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Hey everyone, welcome to stepmom
side chats. 

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We are your hosts. 
Alyssa and Rebecca. 

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Two stepmoms who are done 
pretending everything's perfect.

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This is where we talk. 
Boundaries, Co parenting, hard 

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truths, healing and the stuff. 
Nobody. 

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Says out loud. 
If you're ready for real talk, 

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real growth. 
And a little bit of. 

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Spice. 
Let's get into it. 

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Hello, hello, welcome back to 
another episode of Stepmom. 

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How are you doing today? 
Hi, I'm good welcome, I'm 

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currently drinking my breakfast 
so. 

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We're dealing. 
What's your breakfast? 

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Iced coffee. 
This is my go to. 

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Need and thrive off coffee. 
Oh my gosh, you don't eat like. 

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A real breakfast. 
No, Send all the haters my way. 

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I don't eat breakfast. 
I'm too. 

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Busy like every other week I 
have. 

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Four children to get out the 
door. 

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I'm lucky if I get comfy. 
No, I know it's like a 

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necessity. 
To at least have the. 

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Coffee. 
But yeah, no, I'm so busy I feel

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like I'm. 
Just so stressed all the. 

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Time. 
But you know, what can you do? 

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What can you do? 
Anything new with you? 

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This week. 
It's transition day again. 

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People are going to start. 
Learning my new pattern, but 

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this is another new transition. 
Day, so we're dealing with all 

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the fields. 
Again, we have our transition 

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days are more frequent now, if 
you can't tell. 

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So that's what kind of bugging 
me, but I want to get into the. 

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Source of all of our issues. 
Yes. 

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Who is the culprit? 
No it's not bio mom. 

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But actually, that's the real 
culprit. 

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No, no, no, no, guys. 
It's our husbands, the spouses. 

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And. 
Partners. 

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You know, fiance's, whatever. 
You call it. 

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We are. 
Digging into those relationships

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that are just driving us crazy. 
Yes, why are? 

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We in this situation to begin 
with, you know. 

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Yeah, that the typical, you 
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Why? 
Why did you guys? 

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Complain. 
Why are you complaining? 

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You know what? 
You signed up. 

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For you chose this life. 
I'm so sick of seeing those 

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comments and hearing that I 
can't even. 

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So no, we didn't sign up for 
this. 

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We didn't know we. 
Got ourselves into, but let's 

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talk about our spouses. 
And when our spouses. 

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Really get it? 
And. 

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When they really don't get it. 
We this week did have. 

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Some bio dads. 
Reach out to us. 

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Which I love and asking, you 
know, how they can support their

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wives and I'm like, well, you 
can direct her our way, but this

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one is. 
Really for this episode's for 

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the husbands too, so wives or. 
Stepmoms, you know, Share this 

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with your partner. 
Share this with your spouse. 

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This is directed towards them. 
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No, definitely, definitely. 
Well, let's start with talking 

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about, I guess times when we've 
been really feeling supported by

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our husbands and then times when
we feel alone because I think 

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it's going to probably look 
maybe similar or different for 

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both of us. 
I don't know. 

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You go first. 
OK, so I will say. 

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I've talked on this before. 
We have a lot of issues. 

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On transition day, the days. 
Usually it's the day before so. 

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You know, in the side chats, 
Becca, I'm always texting you 

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saying guess what today is? 
And she's like the day before 

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transition day, like godspeed, 
sending wine, you know, all the 

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things. 
So we do have. 

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Issues the day before transition
day where, you know, my husband,

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he goes through the things and 
it's totally understandable and 

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totally normal. 
But I'm going through all the 

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things too, and that's when I'm 
feeling less supportive, and I 

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know a lot of stepmoms can. 
Relate to this because the bio 

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dads don't. 
Understand the gravity of how we

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are carrying these burdens. 
And they think, you know, maybe 

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it's not their kids. 
They don't feel the same like 

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attachment and the same 
excitement when they come. 

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And it might be. 
True, but. 

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You have to understand that we 
also didn't sign up for this and

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so this drama is also not our 
own, but we take it on for. 

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Ourselves. 
So where I lose? 

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That sense of. 
Support is the parts of the 

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weeks where he's in his fields. 
And I'm also in my fields 

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because we're in different 
feelings and I think he expects 

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me to feel the same way he does 
and I just don't. 

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And so that's when we kind of 
butt heads and. 

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No, I think that's pretty 
similar for me as well. 

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It's like, not that there's not 
any part of me that's. 

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Excited. 
It's just like we've talked 

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about before, it's just the 
whole vibe of the home changes, 

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just like. 
If you know when you had, you 

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know your son recently and 
that's your bio son, your vibe 

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of your home changed once he was
born. 

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However, from a stepmom 
perspective, these aren't our 

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bio kids, so we don't have that 
like unconditional love all the 

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time. 
I thought we. 

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Do for our step kid or for our 
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Kids and so I don't know, it's 
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with. 
Our bio kids, it's like. 

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You make it work no matter what,
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We do for our step kids too. 
But when they come into the 

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home, it changes the family 
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You know when my stepson comes. 
He's the. 

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Older brother to my youngest, so
my youngest, he's not an only 

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child anymore and so he has to 
share all of a sudden. 

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He has to share the. 
Attention between me and my 

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husband. 
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Has to share his toys. 
And so the dynamic just shifts. 

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And so like you. 
Said I sometimes will get like. 

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Anxious or just? 
I don't know, just feel. 

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Stressed before, whereas the 
opposite. 

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It's like he. 
Feels more excited, you know, 

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and. 
We butt heads like that. 

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Too sometimes. 
I think it's gotten better over 

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the years, but yeah. 
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Will say we both said that we 
butt heads. 

