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We're live. 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,960 Ladies and gentlemen, you once again welcome to the King James 24 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:22,720 Podcast and Diary of a CFO. And today I've got with me 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:30,360 fighting out of London, England, Mick Walkham, Chris Baldry, 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,800 Cheerio. How are you, Chris? 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,360 Hey, I'm really good. Thank you. 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,240 Really, really good. Good to be a continue the 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,080 conversation and that's it Rhonda, I'm on. 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,520 I I was tempted to to always say Chris BC. 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Yeah, let's let's get past that. He just. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Makes it easy. He he just makes it easy. 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,600 Yeah, I'm really. Glad, you know, having you, I, 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,200 I, I'm very, very happy having you on the podcast today. 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,720 And, you know, thank you. I've got 2 podcasts, right? 36 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,520 The King Games podcast and diary for CFO. 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Yeah. And the best guests you can ever 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,920 have are the guests that are able to, you know, be on both 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,560 platforms. So come on, no longer you 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:17,320 called? No don't worry you called BC. 41 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:22,560 BC could mean Baudray Cheerio but to me BC is a BI champion 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,440 because he can be on 2 podcasts. Perfect. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,520 So sit back, relax, and of course, let me read out your 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,040 introduction. So today on the podcast, we are 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,800 joined by a tree innovator redefining the future of money 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,560 and property. Crease BC, if you like, is the 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,520 CEO and Founder of Construct Coin, an AIM blockchain powered 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:51,400 real estate finance platform disrupting our 280 USD trillion 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,120 global industry. So from his military background 50 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:01,240 to building an AI protocol that reduces loan approvals by 95% 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,280 creases pioneering 1 of the broadest token presales in 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,400 history, aiming for $100 billion in sustainable growth with real 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,640 estate backing, a real asset backing visionary Be the Bank 54 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:18,480 philosophy and operations plan in the UK, British Virgin 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,440 Islands, in Dubai. Chris is here to unpack the 56 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:27,120 intersection of AI, blockchain and real estate and how it can 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,160 change the financial future of everyday people. 58 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Ladies and gentlemen, let's dive in and make welcome again Chris 59 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,200 BC see the show. I'm still celebrating that 60 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,880 introduction. Wow, fantastic. 61 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,840 Thank you very much. That is what we are doing for 62 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,680 sure. You know, it's it's really 63 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,280 topical at the moment, certainly in the UKI think, I think 64 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,320 housing and and housing provision and the finance around 65 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,200 it is a huge thing globally, but in the UK it's really, really 66 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,520 topical. So yeah, thank you for that 67 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,520 intro. Let's let's let's get into it. 68 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,840 I'm really, really happy to be. A scary the party started. 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,880 You know your journey is actually taking you from the 70 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,920 British Army to property development, consumer goods and 71 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,960 of course now fintech innovation. 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,160 So what were some of the key minds achieved that prepared you 73 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,720 for this quantum? Journey, yeah. 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,280 So look, I think it's, it's really difficult to articulate 75 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:26,040 the chronological order, chronological order of all of 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,240 this, right, Really concisely. But life has been a journey as 77 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,680 it is for all of us, right? And I think I first got into 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,880 property development and property early, early level, 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,400 early stage property finance is the first part of my career, 80 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:44,040 learning about structuring deals and and refinancing mortgages 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,600 and self build mortgages in the UK. 82 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,360 And I think that the entrepreneurial streak in me was 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:58,200 really set alight when I discovered ways of using the 84 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,840 banking system to generate wealth through the acquisition 85 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:04,760 of property and land. I was too young to really 86 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,920 embrace the opportunity and fully understand it. 87 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,480 And having built some foundations academically, 88 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,640 professionally for a couple of years, I learned a huge amount 89 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,120 about the industry but wasn't quite ready for the execution. 90 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,480 And I still had this athletic mindset that pulled me into a 91 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,440 different direction of self improvement and, and you know, 92 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,640 this better version of myself, which has led me to elitism in 93 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,960 the military, I think, and, and pursuing a part of that, which 94 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,320 was part of my boyhood, as most, most young men have this desire 95 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,880 to play with big trucks, big toys, big loud toys and, and 96 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,600 embrace that as a part of my life that I felt I needed to 97 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,440 just satisfy without really considering what that really 98 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,640 meant until I actually started doing it. 99 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 And, you know, there was a paradigm shifting in my mindset, 100 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,840 which was consolidating a lot of that early years learning and 101 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:00,840 that entrepreneurial flare that I'd sparked. 102 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:04,960 And that gave me the confidence to step outside of that military 103 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,440 world, take that first step on a new journey, and fire up that 104 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,760 entrepreneurial desire that I had to translate that into 105 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,720 opportunity that started to build a foundation for my life. 106 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:21,640 And what subsequently followed? You know, reality is different 107 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,040 from daydreaming. When I talk about these big 108 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,720 toys, when it becomes real, it's a different. 109 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,400 It's a ball game. But you know, something I 110 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,320 appreciate about you is the fact that you are, when I say, when 111 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,000 they say when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. 112 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,480 If that scene was a person, you should be like an embodiment of 113 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,600 that scene. You are like the poster boy of 114 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,400 that scene, actually. And of course, you've actually 115 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,400 spoken about how failures have actually helped to shape your 116 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,840 path. Can you share if you wish you 117 00:06:56,840 --> 00:07:01,800 know one or two setbacks that became turning points for your 118 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,080 entrepreneurial journey? Yeah. 119 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,800 So let let me show you something that we didn't talk about. 