1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,280 Hello and welcome back to another episode of For Azeroth. 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:09,120 We have yet another special as we are moving closer to episode 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:11,960 400. This is a little bit of a more 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,320 casual thing. I'm sitting down with a special 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,120 guest each time. And today we have the amazing, 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:24,560 the astonishing, the queen of Lore herself, Ali. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,640 Hello Ali, how are you? Hello, you and your intros. 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Thank you, Sir. Hi, I'm happy to be back. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:40,760 Warcraft's been it's been an interesting, good, interesting 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,800 with this patch this with this, not this patch of season. 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,280 It, it's been there's so much to do, but I also have been playing 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,320 a little bit less because I've been taking more time to do 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,760 things like work out and take more care of myself. 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,320 So I'm finding myself having to fight off the FOMO because I 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,720 want to do all the things, but all the things could also be a 16 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,440 little grindy sometimes and I don't necessarily want to always 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,520 do the grindy. But then like, I haven't even 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,120 I'm ashamed, so ashamed to say I haven't even finished all the 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,360 side question stuff. So, so right, so ashamed. 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,360 But I'll log on. I'm like, I'm going to chill and 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,000 do side quests. I'm like, oh, but I need to 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,600 delve so I can get my more mythic crests and I need to work 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,520 on some more pray because I do genuinely still enjoy pray. 24 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:37,320 But there's just all these other things like OK, we had rituals. 25 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,120 I like ritual sites guy get that up too. 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,320 So there's just, I keep getting distracted because there's so 27 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:45,200 many other little things to do that I haven't just let myself 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,920 just sit down and just enjoy the side quest because there's 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,080 always something else because FOMO, FOMO. 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Wow, OK, we found somebody who likes ritual sites. 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Thank God we're we've been looking. 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,520 We've. Been. 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Looking. Like I I the whole the void 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,000 assault thing where you know, you go to the different sites in 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,680 the zone and like fill up the bar and go. 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,880 That's boring as hell. I don't like that at all. 37 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:12,920 That's I did a couple times. I'm like, I have no desire to do 38 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:14,680 this again. The FOMO be dancing damned. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,280 I don't care. I I don't know. 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,880 It's I also am one of those people that still enjoy Dells. 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,880 Once I get to Villalair 60, which is probably going to be by 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,160 next weekend, if not sooner, then I might be done. 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,760 But I, I don't know ritual sites. 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,800 I just I, I go in, I can zone out. 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,560 It's a way for Taylor's to get an amazing amount of cloth. 46 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:40,960 So there's that going right and yeah, and I'm done. 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,840 And then I move on my life. It's definitely going to get to 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,480 a point where I don't feel the need to do it anymore. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,640 Probably pretty soon, let's be honest, like in the next couple 50 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:55,200 of weeks probably. But I, I don't know why I just, 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,520 I put on music and I chill and I do them. 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,480 I don't know. Nice, right? 53 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:07,720 So for those of the audience that may not know you or need a 54 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:13,680 little bit of a reintroduction, Ali, you are a content creator, 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:19,160 a lap streamer like myself, and you have done many shows. 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:25,440 I first came across you doing a nice little podcast and you've 57 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,000 gone through and done many things, I guess. 58 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,560 So tell us a little bit about your history in content 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 creation. Oh gosh, I'm actually come up on 60 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:36,840 some kind of anniversary for that. 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,680 I think something I don't know, I started about this time in 62 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,160 June 2018, so it's been a bit, but I started with Dungeon 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Fables, which was that solo lore exploration through dungeons and 64 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Braids episode, the episode podcast, which was a lot of 65 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,040 work, but a lot of fun. And then I also joined all 66 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,280 things as Roth with Metros and Toasty did that for quite a long 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,160 time. And then I also started doing 68 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Jen from Morley Gray and I band together and we did Liv La floor 69 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,360 and then I realized I can't do three podcasts. 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,360 That's just too much. So eventually, like I cut back 71 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,680 and cut back and now and then it's Morley Gray for not Morley 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,960 Gray Live La floor for a while, which was fantastic. 73 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,160 And Jen and I had a great time doing that for many years, got 74 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,400 guide each other through COVID doing that and it was a lot of 75 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,120 fun. But it was time to hang that one 76 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,960 up just this year back in February and now I just started 77 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,440 doing a show called after raid with A2 guildies of mine, 78 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Seraphis and Stone Grasp. It's it's just a monthly show, 79 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,560 but it's it's basically the vibe of three friends sitting around 80 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,560 after raid chit chatting. I think there's a little bit of 81 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:03,280 Wow news in there, Stone from back in the days of Wow 82 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,800 challenges and behind the Avatar. 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,160 I think he did that one for a little bit, but he does a lot of 84 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,000 mount collecting, so he talks about that. 85 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,640 I get a little little segment talk about the lore, really 86 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:22,960 random crap that just three friends sitting around on 87 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Discord would talk about after Array was done. 88 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,000 And it's just a fun little monthly get together that we 89 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,840 just started. So that streams over on 90 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:40,200 twitch.tv slash Seraphis and I think about it like we're doing 91 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,240 the center of your service. Yeah. 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,720 So it's on Seraphis channel, but you can also find it wherever 93 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,640 you get your podcasts. I'm gonna eventually get back 94 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,680 into streaming cause I've, I've done some streaming here and 95 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,200 there and it's fun. I have to have the drive and I 96 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,680 haven't quite had the drive, but I've been thinking about it. 97 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,880 So might be returning to streaming at some point in a 98 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:09,480 very very casual manner here and there over on 99 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,440 twitch.tv/alexandros. There you go. 100 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Well, I I think that most most of us know that you are like I 101 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,400 introduced. It's very much about like the 102 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,080 lore and the story of World of Warcraft. 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,480 How have you been enjoying Midnight Story thus far? 104 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,800 I've been enjoying it. It's I'm a little weirded out 105 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:39,240 because as a heroic Raider, which we almost got IOTC 3.5% 106 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,920 wipe last week, we're like a breath away from it. 107 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:51,080 It's painfully close, it hurts. But that aside, it's weird and 108 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,760 that with my love for lore, you would think, oh, cool, the rays 109 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,120 were designed to be more focused on the lower and there's 110 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,560 different locations for lower reasons, and I don't like it. 111 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,080 I don't like having the different locations. 