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I think the deep. 
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And we both kind of come to 
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This over a few years is that 
it's a deep set. 

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In resentment, and not in the 
bitter, angry way, but it's like

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a resentment of, you know, so. 
So let's just put this. 

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Resentment is an unmet. 
Need that stays stays quiet. 

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Too long. 
So what I see? 

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In my relationship is that if 
one issue keeps popping up if 

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it's something around the kids 
or something around you know the

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pickup date or location or 
something around bio mom and her

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communication with us. 
If we keep. 

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Hounding, you know, the same 
topic over and over and I'm 

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trying to get my point across 
and he is maybe not acting on it

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or, you know, doing what I've 
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That builds A resentment to me. 
And I then kind of resent the 

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whole situation because he isn't
fixing in my eyes, the one thing

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that I'm asking him to work on 
or like help me fix. 

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And that happens a lot because 
we have so many issues and it's 

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just like that one, just. 
Gets. 

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Rushed under the rug when the 
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If the step kids are. 
Here all of a sudden and they're

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talking about something bio mom 
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And then there's a new issue 
arising in the house and it's 

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like, oh. 
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If it's not one thing, it's 
another, and it's one after 

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another after another where? 
You could put these. 

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Down in your notes, in your 
phone, then you really will have

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resentment because then later 
you look at these to bring up to

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your spouse and you're like, I 
have so many issues and they're 

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all because of. 
Like your ex and your kids. 

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And so that's like a really bad 
way to. 

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Get into a low pit of 
resentment, do you? 

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Deal with a lot of. 
Resentment to or like that 

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underlying like need that is 
unmet. 

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Yeah, and I think you and I can 
both. 

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Agree that we dealt. 
With it more heavily in the 

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beginning and then it goes and 
ebbs and flows right? 

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Like sometimes you'll feel more 
resentful and sometimes I'll 

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feel more resentful depending 
on. 

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Where we're at? 
But yeah, no, it's definitely 

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in. 
In the beginning I would feel so

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much resentment and I'm sure a 
lot of stepmoms can relate to 

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this. 
Because of. 

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Scheduling, like you know, we 
did a lot of summers with some 

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of the step. 
Kids. 

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And then there was, you know, 
our stepson lived with, well, my

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stepson lived with us, you know,
full time for a few years there.

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And not that it was like 
anyone's fault necessarily. 

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It's just like as a. 
Stepmom, you feel so powerless. 

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Like it just. 
I feel like I was constantly 

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being told. 
Like, oh, this is what's. 

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Happening. 
This is when they're coming. 

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This is how long they're 
staying. 

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And it's like in that. 
Outsider field where we feel. 

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Like we're an outsider in our 
home because we're just 

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expected. 
To go with the flow, I 

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completely get that. 
Continue. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Because it's like. 

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Oh well, they're my. 
Kids so like, why? 

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Would you need to know when 
they're coming and when they're 

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not? 
But it's like, no, that's. 

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What you're not understanding is
it's different and they don't 

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understand that, which I can be 
more empathetic with now than I 

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used to be. 
But. 

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I I needed to know. 
Because like you said. 

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Transition days, for example, or
transition times in the summer. 

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We have one of our. 
Step kids all. 

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Summer I need to know because I 
need to mentally prepare myself.

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Because like we were just. 
Talking about the dynamic of the

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whole house changes. 
We need to go grocery shopping 

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more. 
This kid likes this. 

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This kid doesn't like. 
This I like to. 

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Sign up my kids for a lot of 
sports, you know, So I want my 

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step kid who lives in a 
different state. 

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When they come here for the 
summer, I want to make sure that

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they feel included. 
But that takes time, that takes 

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scheduling. 
It takes all of these things 

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that moms already do. 
And while we're doing that and 

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we're making sure they're 
included in that. 

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Their lives wrap around their. 
Schedule so that they don't lose

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their normalcy and then. 
While our spouse is also. 

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Protecting, you know, the kids 
life and their perspective. 

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Then all of a sudden we start 
feeling like the. 

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Least Protected. 
Person in the house. 

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And that's really hard. 
And so resentment isn't about 

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what happened, it's about what 
really never changed. 

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And so, yeah, I think. 
First spouses out there in. 

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General for the stepmoms and the
husbands or the partners or 

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fiance's you. 
Have got to get to the root of 

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the. 
Issue and change it. 

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Before it reoccurs. 
And before it shows it's ugly 

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head again because then it's 
going to snowball and it's 

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stepmom life there's it's going 
to be 1 issue after another. 

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So it's about getting down. 
To that issue and quickly. 

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And getting it figured out and 
moving on to the next problem. 

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Stepmoms, How are you coping 
with transition? 

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Day. 
I'll tell you how. 

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I am, I'm lighting my big ass 
candles to calm my big ass 

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anxieties and honestly it 
changes the whole mood of the 

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house. 
Same chaos, just calmer vibes 

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and way better energy. 
We're obsessed with. 

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Big ass candles from big. 
Ass luxuries? 

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Yep. 
The ones from Shark Tank. 

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Stepmom life comes with big ass 
feelings. 

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Yes, and I think like women and 
especially moms. 

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By default it's like we. 
Just want everyone to get along.

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So sometimes we won't like, say 
what's bothering us. 

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And that's when it turns into a 
resentment and it starts to 

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fester and it starts to 
snowball. 

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And you know, there's a 
resentment that I'm dealing with

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right now and it's snowballed 
because I didn't communicate. 

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About it first would. 
You like to share with the class

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Becca? 
No, not yet. 

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Maybe one day. 
That's for. 

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Our private space, that's 
coming, yes. 

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Stay tuned. 
But yeah, I think you know what 

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having your back actually means 
as a stepmom is when you're 

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communicating what that. 
Looks like to your. 