120 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,960 That is a story that's I'm quite comfortable sharing now, but 121 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,560 it's quite close to my heart because quite early in my early 122 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,480 years. So it might make some of your 123 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,120 listeners laugh if not you, but when I was. 124 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,520 I I can laugh at the drop of a needle. 125 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,960 You know so my. Mom is. 126 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,800 From South America, right? My mom brought us up, you know, 127 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,480 in a very humble, humble space, my sister and I, and I'm about 128 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,000 this thing, as most mums do, about losing keys and what to do 129 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,960 if you lose your keys, right? So that stereotype, you lose 130 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,320 your keys, every lock in your house, but up and down the 131 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,880 street needs to be changed, let alone your own house, right? 132 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,520 And I and I, I had an incident after one day at school where I 133 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,360 was on my bike, put my hand in my pocket as I was talking to 134 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 some friends, pulled my hand out of my pocket and my keys 135 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,480 literally slow motion hit the bike frame and fell to the 136 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,800 floor. But as they fell to the floor, I 137 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,320 was above a storm drain. It literally landed on the on on 138 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,560 one of the throngs of the rail and just rolled into the storm 139 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,200 drain and dropped down to the bottom of the store drain. 140 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,520 I was just watching this in slow motion thinking Oh my God, Oh my 141 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,400 God. And I thought to myself, what am 142 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,640 I going to do? And of course, I went home that 143 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,360 night and explained to my mom that the the keys had lost 144 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,960 falling down the drain. She just wasn't, she just didn't 145 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,840 believe it. She just was not having it. 146 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,920 And of course I knew I just, I could how, how do you make 147 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,240 someone believe that your keys are in the drain and necessarily 148 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,000 there and saw it, let alone your own mum, right? 149 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,640 And I knew the panic. I could see the panic in her 150 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,799 face on setting that she was going to change every lock in 151 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:38,400 the house. She was going to chat. 152 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Even though, you know, let's think about this rationally. 153 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,360 Your keys don't have an address on it. 154 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,720 There's no identify to a specific house or who they 155 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,960 belong to. So even if I had dropped them on 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,720 the street and someone picked them up, no one's going to know 157 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,120 they're my keys or that they belong to our property, right? 158 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,880 So here's the thing and the panic it's set in. 159 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,920 It's the. Paranoia. 160 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:58,880 Bro, unbelievable, right? And we laugh about this today, 161 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,000 but at the time it was like, I need to get those keys. 162 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,880 So I jumped back on my bike and I rode back to the road that was 163 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,240 around the corner from my school. 164 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,040 And all I could think of using at the time was a bottle. 165 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,360 I think it was a bottle of Coke, plastic bottle of Coke, I can't 166 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,440 remember. I knocked on a Gore, Gore got 167 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,720 some scissors and cut it open. I didn't tell them what I was 168 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,560 doing is saying, look, could you please help me because I've lost 169 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:23,000 my keys blower. I lifted the storm drain up and 170 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,520 then I started emptying this drain. 171 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,280 I'm just going to say to you, this started at probably 4:15, 172 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,400 half past four, at 20 to one. That morning, that night, that 173 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,960 morning, I finished, I'd emptied the drain. 174 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,240 My dad, my dad had come over. He didn't live with us. 175 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,960 My dad had come over and had come to where I was. 176 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,880 He had some dry cleaning in the car. 177 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,240 Glitchy emptied this storm drain and he'd helped me. 178 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,320 At that point, he was holding me upside down because I was, I was 179 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,560 not leaving. I was not leaving until I pulled 180 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,480 the keys out of that drain and I'd scrape the sediment off the 181 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,000 drain. Anyway, the moral of the story 182 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,960 is that he hung me upside down. I'd used a coat hanger to scrape 183 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,080 the bottom of the drain. It'd taken best part of 6-7 184 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,360 hours to empty it. And I finally pulled the keys 185 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,160 out. And that moment, like I sort of 186 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,440 picked the keys up and went, there's my keys. 187 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,200 That was a defining moment for me. 188 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,200 I didn't realise at the time, but you know, I, I remember 189 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,880 years later, my dad saying to me, you know, there's a 190 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,480 determination in you that's a rare quality because you were 191 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,480 determined to prove that, you know, those keys were there, 192 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,640 right. And so that's, that's, that's 193 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,760 the quality that stayed with me. And whenever I faced a 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,920 situation, whether it's athletically, whether it's 195 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,480 anything to do with, you know, just needing to get stuff done, 196 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,400 that has always been one of the few reminders in my life that if 197 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,640 you're absolutely certain you just need to go, you just need 198 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,080 to get it done, finish whatever, whatever it takes, just get it 199 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,000 done. So, so that that that is 200 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,400 definitely a theme. And then the other bit is just 201 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,360 just that self belief. You know, you've got to back 202 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,240 yourself. You absolutely have to back 203 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,240 yourself and you have to surround yourself with people 204 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,640 who believe in what you're doing, but also have the 205 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,440 strength of character to believe in themselves. 206 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,960 And you know, taking those steps is I think is absolutely is a 207 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,640 mixture of things, you know, but just just get it done. 208 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,560 Fundamentally, just get it done. I love, I love, I love this 209 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:16,160 story. You know, it basically aligns 210 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,040 with the theme of The Kingdom's podcast. 211 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,640 The theme of The Kingdom's forecast is growth mindset, 212 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:25,560 leadership and business insights, right? 213 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:31,000 And I always love me a guest that aligns with the theme of 214 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,520 the podcast. I set out to do just two things, 215 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:42,040 to educate and to motivate. If I have those two things done, 216 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,360 I think my job is done. Yeah, we're winning. 