1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Let go of that which no longer serves you and know that what 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,400 once served you might not serve you right now and might not 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,600 serve your highest self. I carry things and I use. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,720 I used to carry things so much. I was that junior monk man. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,440 I wasn't the senior monk, bro. I didn't set the woman down at 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,760 the river. And one of my bad habits in the 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,560 past was holding on to things too long. 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,080 And it's something that I'm working on. 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,040 And with everything that I'm able to let go of, I'm more 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,800 free, I'm more happy, got more peaceful. 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,160 So what I would say to myself is if it's past, if it's in the 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,800 past, just let it go. If you can make it right, make 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,120 it right. If you can't or if there's no 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,160 need to, let it go. Where attention goes, energy 15 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:43,080 flows and reality grows. So focus your energy on what you 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,720 want to grow, not on what you don't. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,440 That's that's what I'd say. 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Welcome to the King Dems 50 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:12,360 podcast, where we share the stories of extraordinary people 51 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,560 and dissect hot, relevant topics that shape our world. 52 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:18,600 From visionary leaders to trailblazing creatives, we 53 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,960 uncover the mindset, strategy, and grit behind greatness. 54 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Whether it's business, culture, or personal growth, we ask the 55 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,920 real questions. This isn't just conversation, 56 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:31,480 it's transformation. The Kingdom's podcast, Your Next 57 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,080 Breakthrough, starts here. Music. 58 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:40,400 Licensing Reimagined. We are live, ladies and 59 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,640 gentlemen, once again welcome to the Kingdom's podcast and Diary 60 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:46,320 of the CFO and today I've. Got. 61 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:53,440 With me a VVVIP fighting out. Of Beijing, China, by way of 62 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,920 California, United States of America. 63 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Beck Walker, you are, you fag. Let's go, brother. 64 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:10,360 Adam Ola, thank you bro. I I love the the very 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,600 passionate. Welcome bro. 66 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,880 It's a pleasure to be here bro. Bro, I guess you you'd be like 67 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,840 oh man, man man, I'm a fighter now let's. 68 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,960 Do this. Let's do this. 69 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,080 Let's do this. Whoa, you know, I, I love the 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,240 UFC a lot. And what a lot of people don't 71 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,480 know about me is, you know, a lot of people think, oh, he's a 72 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,240 finance guy, He's a finance bro, Marty. 73 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Martial artists as well. So growing up, growing up in 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Lagos, Nigeria, I was a skinny kid. 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,240 A lot of people used to think, oh, we can believe this one and 76 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,720 that. That forced me to get into 77 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,560 martial arts. So I got into Taekwondo. 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,360 From Taekwondo I moved to karate and karate, did a bit of judo 79 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,960 and ended up with mixed martial arts, mixed martial artists, 80 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,120 just everything. That's the best thing in a 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,280 street fight, you know, you have your striking, your wrestling 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,960 and the grappling, so. That is why I'm very, very. 83 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:15,280 Very big on the UFC and the UFC has produced a lot of champion 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,600 and you are also a champion brother and that's why I have 85 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,280 you here. So sit back and let me give you 86 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,480 your flowers. So our champions today we are 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,880 joined by a man who embodies global legacy leadership at a 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,640 level uranium, a communicator, A poet, a teacher, a community 89 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,240 builder, a linguist, A storyteller, and a connector of 90 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,280 millionaire and billionaire mentors to the next generation 91 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:46,520 of change makers. Yuan Yufeng is the founder of 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Billions of Hooters and the head of community at the School of 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Mentors, the world's number one entrepreneurship community. 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,960 He has lived and worked across China, Indonesia, the United 95 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,040 States, and beyond. He has taught to, LED, written, 96 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,560 performed, coached, and created systems to elevate thousands of 97 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,200 entrepreneurs. This episode is a journey 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,120 through self mastery, identity, communications, leadership, and 99 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,320 global citizenship. Joran is the man who sits at the 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,520 intersection of wisdom and execution. 101 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Today pull the curtain back on the mindset, skill set and the 102 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,640 tool set that shaped him. Joran, we honor your presence on 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,440 the Kingdom's parkas and Diary of the CFO. 104 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:34,600 You are welcome, Rasha. Wow, sure, thank you. 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Introduction is is a mouthful because you know your your 106 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,920 journey is a globe fool. Yeah, I appreciate you 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,840 dedicating the the oxygen to the intro bro. 108 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:51,520 Thank you. Whoa, brother, where? 109 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,600 Where do we start from? You know, like you love to see 110 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,840 you were made in China but raised in America. 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,240 You're just like Apple Brother. You're designed in in America, 112 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,760 but but made in China. Talk, talk, Talk to us about it, 113 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,440 brother. Yeah, so as as Adam Ola said, 114 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,320 and as I often say, I was indeed made in China, but the quality 115 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,720 is good. I was born 1995 I think I'm 116 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,160 dating myself a bit, but I was born 1995 in Wuhan in the Hubei 117 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,480 province of China and. Wuhan. 118 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,640 In Wuhan, dude. Wuhan. 119 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,720 Hey bro. The notorious Wuhan. 120 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,160 Before 2020 nobody knew Wuhan. After 2020 everybody knows Wuhan 121 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,800 dude. So it is what it is. 122 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,080 It is what it is. I'm not going to say anything. 123 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,320 I don't want, I don't want to get cancelled. 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,840 I love China. I love China. 125 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:02,600 That's. Funny, dude. 126 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:07,240 So yeah, I was. I was made in China, in Wuhan, 127 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,680 and I grew up in Wuhan a little bit in Changsha, another town in 128 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,520 China, and then in a small provincial city called Songzhu 129 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,000 in the Hubei province. And then I moved to the States 130 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,200 at age 6. Yeah. 131 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,920 And at the time, it was a huge change, man. 132 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,160 I changed my language. I changed my name, my identity. 133 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,200 I wasn't able to stay in touch with some of my loved ones who 134 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,080 had raised me from birth till age 6. 135 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,640 So it was just a time of enormous, enormous change, and 136 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,240 it had a massive impact on me moving forward in my life. 137 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,320 So yeah, that's that's the origin. 138 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Wow. So you live in China, Indonesia, 139 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,120 the US and of course you operate across several languages. 140 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,480 So when you look back at your early life and global 141 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,000 upbringing, what woman planted that seed for self mastery and, 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,800 you know, positive global change? 143 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,480 It's interesting, I think growing up switching languages 144 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,280 at age 6 is very difficult. You, you pick it. 145 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,680 I, I picked it up pretty quickly, but I always felt like 146 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,440 I wasn't able to express myself. You know, I had all these 147 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,760 feelings and all these emotions. And when the, the language level 148 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,120 is not sufficient to express myself, like there's 149 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,720 frustration, there's anger. And also I looked around and I 150 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,600 saw like, hey, throughout history, all the greatest 151 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,600 leaders have all been amazing communicators. 152 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,000 So I really just focused in on that, honed in on that. 153 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,880 And I'm not sure I, I think everybody's born into the world 154 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,520 with their own unique karma. I'm very grateful to have been 155 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,760 born with a more altruistic direction. 156 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,920 I like helping people. I like positivity. 157 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,400 I want to see a better world for everybody. 158 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,720 And that's, that's always been a part of who I am, but I've 159 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,480 definitely leaned into that more and more throughout the years. 160 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,720 So I wouldn't say that it was, it was one exact moment, but 161 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:25,200 it's definitely been a very intentional honing and elevation 162 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:32,360 of what I'm naturally born with. Natural born leader and it's 163 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,120 interesting switching languages at the age of 6. 164 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,720 So I, I can't remember where I read this, but I read that kids 165 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:46,960 are, would I say children find it easy to learn multiple 166 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,280 different languages, especially before the age of five, but six, 167 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:54,840 OK, Yeah, you're still, you're still pretty much there, right? 168 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,920 And I look at myself, for example, I grew up in Nigeria 169 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,080 and in Nigeria, we have multiple different ethnic groups, 170 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,600 multiple languages. Nigeria is a country of over 220 171 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,960 million people and people don't realize that there are over 250 172 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:18,720 ethnic languages in Nigeria. And my father is from one ethnic 173 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,320 group, my mom is from another ethnic group. 174 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,520 And that's why I have AI, you know, have a good, have a good 175 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,200 hybrid. So people who understand the 176 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,120 demography of Nigeria and the geography of Nigeria would 177 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,320 understand that my first name is Adimala. 178 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Adimala is a Yoruba name and my middle name is Isima, which is 179 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,560 and Edo name is an Nishan name, right? 180 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,560 So growing up, I had to learn Yoruba. 181 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,280 I had to learn my mom's language, Nishan. 182 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,080 I think that was the first local language I learned. 183 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,800 And in Nigeria we also have a Creole called Pigeon English, 184 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,360 right? So it's it's like English 185 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:01,920 scattered. Yeah. 186 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,480 I don't know how to explain it, but like you, you would feel 187 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,800 like this person speak English but it's not English. 188 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,960 If you don't understand the semantics, the syntax, the 189 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,280 language structure, you'd be you can't literally get sold by 190 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,400 people speaking something that sounds like English and also you 191 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,920 not even learn the proper English. 192 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,520 So I had to get master of like 4 languages. 193 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,800 So I understand like understanding four different 194 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,840 languages, code switching. You know, sometimes you're 195 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,360 speaking to somebody who is speaking one language and you 196 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,280 need to switch to another part of your brain. 197 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:47,160 Like, OK, we're not, we're not doing the English right now. 198 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,320 We're doing maybe Yoruba, we're doing another language. 199 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,760 And you need to flow and express yourself, right? 200 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,800 So, but then there's always that primary language. 201 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,120 And I tell people, your primary language is that language that 202 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,440 you think in. So what language do you think 203 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,440 here? Do you think in Chinese? 204 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,800 Do you think in English? It's, it's interesting because 205 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:19,440 I've till six I thought in Chinese and then from from 6 to 206 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:28,040 like 29 1/2 I thought in English and now I'm very intentionally 207 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:34,200 thinking in Chinese. So what? 208 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,880 What language do you pray in? What language do what? 209 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Do you pray in? What language do I pray in both? 210 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,080 But recently it's been more and more Chinese and let let me just 211 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,360 dive into why, because I mean, that's that's the big question, 212 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,960 right? Like why, Adam? 213 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,160 I'll, I'll share an incredible experience I had. 214 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Dude, I I was working for a start up. 215 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,040 It was called Atlas back. It was a posture correction 216 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,200 device and I was looking for investors for the company. 217 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:10,400 I walked into a water shop, an alkaline water shop in Thousand 218 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,440 Oaks, CA and I met this local physical therapist. 219 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,840 His name is Dan Kinney, you can look him up. 220 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Dan Kinney physical therapy. And Dan used to work with 221 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:24,520 Olympian athletes, bro, and he focus on posture and posture 222 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,880 correction. And me and Dan, we hit it off in 223 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,360 this water shop and was collaborating with the owner and 224 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,920 doing giving like free posture correction sessions as lead Gen. 225 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,360 I think. And he gave me a free posture 226 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,000 correction session, bro. And when I stood up from his 227 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,040 table, I felt this whoosh, this like primal rush of energy just 228 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,920 shoot up my spine. And accompanied with that, there 229 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,000 was a voice in my head that started saying my Chinese name, 230 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,960 Yuan Yu, your phone, which I hadn't used since I moved from 231 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,040 China to the US. So bro, I'm hearing in my head, 232 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,200 your new phone, your new phone, your new phone, my Chinese name 233 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,920 chanting itself over and over again. 234 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,760 And I'm feeling strong, bro. I'm feeling like the strongest 235 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,120 I've ever felt in my body. And I'm like, what is this all 236 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,560 about? You know, like, why does fixing 237 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:17,720 my posture, why did it activate this energy? 238 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,760 Why am I hearing my Chinese name? 239 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,000 And I decided to go on a journey to relearn Chinese. 240 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,040 After that point, I'm like, there's something here. 241 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,600 I need to relearn Chinese, and what I realized is that there 242 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:38,600 was a lot of my power that I am now able to access because I've 243 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,480 relearned Chinese, because Chinese was my mother tongue. 244 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,840 A lot of people have the mother tongue and they learn extra 245 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,280 languages on top of that mother tongue, but they still have the 246 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,720 foundation of the mother tongue. For me, my foundation, I had no 247 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,080 way to access it when I moved to the States, so a lot of energy 248 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,280 and a lot of different patterns were still running. 249 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,440 Bro, there was a point in my life where I'd rewired my mind 250 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,720 completely in English, but I still wasn't getting the results 251 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,800 that I wanted. And I was like, why? 252 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,240 And when I started rewiring my mind in Chinese, rewiring some 253 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,120 of those thinking patterns, dude, my life changed for the 254 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,720 better very quickly. And like it is only getting 255 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,840 better the more I think in Chinese and work through some of 256 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,560 those old patterns that I wasn't even able to access until I 257 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,840 relearned Chinese. You know, you might be of the 258 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,040 conversation I was having with a doctor friend of mine, I said a 259 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,880 lot of people suffer from identity crisis. 260 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,840 How can you understand the environment around you if you 261 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,680 don't even understand yourself? How can you know what to do if 262 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,160 you don't know who you are? How can you know who you are if 263 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,800 you don't even know where you're coming from? 264 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,440 History. Is a template for people to 265 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,120 operate in the present and the future. 266 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,960 And that's why it's really, really important for people to 267 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:15,320 know their history and for people to have a deep and rich 268 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:21,520 understanding of their culture. And a very big part of culture 269 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,440 is language. You know, language, food, you 270 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,960 know, various practices, religion, politics. 271 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:36,120 But language, I think language, food, music are very, very 272 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:43,960 fundamental in the framework, in the fabric of culture and 273 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,080 identity. And I love the fact that you're 274 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,000 very proud of your boots, you're very proud of your identity. 275 00:16:53,280 --> 00:17:01,160 So that journey is a very sacred journey, but a lot of people do 276 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:06,160 not take it very seriously. And during the introduction, I 277 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,119 touched on the pack that you were actually for it, right? 278 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,960 So your journey crosses poetry, communication studies, acting, 279 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,640 community leadership, and entrepreneurship. 280 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,240 So when did you start to realize that you were actually meant to 281 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:25,520 build people and not just projects? 282 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,960 And of course, beating people starts with beating yourself. 283 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:38,440 I think the, the more I went into my Buddhist practice, the 284 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,840 more the shift went from projects and accomplishments to 285 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:49,400 people because what, what are the achievements for? 286 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,960 What are the accomplishments for? 287 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,480 They're to get the love and respect and attention of other 288 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,960 people. A lot of us operate in that way. 289 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,160 And I will say that I operated in that way. 290 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,560 And when I loved myself and I realized, hey, I can be the 291 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,320 source of everything that I need. 292 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,960 And when I felt better and better and better and was able 293 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:15,160 to heal myself and find peace within, I realized one that I'm 294 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,320 suffering. I was suffering and a lot of 295 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,920 other people are suffering. So by going through my own 296 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,040 suffering and transforming it and realizing that a lot of 297 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,440 other people are also suffering, it's like, hey, no, it's, it's 298 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,640 all about people. And at the end of the day, man, 299 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,280 like the things that bring us the most joy, at least I can 300 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,440 speak for myself, are my relationships with other people. 301 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,200 It's how have I impacted this person's life? 302 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,480 It's not, it's not like, hey, like what did I accomplish in 303 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,640 this business? It's like, no, like how many 304 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,760 lives did I touch and to what level did I touch it? 305 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,960 How, how much was I able to help this person grow? 306 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,360 I think that's really what brings true fulfillment for me 307 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,360 personally. And it's a huge aspect of 308 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:01,840 fulfillment for, for humanity, just being able to help other 309 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,560 people and add value to other people's lives. 310 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,680 I think that's where the joy, the true joy of life lives. 311 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Yeah. You know, for people who really 312 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,440 follow this podcast, they would have heard me say this most of 313 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,080 the times. I'd rather impact a billion 314 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,840 lives than make a billion dollars. 315 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,240 That's powerful. That's powerful. 316 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,920 And you know what? If you impact a billion lives, 317 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,200 you will definitely make a billion dollars. 318 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,000 I think absolutely. As long as you get your 319 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000 monetization for for now correctly. 320 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Yeah. Hey, you know, there, there for 321 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,080 me, the framework is balancing being a Buddha and a businessman 322 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,560 and we need to have both, you know, that's the balance right 323 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,600 there. And it's, it's OK to be a Buddha 324 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,920 and a business person at the same time. 325 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,880 You know, it's OK to be rewarded and paid for the good work that 326 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,760 we do. That's 100% OK and should be 327 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:10,440 embraced actually. You know, one thing that really 328 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:17,160 drew me to you from the School of Mentors was what I say the 329 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:24,680 impact of your Buddha stories. For me, I'm a Christian, but I 330 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,800 respect other religions and I strongly believe that all roads 331 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,560 lead to the top of the same mountain. 