1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 When's the last time you walked into a bookstore? 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,600 Specifically a children's bookstore, or maybe even the 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,360 children's section. Let's say you're looking for a 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,880 book about clean energy in the Caribbean. 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,200 Solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, maybe even nuclear. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,840 A book that reflects the islands, the culture of the 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,360 people. A book where the heroes look 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,120 like the kids reading it. Now imagine having that 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:36,560 realization that that book doesn't exist, and instead of 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,800 walking away, you decide. I guess I'll write it. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,480 I used to love Captain Planet so much as a child growing up 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,440 trying to save the planet with the powers combined. 13 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:49,680 Imagine if we have all these clean and resources working 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,880 together. We need to be very 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,920 representational of the Caribbean culture, spirit and 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,080 people. Today's guest did exactly that. 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Me Zola Hein, a Jamaican born. Computer scientist turned. 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,200 Nuclear engineering PhD researcher at Bangor University 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,240 and the author of Island Energy Superhero, A kids Guide to 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,880 energies in the Caribbean, a book that's already landing at 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,080 schools, bookstores and even in the airport in Kingston. 22 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,760 This episode is about representation, science 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,480 communication, failing forward and building an energy literate 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,880 Caribbean one child at a time. So let's get. 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,800 Started how did. The vision for this book come 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,280 about. The history or the vision behind 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,960 the Island Energy book came across when I just started my 28 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:50,240 PhD in my first year. I was very curious as to nuclear 29 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,280 energy being used in the Caribbean, if any. 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,840 I was also trying to find out different sources just to 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,080 understand the material to do the research, something that's 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,400 very simplified. And I notice that yes, we do use 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,479 nuclear in the Caribbean. There's actually the island slab 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,520 in Jamaica out by the Imona campus, and they use it for 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,200 medicinal purposes also in the agricultural sector for nuclear 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,040 forensics using neutrons. However, we haven't been able to 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,560 use nuclear energy in the Caribbean. 38 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,640 And I don't know if you've seen in the news a big thrust of 39 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:35,400 Rolls Royce and the SMRS. And so now persons are looking 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,000 to energy all across the world. Recently, Jamaica even signed a 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,440 memorandum of understanding with Canada to look into setting up 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,840 nuclear power generation in the Caribbean. 43 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,240 My interest in starting the book was thinking about how will 44 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,680 parents be able to explain this new concept, this new source 45 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,600 that's been added to or could be added to our energy grid? 46 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 How will they be able to explain it to their children children, 47 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,600 and will they even understand it themselves? 48 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:14,840 So I was there having this idea in mind, and I reached out to a 49 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,760 publisher and we were basically looking around, doing some 50 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,400 research, seeing if there are other books that covered energy 51 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,960 in the Caribbean or looked at clean energy overall. 52 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,160 And to our surprise, there wasn't anything like this 53 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,720 available. So the idea was, let's try to 54 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,640 create a book that introduced all these concepts in a very 55 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,920 simple way of what is clean energy, the different types that 56 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,640 are currently being used and also nuclear energy as an energy 57 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,200 source that will be introduced to the future. 58 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,640 So this book, the Island energy book, the superhero energies 59 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,240 that for the Caribbean is now available for children and 60 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,760 parents to learn more about different kinds of clean energy 61 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,240 sources. This is currently being used in 62 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:10,560 the Caribbean, such as solar, geothermal, wind, hydroelectric 63 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,080 energy and the introduction of nuclear. 64 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,360 When Zola began her PhD, she searched for simple explanations 65 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,839 about nuclear and clean energy in the Caribbean, something 66 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,640 parents could use to explain a rapidly changing energy 67 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,280 landscape to their kids. She found Advanced Research 68 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,680 papers, technical reports, scattered examples of nuclear 69 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,040 applications in agriculture and medicine. 70 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,760 But there were no children's books, nothing that represented 71 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,160 Caribbean identity, Caribbean imagery. 72 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,520 So she reached out to. A publisher. 