112 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,200 It makes trying to lead a ray really wonky. 113 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 I no, and they're adding another one. 114 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Just just no. But that aside, it's definitely 115 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:21,320 been intriguing. I, I don't quite feel the doom 116 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,080 and gloom that I was expecting like I did for a little while in 117 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,600 the beginning, especially, you know, the intro, everything was 118 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,360 all voiding. The void was attacking. 119 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,760 We got through all the intro stuff. 120 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:41,200 And yes, once we got through raid and got all that and the 121 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,280 sun well turned into the void well, and then all the sky was 122 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,880 purple and it's doom and gloom. But that felt so short lived 123 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,280 that I don't know if I had a chance to really sit with the 124 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,640 doom and gloom and be like, Oh my God, we lost. 125 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Midnight's still young. We still have lots of seasons. 126 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,000 Well, not lots, a couple at least. 127 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,800 So I might still feel more of that later. 128 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,120 But it it cleared itself up much quicker than I was thinking. 129 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,440 And sure, we don't know, like, is a Larry and Charlene alive? 130 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,360 We don't know. There are times it's just about 131 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:17,640 done. Anyways, I'm not feeling the 132 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,960 doom and gloom from the at this moment, but I don't know it's 133 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 that's how I'm feeling. What do you feel about the doom 134 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,280 and gloom of that we're supposed to feel for Midnight? 135 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:33,480 I I don't want to focus on doom and gloom as much as the story 136 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,280 beats don't have impact like you just said, like the doom and 137 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,600 gloom didn't last long enough for you to really feel it. 138 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,240 I think that's the thing. There's the entire, oh, 139 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,320 Terralian slashed his own son and like it. 140 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,560 We don't really feel him living with that. 141 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:51,280 He, we, we see him be like, I'm not going to talk about that 142 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,920 right now. But there wasn't like really him 143 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,760 feeling the guilt and, and that or the strain between his 144 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,720 relationship and aerator, right? Like I thought like, oh, maybe 145 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,040 they would do do more of that, but they just quickly skip to 146 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,560 Oh, and then Leilaria finds out right before we have to fight, 147 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:11,000 which just throws her off balance. 148 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,240 And it's like background voice lines that if you were 149 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,560 concentrating on mechanics you're going to miss and if you 150 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:24,520 are doing just story mode you don't have any chance of 151 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:30,560 catching that. To me is is like disastrous. 152 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:36,480 Like I yes I understand that the raid was split into three parts 153 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,960 and therefore story mode covers like 2 important parts and dream 154 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,480 rift is there right like. For some reason well. 155 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:49,600 We'll, we'll, we'll circle back to Dream Rift, We'll circle back 156 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,280 to Dream Rift. But really the crux of the major 157 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,120 story is carried in the Void Spire into the March of Quelfos 158 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:03,600 and on March on Quelfos. And then we have a two week 159 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:10,320 period or two week in that it was like Raid opened up the 160 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,240 second week. There was the second part of the 161 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,560 story in between, as well as the release of the raid, and to me, 162 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,640 getting the elves together felt rushed. 163 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:29,080 It did, yeah. Right, and I feel like this 164 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,320 isn't spoiler ish, but even after the raid is completed, the 165 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,280 epilogue sort of story that comes up comes after it, which I 166 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,120 won't go into details because I don't want to ruin that for you. 167 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,800 Right, Also felt like it was lacking impact because they're 168 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,080 because they said, OK, well, this is the result. 169 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,560 It's like, OK, but what does that even mean to to like the 170 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:53,360 citizens, the people that are involved, that sort of stuff. 171 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:58,240 There's one, there's one or two things that like happened in the 172 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,480 raid and you're like, oh, that was a cool cinematic, but like 173 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,960 nobody talks about it afterwards. 174 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:12,200 No, they didn't at all. And so that that to me is what 175 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:19,160 has been very strange. I have been used to World of 176 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:26,960 Warcraft at least making the end of a raid kind of have a bit 177 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,000 more of an impact and like, oh, wait for the next patch or like 178 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,840 this is what we're doing and go into into the next expansion. 179 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:41,120 And I feel like that has been lacking in the course of just 180 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,280 this tear. I I don't feel like the 181 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:50,080 levelling was missing that kind of thing because when trialing 182 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,560 did slash down air tour, there was that cool cinematic and 183 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,440 everything. And then you go off and do air 184 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,120 tours story. And yeah, the wound isn't there 185 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,920 anymore, but he's still like, I don't even know. 186 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,440 My dad went off the the the deep end here. 187 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Like, let's what in the world is it about? 188 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,920 So I yeah, it's not that doom and gloom didn't feel it. 189 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,000 It's that I didn't get the chance to feel much of anything 190 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,440 before. They have quickly moved on. 191 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,280 Yeah. With that in mind, though, where 192 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:30,600 do you think generally that the story is going next in? 193 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Because we are now sorry at the time of this recording, 12 point 194 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,320 O .7 will be coming out this coming week and then I expect 195 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,080 fairly quickly we'll get 12.1 on the PTR. 196 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:47,760 But where do you feel the story is going to be going into the 197 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,240 next patch? I would like to say something 198 00:12:52,240 --> 00:13:00,960 with horror and darks. I feel between some of the rift 199 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,160 of on stuff, the some of the comments about the cradle and 200 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,360 the Goddess and all this, it just it left some little 201 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,640 question marks here and there that my tinfoil mind wanted to 202 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,520 kind of spiral about and really dive into be like, oh, what does 203 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,480 this mean? So I feel like there's still 204 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,560 some pieces that could fit in with Harandar and make Harandar 205 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,720 matter more. Whole of the more whole than. 206 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Yeah, yeah. So there's that, but I think 207 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Blizzard has an interesting opportunity to continue to use 208 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,120 the lore of the past like they have here and there to wrap up 209 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:49,960 some loose ends. But with a lot of you know, we 210 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:55,600 know there's some troll stuff coming up right with twelve O 7. 211 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,000 They've they've already announced that. 212 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,480 I think it's interesting and a Lor bit that a lot of people 213 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:08,800 don't know is that the corpse of Kithic is around, like Zola man 214 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,560 was basically built on the corpse of Kithic. 