1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,760 Yeah, no worries. I'll edit that part out later. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,000 You'll never know, but you at least get to say that you did 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 say it, even if it never made it to anybody's ears for the Karen 4 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:15,800 tour for Pandaria. For calendar to. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:23,680 The burning region for Gilneus or have not died for the Lich 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,000 King. For the. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:32,920 Sindori for the Alliance for the Horn for Azeroth. 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,200 Hello and welcome to another episode of For Azeroth. 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,320 I am one of your hosts Manny AKA the true villain Manny and I am 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,760 joined by Lex. Lex, how has the World of 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Warcraft been treating you? It's been treating me good, 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,000 Manny. I am reminded of why I don't 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,240 usually sweat in World of Warcraft because I burn out real 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,560 freaking fast. So I am backing off a little 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,000 bit. I spent most of this week 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,640 reading Play Nice, which is very fun. 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,360 I have many thoughts. If anyone wants to hear my 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,960 thoughts on Twitter, I probably won't tweet them, but you can 19 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:12,200 ask me for them and I'll tell you them. 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,080 And I also played a little bit of the anniversary, which is 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,280 very fun and we'll talk about later, But I was having a good 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:19,920 little time. Oh. 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Man, OK, I think I've hit a bit of burnout too. 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,880 Now that now that you're, you're saying it like the last couple 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,240 of, well, you know what, like part of it's just been because 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,000 I've been busier in other things. 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,040 So I just haven't had the time to play as much as I would have 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,440 liked. And then because my time is 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,920 being squished and that makes it harder to fit in everything that 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:53,280 I would want to fit in. It's made it less enjoyable to 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,080 like go at my own pace because now I have this checklist of 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,840 things that I, that I'm falling behind on and so forth. 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:07,640 So like I man, it's weird. OK, so I was doing really well 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,640 getting contracts every week, pushing my renown and I fell off 35 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:16,720 the last couple of weeks. I didn't get a contract. 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:22,120 I think the last last week, the week before I didn't do half the 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,040 world quest that I would normally do. 38 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,960 This week I didn't pick up a contract at all. 39 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,240 And we're now halfway through the week, so I've probably lost 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,240 it. So lost like a bunch of world 41 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,120 quests as well. So I've fallen behind where I 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,960 would have been if I had kept things up. 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,480 That said, I am 23 with most renowns. 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,880 The track ends at 25 and the one that's lagging behind is only at 45 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,240 20. I say that in that way because I 46 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,880 don't want to say like, oh I've fallen behind and stuff because 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,400 I have friends that are nowhere near that. 48 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,600 I have friends that are like who have completed the track, but 49 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,280 for me, I wanted to get those flying mounts and I'm a mountain 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:09,080 collector, so 23 was the big hit and I I got that this week. 51 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:17,200 I can pretty much relax except we've got this new patch that 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:23,800 hit and new activities to do. I haven't done any of the other 53 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,560 farming. Like my usual pattern is that I 54 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,480 will go pretty hardcore. I, I will go into my version of 55 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,200 being a sweat for the first little bit to like get all the 56 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,240 power that I can to get to the, the level that that I need to. 57 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,920 And then it sort of shifts into a maintenance mode. 58 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,480 And while I'm in that kind of maintenance mode, I will be 59 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,000 doing all of this sort of side stuff. 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,600 So it's not that I play less, it's just that like my focus 61 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,600 sort of shifts and it's like I don't need to do like a bunch of 62 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:05,280 keys and all the delves and plug into a bunch of raids to finish 63 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,080 anything that I that I've missed. 64 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,880 So I will go and I will hunt down mounts from like past EX 65 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:18,800 dimensions and and so forth. The cadence pretty much since 66 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Dragonflight hasn't has been fast enough that I have had less 67 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,480 time to get into that mode. And maybe that's part of why I'm 68 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,320 the sort of like, oh, I haven't had the breather. 69 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:33,880 Yeah, that is true. That especially after everything 70 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,720 that happened with Shadow Lands, they started working really hard 71 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,680 to make sure that they were constantly pushing content, 72 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,000 right, Even if it was a story. I will say right now feels very 73 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,560 busy to me too. The fact that we're, you know, 74 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,440 still only in Season 1 of a new expansion and all of a sudden we 75 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,400 actually have double, you know, double raids and all of these 76 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,680 other activities, which luckily are giving some things like 77 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,560 delve keys. I didn't I realized that it was 78 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,880 it was going to overlap in that way and like some gear and 79 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,960 stuff. So it's the same things as as 80 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,320 the the chest that you would have gotten had you been doing 81 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:15,520 more stuff in Dornagall proper. But it it does feel like there's 82 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,640 a lot right? Like I'm still kind of at the 83 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,760 point where I'm, I've gotten my feet more or less under me with 84 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,880 the new, the, the new content, but I was just kind of getting 85 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,280 into the swing of it and now it's like, and here's even more 86 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:35,440 content to do. Well, let's dive into it because 87 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,840 it's Wednesday. Yesterday we got a new patch and 88 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:43,760 with that new patch we got the big anniversary patch. 89 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,600 So this is 11.0 point five that is hit. 90 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:53,640 And with that, we've got the anniversary event grounds right 91 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:59,200 in front of the Cavern of Time. It all of the stuff that we were 92 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:05,600 talking about last week. We've had a day, an evening 93 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,240 because it came up late in NA to get our first taste of it. 94 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,080 And So what have you experienced so far? 95 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,240 So I did a lot of running around the fairgrounds itself, right? 