73 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,120 Together they. Realized they had something, a 74 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,760 vibrant, superhero driven way to explain energy systems to kids 75 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,560 to the adults who raised them. So think back to your own 76 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,280 childhood. When did you first learn what 77 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,280 energy was? Did anybody ever show you 78 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:05,560 diagrams of solar farms, or talk about nuclear medicine, or 79 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,280 explain why electricity bills rise and fall? 80 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Most of us didn't get that education until adulthood. 81 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,240 If ever. Zola's book wasn't just about 82 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,840 clean energy. It was deeply tied to her 83 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:21,880 journey, one that didn't start in nuclear. 84 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,040 At all. So how does someone go from 85 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,000 computer science and data visualization to simulating 86 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,600 nuclear fuel behavior? Well, I'd like to say that 87 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,800 nuclear engineering shows me because I really love computer 88 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,920 science. I love working with computers. 89 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,840 I also really love doing visualizations. 90 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,320 A big part of my master's dissertation was visualizing 91 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,440 data sets, and the opportunity presented itself for me to 92 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,680 visualize nuclear data in a way that's never been done before. 93 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,760 I didn't really have a nuclear background, but I thoroughly 94 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,200 enjoyed physics, you know, thanks to my teacher, Mr. 95 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,920 Goodnight, Glenmere High School, you know, really fell in love 96 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,240 with physics and you know, it would be a great opportunity to 97 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,360 continue with that. So I took the leap. 98 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,760 My master's dissertation was looking at how different 99 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:25,680 research papers use colors in visualization charts and bars. 100 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,800 That was pretty cool. Analyzing from medical journals 101 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,520 or engineering journals and creating a how to guide for 102 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,400 persons in the research field what colors are recommended 103 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,480 based on historical data. So that's one way in which I've 104 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,160 used data and I found that really awesome. 105 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,920 It was great to work with that data set now in nuclear, using 106 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:55,400 experimental data to predict the behavior of the fuel in the 107 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,760 reactor. Propel Research and innovation. 108 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:04,200 I was at the end of completing the masters and literally there 109 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,560 was just a blast e-mail saying that I didn't even know my 110 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,400 university had a nuclear institute. 111 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,600 They were congratulating someone and saying that they have 112 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,920 opportunities. I thought I'm looking for 113 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,800 opportunities. So I reached out to the director 114 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,400 and went in and had a lovely chat. 115 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Went around and saw the labs and it just carried me back to high 116 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,880 school. Some of the things we were 117 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,880 talking about that I learned in physics, hearing about different 118 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,200 concepts from chemistry. I've, I've been doing so many 119 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,880 things in computer science. I was just like, this would be 120 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,560 great to broaden my scope and try and see how it goes because 121 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,600 it sounds like a mammoth task. But if he thinks I have the 122 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,360 capability and the skills to do this, then who am I to say no in 123 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,600 that way? I, I say nuclear chose me and 124 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,560 I've had really good support, even though sometimes when I 125 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,760 speak, I'm very surprised by myself. 126 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,200 You know, I'm saying, Oh my gosh, actually know this thing. 127 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,040 It's been interesting. It's been a true growth 128 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,200 opportunity. I can say when I told my friends 129 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,440 and family, they were not surprised. 130 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,080 It wasn't a question of can I do it? 131 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,600 It's like she's going to do it. They know I'm always up to 132 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,480 something, to be honest, always putting myself out there, trying 133 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,680 new things, trying to live life fully. 134 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,679 I had tremendous support from friends and family back home and 135 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,720 even here in the UK. It's been so good in terms of 136 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,200 support within the university from my supervisors, from my 137 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,360 industry partners sending me on trainings, making sure that I, 138 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,520 you know, have to have access to any resource and every resource 139 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,480 that would help me improve and make progress throughout the 140 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,560 research. Zola didn't plan on nuclear 141 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,960 engineering. She loved computer science, 142 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,200 visualization, and the challenge of turning messy data into 143 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,280 meaningful insights. But an unexpected e-mail from 144 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,840 her university celebrating a nuclear institute she didn't 145 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,400 even know existed sparked something new. 146 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,960 She met with the director, the labs, and suddenly the physics 147 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,560 she loved in high school came rushing back. 148 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,280 And she kept showing up. Somewhere along the way she 149 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,600 surprised herself. And that got me thinking, when's 150 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,240 the last time you were pulled in the direction of your curiosity? 