215 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:21,000 And with Zalatas piercing out. I don't know. 216 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,920 I just, I feel like that could come into play and that brings 217 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,760 in again, some allure from the past for them to utilize, which 218 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,000 I would like. And I want to see because I've 219 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 done it a little bit here and there with like Argentina and 220 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,200 some stuff from Tear when we brought him back and then he got 221 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,560 benched already. So like they have an opportunity 222 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,080 to use some stuff from the past. So I want to see what they might 223 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,440 do with that. That's one of my current 224 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,800 theories. What are you thinking? 225 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,560 I mean, there are a lot of flags for more things with Solomon and 226 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,680 that's island off the coast of Solomon. 227 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,560 It's. Very clearly there on the map. 228 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Yeah, the the stuff coming in 12 point O 7 uses some things from 229 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,560 both Solomon and hard and are kind of pulling those two 230 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,920 together. But like I have also seen a lot 231 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,640 of a lot of things in the War Within where it's like, and this 232 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,480 comes out of left field. Yeah, yeah. 233 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:33,000 So it it just becomes a lot harder to to like take any of 234 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:39,960 this earmarking when the last expansion was very a very 235 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,840 fragmented story. But assuming that it's not going 236 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,120 to be like that. Yeah, I would think that it's 237 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,720 more of the trolls. It's bringing a bit of stuff 238 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:59,560 with like with that, I would think that the Haarendar stuff 239 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:07,280 is being used as a long sort of introduction to stuff. 240 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,720 So we've talked about the Cradle. 241 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,280 We talked about how only two of the raids are really continuing 242 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,680 the main story and if you do the dream rift and you just do the 243 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,040 dream of straight, you don't get any real story. 244 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,400 However, the lead into the dream rift is by doing the HAR and our 245 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,880 weekly quest every week until you get through to the locked 246 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,920 items and then those will eventually lead you into the 247 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,960 raid. So for people who have maybe 248 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,840 ignored that, that raid has no story. 249 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,880 For people who have done that, OK, this is a full lead in more 250 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,520 similar to like older expansions where they did take a while to 251 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,440 lead you into the raid. We'll see how that fits in with 252 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,200 Sporefall coming out pretty soon. 253 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,520 But because they're taking that long burn approach to the harder 254 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,880 stuff that to end because it is so connected with like the world 255 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,079 soul and and what happened there, I think that is going to 256 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:12,040 be more of a long burn. That's the will come that will 257 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:18,480 be relevant either in the final patch or even leading into the 258 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,760 last Titan as well. Yeah, Midnight has that awkward 259 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,520 job of being the the middle kid, right? 260 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:31,360 Because it has to hyperthin and bring Morrison story forward, 261 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,960 but also has to not only continue the story into last 262 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Titan and kind of lay down that foundation for last Titan, but I 263 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,360 also feel like they might be planting, continuing to plant 264 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:48,160 seeds for life after the last Titan. 265 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,320 So I feel like Midnight has this awkward burden with being that 266 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,320 middle of the saga. So I'm definitely curious to see 267 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,560 where it's going to go. And I absolutely agree with you. 268 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,960 I feel like because of all that unlock stuff, if you haven't 269 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,640 done it yet, go do it. Because it was, it was fun, it 270 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,720 was interesting go read the little things in each of them. 271 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:14,040 It was really cool. But I, I think you're right, I 272 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,840 think it's going to come into play and be really important. 273 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:24,240 And I think people just don't expect the long, long burn 274 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,320 because it's definitely harder, has definitely been trashed on a 275 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,720 bit by the community. Honestly, if you want to roll 276 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,360 like a harder, you're like, oh, I'm going to do my harder druid 277 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:37,640 or whatever thing. You know, you owe it to yourself 278 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,720 to do those weeklies because the harder starting experience 279 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,040 doesn't contain the story of the harder. 280 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:51,200 It's all in that that weekly thing, which is like a very like 281 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,720 it's unprecedented is what it is that they that they would put 282 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,720 the story of the entirety of like the race and their purpose 283 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:03,080 and what leads into the raid into this this little weekly 284 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:11,440 lock lockout. So then talking about the 285 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,480 overarching story, because we we've got the war within. 286 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,320 We're now in midnight, which is basically doing the job of like 287 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:25,800 the Empire Strikes Back. How do you feel like the at this 288 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,840 point in the world soul saga? How do you feel that it's been 289 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,720 going kind of like quick little like retrospective on the war 290 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,560 within and this first chapter here? 291 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,640 I feel like it's been an interesting endeavour because we 292 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,480 we know they tend to work on expansions, you know, a few 293 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,960 ahead and that kind of thing. This is our first actual like 294 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:55,320 trilogy saga that was built that way and I feel like it's going 295 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:00,520 all right. I kind of wonder if doing the 296 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,080 saga this way, having it be this trilogy. 297 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:12,080 Kind of force them to move certain things around and hold 298 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,240 off on different things and in the end they'll all, you know, 299 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,120 come together nicely. But you know, for example, going 300 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:25,920 back to the Har N Deer, like we all expected a lot more of them 301 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,080 in the war within. Seems like it got moved over to 302 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:38,040 Midnight and it feels like they're just covering so many 303 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,400 things and there's so many. There's like plot a plot BA 304 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,240 little like C&D plot off here and there. 305 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:55,720 And as individual plots, I do find them interesting and I'm 306 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,760 intrigued and I want to know more, but curious know if 307 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 they're all going to weave together more eventually or if 308 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,840 we're just going to continue to get all these plots everywhere 309 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:14,280 that might eventually wrap up. OK, Yeah, yeah, there, there are 310 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:21,400 a lot of pans in the fire there. There's a lot of plates spinning 311 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,640 and and you're, you wonder if any of them are are being 312 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,920 ignored, if they're all going to come together at some point. 313 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,880 I get that. What would you, what would be 314 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:37,000 your hope that we get for the conclusion of midnight before 315 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,720 the last time? Where do you think? 316 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Because like it just, I don't think anybody has a good guess 317 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,840 of where they're going to end midnight. 318 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,200 But where, where would you like it to be this sort of like 319 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,680 pinfoil hat on sort of thing like OK, this is this is it. 320 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:55,840 This is how we're going to do it. 321 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:03,120 That is a fantastic question. I I want to see the end of 322 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:08,200 Zalitath, which coming from a shadow priest who's had a lot of 323 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,920 fun with Zalitath over the years. 