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I want my panda mount give it to
me now. 

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In other news, I'm re rolling to
China realms victory for the 

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Forsaken for Lauderon for the 
Kieran tour for. 

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Pandaria. 
For calendar to the burning 

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region for Gilnaeus, but has 
Sindora. 

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For the Alliance, for the. 
Horn for Azeroth. 

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Hello. 
Look to episode 391 of For 

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Azeroth. 
Just realized, I don't know that

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we ever say the number 
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now just sort of as a warm up 
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400. 
It's going to be a big time, 

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maybe a celebration and we were 
literally just talking about it.

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If you want to hear what we 
said, it'll be uploaded to the 

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the Patreon. 
It's a special behind the seeds 

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only for them. 
But I am here today joined by 

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one of my two favorite Co hosts,
the one and only true villain, 

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Manny. 
Manny, how has the World of 

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Warcraft been treating you? 
I mean, the World of Warcraft 

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has been treating me great, but 
I just, I just want to take a 

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moment and just like bask in 
being in like the top two of 

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your favorite pod podcast hosts.
Like guys, John has stored 

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history where he's done many 
podcasts and currently he's on 2

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separate podcasts. 
And of all of that, I'm in the 

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top five, nay the top 2. 
So I'm I'm basking a. 

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Lot of those were solo shows. 
I I was only thinking you were 

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talking about the current ones. 
I didn't even think about like 

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of. 
All your podcasts? 

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Well, the current ones, there's 
my solo show and and then 

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there's this show where there 
are two go and you are among the

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top two, man, you are among the 
top. 

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Two, you know what? 
It's it's an honor. 

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Thank you, thank you. 
But the World of Warcraft has 

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been strange for me. 12 point O 
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we'll talk about that. 
I have been, as we've been 

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discussing and and all of that, 
I've been going through this bit

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of a burnout sort of thing. 
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in ways that I can, which meant 
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I did not log on right away. 
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the bottlenecks at whatever the 
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happening. 
And I said, logged in a little 

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bit later, did my profession 
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did a little running around for 
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And it wasn't till day 2 that 
which is the day of this 

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recording that I was like, OK, 
let me sneak in an off peak 

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time. 
Let me try and play some of the 

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12 point O 7 stuff. 
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how so much has happened in the 
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And I felt, I got to say, I feel
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I'm usually like that day one 
rush kind of guy. 

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Day 2, Holy crap, a lot of 
things have happened. 

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But what about you, Sean? 
How's World of Warcraft been 

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treating you? 
Well, last weekend I've got to 

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do some keys with my good 
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I won't steal Lex's Thunder, but
they went quite well. 

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We'll let Lex tell how well they
went when she's back on the 

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show. 
And then, like you mentioned, 12

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point O .7 launch yesterday. 
You took a day off. 

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I it went live around 3:00 my 
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the content. 
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for the story quests that are 
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weeks, some weeks later will be 
the story campaign. 

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We went and did Rothmeyer last 
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We're going to talk about 
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My my Guild killed him on Mythic
and then realized there's a toy 

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that turns us all into 
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So we killed it again on heroic 
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of us wouldn't find it on LFR. 
Best toys ever question mark. 

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So that was good. 
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It was his own of all time. 
It's basically just world quest,

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hamster wheel simulator, the 
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every 20 minutes or something. 
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bunch of world quests, and then 
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over and over and over again for
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to me. 
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world tier? 
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tier to start. 
I I tank so everything I say has

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to be taken with the through the
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It's very hard to see it behind 
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world to me. 
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stream today. 
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this, I would just go straight 
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don't think, well, I don't think
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To make to normal Tier 1 a tank 
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Therefore, what's your item 
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390.63. 
Three and then 29290.63. 290.6. 

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Three, OK, All right. 
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you know, anchor point for 
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that you watch, do you know 
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class and spec were? 
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to guess somewhere in the 275 
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OK. 
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having some deaths, like 
constant deaths or like had to 

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be careful how they pull. 
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pulled there was there was some 
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This particular streamer is self
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That's how they describe 
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I would never describe somebody 
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That's their own description for
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So that may have been, it may 
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But yeah, I don't know. 
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going to be, I don't think 
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justify you doing it on normal 
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to do it on heroic world tier. 
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There is like 5 quests which are
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quests. 
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on these mushrooms and hit these
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up to jump on these mushrooms 
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So the quests are and like it's,
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and over again. 
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really quickly. 
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quests. 
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I had some fried eggs. 
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a world quest to respond. 
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them were of the three that I 
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you might love it. 
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right on world quests. 
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complete all of the quests once 
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help out in the zone from 
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name is. 
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and you have to kill 15 rares, 
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world quests, choose the world 
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spawn every 20 minutes. 
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sometimes there's like a the IT 
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before anybody can hit it, so 
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That doesn't test. 
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We're talking like you can get 
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black market Auctionos for 7000 
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Dead realm and by the time I was
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already at their tag limit and 
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for killing them if they were 
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So choose the world Quest one as
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This week. 
This week, yeah. 

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lot more often and less people 
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ahead. 
I I just got to say I did the 

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lower lore walking as well. 
I'm a troll me now. 

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That shit was amazing. 10 out of
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finish. 
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one like minor. 
I wish this had been different 

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and it's just the first section 
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I believe voice acted, fully 
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in the middle of the Northrend 
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would have been more like it 
would have been perfect, would 

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have been absolute perfection. 
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10. 
I it's so good. 

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I'm not kidding. 
I was on the Cariata character 

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looking to see if I could make a
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recording. 
I loved it. 

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OK, I like that. 
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is great for that to like get 
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of Warcraft is a 20 something a 
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And if you go back to the Wrath 
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Yeah, 2008, 2009. 
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That is almost a decade ago. 
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caught up on that sort of stuff.
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the beginning and there's a lot 
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like just know about. 
So the lore walking for that is 

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great. 
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I was just thinking like, oh 
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OK, so Sean, you keep saying you
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straight. 
I want. 

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And my dark spear give it to me 
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Yep, I'm I want my dark spear to
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I I just. 
I have some goddamn pride. 

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Stand up straight. 
Look at you. 

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What would Wol Jin say? 
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we'll get into that later. 
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looking thinking about when 
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world tear is that I think that 
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the raid system where it's like 
here's normal, here's heroic and

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then we'll throw in mythic or 
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They might want to just take a 
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it in a far more granular 
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So you can tear up your your 

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quest so that it's like 2 + 12 
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be the better solution here 
because while you may need 

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higher world tiers, other people
might want something not quite 

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as difficult as you or something
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And I think just like, because 
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shouldn't be that bad to put in 
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tier content. 
What do you think of that 

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suggestion? 
I don't want world content to be

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difficult at all. 
I want to one shot these things.

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I I do not play the game to have
difficult times while I'm doing 

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my weekly S Arales soiree. 
So I did heroic world tear just 

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because it's supposed to be more
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what it was like. 
It's not it. 

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It feels like regular to me. 
So there's I don't notice any 

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I suspect a lot of players 

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won't, but obviously I'm looking
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So take your mileage may vary. 
We did get side note a couple of

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episodes ago. 
I was opining on what the 

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purpose of normal raids are, who
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And I don't know if you know 
this man we have an e-mail 

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account for Ezraoth has an 
e-mail account. 

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It's a Gmail account. 
I imagine it's tied somewhere. 

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We got an e-mail from Wraith and
she was explaining to us how 

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normal is important and how 
there's value in it for her and 

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why and then talked about her 
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they play the game. 
Anyway, it was a lovely e-mail. 

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It was beautifully written. 
Thank you so much. 

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I you sent it over a month ago. 
So if you haven't quit listening

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It's not that we ignored it. 
I'm just an idiot. 

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I didn't anyway, it was lovely. 
So I I'm saying like, I want 

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easy open world content. 
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difficult because to me, if I'm 
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it's going to be in radar and 
keys. 

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challenge in the open world, 
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grant a more granular level of 
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folks. 
But yeah, I don't know what like

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I just don't under the problem 
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So in raid, the difficulty goes 
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bigger challenge. 
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it. 
Keys, same thing. 

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You have to a point for gear, 
but then you start getting IO 

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and you can get title and mounts
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I don't know. 
I guess it's because I don't 

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know. 
I, I don't know, I guess I just 

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don't understand. 
It's like there, there obviously

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is rewarding. 
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Blizzard wouldn't have made like
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the out of thin air these these 
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They have feedback somewhere. 
They have data somewhere that 

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suggests there are players who 
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experience. 
So for them, maybe this heroic 

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world here is great. 
Yeah. 

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It's so hard. 
We need Lex. 

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I don't. 
Know like it's OK I'm going to 

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try and bring you to the the 
well and we'll see if you drink.