151 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,600 Somewhere you didn't expect to go? 152 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Because what Zola did next, bringing her love of 153 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,880 visualization into nuclear fuel modeling, is a perfect example 154 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,720 of how non traditional backgrounds strengthen the 155 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,920 nuclear field. So I would say that my research 156 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:58,120 mostly looks at a novel method. Traditionally to visualize the 157 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,640 performance of the fuel in the reactor, we use mesh based 158 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,680 techniques. My research currently is a more 159 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:10,240 meshless technique and it's actually coming from astronomy, 160 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,040 so it's never been used in nuclear industry before. 161 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,120 And so even that's within itself, trying to verify the 162 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,000 method, try to validate the method and making sure that it 163 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,880 is at the correct standards and the acceptable standards for 164 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,040 academia so that you know this is reliable. 165 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,920 So you know that you know, we can trust this information and 166 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,680 how it is presented, the standards and seeing how best I 167 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:44,240 can get the good quality information from very reliable 168 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 sources. It does take its time, but it's 169 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,800 been so great, especially working with persons and 170 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,040 speaking to persons who do more experimental work and trying to 171 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,160 see how best I can properly understand the information that 172 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,760 they give and that I read an extract from other research 173 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,760 papers so that I can properly fit my model and get it to 174 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,960 simulate the behaviors that are needed to predict something 175 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,920 novel. The best way to explain it is 176 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,080 how my supervisor really reiterates a lot. 177 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,800 We are on the beach, on the sand, looking out into the sea 178 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,000 and we don't really have an idea of what's out there, so we just 179 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,920 have to take it a step at a time. 180 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,720 Sometimes you think innovation is changing a lot of things and 181 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,320 seeing how it happens, but sometimes it can just be 182 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:41,320 tweaking 1 parameter or one aspect and just seeing how that 183 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,520 affects the whole. Doing some in depth analysis, 184 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,320 sensitivity analysis to see what variables, how it affects it, 185 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,480 what can be changed, how just a little thing can make such a big 186 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,080 impact. And for me that is the 187 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,320 scientific research, doing little tweaks and seeing the 188 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,080 impact. Sometimes it is colossal, 189 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,720 sometimes it is minute, but you have to start from what you know 190 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,680 or what is known and then slowly venturing to the unknown. 191 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,200 And, you know, sometimes there are persons who have gone ahead 192 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,080 and done something similar to you. 193 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,360 So it's always good to try to do as much research as possible to 194 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,360 see what's already been done. Try to understand your method, 195 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,120 try to understand the mistakes and the limitations of what's 196 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,280 been done before so that you can say, OK, maybe I could try to 197 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,800 tweak this instead, or I'll tweak this in a different way 198 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,680 and see what the result is. That is the innovation, I think, 199 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,760 that is applied in scientific research. 200 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,280 Most of us think visualizing data means bar charts or line 201 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,400 graphs. But Zola's work goes deeper, 202 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,760 much deeper, Using methods barred from astronomy to 203 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,640 visualize nuclear fuel behaviors in ways the industry has never 204 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,520 tried before. She studies how to validate 205 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,480 novel mesh free visualization techniques. 206 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,720 She analyzes experimental data. She runs simulations that help 207 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,960 us understand what the fuel is doing inside a reactor, 208 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:21,440 information that influences safety, performance, and design. 209 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,040 Her background in color theory, visual communication, and even 210 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,000 the psychology of how humans interpret shapes and gradients 211 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,080 give her a unique perspective on nuclear data, one the field 212 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,280 desperately needs. So with this scientific 213 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,400 foundation, how do you turn energy into a story, one that 214 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Caribbean children can see themselves inside? 