1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,680 You are having a massive Crest Crest savings which means you 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,280 can Max that gear out sooner, which then gives you an 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,600 advantage in mythic plus against somebody who's not clearing the 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,440 raid on mythic faster because your gear is now a higher level 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,880 than they can get at the same point because we're capped by 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,480 crests. Victory for the Forsaken. 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,320 For Lauderon for the Karen tour. For. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:31,320 Pandaria for calendar to the burning region for Gilnaeus or 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:40,000 has not died for the Lich King for the Sindori for the Alliance 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,360 for the. Horn for. 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,640 Azeroth Hello and welcome back to another episode of For 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,320 Azeroth. I am one of your host Manny. 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,160 It gave true villain Manny and I have with me my 2 wonderful 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,000 codes. First introducing from the 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,680 lovely I was trying just trying to go for alliteration there, 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,720 but I failed. What's the place in I was going 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,880 to say Louisiana, but like I was thinking of something in between 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,160 like Burroughs or like Countryside that I couldn't 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,560 think of an L word. Anyways, Lex, how are you doing? 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,920 What about Montana? I hear the Big Sky country. 21 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:24,280 The mansions of Montana would work, but the like. 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,480 What of Louisiana? Lagoons of Louisiana. 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,120 Lagoons, I feel like there's there's another word that's like 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,400 on the tip of my tongue, but I can't figure out what it is. 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,240 And there's going to be like when people on Spotify made fun 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,200 of us for not knowing the difference between crawfish and. 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,600 Oh yeah, yeah. They make fun. 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Of yes, people like I can't believe three people don't know. 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,800 I can't believe you get 3 people together and don't know anything 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,320 about crawfish. And I'm like I want to take a. 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,680 The La Bayous, we'll just go. We'll go flat out. 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,720 We'll just go nice easy landscapes of Louisiana. 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,760 There you go. And so Lex, how are you and 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,120 how's the World of Warcraft been treating you? 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,000 It's. Treating me good I got my little 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,440 butterfly today I decided to actually grind for something for 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,400 once in my life and because World of Warcraft loves bad luck 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,280 protection. It was like 3 days and then I 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 got my little butterfly. So yeah, I got a Pretty Little 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,240 butterfly and tomorrow my Guild is doing our final run of 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,000 dementias and then we will be obviously almost to actual 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,160 midnight. So-called 1155 kids. 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,760 There you go. Congratulations on the butterfly 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,440 mount and I hope that you guys enjoy your last run of 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,080 dementias. Everyone's doing. 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,120 In my server about how we're never going to be able to do it 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,280 because nobody's been practicing. 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,720 And I'm like, well, we'll see. From what I've heard we will be 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 OK. Yeah, I I think it was Sean who 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,080 1st called it that. Like the heavy nerves made it 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,400 pretty laughable to a lot of people so. 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,160 You're doing it on Heroic, right? 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,160 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:55,960 OK. Yeah, you'll be fine. 55 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,400 And then the other voice that you just heard, of course, is 56 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Sean. Hello, Sean. 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,200 How are you and how's the World of Warcraft been treating you? 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,880 I'm back. I took a show off. 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,520 I recovered or recouped. I'm doing good. 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,640 I haven't logged in to Warcraft. I did the love rocket a couple 61 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:18,000 of times because I guess you're supposed to. 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,560 I did see you logged in doing the love rocket. 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,240 I was just like. Yeah, I just do it once a day. 64 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,040 I pop in, I run it. If I get I got all of the other 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,040 mounts except for the Love Rocket, but then because I got 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,720 the butterfly I had to go and turn in my man card because that 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,600 means I'm an awful person who doesn't love war enough or 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,680 something. So there's that only. 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Hatred. That's right, there's that. 70 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Now I I had to sit in a re locked room with the lights 71 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,840 dimmed and stare at that picture of gramma shell scream that was 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,280 penned on a bar napkin by Chris Metzen 30 years ago until I felt 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,760 the testosterone returned to my body. 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,800 My penance has been served. OK, OK. 75 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,240 They wouldn't let you out of the room until you could answer that 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,480 age-old questions. Wahoo. 77 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,120 What is it good for? That's. 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Right. That's right. 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,279 Yeah, yeah. All right, OK, well, I, I 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,920 haven't suffered that punishment yet, but I also got the 81 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,480 butterfly this year, got the butterfly, got the sweeper broom 82 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,600 that came out. And so all that is left is the 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,520 X-45, which remains my Moby Dick. 84 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:40,920 I am Captain Ahab. I have resorted to the old 85 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,240 account. Yeah, I flat out like I was, I 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,040 went like what? I think 3 days I was just like, 87 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 I'll go run through it on all these different characters. 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,200 I've actually got some characters I've hit like 80 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,840 because of this now, so that now they're ready for midnight and 90 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 like all of that. I guess I would have to do 91 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,600 anyways, because in order to have a chance at the mount, you 92 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:10,320 have to be like within, like, you have to like, at least try 93 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,560 and run these characters through. 94 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:18,320 But like, the first one is the highest, highest chance. 95 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,800 And so, yeah, I eventually was like, screw it. 96 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Everybody was telling me like, just do the old account. 97 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,280 And it feels dirty, guys. It feels like cheating. 98 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,040 Do you have to pay for those accounts? 99 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,720 No. Oh, they're just starter. 100 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,720 They're starter accounts. Yeah. 101 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,600 You so for people who don't know how this works because it isn't 102 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,120 against the terms of service so I might as well just tell you 103 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,240 here. What you do is you just go over 104 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,520 to your Battle.net, you start up 4 starter accounts, you create 105 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:58,400 characters that are level 10 on on a server, you group your 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,360 starter accounts and your main account all into one party. 107 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,520 So make sure that somebody can be a healer and somebody can be 108 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,400 a tank. And then you've run the dungeon 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:12,160 because you're getting the the heart-shaped box all at the same 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,000 time and they're being generated at the same time. 111 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,680 All of those five chances have the the increase odds of getting 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,680 the the drops. So technically I've gotten 2 113 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,560 butterflies on the same day. Go ahead. 