96 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,240 I did all the entry level quests, the talking to everyone, 97 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,280 you know, going and figuring out where everything is. 98 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,240 I hung out a little bit with, I did fashion Frenzy and I got two 99 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,760 votes for my outfit, which was nowhere near winning, but I 100 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,840 felt, and I ran around with a little Otter for a while, which 101 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,480 is very fun if you're a Demon Hunter because you get wings. 102 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,720 If you drop like you can, you can glide and you get little, 103 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,920 stupid little demon wings. It's amazing. 104 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,760 And then I hung out with the bounce and I remember that I'm 105 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,560 not a mount collector because I couldn't show any of the ones 106 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,320 that they were everyone else was showing. 107 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,760 But it was cute. It was fun because everyone was 108 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,560 like putting on their mounts at the same time and it felt like a 109 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,920 big fun group activity. I did, I will say I did the 110 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,480 Anchorage event, which I was saying I was very excited for 111 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,560 because Anchorage was something that I missed in Classic, 112 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,440 obviously, and I'm sure this is known to everyone else. 113 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,040 I don't really PTRI don't really do a lot of testing. 114 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,680 So I don't know if this was available on the PTR, but I went 115 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,360 in expecting that it was going to be like a cool, you know, 116 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,960 this the nostalgia trip from classic. 117 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,800 And it was a a little bit of a, shall we say, nostalgia trip 118 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,480 from a couple months ago because it was virtually identical to 119 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,240 the pre patch event I thought, which I am feeling a little bit 120 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,760 salty about. I am like, that was one of the 121 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,400 more boring free patches we've had and we decided to copy and 122 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,800 paste it into a scenario. But not everything is for 123 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,120 everyone and not everything is for me. 124 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,440 And so it's OK. How are you feeling about it, 125 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,800 Manny? I mean, like I will say that 126 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,360 like there's got to be some restraint on how often and how 127 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,480 quickly you go back to a well. Yeah. 128 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Like I I think you're you were discounting your criticism too 129 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:09,600 quickly there. It it is very odd for them to do 130 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:15,000 an event that is structured so similar to the pre patch event 131 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:22,200 and use the same graphical cues. To me, it would have been so 132 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,920 much better for them to pull a graphical cue from somewhere 133 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:32,880 else just to at least not immediately remind people of 134 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,720 that, of like that same sort of event. 135 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,440 So I can understand the disappointment with that. 136 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,840 I think there's a lot of people who are somewhat disappointed, 137 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:56,120 but for me I think that it's way too early to have drawn the 138 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,960 conclusions yet. Because we haven't done the time 139 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,120 walking, I haven't had a chance to jump into the raid, which 140 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,040 some people like. The majority of of the buzz that 141 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,560 I've heard from social media is that it's overtuned, that it is 142 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:15,600 difficult, that you will get roughly 3 bosses in and then it 143 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,200 will suddenly jump up in difficulty and be a much harder 144 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,840 experience. So my team wasn't rushing in 145 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,280 there. We did our RE clear yesterday, 146 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,120 getting 7 out of eight. So we'll go deal with Anzerek 147 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,120 later. We're going to do a third grade 148 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:39,240 day to give this a try, and I'm glad that it's there, but it 149 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:45,640 also feels like a lot of teams are still quite entrenched in 150 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,560 their progress, and if it wasn't for this being tied to the 151 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,680 anniversary, this could have come out later. 152 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,720 Yeah, well, and I think I've complained about this on this 153 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,120 podcast before. 10 to 15 people is an awkward number, right? 154 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Because it's if you aren't at a full 20 on your raid team, it's 155 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,360 hard to split. Like one thing that we're 156 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,680 talking about on my team is that we tend to hit around I think 157 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:16,720 like 16-17 people, which means what we're probably going to 158 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,480 have to do is we're probably going to have to divide and pug, 159 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,240 which is fine, but isn't really ideal, right? 160 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Like either we're going to sit people or we're going to have to 161 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,560 pug people, which usually like we are pretty aggressively anti 162 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:32,440 pugging people because, you know, we are really like the the 163 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,680 point of raid night for us is that it's the time that you're 164 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,880 hanging out with your buddies and the people that you know and 165 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,120 that have, you know, gone through the whole testing 166 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,320 process that the officers have to make sure everything is happy 167 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,440 and joyful. Would you know, it's not to say 168 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,520 anything bad about pugs. I've been a pug, but that's 169 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,480 something. Known it's just a random element 170 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,840 that you don't want to introduce into it. 171 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,760 Right, especially since we're hoping to do this as like a true 172 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,120 progression, right? Like we have heard it's harder 173 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,640 than expected. So we already had a bonus raid 174 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,120 night that we were going to be jumping into. 175 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Usually we do like re clear or clean up things that we've done 176 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,160 previously, but it's not a required raid night. 177 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,720 And so we're going to turn that into our Black Rock deaths 178 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,800 night, which is very exciting and very fun, but it is going to 179 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,320 get a little bit awkward. And also, you know, if teams 180 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,080 kind of developed different straps or different ways of 181 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,400 going through fights, it'll be hard if we have to shuffle that 182 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,360 around. So I, I never loved the decision 183 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,920 to make it such a small window of, of numbers of players. 184 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:30,240 And as I'm thinking about this as a, as a raid officer, I'm 185 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,720 liking it less and less. I'm sure that there were reasons 186 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,800 they had to do that, but like, I think it, it's a little 187 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,320 uncomfortable. That's just my take though. 