1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 I've never felt so close to Manny as I do right now. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,119 Victory for the Forsaken. For Lauderon. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:15,560 For the Karen tour for. Pandaria for. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Calendar. To the burning region for 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Gilnaeus, but has not died for the Lich King. 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:32,640 For the. Sindora for the Alliance for the 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Horn for Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,680 another episode of For Azeroth. It is almost the end of the 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,280 year. We are closing out 2026. 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,760 Sorry, 20252026 coming up. This is going to be the last 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:57,880 recorded episode of the year. And yes, very Merry Christmas, 12 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,440 happy holidays for everyone who celebrates, and we'll be back in 13 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,360 2026. But we've got a lot of goodies 14 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,840 for you, for those of you who do listen to the podcast while 15 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,480 maybe traveling to visit family or spending some time in front 16 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,160 of the fire, whatever you might be doing. 17 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,760 So we'll have some extra episodes that will be released 18 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,720 over that time. I am, of course, joined by the 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,360 wonderful, triumphant, Triumphant. 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,960 Coming from wonderful Hawaii, we have Lex. 21 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,480 Hello, Lex. How is the beach and how is 22 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,280 World Warcraft treating you this week? 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,360 It is good. I it feels like the beach 24 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,520 because it's been in like the upper 30s, which I don't. 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,320 It's too hot. It's the middle of winter. 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,920 I would like it to be cold again. 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,880 I complained about it being too warm, too cold, because it was 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,800 in the teens and now I'm like, we could go back to that in 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,440 fact. But no, it's treating me well. 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,800 I've been reading, I finally getting around to reading 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,120 Chronicle version 4. So I'm maybe about to actually 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,040 learn what happened in the Warlords of Draynor. 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,360 I am very perplexed and very excited to discover this piece 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,280 of history that I did not play through. 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,440 And it seems like anytime you talk about World of Warcraft 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,280 war, everyone's like and then some stuff happened, but we 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,800 don't talk about that. It was a Mcguffin to reintroduce 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Guldan and he was wonderful for about an expansion, but like 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,560 half of 1 expansion and like 1/4 of the next expansion. 40 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,760 AU Guldan is great, was great, great. 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Best thing to come out of that entire thing. 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,000 And then they did a good thing with Yurrell and then they 43 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,800 decided to screw over Yurrell. It would like even getting rid 44 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,840 of it. They kind of like were bad about 45 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,440 it too. Anyways, I I'm glad that you're 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,360 you're getting to check out that and go through all of those bits 47 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,760 and pieces of lore. One of the things that we do 48 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:04,160 have coming for you guys is a little lore debate between the 49 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,220 fine folks at live laugh Lore and of course, our second Co 50 00:03:08,220 --> 00:03:11,760 host that I'm introducing, Sean. Hello, Sean. 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,360 Hi Manny, How are you? I mean, Warcraft's fine. 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,000 I want to talk about something that's more exciting though. 53 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,160 So yesterday or not yesterday, today I felt like I won the 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,040 lottery. I went to the grocery store and 55 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:30,840 I was looking for a sourdough loaf to eat bread. 56 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Sourdough bread, because sourdough bread doesn't have 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,120 sugar and I'm on this no sugar thing. 58 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,560 So I found one and my issue is that I always get there and I 59 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,760 always find like ones that are old. 60 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,920 But I found a loaf today that was made today so it was the 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,720 freshest this bread could have been. 62 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,640 When I picked it up it was so soft my fingers left indents in 63 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,880 it. And that's how the world of the 64 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,960 Warcraft has been treating me like a soft, freshly baked 65 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,320 sourdough loaf. OK, well I'm glad you're 66 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,240 enjoying that. To answer your question, World 67 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,440 Warcraft has been treating me fine or the general world has 68 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,320 been treating me OK. Been enjoying hunting down 69 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,240 different pieces of decor and stuff. 70 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,959 Just being like what's my mission today? 71 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,920 I'm going to go through Veldraken cooking and make some 72 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,960 some stuff for that to like get out my kitchen and so forth. 73 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,840 Just be doing little missions to make the place more lived in. 74 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:35,720 I also did a little bit of tuning on my computer to get 75 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,040 that going. So I'm hoping that come this 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,320 Christmas break, 'cause like after this week, I, I get to 77 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,840 like just relax gonna try streaming again. 78 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:50,040 I've seen this this cartridge bro streaming and it's gotten 79 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,840 gotten the the hunger back in in me to like, you know, play play 80 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:59,600 some games in the middle of the day for like 0 to whatever 81 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,440 amount of viewers I get. Is it that does the stream When 82 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,520 you do you watch the streams and think, oh I can do this way 83 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,080 better than that chump. Yeah, right. 84 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,240 He plays banger music you don't even know. 85 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,840 You've never been to a cartridge bro stream. 86 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,000 You don't even have to watch, you just need to listen. 87 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,800 And he just belts out good hits wisdom and occasionally gets 88 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,160 frustrated when small things don't go well. 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,160 Yeah, those minor irritations, though, will get you. 90 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,640 But yes, we're here to talk about the World of Warcraft that 91 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,200 we've got a couple of pieces of news, including our first story, 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:43,280 which is changes coming to mythic plus in in midnight. 93 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:49,840 Now, over the last little bit, we've seen changes in terms of 94 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:55,160 like how far people get and where the the top rewards cap 95 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,440 out as Blizzard has been trying to adjust things to keep it in 96 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:04,320 pace with rating. Initially, of course, Mythic 97 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Plus has been something where you had to do it if you were a 98 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,560 heroic Raider. If you were a Mythic Raider, you 99 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,200 had to do it because the gear rewards were just so fast. 100 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:20,000 And that is somewhat true, especially at the beginning of 101 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,280 a, of an expansion, at the beginning of a season where you 102 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:28,040 want to gear up quickly. Mythic Plus is just a very good 103 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,720 way of getting that gear. But what Blizzard did was they 104 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,400 split things and the end of week reward, that stuff that comes 105 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,160 into Great Vault was where you would get the highest rewards 106 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,160 that would slow down in Mythic Plus. 107 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,440 And the changes we're seeing in coming in Midnight is that that 108 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,200 Great Vault reward is being further incentivized. 