114 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,800 I remember in the before times when combat weak or as existed, 115 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,960 a lot of people who I would classify probably as people who 116 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,320 enjoy the content casually or collectors would scream you're 117 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,880 only so good because the weak or as play for you when they're 118 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:50,400 cheating. This is the collector version of 119 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,240 weak or as playing the game for you. 120 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,400 I'd say it's. Worse, but keep going. 121 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:59,600 So yeah, if you're doing this, you're not really a collector, 122 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,640 you're just getting it because you're cheating. 123 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,040 So. Good news, man, Would you, would 124 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,840 you say that like weak horse makes you less of a would you 125 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:11,960 say that weak horse make you less of a cutting edge Raider 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,840 because you had weak horse helping you there? 127 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,400 I would if I am being facetious, if we're if we're playing. 128 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,640 If we're playing Sean on the everyday, not just trying to win 129 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,920 this argument, where does Sean stand? 130 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,240 Oh, Sean would say, go get that mouth. 131 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,960 Go get. OK, just wanted to know. 132 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Just because. Yeah, I don't know. 133 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,560 Because. Eventually people are going to 134 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,400 be like, huh, Sean seems to be talking out of both sides of his 135 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,400 mouth. Is that cheating? 136 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,520 Yeah, which Sean is the real Sean? 137 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,400 And the answer is neither. OK. 138 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Yeah. So it's there. 139 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,680 It does give you the greatly increased chances. 140 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,680 It does ramp up bad luck protection for all of them 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:00,640 except for the of course the X 45, which doesn't have bad luck 142 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,600 protection. It just has its inflated chance 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,720 and then its regular chance. No bad luck protection on that 144 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,160 anyways. So then after I did that, I went 145 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,080 and I got the ZAI Trustee glider, the one that you have to 146 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,920 go into the raid. So I did some LFR. 147 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Sorry to those people who were not expecting their tank to 148 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,280 ditch them part way through the boss after he got the stuff that 149 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,120 I needed. Manny. 150 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,720 You guys are telling me you go into LFR and you don't expect 151 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,200 your tank to ditch part way through? 152 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:36,039 At least I am the I am the tank. I am the tank, I know. 153 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,360 So you know you're ditching part way. 154 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:40,880 Through. I know you're prepared. 155 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,480 Yeah, technically I'm only planning to do that one boss 156 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,240 anyway, so I'm not ditching part way through. 157 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,360 I've done what I wanted to do in LF. 158 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Yeah, it was. It was actually the one run I 159 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,800 only ditched after the first boss. 160 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:03,160 The second one, one I ditched after clearing all three because 161 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,040 you needed to get past Fractalis in order to get to the place 162 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,960 that I needed. So, you know, I wasn't always 163 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,280 bad, I was just bad when it convenienced me. 164 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,320 Yeah. But there's a lot going on in 165 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,920 World of Warcraft, but we're we've got so much that we're 166 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,520 going to have to narrow this down. 167 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,040 The first thing that I want to talk about is some upcoming 168 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,240 stuff that people are going to be dealing with. 169 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,000 This is a change in the way that you upgrade your gear. 170 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,200 Now everybody knows that valor points are going the way. 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,520 As a dodo, we're not going to be dealing with those anymore. 172 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,440 But it doesn't mean that you only need Crest to upgrade. 173 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,120 They have changed it so that on top of using Crest, you will 174 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,840 also need to pay some gold to upgrade your gear. 175 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Now. It isn't that. 176 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,520 It isn't that the price is fixed, depending on what track 177 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,880 of gear you're on, that price will it will increase. 178 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,360 So veterans gear versus like mythic gear will have a 179 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,400 different cost per upgrade that you put out there. 180 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:19,640 And this kind of makes me wish that the the change where they 181 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,000 were allowing for up to 18 to give you further upgrades into 182 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,640 the path was there. Because that means that mythic 183 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,400 track at the end of the week from your vault, you're going to 184 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,840 have to spend the full full way upgrade. 185 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Whereas every track below that you have the ability to save on 186 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,080 some of that upgrade. So it feels weirdly punitive to 187 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:48,080 the top level of play of play. Top level of mythic plus because 188 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,000 from raid if you are a mythic Raider, your gear will drop at 189 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,320 those elevated tracks the further in the raid you are. 190 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:01,400 So yeah. I have a question, Sean, if when 191 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,320 you're rating and you unlock the different gear because it's 192 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,600 based on the bosses that you've defeated it in a in A tier, the 193 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,360 earlier, the earlier gear that does get raised to the level, 194 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,560 right? Correct me wrong. 195 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:16,640 So like. It does. 196 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,200 Yeah, that's like a savings across the board from your 197 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,040 selection. Yeah, more so so the gold 198 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,080 savings I think it's I have I have I have feelings with the 199 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,320 gold savings, but I have had a converse, a very good and deep 200 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,600 conversation with a friend who feels the exact opposite that I 201 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,200 do. So I will say that I think the 202 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,880 gold amount is negligible for the upgrades. 203 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,640 I think Blizzard hurt us with the trans mug stuff and said OK, 204 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,440 we will make this cost less. I will talk about his point of 205 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,920 view later on. But more importantly, the the 206 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:56,400 biggest savings is in the Crest cost because Crest cost goes up 207 00:11:56,560 --> 00:12:00,520 now when you upgrade. So it's like 10 for the first 208 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,880 track, 20 for the second track, 30 up to whatever. 209 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,520 So it ramps up so that it's going to be harder to upgrade 210 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,960 tracks into the further ones. So if you're clearing the raid 211 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:15,760 sooner in mythic, you are having a massive Crest savings, which 212 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,600 means you can Max that gear out sooner, which then gives you an 213 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,960 advantage in Mythic Plus against somebody who's not clearing the 214 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,800 raid on mythic faster because your gear is now a higher level 215 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,240 than they can get at the same point because we're capped by 216 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,240 crests. So the the Crest savings from 217 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,920 the vault from from mythic grading is is massive. 218 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,840 It is a massive, massive advantage. 219 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Sort of be goblin on Maine, but doesn't this push a lot of weird 220 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,000 power into crafted gear 'cause if you crafted something high 221 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,680 and then suddenly you don't need to pay for those crests that 222 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:56,760 means. Crafted gear is significantly 223 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,560 more valuable in Season 1 at midnight as of this recording. 224 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,080 We don't actually have like official numbers from Blizzard, 225 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,120 but everything that we've data mined and seen on the PTR as of 226 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,920 this recording, crafted gear is a massive, massive Crest savings 227 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,560 over levelling up the gear over over gear. 228 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:17,400 Like raising your your gear through the the upgrade system. 