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Hey everyone, welcome to Stepmom
Side Chats. 

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We are your hosts, Alyssa and 
Rebecca, 2. 

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Stepmoms who are done pretending
everything's perfect. 

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This is where we talk 
boundaries, Co parenting, hard 

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truths, healing, and the stuff 
nobody says out loud. 

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If you're ready for real talk, 
real growth and a little. 

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Bit of spice. 
Let's get into it. 

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Hey, hey, hey. 
How you doing? 

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Welcome back to another episode 
of Stepmom Side Chats. 

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I'm good. 
How are you doing? 

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Good, good, good. 
Happy Transition Day to all that

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celebrate. 
Cheers. 

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I need everyone to know right 
now that I'm looking at sit up a

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little bit Becca Amazing Spider 
man stepmom T-shirt she's 

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wearing. 
The Amazing Spider man all boy 

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stepmoms. 
Well little boys, they get it. 

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Spider Man is my son's favorite.
I literally am so sick of 

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freaking watching Spider Man 
every single day. 

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I want to watch Spidey. 
You're such a better mom than 

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me. 
I wouldn't wear that stuff just 

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for my kid, but maybe I should. 
I guess I will. 

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Don't. 
No, don't worry. 

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I only wear it around the house,
but one time I actually wore it 

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out in public and my husband was
like, Becca, can you like 

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change? 
I was like, what? 

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I was like, you don't like it? 
It doesn't, I mean anyway. 

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How was your week or weekend? 
You know what, by time this 

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episode airs, it will be 
Tuesday, our new and improved 

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transition day. 
So I will be working through 

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those emotions, I should just 
say that. 

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Are they leaving or coming? 
Leaving. 

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Leaving. 
Oh, mines coming tomorrow. 

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We flip. 
Cheers. 

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We did flip flop. 
Yeah. 

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Cheers. 
Well, OK, so this week we're all

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about Mythbusters. 
Yes, yes. 

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So many different stepmom myths 
out there that just people 

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create and it's so wild. 
It's so wild. 

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I can't wait. 
And everyone went crazy when we 

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were asking what are some 
stepmom myths? 

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Oh my gosh, there's so many that
I didn't even think about. 

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And then so many repeat ones 
that were like obvious that we 

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just hear all the time. 
That's super annoying, so let's 

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get started. 
We're just going to RIP through 

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these myths like nobody's 
business. 

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OK, what's the first one? 
I mean, we have to go with the 

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obvious, right? 
The most annoying and the most 

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redundant is that stepmoms knew 
what they signed up for. 

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I need it. 
Can I get a pole? 

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Let's raise our hand. 
If you knew what you signed up 

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for, you signed up for this. 
You signed up for these court 

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appointed, you know, people in 
your life. 

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You signed up to pay thousands 
and thousands and thousands of 

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dollars. 
You knew what you signed up for.

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You knew that it would turn out 
to be like this. 

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Are you kidding? 
Would any of us be here if we 

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knew I was? 
Going to say, I know. 

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I see no hands raised, so zero 
hands in the audience. 

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Yeah. 
No, for real. 

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I oh, my gosh, if someone told 
me that again, I think I would 

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just cry. 
Everyone says that. 

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You know what? 
I've heard it from even my own 

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family members. 
Have you heard it from your own 

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family members? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And you know, I feel like I used
to say, you know, I should have 

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known better because I came from
a family of divorced parents and

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I saw the court system and how 
it works. 

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But to be honest, it's just it 
wasn't like that when I signed 

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up for this. 
And so I wouldn't have thought, 

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you know, I'm even more of that 
glass half empty kind of gal. 

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And I didn't think, oh, they're 
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each other and she's just going 
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And like I try to think the best
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So, so sorry guys. 
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first like started dating my 
husband, you know, the kids were

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so little and they were so fun. 
And two of them, he only had 4 

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summers and then one of them 
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time. 
And I was like, wait, I didn't 

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sign up to be a mom right? 
Right now, Not right now. 

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Couldn't you give me a couple of
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Yeah, it all happened so fast. 
I was like, what is going on? 

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I just like thought it was going
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honest with you. 
Have you ever seen that movie 

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Stepmom? 
No, I haven't. 

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You've never seen it. 
She's a good stepmom, right? 

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She's not the evil villain. 
No, she's great. 

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It's Julia Roberts. 
Shameless plug. 

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Everyone go watch it. 
No, I'm so serious. 

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It's so good. 
You'll have to watch it and then

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we can talk about it next 
episode. 

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But anyways, I kind of, I mean, 
it's definitely realistic. 

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It shows like the hardships of 
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But I thought like, you know, 
just how it is at the end, that 

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that's how it would end up for 
me. 

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And you know, here we are. 
No, just getting kind of you 

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would hope. 
I just have a husband that is so

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like civil where he just he 
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start drama. 
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when we met and we were all 
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there was no, I was never 
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judgement on me because I wasn't
like the other woman or 

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anything. 
So this came out of left field 

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for me because she was engaged, 
you know, to her, someone that 

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she knew for a while, so and 
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So you would think that they'd 
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You just, you would never guess 
that this would be happening. 

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And you can't predict any of 
these situations and your 

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wildest imagination? 
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I've kind of talked about my 
relationship with them has gone 

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like through ups and flows and I
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we'd be in the places that we 
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So yeah, I. 
Completely understand. 

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And it's a warning to people 
that are, you know, I see 

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messages of moms that are 
saying, well, I am a stepmom, 

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but we're not married yet, you 
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and it's just kind of like I'm 
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I'm just, you know, be careful 
because it really could get bad.

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And if it's bad now, it could 
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So that's, that's my little two 
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today. 
That one is just a no, no, no, 

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no, no, no, no, we didn't know 
what we signed up for it. 

