 
the higher level stuff. 

823
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,440
And so nerfing them, it feels 
like I, I, I, I, I feel, and I 

824
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,240
think I've said something 
similar before. 

825
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:15,040
I, I feel like delves are for so
many mythic plus sirs and 

826
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,720
Raiders, sort of a like side 
thing. 

827
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,240
They have to grind the the 
Blizzard team has a tendency to 

828
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:24,880
kind of approach delves with how
how are we going to stale this 

829
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,640
for the people who use delves, 
the side thing they have to 

830
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,480
grind so that they kind of are 
like not able to just pump them.

831
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,200
And I think that does the people
who that hurts the most are the 

832
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,840
people who use delves because 
they want to play delves and 

833
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,360
they don't want to do mythic 
plus, which is why delves are 

834
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,760
supposed to exist. 
And this has been one of my 

835
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,520
ongoing frustrations with them 
where it it feels like delves 

836
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,720
are being tuned for non delvers 
and that's kind of how I feel 

837
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,760
about this. 
But also side question. 

838
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Side question. 
Wait, wait, before you jump into

839
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,120
the side question, I I got to 
refute your first point. 

840
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,880
If you're delves only, you're 
getting heroic track items. 

841
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,320
You're not getting mythic track 
items, which means you have to 

842
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,800
go all the way up to the last 
parts of the gearing track to 

843
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,360
actually even start using the 
gilded. 

844
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:21,000
You're going to be probably 
blocked by by getting through 

845
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,680
those first. 
Like let's say it's 6 out of 6, 

846
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,000
I believe it's the first four 
require the heroic level and 

847
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,360
then gilded is the last five out
of six and six out of 6 didn't 

848
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,080
to push you. 
Wait, didn't they change that? 

849
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,560
So two things. 
First of all, don't I? 

850
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,440
I'm truly losing the mind. 
Aren't. 

851
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,400
Do you get mythic? 
You get the top level track from

852
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,000
the vault though, right? 
Have I forgotten how delving 

853
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,560
gear works? 
No, if I could get mythic stuff 

854
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,920
dropping out of delves. 
It's. 

855
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,440
Especially. 
Not that you get mythic tracks 

856
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,200
FO to delves but there is. 
Let me drop this link for you 

857
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,240
guys in our discord chat. 
This is a breakdown. 

858
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:06,160
They changed the way gearing 
upgrades work for midnight and 

859
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,920
the intention I believe is that 
you get you only use the crests 

860
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,440
that drop from the content to 
upgrade those pieces. 

861
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:21,240
So I think your hero track all 
upgrades with the hero track OK 

862
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,000
rests. 
OK, that would make the gilded 

863
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,920
from delves even more useless 
for people who are just doing 

864
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:28,960
delves. 
Only. 

865
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,320
OK, well then maybe I'm just I'm
forgetting how things work. 

866
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,680
So I forgot I I was not aware of
that change but if it was online

867
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,480
you still have we would still 
need to do it. 

868
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,640
If like they stick to this again
things are are subject to change

869
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,920
and I'm not staying on top of 
this then it becomes completely 

870
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,880
useless for delve only people to
be sitting on gilded. 

871
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Fairpoint. 
Fairpoint. 

872
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Yeah, yeah, it is. 
So Hero has four tracks and they

873
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,960
are all upgraded by Hero crests.
So this doesn't actually if 

874
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,440
you're a Delve only player, this
won't have any impact on you at 

875
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,200
all. 
Who cares, All is good. 

876
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,160
OK, but what was your question? 
I jumped in there just because I

877
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,520
I wanted to talk about that. 
Oh, and it was even. 

878
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,800
I thought there was one thing I 
was doing right as a good player

879
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,960
and now I'm suddenly thinking 
I'm wrong. 

880
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Am I supposed to be clicking on 
name plates instead of tabbing 

881
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:31,560
through? 
Yes, especially if you're going 

882
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:37,360
to like, because if you tab 
through, you're going to be like

883
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,880
tabbing and shift tabbing. 
I'll shift tab sometimes to go 

884
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,920
back to my previous target, but 
tapping you're, you're probably 

885
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,600
going to be tapping that thing a
couple of times to get to the 

886
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,520
one that you actually want. 
And like, there's a six of them,

887
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,400
no? 
What I I thought this was the 

888
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,200
one thing I was doing as a good 
player. 

889
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,240
I was like, OK, yeah, I keyboard
turn. 

890
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,720
OK yeah, I do all this like dumb
ridiculous stuff. 

891
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,680
I have insane add-ons. 
But the one thing I do like an 

892
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,600
actual World of Warcraft player 
is I don't click on names. 

893
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,200
I tab like an adult and turns 
out. 

