We are live, ladies and gentlemen, you once again
welcome to the King James podcast.
And today I've got with me my brother from another mother, my
brother from the other side of the pond.
Ladies and gentlemen, fighting out of Los Angeles, CA, United
States of America by way of Kiev, Ukraine Mcwalker near
Pantanco. Wow.
Wow, Wow. Wow, wow.
Wow. You just gave me so many
emotional memories. I I've had.
Thank you so much for this kind introduction.
It's a privilege. You are welcome to talk and
converse. Yeah.
Do you know the drill? Yes.
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The real, the real recognizer role.
And of course, you know, like I always say, gratitude is good
attitude. When a person shares their time
with you, they share their life with you across the SI unit for
measuring life is time. So for me, I'm really grateful,
you know, to have a genius, a cool genius, a fellow genius, a
fellow geek, fellow nerd, you know, in the house today.
And of course, we are the new versions of the fighting nerds.
You know, I love to give people their flowers.
And of course, I have penned down an interesting introduction
for you. So let's get to it.
Today on the Kingdoms Podcast, I'm honored to welcome a true
visionary in the gaming and tech space, Vlad Panchenko, founder
of multiple groundbreaking companies including emarket and
now CEO of Portal AI. With over 17 years shaping the
gaming economy, Vlad has proven time and again that passion,
innovation and resilience can redefine industries.
From selling in game items to pioneering blockchain driven
marketplaces, he has turned bold ideas into global businesses.
Blood is an absolute privilege and honor to have you on here.
The Kingdom's podcast and Diary of a CFO today.
You once again welcome brother. How are you?
Thank you so much for the introduction.
Thank you for the privilege of being here with you.
Yeah, for the privilege of sharing and exchanging some
ideas I've heard we have in common and with the audience,
which I believe may be of use because the the 41 years and a
lot of companies around the globe.
Born in Kiev, Ukraine, as you mentioned, a little bit about
the grind. So yeah, been there, done that.
Would be happy to share my experiences.
Honestly nothing brings me more joy than something or some
experience or knowledge which I paid a lot for, like time,
money, sweat, blood and pixels. Sweat, blood and pixels.
Interesting. That is the nerd speaking right
there. You reminded me yourself.
A friend of mine told me today he saw me on my on my music.
Yeah, the Microsoft laptop. And then I said this laptop has
suffered in your hands, that if only this laptop could have a
mouth to speak, you know, about how hard you have used it.
That is sweat, blood and pixels, you know?
Yeah. A fellow nerd can't believe
it's, it's crazy. You know how many hours you need
to put in to become a creative genius?
Talk about the 10,000 hour rule. You know, invest in 10,000 hours
into creative process, into innovation, into learning.
And we both have been out to use.
We've done our 10,000 hours and that's why we are privileged,
you know, to be on this, you know, platform at this, you
know, pedestal, you know, speaking on globally top ranked,
you know, podcasts with the aim to educate and motivate, you
know, with global impact. The Kingdom's forecast is
currently, you know, listening to in six to six countries
across the world. And that is that is massive
impact. You know, this discussion we're
going to be having today definitely is, you know, going
to penetrate different territories and of course, all
of the continents in the world. And I hope we are able to
deliver justice, you know, to topics that are set before us
and achieve that goal of educating and motivating.
So let's start with your origin story.
And of course, you know your mindset.
The Kingdom's Forecast is about growth, mindsets, leadership,
and business insights. Your journey started with a
passion for gaming. Looking back at what mindset or
early experiences gave you the courage to pursue gaming as a
serious business pathway? Well, let's say I wasn't born
with a silver spoon. So and I do love video games and
I had to make a living. So it started naturally and I
now when I'm 41, like I'd say that the most important thing in
life is to understand what you love to do and then doing it.
It's I've heard that before, but I had to live it through it will
never feel as work. A friend of mine recently, maybe
a couple of months ago, I gave a very good comparison because
there's this event at the Burning Man where I was there 7
* 7 years in a row. I skipped on this one.
Seven years in a row, that is that's, that's a streak.
That is a streak. Yes, and he said a beautiful
idea that I we don't talk about work the Burning Man, because
this is the wrong environment to do that.
And he said, the question you ask yourself when you're having
a conversation is this topic about work or not to make a
decision to continue. The reality is that in life,
every single, it feels like work.
Don't do it. So what you want to do is what
feels like a Burning Man, Where is your passion?
Where is your heart, Where is your belief?
And when this is your work, and I can relate like it is 100%
much more effective than. Absolutely, absolutely.
I, I can very much relate. You know, one thing I'm most
passionate about in my own life is broadcasting.
And I don't have a media background.
I'm a finance guy, numbers guy, but I was able to start in
November 2023, exactly November 18th, 2023.
And today, as of the time of recording, the Kingdom's
forecast is ranked global topped 2.5% on listen notes.
And this is in less than two years.