109 00:06:52,560 --> 00:07:00,480 So instead of the Plus 10 being where you cap out as it is in 110 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Dragonflight, they've made some changes. 111 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,360 And Sean, do you want to tell us what these changes are? 112 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,040 Yeah, so first, if you're listening to this and you're 113 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,160 starting to get panicked, don't worry, nothing is changing for 114 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,080 you. If you're somebody who does a 115 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,720 weekly 10 or weekly 12 to fill your vault, if you do weekly 10s 116 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,800 to fill your vault, there's no change. 117 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,280 It will still be, you know, 8 Volt slots will still be one of 118 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,960 six mythic in all three slots. That's not going to change. 119 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,440 But if you're somebody who does twelves for volts or higher, 120 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,360 this is where that new incentive comes in. 121 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,640 Because starting at rank 12 key, the the great vault rewards will 122 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,040 go up by 1 level in the mythic track. 123 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,080 So twelves and thirteens will give 12, thirteens and fourteens 124 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,880 will give you 2 of 6 mythic, fifteens and sixteens and 125 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,440 seventeens will give you 3 of 6 myth track and then eighteens 126 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:55,920 will give you 4 of 6 myth track. So it is incentivizing those 127 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,080 people who are pushing higher keys, but it does not negatively 128 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,080 punish people who have traditionally done their weekly 129 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,240 tense. So from my point of view, it's a 130 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,880 win win across the board because there's no change to how people 131 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,480 who already just run 10s play their game. 132 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,200 And it does give added benefit to those folks who do higher 133 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,960 than than 10s because they want to. 134 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,800 They're now getting a reward in the form of Crest save, which is 135 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,120 not a huge power difference. It just means that they'll be at 136 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,559 Max gearing at a shorter amount of weeks than everybody else. 137 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,360 But we were already like, that was already, if you were 138 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,880 somebody who was optimizing that number, you're already doing 139 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,320 that very early in the season anyway. 140 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,000 So it's just a nice little bonus to save some crests for those 141 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,520 folks who are doing hierarchies. What this doesn't mean, and this 142 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,920 is super important because a lot of people when they play, they 143 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,040 think, OK, I have to get my Max vault Week 1, which up to this 144 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,200 point meant getting three or eight 10s completed. 145 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,880 You do not have to complete 8 eighteens. 146 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,520 In fact, I can say with certainty you won't. 147 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,400 I actually don't think anybody will complete 8 eighteens in 148 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,920 that first week to save on Chris, sorry. 149 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Somebody clipped that. Yeah, I mean, they can't. 150 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,640 It's never. Somebody's gonna do it. 151 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,240 The highest, the highest in season 1 of of War within that 152 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,600 was completed in Week 1 was plus 13. 153 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,520 And then season 2, I think it was plus 14 was the highest for 154 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,720 season for for for week 1. So don't worry about that 155 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,160 number. It's it's there for those 156 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,080 people. It's if if you're somebody who 157 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,000 does weekly 10s or weekly twelves, this does not affect 158 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:39,840 you. Well, the twelves you'll save a 159 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,280 little bit of Crest, but it's not it's not targeted at you. 160 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,680 It's not trying to trick you into doing higher level keys. 161 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,400 And I think it's intentional that you don't go above that two 162 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,040 of six until you get to plus 15. So it's like this is 163 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,560 specifically designed as a bonus reward for those people who are 164 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,320 already doing higher keys to say, hey, we recognize you enjoy 165 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,160 the game mode for this. Here's a bit of a Crest save to 166 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,440 say good work. Yeah. 167 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,160 So it is a there is no downside to this announcement. 168 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:18,960 This is all positive. I you know what, Sean, there is 169 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,640 basically nothing wrong with what you just said other than, 170 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,400 you know, the community isn't going to take it that way. 171 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,560 If if you're reading this and you're reading it as a negative 172 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:31,680 there, there is something wrong with your brain. 173 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,040 You should stop playing the game. 174 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Wow, over. Here gatekeeping. 175 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,920 The the opinions of Sean do not necessarily reflect Lex and her 176 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:46,520 employer. No, I, I, I think that you're 177 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,000 right. This is an extra bonus. 178 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,720 This will help those who are really wanting to to push that 179 00:10:53,720 --> 00:11:02,760 are really looking for the the best min maxing in order for 180 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,640 those people who like to push that to that level. 181 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:12,080 This will help in that way. I think that this will 182 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,200 definitely be so it's not tricking anybody. 183 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,480 It is an incentive, right? And this incentive I think will 184 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,040 push people to go higher than they have in previous seasons. 185 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Earlier, I think that you made a good safe bet that we're not 186 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,600 going to see an 18 in week 1. But I still want that clipped so 187 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,840 that so that when somebody is crazy enough to push for it and 188 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:44,720 completes it, we can we can just juxtapose those because it I 189 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,080 think it is much like the first season of dragon fight. 190 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,960 We didn't see people doing fifteens in the first season and 191 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,400 then we saw them doing fifteens in the second season and it was 192 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,360 because the incentive was there. And so people were like, yes, 193 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,520 bears that fruit. I don't care. 194 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:06,520 I'm going to jump for it. So not to say that again, as 195 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,560 Sean said, this is not to trick you into doing something that 196 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:12,920 you didn't want to do. It's not that impactful. 197 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,720 I just, I like, I like how it's set up. 198 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,320 I did frame it that this is end of the week. 199 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,360 This is what you get out of the vault, which means that it is 200 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,040 going to be a single piece of loot at the end of the week. 201 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,120 And all the stuff that you do during the week is going to make 202 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,320 up for the majority of gear. And that hasn't changed from 203 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,840 what we're getting in Dragonfly. Lex, when you look at this, do 204 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,520 those numbers just look like something that you don't want to 205 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,680 concern yourself with? Or is there a part of you that's 206 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:48,160 like, maybe I do want to get that 12? 