324 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,440 A lot of fun. Made a little too much fun at 325 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,280 times. It feels weird to say that, but 326 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,320 also we've seen the past where if one villain is focused on for 327 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,960 too long, it gets it gets a little long on the tooth, it 328 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,120 gets a little boring. It's like, OK, Yep, Zalatas 329 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:25,720 scheming. She's doing her thing, she's 330 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,960 playing her 5-10 D chess. Like at some point I want to see 331 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,560 her killed and I also still want to know more about her 332 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,560 background, but that's now they're here or there. 333 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,840 I think the end of midnight needs to see her death and I 334 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,160 think it needs to be epic and awesome. 335 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:52,480 But I also kind of wonder, because she is playing whatever 336 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,480 game she's playing, if maybe killing her would signal 337 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,520 something really bad and that would bring us into the last 338 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,800 time. And that would be maybe our big 339 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:09,320 like we really did lose at midnight and not just the the 340 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,480 little bit of a loss we felt in this first year. 341 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:22,360 How do you want to see it end? OK, this is this is AI think 342 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:29,240 along the same lines as you, where I don't want Xalataf to 343 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,840 fall into the same vein as the jailer. 344 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,480 And the reason that I felt that the jailer ended up very flat is 345 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,440 that he would show up and be like, ho ho, ho, I'm menacing. 346 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,200 And that'd be like, OK, cool, you're menacing. 347 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,480 And then he would do that five more times. 348 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,800 He'd be like, yeah, I get that you're supposed to be menacing, 349 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,160 but why? And so the why of Zalitaf, I 350 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,400 think needs to be explored sooner than later. 351 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,640 We've yeah, we've already seen like a little bit of her 352 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,800 history, like, oh, she was work. She was there at the at the fall 353 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,840 of this world, and she was there and trapped into the blade. 354 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:16,960 And that's like, but why was she opposing the Old Gods when she 355 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,320 was there at the fall of the world? 356 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,920 What was she trying to accomplish? 357 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:26,280 Is that what her goal is now? That stuff, I think needs to 358 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,880 come out. Definitely. 359 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:33,040 Yeah. And if they could do that, that 360 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:41,360 to me will validate Zalitath. They, if at that point her plans 361 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:51,440 get foiled, if at that point she dies, if at that point they say, 362 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,520 oh, OK, well, now we know what her ultimate plan is. 363 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,440 We have to do. We have to go for this. 364 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480 No more cloak and dagger. This is a straight, this is a 365 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,200 straight out fight. That to me would be enough to 366 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,680 carry Zalitath. Two, I think one of the better 367 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,360 done villains like you, you can have a sort of slow burn with 368 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:21,400 these villains. Nobody was tired of Zalitaf when 369 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,840 she was in the dagger, right? Nobody was tired of Zalitaf when 370 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,760 she got out of the dagger and disappeared. 371 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,400 I think it's just that she's being stuck in the same state of 372 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,840 like maniacal ho ho, ho. I didn't account for you or I've 373 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,960 accounted for five different things that you haven't. 374 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,880 I'm sorry, you go ho ho ho, and I get this weird image of some 375 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,880 kind of Voity Santa Zalitas combination because my brain's 376 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,040 weird and that was fantastic. There you go. 377 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,640 We'll we'll do a a Zalitas with like a little Christmas hat on. 378 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,880 Yeah. Which you? 379 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Can make it purple, you can make it voity. 380 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,920 Yep, it'll have instead of like the little star on the end, 381 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,120 it'll have like a black hole. Yes, that'd be amazing. 382 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,320 Anyway, sorry. But like she's been stuck in the 383 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,920 I'm trying to be enigmatic phase, unknowable. 384 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Like, oh, what's what? Yeah, for a long time now. 385 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,640 Yeah, and that's why she's getting tiresome. 386 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:32,300 If you were further exploring her or exploring her quote UN 387 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:35,360 quote rivalry, because back in the war within they said, oh, 388 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:39,840 we're going to be talking about the rivalry between Zalitath and 389 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,480 Illyria. And then Illyria, who's now 390 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,360 being sidelined, may be dead or who knows. 391 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Either way, she's missing in action. 392 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,560 The ultimate end to that thread was no, actually, I didn't ever 393 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,880 care about you. It was always about the narrow 394 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,240 inside of you. It's like, well, I wish you had 395 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,520 done a bit more rivalry sort of thing in that and like that to 396 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:12,040 me would have it would have made the like, why the hell do you 397 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,800 did you think that I cared about you? 398 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,440 Get over yourself would have made that like that much, that 399 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,520 much sweeter. But I guess that falls back 400 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,080 onto, I think that this storyline has a lot of good 401 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,280 ideas in it and a lot of good concepts. 402 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:37,320 But the exposition, the explanation has been lacking and 403 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:45,680 the speed has been so has been elevated that the typical story 404 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,880 guys like your yourself haven't had the time to be like, pick a 405 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,560 part and be like, oh, what did this line mean? 406 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,120 What did this line mean? Like Discordian Kitty, I I, I 407 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,800 know, I, I know you want to make like a 27 lore videos, but 408 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,960 they're they got to give you some of the work with Yeah. 409 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,520 That's true. Well, and I also, I feel like 410 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,440 the narrative team's almost taking on too much at this point 411 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,240 because yes, while Mattson talks about wanting to wrap up all the 412 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,720 loose ends, they're still, they still have a ton of loose ends 413 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,640 to wrap up. Like Denathrius, who's still 414 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,880 alive somewhere, Like they have so many loose ends to still wrap 415 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,880 up things that they already built up and then just left it 416 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,920 loose. And they're adding more. 417 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,600 And so I feel like they're just taking on so much and we're not 418 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,000 getting enough answers enough like meaty context for it, you 419 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,080 know? Yeah, I would. 420 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:45,080 I would really like to. I would really like them to stop 421 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,240 doing the throwaway hench men that they have been doing for 422 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:58,080 let's say 3 expansions now. If not like the I mean like the 423 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,680 but like. The Army of the Jailer, they 424 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,000 were basically soul powered constructs. 425 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,200 So like you weren't expecting much from them and the those 426 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:18,040 soul powered constructs were augmented by like the corrupted 427 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,240 or turned versions from every set of the shadow lands. 428 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,800 So there was reasons behind them. 429 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:32,200 You're like, oh, he got the like the the half the forces in in 430 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,440 one place to turn against each other. 