188 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:44,120 The reason that it's 10 to 15 is I don't believe it's a 189 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,440 programming thing. I literally think it's a space 190 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,800 thing though. Like BlackRock depths isn't 191 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:59,280 built for a large large team. Like I believe it was originally 192 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,240 A10 or A-15 man raid. Oh, fascinating, that makes 193 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,640 sense. So they may have been like, OK, 194 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,160 we're going to adjust scaling and allow you to go win it in 195 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:15,400 with as little as 10 people. But pushing it above 15, there's 196 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,040 not space for people to be actually be in some of these 197 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,040 environments. Yeah, that is fair. 198 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:30,600 And so I think I believe that's the case. 199 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,640 I would love to hear from the fast listeners. 200 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Let me know if I'm smoking something. 201 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:40,000 That was way back in vanilla, 20 years ago now. 202 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:47,160 I was incredibly new to rating. My first rating experience was 203 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:51,360 out of combat rezing. So I would stand making sure I 204 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,840 didn't get into combat and when somebody would die it would like 205 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,400 send them a rez with my shaman. That was my entire contribution 206 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,760 to the raid. Rating was a different beast 207 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,000 back then. Lex. 208 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,600 Oh. God I love that's so much. 209 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,840 I'm glad you got that experience. 210 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,280 It's like when you have an intern that's so cute. 211 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:15,360 That's that's pretty it like it was it was something else. 212 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:23,680 Anyway, I like I like that they're they brought this back. 213 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,240 I think that they could have actually staggered the raid 214 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:34,640 release a little bit later, just because when we're dealing with 215 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,480 all these things to do, staggering things out helps. 216 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,720 Like we aren't doing time walking right now. 217 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,120 We haven't had a chance to do any of the time walking dungeons 218 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:48,320 that are supposedly coming later. 219 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,920 This week's This Week is What's the weekly quest this week? 220 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,920 There definitely is one for Black Rock depth. 221 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Oh, I think it's just killing the world bosses. 222 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:08,320 Right, OK, so sorry. So there the there isn't a time 223 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,760 walking week quest and that's coming later. 224 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,320 You could have had the raid, even though they have the BRD 225 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:20,240 this week, they they could have put it off to something else and 226 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,680 just given us the go do world events. 227 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,680 The fair will count towards the world events and that would 228 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:33,800 encourage people to do the do the fair next week where they 229 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,520 introduce something else. We're going to have dark Moon 230 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,840 fair coming because we're literally going into November, 231 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,400 right? And then space out because it's 232 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,840 going to be here 3, three months through till like well, more two 233 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,520 months in a bit because it's 10 weeks. 234 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,400 So it's going to be going through till January. 235 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,520 There's lots, lots of time. I'm surprised at the rate is so 236 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,360 difficult because it's going through all of these holiday 237 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:05,600 times, but considering also that we're going to have three months 238 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,480 to Prague or other 10 weeks to Prague through this. 239 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,800 I guess it does. It's nice that it has a bit of 240 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,560 difficulty to it and that you can you can give that stuff for 241 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,560 people who genuinely are done with the challenge. 242 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,680 So I just I see it as an extra, but it also feels like there's a 243 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,760 lot of there's a lot of, oh, the new stuff and I want to do it 244 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,280 and but I haven't finished with the old stuff. 245 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,120 This is a situation that we haven't had since like what? 246 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:42,440 I guess recently it was Legion, definitely Warlords going from 247 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:50,240 the first raid into BlackRock. Foundry seemed really quick to 248 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,000 go between that and I guess Mr. Pandaria when they were doing 249 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,800 the three raids in the first tier that kept on like 250 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,760 releasing. You're like, Oh my goodness, I 251 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,200 don't think I had enough time to get through to get to the next 252 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,880 one. So like we've been in this 253 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,560 situation before. I think it's the lesser of 254 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,640 evils. I'd rather be like all this, 255 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,240 there's all this stuff to do, but how do I deal with the 256 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,760 burnout? Let's how are you dealing with 257 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,800 the burnout? Like you're just stepping away 258 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,600 and be like, I'm going to, I'm going to read a book, guys. 259 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,320 I need to look at something other than the screen. 260 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Yeah, I'm being very conscious of the fact that this is a video 261 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,480 game that I play for fun. And I've, I've done this in the 262 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,600 past with different activities. I, I think I even sat on this 263 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,800 podcast. I did this with time walking or 264 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,440 time running. Excuse me, where if I am playing 265 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,320 World of Warcraft and I realize that I am just not having fun, I 266 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,880 log off. There is obviously there are 267 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,840 exceptions. One of the reasons that I'm 268 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,920 feeling kind of burnt out is that I, I hit a couple of 269 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:59,360 dungeon walls. There was one Arakara dungeon. 270 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,600 I sending so much love and affection to the people who did 271 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,000 that Arakara with me because it was vicious. 272 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Like I think it took almost an hour and a half for us to get 273 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,200 through and it was all my fault. It was like entirely just that I 274 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,280 was positioning wrong. Anyway, I won't get into it, but 275 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200 like, obviously I'm not going to be like I'm not having fun. 276 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,480 Bye besties log off when I'm doing something with people. 277 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,600 But more so I realized after that like, oh God, like I'm not 278 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,560 looking at mythic plus in this moment as like this joyful thing 279 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,560 that I am super excited to do anymore. 280 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,280 It's become, Oh, it's a day that I have a couple hours in the 281 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,280 evening. That means it's time to get on 282 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,280 and do M plus because I need to work on my M plus because I need 283 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,920 to grind up and I need to be a better tank. 284 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,760 I need to I need to learn all the dungeons and I don't do M 285 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:45,800 plus. I'm not going to be able to keep 286 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,040 moving. I'm not going to be able to keep 287 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,680 grinding. And when I noticed that I'm 288 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,160 getting into that mindset, I stop. 289 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:57,680 I take a night off, I read a book, I watch TVI go for a walk. 290 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,440 Not anymore because it gets dark at like 4:00 now. 291 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,880 Not that's not true 6, but still it's very early. 