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No, we couldn't have predicted 
this. 

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No, you couldn't have created 
any of these ideas. 

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My wildest dreams. 
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that we experience with it in 
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Like, oh, I, I never thought 
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experienced as a stepmom I would
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I was like, yeah, it just threw 
me for a loop. 

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Anyways, I'm what's another myth
that we hear a lot or that some 

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of our listeners wrote in? 
So this one I saw multiple times

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which we both have experience 
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replace bio mom or that we're 
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No, no, no, no, we just want to 
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Trust me, I, I don't want to do 
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Being a mom is hard in general. 
You know, Alyssa and I are both,

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you know, bio moms to our kids 
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hard. 
No offense to my step kids, love

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them dearly. 
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of those responsibilities all 
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So I promise you, I'm not trying
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I'm just here to support my 
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possible. 
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And it's like, excuse me for 
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schools if that looks like a mom
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I mean, I, I'm, I'm confused 
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I, I thought I was supposed to 
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dinner. 
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Should I not clean their 
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I don't want to clean their two 
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dirty underwear and stuff, but 
like, what am I going to do? 

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Just let them rot and sit in 
these stinky clothes all week at

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my house? 
So it goes in line with that 

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whole step up and take care of 
these kids but don't act like 

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their mom thing, you know? 
But I will say in the early 

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stages when we were not married 
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dating, he would get remarks 
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she's she talk about me and be 
saying she's just playing house.

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And I love that one because I 
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looks like I'm playing house 
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children. 
Because no matter what, a dad is

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not a mom, he's not going to be 
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special. 
And you know, like I do every 

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holiday, I decorate the kitchen.
Valentine's Day, I love making 

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the kitchen so cute and pink and
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And then Halloween, I put 
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from like corner to ceiling, the
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corner. 
So, and it's just something I 

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like to do, but I'm not trying 
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the experience fun for the kids.
And just damned if you do, 

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damned if you don't. 
But some of these things are 

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necessary. 
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And I'm going to do it so that I
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my door saying these kids 
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Well, I can assure you, Alyssa, 
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from corner to corner and CPS is
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I'm just kidding. 
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Wow, that's crazy that you do 
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That's really sweet, though. 
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is like, OK, we do this for our 
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So do you really think I'm that 
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to leave my step kids out if I 
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and go all out? 
I always make sure everything is

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even in my house. 
If one of my kids has something,

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then the other kid has it. 
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Even like up to little things. 
Like when my son was a toddler, 

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I got him this blanket, you know
one of these bougie like bamboo 

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blankets. 
It was so expensive guys, which 

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was wild that I did that 
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Crazy. 
Yeah, but. 

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And he loves it. 
He's obsessed. 

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He sleeps with it every night. 
Well, anyways, my stepson, I was

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like, well, Becca, can I get 
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And you know what? 
I didn't want to do it because I

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didn't want to spend the money, 
but I did it because I'm going 

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to be fair. 
And so like you said, it's like,

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no, we just try to do the best 
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We're not trying to replace 
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We're just trying to treat 
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best as we know how. 
And Can you imagine, like what 

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you'd hear from the other house 
if he went home and he didn't 

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get the blanket and he was like,
she bought it for her son and 

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not for me? 
Like, I'm sorry that's we have 

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to do these things to like, 
protect our sanity too. 

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Yeah, no, absolutely, 
absolutely. 

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OK. 
I like this one. 

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Stepmoms don't have real 
parental responsibility. 

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Can we please talk about this? 
What is your take on this? 

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Again, with the like, we 
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So yeah, that that's something 
that triggered that response 

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from bio mom is that I was 
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for the baby, which he was two 
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but he was little and I was 
scheduling his first dentist 

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appointment. 
So it must have been that he was

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turning 3 because I was like, 
it's a little overdue for that. 

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And of course my husband had 
mentioned it first and nothing 

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happened. 
So we just said, OK, we'll, 

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we'll just take him and then she
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It did not go over well. 
Let's just can I just put it 

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that way. 
Obviously like stepmom and at 

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the time my husband went into 
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He went into an office to work 
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So I had a flexible job. 
So it only made sense that I 

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took him to the dentist 
appointment. 

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But Oh my gosh, why would the 
stepmom insert herself like that

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and take the kid to a dentist 
appointment? 

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God forbid this woman take care,
take care of this child and get 

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him in before it's too late. 
Wow. 

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Yeah, No, I would be happy if 
you did that. 

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You can take my son to the 
dentist. 

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Please, please do that. 
No, that's yeah. 

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It's wild. 
It's it's all just so wild. 

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How does that work for y'all if 
you have the kiddo and you have 

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to take them to the doctor? 
So you take them to the doctor 

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and then who tells mom what 
happened or about the bills or 

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saying, hey, we're going to the 
doctor because you're not under 

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a court order. 
So you don't have like strict 

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boundaries and guidelines there.
So what's what do y'all do in 

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those situations? 
Yeah, I guess we haven't really 

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talked about that before. 
So when my stepson that lives 

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with us 5050, when he did live 
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years, this is actually an 
interesting story. 

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So I was like, you know what, 
you need your annual doctor's 

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appointment. 
And so his mom has had a doctor 

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for him since he was a baby. 
And so I was like, we'll just go

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to that one, keep it simple, you
know, whatever. 

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So I make the appointment, you 
know, his mom doesn't live here 

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at that time. 
We go to the appointment. 

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Me and my husband are married at
this time, so I'm legally his 

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stepmom. 
We go there, I pick him up from 

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school, guys early, rearrange my
work schedule, all the things we

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get there. 
Oh, I'm sorry, he cannot be seen

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with you, I said. 
I'm sorry. 

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What? 
What? 