215 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,320 Having sat down and I spoke with Cabrina, the manager and 216 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,000 director of Eva Michelle Publishing, responsible for 217 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,280 publishing the book. We sat and we were literally on 218 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,880 the same page. Both Jamaicans are just like, 219 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,040 OK, this book needs to represent the Caribbean, so we need to 220 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,520 make the graphics visually capture in the Caribbean 221 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:13,120 essence, spirit and culture. I was like, for sure, we have to 222 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,960 make it be that true representation of the melting 223 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,880 pot that we are. So the characters need to be 224 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,160 very representative of the diversity in the Caribbean. 225 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,560 And then we both agreed we love Justice League and Captain 226 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,960 Planet. I used to love Captain Planet so 227 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,960 much as a child growing up trying to save the planet with 228 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,400 the powers combined. And I think it's the same 229 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,680 strategy here with the Island Energy book. 230 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Imagine if we have all these clean energy sources working 231 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,320 together, how valuable it would be to the Reach on how 232 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,360 sustainably it would be as well. So the concept behind it was OK, 233 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,320 We need to be very representational of the 234 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Caribbean culture, spirit and people. 235 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,280 And also we need to make it fun. And what's more fun than having 236 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,680 superheroes? So recently I was able to get 237 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,400 the book brailled and I did a book reading at the Salvation 238 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Army School for the Blind and Visually Impaired. 239 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,640 So that was good. I had a regular coffee of the 240 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,280 book, had it in large print and also had it Braille and everyone 241 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,280 could be a part of the conversation. 242 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,040 No one was missing out. So things like those mean 243 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:34,720 inclusive, you know. Each superhero embodies a clean 244 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,440 energy source, solar, hydro, wind, geothermal and nuclear, 245 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,440 combining forces to protect the islands. 246 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,920 Kids immediately recognize themselves in the characters. 247 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,600 Teachers loved it. Parents learned things they've 248 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,120 never been taught. In one of the most touching 249 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,200 moments, Zola had the book printed in Braille so visually 250 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,720 impaired students could join the conversation, too. 251 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Representation isn't a buzzword. It shapes who we believe we can 252 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,760 become. Imagine being 8 years old, 253 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,120 living through a Category 5 hurricane to hit your island and 254 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,480 learning that you can be a part of the energy solution. 255 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,320 This story is much bigger than a book. 256 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,720 It ties into real energy challenges and opportunities in 257 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,440 the Caribbean. Growing up in Jamaica, one of 258 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,520 the most expensive bills that my mom had to cover for us was the 259 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,560 energy bill. You know, many people always on 260 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,480 the news saying, you know, even persons from the manufacturing 261 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,880 sector, you know, they wish they could do more, but the energy 262 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,360 bill is so high. So persons turn to doing 263 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,120 different things, whether it's like using more smart devices so 264 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,680 that they can lower energy consumption, just adopting as 265 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,440 many different principles and techniques to try to lower the 266 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,440 bill. If we can personally try to 267 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,880 invest in clean energy sources and utilize solar because we are 268 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,079 so blessed in the Caribbean with sunshine. 269 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Even after the hurricane, the sun came out and that was a 270 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,480 blessing to help persons rebuild. 271 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,480 The resources are there and naturally available in the 272 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Caribbean. Again, very blessed where we are 273 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:25,079 in the region to access geothermal energy, the sun, 274 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,920 water, wind and in the future nuclear as well. 275 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,480 I've been doing a few in person and virtual book readings. 276 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,880 It's a surprising especially when I see that children have 277 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,480 covered the topic of energy previously in class, but they 278 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,040 probably didn't go in depth looking at the different kinds 279 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,040 of energy. It's always so, you know, 280 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,440 they're very animated. They are saying, Oh my gosh, 281 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,520 this superhero looks like me. No, it looks like Chantelle. 282 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,840 No, it looks like Mark and which superhero they want to be 283 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,800 because they want that power. And you'd be reading and just 284 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,440 see how engaged the teachers are as well. 285 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,240 And also you can see as well, parents who bought the book, the 286 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,080 feedback is they read it. They enjoyed it too because they 287 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,320 didn't know any of this information themselves. 