217 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,840 I'm I'm grateful to have people like you do the job for me. 218 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Talking about how we how determined we are to find our 219 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,000 keys, right? But let me tell you something 220 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,840 Anyone that's nice about? I'm telling you. 221 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Anyone that knows about South American mums will understand 222 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,280 the significance of that event in my life in terms of keeping 223 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,080 the peace. But you know, I, I think as with 224 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,960 all things you, sometimes you just need to take the first step 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,320 and, and the journey of life is one of learning, right? 226 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,840 We have to embrace, we have to embrace every, every task as an 227 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,560 opportunity. We learn from our mistakes. 228 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,120 If we, if we fail, if we get things wrong, just pick 229 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,040 yourselves up and go again. You have to fail in order to 230 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,440 learn this idea that everything is going to be perfect is just a 231 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,120 myth. The world just isn't like that, 232 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,120 right? And the world today, especially 233 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,560 with technology, will make you think that everything is shiny, 234 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:34,360 everything, everything's going to go perfect. 235 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,840 That's just not what it is. But you have to go through 236 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,120 adversity A to appreciate, but also to achieve. 237 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:45,520 You know, no outcome is possible without some level of work 238 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,920 ethic, some level of commitment, some level of, of, I want to say 239 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,120 anxiety. That's probably not the right 240 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,240 word. But you, you just have to 241 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,400 commit. You just have to commit in every 242 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,560 task. And I think this has probably 243 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,920 been a consistent challenge to me throughout the years is, you 244 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,040 know, is finding your focus and finding the things that you're 245 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,040 passionate about. And I think that that passion is 246 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,680 your fuel. But if you can enjoy what you 247 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:09,720 do, you can be happier what you do. 248 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Passion is very, very important. It's no longer a task. 249 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,040 It's no longer a task. So then you just think about 250 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,320 what you chasing and why and where are the priorities and all 251 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,480 of that, you know, and that's the analogy. 252 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,560 Sometimes it's just about doing things right. 253 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,400 Sometimes it's about doing what needs to be done. 254 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,840 And, and most of all, it's about doing things properly. 255 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,760 And I think people embrace that. People respect that, people lean 256 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,440 towards that and adopt that in their own mindsets. 257 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,320 And if that's something that people can take away from being 258 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,600 around you, that's got to be a good thing. 259 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,240 Absolutely, Absolutely. The very last thing you said, if 260 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,080 that's something people can pick from you, that's, you know, 261 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,680 really a great deal. I remember like recently, I 262 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:51,880 think a few months ago, like an ex colleague of mine called me 263 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:57,200 and guess what they said this lady was like, oh wow, I'm 264 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,080 really, really proud of you. I'm like, oh, why? 265 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,480 She was like, oh, the way you have built your podcast from 266 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:10,560 ground, you know, to a globally, you know, recognized brand, like 267 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:14,040 it's really amazing. I see your hard work, I see your 268 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,560 consistency and I'm like, oh, wow, so people loop, right. 269 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,560 People see people see your beauty and and guess what? 270 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,760 This person was like, I need to come take a master class from 271 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,760 you to learn how to be consistent. 272 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,480 And like, excuse me, like there are certain things I don't think 273 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,080 you just can't teach a person. Like how do you teach 274 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,360 consistency? It's contagious, right? 275 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Growth mindset is contagious and success breeds success, you 276 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,000 know, and there's a, there's an alchemy that attracts when 277 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,040 you're doing things right. I think when you're doing things 278 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,480 properly and, you know, and I think that that's one of the 279 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,920 beauties of humanity is that we, we shine as human beings when, 280 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,440 when we're doing things properly. 281 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,080 And, and I think that that aspiration is, is, is in us all. 282 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,920 It's in us on the it's the right and wrong thing. 283 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,000 You know, it's about understanding, you know, that 284 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,760 you can do things better and that you can be better. 285 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,200 And that applies to so much in life. 286 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,960 You know, it's a central theme of everything that we're doing 287 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,880 at the moment. And I say we, you know, I'm the 288 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,480 CEO of Constructor and I'm leading execs in the business, 289 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,320 but there's a few of us and we all have that same mindset. 290 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,400 It's how do we, how do we do things better properly, but do 291 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,200 it humbly. You know, we don't need to be 292 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,960 shouting off the rooftops about what we're doing because we're 293 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,640 doing it. But it doesn't mean we can't 294 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,840 take pride and talk about it and be our own advocates. 295 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,480 But I think there's a real subtle difference and I think if 296 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,480 you. Don't blow your trumpet. 297 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,440 Who? Who's going to blow from? 298 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:36,240 It. Yeah, exactly. 299 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,400 Right, Exactly. But when people take note and 300 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,000 recognize those things, that's a really endearing moment. 301 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,520 So I think for you to have. Yeah. 302 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,320 A lot. Speaks a lot. 303 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Very, very endearing moment because like it's crazy and you 304 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,480 know, somebody called me one time and I was like, well I see 305 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,200 the work you do. Like I see you have posted 306 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,280 without feel every week and it's crazy how the necessity told me 307 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,960 that the only time I saw that you took a break was in January 308 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,680 this year and you did not post for two weeks. 309 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,480 And when you came back, I saw that you rebranded your podcast 310 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,960 and I was like, wow. So people actually notice and 311 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,160 this is somebody that doesn't even post a single comment on 312 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,600 any of the platforms, but they're telling me what exactly 313 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,840 I am doing. I'm like wow. 314 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,680 You got real fan Raven Tech that's a good book to read by 315 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,000 the way, brother, that's a great book to read. 316 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Highly recommend rate rate and about customer service and the 317 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,280 importance of valuing valuing your customer base and making 318 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,840 them really feel that value. You know, not in a transactional 319 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,880 way. You know what like we were 320 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,160 talking about how software companies tend to operate today. 