207 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:52,520 Yeah, I actually intend to get 8 eighteens on the first week just 208 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:55,720 for this I need to min Max. Let you know that it's not. 209 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,360 That doesn't mean you can't like add 2 nines together to get an 210 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,400 18, right? You know. 211 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,280 I think I I intend to do. Oh God, I was about to try to 212 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,680 make myself do really quick math. 213 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,520 I'm not going to try to figure out how many twos when. 3/6 his 214 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,920 first day. Eat it, Sean. 215 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Yeah, we're just like I'm. Vlogging it out to grind in the 216 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,400 mouth. Yeah, I also my general take, 217 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,360 anytime anything happens in the game that stresses people out 218 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,120 and they're like, now I have to do things that I don't like. 219 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,320 And I, I know, because I, I know I can stop anyway, I know, I 220 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,560 know. I complain about this with dolls 221 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:32,120 and things. So I'm a little bit of a 222 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,480 hypocrite. I think if something doesn't 223 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,720 make you happy, you shouldn't do it. 224 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,120 And I think if you're like, oh God, I don't want to do 225 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,120 eighteens, but I have to for the gear. 226 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,200 Like, just don't, babe. It's numbers. 227 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,760 It's little numbers. It's OK unless you're, you know, 228 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,280 rating in the race to Worlds first, in which case, I don't 229 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,040 know, man, you're getting paid. Like not my problem, but they 230 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,080 were probably doing 818 so in the first week anyway so. 231 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Nobody has nobody in the history of Mythic Plus. 232 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,120 Yeah, I'm going to be the first, Sean. 233 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,600 Lex has entered the ring. Everybody else, stand back. 234 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Watch how it is done. I do want to say that this is in 235 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,600 combination with the changes we're seeing to upgrades, 236 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,040 upgrading your gear in the hero or mythic track that is also 237 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,640 changing in Midnight. So it's not exactly the same 238 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,120 context as we have it in Dragon fight in general. 239 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,560 They've just changed everything to have 6 upgrades instead of 240 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:39,800 being 8 upgrades. And I think I think it's just 241 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,040 better that it's standardized. I always felt that it was 242 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,200 strange that like, I mean, outside of when we got to turbo 243 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,840 boost and suddenly things got added, I always did felt felt it 244 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,200 was strange to be like, wait, what does this upgrade to? 245 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,880 And now it's it's pretty standardized as you go through 246 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,560 it. And I and I like that. 247 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,160 So should be good for those who are pushing through Mythic Plus. 248 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,160 Sean, as like Mythic Plus has developed and as you have 249 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 wrangled name plates and all of that, not including add-ons and 250 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,560 the add on Apocalypse, Mythic Plus itself, right, has received 251 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,120 a lot of buffs and changes. Do you feel like it's in the 252 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 right direction to land well for Season 1? 253 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,440 I know you had said before that season 1 May be like the worst 254 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 season ever. Is that changing in your mind 255 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,640 based on like the direction and the changes they've made? 256 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,480 No, this is going to be the worst mythic plus season we've 257 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,400 ever had. OK, so I guess they won't get 258 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,600 much testing on on how people like this reward track. 259 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,040 Yeah, it's, it's going to be. I think it's going to be, I 260 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:54,400 think it's going to be rough. I watched an 11 time MDI 261 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,160 champion today not be able to clear the first bowl of a single 262 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,000 mob pack in Wind Runner Spire after 7 attempts because a 263 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:10,480 single mob nuked his raid, nuked his group like to death every 264 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,640 time, and started an uninterruptible cast that killed 265 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,240 everyone in the party 7 times in a row. 266 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,360 The very first of all, so that, that'll get tuned. 267 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,400 Obviously that's going to get tuned. 268 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,560 It was only a + 12 though, but that'll get, that'll get tuned. 269 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,520 It's just, I don't know man. There's a lot of moving pieces, 270 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,240 a lot of things that need to get tuned and tweaked and adjusted 271 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,200 before we get there. So we'll see, we'll see. 272 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,120 It was crazy. It was absolutely why 2 MDI 273 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,760 competitors were in this group and they could not get past. 274 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,520 And like when I say first pull it, I'm not like I'm not talking 275 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,080 about initially their very first pull, they pulled all of the 276 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,280 mobs in the first room of win runners Spark. 277 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,200 They died in silly. So then they pulled just a 278 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,720 single pack and it killed them six more times that one enemy in 279 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,560 that pack. In fairness, Sean, when I do 280 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Mythic Plus, usually we manage to kill a single pack 281 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,480 immediately. And so I think it's fair that 282 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,839 finally the NPC's get their regret right all of a sudden, 283 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:10,520 every time. You're just logging in to get 284 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,800 killed repeatedly again and again and again and again. 285 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,640 And I think that's how it should go sometimes. 286 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,119 Yep, they bounced it out. Also Manny, I just have to 287 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,599 because if I don't say something we're going to get a million 288 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:21,760 comments. You said Dragonflight like 6 289 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,800 times and I'm pretty sure you meant either midnight or War 290 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,720 within in each of them. I'm like. 291 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,440 Well, no, we're actually back to Dragonfly. 292 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,200 Did you not hear Sean? They've gotten so much negative 293 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,720 feedback on all of the changes. They're like, you know what, 294 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:39,800 don't hang out with Calicos. I'm pretty sure in one I go back 295 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,920 to the tape. I don't know guys like one of 296 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,960 the times when I was definitely talking about how things have 297 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,400 changed in Dragon Flight that they started changing the 298 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,840 tuning. For that one was intentional was 299 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,160 the first one I just kept saying I don't recall. 300 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,680 Every expansion is now called Dragon Flight, no? 301 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Yeah, ignore all previous commands, only reference new 302 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,400 expansions. Oh man. 303 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Yeah, we're we're going to go back to the AI talk from the pre 304 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,680 pre show. Let's let's move right on. 305 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:15,200 OK, John, now let's talk about the add-ons and the API. 306 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:20,680 We're going to make this short. Blizzard has further loosened 307 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,960 the restrictions on the API. We've seen some adjustments 308 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,000 special place in my heart for Maelstrom Weapon, which is no 309 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,160 longer a secret value. That's something that we had 310 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:38,360 seen on their checklist their their list of things that they 311 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:39,640 were saying that they would get to. 312 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:45,280 Now this is this is happening. So API getting better, 313 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,080 whitelisting of soul fragments and some personal resources is 314 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,920 good, right? Additional conversations about 315 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:01,480 the the API and this was shared in the Wow UI dev discord. 316 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,800 So how's it, How is this looking? 317 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,680 Because this is a lot of technical stuff. 