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Husband or to your partner, you 
know, like, hey, having my back 

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means I need to know what day 
they're coming, what day they're

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leaving, how long they're 
staying, or whatever it may be 

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for you. 
That's just, you know, one 

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example of many. 
Yeah, I think communication and 

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we can dive into that one next, 
because communication is. 

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Seriously. 
Obviously. 

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That's so important in every 
relationship, you know? 

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Your your coworkers. 
Relationships, your family 

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relationships and your spouse 
beyond your Co, your 

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communication relationship with 
your spouse is your 

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communication relationship with 
your step parent partner because

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that's a completely different 
communication. 

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This one's like, hey, no, here's
the check in. 

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This is how I'm doing. 
This is how I'm not doing. 

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So our husbands and. 
You know, partners, They're only

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as good as the information 
you've given. 

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I don't know if anyone's heard 
of. 

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The book this is so. 
Old men are like waffles and 

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women are like spaghetti. 
Do you know that 10? 

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My gosh. 
OK, this is something with like 

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your stepmom movie plug. 
Let's add this one in there. 

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Now everyone has a movie night 
and a book to read. 

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Oh my gosh. 
So I'll have to get. 

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Professional on here to kind of 
discuss it but in a nutshell 

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it's like men are like waffles 
and if you explain this to a man

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they do not like it because it 
sounds so narrow minded but they

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imagine the syrup. 
They get stuck. 

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In one little square at a time 
and they can only think about 

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one thing or do 1 task at a 
time. 

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I can never tell my husband. 
To go listen to his favorite 

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podcast. 
While he's mowing the yard, do 

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you know what my yard would? 
Look like. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
But women, we. 

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Listen to this podcast while 
we're. 

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Facetiming our best friend while
we're doing the laundry and, you

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know, multitasking left and 
right like it's nobody's 

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business and each job gets done.
So we are like if you pour syrup

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or spaghetti sauce. 
Onto spaghetti noodles. 

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We're kind of just all over the 
place and we can do all the 

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things at once, but in the same 
way our mind is going everywhere

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at once. 
So if you look at that in the 

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ways of how we all think about 
our step. 

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Family dynamics and the issues. 
We have our husbands are. 

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Thinking about and they're 
compartmentalizing the issues at

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hand. 
So for instance, I'm totally 

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going to make this up. 
Let's see some. 

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Issue, let's say or just. 
Transition day, my husband's 

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just thinking about getting the 
kids back. 

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Me, I'm thinking about how is my
daughter going to be when the 

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kids come back? 
What should I have planned for 

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the kids when they come back? 
What should I be doing? 

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What's my husband going to be 
like? 

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How are we going to, you know, 
what are we going to do for 

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dinner? 
I am looking at a million things

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at once and I'm kind of 
spiraling but my husband doesn't

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know that because he's stuck in 
his nice. 

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Little waffle shell. 
And he's stuck in this. 

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Little cube of it's like I just 
we get the kids back today, 

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period, end of. 
Sentence. 

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End of brain power. 
Literally. 

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They're not stupid, but they can
go deep into that one hole. 

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Of the thought process so. 
Men out there like I am not 

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trying to say that y'all are 
narrow minded you know you can't

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think are multitask. 
It sounds like that, but like 

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literally that's how you're 
wired. 

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Women, we're all. 
Can see the good. 

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The bad and the ugly on one 
subject at all times. 

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So even if something great is 
happening, we're also thinking 

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about what's going to happen 
when bio mom finds out about 

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this or, you know, so if the. 
Husbands and spouses. 

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Can understand that the women 
can communicate their feelings, 

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but we're only going to be 
giving you like 20% of all the 

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thoughts we're diving into then 
and you can like dig some more 

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and say. 
Like, wow. 

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How does that make you you feel?
Or how did you take transition 

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day today? 
Did you feel like? 

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Anything was different or 
better. 

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Like ask us a question so. 
That's my Ted Talk on 

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conversations and communication 
with your spouse, and not that 

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our communication is great by 
any. 

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Means, but we're working. 
On it and this is what I'm 

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working on. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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No. 
And I think that's. 

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Good that like we're. 
Transparent about it like no 

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one's marriage is. 
Perfect. 

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Ours aren't perfect, but we have
learned a lot. 

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And you know, we have, you know,
5 plus years under our belt. 

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So, you know, we're starting, 
we're starting to get into, you 

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know. 
A better place for sure. 

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OK. 
Let's talk about. 

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The silent expectations that our
partners place on us, but they 

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don't really realize they're 
placing on us. 

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So I think a lot of times that 
there's just different rules, 

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right, that moms and dads take 
on. 

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Just biologically, just 
subconsciously, like. 

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For example, my husband does all
the sports things, you know. 

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That's his job, that's his role.
He does all the. 

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Stuff in the backyard, for 
example, all those things and 

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moms, we usually, you know, we 
take care of the school 

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communication, you know, signing
up for things, little things 

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like that. 
I think that sometimes partners 

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will place the expectation on 
stepmoms that we're going to be 

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handling all of that for our 
step kids when we already are 

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struggling like. 
Do I do this? 

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Do I not do this? 
So we're like, well. 

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Well, I don't know. 
And I know that definitely in 

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the beginning for me, sometimes 
it was just. 

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Expected that I would take care 
of some, especially before I had

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kids. 
I was like I. 

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Don't even know how. 
To do that like I. 

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Didn't know how to sign up for 
school by this time or I didn't 

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even think about getting in 
school supplies because I'm not 

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a mom yet. 
Before. 

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I didn't know if bio mom was 
going to do that so I didn't 

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want to step on. 
Toes. 

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So it's just like. 
I don't know this tug and pull. 

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I don't know what you've 
experienced in that realm. 