321 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,360 There's a process, the perception of service, but the 322 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,840 depth just isn't there. You know, really isn't. 323 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,560 It's all about the. Customer service. 324 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,960 Yeah. That, that that's, that's a 325 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,280 whole podcast on its own. That was episode 100 of my 326 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,360 podcast with a guy here in the UK. 327 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,680 You're on you're on Diaz, right? We, we delved into customer 328 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,319 service and customer experience. I think guys go go watch it and 329 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,960 of course, yeah, it's it's a really great work. 330 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,319 It's it's crazy how you know, customer experience ease in this 331 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,640 age and time, right? You and me could go to the same 332 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,960 restaurant and have different experiences, right? 333 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,839 However, the companies, especially these software 334 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:30,320 companies these days, think they can create an experience and 335 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,160 push it on you. No. 336 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,440 And they have a false sense of customer service. 337 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,800 Especially these guys who just take your money and force you to 338 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:44,160 interact with AI tag parts. A process is, yeah, the most 339 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,880 annoying thing. That's the most annoying thing 340 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,720 that has ever happened in human history, in my opinion. 341 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,640 I start to be corrected. Ultimately, it doesn't lead to a 342 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,560 great brand experience, sorry, and it doesn't, it doesn't lead 343 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,240 to you being an advocate of that brand or the experience you've 344 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,040 just had. That's the thing, right? 345 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,400 And I think that when we talk about society and where the 346 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,400 change needs to happen to reflect where we want to be 347 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,320 rather than where we are, it's about the, the commercial 348 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,720 narrative around a lot of what happens today and how things are 349 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,560 delivered, communicated, the access to information, how that 350 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,040 information is transmitted and the passage of that information. 351 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,560 You know, and there's some fundamental flaws in the 352 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,680 progression that we've made in the last 20 years that have 353 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,760 shaped the mindset of people and, and what they think is 354 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,160 right and wrong in, in circumstances. 355 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,280 And that transaction, be that physically or digitally, has 356 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,240 captured a lot of those errors and turned it into a process, 357 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,000 which just isn't acceptable when you're, when, when you're 358 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,880 talking about how you should engage. 359 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,440 And don't get me wrong, there's, there's, there's a time for 360 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,000 parameters. And yes, every business has a 361 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,120 right to generate a profit, but the experience and value in the 362 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:54,840 people that enable you to generate that profit is a key 363 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,840 part of it. And I think once that shift is 364 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,840 addressed, then there's a, you know, the follow up of that is 365 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,560 how does that translate to the world we live in? 366 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,960 And, you know, the society that we're building and for us in 367 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,040 construct coin and, you know, the, the, the initial product 368 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,240 and, and, and actually the application is the output of 369 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,360 what we're creating and, and the shaping of society through the 370 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:19,480 communities that we build, through the houses that we're 371 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,120 building and the, the living space that we're creating in the 372 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:25,000 developments and how people value that living space, how 373 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,160 people, how people engage with that living space. 374 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,680 And, and it's a mindset, it's a mindset shift that starts at 375 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,920 home And, and you know, the, the, the transaction. 376 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Charity begins at home. But it's where it starts, right? 377 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,760 And, and, and how you live determines how you start your 378 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,440 day, you know, how you engage with the rest of the world. 379 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,320 So customer service, it's a huge subject, the mindset of 380 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,280 commercial operations for customer service for profit. 381 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960 How do businesses engage? Well, that's about the fabric of 382 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,240 society today. You know, it really is. 383 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,440 And I think when when we talk about what we're building and, 384 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,240 and, and what we want to do, it's about actually how to 385 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,560 change, how to create opportunity, how to get people 386 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,480 plugged back into value in their communities, their living space. 387 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,320 And, and changing the way that they want, they engage with the 388 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,200 world, you know, because you don't feel that you need to 389 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,200 take, take, take all the time. It's you can give back. 390 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,880 You can feel that this purpose you invested in your space, you 391 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,880 invested in asset that is yours. And all these things are 392 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,080 connected and they shape our outlook and how we and, and, and 393 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,000 how and, and, and how we innovate, how we grow and how we 394 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,560 how we go about achieving those things. 395 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,920 You know, one thing I'm really happy with what you guys are 396 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,920 doing is the fact that you are merging AI I'm blockchain to 397 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:46,160 revolutionize real estate. Have you taken a look at my at 398 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:51,320 my initials? Yes, yes, yes, yes. 399 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,680 I said So what are my initial? Well, a. 400 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,040 A. They take away the O. 401 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,600 What do you have? Well AI go on break it down for 402 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,000 me. That's AI brother, I'm saying. 403 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,040 I saw that, I know that. But you're not the artificial 404 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,080 intelligence. I'm sitting there waiting for 405 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,080 the, for the, for the moment of me. 406 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,720 Whatever you think, whatever you think, my parents did the right 407 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,080 thing. They knew, you know, over 30 408 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,600 years ago that this, this guy, this guy's going to be special, 409 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,120 they thought. You were going to start thinking 410 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:26,680 of all of us. Yeah. 411 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,440 So, you know, you know, with with all this stuff at him, it's 412 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:37,880 like it's community start communities with that living 413 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,920 space, right. And you know, we were just 414 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,600 talking about customer service because that's a representation 415 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,240 of people's mindsets and a representation of society as a 416 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,880 whole. Just basically about just get, 417 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,440 I've got to get the money. I've got to get the money. 