431 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,120 Like when you go to the Necrolords, like they became 432 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,800 they in begin began infighting and their leader was gone. 433 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,720 So he was like, Oh yeah, let me take care of that. 434 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,560 He turned, he turned the half of Bastion against itself. 435 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,400 He had the I don't, I don't want to talk about the trust that 436 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,760 much because they it upsets me that they disappeared, Right. 437 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,360 Yeah, but like the dressed we're following and and that sort of 438 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000 stuff. But like alongside that, which 439 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,320 those guys I felt were decently fleshed out, you get the like 440 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,280 the I can't even remember their name. 441 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,680 They were the Elementalists or the shamans that follow the 442 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,960 incarnations, right? Right. 443 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,760 They showed up at the free patch in the beginning and there was 444 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,400 no reason behind what the hell they were doing or why they had 445 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,480 come together OK, other than they just wanted a force that 446 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,960 could like fight, fight against us. 447 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,680 And then we go to the war within. 448 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,720 And like, yes, we got a little bit of explanation of the 449 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,520 Nerubians. And obviously with Gazlow's 450 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,200 forces, sure, but the Shadow Guard, which bled into this 451 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:05,480 expansion, I wanted to know more about like why they're fighting 452 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:11,320 on Zalataf's side. What what the King Saladar 453 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,800 wanted on on a deal. Like if he got that power, what 454 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,960 was he going to do? What it like those smaller 455 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,760 characters could have been more fleshed out and that to me would 456 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,240 have made me care more about about them or like be more 457 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,760 invested in the fight against them at least. 458 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,400 And through through that, you can sort of explain a bit more 459 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,400 of like Zalitaf. Like it's like, oh, like Zalitaf 460 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760 isn't just trying to like have everything reduced to nothing, 461 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,640 like the void consumes all. No, she's trying to like save 462 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,840 some people, the people who are willing to do what it takes, 463 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,360 like they'll follow her. And that to me would make make 464 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,280 it be like, oh, like, wait, So what is Zelataf like fighting 465 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,360 against, you know, which is a story for a later expansion sort 466 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,440 of thing. What? 467 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,400 Which character would you want more explored? 468 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,000 Or even a faction would you want more explored before we get to 469 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,480 the end of the world Soul saga? Pardon, dear. 470 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,200 For sure. Just because they have been 471 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:28,440 around as Roth for so long and they there's just so much that 472 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,480 yeah, there's a lot they probably don't know as they've 473 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,040 just been, you know, in their own place. 474 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,960 But I feel like they could be utilized to learn so much more 475 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,520 about the history of Azeroth. For sure. 476 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,080 Them. That's the first one that came 477 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,200 to mind. I'm sure there's another one, 478 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,040 but I will think about that as you share with me what you're 479 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,240 thinking. OK, so from like the from like 480 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,040 the World Soul Saga, they started on the ervin and dropped 481 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,360 the ervin. And I kind of want them to like 482 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,720 come back in the picture, if not just to be justified in their 483 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,160 inclusion, because at this point it feels so throw away. 484 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,160 And because they're not the Darlings of the new expansion, 485 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,480 they they've been left in the dust. 486 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,120 That to me feels really, really bad. 487 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,200 If I had to go with an OG, like if I had to like continue with 488 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,000 the War within, I guess you've brought every L faction into 489 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,480 play. Do something with, right? 490 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960 You already talked about the HAR and DAR. 491 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:55,440 I have I hopes, I still have hopes for the the Armani and the 492 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,800 different tribes in there Do do do go ahead and do those side 493 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,680 quests because I felt that that they did a good job with the 494 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,840 Armani. Strangely I feel like the Blood 495 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,800 Helms are getting decent service in terms of like their story 496 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:17,320 progression. The void elves are sort of being 497 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,080 brought along with them as like two sides of the same coin even 498 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,760 though they should not be getting equal balance. 1 is a 499 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:33,560 splinter of of like, I don't know, maybe a couple dozen 500 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:39,440 people that were part of the the tragic events that turned them 501 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:46,120 into the void elves. So I don't expect to see like 502 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,320 armies upon armies of void Els. They should be very much of a 503 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:55,120 small elite force that you could probably get a accounting of 504 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:04,760 without much without much work. I guess at that, at that point, 505 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,200 that's what I would want for the War Within if I had to like go 506 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,080 and say like, Hey, what's the next, next thing that you should 507 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,040 do? Like the Rathi pushed him off 508 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,280 Like the Rathi? OK, now I was going to actually 509 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,080 just mention the Rathi. Why do you want to push the 510 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,320 Rathi off? I feel like with us going to 511 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:30,760 North Rend in the last Titan true with us dealing with that 512 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:37,440 sort of stuff, the Rathi can be a good seed for a post last 513 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,960 Titan world. I would love to go to the Rathi 514 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:51,040 empire and not have it be like a mini like a middle patch within 515 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,600 the last Titan like we're going to go to north rend. 516 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,880 I'd love the continent or landmass that the Arathi are on 517 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,720 to be a its own world and ecosystem and not just like a 518 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:06,560 little island where it's like, yeah, we got our castle here and 519 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,720 that's it for the Rathi. It's like what? 520 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,000 No, no, no, no, no. You guys need to rival the 521 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,120 forces of Lord Iran and Storm and combined. 522 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,640 You need to be you need to be like a major player on the 523 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,960 continent. I don't want them fully like 524 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,680 they could be the biggest player on the continent, but I don't 525 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,880 want to be the only player on the continent. 526 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,680 Then there's like, as much as they say, oh, we want to like, 527 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,880 plant seeds for the future, They've already been doing that. 528 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,200 We've had, like, green Dragons that went overseas. 529 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,840 We've had the pirates that, like, somehow travelled the 530 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,560 storm. Yeah. 531 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,440 Yeah. All of those, like I could 532 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,480 imagine those all having found the continent that the Arathi 533 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,640 Empire was on and being factions and stuff. 534 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:58,520 I would love if the Arathi were we're fighting against like the 535 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:06,880 pirate nation as it were kind of bralessy, but like the but like 536 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,640 the pirate nation I would think of as like trade Princess, but 537 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,800 like on the on the coastal lines and stuff would be a great way 538 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,080 of differentiating between forces. 