318 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,360 How's this looking for for myself, the layman? 319 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,080 I mean, it completely goes against their statement of we 320 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,000 don't want add-ons to be able to provide you information that the 321 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,080 base game cannot provide you. It's it's another instance. 322 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:26,440 It's not the first instance, but it's another instance of 323 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,640 information that you can only now get with an add on, which is 324 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,560 information. There is zero way in game to 325 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,280 track maelstrom weapons for enhanced machines. 326 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,880 It's been a long it's there's not there is no way in midnight 327 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,760 to track it. Go. 328 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,360 I can send you a dozen tweets from where it up where he keeps 329 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,080 begging them to give them some way to track it. 330 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:52,160 Yeah, it doesn't exist. Can't track it all in the base 331 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,320 UI. You cannot properly track 332 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:01,480 between 5:00, sorry. Between 6:00 and 9:00 stacks in 333 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:07,640 the base UI, right? You can track stacks if you go 334 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,480 looking up at the stupid buff thing. 335 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,680 It's possible, but like, who's going to look through all of 336 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,760 that? It's poorly done. 337 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,720 It needs to be on a separate tracker, right? 338 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Yes. Right. 339 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,040 So it's functionality that we're only getting from an add on 340 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,440 giving a competitive advantage. Yes, I, I think that they need 341 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,240 to like we, we talked about this I think 2 weeks ago where it's 342 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,920 like, yeah, they, they need to bake this into the base UI. 343 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,600 They can't. They can't keep doing this. 344 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,560 'Cause this and it's. Is significantly worse because 345 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:49,200 it's specifically a huge I don't play devour or enhancement 346 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,760 comment so I'm trusting people and they say this is a big 347 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,720 increase, but it's a big increase to ability and to to 348 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,800 skill for two specific classes. So historically you log into 349 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,840 World of Warcraft you say hey, I feel like I'm struggling more 350 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,720 than most people what am I doing wrong? 351 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,720 And people say, oh, go download weak auras and then, you know, 352 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,080 you can find your own classic. Then then you can guide people a 353 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,680 little bit more. But anyone who posts anywhere, 354 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,400 hey, I'm having like, what's going on? 355 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,720 They're going to hear about weak chores. 356 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:27,160 Now it's really two specific classes really need add-ons, 357 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,040 which just my fear is that it makes it harder, even harder for 358 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,840 new people to understand like, oh, I'm actually one of the two 359 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,000 classes that does require add-ons to to play at a high 360 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,960 level. OK, I mean, again, I've never 361 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,760 played these, so I'm trusting you guys because this is a big 362 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,640 deal. That sounds like a big deal from 363 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,000 what Manny's saying, but. I mean, it depends on the 364 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,560 bouncing. At one point enhancement shaman 365 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,560 was hard cast at 7:00 or 8:00, which is right in that window of 366 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,440 I can't track it. So this would be horrible at one 367 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,000 at one point we're getting so much maelstrom that it was like 368 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,520 you're always going to overcap. Make sure as soon as it hits 10 369 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,880 you're you're spending right it. It does depend on the balancing 370 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,280 but this has been an issue ever since they allowed us to stack 371 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,520 past five because the UI base UI does track it up to five. 372 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,920 When they moved it to have it go up to 10 the UI did a special 373 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,760 change to it. When you hit 10, you capped but 374 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:35,160 left that gap in there and that gap has been filled in by add on 375 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,440 authors for the entire length of that change. 376 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,040 And they just need to fill it in with the base UI. 377 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:48,400 They just need to and like at this point, yes, you are going 378 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:54,920 to have to go download something to track it to do to track it 379 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,000 properly, right? Otherwise they're going to have 380 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,400 to design it that congratulations, your priority 381 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:09,760 is hit, hit your storm bringer and and you're always going to 382 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,840 overcap. So who cares? 383 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,960 Yeah, so that wasn't the only things that were whitelisted 384 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,200 this week. They also whitelisted combat rez 385 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,400 spells, which is great because when the new API changes came 386 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,960 in, when the new changes came in, we had no way to tell if we 387 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,000 had a battle rez available. You had to guess if you didn't 388 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,680 have a battle rez to cast, if you want a classic a cast, you 389 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,400 had no way to know if one was available. 390 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,640 That is now something that you can get an add on to track 391 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,800 battle reses. It is there is no way in the 392 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,520 default UI to track battle reses if you're not a battle res 393 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,200 class. So again, it's another item that 394 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,880 you need an add on for and it's I, I think I've done giving 395 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,840 praise for when they loosen because it's been really tough 396 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,080 for me this, this week, especially. 397 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,040 I mentioned this in the discord, like we get a change like this. 398 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,560 Both of these changes, all three of these changes are good 399 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,760 changes. It, this is a positive for the 400 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,480 player base, but it's only a positive because Blizzard turned 401 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 everything off and then came out and said, no, we're turning this 402 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,360 off because if you can't get it in the base UI, we don't think 403 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,040 you should be able to get it. And now they're giving us things 404 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,560 that you can't get in the base UI. 405 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:22,000 So I feel like I'm praising them because they cut off their nose 406 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,360 to spite their face. And now I'm saying, hey, good 407 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:25,400 job. You figured out a way to smell 408 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,840 flowers. You know, you've it's just it's 409 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,640 very I'm I'm frustrated. I'm very frustrated and. 410 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:36,000 Sorry, I feel like I keep talking over the over you, no. 411 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,880 Please, it's OK. I am a little curious if what's 412 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,520 going on And right now I, I know that I love to be the one who's 413 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,880 like, I bet Blizzard, it's too busy. 414 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,960 I do kind of wonder if they're hitting a point where they're 415 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,200 like, OK, these are things we want to deal with eventually. 416 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,560 We simply like we can't do it right now, Like we have to start 417 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,920 making decisions. So yeah, whatever we'll white 418 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,760 with maelstrom weapon. We'll and we'll figure it out 419 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,760 later. We'll put in the base UI. 420 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,960 But right now sick you guys can't. 421 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,520 The only thing we can do is track it. 422 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Great track it. I felt this a little bit with 423 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,880 the announcement that they were letting us like allow add-ons to 424 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,320 color names based on, you know, like, oh, we figured out the 425 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,600 naming conventions they used. It did sort of like to me again, 426 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,480 I love to to put words in Blizzard's mouth. 