332 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,360 And people have created too many divisions, you know, especially 333 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:37,080 in religion and politics. They're very, very sensitive, 334 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:43,840 you know, areas. But I have learned to respect, 335 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,560 you know, every other religion. And yeah, coming from Nigeria, 336 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,600 you know, people practice different religions. 337 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,880 I think by default if you are a learner, educated and light in 338 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,240 Nigeria, you would one of the very first, you know, lessons 339 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,320 you are taught in your early life is religious tolerance. 340 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,760 So for me, I went above the tolerance to appreciation, 341 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:15,400 right, Go study what other people are about because if you 342 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,240 don't understand something, you cannot appreciate it. 343 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,280 If you don't understand something then you stand under 344 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:29,680 it. So you have like this really 345 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,640 really. Life. 346 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:39,160 Changing life, impacting stories, you know, from the 347 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,400 Buddha, right? And I'd like for you to share 348 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,200 some of these, you know, stories, especially from a 349 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,680 mindset skill set, tool set perspective. 350 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,480 But that is what we stand for here, the stand for growth 351 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,440 mindset and the belief that in order for you to collaborate 352 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,760 with anybody, the very first thing you need to evaluate is 353 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,080 their mindset, right? But if you are very big on self 354 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:12,080 mastery, and there are a lot of these, did I say anecdotes, 355 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:18,400 these stories that connect with the concept of self mastery and 356 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,880 self identity. So I'll leave the floor to you 357 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,560 to, to to educate us because, you know, the two goals of this 358 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,320 broadcast are to educate and to motivate. 359 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,560 But you know, let's deal with the education aspect right now. 360 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,160 Sounds good bro. I, I appreciate the, the 361 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:42,240 invitation and the respect and know that it is offered Likewise 362 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:48,360 for me, I respect all religions. I respect all faiths and belief 363 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:52,240 systems, and I know that like, these are the foundations upon 364 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,040 which people build their lives, you know, So I have massive 365 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,440 respect for it. And for me, anything that helps 366 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,400 humanity, that helps humans live healthier, happier, more 367 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,000 empowered lives, I'm for that. That's what I'm for. 368 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,280 I'm against anything that divides us, that weakens us and 369 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520 do. That's a very easy way to tell 370 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,440 what to consume and what not to consume. 371 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,120 Is this piece of information creating more division? 372 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,120 Is it creating more conflict? Is it sowing more discord? 373 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,960 Is it saying negative things that are not empowering? 374 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,360 Then I just don't listen to it. I don't give it even a cent of 375 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:34,880 my time, bro. Zero of my time, zero of my 376 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,880 attention. The best way to kill something 377 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,360 is to just not pay it any attention. 378 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,760 And with negativity, that's what we got. 379 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,200 That's what we got to do. Now for the other side, Anything 380 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,280 that unifies anything that empowers, anything that makes 381 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,040 humans happier, healthier, stronger, gives us hope. 382 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240 That's what I'm for. So yeah, that's just a quick 383 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,680 thing on the consumption of information. 384 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,000 Good paradigm to work through that. 385 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,600 But back to the Buddhist stories, man, one of my 386 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,120 favourites. And the more I study Buddhism 387 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,920 out of MOLA, the more I'm feeling that the Buddhist path 388 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,960 is the path of learning to let go. 389 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:22,480 And the Buddhist believe that attachment is the root cause of 390 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,040 all suffering. And it's usually an attachment 391 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,800 to an idea of who we think we are or who we think we have to 392 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,160 be in order to survive. There's there's so many subtle 393 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:41,160 attachments in my experience that I had attached to that once 394 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,360 I let go, dude, so much of my suffering, I'm able to let it go 395 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,280 as well. So let me, let me tell you this, 396 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,480 this story about letting go. So this is the story of the two 397 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,920 monks with the woman at the river. 398 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,840 Now, Buddhist monks, they're not supposed to, to have physical 399 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:05,120 contact with, with ladies. And there was one day there's a 400 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,920 a senior monk and a junior monk. They're walking through the 401 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,000 forest and they come to this river. 402 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,920 It's a very fast flowing river, kind of scary. 403 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,640 And there's a, there's a beautiful lady there and she 404 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,720 doesn't know how to cross. And she asks the two monks, hey, 405 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,760 can you guys help me across this river, please? 406 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,120 And without thinking about it, the senior monk just goes over. 407 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,160 It's like, yeah, sure, hop on, I'll carry you over. 408 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,640 And he picks her up, carries her over the river, sets her down 409 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,680 and moves on. Now, at this time, the junior 410 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,760 monk is like, dude, what are you doing? 411 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,200 You're the senior monk. Like, you're not supposed to 412 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,480 have physical contact with women. 413 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,240 Like, what are you doing, bro? And he crosses the river after 414 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,040 them, but he doesn't say anything at that moment. 415 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,920 They keep walking. The senior monk and junior monk 416 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,720 continue on their journey. They're walking. 417 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,040 And the junior monk, he can't stop thinking about it. 418 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,400 He's like, dude, like, why did this guy touch this lady? 419 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Like we're really not supposed to do that. 420 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,000 And after like a couple a couple miles, he just couldn't help 421 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,880 himself. So he asked the senior mom. 422 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,080 He's like, dude, like you're the senior monk. 423 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,600 Like, why did you why did you have physical contact with that 424 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,640 Lady? And the senior monk says, hey, 425 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,200 brother, like, look, I picked her up. 426 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,920 I brought her across the river and I set her down. 427 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,680 Why are you still carrying her? Why are you? 428 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:39,280 Still carrying her. And the lesson there, bro, is 429 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,200 like, there's so many things that we attached to that we're 430 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,800 carrying inside of our hearts, carrying inside of our minds. 431 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,240 And for the senior monk, he wasn't attached to the rules per 432 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,920 SE. He was more concerned with the 433 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,680 human, with helping the human in the moment. 434 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,520 And a lot of Buddhists like that, that's the true way to 435 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,760 practice. Put the human first, you know, 436 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,280 like if it breaks the rules, but it benefits the human, do that 437 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,160 action. And then this junior monk, he 438 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,080 was holding on to convention. He was holding on to the rules 439 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,840 and he was carrying the lady inside of his head and inside of 440 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,360 his heart. And there's so many things that 441 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:25,080 humans carry for so long that drag us down, hold us down in 442 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,400 lower energetic states that if we could just learn to let go 443 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,920 like the senior monk, that we would feel so much lighter 444 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,080 immediately, bro. So that's the story of the two 445 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,680 monks with the woman at the river. 446 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,440 Wow, you know, you've actually shared the story on this kind of 447 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,920 mentors and really he did touch me. 448 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,840 And right now it's sinking in Defran again. 449 00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:01,360 Like it's a story that when you hear it or you tell it, it does 450 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:09,360 heat with a new energy every time, letting go. 451 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,880 Very, very important. You know, I've said this before, 452 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:18,080 that people are too attached to constructs, to concepts, to 453 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:21,320 ideas, to philosophies. You're not your idea, you're not 454 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:27,120 your philosophy. And you know, for a very long 455 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,160 time people believe in things that are wrong, right? 456 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,560 And would kill or fight to defend that wrong position, 457 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,480 right? And a lot of people don't 458 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,280 realize that rules are made for man, not man made for rules. 459 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Wow, that's a great perspective. I like that a lot of people are. 460 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,560 Attached to convention, but you need to think about the greater 461 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,160 good. I love that story very much. 462 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,960 The woman was in need and you know, he did what he had to do 463 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,840 and let her go. And you know, just from that 464 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:20,000 moment where he drops her off, he's off his mind and he's 465 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,800 continued on his journey for he's impacted her own journey 466 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,360 positively. Yep, and. 467 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,000 This speaks to even every other really journey in Christianity 468 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,120 and Islam. There are people who judge other 469 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,960 people. You know, we sometimes we call 470 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,160 them holier than thou. You know, individuals like, OK, 471 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240 you want to be holy, no problem. You be holy. 472 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,240 Leave me, Just leave me alone. Let let me do my own thing. 473 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,800 Right? But why do people want to feel 474 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,640 like they're better than the next person? 475 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,040 Why do they want to feel like they're better than the next 476 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,320 person? They want to feel that way 477 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,320 because they're insecure about who they are. 478 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:11,360 And like, it's, it's just a, a lack of self love at the end of 479 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,080 the day. I think. 480 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,360 I mean, at any time, any there's any reaching that is external, 481 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,480 it's, it's a lack of self love, I think. 482 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,520 And you know, because if, if you truly love yourself, then you'll 483 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,640 be confident within yourself. And it also comes with 484 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,360 experience because it's only after going through certain 485 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,840 stages in life do we understand the experiences of others. 486 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,360 If we don't have those experiences and those 487 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,440 challenges, we truly cannot understand them. 488 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,520 There's no way to imagine your way. 489 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,640 You can't imagine, you can't envision. 490 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,120 But there's certain things that you have to experience to truly 491 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,160 understand it. And the correct way to practice 492 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,200 on the path, I believe, is to transform it with compassion. 493 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,880 And I think compassion is always the answer. 494 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,200 Dude, Zen Master tick not on. He said compassion is 495 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,320 invincible. It is the only thing that is 496 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,520 worthy of us. And hatred will not let you face 497 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,600 the beast in man. But compassion can. 498 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760 And compassion can help you transform that. 499 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560 So that's my perspective on it. Wow. 500 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,800 Compassion, they're very important. 501 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,240 If you've ever seen my, my core values or heard about my core 502 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,240 values, my core values to just three of them, kindness, 503 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,360 respect, hospitality. You know, compassion is a very, 504 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,840 very big part of kindness. I like to tell people I'm a kind 505 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,640 guy, but not a nice guy. You know, I, I generally care 506 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,400 about people's welfare, but I feel like niceness is about 507 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,760 seeking people's validation or trying to act like you're kind 508 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,200 so that people would say, oh, that's, you know, that person is 509 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,160 good. So from that Buddha story, we 510 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,720 can see the senior monk is actually a kind guy. 511 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,160 He genuinely cares about the human. 512 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,520 Yes, and. That is what kind people do. 513 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,920 They don't care about the frameworks, they don't care 514 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,320 about the rules, they care about the welfare of the people, 515 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Right. And you talk a lot about self 516 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,280 mastery. And, you know, self mastery is, 517 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800 you know, a theme of the mind. It's intrinsic. 518 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,760 It's about your internal engineering. 519 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:57,280 And in this age and time, people seek validation too much. 520 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,600 And, you know, I tell people I don't really care about what 521 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,520 people say about me or what people try to lead on me. 522 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,560 If you said I'm stupid, I'm crazy, whatever, that's that's, 523 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,840 that's on you. Thank you very much. 524 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,120 Because I use this analogy when you take $100 note, right? 525 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,600 Take the $100 note, you squeeze it, you, you know, grumble it, 526 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,200 you put it in the mud, you step on it and say, oh, you're not 527 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,560 $100, you're $50. OK, no problem. 528 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,400 Straighten it out and take that mint one, the fresh one and take 529 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:38,720 it to a shop. The, the, the rugged rackety 1, 530 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,280 you know, and that mint fresh one are going to buy the same 531 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,880 exact things. So I tell people my value is not 532 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,520 determined by whatever you call it, is determined by what God 533 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,720 has, you know, quoted. So it's more like the central 534 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,960 bank actually printed this thing and you know, you credit our 535 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,640 hundred, right? So whatever it is you want to 536 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,920 try to call it, it doesn't change it. 537 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,280 So our value is intrinsic, is determined by God. 538 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,120 Until people get to realize the fact that your value is actually 539 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,120 predetermined, right, and cannot be changed by people's 540 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:23,639 validation or people's expressions, they might not take 541 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:28,080 themselves very seriously. Yeah, no. 542 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,679 That's a beautiful perspective and I think it's true. 543 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,080 I mean, we, I think all humans have inherent value. 544 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,560 And I will say too that that humans are also capable of 545 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,679 elevating their own value, that that's, that's a beautiful 546 00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,600 thing. We're all born with inherent 547 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:51,280 value, but we can also learn to increase our value by learning 548 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,320 to increase the level at which we can help other people and, 549 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,280 and service other people and provide solutions to their 550 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,320 problems. It's interesting, 'cause 551 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,800 there's, there's like, there's worth and there's value, right? 552 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,440 Like inherently, like we all have worth just as human beings, 553 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,880 but value is, I'm starting to think of value in terms of like 554 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,400 what I can do for other people, the, the pain that I can 555 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,240 alleviate, the problems that I can solve. 556 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,720 I'm curious about your, your perspective on that, Adam Ola, 557 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:31,040 because we all have value as human beings, just base basic 558 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,560 human respect, you know, and, but what, what's your take on 559 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,360 that? The, the dichotomy of worth and 560 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,480 value or, or is there a separation for you? 561 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,560 So. I'd say in terms of value, I'll 562 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,960 link it back to that analogy that I give, right? 563 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,920 What's the value of $100? Note, you can buy certain 564 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,960 things, right? And that value is intrinsic. 565 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,760 It's not determined by, you know, the aesthetic. 566 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,360 So it's it's, you know, you know what? 567 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160 It is, bro. It's determined by our belief in 568 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,800 it. That's what it's determined by. 569 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,320 Because if nobody believes, you believe. 570 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,400 In the you believe in that $100 note, right? 571 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,480 That is why you're going to collect it and give some of the 572 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,800 value. Yes, I, I want to bring it back 573 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,680 to, to the, to belief. Now, bro, let's, let's talk 574 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,320 about belief for a bit. Because what is it that 575 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,320 literally gives that $100 bill the power that it has? 576 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,560 It's the investment of our belief in it. 577 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,600 It's our acceptance of it, but without, without our belief in 578 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,880 it. Like if an alien just came to 579 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,400 Earth and they didn't know anything about the $100 bill and 580 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,800 they didn't believe in it and like it's just me and the alien, 581 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,560 just us 2 left in the world. And it's like they don't know 582 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,320 what it is, they don't believe in it, then it has no value 583 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,920 because they haven't invested their belief in it. 584 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,000 And it's the same with people, bro. 585 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,000 I think we're valuable to the level that we believe we are 586 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,040 valuable. So I think it's belief at the 587 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,240 end of the day. I've got a quote. 588 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:20,080 Belief is the catalyst that transforms thoughts into 589 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,360 reality. Belief is the catalyst that 590 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,680 transforms thoughts into reality. 591 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,600 And you know, think about it from this perspective, talk 592 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,280 about belief. The reason why somebody's going 593 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,440 to accept $100 note is because they believe in that note. 594 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,480 I come from Nigeria. We don't spend dollars, we spend 595 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,760 naira. If you go to some rural areas 596 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,080 and you give a local businesswoman give $100 notes, 597 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,280 she's never seen $100 in her life, she will not accept it 598 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,800 from you. She wants a local currency. 599 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,320 Man, this, this is so interesting because now it 600 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,040 brings up like, hey, if you have something beautiful to share but 601 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,720 people aren't familiar with it, then you have to introduce it to 602 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:17,280 them in a way that feels familiar in order for them to 603 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,920 accept it. So like, let's say you have some 604 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,200 beautiful Christian messages to share with people, but these are 605 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,000 people that have never heard about Christianity or anything 606 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,800 like that. I guess a good way to 607 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,840 communicate those values would be through adopting them in a 608 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,600 format or through subjects that these people are familiar with. 609 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,480 So yeah, it's my, my mind is kind of racing with ideas now. 610 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,440 So I appreciate you, man. You're, you're inspiring, dude. 611 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,520 Let's know. Modern. 612 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,560 Day business philosopher. For reason, brother, Let's go, 613 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,280 let's go. The Joe. 614 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,360 Letters my. Mom. 615 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,560 Oh. The Joe. 616 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,840 Rogan of Africa right here with you brother. 