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All right, So Sean, there are 
many different types of raid 

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content and raid difficulties 
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mythic level raiding. 
It's it's difficult, it's 

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challenging. 
You have to be super organized, 

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you have to put put in a lot of 
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a different tint of the gear. 
Maybe it'll have like a little 

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extra lightning or effects. 
It's really just the same 

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rewards that you would get from 
any level. 

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So why wouldn't you do it on 
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Because you want to push 
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You want to be the best that you
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then consider people who either 
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to dedicate so many hours to 
being prepped and ready for raid

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or don't want to do the social 
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social obstacles to be part of 
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Those people can find difficulty
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Mythic Plus. 
There are many people who Mythic

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Plus and like This is what I 
this is replacing Radiant. 

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This is what I want to do. 
So far I'm with you 100%. 

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All of this makes sense to me. 
I'm drinking what you're selling

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right now. 
Then there are some people who 

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might have a much shorter period
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They can only fit in maybe 20 
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enough to get in that mythic 
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mythic plus pug into it or have 
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schedule. 
It just does not allow allow for

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it allowing for world content 
which can be normally defeated 

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in like 5 minutes or so. 
Right to be a challenging 

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content could be available to 
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mindset, but just limitations in
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They otherwise they're really 
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allows it for them. 
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fellowship. 
Many people like Fellowship, 

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which is challenging but is way 
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that content, which narrows down
the time you need to get just 

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like a quick little dungeon out.
And you get that like cool 

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little push, however challenging
it be in the fellowship without 

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the organization, without the 
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in queue for for stuff. 
And so this is just another 

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outlet for that within game 
without having to go to another 

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game, if you could imagine that.
You'll ask me at open world 

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content, I don't think there's 
anybody who only has 20 minutes 

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a week to play who is going. 
Man I really wish this world 

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boss was harder. 
It doesn't need to be 20 

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minutes. 
It doesn't need to be 20 

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minutes. 
I don't in total. 

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It can just be 20 minutes in a 
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You've got to take care of a kid
and you can't. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, that's a dungeon in the 

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middle of. 
I think delves fill that hole 

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for sure. 
I understand where delves like 

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in the hierarchy all I 
understand where everything fits

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all instance content, but like 
even harder open world content 

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isn't a challenge for the player
because strangers can show up 

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and kill the thing, right? 
It's not a personal challenge. 

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And I remember, I distinctly 
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longer farming. 
What was that underground area 

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called in Dragonfly where 
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I can't remember under Azure 
under under the underground part

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of where we met the Niffin that 
zone. 

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I can't remember the name of it,
sorry. 

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But I remember once people 
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stuff down there, there was a 
lot of complaints on Twitter 

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that Mob said too much health, 
sure that it was it. 

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So that's harder content that 
people actively said we don't 

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want. 
We just want to collect the 

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things these rares drop. 
The loud people on Twitter do 

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not sorry. 
The loud people on any forum do 

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not represent everybody right? 
Yeah, I guess I just don't know 

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anybody who's like, man, I 
really wish my open world 

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content was harder. 
I'd like these world quests to 

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take 30 minutes instead of five,
and that's. 

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Sorry, being harder doesn't 
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longer. 
Yes as a tank with additional 

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health it will take you margins 
of level the harder but just 

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them hitting harder and it be 
more threatening and me having 

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to use more of my CC, more of my
utility in order to defeat a 

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thing could be a point of 
engagement. 

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There's a point where you're 
levelling where you just start 

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to be able to solo some of these
rares, right? 

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And that becomes a point of 
pride. 

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I can now kill something that 
would normally need a group like

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Stumpy in Harandar or or some of
those ones that are like, man, 

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really you should have three to 
five players. 

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But now I'm strong enough that I
can like, if I kite well and so 

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forth, I can kill, kill this. 
And that is something that I 

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will be like, it's great. 
I don't need to like. 

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Put into chat like looking for 
people to kill an Analius or 

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whatever that fungal guy is 
right now. 

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I know that I can like use my 
rocket lentil to tank for a 

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little bit, get my health back 
and still kill him before he can

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deplete my health bar at the 
second time. 

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And that sort of challenge is 
like does have merit, does have 

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an audience. 
I just don't think that audience

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is really served right now in 
World of Warcraft outside of 

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Delves. 
I do think you're right on 

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Delves. 
Delves do feel a part of that 

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right, But it doesn't mean that 
Delves have to be the only 

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thing. 
If that was the truth and ritual

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sites would have never been 
created, though. 

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I I don't I don't think ritual 
sites is a good defense mind. 

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I guess the issue is I tank and 
I primarily tank and almost all 

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of my characters are tanks. 
I could solo rares on day one, 

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so that's not exciting. 
None of that is. 

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I don't get joy from any of that
open world content. 

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To me, is, is good for the 
story. 

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And once the story is done, then
I just want it to be fast and 

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over. 
I want fast world. 

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Like I missed the BFA days of 
world quest where it was like 

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you could do the whole zone in 
20 minutes, you know? 

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Then we went into shadow Lands 
and it was like, you can't do a 

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single world quest in 20 
minutes. 

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It's just yeah. 
So I just, I don't know. 

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I yeah, I hope whoever wanted 
Heroic World here is excited by 

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their new World Quest simulator 
in Nagtol and Val Shocking. 

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Listen, listeners, I know 
shockingly enough, it's not the 

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content for me. 
Who could have seen this coming?

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But Manny, we're going to move 
on. 

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We're going to talk about some 
content that is for me. 12 point

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0.7 didn't just bring Heroic 
World Tear, it didn't just bring

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the lower lore walking. 
Seriously folks, do the lower 

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lore walking. 
If you've done nothing else from

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this, go do the lower lore 
walking. 

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Also, I found that I'm oddly 
attracted to Pandaren ladies. 

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We'll talk about that later. 
That's something. 

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I'm back later. 
Nah, I've known it from six 

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years. 
A child. 

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Never. 
Never. 

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Why are you on a list, Sean? 
Continue on well not that 

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specific anyway, but there was 
more stuff that launched. 

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We had the omnium folio. 
We're going to talk about that 

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and it's massive 0.23% power 
gain this week, which in 

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fairness, when it's scaled to 
full capacity will be 0.6%. 

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So that's pretty good. 
Airports is actually pretty 

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good. 
No, we're going to talk about 

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spore fall. 
The new one boss raid with 

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mythic flex difficulty came out,
Manny Team liquid claimed world 

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second and then it was the 
judges decided no, no, we're not

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going to count that hacker Guild
that killed it in item level 130

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gear. 
We will just count through this 

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one hacker Guild that has gone 
and gotten world first every 

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tier for like the last four 
tiers. 

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They're insane. 
I don't know what they're doing.

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How many counts have they bought
at this point? 

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It's crazy. 
I don't know, but Team Liquid 

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killed Rottmeyer. 
Can you guess how long it took 

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them to kill this boss? 
I I already know the answer so 

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I'm going to leave this alone. 
It was 15 minutes, 15 minutes 

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from servers up to Rob Meyer and
the the boss fight itself is 

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like a 7 1/2 minute boss fight. 
So they went in there, they were

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running splits on it. 
They took it down. 

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We killed it as well. 
As I mentioned it is a lot of 

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fun. 
It's. 

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Did it take you 20 minutes? 
No, it well it took us. 

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We had three pulls. 
The first one we wiped because I

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think one of our Raiders is 
colour blind. 

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The second time we wiped because
what what? 

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The second time somebody miss a 
kick, I can't remember why it 

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was the second time and the 
third time we killed it, it was 

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a 7 minute 8 second fight for 
us. 

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So on the kill, the fight itself
was a lot of fun. 

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The boss model is really nice 
looking. 

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It's very sharp, but the the 
fight is so comically easy, but 

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very well designed. 
It's there's two different types

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and this is on mythic. 
Two different types of little 

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ads spawn and they fixate 
players and you have to they 

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can't die on top of each other. 
But Blizzard 10 like kudos to 

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Blizzard. 
One has set of them puts a green

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fixate line on players. 
The other set puts a red fixate 

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line on players. 
They have different names, but 

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you get a different color fixate
line. 

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So you know, OK, red good 
arranged R starts with R red go 

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to ranged green go to malate. 
You could do it. 

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You can flip it. 
That's just our Guild did that 

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because it makes it simple. 
And then a third ad spawns that 

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you you kill as well tank on top
of it. 

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Very, very fun boss. 
We're going to kill it every 

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week drops to 98 gear. 
Are you is your Guild getting 

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back together to go pull Rotman 
and will you pull it on mythic? 

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I don't believe we're going to 
kill it on Mythic. 

