1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,160 Hello and welcome to a very special episode of For Azeroth. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,360 I am one of your hosts, The True Van Manny, and today I am joined 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,920 by one of the Fazzers. And we're going with Fazzers 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,720 because that's what won the vote. 5 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:17,880 One of the community, an amazing Raider, an amazing friend and an 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,040 amazing part of the community. We have soup AKA Multial AKA 7 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:25,400 Takuzi. I forget what the other one was. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,880 How are you and how's the World Warcraft been cheating you? 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Hi Manny. Hi Fazzers. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,480 I'm great. Wow has been fantastic. 11 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:37,280 Midnight has been great. My Rave team is doing a great 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,600 job. We are currently battling the 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,840 roster boss, but we're we're doing fantastic other than that. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,520 Nice, nice. What are what are your thoughts 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,400 generally of rating? Cause like, obviously I've been 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,080 having my love hate relationship and the the current situation 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,520 that I'm dealing with. But like, have you been enjoying 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,080 rating? I've been enjoying it. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,160 We there's some really interesting fights going on, 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,120 we've got some new mechanics that we haven't seen before and 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,240 I feel like missing Mythic rating in general has been 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,840 really good to me so far. So yeah, I've been having a 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,200 really good time with it. That's great to hear. 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,280 And so I know Sean would consider you a real player 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,240 because you raid and everything, but you're also are a player 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,200 after my own heart that loves to chase after the mounts. 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,800 That is an advent. Sorry, an avid mount collector 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,640 and I guess I will ask some likely questions first. 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,640 So first of all, when did you get into mount collect? 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,760 Let's start there. So I got into mount collecting 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:52,840 in Burning Crusade right when you had to farm for Rep. 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,840 I think my real first farm was nether wing farming the eggs 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,200 'cause I got so tired of doing the dailies I just farmed the 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:07,400 eggs. It took me 36 hours to go from 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,800 honored to Exalted on one character. 36 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,160 So I got all of my eggs, and that's really where it started. 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,920 I just, I wanted all of the mounts. 38 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:18,840 I wanted all the different appearances. 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,200 I didn't care if they took up too many bag slots. 40 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,360 I needed them. Man, going all the way back to 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Burning Crusade. So you've been at this for a 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,560 while. When did you first start playing 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,960 again? I first started playing 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,480 seriously in Burning Crusade and my character that I play now is 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,880 actually the hunter that I played in Burning Crusade. 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,960 So she has been around a very long time. 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:50,840 But I my first character was a druid in vanilla and I got to 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,640 level 40. A friend gave me enough gold to 49 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:57,160 purchase my first mount and then I quit. 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,480 I was like, I'm not, I'm not doing this anymore. 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,560 That is awesome. So what drew you back to the 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,600 game then? The expansion came out and some 53 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,640 friends were playing it, so I decided just to get back into it 54 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:13,160 and I've been playing it ever since. 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,920 That is, that is amazing. And so you jumped on, you left 56 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:21,680 the druid behind, you jumped on a hunter. 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 You've done a number of different classes over the 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,920 years. I remember you like kicking butt 59 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:31,760 on Warlock and Hunter and that what what have been the classes 60 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,480 that you've stuck to most? I have the most played time on 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:42,800 my druid, but hunter is really where I'm at home here lately. 62 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:50,720 OK, and so of course you started farming the eggs to get those 63 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,240 nether wings. Here's a here's a question I'm 64 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,640 going to ask you to choose your darling. 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,800 What are your? What's your favorite mount that 66 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,760 comes to mind? So I actually, I have an answer 67 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,440 for this and it's it's about the mount, but it's about the 68 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,840 memory. My favorite mount of all time is 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,640 going to be the Swiss Zolian Tiger. 70 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,480 And I remember the first time I saw it, I was sitting in 71 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Stormwind, which is crazy because I have not played 72 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,680 Alliance in a very, very long time. 73 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,600 But I was sitting in the trade district in Stormwind. 