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Yet. 
And the whole idea of. 

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People thinking, you know, 
again, we knew what you signed 

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up for. 
So there's these sign on 

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expectations from the general. 
Public, but also our. 

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Partners kind of think that too.
Like I know I wrote personal 

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vows for my stepsons and read 
them to them at our ceremony 

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when we got married. 
Wait, wait, sidebar, you did. 

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That's really cute, This is. 
That's really cute. 

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Tell me about it this. 
Is so cute all of. 

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Our friends are learning about 
me with you. 

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Yes. 
No, that's cute. 

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Yeah, I wrote vows to like. 
I read vows to my husband and 

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then we had one of the boys come
up and he held. 

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The big boy while I. 
Read him vows and then the 

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little boy came up and I held 
him and I read him about and 

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that one was. 
Like he is a wild. 

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Christian lunatic. 
And he was too at the time. 

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So I was like, I promise to 
encourage your crazy. 

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Capabilities, you know, we're 
like but. 

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In those vows, and this is 
something I love to. 

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Say to people like. 
In these vows, I never said I 

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promise to handle the intense 
amounts of stress and insane 

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comments that come from your 
other. 

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House or. 
Whatever, you know, I never. 

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Vowed to like, take on all of 
those gracefully because that 

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wasn't something. 
That I had on my radar. 

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Yeah, we didn't even think about
it. 

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No, the comments and I don't 
think. 

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That step kids always do it. 
Intentionally. 

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Now with that being said, I 
think just being a. 

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Child that has two different. 
Homes, sometimes they do things 

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subconsciously, but yes, the 
comments and they're hurting the

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feelings. 
I did like not sign up. 

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For or realize. 
And I think it's different than 

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when your own bio kit says a 
comment to you then when your 

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step kids. 
Say it to you. 

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You take it so much more 
personally and I think the 

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silent expectation that the 
partner has. 

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Is that we'll just. 
Ignore it or. 

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It's not a big deal and it's 
like. 

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No, that really hurt my feelings
because I'm doing XY and Z for 

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this child and then they say 
like a mean comment to me and it

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really hurts my feelings, you 
know, and that that that one's 

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been really hard for me. 
Like even though I seem like I'm

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really like tough and. 
Whatever have a thick. 

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Skin like and I think you do 
too. 

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Like we're like, we're strong. 
Women, you know, like we. 

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Both have like careers. 
And you know, we have strong 

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work. 
Ethics, both of us, but. 

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We do get our feelings hurt, you
know. 

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It's like just because we're. 
Like that doesn't mean that 

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we're not human and that things 
don't hurt our feelings. 

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Yeah, that's a message to the 
spouses. 

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Again, like understanding. 
That the facade is just. 

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Something that we put on so 
that, you know, we don't want 

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our children and our 
stepchildren to see us hurting 

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and sad and we want them, you 
know, to grow. 

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Up to look for. 
Women like us, you know, that 

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you know, can just handle the 
turmoil and the stress and the 

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daily grind and the grit. 
Of it all. 

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But behind closed doors, we're 
going to break down and I think 

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that the men have to see again, 
like the women are like 

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spaghetti. 
We're so different. 

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We are just different, the way 
we process for a different way 

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we internally accept everything 
or the way we communicate is 

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also different. 
And when I talk about marriage 

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after blending, blending the 
families, of course I didn't 

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have neither one of us. 
You and I both didn't have bio. 

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Kids. 
So we were just. 

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Blending, bringing the step kids
into our home and yeah, I think 

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marriage, really. 
Takes a toll. 

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It's hard. 
It challenges you just the same 

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with like having your own kids. 
But imagine the way I. 

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Always like to say it is that. 
Having step kids is like having 

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your niece and nephew. 
At your house all the time 

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because it's. 
A bond and a relationship. 

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More loving than like your best 
friend's kids, but it's not 

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quite like your own kids. 
So. 

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No, that's a perfect, perfect 
analogy. 

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It's just like having someone. 
That you love to have. 

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Around but then they're kind of 
there too long, you know, and 

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it's like like if your in laws 
come. 

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You're welcome to stay here. 
As long as you want. 

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Like, this is your son's house 
too, you know? 

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Yeah, like we love you. 
Get out but but yeah. 

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Your time's up, you know, like 
it's time to go. 

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Want to like I? 
To be able to. 

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Take off my pants again. 
Or no. 

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Like, not like we're putting it 
on a show. 

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But like you guys get it like. 
I want to take this mask. 

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Off like because I do like. 
You know, act a little different

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than I do with with my own son. 
It's. 

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Just the reality of it. 
So yeah, I think that that's 

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perfect. 
Because it's like you are bonded

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like how you are to your niece 
and nephew. 

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But it is. 
Different than how you are to 

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your own biological children. 
Yes. 

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And so we also. 
Had a trauma bond with. 

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Our spouse because it well. 
And I don't know if you 

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necessarily have one because you
invented court and let me just. 

457
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,360
Say that's like the. 
Epitome of trauma for stepmoms. 

458
00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:18,160
It doesn't get much more 
traumatizing than like law 

459
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,240
enforcement, CPS, court, any of 
that kind of. 

460
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,600
Heavyweight at your door? 
Not like impending doom. 

461
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,520
So when your spouse and you are 
trauma bonded and the trauma is 

462
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,480
linked to people that come to 
your house. 

463
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,720
Every other week or whatever. 
Every weekend. 

464
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,560
Or just Thursdays, or maybe. 
They live there full time. 

465
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,480
If you see. 
That child, you might love them,

466
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,040
but you'll also be triggered by 
them and triggered by their 

467
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,120
name. 
Or triggered by like. 

468
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,360
If one of them. 
Looks just like their. 

469
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,440
Mom, Oh my gosh. 
A. 