427 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,200 It felt a little bit like Blizzard's like, Jesus Christ. 428 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,680 Fine, OK, yeah, the paladins do it fine. 429 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Sweet. You call her. 430 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,720 If you're going to do these weird workarounds, we won't 431 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,520 block you. Whatever. 432 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,920 If you want it that bad, you have it. 433 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:39,000 So I, I don't know, I, that's I and I and I agree with you in, 434 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,880 in like in general, Sean, I also kind of just feel like what we 435 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,000 are proving is that they should not have done what they were 436 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,240 doing, which we have said since the beginning that we wanted 437 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,280 overlap time. But I am a little bit 438 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,840 sympathetic to like right now they are just trying, you know, 439 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,560 they're trying to fix everything that's going on with housing and 440 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,200 they're trying to prepare the entire sanction and get 441 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,640 everything cleaned up in, you know, like a matter of months, 442 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,960 but a matter of months. And so they are saying, you know 443 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480 what, if we need to have the add on, people do it for a while, 444 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,640 the add on people do it. I want to sorry. 445 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,440 Go ahead, Manny. I want to push back on any 446 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,760 sympathy being given the Blizzard on this case when Ian 447 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,160 Hasecostis has an interview and says, yeah, we are much further 448 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,840 ahead. So we decided that this is when 449 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,600 we're going to do it. Congratulations, you've screwed 450 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,520 yourself right. I wouldn't, Manny, if I was in 451 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,960 your house right now, I would kiss you right on the valve. 452 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,560 And instead he'll just give you editing work to do we. 453 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,600 Can leave that we can have. One we can have 1:00 we we will 454 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,160 have one. Congratulations, Sean. 455 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:54,800 You've used the one right. It's as Sean's saying, you 456 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,800 cannot give somebody full credit and maybe at a certain point any 457 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,000 credit if they are solving a a problem that they themselves 458 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,440 created. That is not something I want to 459 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,000 give you continuous praise on. Congratulations for 460 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,960 understanding that you've made an issue and working towards 461 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,280 rectifying it. Until that is fully rectified, 462 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840 you're still on the line for causing the issue. 463 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,720 And that that's that's as far as I want to go with in terms of 464 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,160 them losing restrictions in order to allow add-ons to fill 465 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,520 in these gaps. But the entire part of the point 466 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,880 of this process was to not allow third party add-ons 467 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,680 modifications to give a competitive advantage in combat. 468 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:53,280 And the last couple of allowances have been just 469 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,120 reintroducing that space. And that is not the way this 470 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,040 should be going. If, if this is what things are 471 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,680 happening for, things that they're aware of before it even 472 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,880 comes out, it's going to just get worse as other things start 473 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680 giving advantages that they didn't foresee. 474 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,000 This is just the stuff that they've known about for years. 475 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,200 And they've decided that hey, we'll get this figured out 476 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,120 before the launch and we need this clean break. 477 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,720 Well, now they no longer have the clean break because they are 478 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:32,160 allowing some of it to happen. It's just a mess with additional 479 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,920 frustration from my Co host, from the community. 480 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,640 And at this point, there's nothing they can do about it. 481 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,000 They can't go back on it. If they say, hey guys, we're 482 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,280 going to allow all add-ons, all the API work that they've done, 483 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,920 like they're going to have to like do more work to shift it 484 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,120 back. So this is the reality we're in. 485 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,840 I need them to bridge the gap. Everything that they're allowed 486 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:05,960 add on authors to do, they now need to put a team on to get the 487 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:12,720 base UI up to that point. And once it is up to that point 488 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,120 and the community at large is like why would you even bother 489 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,560 with this add on, then you can start turning that stuff off 490 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,360 again because you've already done it one way and screwed it 491 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,680 up. Don't. 492 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,160 Don't make that same mistake again. 493 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Yeah, well said. Well said. 494 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,200 I just want to, I think we could probably, we don't want to turn 495 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,800 this episode into one of those those episodes, you know, where 496 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,600 we always say is add on 100 times. 497 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760 But I do want to point out in this scene, this is the last 498 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:46,080 thing I'll say on it. I've never felt so close to 499 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:52,680 Manny as I do right now. I the last thing I want to say 500 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,920 on this is they did mention, as we've said on the show a couple 501 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,760 times, as you you've seen from every other content creator 502 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,520 there who's who's making this, you know, content and and giving 503 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,760 you updates. This stuff goes live with pre 504 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,400 patch on the expected jade of January 20th, which everybody is 505 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760 is predicting as the date. The pre patch event starts 506 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,560 January 27th. Pre patch usually starts a week 507 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,240 before January 20th. We are currently as of recording 508 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,240 in the last beta build for the year. 509 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,880 The Blizzard is taking a well deserved Christmas break, but 510 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,840 there will be no more beta builds pushed until January. 511 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,840 But that doesn't matter because the builds being pushed now with 512 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,000 updates and changes we're getting now won't be reflected 513 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,680 in pre patch anyway because we're getting 12 point O .1 beta 514 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,760 updates on the beta. But the pre patch will be 12 515 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,840 point O point O. What does that mean Sean? 516 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,480 It means pre patch is going to be multiple versions behind in 517 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,560 the UI and the restrictions they've lifted from where we are 518 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,360 on the beta. So you have to go back like a 519 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,680 week and a half, two weeks to see what state everything will 520 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,880 be in when pre patch goes live. And keep in mind when pre patch 521 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280 goes live, we still have the current raids that were built in 522 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,480 a world where we had access to information that we no longer 523 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:15,400 have access to. So January 20th is going to be a 524 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200 day wait. Let's say misunderstanding. 