617 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,080 We're calling it Global Top 100. Barrister embarrassing in your 618 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,240 faces, from your mouth to God's ears. 619 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,560 It's going to happen. You know, I feel like I was, I 620 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,080 was put on this earth. I was born just to be a 621 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,640 podcaster, like everything that I've done in my life. 622 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,840 Is. Just pointing towards that 623 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,640 purpose. OK, I have been viewing this guy 624 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:31,040 to become, you know, a global podcaster, you know, a global 625 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,240 elite level, the best in the world. 626 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,920 In order to be the best, you have to be to the best. 627 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,360 And the best is blessed. You know, we are blessed, 628 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,720 brother. We're blessed. 629 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,800 It's quite interesting, you know, like, I love the fact that 630 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,240 I'm able to connect with the brightest minds of my time. 631 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,280 I grew up reading a lot of books in my father's library. 632 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,520 Books and philosophy, psychology, sociology, history, 633 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,440 geography, political science. And, you know, reading the 634 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,400 ancient, you know, Greek philosophers and you know, some 635 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,840 Oriental ones as well, lacks of Confucius. 636 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,000 I used to think, how wish I could have a conversation with 637 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,960 these guys and know what's happening in their head and 638 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,240 trade perspectives. And no matter how brilliant you 639 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,760 are or how much of A genius you are as a person, connecting with 640 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,640 another genius helps you to expand the horizon. 641 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,160 There's something I learned in physics, you know the angle of 642 00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,960 elevation and angle of depression. 643 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:52,520 So it's about your perspective. So your perspective is limited 644 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,720 to what you can see, right? And it's piece of the angle. 645 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:59,800 So if you, if you have a building, for example, you have 646 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,760 this and you're standing here, you're only limited to see what 647 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,000 is here. You don't know what's at the 648 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:13,400 back. But if you're standing here, you 649 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,280 can see what is down, right? If you're standing here, you can 650 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,120 see what is here and you know what is here. 651 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,280 So having conversations with people, right? 652 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,760 So I'm here and you're here, for example, so I can tell you about 653 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,040 what is here. You can tell me about what's 654 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,480 here and we both become better individuals. 655 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,240 I love it. Bro And like, do you think that 656 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:44,040 that's what happens like let's say when we, when we pass away, 657 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,160 right? Like the Buddhist believe that 658 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:50,440 we're just a drop of water returning to the ocean. 659 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:59,600 So what if like when I pass, I'm able to go back with that 660 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,120 information and say, hey, here's what I've learned about life. 661 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,720 Here's all of these different angles, take it and run. 662 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,640 You know, I'm, it's just so cool. 663 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,160 I'm thinking about the matrix now. 664 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,240 I'm thinking about some very interesting ideas like universal 665 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:18,960 consciousness. But no, I I love it, dude. 666 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,760 And I think when great minds get together, I'm not saying that 667 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,840 I'm a great mind, but you are a great you are. 668 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,240 You are a great mind, brother. You are a great mind. 669 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,000 There's no. There's no argument. 670 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,880 About. It, you know, you know, one 671 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,720 thing, one thing I've learned is, you know, yeah, it's 672 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:40,320 beautiful, humble, right. But it's also good to accept our 673 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,680 privileges. Yeah, we have certain privileges 674 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,160 based off our journeys in life, right. 675 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,880 So it's, it's not your fault that you're a great mind. 676 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,920 You just have to accept it. You don't have to be humble 677 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,800 about it, Right. Yeah. 678 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,160 You can be humble about it. Yeah. 679 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,200 But I, I think probably a way to be humble about it is, you know, 680 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,440 maybe framing it as I'm grateful, you know, to be one of 681 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,120 the great minds, you know, of my generation. 682 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,800 I think. Yeah. 683 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,880 What here here's something that I take pride in is 684 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,440 communication. And I think it's even better to 685 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,080 have a friend give you the compliment for you. 686 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,320 So that's why I deflected it because I knew how to help you 687 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,760 out with that bro. So I, I appreciate your assist 688 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,560 in that dude. Jeff Bezos said something really 689 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,560 interesting. He said we can't be proud of our 690 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,680 gifts, but we can be proud of our decisions and. 691 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,400 I'm. Proud of all the decisions that 692 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,320 I've made with the cards that I've been dealt, you know, with 693 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,280 the cards that I've been dealt. I'm very proud of how I'm 694 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,560 showing up. I'm very proud of how I'm 695 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,440 allocating my time, energy and attention in the world. 696 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,760 And I'm proud that I'm I've chosen to be a good person or do 697 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,720 my best to be a good person and make a positive impact in the 698 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,880 world. So another thing that you on 699 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,120 right there. You know. 700 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,400 You talk about Keith's right, the Bible. 701 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,040 Actually in the book of Proverbs chapter 18 verse 16, it says a 702 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,280 man's gift make up room for him and bring up him before great 703 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:24,200 man. A man's gift make up room for 704 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,080 him and bring up him before great man. 705 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,840 Think about it. It reminds me of what our 706 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,280 director of our higher ticket communities, Rob Fajardo says. 707 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,400 Rob has a great networking thing because a lot of people say it's 708 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,120 not what you know, it's who you know, right? 709 00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:47,920 A lot of people say that, but Rob's spin on that is actually 710 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,560 it's what you know that allows you to connect with The Who you 711 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,640 knows and allows you to provide the value to them. 712 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,000 So it's the what you know that allows you to get in the room 713 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,480 and stay in the room. So actually it's our gifts, as 714 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,960 the Bible says, and it's the what that allows us access to 715 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,240 The Who before we become The Who. 716 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:15,080 So yeah, you know, that's something. 717 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,040 That the Bible says that I really appreciate. 718 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,440 It says study to show thyself approved or workmen that need 719 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,240 not be ashamed. Study to show thyself, approved 720 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,760 a Workman that need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the 721 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,440 word of truth. What does that mean to you? 722 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,560 That is, we have that responsibility to study. 723 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:51,160 We have that responsibility to study for our self growth and 724 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,760 self development. And that is what's going to make 725 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,000 you not to be ashamed. I love it bro, because it's 726 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,480 rightly. Dividing the word of truth. 727 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,800 That's beautiful. Humans, we're blessed. 728 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,880 And humans also a lot of people forget. 729 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,360 Maybe, maybe it's just me that forgot, but we're also organic 730 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,280 beings. We're not just observers of 731 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,600 nature. We are manifestations of nature 732 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,240 as well. We're a part of nature and 733 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,920 anything in nature that is not growing is dying. 734 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,640 A tree is either growing or it's dying. 735 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:31,560 There's no there's no two ways about it. 736 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,520 If the tree is not growing, it is dying. 737 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,440 And it's the same with humans, bro. 738 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,360 So like every single day, it's good to study, it's good to 739 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,200 learn something new. It's good to get new things in 740 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,440 variety. It's good to grow every single 741 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,000 day because if we're not growing, we're dying. 742 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:54,200 And the Buddhists believe that the the reincarnation as a human 743 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:59,960 is a super, super blessed chance and opportunity to actually dive 744 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:04,080 into the waters of truth, you know, to learn about the nature 745 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,920 of reality, to transcend suffering. 746 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,840 And just the Buddhist really Revere this opportunity to be 747 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,320 human, to have human intelligence and to study every 748 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,120 single day, man. So I love that quote from the 749 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,480 Bible. Let's go. 750 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,040 A lot of respect, brother. You know. 751 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaking to the. Full concept of self mushroom, 752 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,280 right? And that internal engineering 753 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,880 that you very, very much appreciate. 754 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,040 So you talk about holistic success. 755 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,880 So what does self mastery mean to you in a world full of noise 756 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,800 and pressure? And how does somebody begin that 757 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:48,080 journey to self mastery? Damn bro. 758 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,880 That's a great question. I think self mastery, there's, 759 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,760 there's a lot of different elements to it. 1st, it's, it's 760 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:03,480 a willingness to take a look at where you are currently and 761 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:09,960 accept that honest with honesty. I think my, the biggest turning 762 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,720 point in my own self mastery journey was when I decided to be 763 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,960 100% honest. OK, honesty will get you super 764 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960 far. It'll get you like 80% of the 765 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,080 way there. And here's how it happened for 766 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,760 me in the past, I had a really bad habit of telling little lies 767 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,920 to people to get them to like me more. 768 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,880 I don't know why, bro. I'll just confess that it was 769 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,160 something that I did. And I went to UCLA and I joined 770 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520 a fraternity called Lambda Chi Alpha there. 771 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,080 And it was like my rush, my rush term. 772 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,640 And we were picking our Big Brothers inside the fraternity 773 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,800 to be our mentors, right? And I put these five guys as 774 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,040 54321. But I told number one and #2 775 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:53,800 that they were both my number one. 776 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,920 I still know their names, Bro Austin, Austin Kopp and Adam 777 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,480 Hakim. Those are my two guys. 778 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,120 They were my top two guys. And bro, throughout the process 779 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,160 of figuring out who is going to be my big bro, this lie came out 780 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,160 and it was exposed in front of the whole fraternity dude. 781 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,680 And I had to get. Bro it was. 782 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,640 Terrible. I felt so ashamed. 783 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:22,800 I felt embarrassed and it really 'cause we do these, I, I did 784 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,080 this instinctively just try trying to survive. 785 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,320 I think like everything that somebody does, it's a survival 786 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,480 mechanism that we feel we have to do but we don't have to do. 787 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,160 But Long story short, man, I had to give an apology in front of 788 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,120 the entire fraternity and I had to take a good look at myself, 789 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,840 man. And this is life gives us 790 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,920 opportunities to take a good look at ourselves and change. 791 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,440 And after that I decided, man, I need to be 100% honest and not 792 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,680 just to other people, but also with myself. 793 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,360 Like how am I feeling? What are my genuine thoughts 794 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,720 right now? And then creating space for 795 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,320 that. So I think honesty is an 796 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,320 incredible first step in self development and self mastery. 797 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,640 Honesty. Honesty and the search for truth 798 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,040 about ourselves, about the universe. 799 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,600 I think those are two very, very good things. 800 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,440 Honesty is the first step. Truth is the direction. 801 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,640 You know, in, in Nigeria we have we have a saying that's quite 802 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,480 popular. They say honesty is the best 803 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,840 policy. I agree with that. 804 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,720 I agree with that bro, because telling lies is like weaving a 805 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,760 spider web that you have to navigate yourself and it'll 806 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,840 eventually catch me inside of it if I, if I tell it, you know, 807 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,040 it's just, it's not, it's not worth it bro. 808 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:54,160 It's not worth it bro. My, my good friend Akon, he, 809 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,600 he's from Ghana, he says anything that cost me my Peace 810 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,600 of Mind is too expensive. Anything that's going to cost me 811 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,480 my Peace of Mind is too expensive. 812 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:09,240 And I agree 110%, man. So those are my thoughts on that 813 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,360 bro. It's interesting you're actually 814 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,240 aligning with a proverb from from Nigeria. 815 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:21,040 So I'll say it in Yoruba and Abu translate it so they say T 816 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:27,680 Yoruba lofo Guangdong putito yoshiburia meaning are if a lie 817 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:34,200 is told and it exists for 1000 years, the truth will still 818 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,440 eventually conquer it or be revealed. 819 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,400 I agree with that 110%. The truth will always come up 820 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,200 bro. Because the the experience of 821 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,360 life is truth. We're experiencing truth 822 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,200 everyday man. Like life itself is truth. 823 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,480 And if if I have a misperception or a misconception about how 824 00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,920 life is, life experiences will show me that I am wrong. 825 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,400 Like, like there's certain universal principles that are 826 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,440 just so true that even if I believe they're not true, my 827 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,400 life experiences will prove them true to me over time. 828 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,720 So I agree with that. Speaking of. 829 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:23,120 Universal truths, right? Yeah, I think about how in the 830 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,480 past people used to think the world was flat for overtime. 831 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,560 Scientific discoveries, proof that the world is spherical. 832 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,040 So there are some people who see believe in the Flat Earth 833 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:43,640 concept where you stand and you know, like how did that concept 834 00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:47,920 of changing from the universal Flat Earth concept to the 835 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,400 universal spherical concept, like how does that evolution 836 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,840 play for you? It's interesting. 837 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,280 Adam Ola I, I only speak about things that I feel I have some 838 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,680 level of expertise or skin in the game with. 839 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,000 I've never dove in very deep into that conversation. 840 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,040 Just off the bat, I'm I'm feeling that the earth is 841 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,520 spherical, that that's, that's my take on it. 842 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,440 But like for me, I'm, I'm only concerned with the things that 843 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,920 will improve human life. That's that's where I put all my 844 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,120 energy and attention. I love that. 845 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,240 That's just true. It's just true. 846 00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:30,880 It's just who I am. But with with things like that, 847 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,560 it's like I will support whatever gives you the most 848 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,960 Peace of Mind because I care about the human. 849 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,560 Like at the end of the day, we're all going to die. 850 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,960 And does it matter? Does it matter if it's spherical 851 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,080 or if it's flat? Or does it matter? 852 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,960 I'm telling you, does it really matter because some people will 853 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:59,000 fight you? To define the. 854 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,200 Concept of the Flat Earth and I'm like, OK, do you think it's 855 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,480 flat? It is very flat. 856 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,960 No problem, let's move on. Just. 857 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,120 There's some telefix that are just like suckers of energy that 858 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,960 don't need to be there. Like if you have time to talk 859 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,520 about Flat Earth or spherical earth, like do something about 860 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,320 the water problem like purify water on earth. 861 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560 OK go. Here's the order bro. 862 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,640 First, purify the air. Spend your time purifying air, 863 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,000 finding solutions to purify air because without good air we're 864 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,280 all dead instantly, like 3 minutes. 865 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,360 Second, find a good way to purify water. 866 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,120 If you have still have time after solving the air problem, 867 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,680 solve the water problem 'cause if we don't have water, we die 868 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,880 in like 5 to 7 days. Then solve the food problem 869 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,880 'cause if we don't have food, good clean, healthy food, we die 870 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,240 after like, I don't know, 3-4 weeks, you know? 871 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,800 So that's the order that flat versus spherical earthers should 872 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,200 take and allocate their energy. That's what I believe. 873 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,440 I love that. I love that, you know, water 874 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,360 food, In the words of Bruce Lee, be like water, my friend. 875 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,360 Be like water my friend. Dude. 876 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,400 Dude it's the basics man. People have to think like, what 877 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,680 is keeping us alive at this moment? 878 00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,480 It's air. That's the most important thing. 879 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,240 We need clean air. What's secondary water? 880 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,640 What do we die without the fastest, without water? 881 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,040 OK, after water, food. We need to make these three 882 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,480 things healthy and good for all of humanity. 883 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,080 And then education, because it's food of the mind. 884 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,560 With education, bro, we can change the entire world with a 885 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,360 single generation. We just need to get one single 886 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,000 generation right and humanity is good bro. 887 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,360 Very. Very important and that actually 888 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,720 reminds me of of philosophy that I have. 889 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,920 I said the the capacity of the human being is determined by 4 890 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:07,560 ease number one, education, number 2 enlightenment #3 891 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,640 experience and #4 exposure. I'll take that again. 4ES, the 892 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,000 capacity of a person of an individual is determined by 4 893 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,560 ES. Number one is education #3 is 894 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,120 enlightenment #3 it's exposure #4 is experience. 895 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,760 So in no particular order, right, those are four ES. 896 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,760 I'd like to take this question. Bro this is beautiful and I I 897 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:33,800 agree. I'll give you some. 898 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,640 Sauce there? Bro I'm I'm I'm going to go in. 899 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,440 Bro, I'm I'm going in dude. So all right, let me let me 900 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,400 organize this and let me go in on this. 901 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,040 So First off, exposure, one of our mentors that we had on his 902 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,800 name is Will Rivera. He is a became a millionaire at 903 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,240 23. He's a great quote. 904 00:56:56,240 --> 00:57:01,200 Ma'am, you can only grow to what you've been exposed to. 905 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,560 You can only grow to what you've been exposed to. 906 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,200 And dude, I I think that's super true. 907 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,680 So I think exposure and choosing to expose yourself to the things 908 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,000 that you want. Go and see the dream, go and 909 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,920 touch the dream, go and taste the dream. 910 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,400 Whatever your dream is, that environment is so important. 911 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,000 Put yourself in that. You might want to add 912 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,440 environment to those ease bro environment. 913 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,800 Yeah, that's good. Let's make it 5. 914 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,200 I like the concept of five. Let's go, let's go. 915 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,800 Bro So yeah, you can only grow to what you've been exposed to. 916 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,960 And that education is not just school, bro. 917 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,320 Like, I think I, I want people to not think of education as 918 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,280 just school and that's. Why we've been enlightenment. 