229 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:21,720 Understood. I will say as the resident 230 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,800 brokey on this podcast, I also think this cost is negligible. 231 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,840 I think it's stupid and annoying, especially since so 232 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,600 many other things are costing more gold. 233 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,320 And as again the resident brokey. 234 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,720 Like I would rather not spend as much gold, but currently we're 235 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:40,600 looking at almost like close to 4000 gold to upgrade everything 236 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,440 to mythic. Assuming I'm assuming the 237 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Wowhead did their math right, I'm not doing it again. 238 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,600 And you get that in world quests and stuff like that just kind of 239 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,760 drops over time. You got that through like 240 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,960 reading and selling things. It's not like I again, I'm not 241 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,760 looking at these numbers like this is devastating. 242 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,200 I think it's dumb. I think it is a dumb gold sync 243 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,200 for no apparent reason and the fact that the number like either 244 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,840 the numbers are negligible and don't matter, in which case why 245 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,360 are we doing this? It's silly, it's negatable, it 246 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,280 doesn't matter or the gold is high enough that it hurts, in 247 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,080 which case this is stupid. Why are we making it hurt right? 248 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,000 So like why, frankly, valor stones were nicer because I 249 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,880 could I don't know, I don't think I don't really I think 250 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,760 it's annoying, but I don't really like deeply care right. 251 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,000 This isn't ruining midnight for me. 252 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,720 I I hope they don't I Blizzard don't do it. 253 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,680 It's dumb but like. I, I want to, I want to talk 254 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,200 about two points that you raised there. 255 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:41,640 One was that like it feels negligible as a gold sink. 256 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,360 Negligible costs are amazing gold sinks. 257 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,800 If you get 5 gold from like a million players, that's better 258 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,920 than hitting 500 gold from 10 players. 259 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,000 People will block at 500 gold to be like, whoa, I'm not going to 260 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,840 like suddenly 3 digits crazy right? 261 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,640 But 5 gold, 5 gold, 5 gold and you hit and you hit like a 262 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,240 million players you've made you've taken way more gold out 263 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,320 of the system in general. So it's it being negligible to 264 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,680 both you and Sean, but not Sean's friend, right? 265 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,800 That's I think that's a really good way of doing a gold, a gold 266 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,080 sink. The second thing is, yeah, Lex 267 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,080 is like when you're looking at this and you're thinking of 268 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,520 World Quest, a world Quest today, gold's back in World 269 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Quest. That was a little bit of drama 270 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,000 we missed where gold disappeared from World Quest and then they 271 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,560 came back in. But gold's back in World Quest 272 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,920 and you're getting something like 809 hundred gold on a World 273 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,600 Quest. I think I've seen some in the 274 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:45,960 before times that were that like we're over 1000, which means 275 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,640 that like throughout a week, yeah, you could build up enough 276 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,000 gold to like pay through half, if not most of the of this 277 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,760 upgrade track in today's gold runs. 278 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,880 Whereas I don't suspect that most people will take something 279 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,600 from like one out of six to six out of six in a single week 280 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:12,160 generally right, because they'll be capped on Crest and other 281 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,120 resources. So I think that the gold isn't 282 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,240 going to be the limiting factor here. 283 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,440 This isn't them trying to suddenly push everybody towards 284 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,280 getting a token to like pay for their their gold cost. 285 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:30,520 This is as I think this feels less painful than repair costs. 286 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,280 When like you've had a hard night wiping like this, this 287 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,400 feels far, far more manageable and actually rewarding rather 288 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:45,320 than punishing. I so I don't care and I actively 289 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,920 try to only give my point of view on on the podcast. 290 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,320 I don't like to speak for the community at large or especially 291 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,280 player groups that I don't belong to or even people in my 292 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,160 own player group. I tried to just say, hey, here's 293 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,640 how this feels to me and that this is my feedback for how it 294 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,359 affects Sean. But I do want to address because 295 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,359 you guys are sort of in the same boat. 296 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,319 You're like, OK, whatever. It's. 297 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,240 Sure, Yeah, I'd love to hear what your friend was trying to. 298 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,240 Say so for the record my friend. Also this is negligible for 299 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,839 them. He plays as much as we play, if 300 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:18,880 not more so. He said this will never affect 301 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,920 me, but he said he doesn't ever want the situation to be where 302 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,839 buying a token is the right way to play. 303 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:28,119 And I I bought at that. And he said there are players, 304 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,720 let me find it here. There are casual players who log 305 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,560 in twice a week and now you're telling them they have to choose 306 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,160 between upgrading their gear or saving gold for amount. 307 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,720 He said it's negligible to us, but for the majority of players 308 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,000 who aren't playing this game like a living, they're going to 309 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,560 feel this. And I don't belong to that 310 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,800 group. And I would also say, is that 311 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,080 group really getting that much gear to upgrade? 312 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,040 But I don't, I don't know, maybe, maybe they are. 313 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,880 I want to push back on that, but I'm going to let Lex have her 314 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,880 say first. Oh yeah, I was going to have my 315 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,600 collectors don't raid moment and say I don't really think as 316 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,240 somebody who tends to raid log a little bit, like I don't think 317 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,400 people who are only logging in once a week and I don't think 318 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,280 they're pushing the gear. I don't think they're going to 319 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,000 be doing these upgrades a lot. And again, I say this as one of 320 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,120 them, right? I do not upgrade my like I'm 321 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,760 looking at these numbers and I'm like, yeah, OK, that's about 322 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,440 what I would collect and it's worth. 323 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,200 I don't know that we've read out the gold numbers if we did and 324 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,160 I'm. Forgetting no, I just gave a 325 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,560 ballpark because it's beta. They might change and stuff. 326 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,240 But yeah, for current reference of what we're talking about, go 327 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,080 ahead and read those out. So currently Adventure track 328 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,080 it's 10 gold per upgrade, Veteran track it's 20 gold per 329 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,480 upgrade, Champion track it's 30 gold per upgrade, Hero track 330 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,440 it's 40 gold per upgrade, and Mythic is 50 gold per upgrade. 