74 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,480 And I saw somebody on this mount and I messaged them and I was 75 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,640 like, Oh my God, where did you get that? 76 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,160 That's amazing. And the answer I got back was 77 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,360 really rude. And I can't remember the exact 78 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,320 wording, but he basically told me that I needed to go do the 79 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,120 research myself. And I was like, OK, so I went 80 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,560 and I researched it and realized that that mount was a little far 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,800 out of my grasp at the moment, being as Zokerub was a 20 man 82 00:04:54,840 --> 00:05:00,800 raid at the time. But as time went on and it 83 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,760 turned to Wrath that you had the ability to go in there with a 84 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,360 couple people and farm it. I was on playing a druid at the 85 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:19,280 time, a balance druid, and I got enough feral gear to tank those 86 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,840 bosses that dropped mounts in that group with my husband at 87 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:29,280 the time that was ironically a hunter, and we got both of them 88 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:33,560 to drop and I won both of them and it was a rocky spot in our 89 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,000 marriage for a while that I got both of the mounts. 90 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,600 Oh no, I wish that was less common the story but I have 91 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,960 heard similar. Well, he does not play Wow 92 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 anymore and I still do, so I'm winning. 93 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:56,160 There you go, there you go. And so was it the, was it that 94 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,760 journey of like finally getting back to that mount that you'd 95 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,920 saw so many years ago and earning that mount that makes 96 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,840 that your favorite mount? It it really does that and it's 97 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,800 it's, I worked so hard for it. It was one of the first mounts 98 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,840 that I needed other people to help me get, and I felt like I 99 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:17,520 persevered and found a way to farm. 100 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,560 There were even sometimes where I could solo it by myself, 101 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,400 timing my interrupts and stuff like that. 102 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,800 As a player who didn't raid a whole lot at that point in time, 103 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,440 it was quite a feat for me to be able to solo that. 104 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:40,920 That is amazing. So then what makes for a good 105 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,600 mount hunt for you? Is it those ones that you like 106 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,520 work together as a team or like is there some other thing that 107 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,040 you're like, this is the my favorite way to get earn amount? 108 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,440 So for me, a good mount grind is one that feels obtainable 109 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,640 whether it's through grinding or dedication or luck. 110 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:08,600 One, that you don't have to rely too much on others because it's 111 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,160 not always easy to find people who align with your perspective 112 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,520 and your schedule to really get things done when you need to get 113 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,400 them done. It's one of the big reasons why 114 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,160 I think the 1% Mythic Plus mount is going to be one of the 115 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,040 hardest mounts to get because you have to rely on so many 116 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,840 other people and things just have to click consistently 117 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:40,400 'cause it's not like you can come back to the game two weeks 118 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,560 before the Mythic plus season ends and get that mount. 119 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,960 The bar is constantly moving, it's constantly getting harder. 120 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,480 So I just feel like a grind for me is 1 where I don't have to 121 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,160 feel like I have to rely on other people too much to get to 122 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,560 get that mount. The Vile Essences is is a really 123 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,240 good example. I just finished that mount and I 124 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,920 felt like that grind, while it was a grind and it felt like a 125 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,680 lot, you could do it solo and it was completely attainable or you 126 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,560 could do it in a group. So for the people at home who 127 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,840 might not know about the vile essence and the how many of 128 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,600 those you have to gather, give us a little bit of details about 129 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,200 this. How exactly do you do this grind 130 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,560 and what you get at the end of it? 131 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,000 So the vile essence grind it takes place in Zolomon. 132 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:43,080 There is a shrine esque place by Marcera caverns where there are 133 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,680 some elites and you have to kill those elites for a chance to get 134 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:50,520 them to drop vile essence. And you need 1000 vile essence 135 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,280 to open a chest that has a mount in it. 136 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:00,480 That mount is the Hexed Vile Feather Eagle. 137 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,000 And these are dropping like two or three at a time, 10 or 20 at 138 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,640 a time. What's What's this drop rate 139 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,920 look like? Oh, you're lucky if you get one 140 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,520 out of a pack of three. So it it takes a little bit, but 141 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:22,040 you know, it can be done solo and it can definitely be done in 142 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,920 a group of five. I would definitely do it now 143 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,600 that there are people doing it rather than doing it solo later. 144 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:38,480 It's going to it's going to feel like Deering gonna have to edit 145 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,600 this pause out. I'm sorry. 146 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,880 No, it's OK. I can't even remember the name 147 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,520 of the expansion. I think, well what what was the 148 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,680 grind like? Maybe I'll remember it based off 149 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,320 of like that. The black claws, do you remember 150 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,880 the black claws where you had to get 1000 black claws for amount 151 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,440 it was in. I want to say it was in. 152 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,520 No, I don't remember that one. Draynor. 