919 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,680 Enlightenment is education on steroids. 920 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,520 I love it. I love it for me for me 921 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,960 enlightenment. I do go by more of the Buddhist 922 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:06,240 perspective, which is like. Let me think about how to 923 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,640 structure this. It's about seeing the nature of 924 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:16,640 reality as it is and experiencing that for ourselves, 925 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,720 because it's the experience of the nature of reality that 926 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,080 really frees us. OK, so there's a great example 927 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,400 of like a researcher and the Buddha. 928 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,160 OK, there's the researcher and the Buddha. 929 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,640 They're both researching and experiencing impermanence, 930 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,120 right? So the researcher will use his 931 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,160 micros or telescope, microglass, whatever it's called, 932 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,520 microscope, and he'll look at an atom and he'll see how it 933 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,320 fluctuates so much in every single second. 934 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,760 It's not the same. It's, it's impermanent. 935 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,920 The, the state that it's in, it's always changing. 936 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,520 But the researcher will not become enlightened just by 937 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,840 looking at impermanence. You know, the Buddha, the 938 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,160 purpose of the meditation part of it was actually to experience 939 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:11,240 the reality of impermanence using his own body as the tool. 940 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,200 Because when we meditate, we're able to experience, oh, here's 941 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,200 this sensation right here, 0 and now it's gone. 942 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,960 Here's the sensation right here, 0 and now it's gone. 943 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,280 Here's the thought that I'm experiencing 0 And now it's 944 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,440 gone. Thoughts are gone as soon as 945 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,080 they come, and every single phenomenon in the entire 946 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,880 universe is impermanent to varying degrees of impermanence. 947 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,320 Speeds that the speed that at which it changes. 948 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,440 So I think it's important to have the experience of 949 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,320 enlightenment, not just an intellectual understanding of 950 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,600 it. Because if we don't experience 951 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,920 it first hand, we won't truly know, I think. 952 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,800 And you know, in terms of education, a lot of people make 953 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,440 the mistake of what I say equating education to lead to 954 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,760 racy. But education is more than just 955 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,520 being literate. I'd like for you to speak to 956 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,760 that. And don't forget our five, our 957 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:20,280 five ES, enlightenment, education, exposure, experience 958 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,720 and environment. So. 959 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:28,240 You've spoken to, Let me see now, enlightenment. 960 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,320 So we're talking about education now? 961 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,320 Yeah. Yeah, I, I love that, bro. 962 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,680 Literacy gives you access to the flow of information. 963 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:44,040 That's what literacy does. Literacy is, is is a it's a very 964 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:50,040 beneficial thing to have, but it's not everything. 965 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:56,120 I think there's education in terms of learning, like what to 966 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,000 actually consume. That's a key part of education, 967 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,400 and that's an intuitive thing. It's like as we live our lives, 968 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,240 we know the things that are beneficial to us and harmful to 969 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,560 us by experiencing those things, right? 970 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:14,680 Like I had to drink this Coca-Cola and this beer to 971 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,160 understand that the next day I feel like crap and boom, the 972 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,480 output of drinking too much alcohol is feeling like crap. 973 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:29,200 So that's that's experience. And experience is a key part of 974 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,280 education. It's all interwoven, but 975 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:37,440 literacy gives us access to other people's experiences. 976 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,040 But it's that first hand experience that will convince 977 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,040 you one way or the other of whether or not to, to take this 978 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:52,720 thing or to not take this thing. The fastest way to succeed at 979 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,600 whatever your chosen pursuit is, is to put yourself in the 980 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,520 environment where that thing is the norm, where achieving that 981 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,080 is the norm. So for me right now, my goal is 982 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,560 to relearn Mandarin Chinese for the reasons that I've told you 983 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,000 and, and more. And what did I do? 984 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,880 I decided to come to Beijing. I'm here in the capital of 985 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,840 China. Immersion, bro, There's 986 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:20,640 immersion is the best way to learn in my opinion because it's 987 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,840 the you're getting the most possible reps in and quality. 988 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,960 Quantity breeds quality, quantity breeds quality. 989 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,280 Got to get the reps in and it's all about reps, bro. 990 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,920 I'm convinced that as long as anybody puts the requisite 991 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,480 amount of reps in, they're going to succeed at whatever their 992 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,720 chosen pursuit is. Absolutely. 10,000 Hour rule 993 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,160 Malcolm Gladwell. Yes, I. 994 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,520 I really appreciate what that guy said about 10,000 hour rules 995 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:59,880 and I think that's in his book. Outlier outliers, Yeah, they're 996 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,840 outliers, I think. That guy is reading a couple of 997 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:07,520 books that I really appreciate. Outliers, David and Goliath. 998 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:11,640 What? What about the book? 999 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,960 You know him, right? Malcolm? 1000 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,000 Yeah. I know I've heard of him. 1001 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:22,280 I think T pinpoint as well, like very, very great storyteller. 1002 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,000 I think he is one of the greatest storytellers of our 1003 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,000 generation. Like yeah, to to put some 1004 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,040 respect on his name. He he's one of the greatest and 1005 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:39,920 the way he analysis, you know, concepts and brings them to when 1006 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:45,200 I say association with reality, I think, yeah, I, I rated very, 1007 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,080 very highly. He should be. 1008 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,680 On the podcast. One of these days, let's get him 1009 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,240 on board. No, still, bro, I'm I'm speaking 1010 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,680 it for you, man. Malcolm Gladwell's coming on. 1011 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,840 He's coming on. Malcolm. 1012 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,800 Gladwell. This is an open invitation to 1013 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,080 you. We appreciate your body of work. 1014 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,120 And of course, we'd love to have you on the Kingdom's podcast. 1015 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,480 Yeah, we said he here first. Let's go and. 1016 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,160 Adam Ola, I wanted to compliment you too, man. 1017 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,840 I think if you've read The Tipping Point, which I haven't 1018 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,240 even read, I think you're an amazing maven and an amazing 1019 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,680 connector. So you're an amazing curator of 1020 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,080 knowledge and you're an amazing communicator of and, and 1021 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,520 connector too, bro. So giving you your flowers, Ben. 1022 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,600 Thank you very much, Larry, take the flowers. 1023 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,440 Thank you. I appreciate it. 1024 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,760 I appreciate it. Thank you very much. 1025 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,520 You know, like in this age and time, people are very, very, 1026 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,160 would I say stingy with compliments, you know, and 1027 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,960 appreciation. And I always say something, 1028 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,560 gratitude is good attitude. When a person shares their time 1029 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,720 with you, they share their life with you because the Sr. unit 1030 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:54,640 for measuring life is time. So when you appreciate it for 1031 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,160 something, it gives you more motivation. 1032 01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,160 You know, I don't see validation, but the truth is we 1033 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,880 are all human beings. When you appreciate it, it gives 1034 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,280 you more energy, more motivation. 1035 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,040 And I always say, do not go to where you're tolerated, go to 1036 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,640 where you're appreciated. I love it, bro. 1037 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,040 I love it, bro. I I love it, dude. 1038 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,200 Yeah. Don't go. 1039 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,760 Don't go where you're tolerated. Go where you're appreciated and 1040 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,840 celebrated. Absolutely. 1041 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,440 And of course, you know what a great way to segue into the next 1042 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,880 segment. I want to talk about 1043 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,800 communication superpower, you know, the linguistic freedom. 1044 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,680 So you wrote the Diamond Quarter Sutra. 1045 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,840 That is freedom through linguistic mastery. 1046 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,240 So how does language shape destiny, and how can the average 1047 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,280 person use communication to elevate their lives? 1048 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,720 What do you think is the most important conversation that we 1049 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:55,120 have every day? The most important conversation 1050 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,920 we have every day. That has to be a conversation 1051 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,480 with yourself. Absolutely, bro, absolutely. 1052 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,760 Lao Tzu. He has a great quote. 1053 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,720 Watch your thoughts, They become your speech. 1054 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,080 Watch your speech, they become your actions. 1055 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,320 Watch your actions, they become your habits. 1056 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,760 Watch your habits, they become your character. 1057 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,320 And watch your character because it becomes your destiny. 1058 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,760 And it's so true, man. It all begins with thoughts and 1059 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,160 the way that we think and we perceive and the thoughts that 1060 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:32,920 we're choosing every single day, brother. 1061 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,480 So there's 3 levels of karma in Buddhism and the three levels 1062 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:43,200 karma is defined as intentional action, anything done with an 1063 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,640 intent behind it. And thinking is also an action. 1064 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,640 And there's 3 levels of of intentional action and the 1065 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:54,360 fruits of said action. The 1st is thought, the second 1066 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,080 is speech, and the third is physical action. 1067 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,680 Of the three, which one do you think is the most important to 1068 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:06,600 control right off the bat, or to guide or to pick that has? 1069 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,160 To be your thoughts. Like yeah, because that's 1070 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,440 intrinsic. You're right bro. 1071 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,560 Thoughts are the seeds of speech and physical action. 1072 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,840 Thoughts are the seeds of both speech and physical action. 1073 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,400 Let me break down manifestation real quick for people. 1074 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,560 This is how manifestation happens in the world, bro. 1075 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,280 We have a thought. It's a seed, right? 1076 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,400 It's the seed of both speech and physical action. 1077 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,080 And when a thought comes into our minds, we have two choices. 1078 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,720 We can either allow it to go, or we can choose to act upon the 1079 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,840 thought. If I choose to act upon the 1080 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,000 thought abstractly, metaphorically, I'll plant the 1081 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,120 seed in the ground, put it there, water it, and the plant 1082 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,360 will grow and the fruit will grow. 1083 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,960 In real life terms, what that means is let's say the thought 1084 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,840 is, hey, I want some pizza. Pizza sounds good right now. 1085 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,240 OK, I plant the seed, I put there, I water it. 1086 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,600 What that means is I'm calling up 7 or I'm calling up Pizza 1087 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,320 Hut. Bro, I've taken it to the speech 1088 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,280 level. Hey, I want a double cheese 1089 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,360 stuffed double sausage pizza. Boom, communicate. 1090 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,720 We went from the thought level to the speech level. 1091 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,359 And then I drive over there, I grab the physical pizza and I 1092 01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:20,439 come back. I'm sitting here with this 1093 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:25,120 physical reality, bro, this physical pizza that began as a 1094 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,720 thought. And look around you, bro. 1095 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,880 Every single thing in your room that you're using, your glasses, 1096 01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:36,080 the sweatshirt that you're choosing to wear right now, All 1097 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,760 of those physical realities began with a thought. 1098 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:44,120 It began with a decision to whether or not to act upon this 1099 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,240 thought or to let it go. Also, another quick thing I have 1100 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,040 on thoughts. I have a saying, thoughts are 1101 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,840 just like advertisements. They come up all the time, but 1102 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,040 that doesn't mean you have to buy what they're selling. 1103 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,359 And I say that to give people freedom because thoughts come 1104 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:04,000 and go. As soon as soon as they come up, 1105 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,600 they go. So like, if you don't attach the 1106 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,800 thought, it has no power over you. 1107 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,479 It's our active participation and decision to plant that seed 1108 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:21,479 that manifests it into reality. So in terms of communication and 1109 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,359 using it to master our lives, the most important conversation 1110 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,920 that we need to master every single day is the communication 1111 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,080 with ourselves. And it's the way that we 1112 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,279 communicate with ourselves that leads to how we communicate with 1113 01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:38,279 other people as well. So mastering the internal 1114 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:42,680 dialogue is what will help you master the the external dialogue 1115 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,600 as well. Wow. 1116 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,080 The Bible. Says in the book of Proverbs 1117 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,080 chapter 23, I think verse 7. As a man thinketh in his heart, 1118 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,000 so is he. Absolutely, brother. 1119 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,480 Now here's the beautiful thing. The Bible could not be more 1120 01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:03,840 correct, dude. It's not about what we can think 1121 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,560 in our minds, it's about what we believe in our hearts. 1122 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,080 That's what it is. I could think a certain thing 1123 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,680 with just my mind, but if it's not fueled by the engine of my 1124 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,240 heart, if I don't believe it, then it's it's not going to 1125 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,080 manifest dude. So I, I love that bro. 1126 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,040 The, and I love how you can just quote the Bible instantly and 1127 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,120 know exactly what it is, bro. That, that shows a level of 1128 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,600 mastery that I, I respect a lot. Dude. 1129 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,920 Not a lot of people can actually quote the exact proverb and tell 1130 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,200 me where it's from, dude. So kudos to you man. 1131 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,040 Thank you very much. You know, it's as though you 1132 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,720 knew that I was. Loading. 1133 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,200 Up another one for you. Hebrew chapter. 1134 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,200 Hebrew Chapter 11, verse one. Faith is the substance of things 1135 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,040 hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 1136 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,640 Faith is a softness of things hoped for, the evidence of 1137 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,520 things not seen. And that actually links to that 1138 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:04,240 belief of, you know, what you're hoping for. 1139 01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:07,840 Faith is a softness of things hoped for, the evidence of 1140 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,480 things not seen. And of course, down in that 1141 01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:17,720 Chapter 11, it went on to say Abraham had faith and it was 1142 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,640 counted unto him unto righteousness. 1143 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,880 But without faith it's impossible to please God. 1144 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:27,120 It's powerful. Bro. 1145 01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:33,000 Faith. Is so I I come from a, a family 1146 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,160 of scientists. My, my dad is a PhD physicist, 1147 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:42,160 my mom's APHD chemist and my Chinese dad, my parents split 1148 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,280 up. He, he's got a PhD in, in 1149 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,640 history and all of them are very sceptical, right? 1150 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,120 It's a, we are very skeptical family. 1151 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,440 So growing up I had a lot of Christian friends and the faith 1152 01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:59,480 element of Christianity was always difficult for me, 1153 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:03,680 brother, very difficult because it asked me to believe without 1154 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,680 any evidence. It's like you just have to have 1155 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,040 faith in it. And it's something I still 1156 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,240 struggle with. Like faith without evidence is 1157 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,280 very difficult for me. But for me, what I've, what I've 1158 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:20,400 come to learn is faith, or that I can have faith in is the 1159 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,600 principles that I've tested over and over again with my own life 1160 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,640 experience that hold true no matter what situation I'm in. 1161 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:34,080 So for now, I have faith in the universal principles that I've 1162 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:38,600 experienced and I have faith in the teachings that hold true no 1163 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,920 matter what amount of pressure is I'm under. 1164 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,160 But I'd love to hear your perspective on faith dude. 1165 01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:47,640 You know. For anybody who's been following 1166 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,080 the podcast, you know overtime and by the way, we're recording 1167 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:56,240 this on November 18 and the forecast actually started 1168 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,440 November 19, 2023. So it means tomorrow we're going 1169 01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:02,840 to be clocking 2 years in the game and that's. 1170 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:06,760 Gone. That is gone, you know. 1171 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,960 Thank you very much, brother. Thank you very much, brother. 1172 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,080 You know, I'm grateful two years in other two years we were able 1173 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:20,120 to climb two people top 2.5%. Like I'm grateful, I'm grateful. 1174 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,360 You know, when put that into perspective, a lot of people who 1175 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,640 are at that global top 2.5% ranking actually started three 1176 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,680 years, four years, five years before me. 1177 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,480 And yeah, we're grateful, you know, for speaking about faith. 1178 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:39,240 Even this podcast has been a brainchild of faith. 1179 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,120 You know, when I was going to start, a lot of people were 1180 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:49,080 like, oh, why should a finance guy start a broadcast, right? 1181 01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:52,720 You are a finance guy. You're not a communicator. 1182 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,280 You're not, you know, a broadcaster. 1183 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:59,960 So seats with your finance. Do your finance people like to 1184 01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:02,720 put people in boxes? But I always believed that, you 1185 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,280 know, I would do excellent things. 1186 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,560 I would do great things with this thing. 1187 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:12,960 So it was just an idea, right? I had the faith that I can, you 1188 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,080 know, tell the stories of ordinary people between 1189 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,280 extraordinary things and go global with this thing. 1190 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,800 But I think a lot of people did not believe it until, you know, 1191 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:28,920 they started seeing a lot of great interviews and seeing the 1192 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,920 rankings, the chats, you know, in multiple countries. 1193 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:38,560 Today we're in 92 countries and you know, started with being 1194 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,960 global top 10%. I think we earlier this year 1195 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,880 around May, and I think that's when some people started 1196 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,080 believing in it and at some point became global top 5%, 1197 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:55,040 global top 3%, it was up 2.5%. You know, people start believing 1198 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,960 more that OK, this is no longer a joke, right? 1199 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:03,640 But when it was just an idea, people could not wrap their 1200 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:09,160 heads around it, right? So and that comes back to faith 1201 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,240 is a substance of beings hoped for, the evidence of beings not 1202 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:23,440 seen conceive, believe, achieve. You have to conceive it, you 1203 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:26,720 have to believe it, then you need to strive to thrive before 1204 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,160 you can achieve it. So like you said, everything 1205 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,000 that we see around us was at first of thought. 1206 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,360 So there's a difference between thoughts and thinking. 1207 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,680 So thoughts are like the advertisement and thinking. 