331 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,920 I actually think that does kind of scale with how much you play, 332 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,480 right? If you are really just like 333 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,760 logging in to do like a Dell of a week for the walls of it and 334 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,960 you're not pushing anything, you're going to make at least 335 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,360 enough to upgrade through 10 gold. 336 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,520 You know, 1020, maybe 30 gold. But frankly, again, I'm pretty 337 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,200 grade loggy and I am not. I wouldn't be concerned if it 338 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,720 was all the 50 gold. I'd still think it's dumb, but 339 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,680 like I I really think that these are pretty on par with what you 340 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480 are going to make doing the content that would give you 341 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,840 those upgrades or giving that that would give you that right. 342 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,720 So I'm, I, I guess I'm also a little bit curious what you're 343 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,760 trying to meant specifically by like, we don't want someone 344 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,840 who's like has to choose between saving for a mount and like, I'm 345 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,280 actually, I'm trying to think of what dude, there's always going 346 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,440 to be competing desires. If you're like, if you're, if 347 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,640 you're pushing and saving goals, that's an entirely different 348 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:53,080 world if you're like trying to get something, but I don't 349 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,840 think, I mean at that point it's the same thing as like, are you 350 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,800 going to feel like you have to buy a craft so you can do your 351 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,240 gear upgrade, right? I don't think Sean can like 352 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,360 debate for his friends, right? Yeah. 353 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:12,160 But like I would, I would caution anybody who is making a 354 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,280 claim like that, that you are trying to invent a character 355 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:22,440 that exactly is the is the perfect victim of the of such a 356 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,760 system, right? Somebody who is looking to 357 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,680 purchase a mount, but upgrading their gear who somehow was able 358 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,800 to pay the hundreds and thousands of gold that we paid 359 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:41,280 in the War Within to get gems, enchantments and so forth, like 360 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:45,320 commissions on crafting gear, right, but it's somehow now 361 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,800 balking at these numbers in the inflated goal that we're going 362 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,520 to get in midnight is such a strange case to make to me that 363 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,760 I like I want to call an illogical extreme. 364 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,400 I I like it's creating the straw man almost. 365 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:05,400 But again, like this is like, yes, this is a little bit more 366 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,760 strained one way, right? And it can negatively impact 367 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,400 some players that are like, I really just wanted to raid log. 368 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,120 But those people who were just raid logging, were they getting 369 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:22,080 enough valor to go straight through to the top? 370 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Or did they then need to log in and get more valor, which is 371 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,480 now, hey, just go get gold and congratulations, you get gold in 372 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,280 a myriad of different ways. I don't see this as a 373 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,280 punishment. I just think this opens up 374 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,960 different ways for people to do it. 375 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,520 If they want to not leave town and instead sell stuff on the 376 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,520 auction house that's now valid for of them. 377 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,080 They don't have to go do the world quest. 378 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,160 They don't need to be like, well, I got to go look through 379 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,200 the world map and see what's available to get me this thing, 380 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,720 right? Indestructible gear is now 381 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,560 suddenly like that much more powerful for them because now 382 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,080 they save on the repair cost and they go through this, right? 383 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,960 I can ask, I can like easily transfer gold from 1 alt to the 384 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,800 to the other. Now people don't need to 385 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,560 complain that valor points are character locked for so long, 386 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,400 right? Like there's so many ways that 387 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,960 this is an improvement. I think people are so quick to 388 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,520 find this special case where it's going to hurt somebody and 389 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:28,440 it's like on the average, on the vast majority of the cases, I 390 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,040 think this is a win. Yeah, me, me too. 391 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Yeah, I said, I dramatically said something about like, I 392 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,440 wish we didn't. I would rather have Valor. 393 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,800 That's not true. It is, as Manny pointed out, it 394 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,960 actually is significantly easier to grind gold than Valor and. 395 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:43,800 And you can just buy a token like you know. 396 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,520 What I mean, that's, that's what we don't want to know what he 397 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,200 wants. Nobody wants to hear that, but 398 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,320 like tripper boost is going to hit and it's going to be a 399 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,520 while. I got to upgrade all this shit. 400 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,680 There. Are times. 401 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,680 Token like almost like at least a few months ago and I've been 402 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,720 riding that high. I still log in sometimes. 403 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,440 I'm like I have over 300. Go. 404 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:06,040 We just finished a pretty big series of sales, so I'm over 405 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,320 2,000,000 for the first time ever. 406 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,920 There you go, there you go. I I wanted to just take this 407 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,400 moment to give a shout out to all the Ray leaders that ate way 408 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,240 too many of those beans that like taste different ways and 409 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,760 may have had like the needed to get their stomach pumped. 410 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,560 We we, we give a cheer out to you, Brock and everyone who did 411 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,600 that. Oh, the bean boozle. 412 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Yeah. Yeah. 413 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:37,600 But moving on from that, we've got another piece of power 414 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,160 that's coming into the World of Warcraft. 415 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,240 And this one I'm a little bit more upset about because it has 416 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,880 been data mined that there is a quest where you and five people 417 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:56,760 need to complete this quest in order to get augment runes or 418 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,120 crests or a myriad of different things that you might want to 419 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:04,080 improve your power and get through World of Warcraft. 420 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,000 I know that doesn't sound like anything that I should be upset 421 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,440 about, but the reason that I dislike this is because it is a 422 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,040 quest that requires you to go to one of the players houses and 423 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,200 just be there while the house owner is there. 424 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,240 Player housing shouldn't be connected to power in my eyes, 425 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,760 not even in the slightest. This is very low hanging fruit 426 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,840 and it's so easy to do. It doesn't seem to say what the 427 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,160 duration is. It's probably something that 428 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,600 once all of you have zoned in and the game checks, which is 429 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,000 like I think every every second or so, it'll be like 430 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:45,880 congratulations, go turn this in. 431 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,920 It's incredibly easy to complete. 432 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,040 It is such a quick and easy way to get those augment runes 433 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,120 because we have had over the last couple of expansions, those 434 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:01,600 runes becoming a little bit harder to come by if you're not 435 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,440 a tank or healer that can like get them from the LFG system. 436 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,280 And so, hey, like I'll take advantage of this, but I don't 437 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,240 want it to exist. To be fair, Throwing this to you 438 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040 first, Lex, what what do you think about this this quest I. 439 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,560 Think there's no world where they leave this weekly. 