292 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,880 I I prioritize the other things in my life that bring me joy. 293 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,080 And I remember that this is a fun little game that I play 294 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,760 because it is fun and it makes me happy and it lets me relax 295 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,640 and it lets me, you know, get excited about things and learn 296 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,760 things. And when it ceases to be that, 297 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,800 it is ceasing to do its job and I need to put it aside. 298 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,000 OK, OK. For me, I look for story because 299 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,560 I really when I am most having fun is like when there are new 300 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,480 moments and stuff and we've had the disc weeklies that happen 301 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,400 every couple of weeks where it's like a new little bit of lore 302 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,160 that we get. But it it doesn't, it's not 303 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,680 quite satisfying because it's such a small amount. 304 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,640 Like it's like there are some revelations and I, I do love 305 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,000 talking about about those, but I'm really looking forward to 306 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:58,680 the next patch, next major patch because I want the next part of 307 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,160 this story. We started so strong with the 308 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,880 questing, the story and all of that. 309 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:09,440 I was hoping that maybe there was some time gated story or 310 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,800 story that was behind renown and such. 311 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case, but that just means 312 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:25,400 that it more than I'm looking forward to and I will say that 313 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:31,240 there are some stuff with this patch that are encrypted there's 314 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,400 the dalarans survivors that are going around the city that are 315 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,040 more prominent now that we're in 11 point O .5. 316 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:45,400 There is one particular survivor that has a quest marker on them 317 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,320 that is silver and I don't know what will open that up, but that 318 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600 was encrypted on the PTR so nobody could tell. 319 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,680 I'm looking forward to seeing that. 320 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:00,080 And of course they are already feeding the next story, so there 321 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,480 is a lot to talk about with that that makes me excited for where 322 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:10,040 this is going for it. But 11 point O .5 came with 323 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,120 unfortunately a lot of rough edges. 324 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:20,440 Now the patch issues are pretty varied and pretty and pretty 325 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:25,480 wild. I want to say before we get too 326 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,520 deep into this, I expect that that many of these issues are 327 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:35,880 going to be dealt with fast. A big issue is that many of the 328 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:41,200 hot fixes that we have seen all the way through the initial part 329 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,720 of this expansion did not get merged with the PTR patch. 330 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,520 And so when the PTR patch came on to life, it actually wiped 331 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,640 out a lot of that progression that we've seen. 332 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,200 And so a lot of teams have seen like a bit of regression or a 333 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,240 lot of classes have seen a lot of the like the benefits that 334 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:06,920 they had been getting over the this first part kind of just 335 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,400 torn back from them. So shadow priests are really 336 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:17,480 hurting right now. And they were also some quality 337 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,480 of life changes that they were making that caused some 338 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,840 unintended buffs and nerves. And a lot of people were 339 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:32,280 wondering, well, why in the world is arcane getting such a 340 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,160 huge buff? And it was like double digits, 341 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:40,360 like 11 or something, 11 or 12% DPS buff and arcane was doing 342 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:41,320 fine. Why in the world are they 343 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,440 getting that? Why in the world are DKS, blood 344 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,360 DKS getting such a hit when they are not? 345 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:53,120 Like the tank and lizard did a quick hot fix that came out just 346 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:57,360 prior to the patch going live to make some of these adjustments 347 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,120 because they realized that the quality of life changes had also 348 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,880 done that. But then on top of that, there 349 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:10,840 are unfortunately a number of bugs that are a lot more severe. 350 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,280 And so I'm going to talk to you about these ones. 351 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,600 They made some major retuning for shaman. 352 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,560 If you want to know more about that. 353 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:28,040 I got to sit down with two of the theory crafters, Hawk, who 354 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,760 covers elemental as one of the theory crafters with the with 355 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,960 the earthshine and of course, word up who does enhancement. 356 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,960 We got to sit down and we talked about that and there were a 357 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,440 number of alarm bells that they were raising. 358 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,680 One of them definitely got fixed ahead of time and Blizzard put 359 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,960 that into the patch notes and it's like, OK, great, here's a 360 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,000 temporary fix so that this doesn't run out of control and 361 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,520 this is what we're going to be doing later to bring it in line. 362 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,920 And then another one, it seems that they had done the work and 363 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,280 and adjusted it, but we never saw that work being put into the 364 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,000 script. Unfortunately, there is 365 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,080 currently an issue with elemental shaman. 366 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,760 They increase the relative ability of mastery and they 367 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:26,080 change the way ascendance works. And basically what ascendance 368 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440 now does is that it double dips your mastery. 369 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,040 So elemental mastery is that every time you shoot a 370 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,320 particular spell, you have a chance of getting a second less 371 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,960 effective version of that spell just automatically shot off. 372 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,400 Ascendance means that every time you proc that second copy of the 373 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,160 spell, you actually get 2 copies of that spell. 374 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,440 This has apparently not being tested and there is a lot of 375 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:01,800 people who are saying that like the the patch seems to be 376 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,880 lacking some thorough testing that we've come to expect from 377 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,480 Bridson. Because now while some classes 378 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:16,480 are doing a million and odd going up into like some low 379 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,200 digit millions, which is still like Oh my goodness, millions of 380 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,040 damage. There have been reports of 381 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,520 elemental shamans doing 1020 times the damage of other 382 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,840 classes in the same pool. Oh my. 383 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,120 Yeah, you've got like some classes and they're like 384 00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:37,560 fighting and you've got the the warriors doing burst. 