288 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,080 I love that. It's such a great learning 289 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,640 opportunity, opportunity for not just children, but adults as 290 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,800 well. The book has been available in 291 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:33,200 the Cosy Kids Bookstore in Kingston and they also have a 292 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,480 branch in Falmouth in Jamaica. It's available online on Amazon. 293 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,600 You can order from Walmart, Barnes and Nobles as well. 294 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,800 It is available at the Norman Manley Airport in Kingston. 295 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,240 Passing through, there's a things Jamaica also at the Devon 296 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,200 House Ice cream stop if everybody loves to get ice cream 297 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,400 and you know where it is in Kingston to get your copy of the 298 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Island Energy book. The reception has been great and 299 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,520 the support and the love and just the appreciation for a book 300 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,000 like this has been overwhelming. I think my aspiration would be 301 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,840 to see more collaboration. If we truly come together within 302 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,040 the region and try to utilize the resources collectively, it 303 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,800 would be beneficial for all in terms of applying for climate 304 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:30,080 grants or trying to whether it's from like commercial residents 305 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,040 or for industry. I think working together is 306 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,040 always best and we can achieve even more. 307 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,920 It would be great to see all the nations within the Caribbean 308 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,560 coming together accessing grants or putting in proposals and 309 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,040 actually building out the infrastructure needed to support 310 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,720 different clean energy sources because we are naturally blessed 311 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,080 and we are under utilizing the resources and it's a pain. 312 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,600 It's very sad to see and persons are at the end of the day 313 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,320 suffering for it. You don't have access to energy 314 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,320 and everyone needs energy. It's all around us and we need 315 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,160 it everyday in daily life. Growing up in Jamaica, Zola saw 316 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,080 first hand how high energy bills shaped daily life and how storms 317 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,880 expose the fragility of island infrastructure. 318 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,760 The Caribbean is blessed with natural resources, sun, wind, 319 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,840 heat, water and now potentially nuclear energy. 320 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,080 But these resources are underutilized. 321 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Infrastructure is aging, and resilience, especially after 322 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,160 hurricanes, is critical. Zola's hope? 323 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,160 Greater regional collaboration, shared infrastructure, 324 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,720 collective climate grants, unified energy strategies, and 325 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,040 an approach to clean energy that gives everyone from 326 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,520 manufacturing to agriculture to families rebuilding after a 327 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,000 storm. So what does energy justice mean 328 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,240 in your hometown, your region, or your community? 329 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Who gets left behind when these systems fail, and who gets 330 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,520 prioritized when they need to recover? 331 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:18,480 Because Zola's commitment to inclusion and resilience doesn't 332 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,120 stop with her research, it shapes how she approaches 333 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,600 learning itself. I'll definitely be working in 334 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:32,000 the energy space, advocating for accessibility and inclusion in 335 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,600 the discussion of energy and climate in climate change, 336 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,360 climate resilience. This is something that I am very 337 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,320 passionate about. I have to say, shout out to 338 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:47,160 Girls Care, which is an organization that kind of helped 339 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,360 me start this journey of making the Caribbean more climate 340 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:57,000 resilient and sustainable. So that for me is just a 341 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,240 continuing what I've started building on this and trying to 342 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,280 see how much more of an impact and change I can make. 343 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,680 And for our audience, I wanted to ask solo. 344 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,320 What advice does Zola have to help out when you might need a 345 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,400 little? Push or encouragement? 346 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,920 I would say definitely lean on your support system. 347 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,760 Don't be afraid to tap into that. 348 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,720 I would also say don't be afraid to ask questions. 349 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,920 If you don't understand and you really want to do something, 350 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,840 just put yourself out there. If you are trying to help 351 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,880 yourself and others see you trying to make an effort then 352 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,840 they will help you too. That's literally what's helped 353 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,680 me so far. It's OK with being an 354 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,600 impossible, you don't know everything and that is fine. 355 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Be very comfortable sometimes with not being the smartest 356 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,200 person in the room because that gives you an opportunity to grow 357 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,240 and learn. It's really just an amazing 358 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,600 thing because you get to learn so much. 359 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,680 That would be my. Advice. 