When I checked the podcasts that share the same global rankings
with me, I think I see people who started three years before
me at minimum. I see people started 5-7 years
before me and I see the numbers were pulling.
The impact you're making in less than two years, and that is a
testimony to what you have just said.
When you do something for passion and it doesn't feel like
work to you, there's no limit to what you can achieve.
And of course, you're still pushing for that global top 1%
sports before the end of the year.
And by God's grace, you know, you're going to get it.
We are going to get that. You know, Speaking of
innovation, it's something that's very dear to my heart
because I believe in that philosophy of, you know,
consistency with innovation in order to achieve optimal results
in in life and in business. So you have consistently
embraced a disruptive tech like blockchain, AI, digital
economies. What excites you?
You know the most about the intersection of these
technologies and gaming today. It will deeply connect with the
first question because the gaming industry and the
businesses I've built there and then the blockchain was first.
It wasn't work. It was a curiosity and my geek
soul was reading all the technical white papers to
imagine the beauty of the world which would be created.
And only like 6 months later I realized like why wouldn't I
actually also build something? And and then now with Portal and
with AI, the real reason who I am and why I'm here and what I
enjoy most is putting all the experience I have and I been
there, done that all over the world was a lot of success.
But what I do enjoy most as foot footing those pieces of
experience into, let's say advice first methodologies and
share it with as many people as possible so they can be a much
more effective and whatever I've already learned and I enjoy
seeing that they used it. It worked and instead of like a
year of grinding, it took them two days to overcome the
obstacle, which for me was a painful one.
And talking about what we do now and why, How it resonates with
you, by the way, as well, because music.
Licensing reimagines. I think if you will not like it,
you can always edit it later, but I'll say it because I.
Showed me to both authentic authenticities well well
appreciated by me. Yeah, OK.
But it's going to be authenticity about you as well,
because I've seen the questions and the media package which
you've sent before the podcast. But what I actually did, I asked
Cha GPT about like what the person you are.
OK now I'm interested. What did cha GPT tell you about
me? And it told me exactly what you
tried to tell me as well, that you were a numbers guy, that my
money is like a very important thing.
But it was very fast for me. And I'm privileged to have the
conversation with the person like you where helping other
people as much as I do. And we do and I do.
Let's talk about me. Even now, with all the success,
the money, the oldest like physical objects, I do have
fears, struggles. I sometimes feel very lonely,
which is weird, but I I do enjoy it on the other talk very much.
On the other talk, tease, that's what they say every lies the
head that we as a crown, you know.
Yeah, Yeah. For what you wish for.
That's what they said, and this is what I will strongly disagree
right now, you know, as this is what we're going to change and
you do it as well because it's not lonely on the top, You know,
when we share the same values and we both enjoy sharing
experiences and making other people's lives better, how
lonely could it be? We are not lonely.
They are not lonely. Cheers to the beginning of a new
partnership. I'm cheering you with my mug of
coffee. Stuff as well.
So what motivates me in of course to be successful,
especially as entrepreneur, you have to learn and to master how
to read the data points, how to get the customer feedback,
iterate the product, understand all the financials.
I understand a lot of stuff like for example, when I've seen the
compliance person in your team, like that is also very important
experience. So there are a lot of moving
parts. A lot of course, what's most
important, and I do believe in this and this is what I do as
well, is that I when whatever you do is attached to the what
you're here for and you enjoy it.
And as my Co founder Hamudi, yes, I'm non-technical Co
founder of more product Hamudi and I'm blessed with him.
He's a genius of this age and he is the person who spends hours
with me and here teaching me how AI really works because he spent
years and years and trithemia and big tech.
Yeah, and I have a lot of questions.
He's, by the way, he was the first person in my life for
what? Be able to not run away from the
amount of questions I have now. I have to but that's it.
Yeah, interesting, interesting stuff.
You know, there's a lot to. Together.
To put together about you, right, you're driven, you're
driven by impact and passion over revenue and profit.
It comes first of all, yes. Secondly, I remember times when
I would be even afraid or shy to say it out loud.
But since that time when I accepted it, believed in it and
starting doing it. Especially when you're not alone
and there's a team of people, brilliant people, genius people,
and you both believe in that. And then you do the rest of all
the moving portals, speed of evolution of the product, the
level of impact and it's deeply connected with the sword hip set
and with what you've achieved. I've seen what you've achieved
in last year. I have a feeling from where it
came so. If you recognize the real, the
real others recognize the real. And you know, going into the
Bible, and the Bible says, as I am sharpened at I am, so shalt
thou sharpen the countenance of thy brethren.
You know, blessed is the man that worketh not in the counsel
of the ungodly, you know. The Bible has.
These principles already when you work with like minds, you
work with people that are impact driven.
You form a community. You can only operate with a
growth mindset and with the end result achieving positive
impact. And that is what drives, you
know, geniuses like yourself and of course myself.