1208 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,360 It's processing those thoughts and you can decide to act on it 1209 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:56,400 or not act on it. So that's why our intentions 1210 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:02,800 sometimes are different from our actions because it all depends 1211 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:11,360 on what you act on. So for me, faith is, you know, 1212 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,360 science. I'm also a science person, of 1213 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,760 course. You know, in high school, before 1214 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,840 the secondary school, I was a science student in physics, 1215 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,000 chemistry, biology. So I understand the empirical 1216 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,640 concept. So if you cannot observe A 1217 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:34,280 phenomena, right, you cannot believe in that phenomenon. 1218 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,000 That's the empirical concept, right? 1219 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,600 You. Create laws, you create theories 1220 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,040 around what you've been able to observe, right? 1221 01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:49,240 And it's it's sometimes a conflict managing being a 1222 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,280 science person and being a person of faith. 1223 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:58,640 Science is, you know, very rigid about the observation and faith 1224 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:05,480 is, you know, very deep on believe in what I say blindly, 1225 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:11,160 right, that actualization. But you know, as you go on to 1226 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,720 study faith more, study science board, you discovered that there 1227 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,080 are actually synchronies, right? There are synchronizations 1228 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,840 between faith and science. You have neuroscience, for 1229 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,520 example, that's the study of the brain. 1230 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,600 I've had a couple of neuroscientists on the broadcast 1231 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,120 this year. We've had Doctor Ben Rain, the 1232 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,080 Stanford University neuroscientist on the broadcast. 1233 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,840 We've had Doctor and Johnny Chakala, he's the neuroscientist 1234 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,160 advisor to Think he incorporated. 1235 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:49,000 And these guys explain the complex concept of the brain and 1236 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,920 how the brain works with the prefrontal cortex, for example. 1237 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:59,840 That is like the CEO of the brain and the way the neurons 1238 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,680 are wired. You know, the way the brain 1239 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,480 controls the body, it couldn't have been created by God, right? 1240 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,560 But you know, when you come back to that empirical construct, you 1241 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,200 observe phenomena before you can trust and believe in that 1242 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,560 phenomena, right? And that's why I always say that 1243 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,120 you cannot force faith on people. 1244 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:24,440 The reason why? I'm a Christian is not because 1245 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:27,920 my parents are Christians. The reason why I believe in God 1246 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,680 is not because my parents believe in God is because I've 1247 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,080 been able to observe God come through for me personally. 1248 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,920 I've been able to experience God personally. 1249 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,960 You know when you pray and God comes through for you, you've 1250 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:44,040 been in difficult situations and you express yourself with God 1251 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,680 and finds a way where there's no way. 1252 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:52,840 You know the Bible says he created streams in deserts, 1253 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:59,600 right? So if you're able to get on your 1254 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,800 faith journey and experience God for yourself, that would help 1255 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,560 you to achieve a good balance between science and faith 1256 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:14,160 because you've been able to observe on your own God doing 1257 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:19,200 things for you, God, you know, making things real for you. 1258 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:25,280 So that way you don't need any more proof. 1259 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,320 To prove that God. Really exists. 1260 01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:33,440 And I think that's what makes faith stronger. 1261 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,640 So that balance of faith and science is actually very, very 1262 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,240 much, you know, needed. But a person cannot achieve or 1263 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,920 unlock a higher level of faith if they've not been able to 1264 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:52,560 observe, you know, in their own personal journey, but coming 1265 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:58,040 through for them. So it comes back to our own 1266 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:03,840 lived experience, right? I love that. 1267 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,000 And I'm definitely open. I'm definitely open. 1268 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,400 You know, I think I'm open with everything. 1269 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,520 And one thought that I had about science real quick was science 1270 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,160 should not be used to define the boundaries. 1271 01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:21,880 Science should be used to explore. 1272 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,200 I don't think science should be definitory. 1273 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,160 I think science should be exploratory and science that is 1274 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,520 used to set the boundaries is is not creative enough, I think. 1275 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,920 But yeah, just some thoughts on that. 1276 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,800 And it's interesting 'cause let's go back to linguistics, 1277 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,600 right? There's, there's a higher level 1278 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,800 cause the, the way that I see the human journey of self 1279 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,840 mastery is you go from potentially having, having some 1280 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:58,000 negative right? And then you transcend all of 1281 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,920 that. You rewire the mind. 1282 01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:02,360 All your minds has become positive and now you're on the 1283 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,520 positive. But there's something even 1284 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,960 beyond that. And that's transcending positive 1285 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:12,800 and negative that, that duality. It's going beyond the yin and 1286 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,200 the Yang. And at the end of the day, it's 1287 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:20,040 going beyond all of language all together, because let me ask you 1288 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:20,840 this first. What? 1289 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,000 What came first, humans or human language? 1290 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,840 What came first It? Has to be humans. 1291 01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:35,040 It has to be humans, exactly. So every single word is just a 1292 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,040 sound, right? It's a sound that we've been 1293 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:44,640 taught to connect this sound with this image. 1294 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,360 Like when I say cup cup, you hear that sound. 1295 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:54,720 We both have this right? But Adam all brother, if me and 1296 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,960 you are the last two humans on Earth and we decided to call 1297 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,240 this a watermelon, could we? Let's call it a mug. 1298 01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,880 Well. People call it a mug, but let 1299 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,840 what? What if we called it a beanie? 1300 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,120 Can we? Could we call it a beanie? 1301 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,400 Could we? It is. 1302 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,320 Whatever it is you call it. Exactly. 1303 01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:22,520 So the truth of The thing is not in the name, right? 1304 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,520 So the truth of God is not in the name itself. 1305 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,800 Or else. It would only be God, that 1306 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:35,760 activation phrase, that combination of phonetics that 1307 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,080 would give it power. But Chinese people call it Shen. 1308 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,440 It's that's God as well. It's the same concept. 1309 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,720 So back to the language thing, man. 1310 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:51,680 It's like all words are just empty, Empty sounds that we've 1311 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,520 empowered with our belief and we've been conditioned. 1312 01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,160 It's like a it's a spell essentially in Harry Potter that 1313 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:07,320 creates an output of an image, an energy, and all of our 1314 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,760 emotional attachments to that word. 1315 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,680 But. All of these can be rewired. 1316 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:17,240 So what is left after we've destroyed all of that 1317 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:22,280 conditioning, after we've let go of all words, because all words 1318 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,120 are human creations. They're relative truths. 1319 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,160 They, we use them to communicate, but they don't 1320 01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,520 actually contain the truth. Let me give another example. 1321 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,280 Let's take the example of a flower, right? 1322 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,920 We call it a flower, but is is it truly a flower? 1323 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,960 First off, let's look at the physical phenomenon of the 1324 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:44,720 flower, the material aspect of it. 1325 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:49,240 Bro, if you look deeply in the heart of a flower, you can see 1326 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,520 that the flower is only made of non flower components. 1327 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,360 It's made of the soil, it's made of the seed, it's made of the 1328 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,360 rain, it's made of the sunshine that that nurtured it right? 1329 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:10,680 And if I took away the rain, could this flower be no flower? 1330 01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,680 Is there rain or sorry, no rain? If there's no rain, is there a 1331 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,000 flower? Yes or no? 1332 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,200 If there's no rain, definitely there's no flower because you 1333 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,960 know, whichever way you want to process it, water is, you know, 1334 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:30,440 is important for that equation. So let's, let's take rain as 1335 01:24:30,440 --> 01:24:32,840 water. So it's impossible. 1336 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:38,280 Exactly. And then for the rain to be, we 1337 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,440 need the clouds, right? For the clouds to be, we need 1338 01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:47,320 the whole atmosphere of Earth. For the atmosphere of Earth, we 1339 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,200 need the perfect alignment of everything in the entire 1340 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,120 universe to be exactly where it is, to have the right 1341 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,400 temperature, to have our atmosphere. 1342 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,120 If the sun was a bit closer, it'd be too hot, no atmosphere. 1343 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,840 If the sun was a bit further away, it'd be too cold, no 1344 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,600 atmosphere. That's why there's a phrase like 1345 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,440 you can see the entire universe inside of a single flower. 1346 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,640 You can see the Buddha inside of a single leaf. 1347 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,680 And that's the physical dimension, right? 1348 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:19,000 So all phenomena are only made of things that are not that 1349 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,920 phenomena. And that goes for flour, that 1350 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,480 goes for organic things, that goes for inorganic things. 1351 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,640 But let's take it to the linguistic level. 1352 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:34,320 Even flour FLOWER, it's composed of these letters, right? 1353 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,000 But if we took away the R at the end, take away the R at the end 1354 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:45,720 of flower, what is it? Flow, flow, flow, flowy. 1355 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,240 What is it that that doesn't, that doesn't evoke the same 1356 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,680 concept? It doesn't evoke the same image 1357 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,120 and the same feelings as flower, right? 1358 01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,760 So we can see that all of all of our conditioned responses are 1359 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,440 just that. They're just conditioned 1360 01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:09,360 responses to certain sounds that we've codified into different 1361 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,200 languages. Bro. 1362 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,320 So language is the magic of humanity. 1363 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,000 It's what we use to communicate, but it's it's not what we should 1364 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,520 anchor our identities in. That's why in my book, I say 1365 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,880 that we need to transform our relationship with language from 1366 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,640 an anchor of identity to a tool with utility. 1367 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,360 And it's been very important for me on my journey because I was 1368 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:40,480 born this name, Yuen Yu Fong. And then growing up, my friends 1369 01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:43,240 and family called me Kai Kai. That was my nickname. 1370 01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,360 Then when I went to the States, they chopped off one of the 1371 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,200 Kai's and left out the tone. They just called me Kai. 1372 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,120 That's my English name. Cobra Kai. 1373 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:56,760 Cobra Kai, man. And at that time, bro, I 1374 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,560 remember feeling like an actor. I was like, who's Kai? 1375 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,440 Like I don't know who Kai is. So I became like a chameleon, 1376 01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:05,920 like an actor almost bro like method acting. 1377 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:12,000 This identity of Kai and these names that we have, they're one 1378 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,040 of our strongest attachments. And now I'm realizing that my 1379 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,520 whole entire life, I'm able to see it from a different 1380 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,960 perspective. I'm not seeing it as a victim. 1381 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,440 I'm seeing it as, hey, this helps me understand these 1382 01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:28,960 Buddhist truths and these universal truths and an even 1383 01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,560 deeper level so that I can help people at a higher level. 1384 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,800 So that's how I'm choosing to transform it. 1385 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:41,840 There's a great Buddhist concept, no mud, no Lotus, no 1386 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,560 mud, no Lotus. This beautiful Lotus flower can 1387 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,280 only grow out of mud. And it's the same with humans. 1388 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:52,680 If we're able to transform all of our challenges, transform all 1389 01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,640 of our sufferings, then we're able to create beauty and truth 1390 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:01,520 from what we're we're able to create beauty and no truth from 1391 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,440 that. And when we know the truth, the 1392 01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:07,800 truth will set us free. Know the truth and the truth 1393 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:14,360 just that Use me. Wow, you talk about language for 1394 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:20,840 utility and it made me remember the fact that you are a poet. 1395 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,760 I feel like you. The language for poetry is a 1396 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:30,120 form of utility. And I, I, I love to, when I say, 1397 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,840 get a deep dive into any one of your poems, especially one that 1398 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,360 relates to the concept of mindset. 1399 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,000 Let me let me do you one better bro. 1400 01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,520 First, go. I'll, I'll, I'll sing you 2 1401 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,920 songs. I'll sing you 2 songs because. 1402 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,960 Wow, I love music. By the way, did you know? 1403 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,320 I did not know, but no. You know. 1404 01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,960 Let's go. There was. 1405 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,440 You don't know. Now you know. 1406 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:07,920 Now I know, dude. So I think music is some poetry. 1407 01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:12,920 That's what I believe it is. Music is poetry that is some and 1408 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:17,200 the first song, it is first song I wanted to sing for you is to 1409 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:23,000 commemorate your podcast, bro. I want to I want to sing you my 1410 01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,360 way by Frank Sinatra. So let's do it, bro. 1411 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:33,240 Let me get some water first. Let me, let me top off my my my 1412 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,840 mug. Sounds good man. 1413 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:41,880 Jesus Christ, cheers bro. I'm topping up mine too. 1414 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,480 Don't copy me, don't copy me. I'm not your robe model. 1415 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,840 You know. It's a Nigerian joke by the way. 1416 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,960 You see, you not copy me. I am not your robe model. 1417 01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:00,520 I am not your what I am not. Your role model. 1418 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,280 Role model. Got it. 1419 01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:04,880 I'm not your role model. Yeah, yeah. 1420 01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,680 How about? Don't copy me, make your own Jol 1421 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,960 of rice. Whoa, you know about? 1422 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:16,280 Jol of rice, right? Wow, that that that's great. 1423 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,200 Jolo price is Jolo Price is our national meal. 1424 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,720 That's. That's that's the most famous 1425 01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,400 theme from Nigeria basically, you know. 1426 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:30,080 Yeah, I had AI had a a friend who's Ghanaian and a Co worker 1427 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,320 who's Nigerian and they always argued about who had the better 1428 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,040 job of rice man. Oh, not yeah. 1429 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,880 That's that's, that's the rivalry between Nigeria and 1430 01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,520 Ghana. But we call it the Jolof War, 1431 01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:46,560 yeah. Dude, it's so funny, dude. 1432 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,680 Yeah, that's. Funny, right? 1433 01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,520 We call it the Jolof War, like always, arguing about who has 1434 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,800 the better Jolof Rice. I love it. 1435 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:59,720 It's it's a nice playful banter. It's it's crazy, right, who's 1436 01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,240 got the better to low price, but he he. 1437 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:05,760 Do you know who even? Has the best to low price. 1438 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,880 It's it's not Nigerite, it's not Ghana. 1439 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,240 That's a funny thing. It's actually Senegal, Senegal. 1440 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:18,640 OK. Yeah, of course that is where 1441 01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:23,000 that is where to low price basically originated from or 1442 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,280 because Nigeria is a very big country, 220 million plus 1443 01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:31,200 people. So they just snatched the the 1444 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:36,120 meal and made it their own. Got it, Got it. 1445 01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:43,520 I'm refilling. My pop. 1446 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,080 You mean your watermelon? Yeah, my. 1447 01:31:48,080 --> 01:32:01,400 Watermelon. Whoa, There you go. 1448 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,520 Let's go. Oh, I think we have about 30 1449 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,320 minutes left. Cheers, bro. 1450 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,360 Yeah. Whoa. 1451 01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,000 Cheers, man. Cheers. 1452 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,000 Cheers. Wow. 1453 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,240 Hey, so. Now I'm in a good place to 1454 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,040 listen to a song. All right, let's. 1455 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:22,800 Do it No2 song. Alright, I haven't done this for 1456 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,840 a while. Give my best shot. 1457 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:38,400 And now the end is near. And so I'll face the final 1458 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:45,400 curtain, my friend. I'll say it clear. 1459 01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:52,640 I stayed my case, of which I'm certain. 1460 01:32:53,920 --> 01:33:04,320 I've lived the life that's full. I've travelled each and every 1461 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:09,480 highway and more. Much. 1462 01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:18,520 More than this, you did it your way, my guy. 1463 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:25,680 Whoa, love and. Respect. 1464 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,240 Very, very, very much appreciated, brother. 1465 01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:32,320 Wow, you did it your way. OK, OK, OK. 1466 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:39,560 Bro good respect. To you man, a top 2.5% podcast 1467 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:45,080 and going going even higher, 1% top 0.1%, that ain't easy man. 1468 01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,000 So that is the goal. That is the goal, brother. 1469 01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:50,960 Whoa now. Now I'm curious. 1470 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,720 What is the what is the next one? 1471 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,840 What is the next one? The next one, you asked about 1472 01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:01,080 one of my poems, so I will actually share with you one of 1473 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,920 my songs that I wrote. You know what, I have my guitar. 1474 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,920 I'll play it for you. Let's. 1475 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,160 Go let us. Go. 1476 01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,320 Actually, this is my upstairs neighbor's guitar, so shout out 1477 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,600 to Sue Hung upstairs. Shout out to Sue Warren. 1478 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,480 God bless. Yes. 1479 01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:32,720 Can you hear that? Whoa, I love the. 1480 01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,320 Guitar. I love the guitar that is 1481 01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:42,360 acoustic hold. On between this thing. 1482 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,920 Can you hear that? All right, Cool. 1483 01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,280 This song is great. The. 1484 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,920 Song is it was actually inspired by the the flower example that I 1485 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:48,600 shared with you, and I call it the flower of you, the flower of 1486 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,200 you. Yeah, sounds amazing. 1487 01:35:52,200 --> 01:36:14,920 Let's go. just a flower. 1488 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:20,280 Yeah, but I see the sun, I see the moon. 1489 01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,480 It is their light within her bloom. 1490 01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:31,440 A flower may seem like just a flower. 1491 01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:35,000 Yeah. But I see the sun. 1492 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:40,520 I see the bees. It is the kiss that makes them 1493 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,240 breathe. What? 1494 01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,640 but I see. I haven't played this for a 1495 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,440 while bro. I can't remember what it is. 1496 01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:00,200 Let me think. Ah, sorry man. 1497 01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,480 I see. The flower but. 1498 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:10,720 The, the message is, you know, we're, we're all like that 1499 01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:16,760 flower with there's so much more to us than just our name than to 1500 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,200 anything that is contained within the name. 1501 01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,760 So the, the lyrics, let me try to remember it. 1502 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,600 Let me put this guitar down 1st. Whoa. 1503 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:37,720 OK, I had actually kind of paused my musical journey for a 1504 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,160 while because the Buddha said why? 1505 01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:45,040 The Buddha. Advised practitioners that 1506 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:51,880 because if there's still desire within someone, music will fan 1507 01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:56,120 the flames of that desire. So he advised practitioners to 1508 01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:02,400 avoid a certain sensual stimuli, to focus more on the path. 1509 01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,920 But I also think that music can be a vehicle of truth. 