360 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:08,120 Many times, and it could be whether you are brave enough to 361 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:12,440 ask the question in front of others or you reach out to your 362 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,000 teacher or lecture and say can I have 5 minutes at the time that 363 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000 is convenient to you just to get some clarification on things I 364 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,440 did not understand. I've done that so many times. 365 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,040 I'm so comfortable now with just asking. 366 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,280 I know that persons will be more happy to help. 367 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,720 So yeah, just ask. So yeah, just ask. 368 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,920 Don't be afraid to ask or lean on your fellow students or 369 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,720 classmates, those who know a little bit more than you 370 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,960 understand the topic better. Just go and ask and more than 371 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,520 likely people will assist. Zola's philosophy is simple. 372 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,360 Fail forward, ask questions, lean on your support system, 373 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,360 don't pretend to know something you don't, and don't fear being 374 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,880 the least knowledgeable person in the room because that's where 375 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,440 growth happens. Her advice is crying it out, 376 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,720 venting, regrouping and trying again. 377 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,440 Asking for 5 minutes with a lecturer. 378 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,360 Reaching out to classmates with more experience. 379 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,000 Building resilience, one question at a time. 380 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,880 Because if kids can't see themselves as these resilient 381 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,040 students who become energy superheroes, what happens to 382 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,080 them when they grow up? And now it's time for our rapid 383 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,280 fire questions. So the first one is, do you have 384 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,280 any hobbies? I love going out to the beach. 385 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,200 I love eating, going to a nice restaurant. 386 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,920 Those would be my tops. I love listening to music 387 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,520 dancing. Your hobbies feel very Jamaican 388 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,560 because I love all of those things as well. 389 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,840 I was like beach food and dancing. 390 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,480 Yeah, sign me up. If you had to give a Ted talk or 391 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,360 a speech, that's not nuclear or computer. 392 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,240 Science related. What would? 393 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,240 You give it on. I think it would be failing 394 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,960 forward. Many things I am no expert in, 395 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,200 but I try and I fail so that that would be my. 396 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,640 That's great, I guess. When you do. 397 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Fail. Or like when anybody fails, how 398 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,120 do you emotionally recover from that? 399 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:25,800 Because I think that maybe is one of the reasons why people 400 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,360 just stop after they fail. How do you build that resilience 401 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,560 muscle? You have to process it the best 402 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,800 way you can. If it means you have to stop and 403 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,600 cry, then you go again. In there. 404 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,760 Reach out to someone to vent, share your frustration, try to 405 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,720 journal and look at the positives that happened during 406 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,160 that event. Do whatever works for you, but 407 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,240 try again. I love that. 408 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,080 So yeah, make sure you get it all out emotionally. 409 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,160 Dust yourself off and get back out there. 410 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,160 If there is one place you think everybody should visit, whether 411 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,480 it's a beach, a restaurant, a dance, like where? 412 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Where should people go? I think everyone should go to 413 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Jamaica. It's amazing. 414 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,640 I am very proud of my country. There's so many amazing things 415 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,800 from the beaches, the food, the people, the events. 416 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,280 There's something there for everyone to enjoy. 417 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,680 Jamaica is amazing if you haven't been used to go. 418 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,280 Yeah, I definitely got to go back. 419 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,920 Do you have a? Favorite Jamaican food that you 420 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,280 absolutely love? The hard one because I had to 421 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,200 think about this for a while myself. 422 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600 There's so many. I do love a good sweet potato 423 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,600 pudding Christmas time and the Christmas cake. 424 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,200 You know, mango season, the jewelry, mango the fruits, the 425 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,000 vegetables, the Curry, the party. 426 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,040 So. The answer is there is no 427 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,400 answer. There is no favorite. 428 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,840 I think by quantity it's a toss up between beef patties. 