440 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,000 I think that is insane. I think this is going to be a 441 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,880 one time quest. I could be wrong, I'm wrong 442 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,880 about a lot of things, but I do agree. 443 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,560 Reading this Wowhead article I they're talking about how like 444 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,840 it's not that big of a bump because it doesn't give you 445 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,600 mythic Don crafts. I cannot. 446 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,120 Again, maybe it's just that I don't tank. 447 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,600 I can't imagine anyone knocking. That's huge, right? 448 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,880 Like those are so hard. At least I I had a really hard 449 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,560 time getting them. I don't know, maybe I'm bad at 450 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,200 this. Well, I'm OK. 451 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,640 You know what I did, you did forget to list all the different 452 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,600 things that you could get. So would you be able to list 453 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,760 those for us, Lex? Just so we we bring everybody up 454 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,320 to speed. Yes, so you're you can choose 455 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,320 either 20 hero Don crafts 40 champion Don crafts 60 veteran 456 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,000 Don crafts 500 void like moral. I'm not sure what that is. 457 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,560 I'm not sure if everyone else is or three void touched augment 458 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,560 rooms. And then you also get the base. 459 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,840 So you pick one of those and you get in the essence of lumber 500 460 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,480 more void light moral for 25 community coupons, which for 461 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,440 those of you who haven't been playing the in housing yet, 462 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,880 that's how you buy cute little things at the end of the 463 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:40,920 endeavors and like 34 gold. I again am famously not very 464 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,840 good at this game. 3 augment runes a week would be a huge 465 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,480 power upgrade for me. I wasn't getting those until I 466 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,280 was hitting the end of the rain track. 467 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,120 So unless they were going to be giving you void light augment 468 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:59,680 rune or void touch augment runes much more generously in in 469 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,760 midnight overall that in and of itself is a huge upgrade. 470 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,040 And I just I I don't think this will be weekly. 471 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,920 I I really see this as a one time thing that is going to be 472 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,560 fun. Like you know when you log in 473 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,920 you get your first 3 rooms and you all go hang out at someone's 474 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:25,200 house and then you're. Done OK I if it was a one time 475 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:32,560 thing I feel like every guide writer is going to say grab the 476 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,880 runes you'll get everything else. 477 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,920 You'll get everything else quicker. 478 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,320 Especially unless those press don't crown towards your weekly 479 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,880 cap or something. It like the which would be 480 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920 utterly broken. But do you find it more 481 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,360 acceptable as a one time thing with those with those rewards? 482 00:27:51,360 --> 00:28:00,600 Yeah, I'm not as concerned about it being like, like I think a 483 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,520 little bit of player power from housing like one time, this 484 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,920 isn't getting right. Like you can get all of these 485 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,080 things pretty easily, including the augment ruins that are 486 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,280 losing my mind about. I agree. 487 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,640 I think that they would be the number one choice regardless, 488 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,160 but especially if it's a one time thing. 489 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,480 But it's not that hard to get. It's hard if you're whiny like 490 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,600 me, but it's not that terrible to get Augment Ruins if you 491 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,880 really want to. So I don't think it's a huge 492 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040 crazy boost. The one thing that I'm a little 493 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,600 bit icky on is that it does kind of reward having friends, right? 494 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,160 I'm sure, especially this weekly, that they'll be like 495 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:41,720 group finders that you can join. But I think power that goes to 496 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,480 having just people you can log in and hang out with, I would 497 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:53,280 argue is potentially a little bit worse than like player power 498 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,480 coming from housing because you built a really cool house. 499 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,280 But again, I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. 500 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,480 I think it's going to be really easy to find a group if this is 501 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,080 the thing you need to find groups for, right? 502 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,680 Like it'll be in discords and they'll be group Finder things. 503 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Oh, yeah, I'll set it. I'll do it myself. 504 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,160 I will like literally sit there with four friends and be like, 505 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640 we'll rotate you through everybody, get you, get your 506 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200 prize because I, I would hate for this to be gate kept. 507 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,040 But Sean, what are your thoughts on this? 508 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,880 I well, first of all, I don't think there's any shot this is 509 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,400 weekly. I'm pretty sure this is much 510 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320 like the cracked keystone that you got at the end of delves was 511 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,520 a one time thing to push you into. 512 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,960 Hey, you like delves? Try mythic plus. 513 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,480 I think this is a hey, why don't you check out housing in case 514 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,040 you haven't, you know this, that's what this is. 515 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,880 This is a my suspicion is this is a one time quest. 516 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,960 I also think the augment runes are going to be soul bound, much 517 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960 like the augment runes that we got from the quest for killing 518 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,760 the soul hunters were at which completely devalues them. 519 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,280 And the real big brain play is to take the purple enchanting 520 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,680 material on all of your alts and sell that on the auction house. 521 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Take the augment runes on your main if they're soul bound, and 522 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,320 then take the enchanting mats on every alts that you have and 523 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,280 sell those on the auction hose. That's the play. 524 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,320 I don't, I mean, I understand they said we're not going to tie 525 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,520 power to player power to housing. 526 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,800 If if this is a one time quest, which is what I suspect it is 527 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,080 for, crests aren't moving the needle, 3 augment rooms aren't 528 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,880 moving the needle. This is fine. 529 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,520 If it's just as a goal post to say, hey, we have this new 530 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,840 feature called player housing. Maybe you haven't tried it out 531 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,520 yet. Go check it out. 532 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,240 I think that's fine. You want to direct people there. 533 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,400 This is our this is the the box feature of midnight player 534 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,560 housing. It's targeted at bringing 535 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,040 players back to the game, bringing in new players. 536 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000 It just makes sense that you would have something pointing at 537 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,360 it. Yeah, I don't think there's any 538 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,280 shot it's weekly. But I got to be honest, even if 539 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,120 it is weekly, I still don't really care. 540 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,480 I understand everybody's concerns, but if it's weekly, 541 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,680 it's just free gold. If it just if it's weekly, just 542 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,320 go get your camping mats and sell them on the auction house 543 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,480 and pay for your upgrades that you were upset about earlier. 