470
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,760
Trigger when you see. 
Them it's horrible and these 

471
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,000
children shouldn't be triggers. 
But they are. 

472
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,320
And that's something we have to 
heal within ourselves. 

473
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,760
Yeah, and it's like, and you 
feel bad for feeling that way. 

474
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,720
Like, you know, you're like. 
Why do I feel like? 

475
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,360
This and I feel like that's why 
you and I got so close when we 

476
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,920
both realized that we had become
stepmoms around the same time 

477
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,320
because we're like. 
Why do I feel like this? 

478
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,680
Like I feel so. 
Bad, you know. 

479
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,840
But I. 
Can't make the feeling go. 

480
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,680
Away which I think. 
You and I have gotten better at.

481
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,440
Throughout the years, but. 
Even now still I can totally 

482
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,240
relate to that statement because
it's like. 

483
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,640
Well, you. 
Caused the situation we're in. 

484
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,560
Feel like that even though they 
are kids. 

485
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,560
But still, it's like they'll 
say. 

486
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,080
Things and go back to the other 
home and then that parent will 

487
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,360
interpretate it a certain way 
and then it's like, jeez, you 

488
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,080
know, it's just so much. 
And I think I also wanted to 

489
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,400
bring out something, I think. 
That when you have a high. 

490
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,320
Conflict bio mom which one of us
in this case definitely does and

491
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,400
and you know one of us has had 
where they are high conflict at 

492
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,000
times. 
Is that is. 

493
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,080
So much more difficult on a 
marriage than a bio mom that you

494
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,480
get along with for the most 
part. 

495
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,440
You know, with one of my bio 
moms, we do get along for the 

496
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,200
most part. 
You know, we've had our times 

497
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,360
like I've discussed, but that is
going to be different on my 

498
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:16,880
marriage versus a high conflict 
bio mom who's might have CPS 

499
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,960
coming to the house. 
Like I'm sorry. 

500
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,160
And that stepmom is going to 
feel different. 

501
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,120
They're going to feel way more 
intense feelings than I would 

502
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,160
because when? 
CPS is coming to your. 

503
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,360
House and they might be messing 
with your own biological 

504
00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:32,960
children. 
That is just different. 

505
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,720
I'm sorry, like that's when the 
Mama bear comes out and and 

506
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,240
those triggers can come. 
Yeah, you don't mess with the 

507
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,520
internal family and. 
So who else are we going to? 

508
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,080
Like we're not going to get on 
to the kids and be like, oh, I'm

509
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,920
annoyed with you because of your
mom. 

510
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,040
We're. 
Going to go to our. 

511
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Spouse, I'm annoyed with you. 
Because of your ex. 

512
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,200
And so a lot of these don't. 
Need to be directed at the X. 

513
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,320
Although we don't have another 
outlet and we don't want to vent

514
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,080
to our friends who are not 
stepmoms. 

515
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,520
That is a big. 
Lesson that Becca and I are 

516
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,480
going to get into in another. 
Episode so everyone just. 

517
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,720
Hang and bear with us, because 
that's coming. 

518
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,800
That's just a. 
Deep, deep episode that. 

519
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,280
We want to be. 
Well, prepared for, but yeah, 

520
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,720
there's got to be. 
A place where you can unload as 

521
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,720
a stepmom, unpack the trauma 
that you're carrying. 

522
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,760
Every day. 
Because every day. 

523
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,080
There's going to be new trauma 
with you hear from bio mom or if

524
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,000
you. 
Are triggered by see your step 

525
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,040
kids or your step. 
Kids has something or. 

526
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,560
You have to wear pants today 
because your step. 

527
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,400
Kids are home. 
That's traumatizing. 

528
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,280
OK, so there has to be a. 
Space. 

529
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,560
It's not your spouse all the 
time, and it certainly is not 

530
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,800
your friends that are not 
stepmoms. 

531
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,320
That's an easy. 
Plug that we are for sure. 

532
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,480
Working on a space for stepmoms 
to come together and have these 

533
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,760
moments. 
But you have us. 

534
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Come here, vent, unload, send us
questions. 

535
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,040
We're here for y'all. 
That's all I have on that. 

536
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,040
No, definitely I wanted to get 
into and we kind of did talk 

537
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,160
about this in the. 
Last episode with Kristen but. 

538
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,800
I wanted to dive a little bit. 
Deeper into it, what is? 

539
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:13,440
The partner's job. 
Versus what is our job as the? 

540
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,600
Stepmom in the house. 
So like what do? 

541
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,480
You think should be handled by 
your partner and not the 

542
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,960
stepmom. 
Like at all. 

543
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,360
OK, a few things here. 
I work in Hospice, so something 

544
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,480
we preach on daily is called 
caregiver burnout. 

545
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,800
And this is. 
Where the caregiver of the. 

546
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,360
Sick 1 is usually like a. 
Spouse. 

547
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:38,680
Or a son or daughter. 
And they are. 

548
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,800
Caring for this sick person for 
SO. 

549
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Long and trying to take. 
Care of their needs. 

550
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,680
Emotionally and physically and 
mentally and you know. 

551
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,520
Like literally their future 
needs. 

552
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,160
So they burn out so quick that 
they are the next patient on 

553
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,880
Hospice because once that 
patient passes. 

554
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,720
The spouse or the loved? 
One becomes initially all this 

555
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,200
sickness grows in their 
endocrine system and 

556
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,480
materializes into their brain 
and it just breaks down their 

557
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,120
body so much because stress is 
the most toxic sickness that we 

558
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,560
can have so. 
There's also something called 

559
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Caregiver. 
Burnout with stepmoms and 

560
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,640
caregiver burnout is, you know, 
similar. 

561
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,680
Whereas like set, moms are the 
first to burnout. 

