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Hey everyone, welcome to Stepmom
Side Chats. 

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We are your hosts, Alyssa and 
Rebecca, 2. 

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Stepmoms who are done pretending
everything's perfect. 

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This is where we talk 
boundaries, PO parenting, hard 

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truths, healing, and the stuff 
nobody says out loud. 

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If you're ready for real talk, 
real growth and a little. 

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Bit of spice. 
Let's get into it. 

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Hey, good afternoon. 
Welcome. 

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Everybody, good morning to those
of us on the West Coast. 

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I'm so sorry. 
Here in central Well, and we 

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have listeners in Australia, 
apparently in Germany. 

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I'm loving this. 
So goodnight to y'all. 

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I don't know, like they're 
sleeping right now, I guess. 

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I know Lucky. 
I love sleep. 

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That's all I think about guys. 
Sleep, sleep, sleep. 

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That's because you're a stepmom.
Yeah. 

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So we have some nitty gritty to 
get down to something that has 

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been recurring and a lot of 
messages from stepmoms, 

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something that is coming up in 
the stepmom side chat membership

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in our little vent space between
stepmoms. 

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So thought that this was really 
necessary and appropriate right 

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now. 
So let's get into it. 

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I don't think you know, everyone
has told us you'll you sign up 

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for this. 
You know, you got yourself into 

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and we've discussed that, but 
there's the level of no one 

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really explaining to us how 
horrible it is feeling like 

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you're in competition with 
another household. 

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Am I right or am I right? 
Like Mic drop. 

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That is the epitome of set mom 
life is it's so much work to 

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constantly compete and keep up 
with the Jones or you know, the 

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Johnsons, whatever bio mom's 
last name is. 

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The Johnsons, you and your one 
liner. 

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I know Alyssa has a one year old
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So like he's still in that sleep
cycle area thing. 

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I don't know, I'm not even 
making sense. 

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He's in that, you know, sleep 
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inconsistent. 
So let's just a little. 

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Tired sometimes. 
Never heard of keeping up with 

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the Joneses? 
I've heard of keeping up with 

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the Joneses, but not the 
Johnsons. 

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I'm saying whatever bio moms 
last name is, that's who we're 

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keeping up with lately. 
True, true. 

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No. 
I love this topic because like 

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Alyssa just said, a lot of 
people are, you know, reaching 

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out to us and talking about the 
constant pressure that they feel

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to, you know, be as good as or, 
you know, whatever what have you

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as bio mom's house. 
So I love that we're talking 

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about this today. 
Yes, it's the noise, the 

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constant pressure and it's not 
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blatant and it's not always the 
kid just saying, well, why don't

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we do this? 
Because we do it at mom's house.

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You it's also it can kind of 
show up in other ways and we're 

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going to get into that. 
Today's just a quick story. 

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Something I have as an example 
of this I wanted to share with 

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everyone is Once Upon a time, we
deal with this quite often and I

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don't think that Becca's 
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aspect because the kids are 5050
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So, so the way that they have 
this, you know, the pickup is 

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the same day of the week, you 
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drop off was Friday. 
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so hard was how we did pick up 
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And it was apparent through the 
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It wasn't like the kids 
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anything, but it became an issue
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And who, what house are they at?
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go to school in mom's 
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from school. 
But on our weeks we live so they

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certainly cannot walk home. 
So we have to do like the pick 

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up through the carpool or walk 
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up. 
And it just it becomes a hassle 

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and it's annoying. 
And I can see it on the kids. 

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They don't complain about this, 
but I know that they want to 

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walk home because it's cool and 
all the other kids are and they 

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have to wait in the carpool 
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So this is just one of the 
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that. 
Like, I can't make it different 

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for the kids. 
My husband's just like, you have

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to let it go. 
And you know why? 

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I said, oh, OK, I'll just, I'll 
just let it go. 

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I know, I know. 
It's so hard. 