894
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,960
Like that, especially in the 
early pool, I'll like click on 

895
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,600
the one that I want. 
I'll right Click to like set 

896
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,560
focus on the the one that I need
to like interrupt. 

897
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Like there's a lot of clicking 
on name plates. 

898
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,480
Lex, I'm going to say something 
that might sound toxic. 

899
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,000
I'm but it's not. 
It's. 

900
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,200
I mean this in jest. 
I'm not a good player. 

901
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,280
Yeah, that's no. 
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm 

902
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,320
not. 
I'm not going to say it. 

903
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,680
Lex is the player that we lost 
Wigoris for. 

904
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Wigoris give you a competitive 
advantage over the average 

905
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:49,720
player. 
But I didn't use Wigoris, Shawn.

906
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,880
I didn't understand them. 
For legal reasons, it's a joke. 

907
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,960
Lex is my dear friend. 
I care about her very much. 

908
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,200
That was. 
Not no. 

909
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,400
I'm famously dumb. 
We can. 

910
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,960
We can all see. 
See, now maybe we're all saying 

911
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,240
it. 
I mean, I was vehemently 

912
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:09,320
agreeing with you on the Delve 
things, and then I remembered, 

913
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,280
wait, they changed that? 
Gilded crests do nothing for 

914
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:18,600
Delve. 
Yeah, So I would like to change 

915
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,680
my stance that I didn't say 
because I passed it to Lex and 

916
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,120
let Lex take the fall on this. 
I don't, I I think that change 

917
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:32,360
for Delves is fine. 
Now 3 1/2 minutes after you 

918
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,160
initially asked me how I felt, I
flipped on that. 

919
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:41,200
But I do think that cutting back
on the higher level keys being 

920
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,160
done, changing the myth track 
you're getting in your vault is 

921
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,920
not great. 
Like there should be something 

922
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,760
for those players that are doing
the, you know, above 12 and 

923
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,280
below title. 
Like at this point they're 

924
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,200
literally just doing it for the 
fun. 

925
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,880
Yeah, just like the people who 
somehow go to like 20 twos and 

926
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,520
20 fives. 
Well, they're doing it for. 

927
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,520
Title right and don't get title 
or doing it for the love of the 

928
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,840
game to see how far they can go.
No, they're doing it for for 

929
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,360
title. 
They get very sad and very angry

930
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,920
when they don't get when those 
people who push to that height 

931
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,000
don't get title. 
They write Twitter tirades 

932
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,640
blaming key selling and 
resilient keys for the reason 

933
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520
they couldn't get title. 
And then they make polls saying 

934
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,160
look at how bad resilient keys 
are. 

935
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,240
I didn't get title because 
resilient keys. 

936
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,920
Let these groups sell more of 
them. 

937
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:35,280
That's what those players too. 
They're not doing anything for 

938
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,920
the love of the game. 
If they don't get title, they're

939
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,600
meaningless. 
Blah blah blah nuance blah blah 

940
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,000
blah. 
Not every one of them. 

941
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Blah blah blah. 
Stop with the inflammatory 

942
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,200
comments. 
Anyways, Yeah, there are people 

943
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,800
who push beyond when they get 
rewarded because they want to go

944
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,440
further. 
There are people, there are 

945
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,760
people who go just as far as the
rewards because they feel 

946
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:08,240
anything less is making them 
suboptimal, whether that is 

947
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,600
because they're part of a rate 
team that they love and they 

948
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,040
really want to make sure that 
they are getting those eighteens

949
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,400
done right. 
But before this, they would have

950
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,000
just done twelves and stopped at
it. 

951
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,920
And even though, hey, it's pure 
upside, you're getting this 

952
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,960
other thing, there is a social 
downside to that. 

953
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,000
So it is a give and take and the
and the devs should consider 

954
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:39,800
that like maybe maybe you're 
Sean Wilson or maybe you're 

955
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,280
Manny Thomas, or maybe you're 
Lex Rance and Alexa will be here

956
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,200
for. 
Manny just covered Doxx, right? 

957
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,480
Manny just covered doxing me on 
the he immediately you could for

958
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,520
those of you watching the show, 
you could see a Manny 

959
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,320
immediately go. 
I just fucking Oh, I just shoot,

960
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,640
I just doxed Sean. 
I'm going to dox myself so he 

961
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,760
doesn't get mad at me. 
And then he doxed himself and 

962
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,520
then he was like, well, now I've
said two of us. 

963
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,680
I have to say Lex. 
He's like but I can't actually 

964
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,800
dox. 
Wait, Sean, you know as well as 

965
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,040
anyone else that my full guppy 
is Lex Rants. 

966
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Lex T rants. 
Lex T rants. 

967
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:20,320
Lex Tiberius rants. 
That's right, right. 