539 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,920 Anyways that's why I that's why I want the Arathi later because 540 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,720 I want more of them than a mid patch faction. 541 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,480 True. And I'll totally give you that 542 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,440 because I was thinking that we definitely need more Arathi 543 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,160 because it's kind of a big deal. There's this whole Arathi empire 544 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,040 and they brought up enough back story for it in War Within that. 545 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480 There's got to be more coming to us at some point, but I've been 546 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,760 trying to figure out where it would fit in and how like if 547 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,040 it's just going to be a random patch, just kind of like 548 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,720 Undermine was, or if it is going to be something bigger. 549 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:07,120 And now that you have said that, I do see and agree with you how 550 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,800 holding on to it is a good thing because it should be a full 551 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,520 patch. I don't, I don't know if it's 552 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:27,120 interesting enough to have that be what we build for post last 553 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:36,720 Titan per SE, but I also in general cannot imagine what will 554 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:41,400 happen after last Titan because for a while there I was thinking 555 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,400 maybe a wrath. He could be during the last 556 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,880 Titan but I can see them possibly pushing it off. 557 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,760 I'm really torn now at what I want from the Arathi. 558 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,080 It's all your fault, Manny. I I'm going to, I'm going to put 559 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400 my tinfoil hat back on. I'm going to spin you this tail 560 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,040 and. Bring it, bring it. 561 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,560 Let me see. It so just like we travelled to 562 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,640 the Dragon Isles to find the lost homeland of the Dragons, we 563 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,920 travel across the sea, past the storm to the lost Arathi Empire. 564 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:20,680 There we find the Arathi embroiled in a war of the 565 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,280 throne, because there are different houses in the Arathi. 566 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,080 OK. And so we befriend one house, 567 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,080 which we have our introduction in to. 568 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,840 But then the we also find that we're not the first people from 569 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,200 Calendar and Eastern Kingdoms to arrive. 570 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:46,720 No, the Red Dawn has collide themselves with one house and 571 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:51,720 that has caused much of the Rathi to turn a bad eye against 572 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:55,480 both the Alliance and the Horde. The Horde they are not one of 573 00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,000 the pure races of the Rathi, they are neither elf nor nor 574 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,280 human. Meanwhile, the Alliance, they 575 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,160 fraternize with these lesser people, the gnomes, the the, 576 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:13,840 the, the, the night elves and and even Aradar. 577 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,600 Right. And so we do not have the 578 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,320 warmest welcome. It's a hostile territory. 579 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,920 Meanwhile, the empire they're at, the empire is beset by, like 580 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,160 they're resurging foes from the old days. 581 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200 And the Dragons are starting to stir. 582 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:38,160 The, the, the splinter group of the green Dragons are starting 583 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,280 to stir. And in that you can have many 584 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,080 different stories. But what we also find out is 585 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,000 that the Empire is becoming far more powerful because they are 586 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,560 tapping into the light in a way never seen before. 587 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,400 This is when we start seeing more of that harsh light that 588 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,400 has been hinted at at the beginning of midnight. 589 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,160 Yeah, OK, OK. And so that that's where I would 590 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,440 like it to you go. Now that the Titans are dealt 591 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,120 with in the last Titan and they no longer have their 592 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,360 stranglehold upon the world soul. 593 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,720 Now the other powers start to make their move. 594 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,800 Life with these overtaken green Dragons light in the Arathi 595 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,680 empire with like far more direct influence, which causes a crisis 596 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,200 of faith with villain and and all the followers of the light. 597 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,120 This like I think this is there's like a lot of a lot of 598 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,160 things that you can build like the entire expansion about, not 599 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,240 just the patch. OK, I can see it now. 600 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:42,400 Let me let me ask you a question then. 601 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,200 You're talking about the green Dragons here. 602 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,600 Yeah. We went through that whole thing 603 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,320 in Dragonflight where we empowered our dragon friends. 604 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,720 Well, we helped Azaroth empowered them. 605 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,400 That's fine. We went through the whole thing. 606 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,760 They're empowered every red chron pieced out right through 607 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,440 the Void, Tear, whatever style test, whatever icon is doing. 608 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,120 Do you think that the dragon aspects come back in last Titan 609 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,640 to save the day and Ridicron comes back because he's trying 610 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,560 to fight off the Titans and like you know Amanthol and all them? 611 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,320 Or are they saving the dragon aspects for post last Titan for 612 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,160 your scenario here? I think that Tear and the 613 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,920 dragon, the dragon aspects are going to help in the last I I 614 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,120 would push position them in the last Titan and then I would have 615 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:37,320 it be an entire thing where it's like, wait a second, the star in 616 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,000 the sky fades away and out come the the Titans themselves. 617 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:50,840 And they direct the keepers right to to like reinforce the 618 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,240 matrix or whatever they were using the like seal away the 619 00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:01,920 world's world's soul and like and like deal with this because 620 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,680 like the threat of Zalata has become too, too much. 621 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,720 Or even if she dies at the at the end of at the end of 622 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:16,280 midnight, she breaks part of the Titans mechanism. 623 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,240 And so they're like, OK, no, no, no, we need to we're going to 624 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:21,920 like flat out like re originate or whatever. 625 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,640 And so now the aspects are like, no, no, no, you, you can't wipe 626 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,520 out all life just to like keep keep the world soul the way you 627 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,040 wanted it. We realize you've been corrupt, 628 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,280 corrupting it. Tear decides to stand with the 629 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,680 dragon aspects and as Ross humanity and people to fight 630 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,400 against that. The Titans fighting against us 631 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,960 and now we're on the wrong side. And the keepers, what side do 632 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,600 they fall on? The rest of the keepers? 633 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,640 They end up fighting against us and that would be like a cool 634 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,600 like throwback to their old. I like it. 635 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,640 But this time, they're not corrupted by an old God. 636 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,120 I can get on board with this. That would work, and that would 637 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,000 be solid stuff for post Last Titan. 638 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,640 What would you name that expansion? 639 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,640 The expansion after Last Titan? What would you name it? 640 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,600 Give it all this Arathi stuff. Give it all. 641 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,120 Give it, give me your whole scenario here that you're coming 642 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,640 up with. Oh man, I what kind of name 643 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:34,440 would they go with? Like like a New light, The 644 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,640 Empire Strikes Back. The New Empire. 