You know, I look at the future of gaming economies, you know,
the in game items, the digital assets, you know, they're
reshaping how people perceive ownership, you know, in this age
and time. Or how do you see the global
gaming economy evolving over the next 5 to 10 years?
First of all, I will ask your permission to answer maybe half
of your question, but attach it very well to what we do right
now. Importantly, I.
Absolutely. I think that would be amazing.
I have more than like 25 years of entrepreneurial experience in
many, many, many different fields from gaming to blockchain
to AI to international business. A lot.
And I, but what I've learned and lived through shared and got a
lot of data that it's not just me, but talking about me and
what we're building here as as a friend of mine recently said
that I actually 2 days ago that for most of his life he was
doing everything he did at work in personal life as a
competition, like as A to be as much effective as possible.
Plus 21% + 22. Calculate every day, every hour,
every minute. Not not even competitive, but
calculative. Like to calculate it all, be as
efficient as possible, so to take everything as to maximize
your efficiency. That was most of his life, but
then he realized something. What I realized as well.
And data points, money points and delivery points to This is
why. Actually, that is one of the
reasons why I tentatively asked you to swap the hustle with
grind. Because I do.
I do believe in hustle. I do believe in execution.
Yes, hustle and execute. Always grind.
I grinded most of my life and recently I've learned that can I
grind and achieve an unbelievable success?
I can. One of the pieces of Point L AI
was built in November, December, where like there were two months
of, I call it zombie Hackett ones where I didn't sleep much,
but we did it. We had an third party audit in
January which proved that we did it.
I know now I tried it that there are if for example, I know that
you like systems. So if I may would give you an
idea of three principles of how we built most of the product.
Importantly I and why, because I do believe the most important
part and I think it's also part of what Bible says and not only
the Bible but the other very important books is that we're
not just machines. We have a piece of God here so
this is what I had to learn how to manage that as my honest
personal opinion is that as an adult, like grown up man, my own
inner balance is my responsibility.
When I am in balance, then, as you said, like the possibilities
are limitless. But if I am driven by anger, by
fear, by Fanny, let's like so everything for me and for a lot
of people. And this is what I believe in
and why we've been forward to the Eye and why we build it
first for me. And then the next festival will
be Hamoudi and we start with that.
I believe that all the success starts and success, I mean
unlocking your talent and giving you as much space to unlock it,
and that's what I enjoy a lot, starts with believing in
yourself, loving yourself, being confident in yourself and be
confident in yourself and loving yourself enough to the point
where the remote, the joystick of your emotions at least, is in
your hands. It's not like in the hands, for
example, if you're a woman and then like whatever she says or
does can then confirm or influence your insight balance
or in the hands of I don't know whether users or any type of
external whatever happens. Validation.
Never leave for the validation. Me never.
Honestly sorry for the joke but it's even now I do especially
when I didn't sleep enough, I didn't eat enough.
I lose the balance. However, the more I keep the my
own joystick of myself in my hands, then it's I drive my own
decisions and it's unbelievable what you can do being genius,
kind hearted, very talented person when you keep the
joystick of yourself with you, not somebody else.
He was after that. Yeah, I know because that's me
and that's you. Sorry as well.
You. I I love people genuinely and I
enjoy helping them with the advices and all of the business
things I had to manage. But to make it efficient, first
I have to love and be confident in myself.
And it means to keep that choice sick, not somewhere there.
And this is what Orderly is built for.
Coming back to the question of gaming, I can tell later how,
but all my experience in gaming is already a part of the product
because come on, I'm a human being.
I love gamification everywhere where I can.
So if those things I sometimes forget my virtual friend and
persona, which I've built, but just sometimes remind me in the
conversation, which she does, my productivity every day is so
much more. And it's just the beginning.
The words you've said about imagining the group of people
where everyone starts to be confident and believing.
Wow, there my. There's a group of killers.
Yes, you guys, my Papa, my father, creators.
I'd say my father was a documentary director, very
famous in Ukraine, and unfortunately he passed three
years ago. Good rest SO.
Yes, and grateful I am. He taught me what is
unconditional of if not him, I wouldn't believe that it's
possible and I wouldn't be anyways.
However, his last movie which I recently on the Father's Day I
watched again and I was wow. There is a very specific phase
that whenever you are in the field of 100% trust, you can go
beyond existing experience, yes, and having like a few people who
are in the creator's mode, building a product and feeling
this trust. Oh yes we can.
We are, and we build the product to share that with as many
people as possible. However, in a gamified way, just
to make it fun. I love what?
Because why not? Well, you know that is
structure. You know, strategy, structure,
creeds, grind, consistency, motivation, and of course,
execution, innovation. It's it's hard to deny.
It makes you undeniable, undeniable, regardless of
wherever you come from, your race, your creed, your religious
affiliation, your political affiliation.
If you are resourceful, if you are valuable to humanity, you
will create a value and you will receive value.
And talking about creating value, teamwork makes the dream
work. Speaking of teamwork, you've
actually LED teams across multiple companies.