562
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Typically because a these. 
Are not our children, so 

563
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,080
unfortunately all this work. 
We're doing is for. 

564
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,920
Someone that isn't our own, so 
it doesn't come natural and it's

565
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,440
not innate, so it's a heavier. 
Load of work. 

566
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Even doing the laundry, these 
are not our children's laundry, 

567
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,440
so it's not just like a second 
thought and we're just doing it 

568
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,120
while we're watching TV. 
This is like we see. 

569
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,800
A memory when we're folding 
their shirts like, oh, they came

570
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,960
over from. 
Like. 

571
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,560
Everything is heavy, so stepmoms
have this burnout that happened.

572
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240
So fast. 
And we don't have an outlet. 

573
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,000
There is no. 
Outlet for us, you can go for a 

574
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,640
jog. 
You know you can take a nap. 

575
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,000
You can drink some wine. 
Whatever your your sources, 

576
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,080
light a candle. 
And palm down but. 

577
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,880
Yeah, we have to protect 
ourselves, take care of 

578
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,160
ourselves because. 
If we burn out. 

579
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,040
What are we for our children? 
What are we for the step kids? 

580
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,320
What are we for? 
Our house we're not taking care 

581
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,520
of our house and our step kids 
if we're not taking care of. 

582
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,200
Ourselves. 
What does that look like? 

583
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,080
How do we do that? 
It's. 

584
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,920
Easier said than done. 
But also like the spouses can 

585
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,720
step up without picking sides. 
That being said, this is a. 

586
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,240
Conversation you have to have 
with your own spouse, you know 

587
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,880
that. 
Doesn't just work everywhere 

588
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,000
where? 
You can say, hey, this is going 

589
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,280
to be your job, this is my job. 
And like when the step kids 

590
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,680
come, it's uneven or you get 
more. 

591
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,400
Jobs because they're your kids. 
So it's kind of a. 

592
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,480
House by house situation. 
But you do. 

593
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,360
Have to. 
Really dive into that. 

594
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,440
Yeah, and I think it's important
because not obviously when 

595
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,240
you're married to someone, you 
guys are not going to agree on 

596
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,760
everything. 
You're just not. 

597
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,560
And and if you do, then I guess 
you married yourself. 

598
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,120
I don't know, but you're going 
to have disagreements about 

599
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,240
everything. 
But when it comes to 

600
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,320
disagreements? 
About your step kids I. 

601
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Think it is a lot more of a 
sensitive topic and you know, 

602
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,720
you know, our partners can get a
lot more defensive about things 

603
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,680
and it's really difficult at 
times. 

604
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,640
So I think how partners can step
up without taking sides is. 

605
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,080
To always show a. 
United Front and my husband and 

606
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560
I have gotten so much. 
Better at this is. 

607
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,640
We don't agree on some things, 
but in front of the. 

608
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Kids, our bio kids or our step 
kids? 

609
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,840
We try our hardest. 
We're not perfect. 

610
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,920
We do not discuss disagreements 
we might have about something, 

611
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,240
whether it's a simple I think he
should have taken out the trash,

612
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,760
or it's something more serious 
about something, Bio Mom said. 

613
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,960
Whatever you know. 
Is the case we show. 

614
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,040
United front and then we shut it
down and then later. 

615
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,080
You're able to discuss that with
your. 

616
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,200
Partner in a way that. 
Is just for adults. 

617
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,280
To hear and then and you can 
talk. 

618
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,000
About it, but that's how. 
For me at. 

619
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Least how I receive. 
It best is when my partner, you 

620
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,680
know, might stick up for me or 
might shut down the conversation

621
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,240
in front of others, but then we 
can talk in. 

622
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Private like hey. 
I don't agree with you on this. 

623
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,800
I think that you handled this 
actually incorrectly with bio 

624
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,000
mom. 
You know what? 

625
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,040
Like I think you were not nice 
or I think that. 

626
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,280
She was right. 
But I would never say that in 

627
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,000
front of my children or anyone 
else because marriage is very 

628
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,880
sacred. 
And me and Alyssa, we don't want

629
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040
to get divorced. 
We're not trying to have our 

630
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,960
kids have a stepmom. 
Right. 

631
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,400
We are working our. 
Butts off, so we're. 

632
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,520
Trying to do this as best as we 
know how. 

633
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,960
Wait, we love stepmoms support. 
All of y'all. 

634
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160
But we don't want any of you to 
be our stepmoms to our kids. 

635
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Just kidding. 
OK, well. 

636
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,960
Some of you guys are really, 
really great. 

637
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,920
I'm like, wow, you sound like a.
Better mom than I know. 

638
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,480
I know and I. 
We would be those. 

639
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,840
Bio moms that are friends with 
the stepmoms because we 

640
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,400
understand. 
Like those people? 

641
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,800
That are like reposting or are 
shit and they're like. 

642
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,840
I feel really bad for these 
people. 

643
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,840
I. 
Love the stepmom to my children 

644
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,000
or I love the bio mom. 
I'm like, great. 

645
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240
I felt like that at first. 
Too, But things changed I. 

646
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,800
Literally that's. 
You think we want this? 

647
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Conflict. 
I'm sorry that you think that I 

648
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,640
woke. 
Up one day and was like I don't 

649
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,600
like a happy. 
Household, I would love to just.

650
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Be up all night, be picking 
fights with my husband. 

651
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Just because of his ex? 
What? 

652
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,800
Yeah, no, definitely. 
And I think for my situation, 

653
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,320
because I have two bio moms 
involved, the second one is the 

654
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,240
one that I am cool with but she 
understands. 

655
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,240
Because she dealt with the. 
First one. 

656
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,880
Listen, stepmoms, listen So. 
She understands and is nicer. 