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It's like, I don't know, I feel 
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everything so much more 
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Yeah, I have kind of a similar 
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It was on Easter one year and I 
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another episode. 
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So disclaimer, if you have kids 
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Fast forward through the section
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here, obviously. 
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Easter Bunny when our step kids 
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was so excited to do all these 
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I was so tired because my son 
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Alyssa's son is right now. 
So his sleep was like so 

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inconsistent. 
I was exhausted, right, as all 

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moms are. 
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make these like really cute, you
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for my step kids. 
And it was whatever, right? 

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Well, my step kids at this age, 
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Bunny is. 
They know it's me, but you know,

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it's still kind of like an 
unsaid thing. 

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So whatever, you know, Fast 
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know, I put them out, I do all 
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my blood. 
But they're just kids. 

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They don't understand, but it's 
just interesting anyways. 

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So they were like, they're like,
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They're like these Easter 
baskets suck. 

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The ones at my mom's house are 
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Better. 
What? 

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I went into a spiral. 
Everyone, like, I was so upset, 

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and I didn't obviously, like, 
say anything to them, but I said

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to my husband. 
But that's what it reminded me 

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of Alyssa is because my 
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deal. 
Who cares? 

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I'm like, who cares? 
What do you mean? 

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Who cares? 
That's so rude. 

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Yeah. 
I'm like, that's so rude, you 

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know, It's so ungrateful. 
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kind of know what they're doing.
I hate to say that, but I'm 

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sorry. 
I just think it's true. 

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That's why the difference is 
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being a stepmom like Alyssa and 
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They're never going to even have
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us because all they're going to 
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they're going to think they're 
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with dollar store items or Gucci
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And what a privilege it is to 
have an ours baby or to be a mom

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that doesn't have step kids and 
can do as much or as little as 

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they want and it be like the 
greatest thing ever. 

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Unfortunately that is not the 
case for stepmoms. 

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So let's dig into how we deal 
with this and cope with this. 

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And in Becca's example there of 
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wanted for Easter and it was 
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enough. 
I am the reverse. 

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Becca and I are such a yin and 
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We are complete opposites but 
calmly on each other so well. 

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So I am the complete opposite. 
I go above. 

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I'm extra and that's just who I 
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pulls out into my stepmom life 
where I am thinking like, I hope

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they think my enough is as great
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And so I'm worrying even though 
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what Mom's Easter looks like or 
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I'm worrying and I'm like, 
hoping for whatever reason, I'm 

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wanting to be like a better 
Easter or them to look forward 

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to a holiday at my house, you 
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Because I do love these kids, 
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So yeah, I do want them to love 
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But at what expense? 
We have got to get into how 

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we're all going to cope with if 
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we are enough, and we'll give 
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which it took us a long time to 
learn and we're still 

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practicing. 
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still learning some of those 
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Right, right, right. 
So there is that unspoken 

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pressure that we talked about 
like no one says it out loud, 

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but you feel it, right? 
So who's more fun? 

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Who's more loved? 
Who's doing it right? 

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In my situation, we have bio 
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have any other kids with her new
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So I think a lot about this of 
like, oh, when my littles go to 

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bed because they're like babies,
the kids all have to be quiet in

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your house because we have like 
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It's like a farmhouse style. 
So the the noise carries through

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the house and I just I hate 
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And in the mornings where 
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school, we try and keep them 
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baby. 
So I'm like, Oh my gosh, they 

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must hate that. 
Like they have to be quieter at 

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my house. 
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you're so. 
Sweet I would like not even 

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care. 
You're so sweet to even think 

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about that. 
I'm like, yeah, this is our 

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house and this is how it is 
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with us too is bio moms don't 
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You know, my husband is their 
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relate to the quiet thing in the
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was like, oh, I hate this. 
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night and it wakes me up and I'm
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And I did feel really bad about 
it was like, oh, he doesn't have

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to deal with that at his mom's 
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And I remember I called my mom 
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we'll tell him that. 
That's part of being in a family

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and you have to be quiet and you
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say. 
I don't care. 