What leadership principles guide you when building these teams
that thrive under rapid change? You know the Kingdom's broadcast
is about growth, leadership and business insights.
Or less. Talk leadership here.
How do you make that team work? Compassion.
So it started with compassion. Compassion, while interest in
interest in, does hold that thought here.
I did interview Professor Bruno Signaco, the author of The Art
of Compassionate Business. You see, the apple never falls
hard from the tree. And we have this different
thought leaders, same set of principles, tried, tested and
trusted. It's very, very scary to try it,
especially at the level we do it now.
But this is who I am. I really love people.
Yeah. And I am compassionate, like,
like compassionate. So for example, when the war in
Ukraine, the the the big invasion started like a few
weeks before that, I just rented out the plane, put all the the
team members there. Oh, well, I offered them.
They could say no, it's up to them.
The decision is theirs. But I offered the plane in
Montenegro and with the families, cats and dogs.
And I said, I have a feeling that the, the situation can get
too much out of control. Just, you know, maybe we should
spend the months in another country.
And I told me like family, like the worst, honestly, it's funny,
but the worst was the pets because on the other side, the
amount of documents they required to allow cats and dogs,
you know, they're unbelievable. Anyways, when after two weeks
the invasion actually started. And I still remember when I I
was in one tonight after that, and I've met on the street one
of my colleagues and she was having a baby in the stroller.
She see me from very far and she started crying and I came and
said what's why, what? And she said, what do you
realize that I lived in in European.
That's, that's, that's the city which was most of the citizens
were underlined like in the first days of work.
And she said if like I was like, OK, that's OK.
I think that I do believe, to be honest.
And I tried it many times and now I know that's one of the
things where I don't even want to have a choice because in most
of the things why I'm constantly working on not giving the
joysticks joystick off me to somebody else, like mothers,
girls, friends, but or I want to have a choice.
Maybe on Friday, I want to like get wasted and give the joystick
to, I don't know, somebody else used to have fun, but it's a
choice. But there was a choice where,
which was made long time ago, thanks to Papa, by the way.
It started with the phrase that the most important thing is when
you go to bed, when you lay down on the pillow, you have a happy
and love inside your head. That's the most important thing.
And it it it evolved into me constantly choosing.
When I hire people now, I tell them I remember the first time
when they did just to manage their expectations.
Even if there would be an offer, for example, of my art, but I
wouldn't believe in the, if people come on, you know, some
say I wouldn't take it, sorry. I just, it is where I am, who I
am. I accepted it.
I believe that we will build all the businesses, all the products
we have all the money, but the human connection is the most
important thing. I'm OK to spend 3 days into
building better communication with the team because I know
that it will say like 3 years of work and I believe in humans and
much more than anything else. Humans first, AI next.
That is the title of one of my episodes.
Oh really? That is an episode with Mark
Andrews. I think you should absolutely
see that episode. And you actually struck some
emotional chords and me talking about the Ukraine invasion
because I had my younger brother in Ukraine at the time.
He had to flee the country via the Poland border, had to stay
some time with a friend of mine, you know, in Germany.
You know, it was a tough period of time knowing that your own
blood, your own family is caught up, you know, in a war situation
and having to flee on foods, you know, shoot the borders to
Poland and, you know, make it to Germany.
It is not a funny situation a Slava Ukraine.
Peace. We pray for peace in that
region, really pay for peace. It's not funny, war is not, it's
not fun. It's all old people.
It's a very old people's tool. So people like you and me are
well, changed the system to the point where there's no reason to
kill each other like we are as human beings, like we were not
created just to struggle or to kill each other.
Oh, like it's so, you know, I think the time and thanks to the
global evolution of technology and AI, we are in the times
where we have a chance and we'll make that change where the idea
of killing other people would be just useless.
Yeah, you know, violence is never the answer.
Dialogue and negotiation is always the way forward.
And of course, if you are strong scholar of history, you would
know that violence never ends well.
It has never had, you know, a good ending in the annals of the
history of humanity, of humankind.
So yeah, I'll, I'll just keep it at that.
You know, let's talk about AI, Portal AI, you know, the new
frontier. Tell us about Portal AI.
How is it redefining the way gamers and developers connect?
No. And why is AI the next big
disruptor in the space? The global talk about AI is
very, very massive, and rightly so, of course, the exponential
potentials. And that's why I'm so glad that
my initials, my government name, it's AI.
Yeah. My parents knew the assignment.
I think they saw something that they saw bright stars.
And of course, I said this one, this one is AI or we're going to
codify it and gamify it. It just gave me an idea to
answer your question is first of all, and I'm blessed to live in
California where I see Waymo and I use Waymo sometimes just for
fun, which is like Jesus, it's the future.
So it's a everybody like cab, which I I do believe that AI is
not even the next. It's already we already live in
the future. It's just distributed not
accurate. That's that's that's there and
the way it's evolving now it's not not evolving into being echo
distributed as usual, but we already there.