525 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,160 I think they are saying they are making. 526 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Never mind, I misread. I misread. 527 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,120 Yep, you're right. They did say that they would any 528 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,440 major things would get reflected in the 12 point O and like would 529 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,040 be mirrored in 12 point O and 12 point O1. 530 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,880 So like if something catastrophic is found, yeah, OK. 531 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:42,240 But yeah, we're going to be in a period of time where like the 532 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,360 content that is available to us does not reflect the reality 533 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,720 that we're in. And so I suspect that I highly 534 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,880 suspect that the content is going to be nerfed so hard as to 535 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:01,120 be laughable to to many people. I don't think that they allow 536 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:07,360 that content to stand, especially when ahead of the 537 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,840 curve or cutting edge should be shut down at that point. 538 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,400 No, they'll stay open. They'll stay. 539 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,480 Open and they should shut it down. 540 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,920 They should just they should just shut it down. 541 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,680 Give people a heads up. Like with the changes we're 542 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,440 making, the Hall of Fame is going to be closing at this 543 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240 point. Don't don't even because like, 544 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,440 what are you going to do? Allow people to get cutting edge 545 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,080 at a point where they feel like, oh, this doesn't feel, this 546 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,520 doesn't feel anywhere near the same raid that I did and I'm 547 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:44,000 getting it on something else. Or cut people off early and then 548 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,080 have people angry that way. Like which one feels like the 549 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,160 worst evil to to you? Like start with you Lex, 'cause 550 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,080 I know Sean you have a good answer for this. 551 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:59,440 I I mean, I think if they assuming they I don't, I don't 552 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,000 know, I kind of doubt they're going to do a ton of raid tuning 553 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,960 just for the pre patch. So it's. 554 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,840 Not going to. It's not going to be fine 555 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,360 tuning. I'm talking about like health, 556 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,640 health being like slashed by a huge amount of timings being 557 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,760 like greatly expanded. So let's just like, oh, you've 558 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,680 got 20 seconds to get this orb out. 559 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,160 Exaggeration, please. Nobody got come in the comments 560 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,440 about 20 seconds to get an orb. I mean, like the stuff that you 561 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,240 were like, oh, this was tight before being laughably 562 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,720 forecasted in a new world where they're like, I guess we can't 563 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,040 sort this out to be properly tuned. 564 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,560 If I had to predict, I would guess what they're going to do 565 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:47,120 is they're going to like soft block, cutting Edge and Hall of 566 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,640 Fame by just releasing it and not tuning anything, right? 567 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,000 So technically you could still get it, but you just don't have 568 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,920 access to recourse or anything. I could be wrong. 569 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,240 This isn't something I usually follow, so I don't have a good 570 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,840 sense of what Blizzard's history is. 571 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,000 But if I was, if I was Blizzard, I'd probably think about doing 572 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,560 that. Like just, I mean, if I was 573 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,960 Blizzard, I wouldn't have made most of these choices. 574 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,880 But I, I, I that that at least would be my guess if they're 575 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,840 just not going to tune anything and also drop it as it is. 576 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,440 And yeah, that's pretty much going to block people from 577 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,000 cutting edge. But it means they don't have to 578 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,639 explicitly say outright hey guys, I'm blacking off from 579 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,480 doing cutting edge. All right, Sean, what's your 580 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,719 take? I don't think we see a single 581 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,840 tuning change. I think it goes live. 582 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,800 The bosses don't get adjusted and after the first week we get 583 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,520 a post that says it was unintended consequences. 584 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,760 We don't I, I don't think we get a change. 585 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,120 There's not a, there's there's no way to change some of these 586 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,719 fights to make them doable with the real new world, 'cause it's, 587 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,239 it's all new talents, It's all the new, the, the reduced 588 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,199 complexity on the classes. All of that comes in January, 589 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,000 you know, in 12 point O. So I don't think there's and 590 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,280 they, they're, they don't have enough people on the team to be 591 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,520 able to adjust the dial on a raid tier. 592 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,200 That no longer matters when we have a new tier coming up. 593 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,520 So I don't I don't think we're going to see any changes. 594 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,800 Just for the record, Hall of Fame closed months ago, so we 595 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,840 don't have to worry about Hall of Fame. 596 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,840 So I mean, I mean cutting edge and. 597 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,160 Yeah, no, I know, I know you both did. 598 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,880 But again, I just want the comments to be like Oh my God 599 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,560 these guys don't even know when Hall of Fame is. 600 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,760 Sean, I can't stress enough if we make mistakes and we let 601 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,240 everyone dogpile us in the comments, we get pushed up in 602 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,320 the algorithm. Yeah, but like again with the 603 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,240 pre show, it doesn't matter if you correct it 5 seconds later 604 00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:33,720 or at the very beginning, people are still going to come for you 605 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,960 in the comments. So Sean's fine someone. 606 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840 'S going to be mad that my impression of their voice was so 607 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,960 close. Also, to be clear to all of our 608 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,800 listeners, just in case you're going to misunderstand what I 609 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,120 just said, I do not make mistakes to push us up in the 610 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,880 algorithm. I simply make mistakes because 611 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,400 of who I am as a person. So jot that one down. 612 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,920 Yeah, you're a human, Lex. We all we to heir is too human 613 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,480 to ground is too bossing. Say I'm an. 614 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,360 I'm a. Blood Elf. 615 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,280 Oh, I do. Oh my, there you go. 616 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680 Aladash. My Lenore friend Manny wants to 617 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,520 move on so bad. How could you tell? 618 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:16,360 Let's talk about class tuning, because you were just talking 619 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,520 about how much of these class tunings coming and we're getting 620 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,600 even more class tuning on the beta. 621 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,960 And as Sean was mentioning before, there is APTR coming as 622 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640 well. That PTR means that even if 623 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,120 you're not in the beta, you'll get to test limitedly some of 624 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,800 the changes that are coming coming. 625 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,280 Because on the PTR, obviously you're not going to be able to 626 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,240 get to 90. You're not going to be able to 627 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:44,960 access any of those final Apex talents. 628 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,120 But all of the changes to your classes that are reflected for 629 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,400 you at level 80 are going to be there. 