418 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,240 You know, the focus is shifted to just getting the money when 419 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,960 it really should just be about how we're bettering, how are we 420 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,560 bettering what we have, how we create opportunity, How we how 421 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,760 we empowering the younger generation to plug into the 422 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,040 future, to fill investors in developing themselves and the 423 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,040 world that they live in or the part of the world that they live 424 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,840 in, not just about taking, taking, taking. 425 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,000 And we really believe that that starts at home and that starts 426 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,240 in the living space that belongs to yourself, that belongs to the 427 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,720 broader community that live around you. 428 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,040 You're all invested in that, you're all looking after that 429 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720 you value that, you know, and then you set yourself another 430 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,000 goal, which is about how do I, how do I do more of this? 431 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,720 And, and everyone has different ambitions in life, right? 432 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,320 But for those that want to be builders and creators, it just 433 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800 lays the, I guess the foundations of your thought 434 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,440 process. It changes your sentiment to a 435 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,760 degree. And I think that the utility 436 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,600 that we see in in AI, in the opportunity to accelerate 437 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,760 housing through rapid access to finance for developers, the 438 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:57,120 opportunity to create an ecosystem whereby we are able to 439 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:00,080 give token holders, investors the opportunity to invest as 440 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,600 much or as little as they want in this ecosystem. 441 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,120 So they can be the bank. It's not just a set of words, 442 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,000 it's a very thought through mindset that you're opening up 443 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,880 what has been a closed door opportunity to anyone that will 444 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,640 partake. Where jurisdiction, regulation, 445 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,520 regulatory requirements will allow you to. 446 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,920 You know, when we are creating tools that enable the reshaping 447 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,800 of an entire ecosystem within an industry, from the finance to 448 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,840 the build, to the the services aspects of the sales and letting 449 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,640 all the way through to the real world utility of that living 450 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,640 space. How that can generate income, 451 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,120 how that house can look after you or that property can look 452 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,960 after you in a way. And how you can part own or own 453 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,720 in full if there's so many different opportunities for 454 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,560 people vested in what we call the homes of the future. 455 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,240 And it starts with finance, you know, so looking at that 456 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,640 holistic. Absolutely. 457 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,360 It's a finance. It's not so finance, but looking 458 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,720 at it holistically, it's just creating the opportunity for 459 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720 everyone to be as involved as much or as little as possible. 460 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:11,280 You know, houses will come and go, the land that property is 461 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,440 built on will change. You know, there'll be developers 462 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,600 today that aren't here today tomorrow, and there'll be 463 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,360 developers that stand the test of time. 464 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,680 But the one consistent theme in all of that from people that are 465 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,160 making money to people that aren't making money is the the 466 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,760 entities that are provided that infrastructure and that's the 467 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,840 banks. And that's been a consistent 468 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,320 theme for a very, very long time. 469 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,600 And that that creates a huge well lace the sets of foundation 470 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,960 for quite an imbalance. And So what what we're creating 471 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,840 through the the world of digital currency and crypto is, is the 472 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,640 opportunity for that imbalance to reset, albeit on a much 473 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,440 smaller scale, but it's still an opportunity for it to reset for 474 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,480 people to partake who want to partake. 475 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,640 And as a direct consequence of that, you're creating an entire 476 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,880 new infrastructure for living, as well as industry advancement 477 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,240 and development within, within real estate across the board. 478 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,200 So, so those, the, the mindset that I'm referring to, the, the 479 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,920 commercial mindset is, yes, every business has a right to 480 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,680 make a profit. It's just what we're in business 481 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,120 for. But it's about doing things 482 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,640 properly. And what are the, what are the 483 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,840 implications of that business's operations on the ecosystem that 484 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,120 you operate within? And if you're today, we have to 485 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,560 be doing good for society. We have to be good doing good 486 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,840 for the environment, for the economy, you know, these all 487 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,760 responsibilities of business leaders today, energy 488 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,320 efficiency, energy sustainability, as well as 489 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,760 wealth generation. You know, not just for a small 490 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,400 few for the masses or anyone that wants to partake. 491 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,200 And in doing so, you're also creating opportunity because 492 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,640 you're building businesses that employ people, you're 493 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,000 contributing to the economy through the traditional taxation 494 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 systems and so on and so forth. But but people have to be 495 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,480 invested in that growth and that and that's a big thing for us. 496 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,880 So when I talk about, and as you highlighted that sort of that 497 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,360 principle of customer service, that that really does just 498 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:05,360 highlight the, the really thunderous noise of what is 499 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:10,320 wrong with society today, that, that, that, that this is a part 500 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,400 of creating a momentum of changing, you know, and you 501 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,400 know, and we're not the only people doing that, that I I 502 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,560 think that the decentralized world, there's a lot of that 503 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,960 mindsets about spreading the wealth and creating innovation 504 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,920 and speeding up the pace of innovation and opportunity in 505 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,560 different parts of the world through the movement of data and 506 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,960 information. All these things are highly 507 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,680 relevant, right? But but that's, that's our 508 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,800 thought for our, for our contribution. 