645 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,880 The New Empire, I I think there's I I'm not going to go 646 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,840 into marketing. I'm sure they could work up with 647 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,880 some amazing names. I just feel like I I love I love 648 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,040 spitballing stories and all of this sort of stuff. 649 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,800 The thing that I didn't talk about, though, is a Ridicron. 650 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:02,480 Yeah, and I would put a Ridicron actually post last Titan. 651 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:08,640 I think that he he got he gets to come in most last time be 652 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,480 like I told you so I told you that as soon as your your ideals 653 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,920 didn't align with the Titans, they were going to turn around 654 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,720 and kick your butt. And you are lucky to have 655 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,480 survived. Now I'm going to lead you to the 656 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,280 proper future. And then we all know that his 657 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,040 proper future is not anything we want and he gets to be the big 658 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,360 bad that he deserve to be. OK, he does deserve that because 659 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,280 I definitely, you know, he, he got a little bit of a build up 660 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,400 there. Then let me let me ask this 661 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,760 then, because you know, he, he pieced out through void terror, 662 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,680 right? Lady Ashara also kind of pieced 663 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,400 out through void terror. When does Lady Ashara come back? 664 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,920 Is Lady Ashara gonna be saved? Or are we randomly going to get 665 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,400 some Lady Ashara soon considering that we had this 666 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520 whole Not a Presence off the coast of Ever Song? 667 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:10,120 I would I would like for her to be a post last Titan. 668 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,040 I think that she got to be a mid boss. 669 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:21,800 I think that there can be an entire not a takeover sort of 670 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:28,440 thing where where it becomes like a OK like he fled her 671 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,160 eternal palace. Where did she go? 672 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:36,640 She she hasn't been back there since and she gets to do a big 673 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,680 I'm I'm going to take over ass off now, now that I'm not 674 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,280 shackled by the old gods, right, My people will finally take 675 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:52,320 their their rightful place sort of thing, and I think that can 676 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,720 be in the future. I'd I like it could be if they 677 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,640 tease it right, like it wouldn't be last Titan. 678 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,640 She could be either like I, I I feel like they've used too much 679 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,960 of her for her to be a full expansion boss, like the the 680 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,280 boss at the end of an expansion like Lich King, like any of 681 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,320 those people before. But I think she could be built 682 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,480 in between things and be like a mid expansion. 683 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,040 Like let's say we've got the Ridicron thing and she's like 684 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,480 Ridicron, like sit down, kid, I'm I'm taking over. 685 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,360 And like, so we have to defeat her first, but then Irriticon is 686 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,560 like, well, thanks for taking care of my competition. 687 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,920 She was the only thing standing in my way. 688 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,040 And then we have to deal with Irriticon afterwards. 689 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,920 Like, I think she can be like that, that level only because I 690 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,000 just don't want. I feel like they've used her too 691 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,400 much and the only reason that they could have her as the final 692 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:56,320 big bad would have to be after we've given her enough time away 693 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,480 from the spotlight. Yeah, for sure. 694 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:03,800 And I do agree she's not full expansion baddy kind of level. 695 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,800 I have been trying to figure out if there's reason to get like a 696 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,760 full not a patch again, and that would be when she comes back for 697 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,360 like just that patch and she'd be the final boss of that patch. 698 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,480 But I don't know where a not a patch would fit in. 699 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:24,600 Yeah, I, I honestly think that you can't even do a not a patch 700 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,160 because we have done a not a patch. 701 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,240 We've had not a in so many different places. 702 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:33,080 So for me, it would be almost like a dark transformation sort 703 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,480 of thing where she like further evolves the not a into like some 704 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,840 new untested threat where it's like, oh, like she took this 705 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,840 this she took the blade that that fell from Zalitath. 706 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,800 It's like, shoot, yeah, she would know how to use that 707 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,040 because she's been studying it for thousands of years and was 708 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,320 originally going to use it for NASA and stuff. 709 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,980 And so she uses that, does a dark transformation on the, not 710 00:48:57,980 --> 00:49:01,640 A, and now it's like, whoa, wait a second, these are like not a 711 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:10,960 Plus Plus. I can see so in in your the New 712 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,480 Light expansion, whatever we're going to call it, if we have to 713 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,880 cross the ocean with Night Squaw or whatever to get to the Rathi 714 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:27,560 Empire, I can see some dark empowered not a causing issues 715 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,040 with that. I don't know if Ashara would 716 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,800 come around at that point but I can see some like new newly 717 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,760 Ashara empowered not a getting in the way of our crossing the 718 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:45,680 ocean with Night Squaw. I, I think that that's 719 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,680 definitely something, I think another thing you can do is sort 720 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:55,280 of her finding a different power than the void because she's 721 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,400 always been connected with the old gods. 722 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,200 Or even if it was like, because like, yeah, if he dropped the 723 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,520 void, it was like, oh, I'm free of the void. 724 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,680 And now we're embracing like arcane power. 725 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,080 And so now we've got like not a with constructs where they're 726 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:18,800 like either using arcane power or something, or like they're 727 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,120 tapping into some font of life and now they're like life 728 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,760 infused so that it changes their theming a bit more. 729 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,000 That would, I think that would also be somewhat cool. 730 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,280 Like I think that it's like what we need to see from them is 731 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,760 either stepping higher into the powers that they're that they're 732 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,680 associated with or changing alignment. 733 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,640 And that would that kind of novelty would adjust them. 734 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,080 Like what would you, what would you have if the not a, instead 735 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,000 of being connected with the old Gods, we're now connected with 736 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,240 order. We're now connected with light. 737 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,640 We're now connected with with like death. 738 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,480 Like, oh wow, the not a are now connected to true death and not 739 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,200 that fact similarly that you know of from the shadow lands, 740 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,320 True death. What does true death look like? 741 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080 That'd be cool. I like it. 742 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,360 So many things. I could do so many things. 743 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,440 But yeah, I, I'm really glad that I got to sit down with you 744 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,880 and do this kind of talk because we had like a loose idea. 745 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,320 We had a loose, loose plan. And then we just dove right into 746 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,640 so much lore. So much. 747 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,200 And this is being great. I do want to throw a little 748 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,560 curveball question at you just. Before we. 749 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,040 Go. So World of Warcraft is great. 