429 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Like if you sat me down in front of a. 100 of them. 430 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,040 I could handle them just like a fresh mango like could also just 431 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,480 so many of them. Last question, if you had to 432 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,400 build and design the city of the future, what would that look 433 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,120 like to you? Well, first of all, it would be 434 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,040 a city filled with diverse clean energy sources like in the 435 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,080 Island Energy book, for sure. My future city would definitely 436 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,440 be a space that is very innovative. 437 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:44,160 It would be very inclusive, you know, and it would just be a 438 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,480 city that there's collaboration in every way, so no one gets 439 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,360 left behind, no one is excluded, and everyone benefits. 440 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,800 And I think that's what the city should be like. 441 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Everyone should be positively impacted and positively 442 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,000 contributing. Amazing. 443 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,240 If you're ever running for office, let me know. 444 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,560 I'll be on your campaign. Just tell me where to sign up. 445 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840 OK. So we talked about the places 446 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,720 that we can find the island energy. 447 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,200 Superhero book, we said. Amazon if we're. 448 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,120 Out in Jamaica, it's in the. Airport as well. 449 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,400 Do you guys have a website? The Island Energy website is 450 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:31,400 also available, so it's the Island Energy book dot my dot 451 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,200 Canva dot site to it gives all the resources. 452 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,600 You can see interviews, articles as well. 453 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,400 And in the future, hopefully, maybe there are some fun games 454 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,800 to come and activities that you can access. 455 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,640 After her PhD, Zola plans to stay in the energy sector, 456 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,640 advocating for accessibility, climate resilience, and regional 457 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,440 collaboration. She's shaping future policy 458 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,680 leaders, researchers, engineers and curious young minds. 459 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,480 Outreach are all a part of the bigger mission to make sure no 460 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,680 one gets left behind in the energy transition. 461 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:15,720 My final message would be find something that you love and work 462 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,680 towards it. Do the best that you can to make 463 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400 a valuable contribution. So at the end of the day, you 464 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,520 can look back and have no regrets. 465 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,760 You can say, you know, I contributed to this and it 466 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,960 positively impacts someone's life. 467 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,400 Maybe you won't know in what way, but in all things just do 468 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,320 the best that you can. My mom always said if you are 469 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,280 going to be a street sweeper, be the best St. sweeper. 470 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,320 Just give the best effort that you can and it will be 471 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,920 reflected. Zola, we want to thank you for 472 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,360 creating a book that didn't exist until you imagined it, for 473 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,080 showing kids the future of energy belongs to them, and for 474 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,480 reminding all of us that curiosity paired with courage is 475 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,840 a superpower. You can find Island Energy Super 476 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,160 Hero on Amazon, Walmart, Barnes and Noble, in Jamaican 477 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,480 bookstores, and at the Kingston Airport. 478 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,880 We'll have the links in the show notes. 479 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,280 If you enjoyed this episode, share it with someone who needs 480 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,560 a reminder that they're capable of more than they think. 481 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,800 And I wanted to thank you so much for listening to Season 2 482 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,680 of Naked Nuclear. And I just wanted to say this 483 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,280 season was super exciting for me to create. 484 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,160 Because we looked at. Where people first got. 485 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Curious about nuclear? Sometimes it was a class, a 486 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:47,520 podcast, a headline, a teacher. Season 2 has been about the 487 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,160 moment someone decides to take the step forward. 488 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Not about megawatts or containment domes, but about 489 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,520 people pathways. About the very real. 490 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,160 Human journey into one of the most powerful industries on 491 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,720 earth and. What we discovered. 492 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800 Is this there isn't one way into nuclear? 493 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,120 There are dozens. We highlighted Marcellus Boykin 494 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,960 at the Georgia Institute of Technology, a football player 495 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,440 and math major, turd mechanical engineer, then nuclear PhD 496 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,120 student. He openly talked about his 497 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,120 imposter syndrome walking into Idaho National Laboratory 498 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,120 wondering if he belonged. But he did the thing anyway, 499 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,520 showed up, asked questions, built relationships, and that's 500 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,400 how careers in nuclear begin. We got to chat with Doctor Fiona 501 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,680 Raymond, who gave us a Longview perspective on leadership, 502 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,120 diversity, responsibility, and why culture inside of this 503 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880 industry matters as much as the technology. 