509 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,560 That's that's where our flag is in the sand. 510 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,800 And I think that a lot of what I've done and seen in my early 511 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,400 years and, and my sort of military experience just really 512 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,880 highlighted the need as I have felt exposed to this opportunity 513 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,400 to partake and have the confidence to take those steps 514 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,000 and start that journey. You know, I appreciate you 515 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,080 talking about how the landscape of the, the, what I say, the 516 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,200 finance world globally is changing, especially with 517 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,600 decentralized finance. We, we, we're seeing a new trend 518 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,680 and of course new financial culture taking shape, albeit it 519 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,560 might be slow, right, due to certain traditional resistance, 520 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:21,000 but over time we will see that wholesale change happen on a 521 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,720 global scale. You and your team have actually 522 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,400 introduced A-100 face token, a presale model, right? 523 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,440 And of course something no other crypto project has attempted. 524 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:39,040 Why is this bold approach taken and how does it protect against 525 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,880 the pomp and dump cycles that we have seen in the crypto? 526 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,400 World coins, Yeah, I think, I think so. 527 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,560 I think it's important to separate past from present and 528 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,360 some of the smoke and mirrors products and projects that exist 529 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,080 in that sort of digital currency work those. 530 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,720 Meme coins are annoying brother. Bro I still I still don't 531 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,080 understand meme coins frankly speaking. 532 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,880 I mean if people want to invest in stuff that's their 533 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,680 prerogative right? And they exist for a reason. 534 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,240 But but the, the, the, the proposition just to answer the 535 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,000 first question. So, so we're, we're in 100 phase 536 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,240 pre. So we're not actually the only 537 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520 people to do that. We're probably the first to 538 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,680 really clearly articulate the plan. 539 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,200 But within that there's actually quite a few milestones, right. 540 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,120 So the first one is obviously our launch and talking about how 541 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,520 we have consolidated the activity off chain to provide 542 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,880 the security for token holders on chain. 543 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,440 Now one critical part of all of this is that every development 544 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,400 that we're engaged with provides the security to our token 545 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400 holders. So first and foremost we have 546 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,280 today we have just over 13 1/2 a million on chain and in 547 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,400 security. There is another I can't quote 548 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,120 the full number, but that's going to ramp up quite 549 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,920 significantly with with some deals that have been executed 550 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640 through the pre launch phase recently. 551 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,760 And the the purpose of that initial position is to establish 552 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880 our loan book to fund the developments we have in our deal 553 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,840 flow right now with developers who have MVP D our initial 554 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,000 product and we've been working with to roll this out right. 555 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,600 The second part of it is that I've been very vocal as have 556 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560 members of my team in the traditional construction world 557 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,320 about what we're doing and what we're building in the Southeast 558 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,160 of England specifically in terms of sustainable family homes. 559 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,640 So that the narrative of a pump and dump I think can't really 560 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,120 come anywhere near us because we're very we have a very clear 561 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,000 road map. And what we're doing is 562 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,560 demonstrating how we are pioneering change as well as 563 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,120 bringing about some pre-existing change in a consolidated fashion 564 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,200 into living space in in this part of the country. 565 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:53,760 From the energy generation to the use of water filtration 566 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,680 systems for efficiency, there's a real cool use cases in, in 567 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,640 what we call a smarter home, as well as some of the stuff that 568 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,960 will just appeal to tech native people who who want to be 569 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,920 connected to the latest bits and pieces that they use day-to-day 570 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,400 in their home. And of course with the, the 571 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,000 phases of our presale that set out over a period of time. 572 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,280 So within that we have our token generation event, we have our, 573 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,520 we have our certainty that a point in time in the not too 574 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,080 distant future, we will be launching that token across 575 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,400 exchanges and token holders that have invested will see the 576 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400 appreciation of that token. And again, at all times we're 577 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,360 adding developments to provide the security to those tokens as 578 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,680 well as rolling out some of the other features and functionality 579 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,560 that will exist in the protocol, which we're really excited 580 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,120 about. South the Construct Queen as a 581 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,120 protocol is all about the network that we want to build, 582 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,680 that we want to encourage other organizations to build within. 583 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,160 And and those things are the things that separate us from 584 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720 some of the horror stories that we hear about that have been and 585 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,040 gone. And the truth is, when you. 586 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaking of horror stories, I have a Horror Story for you. 587 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,000 And and that's the thing. Right. 588 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,760 So that that is bio, I don't know if you had a bio, have you 589 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,120 had a bio the the client for the Pharmaceutical industry? 590 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,560 Go tell me about. It, that is, that's a very 591 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,280 horrible Horror Story. I, I did invest in that client 592 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,800 personality, but it was, it was bonkers. 593 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,280 And so they, they claimed that they were meant to be that token 594 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880 to help with pharmaceutical research, you know, medical 595 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,360 research and help to revolutionize the, you know, 596 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560 pharmaceutical and medical industry. 597 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,200 However, you know, they got launched on Binance and that 598 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,880 coin only kept on falling. I don't know what it is right 599 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,520 now, but I think it's it's next to nothing right now. 600 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,280 It's crazy how you know, some of these guys come up with 601 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,560 interesting, fantastic, you know, use cases, white papers 602 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,840 and they just go down the train. Yeah. 603 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,680 And that's the thing, right. So you just hit the nail on the 604 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,040 head. And what I was getting to is 605 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,920 that the real world utility is how does this business actually 606 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,400 make money, whether it's digitally or physically, how 607 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,600 does it make money? Our token holders and our 608 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,560 business is making money. Now we were able to launch our 609 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520 on chain protocol because of what we've established off chain 610 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,000 before we started our private round. 