750 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,640 We love it. But Blizzard has a lot of IPS. 751 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,240 And one question that kind of came up in the for Asraw discord 752 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,920 was what if Blizzard farmed out one of its IPS to allow a 753 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,640 different company to create a story based game for it? 754 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:11,360 What IP would you love to see it's a story based game for from 755 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,720 Blizzard's. From Blizzard's entire catalog 756 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,040 except the World of Warcraft. Can I have two answers? 757 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,240 You can have two answers. OK, very first one that comes to 758 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:28,000 mind because this is something I've wanted for a while and this 759 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,440 is like a huge call back that not everyone even knows is 760 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:38,320 technically a Blizzard IP. Rock'n'roll Racing, which is 761 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,760 like, I think, if not their first thing, like one of their 762 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,680 first things. Back when it before his Blizzard 763 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,080 was still a synapse, whatever, right? 764 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,760 It was on SESNES, like it was. It was so much fun. 765 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:56,760 The music was awesome, and I've always wanted a new one of those 766 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,640 with new awesome music and they could do so many things with it. 767 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,040 Granted, I'm easily mused, but give me a new Rock'n'roll 768 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,280 Racing, I'd be so happy. So, so happy. 769 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:14,000 Wow OK you know like I could see them doing a story mode for 770 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,080 that. I mean they are doing virtual 771 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,840 fighter as a story mode where it's where. 772 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,200 So like if they can do Virtue fighter with a follows along 773 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,480 story, I think they can do Rock'n'roll racing with the 774 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,560 follow along story. Yeah, like you, you build up 775 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,200 your own car along the way and that's they can easily 776 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,680 incorporate story mode for that. And then you have to go into 777 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,720 these races to get more money to do that and whatever. 778 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,280 Like if you ever play the Saints Row games, like you could just 779 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,880 steal cars and do all sorts of things to your cars. 780 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,880 Have fun with it. It'd be great. 781 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,520 I unless the music would just be as long as it has an epic, just 782 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,200 awesome rock'n'roll soundtrack, fantastic. 783 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:57,560 I'd be so happy, so happy. And then my other answer is 784 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:03,800 honestly Heroes of the Storm, because there was a like, I 785 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,000 stopped playing after a while just because I, I only have so 786 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,520 many hours in a day and I only have so much gaming time. 787 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,800 But I, I was like, here was the storm and I was sad when it was 788 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,160 done well put into maintenance mode. 789 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:22,560 And I feel it would be so fun to incorporate some kind of story 790 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,280 mode with that, with all these different Blizzard IPS coming 791 00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,080 together. I don't know what that would 792 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:33,320 look like, but I feel they had so much fun with the voice lines 793 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,520 alone in Heroes of the Storm that they could have a lot of 794 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,200 fun with a story mode kind of thing for it. 795 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,720 Feel like if if it was heroes of the storm I would just want them 796 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:49,040 to do like a little mini series more than I would want a story 797 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,840 driven game for heroes in the storm. 798 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,840 Fair. Rock'n'roll Racing. 799 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,200 I, I I'm 100% with you. Like, just like you go to the 800 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,800 shop and you're like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to win the 801 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,800 next race and I'm going to make a name for myself. 802 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,280 And you go up against the characters from Rock'n'roll 803 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,520 Racing while you're making a name for yourself on the scene. 804 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,920 Wow, yeah, those are two great, great ones. 805 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,360 What would you do for me? Yeah, you got to answer too, 806 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,120 man. OK, all right, all right. 807 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,600 If I were to do just a show I would want Overwatch because I'm 808 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,280 tired of waiting for them to do any single player with that 809 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,120 game. And I like those. 810 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,960 Characters look so cool. That would be fun. 811 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,080 I'd play that. I'd totally play that. 812 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:47,280 I feel like they keep like right now StarCraft feels semi retired 813 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,440 and I think that if they were to do the story of like ghosts or, 814 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,200 or like because like that was a game that never came out right? 815 00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:01,600 Like just like I mean, there's so many 40K games that are just 816 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,360 like I'm a grunt running around and keep that against the entire 817 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,760 thing. Give me that, but just put it in 818 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,120 the StarCraft universe. So yes, it feels retired, but I 819 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,360 feel like StarCraft is kind of heavily featured on the key art 820 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,120 for BlizzCon 2026. I feel like we're getting a 821 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,880 StarCraft announcement. So hold, hold, hold the horses 822 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,760 there with that retirement speak. 823 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,040 What's your favorite candy bar? That's random. 824 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,120 I have so many. I'm going to say Snickers 825 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,480 because that was the first one that came to mind. 826 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:38,200 OK, there is any StarCraft new title at BlizzCon? 827 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,400 I will buy you Snickers. OK, sounds like a deal. 828 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,400 I'll get your I'll get your address after the show. 829 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:47,760 What is yours? What is? 830 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,760 What is yours? Oh, man, I don't eat much candy 831 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,920 bars. I'm going to say, man, yeah, I 832 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,440 don't, you know? Chips. 833 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,640 I was going to say Hiroshay, which is not my favorite candy 834 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,280 bar. It's my, it's my partners. 835 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,840 I mean, those are really good. I got it. 836 00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:24,200 Yeah, yeah, my mom loves Bounty. Like honestly, I just don't. 837 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,720 I like, I like, like chocolate bars are cool and everything. 838 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,160 I just don't have like a favorite one that sticks out. 839 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,720 My problems I have too many. I like that's that's a problem 840 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:38,040 for so many reasons. I got to send you some like 841 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,000 Canadiana like. Problem is shipping the namo 842 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,320 bars out to you would be like Nah impossible. 843 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,920 True. We'll figure it out. 844 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,600 I'm I'll, I'll talk to our mutual friend about about 845 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:57,400 getting this stuff out to you. But yeah, I'll figure that out 846 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,920 another day. All right, We'll see if we get 847 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,440 any. We'll see see if we get any of 848 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,800 the StarCraft at BlizzCon 2026. I assume you're going to be 849 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,920 there. I am. 850 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,200 Beautiful, so you guys can say hello to Ally at BlizzCon if 851 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,000 you're going, but if they want to see you online, where can 852 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,400 they find you? Well, our next recording of 853 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,840 After Raid is on the 19th at 1:00 PM Eastern over on 854 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,720 twitch.tv/seraphis. That's CERPHU. 855 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:40,240 Wait, CERAPHUS? Yes, and otherwise I'll 856 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:46,600 eventually start streaming again over on twitch.tv/alejandros and 857 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,840 whenever I decide to be active again on socials, you can find 858 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:55,080 me on Twitter at Alejandros K and on Blue Sky at Alejandros. 859 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,320 Go, but until next time guys, may all your hits be goods.