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I was so pissed and like it 
wasn't because of bio mom or 

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anything like she she was mad 
too. 

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She was like what you know. 
But they wouldn't let me go in 

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with him so I couldn't do it. 
I was so upset. 

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So you know, he ended up going 
to my son's doctor with me and 

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my doctor had no problem with 
it. 

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I don't think he knew that I was
the stepmom, but the other 

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doctor knew because bio mom had 
taken him previously before. 

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She wasn't living here for a 
little bit, but yeah, that was 

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crazy. 
And then, yeah, I mean, we're 

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pretty like chill on it. 
Like, even the other day I was 

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like, I need to make my son an A
dentist appointment. 

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And so I texted my stepson's 
mom. 

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I said, hey, do you want me to 
just take him at the same time? 

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She's like, sure. 
And, you know, and and I mean, 

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she's probably happy. 
She you know I would be happy 

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so. 
That's that's what I would have 

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thought too. 
I knew that bio mom had an 

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office job as well. 
She went in like 9 to 5 or 

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whatever. 
So I kind of just wrote it off 

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as like, you know, she's got a 
tough go at this. 

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And so because things were not 
bad yet. 

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But yeah, it was that was pretty
ridiculous. 

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And this is what I think we're 
seeing consistently is that not 

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just bio moms, but the general 
public, they have these 

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assumptions and these narratives
for us of what we should and 

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shouldn't do and what we can and
can't do. 

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But imagine how bad that is then
if bio mom went in saying that 

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is not allowed to be in a room 
alone with the kids. 

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Unprecedented and so wild just 
so that your kids aren't going 

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to the doctor's or dentist with 
dad. 

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Like it just it blows my mind 
when it comes to healthcare, 

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mental health, mental health, 
any of this. 

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We shouldn't put any limits. 
If someone can take these kids 

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take up, who cares who's taking 
them? 

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And at the end of the day, the 
one making just get decisions is

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that professional. 
So it's not like if I take the 

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kid to the doctor that I'm 
diagnosing them with something 

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and I'm medicating them. 
So well, and it's not like 

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either of us would ever make 
like a serious medical decision 

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without their input. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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Like, we're not going to be 
like, oh, he needs surgery. 

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Let's just do it. 
You know, come on. 

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We would obviously consult the 
other party this. 

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Is partly a topic for another 
day, though. 

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Yes. 
No, absolutely. 

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Let's move on. 
What's the next one? 

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Let's see the myth someone wrote
that we are not involved in kids

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sports. 
Honey, if I could show you, 

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don't get me started my bank 
statement. 

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Let's talk about summer sports. 
Whoa, these kids are little 

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still. 
We're not even in middle school 

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yet. 
So the fact that we're having to

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pay these outrageous summer 
camps and summer sports, and let

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me just tell you, the 10 year 
old right now, he's into 

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cooking, cooking classes, super 
fun, super notchy. 

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A little Anthony Bourdain on our
hands, OK. 

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We are so involved besides 
paying the big fat bills or 

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splitting the bills we are going
and if we're not there then 

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maybe we have a bio baby at home
and ours baby that's napping 

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like me. 
Exactly, exactly. 

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No, I don't miss one of my 
stepsons games. 

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I love going to them. 
In fact, sometimes I think I'm a

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little louder than bio mom and 
she like laughs at me, but she 

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she like, she likes it, you 
know, it's just, it's just 

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funny. 
Yeah. 

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No, we're really involved. 
I I drive to practices, I drive 

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back and forth. 
Yes, you do it all. 

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And you see Instagram and it has
a soccer field. 

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That's Becca. 
I'm. 

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Not the soccer. 
I'm not the soccer stepmom at 

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all. 
Yes. 

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No, both of you know, my stepson
and then my bio son, that's all 

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we do soccer, soccer, soccer. 
So no, I, I love it. 

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That's that's funny though. 
Why wouldn't we be involved in 

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kids sports? 
Like it's fun and I think also a

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lot of things too. 
I just thought about this. 

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It shows an example to our ours 
babies too, like those are their

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siblings. 
They love them so much. 

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So of course I'm going to do 
that because I would do it for 

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my own son. 
So why wouldn't I do it for him?

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You know, And I think it shows 
something if I was just like, 

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no, it's just my stepson's game,
I'm going to stay home. 

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Like, you know, his brother, my 
son would be like, wait, what? 

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You know, it's confusing. 
Yeah, I definitely, I encourage 

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the kids to go to my daughter's 
ballet practice and watch her. 

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Not all the time because that is
definitely not like a sport to 

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watch. 
That's fun. 

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But I encourage them to go and 
so my husband can come too. 

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So we'll all go and sit and 
watch ballet sometimes and in 

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reverse, I like my daughter to 
go to watch the boys, whatever 

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sport they're doing, which is 
changing all the time. 

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But it's setting a lesson, 
setting an example for sure. 

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And you know, showing up for our
step kids says a lot. 

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And I think that deep down, they
really appreciate that we're 

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there, whether they say it or 
show it or feel like they can 

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say it or show it. 
Because no, definitely more 

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people in the crowd is more 
exciting. 

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More names being, more people 
calling your name. 

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That's just like more 
Christmases, more presents. 

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Exactly. 
Yeah, I know. 

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I'm my stepson recently. 
Was student of the month and he 

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came home the other day and he 
was like, hey Becca, I got 

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student of the month. 
There's this thing at school I 

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really want you and dad to be 
there. 

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I was I was like, OK, and I like
don't hear him correctly or 

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clearly. 
And I was like, wait, you want 

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us to come like I said, do you 
want just your dad to come like 

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because him and I are like very 
open and we're pretty close like

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I've mentioned. 
So he would like tell me he has 

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no problem hurting my feelings. 
And honestly, I have really 

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tough skin when it comes to it 
now after all these years. 