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The calendar dates have gone up 
for one of my guilds where they 

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are going to do it four times 
exactly, and it is optional 

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attendance because people want 
to take their time away from the

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game. 
So we're going to do 4 weeks 

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starting this week just so we 
can get that mount mount, and 

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that will be Thursday. 
So when this comes out to the 

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general populace, that'll be my 
first play on that or attempt on

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that. 
We'll see how well my team does 

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it. 
I do not believe there's any 

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wish to go towards Mythic. 
My team just stopped doing 

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mythic last expansion. 
Like we were doing some Mythic 

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in Dragon fight, stop doing 
Mythic in The War Within. 

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So there's no appetite to dive 
back into it right now, 

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especially with like everybody's
schedules. 

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The other team is like, Oh yeah,
let's go back in and like, OK, 

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like let's clear it and then 
maybe we'll try Mythic. 

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And so they're very happy, happy
about that. 

448
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,840
But like, it's a heroic team 
that got AOTC started with like 

449
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:42,320
2728 people, like almost 30, 
almost about the cap of heroic. 

450
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,880
And then over the course of this
tear has whittled down to I 

451
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,120
think we'll see what happens 
when the team put the comes 

452
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:59,240
together on Thursday. 
But I'm going to say 20-3 ish, 

453
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:06,360
maybe like hitting 20. 
So it's it's going to also be a 

454
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:09,040
matter of of those remaining 
people, how many are going to go

455
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,560
into mythic? 
So hopefully there will be 

456
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,880
enough, but it's going to be 
like, oh man, I hope we have 15 

457
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,720
if they're going to do that, if 
I'm going to do that, because 

458
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,800
like running the two teams on 
the two tiers was what led to 

459
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,320
this burnout. 
So I might just sit down on the 

460
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,880
bench for one of these teams 
just to hold hold my sanity 

461
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,360
together. 
But yeah, it's good to know 

462
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:36,720
like, what different teams are 
considering specifically because

463
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,560
these teams are roughly about 
the same place in terms of like 

464
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,840
how quickly they were clearing 
through the raid and everything.

465
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,160
Yeah, it's good stuff. 
It's a lot of fun. 

466
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,920
It's great on Heroic. 
Heroic there's only one ad type,

467
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520
so they change from heroic to 
Mythic. 

468
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,600
There's a single AD type, so you
just stack everything on top of 

469
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,080
the spore cap on top of the boss
and kill it. 

470
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,960
The second spore cap will spawn 
away from that group. 

471
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,920
You'll still kill everything on 
top of the first spore cap, 

472
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920
death site and then just solo 
down the the fire spore cap. 

473
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,480
A lot of fun, lot of fun. 
There's a tactics guide for both

474
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,880
normal, heroic and for all 
three, normal, heroic and 

475
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,600
mythic. 
If you're going to do it, I 

476
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840
recommend those guides. 
They are very clear, very 

477
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,160
succinct and it's a Strat we use
and it worked really. 

478
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,840
Well, I actually, I actually 
watched those guides too. 

479
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,400
So yeah, I I will also give my 
recommendation. 

480
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,720
There you go. 
You've got 22 Fazers out of two 

481
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:28,920
recommendations. 
That's right. 

482
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,440
That's right. 
I forgot we're called Fazers. 

483
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,520
I hate it. 
Jazz hands and Fazz hands. 

484
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,640
Forgot. 
About that, but when? 

485
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Do we get to a year left still? 
Why do our listeners have such a

486
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,640
poor taste? 
OK, that's a joke. 

487
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,760
You're listening to this show. 
Your taste is obviously 

488
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,400
excellent. 
That's not all about Sporefall 

489
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,160
though. 
So something was discovered that

490
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600
we think is intended. 
Blizzard has not made a 

491
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,520
statement on it and it would be 
considered insanely game 

492
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,760
breaking if it wasn't intended. 
So I feel like they would have 

493
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:06,760
responded and acted immediately.
But intended or not, spoor fall 

494
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,040
on mythic. 
The first ever flex mythic raid 

495
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,640
does not lock out. 
There is no mythic lock out. 

496
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,400
It functions the same as heroic 
raids. 

497
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,720
So you can go in and kill the 
boss and get your loot and 

498
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,400
leave, and then you can go back 
in with another group and kill 

499
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,560
the boss again and there is no 
loot. 

500
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,320
But every time you kill a boss, 
you can bonus roll. 

501
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,960
There are 298 pieces of gear 
that drop from this boss if 

502
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480
you're killing it on Mythic and 
if you've been saving up your 

503
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,960
bonus rolls over the last couple
of weeks, or if you're on a new 

504
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,600
fresh alt with 18 bonus rolls to
spend, you can go through kill 

505
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,080
this boss five times and get 
every item of loot off of the 

506
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:57,880
boss that you need in the same 
day, if it's intended. 

507
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,720
Crazy what a wild world we live 
in. 

508
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,800
Potentially a view of the mythic
lockup being lifted if it's not 

509
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,720
intended bannable. 
I don't I don't know. 

510
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640
We I have personally not done 
it. 

511
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,120
We've killed Lura so I don't see
a reason to go in and farm out 

512
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,720
298 gear in case it's not 
intended. 

513
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,240
But it's we're, we're on day 2 
now. 

514
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000
And like, if this, it's not a 
secret, it's not a mystery. 

515
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,320
People have been tweeting about 
it. 

516
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,800
They've been posting videos 
about it. 

517
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,240
They've been live streaming and 
doing it. 

518
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,920
They've posted it in every 
channel you can think of to 

519
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,760
Blizzard to say, hey, is this 
cool? 

520
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,400
And it's radio silence. 
So if I learned anything at 

521
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,520
first aid training, it's that 
silence is implied consent. 

522
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320
Yeah, I think that this is the 
case. 

523
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,720
And for this one, I think that 
is a combination of the fact 

524
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,720
that we are very late into tear,
that it is a one boss raid. 

525
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:01,880
And if people want to farm out 
two pieces of of like caps gear 

526
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,040
to then take and beat down like 
whatever they're stuck on, like 

527
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,840
whether that's crown, Bellerin 
or Laura to finish out their 

528
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,760
tier, this is the perfect time 
for it. 

529
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,240
So in this particular 
circumstance, I see no reason 

530
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,200
why why Blizzard would quickly 
nerf this. 

531
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,480
I think that even if they leave 
this the same next tier, which I

532
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:33,480
I don't think is the case, we 
won't get those bonus rolls 

533
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,600
until part way through the tier 
when they're already starting to

534
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,640
nerf things. 
And then, and even then you 

535
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,800
won't get the ability to bonus 
roll on the same boss until like

536
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,960
the second week because it's 
like 2-2 rolls. 

537
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,920
Oh, sorry, two of the tokens per
per thing. 

538
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,000
So it's not until like you're 
like Week 2 where you can take 

539
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,560
the leftovers from both weeks to
make the attempt. 

540
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:06,240
So I don't think it is as game 
breaking as it feels right now 

541
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,960
when everything kind of came 
together in this perfect storm. 

542
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,120
And even if they were to leave 
it, I don't think it is as game 

543
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,040
breaking when when they 
reintroduce bonus rolls, if they

544
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,200
introduce bonus rolls and this 
same thing in the same way, I 

545
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,200
generally think that it is a 
matter of flex mythic and the 

546
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,880
fact that they don't want to 
have raid lockouts on flex 

547
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,320
mythic. 
Just imagine you have a multi 

548
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,080
multi boss tier. 
And so because we want to cut 

549
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:40,400
down for this boss to to like X 
amount of people because it's 

550
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,960
easier at this level and then go
to Y amount of people for the 

551
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,640
next boss. 
Does that mean that the 

552
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000
difference those people are 
locked out and can't get any 

553
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,080
loot? 
That feels way more punishing 

554
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:59,920
and I would almost prefer that 
they allow this small exploit. 

555
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,000
If you want to call an exploit 
this this fun detected is time 

556
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,480
to allow the fun to to happen. 
Yeah, you literally just 

557
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,040
described how mythic rating is 
now though. 

558
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,720
That's how it works if you're on
a mythic grade team with a 

559
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,920
roster larger than 20 and most 
mythic grade teams have a roster

560
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,920
of that 24 ish level. 
You're somewhere between 23 and 

561
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,600
26. 
Usually you're not in for every 

562
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,840
boss and it's not most teams 
don't do this is our roster for 

563
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,120
this week. 
They do boss to boss rostering 

564
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,520
so like it. 
It literally is how almost every

565
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,320
mythic Guild functions is that 
you have people rotating in to a

566
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,800
lockout with two bosses dead 
that they don't get a chance to 

567
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,880
fight or loot that week. 
That's how it works now. 