153 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:14,240 Yeah, it was in Fangrella in Tannon Jungle. 154 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,680 OK, you get to get 1000 of those man. 155 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Yeah, and you had to get 1000 black claws for a bore mount. 156 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,480 I'm pretty sure I've done that because I think Warlords of 157 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Draynor is one of the expansions where I've got every mount out 158 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:41,120 of that except for except for the meta achievement one from 159 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,720 BlackRock Foundry where you have to like throw the oar from one 160 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,040 end to the other without the boss rolling over you that. 161 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,320 Was a good one, that was. A good one, yeah, that's the one 162 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,320 I wish I'd done in a group and not trying to solo. 163 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Yeah. OK, so then what's a horrible 164 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,320 mount farm? Can you think of an example of 165 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:11,200 that? There's not a lot of mount farms 166 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:19,320 that I would say are horrible and wow, other than maybe 167 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,560 Soundless. Soundless is terrible and I 168 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:27,520 still do not have him after years and years and years and 169 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:37,840 many many kill attempts. But I feel like that is one of 170 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,000 few that I would that I would say is just I I don't find to be 171 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,160 particularly fun. Yeah, I, I have to say that I 172 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:53,720 think Soundless is one of those mounts that caused me to rethink 173 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:59,240 the way that I hunt mounts down. For those at home that may not 174 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,880 know what Soundless is, Soundless was a mount in Battle 175 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,840 for Azeroth particularly. You would find Soundless as a 176 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,200 rare spawn in. Oh, what was the name of the 177 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,640 zone? Not Mechagon, but. 178 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,560 Oh. Man, I was about to say Baltra, 179 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:20,400 but it's not it. It's. 180 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Nashtar. Nashtar, thank you. 181 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,200 So there was a chance that it would spawn and it wasn't 182 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,080 frequent. It was very infrequent. 183 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,680 And then even if it did spawn, the chance of it dropping the 184 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:40,920 mount was also a very infinitesimal chance of getting 185 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,320 it. And so the way that I ended up 186 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,440 farming it because I have been blessed to get that mount is 187 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,960 that I put my effort into finding those groups. 188 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,320 That's that was like soundless up and so forth or searching for 189 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,800 soundless while it was current content and managed to get it 190 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,760 that way. Because now if you are to go 191 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:12,280 back there, you need to have characters in the zone. 192 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Hope that you find soundless when it spawns, which is not a 193 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,480 high chance. Hope that if it does spawn in 194 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,600 the Shard or version of the world that is up for you that 195 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,480 somebody else doesn't kill it. And what was the what was the 196 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,280 respawn like? I think it was once every 20 197 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,560 hours or something on the Shard. It was pretty bad. 198 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,520 I don't think we ever got actual data for respawn because it 199 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,000 could spawn in one to five different places, so it's pretty 200 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,640 easy to not catch the spawn even if he does respawn. 201 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,880 But it was pretty long. It was like 2024 hours, yeah. 202 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,360 And so now that people can easily one shot it, so you don't 203 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,280 even have the chance of like running around and catching 204 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,880 somebody in the middle of engaging it. 205 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,760 If there's anybody there, if you're on the right Shard, it 206 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:13,120 just, it feels like it's a lot harder to do today than it was 207 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:20,600 back in the correct patch of BFA, which is why I always we're 208 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,280 kind of backwards on mounts now. I try and do things in the 209 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:30,040 current patch expansion and then I'll go back to older ones. 210 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,240 Do you have a method to your madness for mount hunting? 211 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,760 I don't really have a method. I make sure I take breaks so I 212 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:45,680 don't get burnt out on one hunt. My current hunt is all of the 213 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,280 rares in the different zones. I have three out of eight, so 214 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:57,960 almost halfway there there. But then my other mount chase 215 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:03,520 that I'm doing is the the forge from Shadow Lands. 216 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,960 I'm still going back and making all of the mounts in Shadow 217 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,800 Lands and grinding out all of the different materials and 218 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,480 things like that, that you need all of the Genesis motes for 219 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,400 those different mounts. So I go back and forth. 220 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,160 OK. That's twice now that we've 221 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,720 looked at like 2 different types of mounts. 222 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,280 There has been the random chance, as we talked about with 223 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Soundless, as we were talking about with the current rare drop 224 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,200 mounts in each of the zones. And then there's the ones that 225 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,600 are more deterministic, where you're grinding to get whatever 226 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,600 currency or item that you would exchange for the mount. 