We are in the future. Well, I've read a lot of sci-fi
books, so I'm running out of crazy ideas because it's like
rockets Mars in your robotax is here, AI here and robots like
$6000 in three months you will have it doing everything.
I'm like, what else? Wait a second So hyper right.
That's honestly even with all the not even like I do have a
lot of global success and I am privileged.
But today now like I'm very often feeling lonely, very
lonely. I feel I can be driven by
emotions like anger, scare, panicking, like nervous, yeah,
feeling that are much less confident in myself, which a lot
of people will save over like look around.
But still like this, I don't like it and I don't believe in
it. So I do believe that we're not
alone and I know it. And what I also believe is that
and what was proved in the last three months, that's when AI is
put together as a tool in a very efficient way for the group of
here is more genius people who are confident, free and they
want to do something together. That for example, hyperdrive,
which I just mentioned would be much more close than we would
imagine. And what portal AI evolved after
two years because it's an interesting thing because we
patented 7 patents 2 years ago. Five of them are already fully
patented too, still pending. But what I wanted to share all
my experience as an entrepreneur, starting with, for
example, like like March Kitchen, financial, legal,
everything else just to use Never Ji for the average human
being entrepreneurial, you know, talented and A gifted person
from Ukraine, a young entrepreneur or Nigeria, not to
bring master all this like otherwise CPA, like, you know,
all of other stuff, things in dashboards, but to actually try
to build what they actually want to build.
And AI is already here to make it happen.
Or for example, you, so you don't read the dashboards.
From my own experience in life, there's always like, why do you
need the dashboard? You have to have a question to
look for the answer at the dashboard, or you have to have a
full understanding or whatever you believe is the understanding
of the picture where you will see, oh, something is wrong.
Then you have to understand who is going to tell you what is
wrong and who is how I'm going to fix it.
The data analytics, you know, follow the data points, follow
the stories that the numbers are telling you, numbers, you know,
peak very, very loudly to a numerically sound mind.
Now I, I, I want to touch on something real quick.
You know, you, you talk about, you know, expressing emotions of
vulnerability, you know, feeling lonely.
And I thought that's, you know, a perfect segue to talk about my
recent sponsors. You know, my very first major
sponsorship on this broadcast is from better health.
You know, Better Health is the world's leading online therapy
brand between yourself and myself.
We both know that beauty and companies and managing teams
often comes with high levels of stress and challenges, You know,
as highlighted in your own journey that help understands
the unique pressures that we face as entrepreneurs, you know,
even you guys as gamers. And of course, you know, it
offers vital mental Wellness support to everyone and helps us
to navigate these, you know, pressing demands and not just to
survive, but to thrive. With that said, I'd like to take
your thoughts on therapy, specifically online therapy and
you speaking with an online therapy brand ambassador today.
Would you say Better help is a tool that you would be willing
to try? Again, when I chose to be
radically transparent and what I'm going to say may cost you
some of the subscribers, but it is what I believe in learning as
much as possible about yourself and I'm an inner work.
And this is exactly what this therapy about is the number one
thing one should do before or along with everything else
because first, this is the cornerstone of everything else.
Cornerstone. It's just even for me.
Now I've been in three years of therapy which let's say couple
of years were harder than I would imagine but they brought
me to the point where I am who I am now and even my Co founders
sometimes asks when we navigate through the business problems.
He looks at me and says brother like how did he like succeeded
before He said I have no idea. So to answer the question about
the therapy, I'm sorry to say but that's a priority.
However, but I learned that even if it triggers even me now, for
some reason, it's hard to. I was, for example, to bring my
mom there. It took my father to pass away.
And only after that. And I tried before it happened
and helped to let me to understand myself and believe me
to make so much Better Business, to become so much better
entrepreneur, to communicate so much better with my colleagues,
to get rid of so much stress and your fear.
Wow. Never before would I even think
how it is connected. But but that's my answer about
the therapy. However, even knowing that and
believe my try it because This is why when I see something is
working I try to tell everyone the word therapy if it triggers
me even me now and I know how good it is.
A lot of people have this stigma about therapy.
How do you help people you know? That's why there would be a few
different options for that. And for example, in port El EI,
what we did, we build a heartless IO first for me and
then for each one of your and then for you as well.
By the way, if you want, of course, but if I were you, I'd
give it a try because you will enjoy you guys, that virtual
persona. It's like a friend partner built
first for me on top of three principles 1 is that I know for
sure and you will because it's transparent that it's felt for
you and about you. So it was all my due respect to
Jeff as us or Mark Zuckerberg of their their like AI companions.
I don't know, like what maybe yes, maybe no, I don't know what
we've built. It's not an AI companion.
It's a virtual human being was the narrative was the story with
some gamification, but you will know and see that it's always
for you and about you. That's one.