568
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,080
It it is awful. 
You're right, it sucks because 

569
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,880
if it didn't work that way then 
those people who weren't in on. 

570
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,880
I'll use this here. 
For example, let's say you're 

571
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,960
not in for Imperator Aversion or
Voracius, but you're in for 

572
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,680
Saladar. 
Then you're owed again for 

573
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Dragons, and then you're in for 
Paladins. 

574
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,920
You go in, you know, you zoned 
in to do Saladar and you get a 

575
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,720
thing that says this is a saved 
instance. 

576
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,159
Now you're not getting the 
chance to kill either of the 

577
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,800
first two bosses. 
That's two slots from your vault

578
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,639
that you can't fill because you 
you didn't kill them. 

579
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,320
You kill Saladar, you leave your
team kills Dragons. 

580
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,360
You come back in to paladins and
it says, hey, now it's a four 

581
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,000
save 4 out of eight or four out 
of six saved raid tear. 

582
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,719
Do you want to stay? 
And you say yes again. 

583
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,760
So now it's another like that's 
how it functions now it sucks. 

584
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,080
It sucks. 
So if if they shift, I would I 

585
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,400
mean, it's one thing to say to 
the other doing it for flex. 

586
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,480
I want this for all mythic 
raiding. 

587
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,440
You know, I want to be able to, 
as a mythic Raider who's not in 

588
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,800
for every boss, to be able to go
on the weekend and pug those 

589
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,480
bosses that you haven't gotten 
and that also. 

590
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:50,560
Why would you pug it like 
already teams are pushing 

591
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,920
towards splits. 
Splits are the devil. 

592
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,159
Never. 
We my team never does splits. 

593
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,960
We we don't do any splits, but I
would never, I wouldn't be on a 

594
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,240
team that does splits. 
That's crazy. 

595
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:02,680
It's not needed. 
But you would pug it. 

596
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,360
Yeah, I would go pug them. 
I would go pug them for the, 

597
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,800
because you, you're thinking in 
terms of, you know, using, if 

598
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,840
you do splits, that's raid time 
you're using. 

599
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,800
Your raid time should be focused
on Prague farm, like farm to get

600
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,120
to Prague and then Prague doing 
splits so that half of your 

601
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,680
bench or three players from your
bench can kill 2 bosses at the 

602
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,880
start. 
That's that's super inefficient 

603
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,720
use of your your raid time, your
prog time. 

604
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,160
So yeah, I would definitely that
would be if you're not in for 

605
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,960
these bosses, you go, you pug 
them, have fun. 

606
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,240
I would never teams should never
if this was to become like the 

607
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:41,400
norm and their lock up became 
like heroic. 

608
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,920
No team is going to be killing 
that first boss twice for only 

609
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,080
three people have a chance at 
loop because you also have No, 

610
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,280
they wouldn't do less chance at 
loop. 

611
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,240
You're you're you're, I think 
you're not quite understanding 

612
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,400
how detrimental this becomes 
because there's so many people 

613
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,320
like fired Up that had the top 
the best like 2 mages because of

614
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,440
splits. 
That's not right. 

615
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,920
Like that sort of mentality 
doesn't exist. 

616
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,720
It's out of the top 25 it. 
Trickers down and then this 

617
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,840
becomes a little bit, this makes
it a little bit easier. 

618
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,520
So I'm not going to say it's 
going to be all groups. 

619
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,720
I think that your group and the 
way that you're describing it 

620
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,880
might resist it, but people 
might might feel less resistant 

621
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,320
where it's like, hey, why don't 
you bring your second warrior 

622
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,000
because you didn't get the loot 
on this warrior. 

623
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,760
That's still a huge waste of the
raid time. 

624
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,480
We're talking guilds at raid 3-4
nights a week. 

625
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,880
That's such a massive waste of 
raid time to do that, to go back

626
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,160
in to, to kill on alts that 
you're never going to bring in 

627
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,760
for Maine Broad. 
Nobody's like I am not worried 

628
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,520
about that happening. 
That's not going to happen. 

629
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,160
You particularly split the team 
right where you're like, OK, 

630
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,120
you're sitting out. 
We really Sean, you, you are a 

631
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,480
great player. 
You play all sorts of tanks and 

632
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,240
you can play them at good levels
for for all of them. 

633
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,840
This this tier warriors the best
at a tank for like 9 out of 10 

634
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,640
of the fights. 
But man, do we need ADK for this

635
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,760
fight, right? 
Normally somebody else would 

636
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,800
switch their DK over, or perhaps
you have ADK that you've been 

637
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,320
gearing on the side. 
Wouldn't it be nice to like have

638
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:29,640
the the DK be brought along in a
flex team where it's like, OK, 

639
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,200
these ones that we've got down, 
we're going to bring your your 

640
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:38,720
DK as a, as a extra little thing
that we'll funnel the loot to so

641
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:40,560
that the Prague boss we're going
to deal with. 

642
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,200
Especially since particular 
trinkets are like from the raids

643
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,960
are just like better trinkets 
than a lot of the stuff that you

644
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,800
get from other sources. 
You would just bring that 

645
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,320
character to your main right? 
Like no serious raid team is 

646
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,000
wasting Prague time on an alt 
like this. 

647
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,400
Just it's not happening. 
There's just no way that that 

648
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,520
that mentality, the mentality of
splits existing, you know, it 

649
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,800
might extend to top, I'll say 
top 100 maybe might have 

650
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080
optional splits, but it's not 
that's not an issue that that 

651
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,440
exists beyond that they people 
on teams lower than that don't 

652
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,840
have time, They don't have the 
desire. 

653
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:26,800
Yeah, it's not, that's not 
something even like consequence.

654
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,520
They're I think they were #25 
this year and #1616 this year 

655
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,760
they had one optional split run.
So it's like at like man, that's

656
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,840
16th in the world, right? 
It's not, that's not something 

657
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520
that would would happen that 
just it wouldn't trickle down 

658
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,080
like that. 
If it was going to, it would be 

659
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,960
happening already and people 
would be running heroic splits 

660
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,000
and stuff like that. 
It's just you're not going to, 

661
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,200
especially for two night and 
three night of A grade teams. 

662
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,560
Prod time is so important. 
Heroic splits don't. 

663
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,720
Heroic splits would never happen
because mythic plus out gears 

664
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,760
heroic the. 
Heroic splits definitely 

665
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,720
happened. 
That's the entire. 

666
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:06,640
Sorry, I apologize like but like
for the like teams that stop at 

667
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,960
heroic like if that's their. 
Prague Manny. 

668
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,160
I don't If teams stop at heroic 
it then the mythic laco doesn't 

669
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,760
matter to them. 
It already functions this way so

670
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,520
that's so you can use teams that
stop at heroic as the the same 

671
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,440
like look like if we're talking 
about having mythic lockout 

672
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,800
function the same way that 
heroic lockout happens. 

673
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,840
Now teams that only get AOTC 
aren't running any kind of 

674
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,680
splits and aren't doing any of 
these. 

675
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:36,760
You know nobody's going back and
re killing bosses for alts. 

676
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Also you would have a chance at 
less loot because the loot save 

677
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,000
is based on the number of 
character. 

678
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,760
The loot you get is based on the
number of characters who are 

679
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,200
eligible for loot in the run. 
So if you kill a boss with 20 

680
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,040
people who have been saved and 
five people who aren't saved, 

681
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,400
you get one piece of loot 
instead of five pieces of loot. 

682
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,480
Which is why they do splits with
full characters funneling that 

683
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,320
gear. 
But that like if we're if we're 

684
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,880
talking about heroic only teams,
that doesn't it doesn't happen 

685
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,800
now and splits are super 
prevalent. 

686
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,680
So it's never, I don't think. 
I think we're talking about too,

687
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,000
like I think we're conversation 
split somewhere, split somewhere

688
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:13,640
or think our conversation 
diverts somewhere along the way.

689
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,440
I'm, I'm saying that for 
specific bosses that you want 

690
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,440
the, you want the, you want the 
trinket or whatever particular 

691
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,400
piece of gear that is really 
sought after to then use that 

692
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,680
character in. 
Would you not bring those guys 

693
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,320
in on those fights as like, 
because you have the 

694
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,520
flexibility, right? 
And yeah. 

695
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,520
You would like you would bring 
if you were, if you're so let's 

696
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,240
say it's Paladin Zist here you 
have somebody swapping, gearing 

697
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,040
up their Marksmanship Hunter 
because marksmanship was 

698
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,800
required for the first couple of
weeks. 

699
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,440
You would definitely bring them 
in for early bosses as you 

700
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,520
killed them, but you're not 
going to run a whole second raid

701
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,400
for that is what I'm saying. 
OK, so you sub. 