227 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,440 Of the two, which one do you prefer? 228 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Or do you find that like variety is the spice of life, like you 229 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,000 would want both to exist? Definitely, variety is the spice 230 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,640 of life because when it comes to a 1% or lower drop chance, you 231 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,240 can go a very, very long time without saying amount. 232 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,680 However, if I'm working on amount that I have to grind 233 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,600 items and things out for, I know I'm going to eventually get that 234 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,680 amount and I can see something at the end. 235 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,720 So I'm definitely getting a payoff somewhere. 236 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,080 It's just keeping the numbers moving and keeping your 237 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,320 collection going as best as you can without getting burnt out 238 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,920 and saying, man, I hate mount collecting, this is not doing 239 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,760 anything for me, I'm going to stop. 240 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:34,200 OK, so then talking about the numbers, how many mounts you you 241 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,720 got under your belt there? I I currently as of recording 242 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:46,000 have 1217 mounts and I am currently realm 47th on thrall. 243 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,240 There you go. There you go. 244 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Which is fantastic. I I must admit that since having 245 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,600 ended the competition against shoe boots, I have not been 246 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,560 tracking how many mounts I have. But there are a number of 247 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,839 different sites that people can use. 248 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:10,160 So what sites do you use to like find info about the mounts or 249 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,800 track how many mounts that you have? 250 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,400 So I keep track of how many mounts that I have on Data for 251 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:22,079 azeroth.com. You can put in your realm and 252 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,119 character name and search. It will give you a breakdown of 253 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,240 everything you have as far as achievements, pets, mounts, all 254 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,280 of the completionist items, what you're lacking, what you already 255 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,240 have, and where you measure up against other people that have 256 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,000 also checked the site on Data for Azeroth. 257 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:48,600 As far as choosing which mounts to farm, I also use Simple 258 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:54,400 Armory which will give you a guide or a load out on which 259 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,080 which paths you should take to farm your raid mounts. 260 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Nice. OK. 261 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:09,400 So then do you have any white whales that you're that you're 262 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,640 currently hunting or that you've set aside so that you're you 263 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:20,400 maintain your sanity? I have one white whale and that 264 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,320 is the plagued proto Drake. Of course you can only get the 265 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,160 plagued proto Drake on the black market auction house. 266 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,440 Most of the time on higher pop realms it does go for gold cap. 267 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,960 Sometimes on lower pop realms you can find it for 4 to 5 268 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,600 million. However, I have a love hate 269 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,600 relationship with gold as I tend to spend it very frivolously. 270 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:48,560 So the plagued protodrake is definitely a white whale. 271 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,240 That will be mine one day, just not today. 272 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:59,120 I I consider that unobtainable, so you will go on the black 273 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:03,880 market auction house to pick up some of those mounts that are 274 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,880 otherwise unattainable. Well, I actually Manny, I 275 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,640 actually have all of the mounts off the black market auction 276 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,520 house already except for the plagued Protodrake, so it is 277 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,040 only the one I'm looking for. There you go. 278 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:24,360 So OK, so you will repeatedly and have repeatedly hit up that 279 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:27,040 black market auction house to get those mounts. 280 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,960 There has been the temporary sale that they had back in 281 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,080 Dragon Flight where they had some mounts that were 282 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,760 immediately purchasable or I think it was just one scare 283 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,320 about that was immediately purchable for a short period of 284 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,680 time and then it went on to the auction house. 285 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,640 I assume you have that one. Yes. 286 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:55,120 OK. And so then with the Plague 287 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:58,480 Drake being the last one on the black market auction house, what 288 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,880 have you been doing in terms of the traders post? 289 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,760 Have you been picking up every mount that's come off of that? 290 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,560 Have you forsaken like trans Mog and other things to make sure 291 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,280 that you have the gold for that? Like what's the sorry, not the 292 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,680 gold, but the traders tenders. What's your relationship with 293 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,840 the Traders post? I pick up every mount there is 294 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,400 off the traders post. I don't find myself for going 295 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,280 anything that I really want off the traders post. 296 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,840 I tend to hit my attendees cap every month and I find that it 297 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,240 sustains what I want. Granted, I'm kind of A1 trick 298 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,600 pony when it comes to playing Wow. 299 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,520 I don't level a lot of alts so I don't find myself wanting a lot 300 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:52,480 of different types of gear that are male or hunter related, so 301 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,240 I'm safe from a lot of transmog wanting. 