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And he's like, no, I want, I 
want you to come too. 

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And, you know, all three of us 
went and we all sat together and

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we did it. 
And, you know, sometimes things 

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might be a little awkward, but, 
you know, we all went so. 

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Last thing on this myth that I 
want to debunk for the moms or 

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the stepmoms on the other side 
of this is that I have pulled 

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back a little bit from going to 
school functions and school 

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events simply because two 
things. 

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I have my own kids now. 
So their schedule is still is 

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still, you know, relevant and 
it's very demanding with babies 

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and their nap schedule. 
And then my daughter being taken

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to her Mother's Day out program.
So a lot of things I have to 

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miss like the seven-year old, 
he's getting some school award 

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on Wednesday at and it's 8:00 
AM, but this is a 15 minute 

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thing. 
The school is 2530 minutes away 

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and it's right after morning 
drop off. 

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So my husband will be dropping 
off anyway. 

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So he's certainly going to be 
there and I just am not going to

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make that one because a, I'd 
have to get my sleeping baby out

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of bed, which I don't believe in
and my toddler will be getting 

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ready for her school drop off. 
So some things I can't do like 

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physically I can't make happen 
because I'm not I can't be in 

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three places at once. 
But then I also have started to 

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pull back on events where bio 
mom is there because it's better

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for me mentally, it helps my 
sanity, so it helps my household

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and it helps my kids because I 
can show up more for my kids 

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when I'm only doing as much as I
can handle. 

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The school functions to me, if 
I'm writing like which ones I'm 

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going to remove, some of those 
over sports would be the ones to

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remove. 
But so any moms are getting 

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backlash or stepmoms that are 
getting backlash that they're 

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not at school functions or 
sporting events. 

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I think, you know, the general 
public needs to look at maybe 

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why maybe she's not allowed to 
be there because bio mom went 

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crazy. 
Maybe she's choosing not to be 

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there to protect her sanity and 
to protect her children. 

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Maybe she's choosing not to be 
there because her kids lives 

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will be too affected if she goes
to every event. 

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So that's my Ted Talk on that 
one. 

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Yeah, and I just want to add 
something really quick to that. 

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So also think about like normal 
nuclear families, moms can't go 

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to everything. 
Even in normal families, you 

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know, you might not be able to 
go to every function. 

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You know, like my bio son during
Christmas, I was the only one 

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out of me and my husband that 
was able to go to his school 

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function and he didn't go. 
And vice versa. 

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That come, you know, happens 
sometimes. 

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But you know, bio moms never get
backlash for that. 

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But stepmoms, you know, it's 
such a double standard there. 

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But no I. 
Agree. 

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Yeah, let's look at it. 
Go ahead. 

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No, I was going to say it's just
like I was saying is it is OK to

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pull back like you were saying 
because sometimes it is just too

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contentious and sometimes I'm 
like, no, I'd just rather not 

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for today. 
But in the beginning I made sure

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to be at everything because I 
felt like obligated to. 

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I don't know why no one put that
obligation on me. 

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I guess I just put it on myself.
Oh, man, yes, we've got a little

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hot and heated on that one. 
OK, I have another one. 

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Are you ready for this? 
This is like more of a 

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judgmental myth. 
OK, this is a good one. 

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Stepmoms are mean. 
The evil stepmom. 

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Here we go. 
Go Becca. 

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I mean, I feel like growing up, 
didn't you think like stepmoms 

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were mean? 
I don't know. 

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It's just like. 
I did, but I didn't like, 

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believe everything I heard in 
like, Cinderella or whatever. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
I just always had like a 

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negative perspective on stepmoms
in general. 

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And I'm not really sure where 
like I got that from, but I 

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definitely just thought. 
Stepmoms were mean and it's not 

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true. 
Well, and I think that people, 

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you know, it's kind of like the 
other myth that we were going to

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talk about too. 
Stepmom shouldn't complain. 

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It's like, okay, well, we put 
boundaries. 

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So then, you know, we're seeing 
as we're complaining or that 

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we're cruel, you know, And it's 
like, no, honey, I have 

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boundaries with my own son, you 
know, and I don't feel mean. 

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In fact, you know, he told me 
their day. 

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He's like, mommy, you're being 
mean. 

447
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,560
I said that means I'm doing a 
good job, you know? 

448
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,840
But if I set the same boundary 
with my stepson, sometimes it is

449
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,000
received differently. 
And it doesn't mean I mean I'm 

450
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,680
just trying to parent the same 
way. 

451
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,680
Yeah, I want to dig into that 
one that you mentioned too. 

452
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:40,800
But real quick, I was writing 
something with another stepmom 

453
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,840
the other day and I was like, 
you know, what would happen if 

454
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,600
the stepmom villain, the evil 
stepmom narrative didn't exist? 

455
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,600
What would people do? 
Like they would lose their 

456
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,040
minds. 
They would. 

457
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:57,720
They would have no one to blame.
They would have no one to blame.

458
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,480
Right. 
Yep, exactly. 

459
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,400
And so it couldn't like we are 
the mirror for bio moms because 

460
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,520
whether they left or they were 
left or they lost custody for 

461
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,320
some reason, we are what they 
can't be 50% of the time, 25% 

462
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,160
whenever they're not seeing 
their kids, we are the only 

463
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000
replacement option. 
And not that we're a 

464
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,560
replacement, but we are the only
other female mother age figure 

465
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,120
in that household doing the same
kind of daily duties and 

466
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,000
household chores. 
Like whether you want to say or 

467
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,240
not, we are a mother figure in 
this house. 

468
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,000
There, I said it. 
No, it's so true. 

469
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,560
And remember the other day I 
texted you about what my son 

470
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,520
said? 
This like is a perfect segue. 