385 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,880 I I'm sorry, I know warriors aren't doing as much burst as 386 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,320 they used to. Sean, Sean can pour one out for 387 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,520 that one. But classes doing burst and 388 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,960 they're doing like 1-2 million or something, you're seeing 389 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,760 elemental shamans doing 2025 million. 390 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,880 This is obviously something that is going to be addressed 391 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:07,480 quickly, hopefully before long. I have seen already on the 392 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,160 central distribution network a new version of the patch. 393 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,960 I expect that we'll see that that applied quickly because 394 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,040 they're running out of time and the launcher right now, they are 395 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,840 performing scheduled maintenance in NA tomorrow morning. 396 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,240 So I expect that we'll see that patch rolled in tomorrow morning 397 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,840 before most people even hear me say this, and that will fix some 398 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,120 of those things. I have a question for you Manny. 399 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:44,560 I am feeling like the patches are getting messier recently and 400 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,040 we've been seeing a ton of post release tuning. 401 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,480 It feels like when Blizzard comes up with an idea it usually 402 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,760 is not super clean until the players tell them it needs to 403 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,000 get fixed and then to their credit they fix it very quickly. 404 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,720 I'm not sure though how much of that is just that I'm paying 405 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,120 significantly closer attention now that I am like podcasting 406 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,400 regularly about World of Warcraft and things like that. 407 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,840 So as somebody who's been paying significantly closer attention 408 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,920 for a much longer time than me, do you also feel like things are 409 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,800 messy currently, or is that just how patches are and they're just 410 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,840 communicating better? If you had asked me that two 411 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,880 weeks ago, I would have said it's business as usual. 412 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:39,520 I think that with new systems being added in at the beginning 413 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,600 of the expansion, there's always this bit of growing pain. 414 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,720 We saw it with Dragonflight, we saw it with shadow lands, we saw 415 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,360 it with BFA, especially BFA for poor shamans. 416 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:01,160 These things, these things happen and it can either go like 417 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:07,320 BFA where they have a fundamental issue that they keep 418 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,360 having to adjust things. And it felt like BFA, they were 419 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:19,400 constantly trying to make up for how the game launched with the 420 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,040 with the systems that they stacked on top of azerite armor 421 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,240 in shadow lands. It was having to adjust 422 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,520 covenants and people will make these complaints constantly. 423 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,120 And before they would make these complaints and be like, 424 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:44,440 Blizzard's not listening to us. And now Blizzard is very much 425 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,320 listening. But the cadence is coming so 426 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:54,560 fast that with this patch, it feels like yes, this, this felt 427 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,640 like they had their backs against the wall where they had 428 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720 this idea for an anniversary. They wanted to do something big. 429 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,240 It's their big 30th anniversary of World of Warcraft. 430 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,320 It is their big, sorry, rather 30th anniversary of Warcraft. 431 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,640 It's their big 20th anniversary of World of Warcraft. 432 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,120 And they wanted to do this big thing. 433 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:21,680 And for the most part, a lot of this stuff feels great. 434 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,680 I think that if you look at the fairgrounds that you were going 435 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,560 around, I don't think there's that much that many bugs or that 436 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,640 that many issues, not notable ones that I've heard anybody 437 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,120 complaining about. The balance, though, this feels 438 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,160 like a, especially in the case of shamans, this feels like a 439 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880 remnant of them running out of time before they could launch. 440 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:53,520 And then because they are on this set schedule, because 441 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,560 they've had so many disruptions with layoff after layoff after 442 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,000 wave of layoffs. And that doesn't just mean that 443 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,440 they're working with less people, even though they say 444 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,040 that they're not getting hit, they're not hitting the 445 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:15,080 development teams. It means that the people who go 446 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,440 into work and how many people that they used to work with are 447 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,200 no longer there like that. That's disruptive, period. 448 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560 And it's been happening frequently. 449 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:36,840 Oh yeah. So I, I felt that we would feel 450 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,880 the effects of these layoffs later down the line. 451 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,680 There's no way for me to say definitively that this is an 452 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,120 effect of that. But you can go back to the first 453 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:59,080 big nearly 1000 people that were laid off and Holly Longdale, the 454 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,960 great leader that she is, rallying the truth and be like, 455 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,600 we're still going to do everything that we said we were 456 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,920 going to do. Don't you worry, guys, we're 457 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,880 still going to deliver. And my response was like, like, 458 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,440 I hear what you're saying, but it feels like you're still 459 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,120 trying to do everything you're trying to do with less. 460 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,040 Yeah, I that's, and I've, I've said this on this podcast 461 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,360 before, I will once again make my plea to the Blizzard employee 462 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,800 who, you know, listens to the show. 463 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,520 You can slow down like this is to at Blizzard. 464 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,520 Please listen to me. It's OK. 465 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,200 Like we would rather maybe I'm, I'm speaking for everyone 466 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,400 because I am the queen of World Warcraft, as you all know, in my 467 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,040 opinions are everyone's opinions, in my views, 468 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,720 everyone's view. And so if I say something's OK, 469 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,080 everyone says OK, Now that we've got that out of the way, we 470 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,640 would rather longer developmental cycles, the end 471 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,080 with more successful products. We would rather longer 472 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,560 developmental cycles. That means that the team stays 473 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,800 together, right? That the people aren't burning 474 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,960 out. People aren't getting horrible 475 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,320 amounts of crunch, right. We want the devs who make this 476 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,320 game that we love to also love the game and to also have good 477 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,960 lives. It's every time I've looked at 478 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,600 the road maps, my first thought has always been Jesus Christ, 479 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480 right? Like great, if possible, but 480 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,200 that's my God. Like, good Lord, that's a lot. 481 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,240 And that's, and it just, it keeps on going and it's like, 482 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200 it's OK to throw in the towel. It's OK to say, you know what? 483 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,480 Now we're also looking at the road maps and saying Jesus 484 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,840 Christ like, it's, it's fine, we get it. 485 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,160 Please, please allow this to take the time it needs. 