302 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,440 OK. Also, if you have not checked 303 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:07,480 out this month's new mount, The Dusk Painted Sunrock, The Dusk 304 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,200 Painted Sunrock is really, really cool and it has a mount 305 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,640 animation and dismount this time so the mount actually flies 306 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,840 away. It's beautiful. 307 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Yeah, this is the first one that's that I'm aware of and I 308 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,360 think the first one ever, correct me if I'm wrong, to 309 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:29,200 actually have a dismount animation. 310 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,840 I believe so, yes. I it caught my eye as soon as I 311 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,960 was like, oh look, it has a mount animation that's great. 312 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:39,240 And then I got off of it and I was like, Oh my God, it's got a 313 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,000 dismount animation. It made me really excited. 314 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:50,920 So as a mount collector, are you somebody who loves numbers goes 315 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,480 up? Are you like me? 316 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,040 Where when they had focused on instead of just doing more and 317 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,880 more different mounts, they I mean, there's a lot of mounts of 318 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,960 dragon flights. I'm not saying that there 319 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,080 weren't a lot of mounts of dragon fights, but there was 320 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,840 also all these customizations for the Dragons and that has 321 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,800 continued on with the with delves and the discovery mount 322 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,600 that they'll be Trent. There'll be adjustments for 323 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,480 that. At least there were in the war 324 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,040 within as a rather in in. Yeah, in the war within. 325 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000 I'm I don't know why I was thinking midnight in the war 326 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,880 within. Anyways, within the war within 327 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,160 we also got every season amount that you could take to the 328 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,640 roster room that would also have different parts. 329 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,160 Are you into those parts as much as mounts, or do you find that 330 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,400 those don't really count? I it depends. 331 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,840 So the raid customizations that completely changed how your 332 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,240 Drake looks. I loved those. 333 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,960 The one that dropped off of Razgath. 334 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:05,720 Huge fan of the one that dropped off of the the IT looked like a 335 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,160 it looked like a pink Drake. I can't remember who it dropped 336 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,480 off of. Had plates on it like Deathwing. 337 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,360 Oh. Right from a from the burning 338 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,160 Crucible. Yes, really big fan of that. 339 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,120 Really big fan of that one. So those I absolutely love and 340 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,600 actually still use in my favorites rotation today. 341 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,520 Whereas the regular ones that just had the pieces that you 342 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,200 could piece together, they were really fun, but I don't get as 343 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,080 excited for those as I would a new mount. 344 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,400 Now, is that stopping me from farming the Delve appearances 345 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320 that I don't have still? No, I'm still doing that. 346 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,040 However, that's because those have a lot of flash and frill to 347 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,720 them. Like I didn't defeat Zekvir, you 348 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,880 know, on question mark, question mark, but you can still go back 349 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,960 and get that appearance. If you did not know in question 350 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,240 mark question mark Delve, it's just a drop chance and not 100% 351 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,800 drop chance. OK, Speaking of Dell drop 352 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,640 chances, there is a mount from this season's stealth boss 353 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,680 because it is not just a transformation, it's actually a 354 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,840 completely separate mount. Have you been hunting that or 355 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,240 did you try and get it as one of the first? 356 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,680 I think it was 4000 people. I wasn't one of the 1st 4000 357 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,520 people to get it, but I got it relatively quickly. 358 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,240 I was very impressed playing a hunter. 359 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:47,160 The delve bosses have kind of steamrolled your pets so it's 360 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,680 not super easy to go against those delve bosses when they're 361 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,200 crushing your pets health and you just have to re summon them 362 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,720 constantly. But I found that using Valera as 363 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,400 a healer, you really could heal your pets and they could stay up 364 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,400 and actually tank for you. So I was able to achieve that 365 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,960 pretty quickly this season. Hopefully they stay with those 366 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,680 changes for next season. Yeah, I mean Devil bots is have 367 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,360 been somewhat all over the place. 368 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:21,480 So previous positives may not hold, but previous negatives 369 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:28,160 also may not hold either. We will have to see if you could 370 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,160 ask for anything for for mounts just in general going in the 371 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,240 future, what would you want for mounts? 