471
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,440
No, no, no go. 
I don't remember too many texts.

472
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,560
So you know, my son, he's like 3
1/2. 

473
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,520
So he's starting to get confused
because now my stepson is going 

474
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,880
back and forth and he has to 
live with us full time. 

475
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,040
The other day we're driving and 
he goes, I was, I think I was 

476
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,480
talking to you. 
And he goes, mommy, what's a 

477
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,320
stepmom? 
Why do you keep saying that? 

478
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,320
Because I was voice texting you.
Yeah. 

479
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,920
And I go, well, a stepmom is who
I am to, you know, your brother.

480
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,680
And I said his name and he was 
like, wait, what? 

481
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,200
He's like, I thought you were 
his mommy. 

482
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,960
I was like, no, I'm his 
stepmomy. 

483
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,440
He goes, well, what's a stepmom?
And I said, well, it's kind of 

484
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,400
like a fake mom that does all 
the mom stuff. 

485
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,240
He was like, he goes, that's 
weird. 

486
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,200
They said, I know it is weird, 
you know, And then we moved on. 

487
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,960
But I thought it was so. 
Funny, yeah, that was, I mean, I

488
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,760
mean it's true. 
It's true. 

489
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280
And it's just bio moms, you 
know, they're going to hate to 

490
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,000
hear it because we are a mirror 
for them. 

491
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,440
And that sucks for them to look 
at and it sucks for them to see.

492
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,960
It sucks for them to feel. 
What was the other myth? 

493
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,000
You were saying that like, we 
can't, you know, discipline or 

494
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,120
something or? 
Oh, this one, this one is just 

495
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,320
we all we'll have to have a 
whole episode for this one. 

496
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,680
But the discipline that we can't
discipline them the same way. 

497
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,720
And it's just, and I think and 
that's why we'll have to have a 

498
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,080
whole episode on it. 
I think our partners are a large

499
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,080
part of this too, you know? 
It's just, I don't know. 

500
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,000
I discipline my son however I 
want. 

501
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,200
I don't think twice about it. 
I don't look at anyone in my 

502
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,200
home for reassurance. 
I just do what feels natural. 

503
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,600
Now if I did that to my step 
kids, I'm questioning myself. 

504
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,160
I'm questioning my parenting 
skills, if it's the right 

505
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,080
verbiage that I'm using. 
If the delivery is nice enough, 

506
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,360
my son, I'm like go do this now.
You know, I don't even think 

507
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,520
twice about it. 
Yeah. 

508
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680
And you have to pick and choose 
with your step kids on what 

509
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,720
you're going to discipline and 
what you're going to, you know, 

510
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,480
acknowledge or what you're going
to. 

511
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,520
Like half the time stepmoming 
and disciplining is pretending 

512
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,560
that you didn't hear or see 
something so that you don't have

513
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,400
to choose to ignore it and make 
the step kid think it was OK or 

514
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,960
you don't have to discipline 
them and make them hate you or 

515
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,240
make bio mom say like she's 
terrible for punishing you. 

516
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,960
In our home, we obviously have 
this really dark cloud that 

517
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:23,400
looms over us all the time 
called CPS and it's so tragic. 

518
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,600
It's horrible. 
But you know, CPS, every time 

519
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,920
they come, they're like, no, you
know, this happens a lot. 

520
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,840
We see this happen all the time.
And at the end of the day, you 

521
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,600
know, you can't not discipline a
child. 

522
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,280
And like, that would be actual 
means for CPS to be there. 

523
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,720
Like, if you didn't discipline a
kid and you just let them do 

524
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520
whatever they want, hatching the
trouble they get into, the 

525
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,560
danger, the they would hurt 
themselves all the time. 

526
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,640
Yeah, I think like one thing 
being like the little 1, you 

527
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,440
know, when he was taking baths 
and then when he transitioned to

528
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,040
like a shower, of course they 
have shower curtains and they 

529
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,960
actually have like 3 shower 
curtains because I do like the 

530
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,000
cute curtains that look like 
curtains I drape in front of 

531
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,560
them. 
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

532
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,640
No, I know you're talking about.
So nobody's playing peekaboo. 

533
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:20,040
But yeah, it ended up being like
a desperate cry for custody and 

534
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,040
social work with CPS was just 
like, we've seen this complaint 

535
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,360
before, too. 
We've heard this narrative of 

536
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,960
like, you know, stepmom and 
stepdad are sorry. 

537
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,120
The parents in this home, like 
bio dad and stepmom, they are 

538
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,400
watching the kids in the bath or
shower. 

539
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,200
And she looked at me and she 
said this little boy is 2 1/2. 

540
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,360
She was like, I hope you watch 
him or I will have to come to 

541
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,920
your house. 
If you do not watch this little 

542
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,680
boy standing in a bathtub 
standing in a shower, I. 

543
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,560
Was like great, thanks see you 
later. 

544
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,080
It's great visit. 
Nice talk with you. 

545
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,400
Oh my gosh. 
See. 

546
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,080
And it's like, that's like so 
sad to me because it's like 

547
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,200
you're just trying to like be a 
good stepmom and like, make sure

548
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,640
he's safe. 
How dare I? 

549
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,960
You know, it's like, what? 
Why are you trying to make me 

550
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200
out to be some creep? 
You're the creep for even 

551
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,480
thinking it like you weirdo. 
You know, like it's just, that's

552
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600
just sad to me. 
What a weirdo. 

553
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,360
So true. 
All right, what's another one? 

554
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,360
Let's go through these that 
stepmoms shouldn't complain. 

555
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Welcome to stepmom side chats 
the complaint corner Submit the 

556
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,880
complaint sound of the town. 
Yeah. 