486 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,680 I would so much rather continue to play a game that has long 487 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,960 cycles between content and then mannequin mount farm and it's 488 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,640 great and everyone's happy, than a game that quality starts 489 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,240 getting sacrificed for speed again. 490 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,080 As the Queen of World of Warcraft, that's my take. 491 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,120 And so that's everyone's. Take. 492 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,760 But to contradict myself a little bit, I think that this 493 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:13,160 patch is most more likely to be an Aardvark than anything else 494 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,480 because it had to coincide with a specific date of the World of 495 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,680 Warcraft anniversary. That's really true, yeah. 496 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:28,040 So 11 point O point 711.1. Those ones are more likely to 497 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,480 have the wiggle room to shift a bit in order for them to put in 498 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:40,040 the time to do what they need to do and get that Blizzard Polish. 499 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,600 So I don't see this as immediately a sign of things to 500 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,600 come. I just think that it was like 501 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:54,560 the worst sort of scenario where it it had to go and be live 502 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,920 quickly. I would have liked for them to 503 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,360 have treat treated this more like instead of a .5 patch, a .0 504 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040 patch where they gave like here's the patch. 505 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160 We're going to work out the bugs in week 1 and then we're going 506 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,400 to release the raid in Week 2, right? 507 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:19,360 Like just have like a quasi pre season because that would have 508 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,200 still been fine for them to allow it because the 30th like 509 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,720 yeah, it's right before Halloween, but like Halloween's 510 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:34,480 like the 1st and and like Cinco de Marte is like the second day. 511 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,240 And that's not that bad to like have that as a disruption to a 512 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,520 raid that is really just a celebration and will be around 513 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,160 for another eight weeks after that. 514 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,880 That's fair, yeah. The other part to this though is 515 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,800 that the PTR itself was down for long stretches. 516 00:33:54,360 --> 00:34:02,120 They would like just between the release Tuesday and last week, I 517 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,360 was sitting down again with the the theory crafters on Monday. 518 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:15,560 On Wednesday the patch went down or the PTR went down and it 519 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,760 wasn't back up over the weekend. So there was little time for 520 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,600 people to give some testing. That wasn't the first time he 521 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,320 had gone down and come back up for a bit. 522 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:32,600 So that kind of hurt the testing that they could do publicly, but 523 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:38,960 also it's a .5 patch. A lot of people, a lot more 524 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,080 people. Are. 525 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:46,159 Not testing this then they would obviously the alpha, the beta, 526 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:52,040 the so forth and when 11.1 starts coming on the PTRI think 527 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,840 more people would be willing to test that then this .5 patch or 528 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,400 even the .7 patch that is out there on the on the distribution 529 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,480 networks. Yeah, that is fair. 530 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680 That is fair. I don't mean to alarmist, I 531 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 don't mean to doomer. I suppose is more the word I'm I 532 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480 should say. No, it's a good question to ask 533 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,040 though. I am I, I, I continue to be just 534 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,880 concerned, but also extremely grateful. 535 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,400 And to be fair, amazing things have come out of the last few 536 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,600 patches and the last few developmental cycles. 537 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:31,840 So we love please don't kill yourself for the game like it's 538 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,360 OK. We want, we love that you're 539 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,080 putting out the content. We want the content to be the 540 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:46,640 game to be sustained rather than like, yeah, like I think the 541 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,240 fact that you and I are both experiencing some level of 542 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:53,080 burnout means that it's likely shared with a lot of players 543 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,680 that are seeing all of this stuff where and it's it's just 544 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,800 hitting a lot, a lot of players. Again, I'd love to hear from the 545 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,760 fast community because this is really where I want to hear from 546 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,600 more people, not just us in our own little echo chamber about 547 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,800 where people's heads are at. I'm sure there are some people 548 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,440 who are like super into the raid, but like, I've lost what, 549 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,960 2-3 weeks of Mythic plus? I feel like it's going to be a 550 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,440 hellscape for me to try and pug into that now because I think 551 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,760 there is a direct correlation of like what your Mythic plus score 552 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,640 is the key that you're going for and how late into the season 553 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,080 you're at. So it's going to be, it's going 554 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,480 to be hard for me to pick up in Mythic plus again. 555 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,760 And I, I wanted to go for like Keystone Heroes and Portables 556 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,880 and all of that sort of stuff. And diving back into that might 557 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,760 be a lot. With that said, I'd like to take 558 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,360 this time to thank our newest patron. 559 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,240 So a special thanks to you, Siphon. 560 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,880 Siphon, Thank you very much. FAZ will always be free, but if 561 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,200 you enjoy the content that we produce, consider becoming a 562 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,080 patron like Siphon or and many others over at Patreon. 563 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:19,720 That is patreon.com/faz. Next week when we have Sean 564 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:22,960 back, we'll do a story. I just didn't have time to 565 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 think. I was going to say we'll make 566 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,520 that happen, Simon, I swear. OK. 567 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,120 Lex, do you want to cover our last little bit of news here? 568 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,640 Yeah, for sure. So there is a new documentary 569 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,920 coming to Netflix this Friday, October 25th. 570 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,440 It is called The Remarkable Life of Eveline. 571 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,560 Man, did I say that right? You know how bad I am with 572 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,360 names. I would not know either, so 573 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,880 we're going to let it go. Great. 