657
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:52,000
Becca was at a sports. 
Event last night texting me and 

658
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,840
she was like I'm sitting next to
bio mom right now. 

659
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,080
I was like, what? 
What were you forced to or there

660
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880
no other seats available? 
How did that happen? 

661
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,560
Like? 
Why didn't you just leave and go

662
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,360
home like. 
I this is I. 

663
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Can't wrap my head around this. 
Because this is like a. 

664
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Dream set, mom world, perfect 
vision and I bet 90% of our 

665
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,240
listeners just don't have that 
and anyone that has it. 

666
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,200
We love to hear the success 
stories. 

667
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,160
We love to hear it. 
Don't judge us because we want 

668
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,520
to be you. 
Yeah, I know. 

669
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,440
And I think and I. 
Love that for the most part we 

670
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,800
do have that relationship but. 
It's taken a lot sort of 

671
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,840
invisible boundaries that I've 
set just for myself and with. 

672
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800
That. 
Relationship, but I mean I've. 

673
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Told her this, I'll tell. 
Everyone and people might think 

674
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,080
I'm crazy for saying this, but 
she's my family at the end of 

675
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960
the day, you know? 
And if she needs something? 

676
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,760
I got her back and. 
You know, I might not always. 

677
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,720
Feel like that with the. 
Other one, even though there's a

678
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,320
lot. 
Of things I like about her too, 

679
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,000
but. 
But this one, like we are 

680
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,480
family. 
And you know what? 

681
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,880
Families don't always like each 
other and so we know that and 

682
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,080
we've. 
Had talks like that. 

683
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,640
Hey, I did not. 
Like you did that? 

684
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,720
It's not perfect by any means, 
so don't. 

685
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,400
Don't get it twisted guys, but 
yeah, we do usually sit by each 

686
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,720
other at. 
Sporting events and and we talk 

687
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120
about my stepson, how he's doing
and, and that's. 

688
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,200
Cool, because yeah, we love. 
Watching him play that just. 

689
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,040
Sounds so cool to me. 
I wish and it can. 

690
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,520
Happen one day. 
She is proof, everyone. 

691
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Becca is proof. 
That it's not stepmoms. 

692
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Because guess what? 
She's. 

693
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,440
Dealing with two bio moms and 
one the relationship is shitty 

694
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,360
and the other one the 
relationship is fine. 

695
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,960
So guess what? 
It's not stepmoms, every bio mom

696
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,240
is different and that's how the 
each one. 

697
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Goes All right, I digress. 
Back to spouses. 

698
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,480
I have some like write it down 
with a pen kind of key points to

699
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,080
hit on for spouses here just to 
kind of wrap. 

700
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,600
It up a little bit. 
Something. 

701
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,920
To that we are asked. 
Constantly. 

702
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,480
Stepmoms need their spouses to 
understand this. 

703
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Here's one We are not too 
sensitive. 

704
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,760
We are just overexposed. 
We are retired or overexposed. 

705
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,880
To trauma overexposed to drama 
overexposed to negativity more 

706
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120
than the normal. 
Body is allowed. 

707
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,920
And supposed to be and 
sensitivity isn't the problem. 

708
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,400
It's a lack of protection. 
Women need to feel emotionally 

709
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,719
safe in order to open up. 
We can't open up to our. 

710
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,280
Spouses. 
If we don't feel emotionally 

711
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,639
safe and if the. 
Spouse is the reason. 

712
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,639
That we're not emotionally safe 
and maybe it's not him. 

713
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:34,159
Directly, but it's his ex. 
You know, and coming into our 

714
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,719
house through attorneys. 
Or through the step kids or. 

715
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,880
That one person that posted like
that stepmom sent a drone over. 

716
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,760
To their house with a. 
Camera on it or something that's

717
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,760
a violation and that's. 
That's. 

718
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Crazy. 
I read that and I was like, 

719
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,280
that's so wild. 
So that stepmom. 

720
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,280
Is feeling unsafe. 
And it has. 

721
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
To do with the spouse, it has to
do with that so. 

722
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,080
We walk into emotionally charged
situations without any history. 

723
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,840
Or authority. 
And what looks like small to you

724
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,040
husbands, it lands heavy on us 
because it's constant and it's 

725
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,920
forever. 
And. 

726
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,320
We don't see an end. 
Insight. 

727
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,720
So it's this. 
Never ending. 

728
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,360
Pit and so just so. 
Husbands can lose this 

729
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,320
delusional like that. 
We're sensitive women. 

730
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,560
We're just overexposed. 
Overstimulated. 

731
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Over. 
We're done. 

732
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,800
We're over it. 
Another one is that love doesn't

733
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,160
cancel. 
Discomfort like yes, we love 

734
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,120
you. 
We can. 

735
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,920
Still love you and care about 
the kids and we can struggle 

736
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,560
these. 
Truths. 

737
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,920
All can exist at the same time. 
If you say they're just. 

738
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,240
Kids or they don't mean it, you 
know, or you're misdirecting 

739
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:41,760
your anger. 
It's not the kids. 

740
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,320
It just makes our feelings feel 
like they're not as important 

741
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,080
and they're less. 
And then. 

742
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,440
Or makes it more intense for me.
If someone says that to me 

743
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:55,200
right, I get mad. 
I'm like, I'm sorry, what? 

744
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Like. 
Because we feel less important 

745
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,920
to me. 
Yeah, We feel like our our 

746
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,520
feelings are not important. 
So our feelings get heightened. 

747
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,920
Yeah, exactly. 
And then I really spiral. 

748
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,720
No, I think the most important 
thing I want. 

749
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,320
Bio dats to hear, is that 
validate? 

750
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,400
Our feelings Even if you don't 
understand and you don't feel 

751
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,760
the same way, you can. 
Still be respectful of your. 