702
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,680
So you would sub out somebody 
and still keep it at the let's 

703
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,120
say 15 is the magic number. 
You still keep it at whatever 

704
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,240
magic number, but well. 
No, if it's flex, you're going 

705
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,960
to go up to 25. 
If it's flex rating, you're 

706
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,360
going to push to 25 no matter 
what. 

707
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,360
I you know, I was using this. 
Here's an example. 20 being the 

708
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,160
hard cap. 
If you have flex rating, you're 

709
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,920
going to if you have flex 
rating. 

710
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,960
Everything on farm you push to 
25 to get as much loot from 

711
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,800
those as possible. 
Yeah, yeah, whatever your Max 

712
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,760
roster is. 
And if you don't have 25, you 

713
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,400
bring in, you know, you probably
bring in friends or your best 

714
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,520
social players or whatever to 
get to. 

715
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,280
It's yeah, you definitely run at
25. 

716
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,840
The only time you would not run 
25 is if your Guild just 

717
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,280
literally didn't have access, 
and then you would run whatever 

718
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,280
Max you had access to. 
OK, Yeah, I, I don't, I, I'm 

719
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,840
really confused because I 
thought you were saying that you

720
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,520
would go and kill the bot, clear
the raid up to whatever you're 

721
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:57,240
progging on, and then come back 
in and do it again for an alt if

722
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,640
there was no Lockwood. 
It's what I thought you were 

723
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,240
saying. 
So if that's not what you were 

724
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,640
saying, I applaud and none of 
this conversation matters. 

725
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,680
But that's what I thought you 
were saying. 

726
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,920
And that is not going to happen.
That that scenario. 

727
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,000
That's why I said you would pug 
it. 

728
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,440
You would just go and pug it 
yourself. 

729
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,720
No, you would bring in the like 
the I don't want to call them 

730
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:16,480
carries. 
They're the less optimal people.

731
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,240
You would bring in as additional
people to the farm bosses so 

732
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:24,200
that you they would be geared 
for the boss that you want to 

733
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,240
kill them on. 
And the only the Prague boss you

734
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,800
would have the ideal number. 
Everything that you have on 

735
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,800
farm, you would just stuff to 
the stuff, the roster as full as

736
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,080
possible to get as much gear as 
possible to further your Prague.

737
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:45,080
Yeah, that's, I mean that's. 
I guess if you use the flex. 

738
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,720
No, that's I mean, that's 
literally how mythic rating 

739
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,680
works Now today, in this moment,
whatever boss you're progging 

740
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,000
next, you are using your farm 
time as you get back to that 

741
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,840
boss, to Prague to make sure the
characters that you're using for

742
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,480
Prague have the best chance at 
the gear that they need. 

743
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,000
So like that's that's literally 
mythic rating today and for the 

744
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,600
last have since back to shadow 
lands, I guess, and probably 

745
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,400
before since I've been playing. 
That's just how I'm at the 

746
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,560
grating. 
I am super confused That's. 

747
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,160
But you don't. 
Like that's nothing new. 

748
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,680
But like you have those 
characters that you wouldn't 

749
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:27,520
like, let's say boss 2, right, 
requires that you bring DKS, but

750
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,560
you're not going to use DKS in 
the future bosses, right? 

751
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,400
So you have the you have the DKS
for that. 

752
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,480
They get benched, benched for 
later, but usually those are 

753
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:41,800
taking up slots, right? 
And so you would you, you need 2

754
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,200
DKS out of the 20. 
So 18 of the slots are like what

755
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,680
were you what we're gearing 2 of
them are the mandatory to get 

756
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,760
through this fight now because 
you can go up to 25. 

757
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,720
You're not actually losing those
22 slots. 

758
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,160
You're actually just going like,
OK, we'll have 25 people geared,

759
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,160
2 of the slots will be there. 
But on the Prague fight, we're 

760
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,760
not going to put 25 people in. 
We're only going to put in the 

761
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,680
like 15 that we need or whatever
magic number it is, right? 

762
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,120
Only the Prague boss. 
You would go for the magic 

763
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,040
number. 
Everything that's on farm, you 

764
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,480
would stuff the roster as full 
as possible. 

765
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,520
I don't, I mean, I don't. 
So where is the world first 

766
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,600
teams I suspect would maybe try 
to find what is the easiest 

767
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,440
number to kill this boss And but
even then, I don't think they 

768
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,280
would. 
I'm I, I'm fairly certain that 

769
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,000
if we get flex rating because 
teams right now you need 20 

770
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,920
right now, teams right now run 
like 24 ish that #24 ish, you 

771
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,080
know, 23 to 27 that range. 
They run that. 

772
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,720
Now, if you gave us flex like 
last night, everybody put 25 

773
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,200
people who had 25 on the roster 
into spore fall. 

774
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,240
There was no like, hey, it dies 
better at 15. 

775
00:44:56,240 --> 00:45:01,400
So 10 of you were sitting if 
your raid cap goes to 25, you're

776
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:05,520
and you have 25 on your roster, 
you're putting 25 in that fight.

777
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Like there's no boss. 
Yeah, yeah, definitely 100%. 

778
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,040
Hey, it's an extra piece of 
loot. 

779
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,960
But B, why would you have people
on your roster that you don't 

780
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:22,680
think are capable of frog? 
It's I feel like that's a jump. 

781
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Like, why are they there if 
they're not? 

782
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,320
If they're not good enough to 
Prague, why would you have them 

783
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,920
on the roster? 
I I would think that there are 

784
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,440
like there are points where it's
like when you're doing the 

785
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,360
flexibility. 
I don't think, Manny, I don't 

786
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,960
think you're going to like the 
comments we get on this. 

787
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,040
Episode this is going to be fun.
This is going to be fun. 

788
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,840
I I think that when they 
introduced the flexible rating 

789
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,480
right, there were particular 
break points where you wouldn't 

790
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,720
get a third iteration of the 
mechanic, or the shield would be

791
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,120
small enough, or you could cut 
it, or you wouldn't need a an 

792
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,720
extra healer or whatever. 
Whatever it is, it allowed the 

793
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:13,120
fight to be tackled easier. 
Right. 

794
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,200
In the pug world, that happens, 
you know? 

795
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Hey, 20 is our sweet spot. 
You're only bringing 20 in the 

796
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,800
pug, but a Guild is entirely 
different. 

797
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,560
If if you're in a heroic Guild 
that could take up to 30 people 

798
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,000
and has 30 people on the roster 
and is benching people because 

799
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,720
they think 25 is better or 20 is
easier, leave your Guild 'cause 

800
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:36,080
that's a shitty Guild. 
You kill the boss as a team. 

801
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,840
You don't kill the boss with 10 
people sitting on the sideline 

802
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,760
because somebody decided they 
weren't as good. 

803
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,200
That's it's not. 
Again, like you're you're you're

804
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,880
jumping to they're not as good. 
And what I'm trying to what I'm 

805
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,540
trying to say is that as a 
whole, the fight is quote UN 

806
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:55,720
quote easier. 
It's not like anybody could sit,

807
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,240
draw straws, whatever. 
We just don't have to deal with 

808
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,440
this, this third one. 
And because we don't have to 

809
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,720
deal with this additional 
hurdle, we can kill this quote 

810
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:10,000
UN quote wall boss easier and 
get to future bosses, right? 

811
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:15,680
And I think that even though 
you're right as a team, you can 

812
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,280
do this and you can put in put 
in the effort and you will get 

813
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:26,280
this down in the terms of a race
where that much, that much 

814
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,240
competition and time is is 
there. 

815
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,880
If you could say, OK, let's go 
down to X amount of people, 

816
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,960
secure this win, get ourselves 
on the Hall of Fame or whatever 

817
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:42,560
thing and get to the next boss 
which doesn't have this wall, 

818
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,440
right. 
I believe that teams will feel 

819
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,160
pressure to do so. 
And it's a similar kind of 

820
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,680
pressure as well. 
We could do this without the 

821
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,040
week or, or we could just do 
this week or it's like, yeah, 

822
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,640
why? 
Why wouldn't you, right? 

823
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,520
There's going to be like a we're
kind of screwing ourselves if we

824
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,880
don't do it. 
And if we don't do it, the 

825
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,760
competition might do it and 
therefore we're going to we're 

826
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,840
just disadvantaging ourselves. 
Even though our team can do it. 