574 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,040 At the very least, it's not like the the last time I tried to 575 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,320 thank a patron. Anyway, we're moving on. 576 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,480 We don't need to remember that moment. 577 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,160 The Remarkable Life of Eveline, which is a documentary about a 578 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,760 Norwegian gamer who died of a degenerative muscular disease at 579 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:11,520 the age of 25 named Matt Steen. And my understanding of the 580 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,360 movie is that he played World of Warcraft and had a lot of 581 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,200 friends. Yeah, like it's, it is really 582 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,200 amazing because he, again, he's suffering from this degenerative 583 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,160 muscle disease. And so his mobility is lessened. 584 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,120 He can't go out as much. But he found his community, he 585 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,320 found friends and everything through World of Warcraft. 586 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:46,000 And his parents weren't actually aware of the life he was living 587 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,640 in the game. And it wasn't until after he 588 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,200 passed that his friends started reaching out being like, oh, 589 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,920 where's Eibulene? Because they they didn't know, 590 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,480 right? And then his parents found out 591 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:04,400 like the life, the second life that is, that is that their 592 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,680 child was living this like entire, well, not child. 593 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,840 He was at that point. He was a man of 25 this, right, 594 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,720 and how full of a life he had had and the relationships that 595 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,760 he had developed when they thought that he had been so 596 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,120 confined. And so I think it's going to be 597 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:31,440 an amazing, if not sad, poignant, yeah, but poignant 598 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:37,440 experience that comes out. It came out again at the 599 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,600 Norwegian Film Festival at at the beginning of this year. 600 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,240 It is being released on Netflix this Friday. 601 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:51,520 And I suggest if you've got the time, go watch this movie 602 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,200 because like I, I really do love when you have those people that 603 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:03,720 are connected that way. I was part of AIE and we would 604 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:09,560 hold every year a March to celebrate a fundamental member 605 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,560 and. And you don't know what's going 606 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,080 on with people, with people and what's going on in their lives. 607 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,840 But like, the fact that you can touch somebody's life, be a true 608 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,720 friend even through, like, the monitor and the Internet and 609 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,200 everything. Like, I think that there's a lot 610 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,640 of positivity in this story, even if there is some sadness as 611 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:31,960 well. Yeah. 612 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Yeah, I think we all have those stories of the, you know, 613 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,360 connections we've made and the, the I, I've moved so many times 614 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,760 in my life. And the one thing that's kind of 615 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,240 kept me sane through all of that is my online friends. 616 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,280 And I think it's easy to kind of fall into the mindset of like, 617 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,680 oh, these are friendships that are like, you know, yeah. 618 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,920 Like you have your friends and you have your online friends, 619 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,840 but these are, you know, some of the most core friendships in my 620 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,560 life, right? Like, these are not secondary 621 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,680 closeness. These are not secondary people. 622 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:11,000 Y'all are just my folks and I think it's I'm really glad that 623 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,080 we're seeing that yet recognize the ways that we can continue to 624 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,040 remain connected even through our through our video games. 625 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:28,080 So the I realize that we're talking about this, but we 626 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,800 forgot one big piece of story news. 627 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,480 I was just. Thinking that too, I was like, 628 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,560 oh God, we're going to go. Back up there so we're we're 629 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160 we're going to we're going to reel you guys back in for one 630 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,680 more story because today Blizzard made a big announcement 631 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,880 there is the Warcraft 30th anniversary direct. 632 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,040 It is a presentation that I that is going to be what everybody 633 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,080 was saying is the replacement for BlizzCon this year. 634 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,840 And I do feel that we I do feel we need to pause very briefly 635 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,160 just so that I can say Sean was right about what Warcraft Direct 636 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,040 meant. It wasn't them going to all of 637 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,160 our cute little cities and having fun little fancy events 638 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,480 where I got to meet the devs. It was the video thing. 639 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,880 Congratulations, Sean. Sorry, Manny. 640 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,880 We can continue talking about what it actually is. 641 00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:26,840 Yeah, no worries. I'll edit that part out later. 642 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,080 You'll never know, but you at least get to say that you did 643 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,200 say it, even if it never made it to anybody's ears. 644 00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:34,760 Fair enough, it made it to your ears. 645 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,440 So this is happening on November 13th? 646 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,720 You're right, it does seem like it's going to be closer to a 647 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:44,760 BlizzCon line, but a much shorter truncated thing. 648 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:54,600 It's going to be at 10:00 PM, Sorry, 10AMP St. that is 1 649 00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:01,960 eastern or if you're over in the UK that is 6:00 PM GMT. 650 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,280 It's going to last about an hour. 651 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:15,320 Ahead of it there will be 1/2 hour pre show and after there's 652 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,000 going to be a broadcast of the World of Warcraft 20 Years of 653 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,720 Music concert. That was the concert that took 654 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:30,720 place in in Europe where you saw a number of content creators 655 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,040 that had watched it live while they've recorded that and 656 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,200 they're going to give a broadcast of that. 657 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,040 So you can listen, listen to that after the the hour 658 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,240 presentation. The presentation is going to be 659 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:48,720 on all the major platforms. So you've got TikTok, you've got 660 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:54,680 YouTube, you've got Twitch and other people can rebroadcast it. 661 00:43:54,680 --> 00:44:00,200 So your favorite streamer will most likely be streaming it or 662 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,000 saying, no Mandy, I don't stream anymore. 663 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,080 Stop asking, but we'll leave Lex out of it. 664 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,240 I was going to make a joke about Sean, so we got there 665 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,200 eventually. Just as a little incentive, 666 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,800 players that tune into the broadcast from any Warcraft 667 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,640 channel will also be able to to earn rewards for in game items 668 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,560 across all the Warcraft games. So that is World of Warcraft, 669 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,680 Hearthstone, and of course Warcraft Rumble. 