752
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,040
Partner and listen to them. 
And validate what they're. 

753
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,840
Feeling, even if you don't 
understand and you're like, I 

754
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080
don't know, this lady is crazy. 
I don't know why she thinks 

755
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,960
this, but don't say that. 
Yeah. 

756
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,760
Neutral is still a choice. 
That was exactly what I. 

757
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,400
Was going to come at next 
silence. 

758
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,760
It feels like agreement, but 
hesitation feels like 

759
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,320
abandonment. 
So let me repeat that silence 

760
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,640
feels like agreement. 
The hesitation feels like 

761
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,680
abandonment. 
So we don't need you to attack 

762
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,920
anyone, but we need you to lead.
You know, we need you to handle 

763
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,160
the hard stuff. 
And and another thing is that 

764
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,160
just we are adjusting every day.
You have to know that we take 

765
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,280
these ebbs and flows and we're 
taking these hits and we're 

766
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,400
realigning ourselves with the 
situation, and that's a constant

767
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,640
work. 
For us, it's like a. 

768
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Workout 24/7. 
So. 

769
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Do we have a listener? 
Question to wrap this up. 

770
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,200
Yes, I have a couple. 
So this kind of goes along with 

771
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,480
what we're talking about and 
kind of went along with 

772
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,800
boundaries. 
Last week, but how? 

773
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Can I get my partner to not over
share? 

774
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,320
Our life with. 
Bio mom call him, Yeah. 

775
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,120
Let's go back to communication. 
Go back to the part. 

776
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,920
On your podcast. 
Episode where you. 

777
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,720
See, it says communication talk.
Through that with your stuff. 

778
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,840
And I promise if you have more 
issues come message. 

779
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,200
Us because we'll talk you 
through it we'll. 

780
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680
Talk to you and we're building a
private space for that so we can

781
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,400
really talk you. 
Through it with your 

782
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,400
relationship. 
Yeah. 

783
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,240
And I think. 
Like if this is. 

784
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,920
Like a newer relationship. 
For you that. 

785
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Sometimes I think bio dads want 
to like and just men in general 

786
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160
want to be like. 
Yeah, we're good over here. 

787
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,240
We're we're doing this for doing
that. 

788
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,240
And so maybe it's not like from 
a perspective of oversharing 

789
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:03,400
necessarily as like, I love my 
wife and this is what we're 

790
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,280
doing and but I completely 
understand why you wouldn't want

791
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,920
that. 
OK, another one and for another 

792
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,400
one. 
We do. 

793
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,960
Do you have it or do you want me
to do it? 

794
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,360
OK, let's see. 
There's so many good ones. 

795
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,840
OK, All right, I like. 
This one OK this stepmom asks 

796
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,400
how can I deal with the constant
need that bio mom has to text my

797
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,920
husband to Co parent their son 
and the stepmom says in my 

798
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,680
opinion it's. 
Just so that. 

799
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,520
She can stay connected to my 
husband. 

800
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,240
Oh, this one's so gross. 
We don't deal with this. 

801
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,960
Unfortunately. 
But this is where the. 

802
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,720
Community will come in handy 
girl. 

803
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,800
So many people do. 
So this is. 

804
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,160
About control. 
It's about micromanaging and 

805
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,200
control. 
And she's trying to. 

806
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,760
Control what happens at your. 
House control your relationship 

807
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,600
and how it succeeds. 
And yeah, this is just gross. 

808
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960
In my opinion, what you have. 
To do is have a. 

809
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,880
Conversation with your partner. 
I'm sorry, I'm not saying she's 

810
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,000
gross. 
Maybe I'm saying that this is a.

811
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,880
Gross. 
This is a sick part to deal 

812
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,800
with. 
And this is exactly what we 

813
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,120
were. 
Talking about, it's very hard 

814
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,920
for us to. 
Have to deal with this kind of 

815
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,040
stuff. 
This is insane. 

816
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,720
Any other normal married family 
they don't have to deal. 

817
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:17,680
With this outsider. 
Coming into their marriage. 

818
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,240
So anyways, you need to talk. 
Because an ex isn't? 

819
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,320
Yeah. 
Because an X is an X. 

820
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640
So if you don't share. 
Kids like this won't even. 

821
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,920
Be a situation so yeah, no, we. 
Get it? 

822
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,960
This is This is hard but but. 
Yeah. 

823
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,760
And then I would say keep it 
from 8:00 to 5:00, the 

824
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,600
communication back and forth. 
Tell him he can tell her I'm 

825
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,200
only going to respond 8 to 5 
member. 

826
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,680
It's a business transaction. 
We talked. 

827
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,080
About this a few episodes ago. 
And this is he can say unless 

828
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,400
it's an emergency, then I, you 
know, nights and weekends, you 

829
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,720
can have my full attention, but 
and then tell him to keep it 

830
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,680
short. 
She won't get the hint. 

831
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Keep it short. 
Keep it 1 to 2 words. 

832
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,840
Got it. 
OK, got it. 

833
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,800
And if she's talking about you, 
he needs to keep her name out of

834
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,920
your mouth. 
That's it. 

835
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,840
Put like end of story. 
Yes. 

836
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,360
No, definitely, definitely. 
Well, I think that's all we 

837
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,120
have. 
Time for today, but we are so 

838
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,080
excited. 
For next week and send us your 

839
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,760
questions and. 
We hope you guys. 

840
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,040
Have an emotionally regulated 
week. 

841
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,560
Happy transition. 
Day. 

842
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,920
Happy D-Day. 
Oh, bye. 

843
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,560
Bye. 
That's it for this. 

844
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,440
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845
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,960
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846
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,760
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847
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,440
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848
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849
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852
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853
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