1510 01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,480 And that's, that's my intention for it. 1511 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:15,560 So the lyrics of this go, a flower may seem like just a 1512 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:19,680 flower, but I see this. Hold on, let me think. 1513 01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,040 But I see the sun, I see the moon. 1514 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,640 It is their light within her bloom. 1515 01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:35,120 So you can see the light of the sun and the moon in the blooming 1516 01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:39,480 of the flower, in the flower itself, just like the rain. 1517 01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:42,080 Without the sun, there is no flower, man. 1518 01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,120 It's just without that nourishment from the sun, there 1519 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,320 is no flower. And it's the same with us, man. 1520 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,840 Everybody's just like this flower without this water, this 1521 01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,200 tea, like without the liquids that we consume every day. 1522 01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:00,920 It just goes to show that we are not islands and that we have to 1523 01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:05,000 be really careful about what we consume, what we allow in, 1524 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:09,080 because all of it is actually going in and it will create a 1525 01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:12,200 corresponding output. And it's also the song. 1526 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,080 My hope is to show people that we are so much more than 1527 01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:20,160 anything that we can be called, and to know that you are beyond 1528 01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:23,240 what language can express. And it's beautiful. 1529 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:28,560 Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. And of course, Speaking of 1530 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,080 languages, you are a global citizen. 1531 01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:35,640 You speak English, Chinese, I guess that's Mandarin, 1532 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:40,560 Indonesian, Japanese, Korean. Just a tiny bit. 1533 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,560 Just a tiny bit. You. 1534 01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:47,560 Know very levels keyword. Very levels. 1535 01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,640 So how deep operating across cultures and languages change 1536 01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,080 the way you see humanity and leadership? 1537 01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:01,280 Wow, man. Every language carries with it 1538 01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:05,120 its own unique energy and its own unique concepts. 1539 01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:10,400 And I think part of part of the longevity of China, part of the 1540 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:14,360 reason why it's lasted for so long, is because within the 1541 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,520 language itself and in the culture itself. 1542 01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:21,000 Like if I if I were to see an older gentleman on the street I 1543 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,320 could call him uncle. Like we do that. 1544 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,640 Like we literally just say uncle to any people. 1545 01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,440 Dude on the street is. That shifu. 1546 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:28,720 It's not. Shifu. 1547 01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:32,960 Is that shifu? Yeah. 1548 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:38,600 Shushu, Shushu and there's AI and there's Gugu Mei Mei, these 1549 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,840 concepts of like you, you can call anybody a Big Brother, 1550 01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:45,800 anybody a little sister, anybody an auntie, anybody an uncle. 1551 01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:50,520 And it's through that lens, I think that the language 1552 01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,880 determines the energy and the longevity of the culture. 1553 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:59,720 I kind of feel. And like with Japanese, there's 1554 01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,800 some incredibly beautiful concepts that guide how they 1555 01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,000 live. There's a concept called Kaizen. 1556 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,960 Have you heard of it? Yeah, I've heard of Kaizen. 1557 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:12,680 I've heard of our that's, that's one Ikika Haiku. 1558 01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:20,320 Yeah, Hiki Guy, Hikika Origami. That's the art with the papers. 1559 01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:25,920 But then haiku. Haiku, the poem, the the 17 1560 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,400 syllables. Yep. 1561 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:32,480 I think so. Faraguchi. 1562 01:42:32,480 --> 01:42:35,880 What's Faraguchi again? I'm not sure about that. 1563 01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,040 Yeah. Yeah, just like different 1564 01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,200 concepts. But like the samurai culture is 1565 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:47,080 something that like really, really would I say is amazing to 1566 01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,520 me. The samurai culture death before 1567 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,680 the sauna. It's. 1568 01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,640 Like. That these people view life from 1569 01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:01,120 a different land. They do and it's it's very 1570 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,440 powerful to learn from every single culture, from every 1571 01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:07,040 single country with from every single language. 1572 01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:10,440 I think there's merit and there's beauty and there's truth 1573 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,880 and all of it. The concept of Kai Zen is the 1574 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,800 art of continuous improvement. That's what it means. 1575 01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,480 It's essentially the 1% better 1%. 1576 01:43:20,480 --> 01:43:22,760 Better every day. I love it. 1577 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,480 I think that's what I do, you know, just 1% every day. 1578 01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:28,240 Hey. I'm more interested. 1579 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,520 I think you're doing at least 2.5% every day. 1580 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,600 Thank you very much, brother. That's why we're. 1581 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:43,360 Global top 2.5% right now. Let's go 2.5. 1582 01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:44,280 Percent. Every day. 1583 01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:45,680 Whoa. Brother. 1584 01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:49,600 You know, let's talk about community leadership and you are 1585 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,240 at the heart of building the world's number one 1586 01:43:53,480 --> 01:43:57,920 entrepreneurship community in the world that is number one. 1587 01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,040 I've I've been. Privileged to have. 1588 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,920 People that are #1 in the world awarded you on this broadcast. 1589 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,040 For example, I've had Brett King, right? 1590 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:12,680 Brett King is the founder of the world's first diesel bank, 1591 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,840 right? Moving so before we had the 1592 01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:21,120 likes of Beverly Monzo, you know, we had Morgan and Breaking 1593 01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:25,480 is the host of the world's number one ranked fintech 1594 01:44:25,480 --> 01:44:27,480 podcast, which is Breaking banks. 1595 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:35,480 We've had guys from Money 2020, for example, Zach Pettit, Money 1596 01:44:35,480 --> 01:44:40,080 20 is the world's largest fintech conference. 1597 01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,880 So number one in the world is not a joke. 1598 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,400 In order to be the best, you have to beat the best, and the 1599 01:44:47,440 --> 01:44:53,200 best is blessed. So you need that number one 1600 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,720 school of entrepreneurship in the world, right? 1601 01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:01,400 What does it take to build trust, belonging, momentum at 1602 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,720 scale for over 5000 entrepreneurs? 1603 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,720 Yeah. We're we're I think we're at 1604 01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,400 like 6700 now, brother and and growing. 1605 01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,800 Yeah, that's. What I said over over 5K, you 1606 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,080 know, that's the bilestone. I decided to to to eat the 1607 01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,520 bilestone. No, I. 1608 01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,360 I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it. 1609 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,920 I, I say it because I want to. I want to really celebrate my 1610 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:29,120 team. I want to celebrate this school 1611 01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,840 of Hard Knocks guys, Jack, James and Josh. 1612 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,480 They've put incredible work to build this. 1613 01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:35,440 Amazing. Amazing. 1614 01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,720 Amazing individuals. Amazing. 1615 01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,320 Shout out to them. Shout out to. 1616 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:42,600 Them and for those who don't know that the School of Mentors 1617 01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:47,840 is the entrepreneurial community that they founded based off of 1618 01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:52,320 the School of Hard Knocks and I think one yeah. 1619 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,360 And they have their own. Podcast as well they have their 1620 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,800 own podcast as well like their podcast is so great that I have 1621 01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,840 recommended it on my own platform like I appreciate their 1622 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,760 work you know shout out to Jack James yeah we should have James 1623 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,440 doc on the podcast as well yeah I think I'm. 1624 01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:08,560 Going to reach out to James. Like. 1625 01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,600 I really appreciate. You know, his philosophies and 1626 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,760 what he's building, you know. Big shout out to him. 1627 01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,400 Up next, James. This is the second. 1628 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,800 Person we have manifested, right, James, See you soon on 1629 01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,840 the podcast. Let's go, let's go, bro. 1630 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,080 Yeah bro. I would definitely include Jack 1631 01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:29,320 and Josh too. The Co founders are incredibly 1632 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:30,920 sharp guys. Yeah, bro. 1633 01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:36,480 Bro bro yeah. Include Open invitation JJJ, 1634 01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,880 Jack, JJ. James. 1635 01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:41,880 We won the three JS on this podcast. 1636 01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,120 See you guys. Soon, see you. 1637 01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:45,800 Guys. Soon. 1638 01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,520 The interesting thing is, you know, anytime you hear me quote 1639 01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,800 the Bible, I'm always quoting in King James Version because that 1640 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:56,520 was what I grew up reading. That's cool. 1641 01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:05,320 Man, yeah, I so yeah, I won. Huge shout out to the guys, the 1642 01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:09,000 energy of the school of Hard Knocks and the people that they 1643 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,880 tend to attract. I want to just say like are some 1644 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:15,960 of the kindest, most positive, most empowered, most, most 1645 01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,680 growth oriented people in the world. 1646 01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,360 And it's really my pleasure to to head that kind of community 1647 01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:26,240 with those kinds of people. Now in terms of leadership, I 1648 01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:32,880 think what's beautiful is it's, it's about creating space for 1649 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,800 people. I think of course we have the, 1650 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,520 the weekly calls with millionaire and billionaire 1651 01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,480 mentors. We got billionaire day coming up 1652 01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:44,920 like in an hour and 15 minutes, we got 3 billionaires coming on. 1653 01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:48,840 And the level of mentorship that people get access to inside the 1654 01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:52,840 school of mentors for the price point that we offered at is 1655 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,880 absolutely unparalleled, bro. It's unparalleled. 1656 01:47:56,480 --> 01:48:01,640 And, and dude, we're building, we're building 1 of the greatest 1657 01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:05,040 curriculums for entrepreneurs at every phase of the 1658 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,600 entrepreneurial journey. I'm heading that project. 1659 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:12,120 I'm incredibly proud of it. And basically the mentorship 1660 01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,720 calls with the millionaires and billionaires, those live calls 1661 01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:17,560 are what you want. But the self development 1662 01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:22,080 contained within the curriculum is what you need to succeed and 1663 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,520 to continue putting in the hard work to actually make it, to 1664 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,440 make it work and to be successful. 1665 01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:32,800 But all of that aside, aside from those incredible resources, 1666 01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:37,400 I think the key to our success has been the culture that we've 1667 01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,600 created inside of the community. We've created a go giving 1668 01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,720 culture. This is taken from the book The 1669 01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:48,400 Go Giver by the great John David Mann, and it switches up that 1670 01:48:48,480 --> 01:48:53,000 classic go getter paradigm with the go giver paradigm. 1671 01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,920 So let's take the example of a pie, right? 1672 01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,480 Everybody looks at this pie and the go getter is like, hey, how 1673 01:48:59,480 --> 01:49:01,440 can I go and get my slice of that pie? 1674 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,520 It's good to be a go getter. You know, in life, sometimes you 1675 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,560 got to be a go getter. But the go giver thinks, hey, 1676 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,760 how can I make this pie even bigger for everybody else? 1677 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,760 How can I contribute more value to this pie? 1678 01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:18,800 And the go giver is someone that always leads with value 1st. 1679 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,920 And we've created a beautiful culture of go giving inside the 1680 01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,800 community where we lead. And we give as much as we can so 1681 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,000 that everybody can level up as much as they can as quickly as 1682 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,400 possible. And we've built that culture. 1683 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:36,360 And thankfully, we have amazing members who like yourself, are 1684 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:40,360 giving opportunities, are giving platforms, are sharing insights, 1685 01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:44,240 takeaways, knowledge. And the momentum is just 1686 01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:46,080 building and building and building and building. 1687 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:51,280 And I think another amazing book to draw upon for creating 1688 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,920 community is called The Culture Code. 1689 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,760 The Culture Code, I think his name is Daniel Coyle. 1690 01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,320 Yeah, amazing guy. And what Daniel says that it's 1691 01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:04,000 really important to create what is called a vulnerability loop. 1692 01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:07,320 OK, what is a vulnerability loop? 1693 01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:10,760 It's a loop created by the first two people. 1694 01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,600 There's a leader that starts the loop that opens up the realm of 1695 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:18,280 vulnerability by sharing maybe their own doubts, their own 1696 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,080 securities, their own challenges. 1697 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:24,800 And then the the second person is also key in continuing that 1698 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,920 loop. First they accept and then they 1699 01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,320 start sharing their own vulnerabilities as well. 1700 01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,720 And with those first two leaders, you've created what is 1701 01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:37,240 called a vulnerability loop. A loop and a space where people 1702 01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:41,040 feel safe enough to drop their guard, where they can be 1703 01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:44,200 themselves, where they can breathe inside the space where 1704 01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,320 they feel safe enough to contribute from their own unique 1705 01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,520 experiences. And that is the online community 1706 01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,040 that we built. And it's something that I'm 1707 01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:56,280 super proud of. And for me, one of my key core 1708 01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:01,160 values is include inclusivity, inclusion and compassion and 1709 01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,800 creating space and also listening. 1710 01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:07,680 That's a key component of it. Learning to listen with the 1711 01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,000 intention is 1. Mouth. 1712 01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:13,160 Exactly brother and Zen master tik not Han. 1713 01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:15,840 I go to him a lot. He's one of my spiritual 1714 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,120 fathers. He's the founder of Plum Plum 1715 01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:24,560 Village, a monastery in France, and he's basically the godfather 1716 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,000 of mindfulness. He brought mindfulness in 1717 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:30,160 Buddhism to the West. And one of his quotes that is 1718 01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:36,000 like the foundation of my life is understanding is the 1719 01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:40,400 foundation of love. In fact, it is Love's other 1720 01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:45,640 name, understanding. And that's a core principle that 1721 01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:49,360 I operate with and that I teach my team to operate with, which 1722 01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:53,560 is come with the intention to understand, come and understand 1723 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,600 the client, Come and understand our members. 1724 01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,400 What are their pain points? What do they actually need? 1725 01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,520 And then listen and communicate in such a way that makes them 1726 01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,080 feel heard, that makes them feel understood. 1727 01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,760 And then also deliver the tactical thing that can actually 1728 01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:10,840 help them. If you can do that bro, you've 1729 01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,600 covered the mindset, the skill set, and the tool set and you're 1730 01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,360 good. Wow. 1731 01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:19,080 You know. You talk about love, right? 1732 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:27,520 And about what love is about. It's interesting that the Bible 1733 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,080 actually aligns with that philosophy. 1734 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:36,800 First Corinthians chapter 14 verse 4 says love suffers long 1735 01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,720 and is kind. Love does not envy. 1736 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:45,240 Love does not parade itself. It's not puffed up, does not 1737 01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:49,120 behave really, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no 1738 01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:53,560 evil, does not rejoice in iniquity or rejoices in the 1739 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,520 truth. There's all things, believes all 1740 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,920 things, hopes all things, and gives all things. 1741 01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,840 That's beautiful, but love? Is. 1742 01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:10,440 That's beautiful and the by bro, as as a Buddhist practitioner, I 1743 01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,920 literally could not agree with the Bible more right now. 1744 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:19,160 Like that is that is such a beautiful essence that it's that 1745 01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:22,920 it's communicating and it's it's very, very true. 1746 01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:24,280 It's very, very true. Wow. 1747 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:30,760 You know, I love the fact that you you aligned with my 1748 01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,440 philosophy of mindset skill sets. 1749 01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:36,560 Also, you know and your career has actually spanned teaching, 1750 01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:40,120 acting teacher being songwriting, marketing research, 1751 01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:42,560 leadership for. What skill? 1752 01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,200 Would you say has given you the greatest return on investment 1753 01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,400 and why? It's communication, man. 1754 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,240 That's I was. Expecting that I was that as 1755 01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,440 well. You don't. 1756 01:53:54,440 --> 01:53:59,560 Disappoint me. Bro, it it is, it is what it is 1757 01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,440 and it's why I'm here and it's why you're here. 1758 01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:06,480 And let's, let's go back to Malcolm Gladwell, the tipping 1759 01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:08,960 point, right? There's people who are mavens 1760 01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:12,680 and people who are connectors and they're salesman, the maven 1761 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:16,160 and the connector archetypes. The maven is someone who is an 1762 01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:20,640 amazing curator of knowledge and can communicate that and can 1763 01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,760 teach that, and the connector connects people together. 1764 01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:27,680 Now, I think if you have a very high level of skill and 1765 01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:32,080 communication, all of these things that you pick up, you're 1766 01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:36,920 able to share with other people at a very high level in order 1767 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:39,880 that they can understand it as easily as possible. 1768 01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:44,400 For me, I optimize my communication for 1769 01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,600 understandability. I want to make it as easy as 1770 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,960 possible to understand. I think that's the sign of true 1771 01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:51,360 mastery. It's not. 1772 01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:55,720 Hey, how many SAT words can I pull out of my, my, you know, to 1773 01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:59,800 impress somebody? No, because my, my intention is 1774 01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:04,320 not to impress you. My intention is to communicate 1775 01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:08,080 things that are truly valuable, that can actually help you move 1776 01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:09,760 forward in your own life's journey. 1777 01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:12,840 And in order to reach the maximum amount, amount of 1778 01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:16,440 people, communicating with simplicity is the best way to do 1779 01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:20,280 that. So the number one ROI thing for 1780 01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:25,440 me is definitely communication. And it goes beyond, of course, 1781 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,960 communicating with others. Like we go back to the 1782 01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,760 importance, what is the most important conversation we're all 1783 01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,880 having every single day? It's the one with ourselves. 1784 01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:37,520 And if we can learn to communicate with ourselves, with 1785 01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:42,960 love, with patience, with peace, with compassion, then we can 1786 01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,480 learn to do that for the others, for, for the world and for for 1787 01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:51,320 others in the world. And Adam Olem, everybody, a lot 1788 01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,640 of people are focusing on collective change, right? 1789 01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:57,800 Let's get collective change. But dude, collective change is 1790 01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:02,320 just the aggregate of individual change on a big scale. 1791 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:06,600 So dude, I really believe these kinds of conversations that 1792 01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,520 we're having right here, this kind of education, this kind of 1793 01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:13,680 sharing, this is the most important thing that we can be 1794 01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,520 doing to help move humanity in a better direction. 