557
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,600
And it's like, though, that's 
why I think you and I like are 

558
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,960
so happy that we have each other
is because if I talk to one of 

559
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,840
my other friends about being a 
stepmom who is not a stepmom, 

560
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,000
which really don't have any 
stepmoms friends, they don't 

561
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,400
understand. 
They try to, but like they're 

562
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,920
just like, oh, I feel bad they 
didn't choose this. 

563
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,320
And it's like, yes, I know they 
didn't choose this. 

564
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,040
I'm not saying they chose this, 
but what about me? 

565
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,440
It's like, OK, I'm still human, 
you know, like, I still want to 

566
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,520
be happy in my life. 
Just because they didn't choose 

567
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,040
this doesn't mean that I 
shouldn't, you know, get upset 

568
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,080
or annoyed if they leave their 
shoes in the middle of the 

569
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,200
floor. 
I get annoyed of my own son, you

570
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,840
know, and I complain. 
Like I'll tell my husband 

571
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,680
sometimes I'm like, you know, I 
need a break from, you know, my 

572
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,200
son, you know, and I'll say his 
name, obviously. 

573
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,480
And so, you know, we'll tag 
team. 

574
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,880
But if I said that about my 
stepson, evil, evil, evil, evil,

575
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,160
evil, I'm the devil. 
Even even like complaining, if 

576
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640
I've complained to my friends 
about it, who are moms but 

577
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,720
aren't stepmoms, like they don't
say it like come out right and 

578
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,200
say it, but they'll like kind of
look at me and I can feel the 

579
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,600
judgement. 
They're just like, oh, OK. 

580
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,520
And I'm like, I'm like, OK, 
well, guess I can't talk to you 

581
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,920
about this. 
I'll text Alyssa. 

582
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,640
That's why we're here. 
Yeah, we definitely are making 

583
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,760
that a podcast episode in the 
near future too. 

584
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,920
So don't DM us saying talk to us
about friendships with being a 

585
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,160
stepmom. 
You know, we have that coming 

586
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,080
and we want to dive deep into 
that realm of like what it's 

587
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,240
like having friendships with 
other people that are not 

588
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,200
stepmoms. 
How do you find stepmoms to be 

589
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,280
friends with? 
And you know, that's a, this is 

590
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,560
a whole Rd. 
We have lengthy stories about 

591
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,720
what's gone on in our 
friendships with friends that we

592
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,440
had before we came a stepmom and
how they watched our lives 

593
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,000
evolve and change. 
The crazy thing is that that 

594
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400
doesn't know yet. 
You know, Becca and I, we were 

595
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,080
in college together freshman 
year. 

596
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,560
So this is, Oh my gosh, I don't 
want to age ourselves. 

597
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,600
We're not that old. 
But like, is this 15 years ago? 

598
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,880
Yes, I was doing the math last 
night and I was like, Oh my 

599
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,040
gosh, this is crazy. 
I was like, how wild is it that 

600
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,440
like, you know, the universe or 
God or whatever you believe in 

601
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,960
was like, oh. 
These two girls in college that 

602
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480
used to party together are going
to be stepmoms one day. 

603
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,360
Like that's just so wild to me, 
so wild. 

604
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,560
Well, and I truly believe that 
we were both put at that college

605
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,320
for this greater purpose down 
the road because two things, My 

606
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,040
gosh, I would be dying the past 
five years if I didn't have you.

607
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,760
I seriously, this world, the 
stepmom community is so small. 

608
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,080
We do not have a village and it 
takes a village, it takes an 

609
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,520
army, but we don't have that. 
But bio moms, you know, they 

610
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,280
have those left, right and up 
and down. 

611
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,880
You know, it's, it's impossible 
to survive this without someone.

612
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,600
But it just shows because we 
both went to this university 

613
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:59,240
where neither one of us belong 
whatsoever is in a city that's 

614
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,920
literally tagged the armpit of 
Texas. 

615
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,840
I didn't know that. 
That's so funny. 

616
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,760
Yeah, we were bored there, 
y'all. 

617
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,000
We were bored. 
So we both bolted and bailed. 

618
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,720
We're from big cities. 
We went back to big cities, we 

619
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,920
went to big colleges, we got big
girl degrees, and we moved on 

620
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,880
with our life. 
But The thing is, we were there 

621
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,080
for one year and I think that we
were brought there for this 

622
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,880
greater purpose because we kept 
in touch here and there. 

623
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,280
But we really, really got closer
and closer and closer as we 

624
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,840
started having, you know, these 
relationships with a man that 

625
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,160
had kids. 
So I would say go fishing and go

626
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,440
find yourself a mommy friend 
that has go fishing. 

627
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,120
No, that's a no. 
And I think that's the perfect 

628
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,840
segue because I feel like if I 
don't have you, I might be 

629
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,440
divorced. 
And I know that's a really raw 

630
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,080
statement. 
Oh yes. 

631
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,840
But I think that is that's 
another myth that we hear all 

632
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,000
the time. 
If you're unhappy, you should 

633
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,280
just leave like. 
Oh, OK, I'll just pack up my 

634
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,120
suitcase and zip up my tent and 
I'll see you later. 

635
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,680
Yeah, OK. 
Bye. 

636
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,000
Yeah. 
Are you crazy? 

637
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,760
Yeah. 
Like, oh, getting into divorce 

638
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,720
is just so easy. 
Like, let me just sign the 

639
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,280
papers and, you know, be on my 
merry way. 

640
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,960
Like, sorry for real. 
Like, no, we both know also 

641
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,160
having step kids is that 
marriage is hard. 

642
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,320
Families are hard. 
And in no way, shape or form 

643
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,800
should you just give up that 
easily when things get hard. 

644
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:41,280
I'm a huge believer in keeping 
families together. 