372 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:44,480 For mounts in general, as far as like models or for. 373 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,680 I mean like you're like, I want this to be a mount. 374 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,640 Like you could create your own mount or create a like general 375 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,160 idea for a mount and have that made. 376 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,480 What would you want for a mount? I want something outlandish. 377 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,320 I want like a flying chair or something like that, like the 378 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,880 Decor duel they gave us AB right? 379 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600 B is beautiful. It should have been a flying 380 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,200 chair. But there's there's a lot I want 381 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,840 to see with the mount system in general. 382 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,560 I don't feel like we should have to use mount journal enhance to 383 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,280 get a lot of the information that we get for mounts. 384 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,560 Mount Journal enhance, if you do not use that auto add on will 385 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,440 tell you the percentage of active accounts that have 386 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,600 amount, the amount of times you used, amount of the amount of 387 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,080 travel distance you've used that mount. 388 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,440 It will give you better the a better ability to farm mounts, 389 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,520 telling you where they're from and give you more information on 390 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,120 them. I would like to see more done 391 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:03,800 with the actual mount system. New mounts is great, but I I'd 392 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,800 like more done with the actual system. 393 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,880 OK. Well, I mean, that leads into my 394 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,680 next question about like what you would want systems for, for 395 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,920 the mounts. They've talked about having like 396 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,040 from the earliest days of Decor and player housing, they've 397 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,920 talked about having stables and such. 398 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,080 Is that something that like interests you or you just not 399 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,160 engaged in player housing? I'm not super engaged with 400 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840 player housing but I would use a mount stable. 401 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:42,440 I loved the stables in Was It. Battle for Astra Draynor. 402 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,800 Yes, in Draynor where you could go in your mounts would randomly 403 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,840 be roaming in your Garrison. I loved that part so I I would 404 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,440 love to see it in house in player housing. 405 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,720 OK. And so then what would you like 406 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,960 to, I guess additional systems for mounts? 407 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,760 I'd like to see them bring about Bring Back Mount broadcasts. 408 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,240 So during a portion of Wow, and I cannot tell you which portion 409 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,880 it's the years blend together, but it used to be when you 410 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,640 looted amount, it actually announced it in Guild for you. 411 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480 So and so looted such and such amount. 412 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,360 It doesn't do that anymore. And I'd like to see that brought 413 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,040 back, 'cause it, it always feels a little braggy when I'm like, 414 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,080 look, and I just link it and I'm like, look what I just got. 415 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Like, don't, don't make me do it for myself, Blizzard, do it for 416 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,040 me. Yeah, give, give a, give the 417 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,520 toast and then let the Guild celebrate it, I guess. 418 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,160 Yeah, OK. Yes, definitely. 419 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560 I'd also love to see another collector's bounty come back. 420 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,400 As much as I love mount exclusivity, which I it's fun. 421 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,000 I am one of the first people to be like, I want to be one of the 422 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,120 first people with that mount, but that doesn't mean that I 423 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,920 want to be the only person with that mount. 424 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,560 I want to see everybody else get all of the mounts that they 425 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,440 want. So please bring back Collector's 426 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,320 Bounty and let's get everybody back into mount collecting 427 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,680 because it is so much more fun when you get to do it with other 428 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,680 people. So then are you completely 429 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,520 against temporary mounts or mounts that like kind of prey on 430 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,680 FOMO? Do you want like all mounts to 431 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,440 always be available, or is there some sort of cut off that you're 432 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,360 fine with? I'm fine with having mounts 433 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,960 seasonally available. I think you should give people a 434 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,320 very nice, reasonable time frame to work towards them out and get 435 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,880 them out, and then that be it for a little while. 436 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Whether that be five years, seven years, and maybe bring it 437 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,080 back later. I'm a very big advocate for 438 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,720 letting people have what they want. 439 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:05,480 A good example of this is the TCG mounts and Blizzard giving 440 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,200 Twitch drops as TCG mounts. I'm OK with that. 441 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Now a lot of people are going to say Oh well that means you 442 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,000 probably don't have any. I have both spectral tiger 443 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,280 mounts and I am OK with them giving the spectral tiger mounts 444 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680 to other people. I've had it for years. 