1795 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,480 It's sharing valuable consciousness, bro. 1796 01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:22,760 So I think communication is absolutely key. 1797 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:27,000 And it's also important for personal relationships as well. 1798 01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:32,680 Like there can be so much love. Like, but if I'm unable to 1799 01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:37,880 express my love, then the other person won't feel my love, you 1800 01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,080 know? And I think mastering 1801 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:44,560 communication allows your love to be felt at the maximum 1802 01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:49,880 impact, which I think is a worthy motivation for pursuing 1803 01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:51,880 and mastering the art of communication. 1804 01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:58,440 Wow, so. Scaling people, not just 1805 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,680 platforms, actually involves communication. 1806 01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:05,320 So you are responsible for hiring, for training, for 1807 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:09,200 onboarding, you know, for the curriculum, for customer success 1808 01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:13,240 and communication. So what systems or frameworks do 1809 01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:17,560 you use to keep the community engaged, aligned and to continue 1810 01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:24,960 to grow? Yeah, there's, there's two ways 1811 01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,560 to help people grow that I focused on. 1812 01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,360 I I used to be a teacher in China. 1813 01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:34,480 I taught English in a city called Yuyang in the Hunan 1814 01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,840 province. It's a Tier 3 city, relatively 1815 01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:39,080 smaller, still like a million people. 1816 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,640 So that's a that's a small city in China. 1817 01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:48,440 And I learned from from teaching kids aged 4 to 15 that the power 1818 01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:52,360 of praise and the power of challenge cannot be understated. 1819 01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:56,080 And there's a saying that goes, the feminine grows through 1820 01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:59,200 praise and the masculine grows through challenge. 1821 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,920 The feminine grows through praise and the masculine grows 1822 01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:07,120 through challenge. So for me, praise is a huge key 1823 01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:11,000 aspect of me helping people grow, as is challenge. 1824 01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:16,000 So anytime anyone does something that I know to be good for 1825 01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,640 themselves, for their own personal development, like 1826 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:22,840 showing up to a call, doing an exercise, bro, I, I heap 1827 01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:26,280 abundant praise on that person because it takes a lot of 1828 01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,880 courage to reach that point. You know, it takes a lot of 1829 01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:32,800 momentum and I never, I didn't get as much praise as I would 1830 01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:37,680 have benefited from potentially. So I know that like, hey, that's 1831 01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,400 something that I wish I would have had. 1832 01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,400 So I try to give as much praise as I can and I do it 1833 01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:46,200 specifically. Like I, I do my best to connect. 1834 01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,120 It's not a general praise. It's like, hey, like I really 1835 01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:52,440 want to celebrate your amazing communication skills. 1836 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:57,040 I'll praise something specific and praise them in public. 1837 01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:00,520 You know, if there's a conflict, address it privately. 1838 01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:03,800 If there's something you're dissatisfied with, train that 1839 01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:09,840 privately, privately, sorry. Anytime like you see potential 1840 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:13,480 for improvement in somebody like never have that conversation 1841 01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:16,160 publicly. Have it privately as as often as 1842 01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:20,960 you can and praise publicly. And then issuing challenges, 1843 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:23,360 brother, is a great way to help people grow as well. 1844 01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:26,440 It's not a challenge in that I want conflict. 1845 01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:29,520 No, it's a challenge in that I believe in your potential and 1846 01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,800 let's set a time frame for you to achieve this. 1847 01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,920 So like a challenge might be. Brother. 1848 01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:38,440 Like I challenge you to breakthrough the top 1% in the 1849 01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:43,720 next three months. You know, that's a goal and and. 1850 01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:47,320 Boom, it becomes a goal, right? So the power of praise and the 1851 01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:51,520 power of challenge, those, those are essential and making people 1852 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:55,320 feel appreciated for the work that they do, man, for 1853 01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:58,520 everything that they contribute. It's, it's, it's key. 1854 01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:02,440 It's people want to be people want to feel seen, they want to 1855 02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:04,840 feel heard and they want to feel appreciated. 1856 02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:09,240 So anytime someone contributes to the community, I always do my 1857 02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:11,880 best. I train my team to, you know, 1858 02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:18,480 appreciate to accept and to connect on that thing and to 1859 02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:21,560 encourage. And to praise and to challenge. 1860 02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:25,840 And those are kind of the tools that I use to help people in 1861 02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:29,200 their personal development, to help the community continue 1862 02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:31,840 growing. Because the community is just a 1863 02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:34,840 bunch of people coming together. So if I focus on the people 1864 02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:38,720 inside the community, then I'm going to help the community 1865 02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:42,160 itself. Wow. 1866 02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:44,760 So. Speaking of. 1867 02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,720 Mindset. The Buddha within. 1868 02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:50,160 We founded millions of Buddhas. What does it really mean? 1869 02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:54,800 Thank you for asking, brother. So the dream of billions of 1870 02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,240 Buddhas. Buddhism believes that everybody 1871 02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:01,960 has their own inner Buddha. Every human being, every, all 1872 02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:06,920 life has an inner Buddha. Now, it's not trying to convert 1873 02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:10,120 people to Buddhism. It's helping them tap into their 1874 02:01:10,120 --> 02:01:15,320 own inner Buddha, that center of peace within them, that peaceful 1875 02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:19,000 stillness, that joyfulness. And I just see so much in the 1876 02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:20,640 world. There's so much chaos, and the 1877 02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:24,240 chaos is growing and the world is accelerating, and people are 1878 02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:26,440 stressed out and depressed and anxious. 1879 02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,800 And I know that I was like that too. 1880 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:33,040 And now that I found a system for peace, I want to help share 1881 02:01:33,040 --> 02:01:36,640 that system of inner peace with everybody so that they can enjoy 1882 02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:39,840 that peace, so that they can live life at their own pace. 1883 02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:44,520 And even if life is moving fast, they have an eye of the storm 1884 02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,840 that they can abide from and operate from. 1885 02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:51,360 Because that's the truth. Like once, once you see the 1886 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:57,560 truth of how reality is and how our universe is designed, peace 1887 02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:00,280 just washes over you. That's been my own personal 1888 02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,840 experience. So for me, it's my wish for 1889 02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:07,560 peace for the world. Put into 3 words billions of 1890 02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:12,480 Buddhas and I also think, hey man, 1 Buddha did so much good 1891 02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:16,560 one Jesus did so much good. What if we had billions of 1892 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:18,320 Buddhas? What if what if we had billions 1893 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:23,680 of Jesus's man And the what why I say that is I, I don't think 1894 02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:26,800 it's possible to become Jesus in, in Christianity. 1895 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,800 I think that's sacrilege. There's Christ consciousness 1896 02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,160 that we can embody. I've done my own research into 1897 02:02:32,160 --> 02:02:34,720 Christianity and I definitely believe in that. 1898 02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:41,960 But in Buddhism, the belief is that the, the, it is a 1899 02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:45,520 possibility within human potential to actually become a 1900 02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:48,280 Buddha like that is within human potential. 1901 02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:51,880 I, I can't become Jesus because that'd be sacrilegious, but I 1902 02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:56,360 can bring my level of self development and self mastery to 1903 02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:59,680 the level of a Buddha. And I am fascinated by that 1904 02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,680 potential man. And I think that's what we need. 1905 02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:06,560 And I just think that's what is good for the world. 1906 02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:09,640 So that's the direction that I'm I've dedicated my life to do. 1907 02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:14,680 You want to know an interesting parallel to what you're saying 1908 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:20,440 about Buddhism and Christianity? So it's pretty much the same 1909 02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:21,800 thing. In Christianity, the word 1910 02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:24,160 Christian actually means Christ to like. 1911 02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:27,840 That is. You should be Christ to like 1912 02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:31,880 like Christ. So that's also the intention. 1913 02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:36,240 If you can have multiple billions of Christ unlike 1914 02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:39,080 individuals on earth, it would be a better place. 1915 02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:44,520 It'd be heaven on earth. And in in many ways it already 1916 02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:47,080 is, depending on your perspective. 1917 02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:50,320 Like right now, brother, sharing this beautiful conversation with 1918 02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:52,640 you. I think we're already in heaven 1919 02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:54,080 on earth. I think we're already in 1920 02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:56,480 Nirvana. We're already in enlightenment. 1921 02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:59,080 In that experience. It's because I'm grateful. 1922 02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,280 You know, as you said, time is life. 1923 02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:05,000 Our life is just composed of time and I appreciate you 1924 02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,520 sharing your time and your life with me man, so thank you. 1925 02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:11,440 Absolutely, you're welcome and you know when I think about it, 1926 02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:14,000 I said something if you don't understand something, you stand 1927 02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:19,400 under it and study to show myself a Workman that need not 1928 02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,720 be ashamed quietly divided by the word of truth. 1929 02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:26,960 So the problem with a lot of Christians is they're not even 1930 02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:29,480 studied to do even more Christianities. 1931 02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:32,400 Many Christians don't even know that the meaning of the word 1932 02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:37,320 Christian means Christ. Like when the purpose of 1933 02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:40,480 something is unknown, abuse is inevitable. 1934 02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:49,840 So you need to understand what you're practicing 100%. 1935 02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:54,320 Bro, I think there's immense beauty in, in the Christian 1936 02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:56,640 path, There's immense beauty in the Buddhist path. 1937 02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:59,640 And anyone that really dives into the truth of their 1938 02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:03,840 tradition will find truth. They'll find peace, They'll find 1939 02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:07,120 love within and without and above and below. 1940 02:05:07,640 --> 02:05:10,440 And I, I love what you said about understanding, bro, that 1941 02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:13,240 if you don't understand, you're, you're standing beneath, you're 1942 02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:16,920 standing under it. It makes me think because 1943 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:19,680 there's there's two paths for Buddhist practitioners, right? 1944 02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:24,640 You can go the monastic path and become a monk or a nun, or you 1945 02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:29,000 can go the lay lay path become just a secular practitioner. 1946 02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:33,080 And the Buddha said for the secular practitioner, there's 1947 02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:37,680 only one thing to focus on and that is all-encompassing 1948 02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:40,840 understanding. If you live with the intention 1949 02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:44,120 to understand all, you will attain enlightenment as a 1950 02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:49,040 secular practitioner. And brother, like if, if, if we 1951 02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:52,800 come into the conversation with our own ideas set, then there's 1952 02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,440 no point in having the conversation. 1953 02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:59,680 And if if we both come in with open minds and a willingness to 1954 02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:02,800 change and a willingness to understand, which is the 1955 02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:07,040 willingness to love, then we're already there then because there 1956 02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:11,960 is no like path to love. Love itself is the path. 1957 02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:16,640 There is no way to peace. Peace itself is the path, and 1958 02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:19,200 it's in every decision that we're choosing right now. 1959 02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:22,600 So choose. Choose it, don't chase it. 1960 02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:25,960 Absolutely. And you know, and that's what a 1961 02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:33,480 broke mindset is about, right? Deciding to learn, you know, so, 1962 02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:42,280 so for me, I love to learn. I love the pathway of being a 1963 02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:45,600 student for life. The day you know, there's a 1964 02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:50,520 proverb where I come from. It says the day we die is the 1965 02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:54,280 day we stopped learning. Oh, that's good, man. 1966 02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:57,840 The day we die the. Day we stopped learning. 1967 02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:02,760 I agree, and of course you. Know Speaking of learning, you 1968 02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,800 went from the school of Hard Knocks to the school of mentors, 1969 02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:07,640 right? Literally. 1970 02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:11,080 So what was the hardest season of your life and how did it 1971 02:07:11,080 --> 02:07:13,560 shape the person that you are today? 1972 02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:16,560 Oh. Man. 1973 02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:22,120 Man, we're getting deep, OK. The hardest season of my life 1974 02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:24,880 was was during COVID for sure. And. 1975 02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:32,840 Wuhan, Wuhan. So a lot of people don't know 1976 02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:34,080 this. I've only shared this with a few 1977 02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:37,320 people, but I'll, I'll share it here publicly for like kind of 1978 02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:38,880 the first time on your podcast, man. 1979 02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:45,560 I actually went to, I actually went to jail for five days and. 1980 02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:48,440 It was. It was an accident. 1981 02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:52,840 I had done something with a good intent, but I did it under the 1982 02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:56,800 influence of marijuana and the the outcome turned out bad. 1983 02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:00,960 So what what happened was it was like the middle of COVID. 1984 02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:04,560 I just had a fight with my mom and I went out with my buddy 1985 02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:08,840 Chris to go and and smoke some marijuana to try to relax a bit 1986 02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:11,640 and chill. And this was the time where I 1987 02:08:11,640 --> 02:08:16,080 had just seen a lot of like that Jeffrey Epstein stuff and like 1988 02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:20,560 child abuse and like, like, I had just dug into the child 1989 02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:23,480 trafficking issue globally. And it's, it's really 1990 02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:25,360 terrifying. It's really terrible. 1991 02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,320 And I was chilling with my friend at the park and we were 1992 02:08:29,320 --> 02:08:32,520 just meditating there, bro. Like, he drove his car. 1993 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:37,280 He took us with his car. And then I saw this, this mother 1994 02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:39,840 and her child walking into the park, man. 1995 02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:44,400 And the child was shirtless and I saw her take the child and 1996 02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:48,040 pose the child against the tree and start taking pictures of the 1997 02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:50,160 kid. And it just didn't look right to 1998 02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:50,640 me. Dude. 1999 02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:53,280 I don't know. Just this woman taking pictures 2000 02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:56,040 of a of a shirtless kid at the park. 2001 02:08:56,040 --> 02:08:59,280 I was like, what is going on? And my mind was kind of primed 2002 02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:00,720 with all that Epstein stuff, dude. 2003 02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:03,160 So I told my buddy, I'm like, dude, that doesn't look right. 2004 02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:04,840 I'm going to go check that out, make sure that kids. 2005 02:09:04,840 --> 02:09:08,640 OK. So I go over and I ask, hey, 2006 02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,440 excuse me, is this your child? And the mother says yes, it is. 2007 02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:14,760 But she shook her head no at me when she said it. 2008 02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:18,360 So she said yes, it is. And I was kind of confused. 2009 02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,000 So I looked at the kid. I'm like, excuse me? 2010 02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,960 Like, do you need any help? And I thought I saw him give me 2011 02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:26,720 a little bit of a nod. So I'm like, OK. 2012 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:28,760 Like, I don't know what's going on here. 2013 02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:34,320 Let me call the police. I called the police, bro 911. 2014 02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:37,120 I called it like, hey, I don't know what the situation is. 2015 02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:39,240 Like. There's a mom here with a kid, I 2016 02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:42,600 think, but like it looks could potentially be some child abuse. 2017 02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:44,040 Can you guys come and check it out? 2018 02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:49,880 And it might, it might have been like, you know, I was under the 2019 02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:52,640 influence of marijuana. Maybe I didn't sound completely 2020 02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:54,600 sober. But nobody came. 2021 02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,160 They didn't send anybody. I don't think they believed me. 2022 02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,520 And I was kind of, I talked to the police for like 6 to 9 2023 02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:03,200 minutes, bro. It's on their record. 2024 02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:08,520 And by this point, the mother and the child were leaving the 2025 02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:12,080 park and I was really worried for the kid and I was kind of 2026 02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:13,800 starting to panic. I'm like, what is going on? 2027 02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:15,760 Like, is this child abuse? Like what is happening? 2028 02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,880 Am I going to just let this happen in front of my eyes? 2029 02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:20,760 And I, I decided to spur the moment. 2030 02:10:21,080 --> 02:10:24,360 Instinct just kind of took over. And I ran over there and I tried 2031 02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:26,400 to get the kid away from her just to figure out the 2032 02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:30,440 situation. But in the States, if you move 2033 02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:34,320 anyone's kid from point A to point B without their express 2034 02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:37,600 permission, that's technically. Yes. 2035 02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:43,960 Exactly, bro. So just this whole situation 2036 02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:46,680 played out and I was arrested for kidnapping. 2037 02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:51,400 I, I, I moved the kid like, I don't know, like 10 feet. 2038 02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:56,160 And yeah. And it just like it was the, 2039 02:10:56,320 --> 02:11:01,040 the, IT was terrible because in that moment, I'd spent my entire 2040 02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,000 life trying to be a good person, you know? 2041 02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:05,480 And in that moment I was still trying to be a good person. 2042 02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:10,080 But I could see this, the movie of my life flipped from hero to 2043 02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:13,720 villain in that instant. And it broke my heart, bro. 2044 02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:19,800 And then went to jail, had crazy experiences in jail, like still 2045 02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:24,240 on marijuana. And I think from the shock of 2046 02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:27,920 the event that had just happened, my mind kind of just 2047 02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:30,200 lost it, dude. Like I was hallucinating. 2048 02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:35,680 I saw things on the walls and like it was, it was a terrifying 2049 02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:41,640 5 days in jail. But I did have a beautiful 2050 02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:46,480 moment of peace. My friend Cyrus, he had 2051 02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:49,680 introduced this concept of the God spot to me. 2052 02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:52,960 He was making a joke. He's like, yo, what's the G 2053 02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:54,800 spot? I was like, dude, what are you 2054 02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:57,440 talking about? And he said, dude, it's, it's, 2055 02:11:57,480 --> 02:11:59,600 it's actually not the, it's the God spot. 2056 02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:05,520 And in my hallucinations, bro, I saw this, this G on the ground 2057 02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:09,800 of my, of my jail cell and I decided to put my head on this 2058 02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:11,000 G. I'm like, oh, this is the God 2059 02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:12,200 spot. Let me just put my head on this 2060 02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:15,640 God spot. And when I did, dude, and I laid 2061 02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:20,480 down on it, bro, I felt just, I think I had an ego death 2062 02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:24,920 experience where I just completely let go of my idea of 2063 02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:29,160 who I was. And I was in amazing bliss just 2064 02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:33,360 feeling connected because I had set down the concept of myself 2065 02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:37,840 and I had fully believed in the complete immersion and unity 2066 02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:42,800 with God. And I found great peace in jail. 2067 02:12:43,120 --> 02:12:45,680 But then the aftermath of that were very difficult. 2068 02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:51,680 You know, I had to go through, I think it was a A2 year, like 2069 02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:54,320 probationary period because they saw my case. 2070 02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:56,320 They were like this guy tried to do something good. 2071 02:12:56,760 --> 02:12:59,840 The law is like the letter that it's iron. 2072 02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:02,920 We can't change it. But if you go through this 2073 02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:07,520 mental health recovery program, we can get this completely off 2074 02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:10,320 your record. And it's completely off my 2075 02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:12,400 record now. But hey, it's my story. 2076 02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:14,200 So I decided to share it here with you. 2077 02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:23,080 I'm not ashamed of it, but I I do believe now that one don't, 2078 02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:26,280 don't act under the influence, right? 