827
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,680
Echo was able to do it. 
They didn't do it faster than 

828
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,520
Liquid and that came with 
whatever consequences that they 

829
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,200
want to say method and do it. 
They weren't able to do it as 

830
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,840
fast as the other two teams. 
And so there was a consequence 

831
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,280
along with that, right. 
Like I feel that there is a 

832
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,240
difference between saying that 
like it's easier and why 

833
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:42,640
wouldn't we make it easier and 
the assumption that like, oh, 

834
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,760
we're benching you because 
you're bad. 

835
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,960
It's like, no, no, no, you're 
not on this team because you're 

836
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,040
bad. 
People in World first teams are 

837
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:57,200
by no objective standard bad 
players, but I I would think 

838
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,080
that. 
I, I need to be I, I don't give 

839
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,320
too sweet fucks what the racer 
world first does. 

840
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,080
They're ultimate like they are 
ultra degenerate. 

841
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,800
They are not indicative of the 
rest of the player base. 

842
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,960
So if they're doing that, if the
top ten are like, that's fine 

843
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,080
that I. 
I think it'll happen in in many 

844
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,440
different break points. 
I think if that happens in your 

845
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,440
Guild, it's a horrible Guild and
it's a toxic Guild and you 

846
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,320
should leave it and. 
I think I I can let that 

847
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,960
statement stand, yeah. 
That's, I think if a Guild is 

848
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,160
doing that, if you're in a Guild
that has the, you know, if 

849
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,240
you're getting benched, because 
it's going to be slightly easier

850
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:33,480
to do 20 people than it is to do
25, leave that Guild. 

851
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,960
Leave it because that's, that's 
yeah, that's awful. 

852
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,440
And it's I, I say the same for 
heroic as well. 

853
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:46,200
When I, when I joined Facer 
Forged in EUI was raiding with 

854
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,440
them a couple of years ago when 
I, when I joined and agreed to 

855
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,560
help, they were discussing 
benching people to get a kill on

856
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,360
Anserek in Nurbar Palace. 
They were like, hey, we, we're 

857
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,040
close to a kill. 
We think we want to bench these 

858
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,160
three people and then be good to
go. 

859
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,560
And I told them in no uncertain 
terms that I would not play if 

860
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,400
they benched people. 
It's you can't in this, this was

861
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,040
that guild's case, but you can't
ask people to not pug ahead of 

862
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,720
the Guild, especially if you're 
in LTC Guild. 

863
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,440
If you can't ask your Raiders, 
don't pug ahead because we get 

864
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,360
kills together as a team and 
then tell X number of players we

865
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,560
get kills together as a team 
except for you that's insane. 

866
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,720
If you're in a heroic Guild, 
everybody should be in for those

867
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,080
kills if they're if they're 
there and physically able to 

868
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,920
play, everybody should be in for
those kills. 

869
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,960
Otherwise, why do you have these
people in the roster? 

870
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,720
That's I anyway, we and they 
didn't, we didn't bench anybody 

871
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:42,560
that killed it the next week. 
And the the it's funny because 

872
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,960
the no, I'm not going to talk 
about it. 

873
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560
We killed it the next week and 
now that's a like a standing 

874
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,840
thing for them. 
Like they do heroic. 

875
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,720
They don't bench anybody. 
They run whatever their 

876
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:51,960
ostracize is. 
That's what they run. 

877
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,720
It's yeah, especially at the 
heroic level. 

878
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,960
There is no reason to do that. 
If your Guild thinks we need to 

879
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:02,880
sit people because it's easier 
to kill this at 20 than it is at

880
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,200
22, leave that Guild. 
Leave it, find a new one because

881
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,520
that's bad leadership. 
Sorry. 

882
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,680
That's and I know what happens 
in heroic deals because they 

883
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,520
people, they think, they always 
think the problem is somebody 

884
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,520
holding them back. 
Oh, we would kill this if it 

885
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,840
wasn't for Pone God X, which I 
realized is a character that now

886
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,520
has. 
And all of this time I've been 

887
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,120
using Pone God X as my example, 
but it's a real character that's

888
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,000
not. 
Black managerial baby. 

889
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,160
Yeah, anyway, I would love flex 
rating. 

890
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,080
I think you should unlock after 
Hall of Fame. 

891
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,960
I don't think I think Hall of 
Fame should be hard locked at 

892
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,600
20. 
I think once Hall of Fame ends, 

893
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,080
they should open flex rating for
the raid. 

894
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,000
That's my stance on that because
I just think it's good. 

895
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,720
And this I I even if they don't 
unlock flex rating, if flex 

896
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:57,280
rating never gets unlocked like 
that, give us this lockout, give

897
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,440
us this mythic lockout system, 
because it's just so much better

898
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,920
for pugs. 
Now you're not screwed if you 

899
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,400
join a pug. 
You kill the first boss and then

900
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,840
everybody leaves. 
Now you can't even fight the 

901
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,040
second boss. 
It's just this system is great. 

902
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:15,280
I hope it's a test bed for that.
Yeah, All right, let's move on. 

903
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,160
Omnium, Omnium Folio. 
Omnium Folio came out. 

904
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,480
They buffed some of the nodes. 
The healing nodes got a buff. 

905
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,280
It's currently doing. 
If you've unlocked it, it's 

906
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,600
account wide. 
That's a nice win. 

907
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,680
You don't have to do the quest 
chain or even do like, hey, I 

908
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,480
did this. 
Skip it. 

909
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,080
It's just unlocked for your 
party. 

910
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,680
The quest chain was fun. 
There was some issues because 

911
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,440
everybody was trying to tag 
certain mobs at the same time 

912
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,040
and there was tag limits being 
hit it we have to give Blizzard 

913
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,440
some leeway. 
This is the first time they've 

914
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,840
released a patch where there was
issues with mobs being farmed 

915
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,880
and tagged by multiple people. 
So we're going to give them some

916
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,360
leeway and expect that to get 
fixed. 

917
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:58,720
They did post that they would 
fix it that they the post was 

918
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,560
thanks for the report reports 
there is a fix on the way for 

919
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,960
the tagging issue. 
So good for them. 

920
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,440
So you know one of those first 
time problems that they haven't 

921
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,840
encountered before. 
So but the on the info that came

922
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:14,760
out, it's it's doing about .25 
to .3% of your damage now and 

923
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,480
that should ramp up to somewhere
in the .6 range. 

924
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,920
If nothing happens between now 
and the last node being 

925
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,600
unlocked. 
I'm pretty comfortable saying 

926
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,120
that this set of buffs will not 
be the final set of buffs we 

927
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:34,000
see. 
I am willing to agree with you. 

928
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:41,400
I think that it's funny that 
they had to do 40% buffs to the 

929
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,960
healing and still it is like 
it's a very hard place to be 

930
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,720
because you want the tuning to 
be good. 

931
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:55,960
You want them to be able to be 
significant, but you also don't 

932
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:02,800
want the damage and healing 
numbers to be so high so as to 

933
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,040
like suddenly become spike 
damage that we, that we were 

934
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,320
complaining about back in like 
Dragonfly and such. 

935
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:14,480
So what do they do? 
Like buff all the stamina, buff 

936
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,000
the DPS into healing. 
So it just equates a basically 

937
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,600
just a flat sort of thing, 
except everything else that 

938
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,480
hasn't been bounced against. 
This is just easier. 

939
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,760
I don't know. 
It's a, it's a strange thing 

940
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:32,800
that they have to balance and I 
I feel for the designers and the

941
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,880
dev team that has to work 
through this. 

942
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:41,760
But as the prophecy first told, 
buffs soon and then nerfs later.

943
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,920
I actually think that I will 
probably not see the nerfs 

944
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,160
because it'll go out while we're
levelling. 

945
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,960
So there's no real reason to do 
anything other than when you hit

946
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,800
91 you'll feel suddenly a way 
weaker. 

947
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,360
Well no, we won't be levelling 
again till last Titan. 

948
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,760
This will be gone by then. 
This is just midnight. 

949
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,440
That's. 
What I suspect it'll be as you, 

950
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:10,840
instead of it being turned off, 
it'll just say at 90, at above 

951
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,280
level 90, you're no longer 
affected by this. 

952
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,000
So you'll be doing your level, 
you'll hit 91, and then suddenly

953
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,960
you'll be like oh God, 
everything hurts again. 

954
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:24,640
Yeah, what happened? 
Why did my gear go Omni folio? 

955
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,880
The question was fine, I like 
Rawith and I'm Brick so more of 

956
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,400
them is good. 
We'll see how I feel on week 4 

957
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,360
of having to go do a task for 
these guys who are the most 

958
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,280
powerful magisters in the world 
and who seem to be drip feeding 

959
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,320
me access to this tool that they
want me to use to save their 

960
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,520
city. 
Whoa, You have to get through 

961
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,360
the puzzle. 
That crazy, crazy puzzle. 

962
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,200
Which? 
No, just. 