611 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,920 And we are late in launching because we've been investing in 612 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,760 technology, developing the MVP, because we've been we've gone 613 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,240 through all the trial and tribulation of early stage 614 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,160 companies as we've been raising money to fund the developments 615 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,520 that will provide the security to the ecosystem that we're 616 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,120 building. You know, and that, that has 617 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,960 been a process which you've also learned some of the problems 618 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,200 that we're trying to solve, learned of some of the problems 619 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,000 that we're trying to solve, you know, in a way that we hadn't 620 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280 considered whilst we were scoping what the opportunity 621 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400 would be, you know, in the early and the early part of our 622 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,160 journey. So, you know, the, the, the real 623 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,520 world utility, the real world assets behind what we're doing 624 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,760 provide the community with security, right? 625 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,360 But it's about how we then evolve and, and going back to 626 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,640 what I said at the beginning, it's about the, it's a change 627 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,800 that we want to bring about that we want to execute. 628 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,880 And there's three pillars to our protocol. 629 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280 The first one is AI in lending and there's a regulatory route 630 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,680 yet, which we haven't even got off the ground, which we will do 631 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,600 in year 2 for retail. It's the AI in the sales and 632 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,480 lettings process. So that speaks to 633 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,280 disintermediation. So the transition of the 634 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,680 traditional estate agent embracing AI technology. 635 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640 So that's about automation and efficiency where we are 636 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,400 trialling and developing the use case around the sale and letting 637 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,040 of our own property developments. 638 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,120 And then the third pillar is AI in a home. 639 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,160 And how does a resident occupying a new home embrace 640 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,880 that process in a really personalized, really thought 641 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,320 through way, which is about, for example, programming hardware in 642 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,320 the property for personal experience, be that boilers, hot 643 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,440 water temperatures, for example, climate control, be that energy 644 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,360 efficiency through water or energy generated through 645 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Photofare technology around the development. 646 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,199 And then being able to utilize that energy in some form of 647 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,920 trading format, which speaks to the wallet we're launching and 648 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,400 the ability to receive your credit in your wallet from the 649 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,600 energy generated within your development. 650 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,800 So the real world utility is about how we're changing the 651 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,120 idea of a living space. And then the fundamental piece, 652 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,679 which is the bit that we are also really excited about, which 653 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:37,600 becomes a mainstream activity in the fourth pillar in the second 654 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,920 year of our launch, is the opportunity to embrace a 655 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,120 different mindset for a generation of people who feel 656 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,520 they're locked out of owning a home. 657 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,239 And how we can offer a solution to home ownership that has only 658 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,760 existed with social housing and the stigma of housing 659 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,520 associations. And, and change the, the mindset 660 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,720 for a generation of people who feel like they haven't been able 661 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,240 to, to get on the property ladder and to make that 662 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,360 attainable, to make that achievable through the 663 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,920 developments that we're funding and building. 664 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,440 And that will also involve partnerships with, with many 665 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040 more developers, but we are working with a handful now in 666 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,840 the Southeast to roll that out, to develop the use case and then 667 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,480 to take that to scale. So the UK government has a 668 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,400 housing shortage of just under 1.5 million homes in the next 669 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,400 five years. And, and you know, the issue is 670 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,960 not just about planning. Let's, let's, let's be real 671 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,840 about that challenge. It's not just about the 672 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,440 bureaucracy, it's about the funding. 673 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,240 Critically, it's the, the elephant in the room. 674 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120 And there are many small, medium sized businesses in the 675 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,760 development market that can be a part of solving that problem. 676 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,600 We're focusing on the ones that are able to meet our criteria 677 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,680 for our appraisal tool in order to fund and build those 678 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,000 developments and at the same time roll out of smoke to home 679 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,480 initiatives to deliver some real tangible benefits. 680 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,720 And at the end of that, as I say, it's making those units 681 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,200 available to a demographic in society that may not have felt 682 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,480 that they could even own a home. And of course, once they're 683 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,840 embracing, most people are able to embrace the opportunity of 684 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600 owning that asset and achieving that lifelong milestone. 685 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560 Once that boxes ticks, what else can they focus on? 686 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,840 You know, at the moment, there are many young people and 687 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,160 middle-aged people that are paying rent every month and just 688 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,840 burning that money and just have no hope for the future because 689 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,520 they feel that their money is just hand to mouth every month, 690 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000 every month, every month. And that's a mindset shift that 691 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,160 has to change. And that is also what I was 692 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,760 saying to you as what we were discussing earlier. 693 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,120 It's just the mindset of corporations where it's just 694 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,200 about chasing that profit with no no regard for society. 695 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,080 So our community, our protocol, the movement that we want to 696 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,720 create is how do we rebuild literally from the bottom up and 697 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:48,480 that needs to be financed. But those 4 pillars are the very 698 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,440 basics of the mechanism that we're creating within Construct 699 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,960 Coin. And an underpinning all of that 700 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,840 is the technology of state, the on chain activity that builds 701 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,560 the integrity for us to enable other businesses to innovate on 702 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,200 our chain when we get to that point. 