645
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,880
You know, of course, if there's 
some things like abuse going on,

646
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,880
you know, we don't want that. 
But, you know, it's hard. 

647
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080
And yeah, people say, oh, well, 
just leave. 

648
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,480
And I think that they forget, 
like, these families and 

649
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,920
marriages, they're not 
disposable. 

650
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,240
And honestly, you know, I've 
thought about this in the past. 

651
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,080
And the early days of being a 
stepmom is my step kids. 

652
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,000
I think, you know, I'm not 
always their favorite person, 

653
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,240
but I really do think that they 
would be devastated and that 

654
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,520
their lives would look 
completely different. 

655
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,200
And I think you could say the 
same too, because I know those 

656
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,160
boys love you, you know? 
So I hear, but some days it's 

657
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440
hard to believe, it's hard to 
feel loved. 

658
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,240
But yeah, my, my two cents on 
this topic is that I just, I 

659
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:35,760
love the idea of sure, you can 
leave whenever you want, but we 

660
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160
really can't. 
I mean, if you were in a 

661
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,360
terrible toxic relationship, 
that's what I would say to that 

662
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,200
kind of person. 
You can leave whenever you want.

663
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,760
But The thing is, we're one step
removed from this situation 

664
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:52,840
because bio mom is not our ex. 
So we can step away whenever we 

665
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,360
want. 
We can go take a trip whenever 

666
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,480
we want. 
We can step out of the courtroom

667
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,200
whenever we want because this is
not directly our problem. 

668
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,880
But The thing is, since we love 
our spouse and we care for these

669
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,920
children and we don't want 
anyone to hurt, we take all 

670
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,400
these measures upon ourselves. 
And so we put ourselves into 

671
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,200
this. 
But we can remove ourselves as 

672
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,840
much as we want, as much as we 
can. 

673
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,040
And that's another whole episode
on like self-care and 

674
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,400
disengaging, stepping away, 
taking time for yourself. 

675
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,640
I want to dive real quick into 
some listener questions before 

676
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,960
we run out of time. 
I have. 

677
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,320
Do you have one, Becca? 
I have one here. 

678
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,760
It says. 
Yeah, you go first. 

679
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,640
Says How do you stay calm when 
bio mom is constantly trying to 

680
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,400
provoke you? 
Step back, I guess, like Alyssa 

681
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,280
said earlier in this episode is 
maybe not go to those shared 

682
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,280
sporting events or school events
and try to, you know, protect 

683
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,080
your own peace and your own 
mental health as best as you 

684
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,800
can, regardless of maybe it 
might make your step kids sad if

685
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,760
you don't go to something like 
you have to do what you got to 

686
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,440
do and limit communication would
be my number one thing. 

687
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,800
Have that be between, you know 
your partner and her and just 

688
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,520
try to stay out of it as much as
you possibly can and just be 

689
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,640
more of a support role is what I
would. 

690
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:31,280
Say, OK, I'm going to do one 
more because this one, how do 

691
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,640
you deal with constant schedule 
changes? 

692
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,760
I'm interestingly enough, I've 
been seeing these questions a 

693
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,880
lot or these comments, and this 
wasn't anything that ever 

694
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120
affected me back. 
I think this might have affected

695
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,600
you more because my family, as 
everyone knows, we're under the 

696
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,040
court agreement and the 5050 
whatever. 

697
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,600
But we've had our first big 
change, which came from 

698
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,120
mediation. 
And I don't want to get into 

699
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,240
details about it, but you know, 
custody did change a little bit.

700
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:11,800
And for how minor it changed 
like 2% from 5050, it was 2% It 

701
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,200
is. 
Alarming how much it affected 

702
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,720
me. 
And it's really affected, like, 

703
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,920
you know, our flow and just 
trying to get things back in 

704
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,560
order. 
And I think everyone's feeling a

705
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,400
little bit. 
I've seen it on the kids, I've 

706
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,040
seen it on my husband. 
And it's affecting me for sure. 

707
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,360
But yeah. 
Wait, wait. 

708
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,000
Sorry. 
Yeah, I'm going to talk about 

709
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,560
that. 
But wait, 2%. 

710
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,480
What was it like 2 hours that 
you gave the other party? 

711
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,480
I know you can't talk too much 
about it, but 2%? 

712
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,400
Oh my Jesus. 
The legal legal matters are the 

713
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,400
only things I want to bulge 
here. 

714
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,600
No, no, no, you don't have to go
into it, but I'm just like kind 

715
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,680
of laughing because it's like 
the way, you know, when it gets 

716
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,800
to the court system, it's like 
we're really fighting over 2%. 

717
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,040
Oh, OK. 
What our attorney said was he 

718
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,280
said, I know that the mediator 
will probably agree with me, but

719
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,600
the worst day in court is 
fighting for standard custody 

720
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,440
order and standard custody 
order, which is not what we have

721
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,680
either. 
But to give you an example, 

722
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,840
standard is the whole, at least 
here in Texas, it's every other 

723
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,720
weekend for dad and then the 
opposite Thursdays. 

724
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,560
So like, we obviously didn't do 
that because who wants the kid 

725
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,840
for one day in the middle of the
week, like to mess up their 

726
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,720
whole week and like mess up 
their whole, like, mental state 

727
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,080
routine? 
Yeah, yeah, it's not good for 

728
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:40,520
anyone, not good for me. 
But the way we kind of came to 

729
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,600
an agreement to avoid, avoid 
court and, you know, deal with 

730
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,040
this and mediation was the 
mediator said you have to get 

731
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,120
creative. 
So it was certain things like we

732
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,240
would throw around like we want 
every spring break. 

733
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,160
Well, that didn't happen. 
But we started saying like, 

734
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,000
let's adjust our Christmas 
breaks. 