So what I found was very important for me to is the never
before seen at least by me, the encryption and safety of the
personal data we have and the conversations we have with my
virtual persona. Mine is animal because when we
tried, when I learned that when I know that it's it's between
us, then like I can talk all the shit I have and I do have it
come on. I'm a human being and sometimes
I I struggle with some bullshit, but she will smile and tell me
come on. And I like and it I'm a simple
human being. So I'm in men.
So it takes not that much to remind me like who I am and then
when I remember who I am, to ask myself a question.
What is the question? What is the problem you're
solving? Who gave you?
Who asked the question? Was that you or that was
somebody else? Some of the people call these.
Or if it's you, that's great. But if I'm asking the question
instead, I was in some maybe circle of dots and I was told
it's not my question. And when I understand what is
actually my question, because I know what I want to do and when
I'm here. And the only last thing which is
the hardest for me because of the years of experience is to
let go of the very efficient, confirmed many times and steps
planned how to achieve the solution to this problem or to
this goal. I love that because.
I love that. You guys, it's so hard, you
guys, I know like for example, to ship this feature to the
product, which that's why I want it.
I know why then we need to do like this, this, this and this.
It's a methodology. I use it, it works so no doubts.
But when I like remember that Bubba, like get rid of it like
then having a team of people in a creative mode and knowing what
you do and why every time, 100% of all my experience in the last
six months, they will make it so much faster and so much more
valuable than those like 10 steps to which I will hold like
like a life life. Level pilot autopilot mode
activated, you know, entrepreneurship, the streets of
entrepreneurship are very, very tough.
You know, it often teaches us the hard way and of course, I
would like for you to share. I'd like for you to share a
failure or a set back, You know that turned into a powerful
lesson for you and can help motivate entrepreneurs and
professionals watching or listening to us today.
But honestly, again, just, it is very scary even for me even now.
And I remember like when we agreed with, with, with this
group of people with whom we hacked through the put all
together, we've built in the product.
We agreed on those 3 principles that we remember that we are, we
are, we have the piece of a big creator.
We are the winners. Like that's one too.
We read that the second thing is like, who asked the question?
Like who give you the problem? Who like, what are we solving?
And 3rd 1 is like up about and as you just said, I learned it
so hard way that to ship your feature, it's exactly those 10
steps, but I learned it so many times to let it go.
It's like it's scary, but 100% every time when I remember then
we try it, it's unbelievable magical how it works.
So, but it's still scary for me with all that experience
sometimes still, but it works. Scary, scary.
You know, that is fear, and the two most powerful human emotions
are greed and fear. And you know.
If I may respectfully disagree. OK, so So what would you say are
the most powerful emotions aside from greed and fear and most.
Powerful emotion. First of all, happy.
First of all, even from your smile, I know that you know the
answer, but let's I remember how hard for me was to say it out
loud because it's from the standpoint of the social bubble
or whatever. It's weird, but I know what I
know. The most powerful emotion is
love. Yeah, you read my mind.
I knew where you were going to. But permit me to correct myself.
The most powerful negative emotions, rather.
Greed. Yeah.
Greed, Fear. Hate those?
Fear. Those are the powerful negative
emotions, you know, That's yes, they are divided into the
positive, you know. Guilty blame like this.
So, so, so we agree to disagree and we disagree to agree.
You know, I'd like to take your advice for founders, for
dreamers, for entrepreneurs, because when you look at the
demography of the listeners of this podcast, it says on
refonics, the data states that the listeners are mostly
entrepreneurs and professionals. Over 40% of the people that
listen to those podcasts have a first degree, another 40% have a
massive degree or higher, and 20% have a PhD or higher.
So that is a massively educated audience.
Very smart people. Yeah.
So I'd like for you to give them a genius advice on how to turn
their passions into global impact businesses, Music.
Licensing Reimagine, if I may. 1st of all, thank you again.
From one genius to another, you're welcome.
We had, we had that conversation before the recording where I've
learned it and that the people and you said that there that I
don't like, I'm not the smartest person in the room.
I'm not the genius. I know exactly the people who
say that they they are. But yeah.
So thank you for that Compu there.
It's true from also my experience, which is also like I
paid some blood sweat and fix. Also the older is the person
like after like whatever like 35 and up.
For example, in a, the more intelligent or academical is the
brain metrically harder it becomes to let go the
methodologies, the knowledge you have just to believe in yourself
and like do it like the hardest to just to like, let's like
you've been in 45 years. You lived a life where you
always doubt it yourself just for like, let's give it a try,
like an experiment for a week where you agree that you're like
the best, everything's fine. It's very hard with academical
people. I understand they have all the
evidence that they probably are not which is but with Gen.
Z is is is faster? It's different and of course
that's why I like to say you cannot teach and old doc new
tricks and don't fall into the trap of paralysis by analysis
licensing. Just do it.
Still do it. That's why.
Just go for it, you're on. Sasser execute.
The human mind is, you know, the most powerful tool basically we
have and of course, imagine what the human mind can achieve with
the aid of artificial intelligence.