963
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,520
Just click. 
Yeah, just click solve it for 

964
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,480
me. 
I did 1 and I was like OK I've 

965
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:59,520
seen these do it for me 
openworld content Manny fast I 

966
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:06,680
want it yeah. 
Speaking of buffs and debuffs, 

967
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,880
there was some bugs. 12 point 
0.7 didn't launch cleanly. 

968
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,640
Now it wasn't anything like 12 
point 0.5, probably because half

969
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,240
the content hasn't launched yet,
but there was some issues with 

970
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:22,440
the cooldown. 
Manager stopped tracking certain

971
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,320
buffs and debuffs for friendly 
players and any player name 

972
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,560
plates, and they are working on 
a fix for that. 

973
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,400
But on top of that, the friend 
list is now randomizer. 

974
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,840
It no longer listed 
alphabetically, it randomly 

975
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,440
changes the positioning of 
people on the list and your 

976
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,880
favourites have been removed. 
So. 

977
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,040
I don't know. 
I am telling myself that that is

978
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,000
happening because they're 
getting ready for cross region, 

979
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,240
that they did something to the 
friends list because they're 

980
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:50,400
getting ready to set up cross 
region. 

981
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,880
That's how I'm getting through 
that. 

982
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,400
But I got. 
An excellent piece of copium. 

983
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,800
That is isn't it though? 
Those are the only two like bugs

984
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,760
that I think people came across 
that I even that I noticed and I

985
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,240
haven't even. 
Other than the friends list 

986
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:07,240
thing being a mild annoyance, I 
didn't really notice them. 

987
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,920
I think the friends list thing 
was horrible. 

988
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,440
I was trying to reach out to you
and there was an entire thing in

989
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,200
the fast discord. 
About my phone number. 

990
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,320
I was just like, I was writing 
each other to you and the 

991
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,240
friends list was gone and I'm 
like, which? 

992
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Which character is Shawn on? 
It's like, oh Riddle me this, 

993
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,760
it's a special character from a 
game from the show, blah blah. 

994
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,960
Blah, you have my phone number 
and not less than two discord 

995
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:42,840
DMS with me. 
I got to be honest. 

996
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,360
Oh like other than I'm going to 
say this may be a bull 

997
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:52,400
statement, but I think the 
launch of 12 point 0.7 and the 

998
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,440
portion of its content that 
launched with it, I think it 

999
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,080
was, was pretty good compared to
12 point 0.5. 

1000
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,160
Now we didn't get trimming the 
time waves, we didn't get the 

1001
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,600
campaign quests. 
I can't remember what else is 

1002
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,960
supposed to be in there that we 
didn't get yet. 

1003
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,200
But those two things are the big
ones. 

1004
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,040
But lower lower walking 10 out 
of 10 amazing. 

1005
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,880
The new zone, while it's boring 
as pissed not buggy so. 

1006
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,760
Next week, it's the other one. 
Next week get the other one and 

1007
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:26,200
then I guess the the new tier 6 
ritual sites came out for people

1008
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,560
who didn't get enough ritual 
sites 12 point O .5 but I've not

1009
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,680
heard of any issues with that. 
So other than and actually 

1010
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,960
knowing now that you were unable
to reach me because of the 

1011
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,520
friends list bug, I think that's
a feature. 

1012
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,800
So. 
I just, I, I just wanted to type

1013
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,840
in skip in the in the like 
quest. 

1014
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,640
Oh, let me buy a Val. 
Can't buy a Val. 

1015
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,920
So yeah, I mean, All in all, I 
think the launch was was decent 

1016
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,280
for this this patch. 
So kudos to Blizzard for that. 

1017
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,160
They said, you know, 12 point 
0.5 wasn't acceptable. 

1018
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,600
We're going to do better and 
they did better. 

1019
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,640
So I think anyway, have you 
noticed any issues? 

1020
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:15,560
I would say not came up earlier 
than expected by like several 

1021
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,360
hours pretty smooth pretty 
smooth. 

1022
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,720
I did obviously see the friends 
bug as we've been laughed about 

1023
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,960
here, but that was the only one 
that I really encountered. 

1024
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,080
The 12 point O 5 was like such a
mess, such an absolute mess. 

1025
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:34,240
So hey, and I got to enjoy a 
little bit of the Easter eggs 

1026
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,800
that weren't really in the patch
notes. 

1027
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,760
There's like this entire soccer 
thing that you get to do where 

1028
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,880
you can like get your tabard of 
like corridor alliance, kick the

1029
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,760
ball around and then get the 
core for that. 

1030
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,400
I actually put in some lights 
around my garden and I was happy

1031
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,280
about that. 
So I like actually went back to 

1032
00:59:54,280 --> 01:00:00,160
my house, which is I felt good 
that he go back and be like, Oh 

1033
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,360
yeah, let me just. 
Now I can put these torches down

1034
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,600
and that sort of stuff made me 
think that like, oh, I want to 

1035
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,640
do more with the housing, but 
that's that feeling's not going 

1036
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,160
to last. 
It's not going to survive the 

1037
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,240
like, oh, content that actually 
pushes me, but I'm happy it's 

1038
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,360
there. 
Yeah, poor housing. 

1039
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,600
I like those tabards. 
I wish they didn't have the 

1040
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,280
World Cup trophy on the back 
because the front of the tabard 

1041
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,880
is beautiful and I would 
definitely use it. 

1042
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,840
Hey, you just had barking. 
My dog was just somewhere 

1043
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,360
barking. 
I don't know what room of the 

1044
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,760
house she was in or what was 
going on, but it was happening, 

1045
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,760
man. 
We got one more piece, one more 

1046
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,200
piece of news before we say 
thanks to some amazing folks. 

1047
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,720
And then I have a question for 
you, the Mount Collector, on 

1048
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,160
your thoughts on something. 
But last piece of news, we had 

1049
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,840
more Lura nerves. 
There's quite a few here. 

1050
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,080
I'm going to read through them 
quickly, so if you're still 

1051
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,840
frogging Laura, this is all good
news. 

1052
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,800
So Glimmering damage reduced by 
20% on Mythic difficulty. 

1053
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,440
Reduce the spread of Midnight 
Crystals and Dust Crystals so at

1054
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,880
further reducing the need for 
multiple decays * Splinter, 

1055
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,080
which is the intermission 
ability, can no longer target a 

1056
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,800
player twice at the same time. 
We've actually seen three at 

1057
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,000
once, which was wild, on a seed 
holder no less, and did not 

1058
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,080
wipe. 
Special shout out to Dottie Lou,

1059
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,240
she's an incredible player at 
this game. 

1060
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,520
Critical criticality, which is 
the circles in Phase 2 cast time

1061
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,080
is increased to 4 seconds was 
3/1 of the more common causes 

1062
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,040
for wipes is your seed carriers.
They drop the seeds in the 

1063
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,240
middle and then everybody 
spreads for criticality. 

1064
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,720
One of the more common reasons 
for wipes is a seed carrier 

1065
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,640
dropping late or dropping and 
picking one up and having to run

1066
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,120
back in, so that should help 
with that. 

1067
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,440
Dawn Crystals now begin pulsing 
radiance after 6 seconds. 

1068
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,240
On Heroic and Mythic 
difficulties it was 5 seconds. 

1069
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,120
So this is when you set your 
crystal down. 

1070
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,880
You have longer to pick it back 
up, which because of a note 

1071
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:57,480
coming up later will really only
be a factor in P2 and I guess 

1072
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,320
intermission and then dark 
constellation cast time. 

1073
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,080
This is the P3 stars connecting 
is increased to three seconds. 

1074
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,080
Was 2.5, which I think will 
actually have a weird push on 

1075
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,800
effect because you use when 
you're doing the matching game 

1076
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,080
in P3. 
The second set of constellations

1077
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,480
is your mark of like hey, you 
have to have it done before this

1078
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,160
or you die. 
Shifting these to be longer 

1079
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,840
actually makes that a tighter 
check. 

1080
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,680
And the radiance damage reduced 
by 50% on heroic difficulty 

1081
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,240
only. 
And the tears of Lura. 

1082
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,320
This is if your crystal carrier 
gets hit by a by cosmic damage. 

1083
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,720
Now is only one soak on heroic, 
it used to be two. 

1084
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,240
Still 2A Mythic, and this is the
big one. 

1085
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,120
Resonance no longer triggers 
Tears of Lura. 

1086
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,120
So resonance is when Lura does 
the Dirge of Despair, puts the 

1087
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,160
symbols out, and then the beam 
goes by and hits people. 

1088
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,280
When you get hit by that beam, 
it causes resonance. 

1089
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,360
So in Mythic you have to drop 
your crystal, get in that beam, 

1090
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,680
and then pick your crystal back 
up. 