968
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:27,360
And we have all been there where
it's like, OK, what does the 

969
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,160
Guild require of me? 
What can I do to help the Guild 

970
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:37,400
And push ourselves to do that, 
whether we wanted to do the 10 

971
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,880
or the 12 or whatever, putting 
it, putting in the 18, we'll 

972
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,560
just shift it further and maybe 
we'll shift it beyond what we 

973
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,040
might otherwise do or otherwise 
consider fun. 

974
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:54,680
So there is a cost to that. 
And like, I think it it, it 

975
00:52:55,080 --> 00:53:01,240
rewards those that are willing 
to push, but it also stresses 

976
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:02,920
those that feel they have to 
push. 

977
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,920
OK, All right. 
You've convinced me. 

978
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,440
Given that I've been titled, 
this isn't relevant to me 

979
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,000
because you know, I was going to
be doing that high anyway. 

980
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Yeah, but you don't push title 
until like you, you pushed it to

981
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,160
18 first week because you're 
going to, you said you're going 

982
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,600
to do that even with this being 
rolled back. 

983
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,000
But you don't push title until 
they introduce like whatever 

984
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,600
confounded thing in the .5 
patch. 

985
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,320
It gives you extra power and 
then put in turbo boost. 

986
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,200
So that's that's when the real 
season starts. 

987
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,640
I think that's garbage. 
Now who's being inflammatory? 

988
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,920
We don't know that there will be
a Mcguffin in the .5 patch that 

989
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:51,360
gives us a power boost. 
Listen, listen, I will make a 

990
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,560
cupcake. 
Specifically whatever flavor 

991
00:53:54,560 --> 00:54:00,200
cupcake you want, Sean. 
If there is no Mcguffin in the 

992
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,880
.5 patch, if they don't replace 
Turboboost with some other 

993
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,360
version of turbo nonsense, 
right? 

994
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,800
What if we get through the .5 
patch and the .5 patch stands on

995
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,080
itself instead of having 
whatever bullshit they want to 

996
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,880
do to force people to come back 
in? 

997
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,200
I will bake you a cupcake and 
I've never baked before in my 

998
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,360
life, so I'm going to learn to 
bake to do this. 

999
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,360
Well, and you're going to be a. 
Real hard one, because baking. 

1000
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,760
One singular cupcake is like. 
Oh no, I'll bake. 

1001
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,560
I'll bake a batch. 
No, you say 1. 

1002
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,400
Manny. 
You did say one, yeah. 

1003
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,560
One goes to Sean, one goes to 
Sean. 

1004
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,200
But I'm not going to like buy a 
bunch of materials and not make 

1005
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,080
a batch. 
You said you would bake a non. 

1006
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,960
Cupcake. 
You would bake a cupcake? 

1007
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,280
I don't know words work. 
Yes, I'll bake one. 

1008
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,360
But like in order to bake 
multiple, you still have to bake

1009
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,480
one. 
OK. 

1010
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,080
All right. 
So I'll send you a list of 

1011
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,120
cupcakes that I'm interested in 
and you wish you could get 

1012
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:04,040
started. 
Changes are happening, changes 

1013
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,080
are coming. 
Big changes are coming on 

1014
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,840
Tuesday, January 20th or 21st if
you're in the EU, 22nd if you're

1015
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,200
in China and I think the 27th 
there's another region. 

1016
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:19,200
Oh, I think China and Korea are 
on different resets. 

1017
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,440
Anyway, lots of changes coming 
next week. 

1018
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,560
Final warning remix ends on the 
19th. 

1019
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,240
It doesn't end on the 20th. 
The patch goes live on the 20th,

1020
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:32,000
but Legion remix ends on reset 
the day of the 19th. 

1021
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,760
So Monday morning at 11 AM 
Eastern Standard Time remix 

1022
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,080
ends. 
Get all your bronze spent before

1023
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,000
then. 
Do not delay, don't miss it. 

1024
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,600
You'll be so sad if you do. 
Gang, we covered a lot of stuff 

1025
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,920
today and we are hitting just 
about an hour. 

1026
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,800
Not really because we had some 
time at the beginning. 

1027
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,600
So we're hitting just about 53 
minutes. 

1028
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:58,640
The perfect The internationally 
known perfect podcast length 53 

1029
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,320
ish minutes. 
Yeah. 

1030
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,240
Which one are you now? 
Continuing to talk so that we go

1031
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,280
way past. 
That I'm not good at ending 

1032
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,480
things. 
This is why I stay in 

1033
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,800
relationships. 
Oh God help us all. 

1034
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,880
Manny's ready. 
Manny's ready for it to end. 

1035
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:19,040
All right, here we go, folks. 
Until next time, may all your 

1036
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,040
hits be grits.