445 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,360 Let other people enjoy pixels. OK. 446 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480 And what about the half measures that they sometimes do where 447 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,720 they'll do, let's say a spectral tiger, but it'll be a different 448 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,760 tint and that'll be the new release. 449 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,360 Do you find that that's enough to satisfy people or like no no, 450 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440 release them both if you if you're going to do a different 451 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,200 tint. That I kind of see that as a 452 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080 whole different mount. Like they kind of gave us a 453 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,640 spectral tiger when they did the year of the Tiger water tiger 454 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240 from the shop. So we kind of got a spectral 455 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,080 tiger ish type mount that way, but it wasn't the spectral 456 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,120 tiger. Now they did give the spectral 457 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:12,280 tiger to China servers for I think it was refer a friend or 458 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,920 some kind of loot box drop that they did, I can't remember 459 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,640 which. And I know that made a lot of 460 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:25,040 people in the US mad and upset. So maybe not having regional 461 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,280 mounts, that kind of feels bad, but because the assets are 462 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,000 there. So there's almost no reason that 463 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,720 I can think of to keep regional assets unless it's illegal in 464 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,840 some country. Like I know China has really big 465 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360 laws and really stiff laws when it comes to what you can put in 466 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,000 a video game, but why not give it to the US base that that 467 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:56,440 would be OK in my opinion. OK, well then I guess the last 468 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:02,080 thing I really do want to ask you about is with mounts. 469 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:11,160 Do you find that there is any kind of like gameplay that you 470 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,480 would want? Like at one point long long ago 471 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,680 they had mounted combat on, I believe that was Wrath of the 472 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,920 Lich King where they said, oh, mounted combat will be a thing. 473 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,840 Yes, the jousting. I think this was aerial combat, 474 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,280 but yes, we got jousting and such. 475 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,960 Do you want more gameplay related to mounting, sorry to 476 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,480 mount or do you think that that like that's kind of come and 477 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,360 gone? Do do you think that like dragon 478 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,320 riding was a step too far or sorry? 479 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,160 What do they call it now? I forget what they call it now 480 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:55,480 the I don't know the flight system I feel. 481 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,200 Like we just still call it dragon riding. 482 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,400 Yeah, OK, Dragon riding because I can't recall what they renamed 483 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,400 it to, but do you feel like dragon riding was enough, a step 484 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,880 too far, not enough? Do you want more stuff that 485 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,240 involves like mounts or where do you where do you say? 486 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:21,040 I feel like dragon riding was fine and the quests that we got 487 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,400 to dragon ride and we still actually have a couple world 488 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,480 quests where we have to go out in the void and run into things 489 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,080 and knock them down or ride through rings and stuff like 490 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,120 that. I find that it's OK. 491 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,520 Like the amount that they gave us was fine. 492 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,680 I don't feel like it relates to mounts at all. 493 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,280 To me, it's more of a combat system at that point. 494 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,040 And at that point I worry about the accessibility to other 495 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,400 players because I know that other players have issues with 496 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,880 dragon riding and the way it may make them feel or the controls. 497 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,760 So I feel like the amount of that that we got was good, but I 498 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,120 don't feel like we need to revisit it. 499 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,600 OK, so for now mount says aesthetic. 500 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Mount is a nice little collectibles and a little bit of 501 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,280 prestige as well. No. 502 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,239 OK, OK, let me retract. Let me retract that. 503 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,639 OK. If I'm in Warzone, I will knock 504 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:26,960 you off your mount with my mount. 505 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,600 I will do that. But that is, that does not 506 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,600 happen that often. OK, all right then. 507 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,440 Well then, any last thoughts before we call it an episode? 508 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,000 I really just appreciate you having me on the show, Manny, to 509 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,040 talk about one of my favorite things in World Warcraft, which 510 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,639 is mount collecting. You know, this game has really 511 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:58,440 been a huge part of my life for decades at this point and I I 512 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,280 enjoy talking about it. So thank you so much. 513 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,120 No, it's been wonderful to have you on and I'm really glad you 514 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,080 were here to Guinea pig for me as I do want to do more for all 515 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,120 of our listeners and the patrons as well. 516 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,280 If you have a topic that you would like to talk about, send 517 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,160 me a line. You can reach me either through 518 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,040 discord or messaging on the patron and maybe we can have a 519 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,760 sit down talk about a topic of your choice as well. 520 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Until next time, though, may all your hits be goods.