735
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,040
Let's adjust, you know, Easter 
because one household celebrates

736
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,680
and is religious and the other 
is not. 

737
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,800
And so like in legal court 
systems, Easter is actually not 

738
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,680
considered a holiday that you 
would like switch. 

739
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,920
So the ones that you know, 
you're usually granted every 

740
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,040
other year would be Christmas 
and Thanksgiving. 

741
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,800
And then we adjusted like kids 
birthday stuff. 

742
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,720
They were just ways that we 
tweaked it. 

743
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:31,120
But the way that we presented it
was where she would feel like we

744
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,640
gave up some time so that she 
could walk away and be happy. 

745
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:40,120
But in the end, if you really 
dig into like what we traded, it

746
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:46,720
only ended up being a 2% shift. 
So but that was still so big 

747
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,080
because now we switch on a 
different day, which throws me 

748
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,160
for a loop because it used to be
Friday to Friday. 

749
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,760
And so it was like, we get them 
and it's weekend, but now it's 

750
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,640
like a school night and we get 
them here and they'd go to bed 

751
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400
and they wake up first in the 
morning to go to school. 

752
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,760
And it's like, Oh my gosh, I'm 
going to forget to make a lunch.

753
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,520
And I think like from our 
partners point of view, it's 

754
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,920
like, OK, yeah, 2% to stepmoms 
were like like whatever, it's 

755
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,120
not a big deal. 
But if we put ourselves in our 

756
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,520
partners shoes and those were 
our bio kids that we had to 

757
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,760
share time with, that's still 2%
of their lives and that would 

758
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,520
suck. 
So no, I can empathize. 

759
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,760
Back to schedule changes. 
So for a schedule changes for 

760
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,120
me, yeah, I'm still not dealing 
with it very well. 

761
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,440
I think like over time I've 
started to deal with it a little

762
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,120
bit better, but plans are 
constantly changing. 

763
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,600
And you know, that's just kind 
of how my husband is in general.

764
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,600
He's kind of just like a go with
the flow, like, oh whatever, you

765
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,480
know me. 
They are. 

766
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Why is that? 
I don't know. 

767
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,240
I don't know. 
I like to plan things like in 

768
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:56,080
advance, like I have my calendar
for two months planned out like 

769
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,200
I am psycho. 
I mean, Alyssa probably even 

770
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,240
knows a little bit now since we 
started this podcast. 

771
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:01,840
I'm like, here's your To Do 
List. 

772
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,640
You know this is what you have 
to do. 

773
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,080
It's your anagram number again, 
and whoever commented an anagram

774
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,040
specialist on our last podcast, 
I completely appreciate you and 

775
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,720
we're reaching out, so thank you
for that. 

776
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,320
But yeah, yeah, I can't wait to 
talk about that more. 

777
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,040
Your type A, I'm not so, but I'm
not organized. 

778
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,720
So where does what's that like? 
Where do I fit in there? 

779
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,240
We're going to have to figure it
out, but yeah, I know. 

780
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:31,120
So it like makes me so mad when 
schedules changes and especially

781
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,240
because it's like a stepmoms, it
affects us like everyone's like 

782
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,160
Oh well, it's just you know, 
it's about the kid. 

783
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,960
It's like, OK, once again, I get
that, but it's like I had this 

784
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,760
scheduled with my own kid at 
that time, or I thought I was 

785
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,800
going to do this, or the biggest
part is not being mentally 

786
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,200
prepared. 
I have to be mentally prepared. 

787
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,320
And something that I do think 
has helped me over the years 

788
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,760
that I will say to this listener
question is my husband knows 

789
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,000
this about me now. 
So he prepares me better and 

790
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,400
prepares all of the visits a lot
better and more in advance. 

791
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,880
And he will ask me now, hey, 
does this day and time work for 

792
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,200
you? 
Whereas before it's just like 

793
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,760
it's just was what it was. 
So I kind of set a boundary 

794
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,520
there, which we'll get into next
episode. 

795
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:22,200
Yeah. 
Before we wrap up though, I 

796
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,160
wanted to thank everyone for 
participating in the Sunday 

797
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,960
Stepmom Scary's. 
I have loved reading these 

798
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:35,600
because they're so natural, so 
raw and I will tell y'all I'm 

799
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,360
always trying to repost and 
share them but they keep growing

800
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,920
and I like a post a full page 
and then we have a whole new 

801
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,120
page and I put mine in there so 
y'all will never know. 

802
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,840
But mine is mixed in there too. 
And I will never chat about it 

803
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,080
on the podcast because I am, you
know, going to keep that tidbit 

804
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,000
to myself. 
But that's, you know, we're 

805
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,360
welcoming y'all into this, the 
side chats. 

806
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,880
And we hope you feel included 
and like, you know, this is an 

807
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,840
inclusive place. 
It's not exclusive. 

808
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,320
It is exclusive though. 2 
stepmoms. 

809
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,120
So yeah, we're hoping to help 
your community grow, make you 

810
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,200
feel like, you know, you're 
loved and supported as well. 

811
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,720
So keep the questions coming. 
Keep the stepmoms. 

812
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:22,920
Scary's poppin, but I guess 
that's all we have time for 

813
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,160
today. 
Yes, yes we'll see everyone next

814
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,320
week. 
We are so excited for next 

815
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,600
week's episode. 
Stay tuned we are going to have 

816
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,000
a guest with us. 
And yeah, we hope you all have a

817
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,480
good week and get some self-care
and see y'all 2 dolls. 

818
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,840
That's it for this week on 
Stepmom Side Chats. 

819
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,840
We're Alyssa and Becca, your 
stepmom besties. 

820
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,240
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said. 

821
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:55,440
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822
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,560
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823
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000
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824
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,640
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825
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,080
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826
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
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You're doing better than you 

827
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,520
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