670 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,800 Now, I don't know if this applies to the people who are 671 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,520 restreaming it, but Blizzard will give more details later. 672 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,960 And if you want to know all of the details, make sure you do 673 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,520 check out the show notes. We've got a link to that article 674 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,720 that shows all of that. So are you excited for this, 675 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:53,160 Lex? Yeah, I, I mean, it is in the 676 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,280 middle of the day, unfortunately, tragically. 677 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,040 So we'll see if I can. Second screen. 678 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,560 Yeah, work, work, work, work and not and have my phone watching 679 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,440 something that I definitely will not be paying attention to. 680 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,040 You can't schedule your lunch a little bit later. 681 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,040 That's fair. We'll see. 682 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,320 We'll see. We'll see, we'll see what I can 683 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,000 do. But I, I am really excited. 684 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,080 I think it's going to be fun and it's going to be cool and it's 685 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,600 going to be a cute little, a cute little thing for the 30th 686 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,720 anniversary. I do really appreciate as a big 687 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,480 Rumble girlie, that Rumble is officially considered part of 688 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,840 the Warcraft universe. I'm sure the Hearthstone people 689 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,480 feel the same. I, I think, I think it's going 690 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,960 to be fun. I think it's going to be a fun, 691 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,880 a fun little bit. I did have a moment of mourning 692 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,440 when I was like, Oh yeah, because we're not having 30th 693 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,680 anniversary BlizzCon. But we knew that long ago. 694 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:54,640 That's not like news. So this is going to be covering 695 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,960 like, you know, celebrating 30 years of Warcraft and it's going 696 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,000 to have the developers talking about like memories and so 697 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,200 forth. And it's also look ahead of 698 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,680 what's next. I already said that the 11 point 699 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,800 O .7 patch is on the central distribution network. 700 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,120 So I doubt they're going to be talking much about it. 701 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,000 They'll probably announce the date that that's coming out and 702 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,680 also talk a a bit about like the 11.1 patch and where we're going 703 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,600 for the next major patch. That's my expectation. 704 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,240 They say you don't want to miss. This is a quote. 705 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,440 You won't want to miss a moment or a single surprise. 706 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,160 So I'm deciding that they're going to drop major more 707 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,840 spoilers just because I want to be disappointed. 708 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:51,880 I I suspect that it will include like some major things that are 709 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,120 coming from 11.1, but not just like I suspect that they're 710 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:02,640 going to drop mechanical new stuff much like we saw in dragon 711 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,840 fight where it's like, hey, here's this like additional 712 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,920 thing. I don't believe we'll see like 713 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,360 Ogvokers or an additional spec to to because we don't have a 714 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,040 new class. That's true. 715 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:24,160 But maybe we'll see more race class expansion, additional 716 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,000 restrictions for transmog lifted, like a bunch of fan 717 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,720 service things that everybody should be like, yeah, you're 718 00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:33,920 finally doing it. That's what I expect to see. 719 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,600 Oh yeah sorry I'm currently scrolling down the forum 720 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:43,160 comments on the world the Warcraft post. 721 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,080 People are mean. Y'all need to chill out what is 722 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,160 going on? You can just not watch it. 723 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,240 Like you don't have to lose your entire God damn mind. 724 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:58,000 Good Lord. But yeah no I I also don't think 725 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,560 that they're actually going to say anything. 726 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,760 That's like life changing. They could, they could watch it. 727 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,320 They might. Wouldn't you be so sad if you 728 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,160 didn't watch Cross? Region coming in 11.1. 729 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,560 Oh God I wish, but maybe they'll announce World of Warcraft 2. 730 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,720 That worked really well for Overwatch. 731 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:28,600 Ouch. Sorry, but you. 732 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,600 Used to play that game. Yeah, a lot of people used to 733 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,920 play. That was very mean. 734 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,000 I, I, I miss it. I miss Overwatch as it was. 735 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,920 Or one out. Considering it's an hour, 736 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,000 considering that it's going to be hitting Wow, Hearthstone and 737 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,320 Warcraft Rumble, I do not expect that this is going to be 738 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,720 anything other than a quick video. 739 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,880 Probably an extended Wow cast if you would, just the initial 740 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,200 stuff. And then there's going to be a 741 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:09,280 bunch of posts afterwards going through until December that are 742 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,720 like coming in the new year. We'll see this. 743 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,160 What I would love is a 2025 road map. 744 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,120 That's that's I think the biggest thing that I would hope 745 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,200 for out of this. What is the biggest thing that 746 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,920 you would hope for? I think that they are going to 747 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,400 they I want them to announce that Warcraft Rumble is taking 748 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120 over for World of Warcraft as the main MMO. 749 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:41,640 Sorry, I'll take this seriously. I swear, I, I don't know, I 750 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,480 think I really just want a fun little nostalgia trip, right? 751 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,880 We've had so many huge announcements. 752 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200 Again, I am so worried about these tests. 753 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,640 I feel like they're moms. I feel like I'm just like 754 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,440 sitting here, like, OK, honey, but are you coming home for 755 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,320 Christmas this year? Like, I'm so worried about them. 756 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,040 So I just want them to have a good time telling me all the 757 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,280 cool things they're doing and showing me all the Pretty Little 758 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,920 art. And then I want them to go home 759 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200 and take a very long nap. That's what I want to get out of 760 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,600 this. OK, OK, well, I guess we will 761 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,680 call it here. Next week will be the 300th 762 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,640 episode, so we'll be doing a little something special for you 763 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,520 guys. Make sure you tune in. 764 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,640 This is an episode that you will not want to miss. 765 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,120 But until next time, don't fumble the rumble.