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Not at my mom's family. 
Not at my mom's house. 

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Say we're not talking about 
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Yes, yeah, but no, I know. 
I understand what you're saying 

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though, in all. 
Seriousness, just so everyone 

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knows this is like there are so 
many levels to this. 

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It goes deeper than them saying 
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But that is very valid of an 
ache for stepmoms of course too.

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So OK, the thing I want to get 
into is how competition actually

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shows up. 
Besides the gifts, it also shows

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up in experience. 
So if there's a different level 

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of income between houses, 
there's an experience level of 

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like, they take trips 
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Do you ever have to hear from 
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Like, why don't we go anywhere? 
And it's like, you know, they're

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asking because they're always 
taking trips at Disneyland. 

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I mean, mom's house. 
It's rules versus freedom. 

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So do you discipline in your 
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Probably. 
Does bio mom's house discipline?

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Probably not well. 
Sometimes, but if it just might 

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look different and that's what's
so difficult, you know, And I 

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know I spoke about this a few 
episodes ago about how me and 

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bio mom have in the past, not 
really anymore, but we've, you 

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know, talked and collaborated on
an appropriate punishment for my

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stepson. 
But I think the difference is 

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too is like we have different 
parenting styles between the 

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households. 
And yes, like I've said so many 

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times, I love her, but I do not 
agree with how she disciplines 

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and parents all the time. 
And I'm sure she says the same 

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thing about me and that's OK. 
But when we're talking about 

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comparing for a kid, that's 
really, really hard to 

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understand and not compare 
between households, like, oh, 

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well, at my mom's house, I, you 
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till I fall asleep. 
But at your house I can, you 

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know, And that's why I like 
being here better, or vice 

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versa, whatever you know the 
situation is. 

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Yeah, and that's exactly what 
I'm touching on too. 

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And we're trying to show, y'all 
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that this shows up and wears its
ugly head, and it's important to

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be able to identify them so that
we can shut them down. 

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And I'll shut down those 
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So the moment you realize it's 
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replenish your, I like to call 
it like we're an ATM, right? 

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So we can give out as much as we
put into ourselves. 

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So if we don't have time for 
self-care, we're pretty low on 

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like how much we can give to our
family, our job, our spouse, 

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marriage, you know, cleaning our
house. 

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So obviously there's a big 
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need. 
What does that look like? 

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How do we do that? 
That is something to that is 

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it's in a guide coming to the 
member. 

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So for our like small village of
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for each other. 
And the link will be here in the

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podcast bio, but we can send it 
out too if you message us. 

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This is something that I have 
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what I like to retreat and I 
need space for myself. 

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So when something is irking me 
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about in the past, or if a set 
kiddo is saying something that 

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is making me rethink everything 
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for Easter or whatever it is, I 
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processes of reminding myself 

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what is actually happening here,
reminding. 

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So how do I remember that this 
isn't actually a competition? 

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So caregiver burnout we 
discussed also, but it is 

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costing you when you're over 
giving like this and you're 

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trying to keep up with the 
Jones, you're trying to keep up 

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with the step by the bio mom's 
house. 

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And so this is what we want to 
do to reframe your mindset. 

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SO2 houses equals two different 
teams. 

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The way I see this is my step 
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they have a jersey. 
One week they wear the Gray 

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jersey, the other week it flips 
and they wear it red. 

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It's the same jersey. 
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teams. 
They can be a home team or an 

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away team. 
All it is is 1 little jersey. 

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So how are we doing this in our 
life and separating ourselves 

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from by a mom's house while not 
completely erasing it because 

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it's so pertinent. 
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back and forth between houses, 
like is there anything that they

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need that's consistent for their
health and Wellness? 

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Is there anything that they need
for schooling that needs to be 

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consistent and not be a 
competition? 