1091
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,640
This is a huge cause of wipes in
P1 for a lot of teams. 

1092
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,200
We're talking there are teams 
that like 500 plus poles. 

1093
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,440
For this boss, we actually did 
quite well. 

1094
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,160
We were only 284 but there are 
teams that are like 500 plus 

1095
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,920
poles and it's mostly P1 and the
glaze are the biggest issue. 

1096
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,000
And one of the things that was 
happening is people would drop 

1097
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,880
their crystal to go in for their
dirge of despair to get hit by 

1098
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,320
the beam and then a glaze would 
hit their crystal and wipe the 

1099
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:28,360
rig Now or they would have to 
decide I hold my crystal, I get 

1100
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,880
hit by the beam and then it 
spawns 2 soaks and then you miss

1101
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,720
the soaks. 
You shouldn't miss it. 

1102
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,720
Soaks are pretty easy but people
were missing soaks so those are 

1103
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,680
the biggest causes. 
But now in P1 once you pick up a

1104
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,840
crystal you you don't put it 
down until intermission when 

1105
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,360
you're dodging your * splinters,
which are now easier because you

1106
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,000
can't get 2 at a time. 
Huge nerf for P1. 

1107
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,640
Huge nerf. 
Great for teams that are 

1108
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,320
progging Lura right now because 
it makes it much easier than it 

1109
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,520
was before this nerf. 
And for those of us going in for

1110
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,800
re kills should make re kills 
easier as well. 

1111
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,760
How many more times do you think
we're going to see tuning to 

1112
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,360
Lura before the end of the tier 
in eight weeks? 

1113
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,360
I don't know, I would say that 
if they want to nerf it another 

1114
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,160
two times, so be it. 
Like it just wow, the nerfs just

1115
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,440
keep coming. 
I don't know what the final form

1116
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,600
will be. 
I could I could see them. 

1117
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,680
Yeah, I I'm going to say 2 would
be fine. 

1118
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:35,600
I think that it it's good to 
keep pushing it up until people 

1119
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,680
can no longer qualify to get 
their CE or their AOTC. 

1120
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,440
So go ahead more to merrier. 
Keep going. 

1121
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:51,840
Every week feels like a lot even
like even like I just feel like 

1122
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:59,120
developer time will move on to 
new content as we're putting out

1123
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,800
the new raid. 
Like once we get the new raid 

1124
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,480
testing in that I almost feel 
like it just goes kind of quiet 

1125
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,400
on on the current bosses, but 
it's still time to do like 2-3 

1126
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,240
more sweeps along this these 
bosses. 

1127
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,360
Manny, is there anything you'd 
like to say to the patrons this 

1128
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,360
week? 
I mean, I would love to give a 

1129
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,240
big, big thank you to our 
patrons. 

1130
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,240
I know that we haven't been 
talking about the Patreon for a 

1131
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,360
bit and we just started talking 
about it and the a lot of 

1132
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,720
support and the constant support
that you guys have been giving 

1133
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,960
us is really appreciated. 
For Ezraf will always be free, 

1134
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,680
but if you like what we do, 
consider becoming a patron. 

1135
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,040
There is even a free tier. 
So this week we have 3 new 

1136
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,600
patrons we have at the uncommon 
rank. 

1137
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,080
Steve C, Thank you for your 
support. 

1138
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:02,320
At our rare rank we have RAC and
at the Epic level we have 

1139
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,600
servers Snoop. 
So thank you all for your 

1140
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:12,400
patronage. 
Now, what is our last topic, 

1141
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,840
Sean? 
There's a special amount coming 

1142
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,560
to China. 
It's an adorable panda. 

1143
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,920
It's region locked, but Pyvex 
did put a post note that today. 

1144
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,080
Will you see this? 
We're going to use the traders 

1145
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,320
post to bring mounts that are 
special to a promotion or to a 

1146
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,920
region to other regions, 
eventually opening up to all of 

1147
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,240
them. 
I want to know, as a mount 

1148
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,720
collector, how does it feel 
knowing that you're out here 

1149
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,240
collecting these hideous bugs 
just to make the number go up by

1150
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,560
1:00, but you can't get this 
beautiful, adorable panda? 

1151
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:53,160
You know, on most days I would 
be super thrilled to see this 

1152
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:59,960
panda come into the trader's 
post, but I'm also a little 

1153
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:02,560
weirded out because earlier you 
had said that you really like 

1154
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,680
pandas and it wasn't Lily, and 
now I'm worried. 

1155
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:13,120
I'm attracted to the mount. 
No, I think that it's great like

1156
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:19,840
we have seen them do the Alec in
Germany and then bring that out 

1157
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:25,320
to a larger community through 
like giveaways, through contact 

1158
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,280
features much like us and other 
people. 

1159
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:32,840
We have seen them do particular,
particular things and then put 

1160
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,320
it into the traders post. 
And I love that they are doing 

1161
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,480
that. 
I think that they don't always 

1162
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,040
have to go into the traders 
post. 

1163
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:46,040
I think that you could 
eventually do a event that is in

1164
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,040
other regions and and have that 
come out in in that way. 

1165
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:56,760
I guess it takes less effort to 
put it through the traders post.

1166
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,320
The traders post, I guess is the
path of least resistance, but 

1167
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,080
generally just being able to get
all of those into the game in 

1168
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:12,000
all regions is a great way of 
fighting a bit of the FOMO. 

1169
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,480
I know that there will be people
be like, yeah, but I want to use

1170
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,640
my my tenders for this and for 
that. 

1171
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,640
And now it's an additional thing
that I want. 

1172
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,640
It's always going to be the 
struggle, which is also part of 

1173
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,439
reason that I'm like, yeah, 
don't always put into traders 

1174
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,200
post. 
Feel free to like throw it on a 

1175
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,960
vendor for some gold or have it 
be like a little Twitch 

1176
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,439
giveaway. 
I have seen a lot of people who 

1177
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:41,520
are getting tired of the 
plushies, so you know, go ahead 

1178
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,279
Blizzard, put it into other 
offers. 

1179
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,120
I want my panda mount give it to
me now. 

1180
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,399
In other news, I'm re rolling to
China realms. 

1181
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,160
How do you get through the Great
Firewall though? 

1182
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,080
I sign up like Matt Damon did in
that movie. 

1183
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,520
Actually, I actually really like
that movie. 

1184
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,880
By the way, have you seen The 
Great Wall? 

1185
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,720
Matt Damon and I think it's 
Pedro Pascua. 

1186
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,840
Oh wow, I would love to see a 
movie with those two and I don't

1187
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,600
I don't know about this movie. 
And Willem Dafoe. 

1188
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,359
Willem Dafoe is. 
I'm I'm in bivolous on the 

1189
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:20,920
Dafoe. 
I think, I think it's Pedro Pesc

1190
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,920
and now I can't remember man. 
I'm, I'm going to get that wrong

1191
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,520
and people are going to be like 
bro. 

1192
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,279
How did you? 
What's the one where it's Pedro 

1193
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:32,560
Pascal driving the? 
Pascal. 

1194
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,520
He nailed it. 
OK, what's the? 

1195
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,399
One anyway. 
Oh, that's with Nick Cage. 

1196
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,880
That's I don't know what that 
was called. 

1197
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,399
He does that weird smile. 
Yeah. 

1198
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:41,960
Yeah. 
I don't know what that was 

1199
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,040
called, but check out. 
I actually. 

1200
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,560
So the Great Wall critics hated 
it, but I really enjoyed it. the

1201
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,880
IT turns out the Great Wall of 
China was built to keep these 

1202
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,640
monsters from running over the 
city. 

1203
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,240
They spawn every X number of 
years and they train people to 

1204
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,080
protect the wall. 
It is a beautiful, glorious 

1205
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,680
visual treat. 
I definitely recommend The Great

1206
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,000
Wall. 
If you haven't seen it, you 

1207
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,320
should watch it. 
It's a fun. 

1208
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,880
It's not like a deep thriller or
deep thinker. 

1209
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:12,000
It's just a fun movie with a 
nice fantasy setting. 

1210
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,200
It's very cool. 
OK this this is like fantasy 

1211
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,600
version of what the hell was the
one with the Kaiju? 

1212
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,040
Pacific Rim. 
Pacific Rim, it's give me 

1213
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,440
Pacific Rim sort of feel, but. 
Thanks. 

1214
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,840
Maybe I don't think you're going
to get Pacific Rim feels if you 

1215
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,520
watch, but it's very good. 
It is very good. 

1216
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,600
All right. 
Maybe that's the show, I think. 

1217
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,040
Until next time, may all your 
hits be grits.