544 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,960 Yeah, I I think it's probably a one time quest that says, hey, 545 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,280 check this out, you know, check out player housing is what I 546 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200 think. I also think we don't need to 547 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,600 raise our pitchforks until we know data mined stuff doesn't 548 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,080 always make it to live. Yeah, but I do hear. 549 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,960 If it is a weekly, that would also make it even more punishing 550 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,120 to not have friends, right, Because it'll be so like if if 551 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,960 it's like, for example, if it's weekly, what we're but I'm sure 552 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,680 my red Guild is going to do is every single Thursday when we 553 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,440 all log in, the first thing we all do is go to someone's house 554 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000 for two seconds and then go jump in the right and everyone gets 555 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,720 their augment rooms and we use that for the night and we move 556 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,000 on. Or whatever you want to get from 557 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,040 your class that I'm sure will be harder if like if it is a 558 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,400 weekly, I my guess is it, it's going to get a little bit more 559 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120 challenging to find things like group Finder or Discord groups, 560 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,120 especially if you aren't really in a lot of communities, you 561 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,800 don't really know how to lock into that. 562 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,680 And so you're going to just every week get a little 563 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,680 disadvantaged. I'm with Sean, though. 564 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880 Like I said from the beginning, I really don't think they're 565 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,160 keeping. This quickly hi, I'm I'm 566 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,640 wondering if raid teams are going to be like Timbermont 567 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Tavern. They're going to create the 568 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,840 group and then just invite the Raiders 1 by 1 into the house 569 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,360 and that's when they inspect them and be like, oh, go to the 570 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,280 doctor house, go get your gear set up. 571 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,600 But you know, for the nicer teams like I'm sure they'll do 572 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,280 they'll just do it as like a fun little thing. 573 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,840 But yeah, that'll be I don't like it. 574 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,600 I don't like when they like if you set something, you should 575 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,600 stay the hell away from it. And there should be no player 576 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,600 power attached to attached to this. 577 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,080 Really. I don't mind if it's like gold 578 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:04,400 and here is like some cool little decor like they'd be 579 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,000 doing Twitch drops like they've been doing all these 580 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000 advertisements. That's how you get people Be 581 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,240 like, oh cool, what? How do I set this up? 582 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,680 Cool, let me go do the tutorial and throw my little plushy 583 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,520 plushy down. That to me is how you guide 584 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800 people to do this. If you suddenly be like, hey, 585 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:28,280 hey, hey, hey, want to get some like epic gear or and attach 586 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,520 that to like doing the tutorial for housing. 587 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,200 I don't like it. I like it all. 588 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,480 Anyways, I'd love to hear what the FAST community thinks about 589 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920 this. So Fazzers, join in at bit dot 590 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680 LY slash FAST discord and let us know. 591 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,600 Still can't believe FAZZ Hands didn't win. 592 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,720 I'm happy fazzers, I'm happy, I'm happy for us. 593 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,920 But next year we're doing another vote and I'm just saying 594 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,640 I've been pumping the discord full of FAZZ Hand fans. 595 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,640 I will make 100. The voting will continue until 596 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,240 Sean wins. That's. 597 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Right. All right. 598 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,639 With that said, I think this is a great opportunity to thank all 599 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:19,040 of our patrons. Sean, would you be willing to 600 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,920 give that little? Yeah, I don't have the thing 601 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,679 open. I'm going to do this. 602 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,280 Natty, from memory. Are you ready? 603 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,560 Here we go, Patrons. We want to give a big thank you 604 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,400 for everybody at the FAZ team, to you, for Azeroth. 605 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,239 We'll always be free, however if you feel like supporting us, you 606 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:43,639 can pledge at patreon.com/fazandfazpodcast/faz/for. 607 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:44,800 I don't know what our Patreon is. 608 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,639 FAZ podcast and you get all kinds of fun stuff like the pre 609 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,040 and post show from every episode that we have there. 610 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880 It's very short today because my partner has just come home since 611 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,520 I haven't seen her since Christmas, but I still am 612 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,000 dedicated to FAZ and I'm here to record because of you, 613 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,880 specifically you if you're listening. 614 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,040 FAZ patron #17. You in particular are the reason 615 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,720 that I have chosen to be here tonight instead of upstairs with 616 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:16,160 my wife. Thank you for your patronage, 617 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:24,880 FAZ patron #17. We really do appreciate you 618 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,640 being here and spending time away from Anjali. 619 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,320 So we're that. Let's talk about our last news 620 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400 story. I'm going to pass this to you, 621 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,800 Sean, so you can get through it quickly. 622 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,680 I don't. Even have it in front of me. 623 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,320 I don't remember what the third story was. 624 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,720 Our third story. Is I don't know, it's the. 625 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,320 Customization, Customization. It's the customization, yeah. 626 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,000 So it was a big interview. And Blizzard said, hey, we hear 627 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,600 you. We're going to focus on doing 628 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,800 customization for new classes. And I got to tell you, I just 629 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200 wanted to talk about this because I just wanted the chance 630 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:03,880 for FAZ dev to hear me say pleadingly, make up undead one 631 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,760 of the customization options, please. 632 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:11,280 I care about nothing else. Yeah, everybody has the 633 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,480 customizations that they have on their wish list. 634 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,680 There are a lot of things that seem like low lying fruit. 635 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,240 There are customizations that are on the night Elves or Blood 636 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:26,680 Elves that aren't on the Night Born or on the Void Elves and 637 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,440 vice versa. There are things that can be 638 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,200 done for macro orcs versus orcs and so forth just across 639 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,800 pollinate. Those are the low lying fruit. 640 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,120 But further from that, I think that there is a great thing to 641 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,400 do to add additional customization. 642 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,760 I would love if my like wizard or priest did not look like they 643 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,000 benched like my body weight every week I give. 644 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Me, those thin colturans I want, you know, like the the scary 645 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,560 skinny colturans with a book, Ichabod Crane. 646 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,240 I want those. I think I think so too. 647 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,840 Like, I think there's a lot of things I would love if they had 648 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,480 like a just like the ability to select various animations so 649 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,680 that your character didn't move, like every character of your 650 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,560 race, slash, slash, like body type. 651 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,360 I think that there's different body types that they can throw 652 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,240 out there and all sorts of things that they can do that are 653 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,880 obviously far more labor intensive. 654 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,080 And therefore, I don't expect that this is something that they 655 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,360 should do all at once, But I would like them to switch away 656 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,680 from what they did in Warlords where they did a big update to 657 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:39,720 all the player models in. And instead do what they've been 658 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:44,280 doing more recently, which is adding new hair colors in this 659 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,640 batch. Because hey, we want to throw in 660 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,640 hair colors, adding in a new animation here because we're 661 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,080 doing this animation with like this enemy. 