504 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,840 We stopped by BWXT and chatted with Bob Duffy, who showed us 505 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,520 the world of advanced manufacturing and welding. 506 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,480 What it takes? To build precision instruments 507 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,280 and when there was a shortage of welders. 508 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,600 Decided that BWXT was. Going to take the reins and 509 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,880 create a program to train more. And getting into nuclear doesn't 510 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,720 necessarily mean a PhD. When we chatted with Kelly Davis 511 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,520 at Cape Fear Community College, we explored something incredibly 512 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,840 important. Two year programs, 513 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280 certifications and technical pathways. 514 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,080 There are numerous ways for students to become operators, 515 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,320 maintenance technicians, instrumentation specialist. 516 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,480 These are high skilled, high impact careers and they are 517 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,400 absolutely essential. Meeting with Doctor Arturo 518 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Dominguez at Princeton Plasma Physics Lab, we sat down and 519 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,360 zoomed in on fusion, plasma physics, diagnostics, the 520 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,920 frontier of science, different technology, but same curiosity. 521 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,280 Education is just the starting point for the number one 522 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,560 University of Nuclear Engineering, University of 523 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,160 Michigan. We spoke with Doctor Todd Allen 524 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320 about how universities are preparing students not just to 525 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,960 understand reactors, but the big picture for them. 526 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,600 Not just to focus on math, but be holistic students 527 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,160 understanding why art is just as important. 528 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,160 We heard from PhD candidates Ryan Zerpa and Sarah Cole about 529 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,880 how to earn scholarships as well as follow your curiosities and 530 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,760 passions. We got to. 531 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,520 Explore maritime Nuclear with Doctor Rory Megginson and Toby 532 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,200 Menzies at Core Power. Floating nuclear power plants, 533 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,600 nuclear powered shipping, new workforce pipelines. 534 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,040 They're not just building the technology, they're building the 535 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,120 training programs, academic partnerships, and industry 536 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,360 networks. We learned that just because 537 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,040 you're quote UN quote, not good at math doesn't mean you can't 538 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,960 be an engineer. We sat down with Veronica Anila, 539 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,400 who started the nuclear advocacy resource organization Narrow at 540 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,600 Texas A&M University. Veronica reminds us that 541 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,920 education isn't confined to classrooms. 542 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,920 It's advocacy communication, making nuclear understandable to 543 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,280 communities who may have never stepped inside a reactive 544 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,639 building. And here's what I love most 545 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,719 about this season. Every guest said some. 546 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,440 Version of the same thing. Reach out, send the e-mail, 547 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,280 apply for the internship, show up to office hours. 548 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,679 Ask the question. Connect on LinkedIn The nuclear 549 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:38,280 industry is relationship driven, and the barrier to entry is much 550 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,560 smaller than you think. If you're listening and 551 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,239 wondering whether you belong in nuclear, you do. 552 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,080 If you're thinking about pivoting, you can and if. 553 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,800 You're already a. Seasoned veteran? 554 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,760 Bring someone else with you. Consider being a mentor because 555 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,080 that's how industries grow. Season 2 has been about entry 556 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,680 points, but now we zoom out because education is the 557 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,120 foundation. But the next question is how do 558 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920 we even build the thing? Next season? 559 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,200 We're following the entire arc of construction from idea to 560 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,240 operation. We're sitting down with Bechtel, 561 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:21,560 GE, Verdova, Rano, Paragon and more companies across the supply 562 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,360 chain. We'll be exploring licensing and 563 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,480 site selection, manufacturing and fuel fabrication, workforce 564 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,960 coordination and operation. What it really takes to bring 565 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,800 gigawatts online. So. 566 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,400 We want to say thank you to every student who share their 567 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,280 journey, to every professor who opened their lab, to every 568 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,600 professional who answered questions generously. 569 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,360 Thank you for making Nuclear feel a little more human. 570 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,600 And if something sparked your curiosity this season, act on 571 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,680 it. Reach out to someone, have the 572 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,360 conversation. The industry is growing and the 573 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,280 space is here. Thank you so much for listening 574 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,200 to Season 2 of Naked Nuclear. It was all about learning, but 575 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,800 Season 3 is about building, and we're just getting started. 576 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,800 Until next time, stay curious.