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So if you look at it that way, 
where we're imagining this is 

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for the kids sanity, this is for
the kids well-being this, then 

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it's not about like it's for my 
sanity, it's for my well-being. 

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It feels more like something for
business. 

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And we take the emotion out of 
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And this helped me so much, so 
immensely. 

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But it's a mindset that you have
to kind of train yourself 

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around. 
You know, the instant thing is 

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to think like, Oh my gosh, 
she's, she's competing with me. 

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She's hearing about what is 
happening at my house and she's 

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trying to be better. 
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that and live with that feeling 
every day. 

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So if you can remember that some
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not Easter baskets. 
But like this school. 

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Example, I can't have them 
walking home. 

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You know, we live 20 minutes 
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What are they going to walk for 
a couple hours across the 

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highway? 
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interest. 
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if they do ever express it to 
me, I'm going to be able to say,

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you know, of course that doesn't
work out, but here's what we can

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do. 
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through this process. 
We ended up finding a street 

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because the school is in the 
neighborhood. 

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They can walk down to this 
street where we're always parked

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and it's closed. 
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everything. 
They can walk with some of their

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friends and meet us at the car. 
Because I could kind of think 

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through this on a logical level 
and keep the emotions out of it 

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and how I'm competing. 
We're in her neighborhood. 

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I let the noise stay out. 
And we came to a really great 

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solution for the facts that 
we're given. 

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Does that kind of the processes 
right? 

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That makes sense, or is that 
confusing? 

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Yeah, no, I think, I think 
that's really sweet of you. 

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I knew you were sweet. 
So. 

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Oh my gosh. 
No, I think that's really sweet 

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though, that you're, you know, 
you. 

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Saw. 
Where they were kind of maybe 

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comparing between households and
so you didn't want to take that 

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completely away from them on 
y'all's week. 

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So you did a compromise that on 
address safety and made them 

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still feel cool with walking 
with their friends. 

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And you were able to do it 
easily without, you know, 

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overcompensating yourself or 
abanding yourself in any way. 

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So no, I think that's cool. 
I have a similar story with my 

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youngest. 
He has really crazy curly hair. 

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He is mixed. 
And it gets really tangly. 

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Same with my son. 
Anyhow, he uses this certain 

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curling cream, right? 
And I guess I have one that he 

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just doesn't like, right? 
So which is fine. 

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I used to take that so 
personally before. 

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I'd be like, you don't like my 
curling cream, the one at your 

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mom's house better. 
But like, you know, Melissa was 

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saying, like, as you like get, 
you know, more into your stepmom

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role, you get a thicker skin, I 
think. 

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And you're just like, it's just 
not personal. 

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Like he's not trying to hurt my 
feelings by saying that. 

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Yes, maybe he could say it 
differently, but he is not to 

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that stage developmental yet 
where I can have that 

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conversation with him. 
So anyways, so he's like, I 

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don't like the curling cream. 
So the other day he was at his 

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mom's house. 
He said, text me a picture of 

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that curling cream. 
He's like, OK, so you did it. 

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When he got back to our house, 
it was, you know, it was on the 

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bath room, you know, counter. 
And I think that's just like 

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another example. 
See, I'm sweet too. 

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Look. 
At you, you, you are we're so. 

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Nice. 
We're not evil, stepmom. 

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See you guys. 
See. 

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What do you know, we're having a
good week. 

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What do you know? 
So, but I think that was another

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example of like, OK, I can do 
this little thing. 

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It's not like I'm going to 
overextend myself financially or

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emotionally, mentally by doing 
this little thing. 

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But it gives him some, you know,
alignment between the two 

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houses, This curling skin cream,
it's the same at both houses. 

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And it makes me feel loved, 
right? 

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So it's all good. 
It goes back to that parallel 

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parenting too. 
We can only do what we can at 

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our house. 
But again, when it comes down to

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something, Stepmoms, how are you
coping with transition day? 