662 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,480 And I think that'd be cool for players to have that animation. 663 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,600 So we got lean, so we got stuff like that. 664 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,680 And if they can, I think forward where it's like, hey, we're not 665 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,960 going to just do this for like this one time thing, but we're 666 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,680 also going to throw this in with players. 667 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,320 I think they can like give us a more steady stream of these 668 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,720 things without having to like devote a ton of resources to it. 669 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,760 Because I know immediately there's going to be a question 670 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,960 of like, is this going to cost us a raid tear? 671 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,840 And I really don't want that. We're getting so many raids and 672 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,800 and such in midnight. And I love that switch. 673 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,720 I'm not asking you to stop that. I just if you're going to do 674 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:33,360 this and I want you to do this, just mix it into the in the 675 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,560 natural flow live team. Come at come at it right. 676 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:44,960 I don't I don't think we need we need to like radically change 677 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,960 things from what what they are right now. 678 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:54,680 But like you guys are putting out amazing mounts and amazing 679 00:38:54,680 --> 00:39:01,000 cinematics and like some of the music in in these raids and in 680 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,560 these areas has been really amazing. 681 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,240 And so I think like you could similarly do the same thing with 682 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,760 player expression because like that's how we interact with this 683 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,360 world is through our characters. Yeah, I do think there's 684 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,640 actually a little bit of an argument for doing a really deep 685 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,760 push for character upgrades. In my head, I'm almost thinking 686 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,320 of this is like the same way that they've dedicated to an 687 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,080 absurd team, to housing spending a tier where they're like is an 688 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840 art team that is just laser focused on character 689 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,320 customization. Partially because it does feel, 690 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,720 and I say this is a blood off player. 691 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,120 So I'm, I believe in one of the lucky classes. 692 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,880 It's not like the number of customizations per class or per 693 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,440 race are identical. And so it does kind of feel like 694 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,520 I worry that if it's just we're rolling things out as we think 695 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,960 of them, that the less thought of class of races, I really 696 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,000 cannot put my brain on straight today, the less thought of races 697 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,360 are. Just going to keep kind of 698 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,080 getting ignored and it's going to keep being like, oh, sick, 699 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,760 you know, be a really cool human customization. 700 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,360 Oh man, you know what? I'm really good on a night owl. 701 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,360 Like there's a risk that if you are not very careful and 702 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,280 thoughtful about how you are building customizations to make 703 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,040 it comfortable and equal to all of the races, that it becomes 704 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520 like you just kind of accidentally keep piling the 705 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,560 popular one that most of your devs are probably playing just 706 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,120 by virtue of the fact they're most popular. 707 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,400 So you're getting those feedback on just by virtue of the fact 708 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,200 that they're most popular? Yeah, that's how old. 709 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:40,840 Sorry. Go ahead. 710 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680 Oh yeah, it's also not like that. 711 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,560 Think of a deal. And they are talking about other 712 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,920 things they could do, like using glyphs and things like that. 713 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,640 So they could also hit this kind of creatively. 714 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,240 So they, for example, give different walk styles that you 715 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,840 can kind of do whatever your race is. 716 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,880 So it's less like, I'm just going to like, we have to go fix 717 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,840 the goblins, we have to go do the gnome. 718 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:05,840 And it's also not like housing in a sense of like you don't 719 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,400 need a huge team to work on it because it's more cute little 720 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,080 upgrades than not. We are going to build a whole 721 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,120 new system from scratch and make sure it works and give you a 722 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,640 bunch of stuff so that it's fun for the. 723 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:21,400 UK yeah. I mean like I I pointed to the 724 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,080 allied races because in my mind Volpeer don't move like Volpeer 725 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,280 they are just goblins with fur and that annoys the crap out of 726 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,360 me. But like, to your point and I, I 727 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,920 think this might be a quote from Sean. 728 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,920 I think, Sean, this is where where I got it from. 729 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,760 So, so correct me if I'm wrong, but like, humans don't need a 730 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,200 million different eyebrows because like. 731 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040 That's not a quote from me. I love my eyebrows. 732 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,760 OK OK. Not my real ones. 733 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,440 I barely have any in real life, which is why I want so many in 734 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,400 the game. I only use one pair. 735 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,080 There's only one set I use, that's the ones that look like 736 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,000 they're drawn on really thick. So I actually, I guess we only 737 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,080 need one set of eyebrows. You're right, Manny, it wasn't 738 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,240 me who said that, but I agree with it. 739 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,000 OK, one set of eyebrows and beardless dwarfs. 740 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,880 And beardless dwarfs. And, you know, beards for 741 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,720 trolls, Beards for trolls. Yeah, give the dwarf beards to 742 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:16,680 the trolls I'm down for. That not a dwarf. 743 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160 Beards are garbage. Give trolls their own beard. 744 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,720 Beards we don't. We don't beard judge here. 745 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,360 They're not garbage, they're just not for you. 746 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,720 I'm sorry, they're not for me and some of them may actually 747 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,800 have cans of garbage in them the way that they like put them 748 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,480 together. So I don't think I'm being here 749 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,920 regardless. Yeah, I would love to see a lot 750 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,920 more for different for different players. 751 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:52,320 One thing that I would want to prioritize is hairstyles and 752 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,720 different skin tones. We had that entire push where 753 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:58,960 they're like, hey, we're going to put in like different skin 754 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,320 tones for, for characters. And we got some black 755 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440 representation and Black History Month. 756 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,400 So I will, I will flat out say that. 757 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,680 But like there are other people of color other than like black, 758 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,320 black and white. And I'd love to see some some of 759 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,600 that representation put in to like the races where it makes 760 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,920 sense, such as elves and humans and dwarves and gnomes, because 761 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,720 they're basically all humanoids of the of similar. 762 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:33,640 So I'd love to see it, would love to see those prioritized. 763 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,760 And yeah, like, get on it, please. 764 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,480 I would love that. Is there any particular 765 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,400 customization that you would like to see just like off the 766 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,400 top of your head? I'm going to first hand it to 767 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,080 Sean, actually. Sorry I put you guys on the 768 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,240 spot. I'll give mine and then I'll 769 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,680 I'll. I already gave it. 770 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,680 I can go. I can go first. 