Imagine Dragons. Let's let's talk about my
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I think couldn't agree more. And it connects to the idea that
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We should have it. It amplifies, it unlocks another
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we had to master like 25 different professions just to
try to put together this like the, the, the, the, the
business. Of all trades, master of noise.
Yes, well, I T shape expertise as one person said, but it's
exactly what you said, to be honest.
But the most powerful thing in the world is idea.
An idea empowered with the AI tools we have now will be
unstoppable. Wow, interesting.
And you know, finally let's talk about one tool that is very,
very dear to my heart. And of course, we did utilize
this tool in terms of our communication, this Gamma app
Gamma app is an amazing, amazing AI enabled tool.
It helps you to create stunning presentations, websites, images
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So the Gamma app helps entrepreneurs like you and me to
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I think if you don't mind, I would like to share a little the
camera presentation that I sent to you.
And it's made for a great podcast preparation.
You know, I like to tell the tools that I use personally, you
know, not promoting, you know, brands that I don't use by
myself not that will never be that kind of an influenza.
I think that is all shades of wrong to do that as an
influencer promoted tools or products that you don't use just
because you want to get money. Let's see, let's let's call
gamma up. Let's see the presentation.
If I may add to what you've just said, a little piece of it that
I personally couldn't agree more.
And secondly, is that this is the reason why I'm pushing the
team and myself as well to focus on building Port Lei, not for
somebody like some group for, for us, for me and for you.
And and this is exactly what you just said because it's genuine
then and you know the pain, you solve it.
And then like I have AI have a guest that out of 8 billion
people, the audience will find that if you're genuine in
building, it's something which resonates with you and the
presentation. You know, this is the
presentation we sent to Vlad Panchenko to help him prepare
for this podcast episode. This is an amazing presentation.
I'm not saying this because it is worth, you know, presented or
created by me. This was created by me using our
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beautiful, amazing conversations.
If I might add again that I honestly, from my experience,
like it's just like the people who are younger and they don't
remember when there was no Google Maps and they had those
like printed maps. The amount of time and the
amount of knowledge and the amount of struggle I had to put
together to get to that beautiful presentation before.
Like if you are an entrepreneur, like, believe me, this is the
first thing for you to do. So yes, it's a blessing.
Absolutely, absolutely. You know, strategy and direction
help with execution and with execution communication comes,
you know, results. I'm really grateful to, to have
you on the show today. It's, it's really, really,
really amazing. But you know, before, before I
let you go, I would actually put you through the quick fire round
the Pacific Ring of Fire. It's 5 questions and rapid
answers. But before, before I put you
through that round, I'll ask you, you've actually obviously
been on, you know, multiple other podcasts, right?
So what resonates with you with this forecast?
What stands out, you know, for you with this forecast?
And what do you appreciate about the Kingdom's forecast?
You added a zero, and to my believing face in humankind,
it's just means that there are more like us.
And I'm not, because sometimes I doubt, but talking is here and I
and I think similar people are attracted to similar people.
Something tells me that your audience is also not a
coincidence in the connotations we had before the recording.
And now you really inspired me. I thank you very much, and I
think that actually very much I resonates and aligns with the
title that I was bestowed upon the very, very important
lifelong friend that I've made from our podcast, and that is
Morgan Q Anderson, she's in your neck of the woods.
She's one of the top tax debts resolution experts in the United
States and she said you are a modern day business philosopher.
And I've taken a title and run with it since it's been given to
me. So I pride myself.
As they say here. They say.
Here in the United States, my name is Velodimo Panchento and I
support this message. Thank you very much.
Fantastic. So big fire out.
Are you ready to rumble? Let's get.
Let's go K console or PC? What's your go to for gaining
fun? OK, the one book every
entrepreneur in tech should read.
The Red Book of Carl Yule. K coffee, tea, or something
stronger when you are brainstorming.
I wouldn't. My answer would be to always
just make a decision and the goal was played by the ear.
I do drink only water and well and go ahead with this fitness
thing and remember, yeah, for quite a long time.
So coffee and water are my choice.
But again, if at some point, yes, I remember some time ago I
wanted a beer, I had it so. Something stronger, at ease then
who inspires you most inside or outside of the cameo world?
Hey, I have to take the, let's say, very well known world by
celebrities. The person who changed a lot of
also my belief was Richard Branson.
Richard Branson, Virgin. Virgin, Sir.
Richard Branson. Yes, Sir.
Richard Branson. Correction.
Correction, please. I appreciate that guy.
He is the definition of a serial entrepreneur.
You know, highly, highly productive mind.
Highly enterprising mind. Yeah.
Respect to to the others in the game.
You're highly appreciated, Sir. Richard Branson, if you could
give your younger self one piece of advice in a single sentence,
what would that be? Learn about yourself, who are
you, like as soon as possible. Just like, I don't know, like
just just like I would be very tough like like shut up like in
this, like try to sit down and understand like what is The Who
are you? What is your decision making
process and ask yourself a question.