2079 02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:29,640 And even. Even if there's good intention, 2080 02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:33,560 we have to execute at a very high level of skill or else it 2081 02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:35,760 can turn out bad. Even the most beautiful 2082 02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:39,600 intention can turn out poorly if there's no skill behind it. 2083 02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:44,280 And in that moment, yeah, it was. 2084 02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:47,120 It was a difficult call, man. It was a difficult call. 2085 02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:51,440 And I'm being very vulnerable right now, but I thought I'd 2086 02:13:51,440 --> 02:13:53,480 share it. And that was the most difficult 2087 02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:56,880 time of my life. But one beautiful thing that I 2088 02:13:56,880 --> 02:14:01,120 learned too was that we are protected by our good intent. 2089 02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:06,320 Even at the hardest times. I, I knew in my heart that I did 2090 02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:10,200 it with good intention and that that is what saved me. 2091 02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:14,720 You know, like just knowing that I acted with good intent. 2092 02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:19,280 And then that process also taught me patience. 2093 02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:22,640 You know, two years is a long time and patience. 2094 02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:25,480 Is a virtue. Patience is at a great virtue. 2095 02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:27,000 So I learned patience through that. 2096 02:14:27,600 --> 02:14:32,000 I learned compassion, I learned radical acceptance 'cause there 2097 02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:34,560 was a part of me that was still clinging to like, hey, like, I 2098 02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:37,040 know I'm right. I know what I saw, but hey, I 2099 02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:39,720 was under the influence, man, I'm, I'm not certain now. 2100 02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:44,320 Maybe I saw it incorrectly and, and it's, there's a high 2101 02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:46,440 probability that I saw it incorrectly. 2102 02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:50,880 So it's a hard lesson, but yeah, that was the hardest time of my 2103 02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:52,920 life. That was my rock bottom. 2104 02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:55,440 I had broken my shoulder in jail as well. 2105 02:14:57,280 --> 02:15:01,480 And I guess I'll just say I'm very glad I'm past it and I'm, 2106 02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:05,120 I'm grateful for the lessons. I wish it hadn't been as hard of 2107 02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:08,800 a knock as it was. But hey, man, we're we're past 2108 02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:11,920 it and that we made it through. So that's that. 2109 02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:16,040 It's a hard knock. Life, you know, you talked about 2110 02:15:16,040 --> 02:15:22,920 mental health recovery and this podcast stands firmly and 2111 02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:25,360 strongly on the side of mental health. 2112 02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:32,640 You know, our major sponsor is Better Health and Better Health 2113 02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:38,160 is the world's leading online therapy tool. 2114 02:15:38,920 --> 02:15:42,040 You know, they take mental health very seriously. 2115 02:15:42,040 --> 02:15:46,480 I'd love for you to speak on the importance of mental health and 2116 02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:52,800 the resources of tools like Better Health and help them with 2117 02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:57,040 mental health. Dude, mental health determines 2118 02:15:57,040 --> 02:16:00,480 everything. I mean, I think what happens in 2119 02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:05,960 our society is that if kids are too sheltered, that leads to 2120 02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:09,520 mental weakness. So there's mental weakness and 2121 02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:13,480 there's mental strength. And when those kids that are 2122 02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:17,400 mentally weak go out into society, they can't cope. 2123 02:16:17,600 --> 02:16:20,960 And then we diagnose it as mental health, mental illness 2124 02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:24,360 where it's actually mental weakness, I believe. 2125 02:16:25,120 --> 02:16:27,360 And if we see it as mental weakness, that's something that 2126 02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:31,600 we can actually work on. Of course, that it, it does go 2127 02:16:31,600 --> 02:16:33,760 into mental illness at a certain point. 2128 02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:41,280 But I, I, I do think that mental health is absolutely vital to 2129 02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:43,959 success, is vital to living a good life. 2130 02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:49,920 And when I was at my lowest, man, I just did one small action 2131 02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,120 every day to start building momentum. 2132 02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:55,559 I hit the treadmill every day. I, I just had to dude. 2133 02:16:55,719 --> 02:17:01,120 And that small win every single day started rebuilding my 2134 02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:02,840 confidence. It started rebuilding my 2135 02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:07,080 confidence. And because I had acted with 2136 02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:10,000 good intent, I could lean into that aspect of it as well and 2137 02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:13,840 just know that like, hey, like you're dealt a hard hand, but 2138 02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:18,040 you acted with good intent. So at least I know that you're 2139 02:17:18,040 --> 02:17:21,639 this kind of person that will do the right thing, that you 2140 02:17:21,639 --> 02:17:23,920 believe is the right thing under pressure. 2141 02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:27,200 But make sure I do it correctly next time and make sure that I'm 2142 02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:29,760 not under the influence. Make sure that I'm perceiving it 2143 02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:32,360 correctly. But at least I knew that I had 2144 02:17:32,360 --> 02:17:35,959 the courage to act. But brother, mental health is so 2145 02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:38,240 important. And I think mental health can be 2146 02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:42,080 diagnosed by the contents of our thoughts, by the way that we're 2147 02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:45,719 talking to ourselves, by our internal communication. 2148 02:17:46,799 --> 02:17:52,400 That's easily diagnosable. And what I learned is that I 2149 02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:55,959 don't think that we should label people. 2150 02:17:56,440 --> 02:18:00,320 I don't think that people should accept labels as identities 2151 02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:04,639 because once we accept something as our identity, the identity is 2152 02:18:04,639 --> 02:18:08,080 the most powerful manifestation concept that we have. 2153 02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:10,680 Who we think we are is what we attract. 2154 02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:13,360 Who we think we are is the lifestyle that we build. 2155 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:18,160 And if we accept an identity of I am depressed, I am a depressed 2156 02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:22,600 person like I'm an anxious person like that, It's it's 2157 02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:26,600 going to be very hard to climb out of that loop because once 2158 02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:30,840 you attach to an identity, this is my personal opinion, by the 2159 02:18:30,840 --> 02:18:33,000 way. But once I bought into an 2160 02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:36,120 identity that perpetuates that loop, that cycle. 2161 02:18:36,799 --> 02:18:40,120 Instead of doing that, I advocate for people going to the 2162 02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:42,600 gym. Get moving. 2163 02:18:43,040 --> 02:18:46,320 You have to change something. I believe that the feeling of 2164 02:18:46,320 --> 02:18:50,080 depression is evidence that you're not living the life that 2165 02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:52,879 you want to live. I don't think there's anything 2166 02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:56,480 wrong with people. I think all the emotions come up 2167 02:18:56,480 --> 02:19:00,240 for a reason, and I think depression is there to tell you 2168 02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:03,120 that, or it was there to tell me that, hey, I'm not living the 2169 02:19:03,120 --> 02:19:06,879 life that I want to live. Let me change something because 2170 02:19:06,879 --> 02:19:11,559 insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting 2171 02:19:11,559 --> 02:19:15,799 different results. Now I, I've created a, a 2172 02:19:15,799 --> 02:19:20,520 philosophy out of all of this, which is curation is the cure. 2173 02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:26,520 Curation is the cure. So a curator is the person in 2174 02:19:26,520 --> 02:19:29,879 the museum that gets to decide the art that gets to go into the 2175 02:19:29,879 --> 02:19:32,440 museum. So you curated your entire 2176 02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:34,799 background right there. You're the curator of your home 2177 02:19:35,559 --> 02:19:38,879 and we're all the curators of our, of our lives. 2178 02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:44,280 And if something is going wrong in our lives, it's because we've 2179 02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:48,480 curated something, we've allowed something in that is creating 2180 02:19:48,480 --> 02:19:53,120 that non optimal output, or we're missing something that we 2181 02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:56,240 need to have in order to be healthy. 2182 02:19:56,240 --> 02:19:58,360 So I believe humans need movement. 2183 02:19:58,840 --> 02:20:02,480 Movement is medicine and movement is what helped me climb 2184 02:20:02,480 --> 02:20:07,000 out of rock bottom. We need extreme ownership. 2185 02:20:07,440 --> 02:20:10,080 Shout out Jocko Wheeling. We need to take responsibility 2186 02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:12,920 for our own lives. Growing up, I was kind of 2187 02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:16,240 entitled, and there was a lot in my life that I wasn't used to 2188 02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:20,680 having responsibility for. So coming out of college and 2189 02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:23,760 having to be responsible for my own life, it was a tough 2190 02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:26,320 transition. So I always advocate for parents 2191 02:20:26,680 --> 02:20:29,240 giving more and more responsibility to their kids as 2192 02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:33,280 times as time goes, Even financial responsibility, give 2193 02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:36,320 that to your kids earlier so that they can feel the weight of 2194 02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:38,480 it and they can get accustomed to the weight of it. 2195 02:20:39,880 --> 02:20:45,000 But yeah, movements and we we need to remove every negative 2196 02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:48,400 thing that we're consuming. If you think about it, what is 2197 02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:50,480 the point of consuming negative news? 2198 02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:52,560 What's the point of consuming news? 2199 02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:56,480 I mean, like, there's a point in educating ourselves on how 2200 02:20:57,760 --> 02:21:00,200 global events are playing out, consuming. 2201 02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:05,120 Good. News, yes, but the negative news 2202 02:21:05,320 --> 02:21:08,640 that is portrayed and there's a lot of it, there's no point in 2203 02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:11,120 consuming it because one, it's already in the past. 2204 02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:16,240 You can't influence it. You have no influence over it. 2205 02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:19,360 So why are you giving it your time, attention and energy? 2206 02:21:19,760 --> 02:21:23,680 What we consume, it grows within us and it's what we will 2207 02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:26,240 produce. You know, as the seed is, so too 2208 02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:30,760 is the fruit. So remove the negative, add the 2209 02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:33,480 positive, keep the momentum going. 2210 02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:36,520 That's kind of the three steps. Remove all negative things, 2211 02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,760 curate out all negative things, negative self talk. 2212 02:21:39,760 --> 02:21:45,280 Stop doing that brain rot stuff. Stop consuming that negative 2213 02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:48,320 news. Stop consuming that crappy food. 2214 02:21:48,320 --> 02:21:54,240 Stop eating it crappy beverages. Stop it, you know, and then move 2215 02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:57,760 in the direction of health. Add all the positive add in 2216 02:21:58,120 --> 02:22:02,280 movement, add in exercise, add in millionaire and billionaire 2217 02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:05,920 consciousness. Add in the Kingdom's podcast. 2218 02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:10,560 Add in, you know, add in the diary of a CFO, dude, add 2219 02:22:10,880 --> 02:22:13,720 consume positivity and you will become positive. 2220 02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:17,400 We are what we eat, bro. And then there's certain ways to 2221 02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:22,520 keep the momentum going because momentum is created by reminding 2222 02:22:22,520 --> 02:22:24,120 ourselves that we're making progress. 2223 02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:26,560 I think so. I have all these mantras, which 2224 02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:30,600 is like every little bit counts, you know, every step is one step 2225 02:22:30,600 --> 02:22:33,920 closer. Gratitude is its own reward. 2226 02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:38,120 And the the attitude of gratitude will take you so far, 2227 02:22:38,120 --> 02:22:42,040 dude, because gratitude for the good attracts more of the good 2228 02:22:42,040 --> 02:22:45,000 back to us. Gratitude magnifies the good. 2229 02:22:45,560 --> 02:22:48,080 And I can prove it because if I'm grateful for this cup, 2230 02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:50,760 right, I cultivate gratitude for it. 2231 02:22:51,200 --> 02:22:55,040 I will take better care of the cup or the watermelon as we had 2232 02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:59,960 established, and I will attract, you know, I'll, I'll make sure 2233 02:22:59,960 --> 02:23:02,720 that it's in in good condition because I'm grateful for it. 2234 02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:07,720 That shows that will invest care into the upkeep of it. 2235 02:23:07,720 --> 02:23:10,800 If we're grateful for the money that we have, we'll care for 2236 02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:12,480 that money. We'll take care of that money. 2237 02:23:12,480 --> 02:23:15,640 We'll invest it wisely. So gratitude for the good 2238 02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:17,000 attracts more of the good to you. 2239 02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:21,280 And gratitude for the challenges immediately shifts you out of 2240 02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:24,400 victim mentality and into that growth mentality that we were 2241 02:23:24,400 --> 02:23:27,760 talking about. Hey, I just got out of jail. 2242 02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:31,280 What can I learn from this? You know, hey, I tried to do 2243 02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:33,360 something good. I tried to help this kid. 2244 02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:35,760 I misjudged it. What can I learn from it? 2245 02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:39,520 Well, bro, don't smoke marijuana if it's not, if it's going to 2246 02:23:39,520 --> 02:23:42,400 have those effects on you, you know, like, like just don't do 2247 02:23:42,400 --> 02:23:45,280 it. So gratitude, man. 2248 02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:47,560 It's, it's an invincible frame of mind. 2249 02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:51,360 And what I've seen out of Mullah with all of the millionaires and 2250 02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:54,840 billionaires that come to the school of mentors, they all have 2251 02:23:54,840 --> 02:24:00,040 invincible frames of mind that allows them to perceive life in 2252 02:24:00,040 --> 02:24:03,520 a way that is always beneficial to them no matter what the 2253 02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:06,280 situation is. And gratitude is one of those 2254 02:24:06,280 --> 02:24:10,560 invincible mindsets. You know, that's something I 2255 02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:12,680 always see on the podcast every time. 2256 02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:16,400 Gratitude is good attitude. And when a person shares the 2257 02:24:16,400 --> 02:24:17,960 time with you, they share their life with you. 2258 02:24:18,400 --> 02:24:21,400 Because inside, you know, for measuring life is time. 2259 02:24:21,800 --> 02:24:24,560 You know, I'm really, really grateful having you on the show 2260 02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:27,760 today. There's a lot we, you know, have 2261 02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:30,840 spoken about, and there's a lot we should speak about in part, 2262 02:24:30,840 --> 02:24:34,960 too. I know you have very limited 2263 02:24:34,960 --> 02:24:38,240 time today because it's Billionaires Day today, right on 2264 02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:41,000 School Adventures and you need to run pretty soon. 2265 02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:42,920 So I'll take you through the big fire ground. 2266 02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:48,480 And guys, expect the Part 2 and of course expect the three JS on 2267 02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:52,680 the podcast pretty soon that is Jack, Josh and King James. 2268 02:24:54,360 --> 02:24:59,920 So Are you ready to rumble? Yes. 2269 02:24:59,920 --> 02:25:01,360 Yes and yes. Let's go. 2270 02:25:02,800 --> 02:25:06,600 Okay okay, So what is 1 habit that has changed your life 2271 02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:08,440 forever? The. 2272 02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:11,880 Pasana meditation bro, that is the top habit. 2273 02:25:12,120 --> 02:25:16,400 The Pasana meditation translates to insight meditation. 2274 02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:19,800 They offer free retreats internationally. 2275 02:25:20,200 --> 02:25:23,320 Go to a Vipassa meditation. It will change your life. 2276 02:25:23,360 --> 02:25:27,000 It's one of the top skills that any human can acquire. 2277 02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:29,640 It will sharpen your mind. It will de stress you. 2278 02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:31,600 It will elevate your stress tolerance. 2279 02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:33,440 It will give you great self-awareness. 2280 02:25:33,880 --> 02:25:36,360 It'll help you understand yourself and understand the 2281 02:25:36,360 --> 02:25:38,320 nature of reality. It'll make you happy and 2282 02:25:38,320 --> 02:25:40,320 peaceful. Vipassana meditation. 2283 02:25:42,160 --> 02:25:44,440 Interesting. So what language do you want to 2284 02:25:44,440 --> 02:25:48,600 master next and why? Still, Mandarin Chinese, man, 2285 02:25:49,040 --> 02:25:52,680 because I realized manifest in your mother tongue, that's the 2286 02:25:52,680 --> 02:25:56,520 most powerful way to manifest. And my programming language for 2287 02:25:56,520 --> 02:25:59,280 the first six years of my life was Mandarin Chinese. 2288 02:25:59,640 --> 02:26:02,480 And when I use Mandarin Chinese, I feel more powerful. 2289 02:26:02,920 --> 02:26:06,480 I feel more rooted. I feel because it allows me to 2290 02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:11,080 connect with that sense of safety that that language gave 2291 02:26:11,080 --> 02:26:14,680 me because my caretakers from zero to 6 used it with me at 2292 02:26:14,680 --> 02:26:17,000 that pivotal age. So Mandarin Chinese. 2293 02:26:18,280 --> 02:26:22,160 Fantastic. What is one book everyone should 2294 02:26:22,280 --> 02:26:29,760 read before the 10:30? I'll give you 3 how to love by 2295 02:26:29,760 --> 02:26:32,800 Zen master tik not Han. It will teach you love in the 2296 02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:35,400 truest sense of the word. It'll help you love yourself and 2297 02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:38,040 love others. How to win friends and influence 2298 02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:40,080 people. It's the Bible on communication. 2299 02:26:40,080 --> 02:26:42,120 Dale Kanegy. Dale Kanegy. 2300 02:26:42,120 --> 02:26:44,080 That was the first book I ever bought in my life. 2301 02:26:44,760 --> 02:26:46,280 Let's go. Brother, hey, we're, we're 2302 02:26:46,280 --> 02:26:48,600 connected on that. So how to win friends and 2303 02:26:48,600 --> 02:26:51,120 influence people. It will take you so far because 2304 02:26:51,120 --> 02:26:53,680 people will take you places that money cannot. 2305 02:26:54,200 --> 02:26:56,560 People will take you places that money cannot. 2306 02:26:57,160 --> 02:27:00,240 Third book Mastery by Robert Greene. 2307 02:27:00,880 --> 02:27:06,280 Think with the goal of mastery and you will become the top 1%. 2308 02:27:06,400 --> 02:27:10,280 You will be able to achieve your potential and you'll be able to 2309 02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:14,000 move mountains Because Robert Greene says once you've attained 2310 02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:17,640 mastery in one specific discipline, the entire world 2311 02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:20,000 opens up to you. And we've seen it happen again 2312 02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:23,200 and again and again. So Mastery by Robert Greene is 2313 02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:28,760 my third recommendation. So what do you think is the most 2314 02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:32,080 underrated life skill? Most underrated? 2315 02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:37,400 Life skill. Most. 2316 02:27:37,560 --> 02:27:42,640 Underrated life skill, the ability to rest. 2317 02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:46,880 So a lot of people, they don't know how to rest. 2318 02:27:47,640 --> 02:27:49,480 They literally don't know how to stop. 2319 02:27:49,640 --> 02:27:54,000 Like people think that watching the TV is resting, but no, it 2320 02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:57,760 takes processing power still in your brain to actually watch and 2321 02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:00,800 process the TV show. That's still stress that you're 2322 02:28:00,800 --> 02:28:03,400 taking on. The most underrated skill is 2323 02:28:03,400 --> 02:28:06,480 resting. Go to a park, lay on your bed, 2324 02:28:07,360 --> 02:28:10,960 don't go on your phone, just lay down there and be with yourself, 2325 02:28:11,480 --> 02:28:15,520 be in your body. The body's always, the body is 2326 02:28:16,040 --> 02:28:19,080 it always wants to heal you. It always wants to heal. 2327 02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:23,760 And with every breath that we take, it's always rejuvenating. 2328 02:28:23,880 --> 02:28:28,960 And if we can learn to rest and stop and relax without consuming 2329 02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:33,040 24/7, man, like everybody's going to be so much happier, so 2330 02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:36,080 much more peaceful. So resting is the number one 2331 02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:39,960 most underrated skill. Rest and recovery very, very, 2332 02:28:39,960 --> 02:28:43,320 very important. I think athletes actually do 2333 02:28:43,320 --> 02:28:46,920 understand that, that every first they have to perform with 2334 02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:49,880 the body. So if you could give your 2335 02:28:49,880 --> 02:28:54,720 younger self one sentence of advice about, what would it be? 2336 02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:11,320 Let go of that which no longer serves you and know that what 2337 02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:15,440 once served you might not serve you right now and might not 2338 02:29:15,440 --> 02:29:20,480 serve your highest self. I carry things and I used, I 2339 02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:24,040 used to carry things so much. I was that junior monk man. 2340 02:29:24,040 --> 02:29:26,760 I wasn't the senior monk, bro. I didn't set the woman down at 2341 02:29:26,760 --> 02:29:30,400 the river. And one of my bad habits in the 2342 02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:32,240 past was holding on to things too long. 2343 02:29:32,480 --> 02:29:33,760 And it's something that I'm working on. 2344 02:29:34,440 --> 02:29:38,360 And with everything that I'm able to let go of, I'm more 2345 02:29:38,360 --> 02:29:41,640 free, I'm more happy, I'm more peaceful. 2346 02:29:42,240 --> 02:29:46,360 So what I would say to myself is, man, if it's past, if it's 2347 02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:49,600 in the past, just let it go. If you can make it right, make 2348 02:29:49,600 --> 02:29:52,680 it right. If you can't, or if there's no 2349 02:29:52,680 --> 02:29:58,160 need to, let it go. And where attention goes, energy 2350 02:29:58,160 --> 02:30:02,040 flows and reality grows. So focus your energy on what you 2351 02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:04,840 want to grow, not on what you don't. 2352 02:30:06,560 --> 02:30:09,960 That's that's what I'd say. I think that's powerful. 2353 02:30:10,920 --> 02:30:13,160 Reminds me of a private conversation that's happened 2354 02:30:13,200 --> 02:30:16,400 with my Co host and Co founder a couple of days ago. 2355 02:30:16,840 --> 02:30:20,640 And he said I don't want to grow older and not grow wiser. 2356 02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:24,240 That will be a very, very big shame. 2357 02:30:24,320 --> 02:30:29,040 And you know, one thing I've learned this year as I grow 2358 02:30:29,040 --> 02:30:34,120 older and grow wiser is the importance of letting go and 2359 02:30:34,120 --> 02:30:38,920 letting God let go and let God add a deal. 2360 02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:42,920 That's powerful. Man, that's that faith, right? 2361 02:30:42,960 --> 02:30:48,080 That's that trust. And I think when I'm able to let 2362 02:30:48,080 --> 02:30:51,800 go of because for me, the, the Buddhist practice, what I'm 2363 02:30:51,800 --> 02:30:54,520 working on right now is letting go of my attachment to all 2364 02:30:54,520 --> 02:30:59,200 language and all the concepts that we cling to because we had 2365 02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:01,760 already established that language there. 2366 02:31:01,760 --> 02:31:05,480 It's, it's all just the sounds, right, that we've conditioned 2367 02:31:05,480 --> 02:31:08,960 the response. So for me, I'm, I'm learning to 2368 02:31:08,960 --> 02:31:15,120 let go. And I think trusting what comes 2369 02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:19,160 intuitively without strategizing, trusting and 2370 02:31:19,160 --> 02:31:23,000 leaning into that faith is the letting God aspect of what I'm 2371 02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:26,040 working on right now, dude. So I appreciate that. 2372 02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:28,440 And I know James loves that too. Let go and let God. 2373 02:31:29,240 --> 02:31:32,480 Oh wow, really interested in great minds thinking like wow. 2374 02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:35,360 So thank you very much once again. 2375 02:31:35,720 --> 02:31:38,960 And of course, the audience always go for something in your 2376 02:31:38,960 --> 02:31:44,880 lives, conceive, believe, start to thrive and of course, achieve 2377 02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:49,520 say it will come your way next. It's love and respect. 2378 02:31:50,720 --> 02:31:54,360 And of course, a very, very big thank you to you and your fan. 2379 02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:57,560 Wow. See you in Part 2. 2380 02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:01,560 Let. Go of that which no longer 2381 02:32:01,560 --> 02:32:05,080 serves you and know that what once served you might not serve 2382 02:32:05,080 --> 02:32:07,960 you right now and might not serve your highest self. 2383 02:32:08,040 --> 02:32:11,520 I carry things and I use. I used to carry things so much. 2384 02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:14,400 I was that junior monk man. I wasn't the senior monk, bro. 2385 02:32:14,400 --> 02:32:16,320 I didn't set the woman down at the river. 2386 02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:19,280 And one of my bad habits in the past was holding on to things 2387 02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:20,800 too long. And it's something that I'm 2388 02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:22,720 working on. And with everything that I'm 2389 02:32:22,720 --> 02:32:26,400 able to let go of, I'm more free, I'm more happy, got more 2390 02:32:26,400 --> 02:32:29,200 peaceful. So what I would say to myself is 2391 02:32:29,200 --> 02:32:31,520 if it's past, if it's in the past, just let it go. 2392 02:32:31,680 --> 02:32:33,480 If you can make it right, make it right. 2393 02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:36,760 If you can't or if there's no need to, let it go. 2394 02:32:36,760 --> 02:32:40,360 Where attention goes, energy flows and reality grows. 2395 02:32:40,360 --> 02:32:44,520 So focus your energy on what you want to grow, not on what you 2396 02:32:44,520 --> 02:32:47,600 don't. That's that's what I'd say 2397 02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:49,760 looking for. 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