703 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,040 And that speaks to the latter part of our road map, which is 704 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,960 how we evolve as an organization, which I think will 705 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,040 be a conversation for another episode mainly. 706 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,440 I understand that your mission is to be the bank. 707 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,840 And what does that mean for ordinary investors and 708 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,680 entrepreneurs that are listening to us right now? 709 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,280 Yeah, really simply so as you highlighted, so we're in this 710 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,080 hundred phase presale that will start in two weeks. 711 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:33,480 That means that you can invest as much or as little in our 712 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,080 ecosystem and derive all of the benefit of crypto products, 713 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,320 which is growing in value with all of the certainty of 714 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,120 investing in real estate. That's what it means. 715 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,080 So you have the power to invest with the security of real, real 716 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:53,440 world assets backing in what we are doing through purchasing our 717 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,760 token. Simply put, you invest as much, 718 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,760 as little as you want and you're secured by real world assets 719 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,200 that's all recorded on chain. Come to our website when we 720 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,880 launch and you'll see it, I'm sure. 721 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,440 And then the choices, the choice is entirely up to you. 722 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,920 But our model is all about providing the same opportunity 723 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,240 that is until now really been available to professional 724 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:21,760 sophisticated investors, institutional investors, to 725 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,920 anybody willing to partake in supporting us building out this 726 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,800 ecosystem. Yes, please. 727 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,400 So we are construct coin with the K, So construct and coin 728 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,720 with ak.com and you will thank you for the opportunity to say 729 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:41,800 that construct coin KK for coin.com. 730 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,720 OK, that's you live at when? We'll be live in two. 731 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:51,600 You live when? Live in two weeks, 2 weeks. 732 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,520 Interesting stuff, interesting stuff. 733 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,400 So I'm going to let you go soon, but I would have to put you 734 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,600 through the Pacific Ring of Fire that is the Creek Fire round. 735 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:09,000 So give me your answers in just 10 seconds, 10 seconds, please. 736 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,640 So we're Fast forward to 10 years from now. 737 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,680 What impact do you hope that Constructoire makes in the 738 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,240 global real estate and finance space? 739 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,400 Oh wow, we want to have contributed to the housing 740 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,360 problem in the UK and to create a model that can be used 741 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,080 elsewhere in the world. OK, there you go. 742 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,960 And of course, what's the best business advice that you've ever 743 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,040 received? The journey of 1000 steps starts 744 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,040 with the first step. Take the step. 745 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,760 Oh wow, we see that a lot in Nigeria. 746 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,640 OK, so what's one book that has changed your perspective on 747 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,480 business, on life? Do you know what? 748 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,880 Someone asked me this the other day, and there's this. 749 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,320 This is the book that absolutely inspired me in my early teens. 750 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,360 It's Victor Kim, How to Be an Entrepreneur. 751 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,040 Victor Kim. He was the guy that bought 752 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,000 Remington Razor in the late 70s. Victor Kim, How to be an 753 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,280 entrepreneur. That's that's the one. 754 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,000 OK, we need to go get and grab that book AI or blockchain. 755 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,960 Which one excites you more right now? 756 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,960 Oh, well, that's that's a really loaded question given where we 757 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,600 are, but but you know which one excites me. 758 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,480 OK, do you know what the the possibilities in AI excite me, 759 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,600 but I'm mostly. Let's leave it like that because 760 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:33,960 I'm AI say no more, say no more. Don't get Andre upset. 761 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,440 So if you were beauty in construct, if you weren't beauty 762 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,040 in construct coin, what career would you be pursuing? 763 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:48,960 Oh wow, that's a rewind moment and I can hear the clock ticking 764 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,840 in the background. I. 765 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:56,200 Would be I'd probably still be in the military in some way 766 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,440 shameful form helping. OK, OK. 767 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,960 Thank you. Thank you very much, Soldier 768 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,240 Boy. Soldier Boy is has been really, 769 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:05,120 really great. Happy. 770 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,240 It's a day. And of course, Speaking of time, 771 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,200 right, there's some people say that an attitude of gratitude is 772 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,600 good attitude. And of course, when somebody 773 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,080 shares their time with you, they share their life with you 774 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,720 because the SI unit for measuring life is time. 775 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,600 And of course, love and respect to you for sharing. 776 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,920 Your time with. Us today. 777 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,840 And of course, to the audience, guys, go do the right thing. 778 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,280 I've got soldier Ball with me. If you don't share and like and 779 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,360 comment on this episode, come on, The Army is coming for you. 780 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,360 We're not. We're not sending the police to 781 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,920 you. He really doesn't mean but if I 782 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,120 always stare into the scribe right and comment. 783 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,320 Tell us what you think. But no, it's been really good to 784 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,440 to chat. Absolutely, absolutely brother. 785 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,720 Do you want to leave a shout out foot to anybody before you run? 786 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,600 Everybody that's starting their journey, that's my shot. 787 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,360 Everybody that's starting the journey, the book is yet to be 788 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,840 written. So just get started sitting 789 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,880 there wondering. Just do, just do. 790 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,440 Embrace it, go after it, just do it and enjoy the journey. 791 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,960 Enjoy the journey, just do it. Wow, I really appreciate you. 792 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,400 Like you stole my life. I appreciate you, brother. 793 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,040 You stole my life because I only see at the end of the podcast, 794 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,960 right? Everybody go for something in 795 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,280 your life, right? And of course, my buzzword, of 796 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,560 course, my line is conceive, believe, strive to thrive and of 797 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,120 course, achieve. I love guys. 798 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,560 For me it's goodbye. And of course, from the Soulja 799 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,360 Boy crease before Christ, it's it's goodbye.