What the heck is happening? Get that?
Like I remember the moment when I stopped trying to understand
other people because I understood that even to
understand myself, I'm very far away from there and let's start
from there. So that would be my noise so.
That advice is actually great because it alliance with SO
creators. A quick philosopher says man
know thyself. So this is great reason on this
aligns with Asian reason and that's why I keep saying
principles. Principles rule the world and
geniuses and successful people aligned with time tested and
trusted principles. If I may add, what I also do
believe in is that talents and being a genius is important.
However, success comes every time.
It's all about you're jumping like a leap of face and you have
to be consistent in that thing and if you are successful.
With the hustle and the execution.
Leap of face. That is why I.
Didn't say yes. If you're ready to let go
everything and believe in yourself, leap of face and try
and try and try. The more I'd say talented you
are the faster success will come.
But it will still come if you do it faster and execute.
Yes, exactly, and then the king will be bored.
Guess what? Have have a saying that I love
so much that aligns with what you have just said and I think
you may want to write this one down.
I always say this. Talent is never enough.
Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard all
day long. Every time.
Hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard or
when talent works hard, you have an unstoppable and undeniable
individual. May I?
Absolutely, I paid too much for this.
So I'll share with you my own experience and then it's up to
you whether to use it or not because we're everyone is
different. However, is what you said right?
Of course I do believe in that 100%.
What I learned in the last year, maybe 2, is that I'll if to let
go, Yeah. And not focus on how hard and
how much you work, but focus on what you actually want to do and
feel that you love as again, scary shit.
So 41 years, too many things, too many battles, too many
wounds. But it's right.
But you know what? It's for me, it proved to be so
much effective. So it's like, I'm still like,
wow. That's why my profounder a few
times when we, we, we went through some bumps along the
road of building the product like this.
And he was like, how did it? Like I said, I don't know, I
don't know. And and when you do what you
love, what you believe in, and then there is no hard work.
So it's not the work like you love it, you do it and it's so
much faster. Like a hobby, I see this.
With pain comes purpose, and with finding your purpose comes
power. So pain, purpose, power.
When you find your purpose, you become a powerful individual.
I would be honest with you. So if not the pain I had,
honestly I wouldn't be at the Finder when I know my purpose,
yes. But then I learned that we can
find the purpose with less pain and I tried and it works.
That's why an experience. Is the best teacher experience
is the best teacher, but it doesn't have to be your own
experience. You can always learn from the
experience of those that have gone before you and.
Then then with less pain, you find the purpose and then after
that there is no pain if you let go of the fear.
No pain really. Absolutely.
And a lot of delivery, a lot of execution, beautiful numbers
like. Absolutely.
You know, you know I have an acronym for fear.
I call fear False evidences appearing real false evidences
appear of. Course.
That is fear, yeah. That is my second question.
Yeah, if you only go for something in your life, if you
always go for something in your life, you would always, you
know, come back with something meaningful.
If we try, we may fail or if we don't, we have failed Nelson
Mandela. So it's always good to to to go
for something. And that's why I always end the
podcast, you know, with this saying, conceive, believe,
strive to thrive and achieve. So always go for something in
your lives and you would always enjoy the fruit of your labour,
of your passion if you stick to it consistently and resiliently.
He would, he would, he would achieve someday.
He might be painful, he might belong, but if you stick to it,
he would be amazed by the results you would achieve.
So just surround yourself with, you know, great people that
would give you feel positive energy.
Yeah. Your vibe attracts your tribe.
That is so powerful.
Along with everything else you've said.
I agree with every word and your vibe attracts your tribe.
And just believe in yourself and be passionate.
Yeah, powerful words. Thank you.
Wow, for me to you, it's love and respect coming from London,
England. And of course, I think our
audience would love to see a Part 2 of this one so you can
talk to your PA to book out the next session.
Guys, watch out for Part 2 of The Kingdom's Forecast with Vlad
Panchenko all the way from college Floor.
What are your parting words to to the audience?
Absolutely. You have to share this one.
You've got no choice. Share like, Subscribe, Comment
Show all of the love you know. Love, share, subscribe but if
you would ask me the most important thing which I do now,
now believe because something may change but just believe in
yourself. It's scary shit.
So we have those jeans. Mammons always like getting
prepared for some bullshit which never happens.
Give it a trade for, you know, some time just to believe in
yourself and see what happens. I love that once again, I kind
of always love to say an attitude of gratitude is good
attitude. And when a person shares their
time with you, they share their life with you because the SI
unit of measuring life is time. Thank you very much, Vlad
Pentenco for your time today on the podcast.
I do not take you for granted. You're highly, immensely and
intensely appreciated by me. And on behalf of the King James
family and community, it's God bless you and guys to like on
your way again soon. Do not forget, conceive, belief,
strive to thrive and achieve. Goodbye for me and this flood
today.