771 00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,840 OK. Yeah. 772 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,480 Upright undead. All right, All right, Right. 773 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,200 It's the. So if you go to Zoltazar, the 774 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,760 only redeeming qualityable Zoltazar is that the forsaken 775 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,840 guards at stand inside of King Rasta Khan's temple are all 776 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,960 standing upright. And they look imposing. 777 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,000 They look confident. They're majestic. 778 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,400 They are majestic AF, as the kids would say they are. 779 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,640 Looks maxing. I learned that term this week 780 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,840 and I want that in the game. I would swap a lot of my 781 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,360 characters over to undead if I could just stand up straight. 782 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,880 Let me fix that posture. No, I don't want to be 783 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,440 shrimping. That's my pick. 784 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,160 I want that. Fazdev, please, I will do 785 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,960 anything. I will even stop saying 786 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,880 incendiary things that make Manny frustrated if you just 787 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,000 give me upright undead for legal reasons, I can't guarantee that 788 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,000 will. Happen yeah that that's a that's 789 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,040 a lie. Don't promise things that you 790 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,320 can't deliver. What are you a Blizzard dev? 791 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,160 So I want to say that in chat, Goblin graphics has said undead 792 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:03,080 need elf ear options like having like different races that can be 793 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,680 undead since we've gone past that, especially with the 794 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,400 trailer that came out today. Did I miss lore? 795 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,680 Have I said this every single time? 796 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,560 Did can Blvd. now change non humans? 797 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040 Well, considering Death Knights are all races, yes. 798 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,200 Well don't, but as an old undead role player this is actually a 799 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,720 little bit sticky because the Arthus could raise non humans as 800 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:29,560 undead but Sylvanus couldn't. She was only able to raise 801 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,080 humans and so that's one of the arguments for why undead are all 802 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,080 humans is. I think even with Arthus he was 803 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:40,040 overwhelmingly raising humans. Well, the problem is that like 804 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,480 when Arthur's came on upon Silver Moon and it's and see 805 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:52,800 Silver Moon and they just did the entire short animation. 806 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,800 They have now confirmed right that the elves did get turned 807 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,080 into into undead, especially since Sylvanas also got turned 808 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,680 into undead so long ago. So like it's it's just it's such 809 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,920 a pigeonhole sort of thing of like a kind of just weird 810 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,680 justification where you should have. 811 00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:16,920 And we've had dark dark Rangers, right, that Sylvanas made in 812 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,240 BFA. So I don't know what is being 813 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,760 like picked out. Like it was probably a thing 814 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,840 that those said at the time and then later on they just threw it 815 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,200 out the window. There's been multiple times 816 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:36,200 where we have seen other races, well particularly elves, become 817 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,760 undead. Right, that's fair. 818 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,440 OK, I took it back up. We should get elf ears. 819 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,800 We're undead. Yeah I would I would love a a 820 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:52,000 undead organ, just bone wolf. But they have way more lore to 821 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,640 say that they can't be. Undead. 822 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,680 No, no, no, that what I'm just like there's like like that's 823 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,320 what it's like. Oh, even though I would want to 824 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,760 at least I know that there's a solid Lord that says that that's 825 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,440 a no go. Like the curse protect protects 826 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,840 them from the from one death anyways. 827 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,440 So yeah, I think that that that would be a very cool thing to 828 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,520 see Goblin. But Lex, what about you? 829 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,240 So. This isn't what you wanted me to 830 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:19,880 say at all because I'm not answering the question 831 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,920 correctly, but I would like customization or just options 832 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,760 that make my pets interact practice anymore. 833 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,800 That is one thing in Final Fantasy Online that like the joy 834 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,400 that it brings me when I'm running around and I realize 835 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,680 I've had something on my shoulder. 836 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,000 I'm like that baby or like you would a pet one and actually 837 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,560 moves like yes, 100% that. There's that one that they did 838 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,920 on the like sale thingy that does climb on your shoulder. 839 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,960 I just think hunters would love that if like whenever you did an 840 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,480 emotion, your pet reacted to that same emotion. 841 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,400 So you're doing like slash chair and like your fox just runs 842 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,200 around you and does like it's a little an emotion and stuff. 843 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,880 Hunters would love that. I don't even care if that's 844 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,280 considered not answering the question. 845 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,440 I think that's great for character customization. 846 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,960 I think that's a big win there, Lex. 847 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,360 I meant little pets but actually I like that one even more. 848 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,240 I think that you're like hunter. Pets should 100% also be 849 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,320 interacting with you. Or Warlock, you know, Warlock 850 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,560 doesn't roar and your demon behind uses like it's just like 851 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,800 look back at your MP, like come on, Steve, what's that? 852 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,800 There's a lot of things that would just bring it in so that 853 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:32,680 yeah, that would be cool. And then for me, just to give us 854 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:41,920 our last one, I would say that that I would love for animations 855 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:49,760 to sort of linger in your idol. They did this in Legion where 856 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,920 depending on what weapon you had, you had different idol 857 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,240 animation. So like you had like the water 858 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:59,240 that was around you, if you were a resto shaman or little nature 859 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,280 that would come up if you were a druid and so forth. 860 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,440 Animations like that just to like lend to your, your 861 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,120 character would be great as well. 862 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:16,320 But even just changing voice lines so that again, I just, I 863 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:22,840 don't like that if you are a mag car or male body type or body 864 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,800 type 2 or 1, like you just have the exact same voice and exact 865 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,320 same lines, different lines that you could select and be like, 866 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,240 this is my voice in in there. And like, this one's a little 867 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,560 more grouchy or this one's a little more playful, and that 868 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,960 sort of stuff would be fantastic anyways. 869 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,480 Go back to old Blizzard world where you just get the interns 870 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,400 in and have them do a bunch of voice lines you like. 871 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,720 Pick from these. Would be would be definitely 872 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:53,200 against a lot of union stuff, but we'll leave that for a 873 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,520 different episode. With that said, we are going to 874 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,800 call this a short episode because people have loved ones 875 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,480 to see or you know, chili to make if you're me. 876 00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,120 Either way, we're all going to feel warm inside. 877 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,080 And so until next time guys, may all your hits be crits.