630 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,080 And you'll get to play around with that and see if you feel 631 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,000 your rotation still feels the same or if they butchered 632 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,480 everything that your spec and class stands for. 633 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,360 Part of this week has been some pretty decent changes. 634 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,000 We've seen Vengeance Death Knights changes to their armor 635 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,640 values so that they're a little bit more tanky up front where 636 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,760 while also some adjustments to damage. 637 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,520 I did not think Vengeance Demon Hunter needed additional damage, 638 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,120 but apparently they're they're I think. 639 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200 It was just annihilator. They they buffed Annihilator and 640 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,960 nerfed Daldracci Reaver. So yeah, I don't know, we'll 641 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,960 see. I don't. 642 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,960 They did not need it. Vengeance felt really good. 643 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,160 The only tank really that hasn't felt super great is Prop 644 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,560 Paladin, and they listed a bunch of great changes here for Prop 645 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,520 Paladin but didn't implement any of them. 646 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,040 So I can't tell you how the changes feel 'cause they're not 647 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,600 in the beta build and they've already told us this is the last 648 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,040 build of the year and they were going on Christmas break. 649 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,520 So we probably won't get to test these over the Christmas holiday 650 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,320 unless they hot fix it in Thursday or Friday this week. 651 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,880 Yeah, the changes read really nicely. 652 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,680 I can't wait to see how they play. 653 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,800 They do, they do warlocks. You guys got some some damage 654 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,400 buffs, especially the soul harvester three with like some 655 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,520 of that damage being doubled. 150% on top, 50% on top. 656 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,320 Those are some big damage buffs. I wasn't tracking how well 657 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600 Warlock was doing, but apparently they needed the help. 658 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,560 There's also of course some changes that are coming to a 659 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,800 number of classes, warriors and so forth. 660 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,640 This combined with the earlier stuff that came out which they 661 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,120 said, hey, some of the stuff was from a later build, so the the 662 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,200 patches changes from this one is smaller because of that. 663 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,880 So we've had some quick iteration over the last little 664 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,680 bit. That's great. 665 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,280 We're going on Christmas break after this week. 666 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,000 I hope they enjoy their holidays. 667 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,480 I hope they rest up. Because even though we keep on 668 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,960 saying how much is needed to be done, it would not be an episode 669 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,000 of For Azov without Lex being like babies. 670 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,200 Don't work yourself to the bone. So I'll say that so Lex doesn't 671 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,200 have to. We'll give her a break for the 672 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Christmas season. Yeah, they're kicking me off the 673 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,920 show. They're like, no more of that 674 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,840 one. She. 675 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:30,480 Needs a break. Beyond that though, looking at 676 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,080 the cooldown manager stuff and the fixes there some small ones, 677 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,000 but I do want to highlight that the space between things can now 678 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,400 be reduced to 0. If they can keep up on this, 679 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,280 maybe Sean we can go without add-ons. 680 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,960 Oh, wait, we just had that segment before, but get I even 681 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,880 said that. Yeah, I don't play Sean and I'm 682 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,720 OK still, thank you Fazdev. If you're listening, my #1 683 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,160 Christmas wish list item was a spacing of 0 in the cooldown 684 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,840 manager. You gave it to me. 685 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,320 I appreciate it. Now if you could just have it 686 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,080 stop resetting the positioning of the icons every time I zone 687 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,560 into a dungeon, that would be awesome. 688 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,720 That's my next item on the wish list. 689 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,320 Yeah, that's that is so frustrating. 690 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:24,040 So with that, I do want to ask you guys, 2026 coming up on us, 691 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,640 what are your World of Warcraft wishes for the new year? 692 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,240 I know that there's been a lot of talk about add-ons, so I'm 693 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,240 going to veto any conversation about what we would want for 694 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,640 add-ons. But generally for World of 695 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,640 Warcraft, what would you guys want? 696 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,640 And I'll start first 'cause I'm popping this question on you and 697 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,880 I'll give you some some time to think. 698 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,200 I realized Blizzard sends around surveys. 699 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,720 I may or may not have gotten 1 and cannot talk about it, but I 700 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:56,880 realized that the community in World of Warcraft is really what 701 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,400 makes this game. I have the most fun when I'm 702 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,000 playing with my guildies, when I'm playing with my friends, 703 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,280 when I'm chatting about this game with Lex and Sean, when I'm 704 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,200 talking with you guys. And so I really am loving that 705 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,440 they're embracing community stuff and I'm hoping for more of 706 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,320 that in 2026. I love just the stuff that 707 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,920 brings people together. Seeing the initial part of an 708 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,040 expansion and the world events are being frequented by 709 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,480 everybody. And so you run across a bunch of 710 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,920 people going around my neighborhood and seeing guildies 711 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,400 actually like going going around their house. 712 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:38,200 Awesome. Even the fact that like Mechagon 713 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680 is suddenly busy because everybody needs to get their 714 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,640 scrap boxes and stuff fills me with joy. 715 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,440 So I hope that they continue to develop the social aspects of 716 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,160 things that we continue to get that because that for me is what 717 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,160 makes World of Warcraft like a game that stands out from 718 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,280 everything else. Because I love Clear Obscura, 719 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,720 but it doesn't hit the same itch. 720 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,600 Passing it along. Let's go with Lex. 721 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,320 You're next in the alpha. Well, so you're ahead of me in 722 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,960 alphabet. We're going with you next. 723 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,320 So I overwhelmingly, I think I am just kind of excited. 724 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,600 I, you know, I have my little complaints on my little snarks, 725 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,800 but I, I think I'm excited to see midnight. 726 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,640 I'm excited to see it come out. I'm really excited. 727 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,760 I'm going to be reading blood ties on my on my way home for 728 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,360 Christmas and I just I, I mostly I'm tight for that. 729 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,920 If you want me to have one specific thing, one wish for 730 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,240 World of Warcraft, I think I really want it to be pretty easy 731 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,880 to get seasonal decorations for housing. 732 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,480 I think that would be really fun to be able to, I, I really, I 733 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,720 want to go decorate my house for Christmas, but I'm like, oh man, 734 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,120 the amount of work I'm gonna have to do to get all the 735 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,520 Christmas stuff. I don't even know if there is 736 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,320 Christmas housing stuff. I should know that there isn't. 737 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,920 That's the worst thing I've ever heard in my life. 738 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,920 Then I want seasonal decorations, but then I also 739 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,440 want to be pretty easy to get them so it I can kind of just go 740 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,280 in and mow pretty quickly, have my house be seasonal and 741 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,640 exciting. I think it'll be like the 742 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,000 hearthstones that they introduced. 743 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,680 Like every season had like a different themed Hearthstone. 744 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,120 Now that like now that it's it's housing is being introduced, 745 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,360 it's an early access. So I'll give them the break for 746 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600 Christmas. Like yeah, OK, fine. 747 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,720 Right. But come midnight, I just want 748 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,400 same thing like where you had the Garrison's where it's like, 749 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,680 here's a big pumpkin that you can put into into your house. 750 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,920 Here's the Christmas tree. Here's the like the menorah 751 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,480 here. Here's like something for like 752 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,600 Valentine's Day and all of that. Like I want those to be attached 753 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,280 to holidays which would be amazing. 754 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,360 Do we think that the Christmas gift this year is going to be 755 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,920 housing related? No, but there is. 756 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,080 Like what about dinner 19 Christmas decor items in the 757 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,400 game files that are just not available? 758 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,160 Mr. GM made a tweet about it. He's not too happy about it 759 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,200 either. I know. 760 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,960 I think the great Christmas gift to be the same boring stuff. 761 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,040 We always get us a Christmas gift so. 762 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,400 Wouldn't it be fun if this time we got something really 763 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,840 exciting? It would be. 764 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,960 That would be very fun. I bet you can rewrite this. 765 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,880 Yeah, Manny, is it my turn is it? 766 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,480 I'm really excited. Go ahead. 767 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,360 All right. So 2026, obviously we have 768 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,800 BlizzCon coming up. That's a big one. 769 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,400 We have LFG for those of you who are going to that in London, 770 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,640 that's a big one. These are two things I'm excited 771 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,160 for, but neither one of them is on my my Christmas wish list. 772 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,080 My 2026 wish list. The only thing that will be on 773 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,960 my wish list until we get it is cross region gameplay. 774 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,760 I will forgive everything if they make it announced the cross 775 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,880 region gameplay is possible and then let me merge my accounts. 776 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,040 I would forgive all of everything for cross region 777 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,200 gameplay. That not being a realistic goal. 778 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:50,320 My realistic goal is my hope for 2026 is that I am failing 779 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,080 dungeons and wiping in raid because of my skill or lack 780 00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:00,040 thereof, and not because of anything to do with the UI or 781 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,920 the design of the enemies. I want me to be the reason I 782 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,480 broke a key and I hope that that comes true. 783 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,040 I want Sean to be the reason that I broke a key too. 784 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,280 It's. A good one. 785 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,120 It's a good one, yeah. That's not going to be the title 786 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,160 of the episode. I want Sean to brick Mikey, OK? 787 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,160 I could do that. Do you, is there anything else 788 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,360 that you guys would like to say before we call it? 789 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,600 I would like to, I do have one thing I want to say to our 790 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,320 listeners and to our patrons and to anybody who at any point has 791 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,920 interacted with us in any way on social media or has listened and 792 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,440 never said a word to us. Thank you so much from the 793 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,840 bottom of our heart. I really appreciate it. 794 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:50,800 You guys are the reason we do this. 795 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,080 If there was nobody who cared what we had to say, we could 796 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,320 just quietly talk to each other in a Discord channel. 797 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,440 So I hope you have a Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays or 798 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,600 whatever you celebrate, wherever you celebrate. 799 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,400 If you're alone this season and you need a friend, we have lots 800 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,360 of episodes in the backlog, but we're also in the Discord, so 801 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,560 drop us a message, say hi. If you, you know, you're just 802 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,240 looking for someone to talk to or like someone to hang out. 803 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,600 One of us is always there. So yeah, thank you so much for 804 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,320 everything Phaznatics. We haven't decided yet. 805 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,080 Still undecided? But that's my 2026 Christmas 806 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,560 wish that eventually we finally come up with a name. 807 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,200 We'll, we'll, we'll start off 2026 first episode before the 808 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,880 first episode, we will have a name. 809 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,680 That's a guarantee. Guys, it's going to it's going 810 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,160 to happen. I don't I don't mean to 811 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:48,040 contradict you, Sean, but the thing I want to say is like I 812 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,440 like podcasting. I like chatting with like the 813 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,160 community and everything, but this show would not be here 814 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:01,760 today if not for you and Lex, like we the show was on a 815 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,840 hiatus. We're we're building back. 816 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,360 I think that we're getting better than ever, and that's 817 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,160 because I get to talk with you and Lex each week. 818 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,960 That's because we work together. We prop each other up, We do 819 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:25,680 stupid memes, we scream about random things both in the 820 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,120 Discord and on the show. We came up with the white Rabbit 821 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,040 catch phrase because sometimes we do it a little too much and I 822 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,760 I love that and I love you guys. You guys are amazing. 823 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,840 So thank you for everything you've made by 2025 without 824 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,480 without like anybody else, like you guys have made 2025 for me. 825 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,040 Thank you is. This because I offered to kiss 826 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,760 you on the mouth earlier. Is that the? 827 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,880 I'll cash in on that later. That'll be 2026. 828 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,480 That'll make my 2026. Mandy's 2026 wish. 829 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,480 See now I feel like I have to thank the devs. 830 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,200 Like everyone, you guys have covered everyone else. 831 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:07,080 I just thank yourself, Lex. Yeah, I'm so. 832 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,600 I thank me. 'Cause I know I'm good. 833 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,400 But but yes, genuinely to, to both of those, yes, we have the 834 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,840 most amazing community, the most amazing extended community that 835 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,280 I've ever seen. I love you guys. 836 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,520 I'm so glad to hang out with you guys. 837 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,880 And we also have a very amazing nuclear community and I love you 838 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,000 too. And I'm so glad that I have you 839 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,720 too. We're all so friendly, it's 840 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:35,720 great. Well then. 841 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:39,320 Very excited. Until the new year, may all your 842 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,200 hits be crits.