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I'll tell you how I am. 
I'm lighting my big ass candles 

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to calm my big ass anxieties and
honestly it changes the whole 

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mood of the house. 
Same chaos, just calmer vibes 

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and way better energy. 
We're obsessed with big ass 

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candles from big ass luxuries. 
Yep, the ones from Shark Tank. 

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If you want to try one, use code
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discount. 
That's code stepmom at checkout.

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Big ass candles because stepmom 
life comes with big ass 

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feelings. 
Yeah. 

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And that takes us back to like, 
parallel parenting, you know, 

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and making sure we can do what 
we can do in our own home. 

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They'll do what they can do in 
their own home. 

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We have to choose consistency 
over competition. 

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But if it comes down to 
something as simple as like the 

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hair gel or whatever, we're 
going to do what we can just 

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make them happy and like our 
house. 

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But we're not trying. 
We're not overcompensating, not 

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putting ourselves out, but we 
have to also allow good enough 

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to be enough. 
This is where, again, we go into

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the caregiver burnout and 
stepmom burnout. 

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We enough is enough. 
You know, think about the 

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mindset of if this was their 
only house. 

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Yes, they might say, well, it's 
different at mom's house, but at

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what expense? 
At what point are you going to 

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put an end? 
Is it going to be like when 

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you're hospitalized because you 
went crazy? 

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We have to put an end to that. 
To them yeah and then we just 

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overdo it and it's it's just so 
interesting as stepmoms how at 

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least an Alyssa nice experience.
We don't do that for our own 

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kids like I'm sorry. 
I tell my son like Oh well 

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that's what we have for dinner. 
Sorry. 

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That's what we have for snacks 
in the pantry right now. 

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But with my stepson. 
I don't know why if, if I hear 

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the comparing of even simple 
things of snacks and the other 

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households like it used to get 
me so like defensive and I'm 

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like, well, maybe I need to go 
get butter snacks. 

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But I think what's important to 
to really take away from this is

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the more confident you are in 
yourself and who you are as a 

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stepmom, the less worried you're
going to be about those little 

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comparison comments from your 
step kids. 

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And I'm not saying that you 
can't set boundaries. 

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You know little boundaries when 
they do say stuff if it is out 

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of line or you know too much for
your own feelings. 

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But as you become more confident
in your role and who you are as 

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a stepmom, I think you start to 
take it a little bit less 

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personally because it's like, 
OK, well, these snacks that I 

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buy in my house are because XY 
and Z and this is how we 

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operate. 
If you don't like it, then you 

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starve, you know, and I'm not 
saying obviously you really 

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starve, you know, sorry, but you
know, then you don't eat that, 

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OK. 
And I think it just gets better 

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over time. 
I don't know what's your. 

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Experience with that, The snack 
thing is a real touchy subject 

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at my house. 
So it just I can't with that 

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one. 
So that's another thing where we

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put a boundary of like with the 
school lunches that go back and 

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forth, the lunch box that went 
back and forth between houses. 

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There would be like purposefully
it seems that there were notes 

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left there, you know from mom 
and snacks that were eaten the 

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empty containers and stuff for 
packages that are trash that on 

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my weeks they just throw it away
at lunch left there. 

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Like I don't know why but my 
husband and I are having to see 

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what these kids are eating for 
lunch on those weeks. 

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And you know it's kind of hard 
if we don't agree with 

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everything that's in the lunch. 
If I and this is like the 

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complete opposite. 
But I am comparing with the 

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other house because I'm looking 
out for the kids best interest 

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now and I'm thinking is this 
good for them to be having XY 

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and Z in their lunch? 
But yeah, I cannot control the 

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other house. 
I can't and I'm certainly not 

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going to be able to control the 
kids and tell them, you know, 

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this isn't good to eat because 
if that's what they're given and

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I told them that they can't eat 
that then but they're just not 

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going to have lunch. 
So I had to let that one go. 

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We ended up saying like, hey, 
we're going to get lunch box for

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our house just so that we don't 
lose the lunch boxes going back 

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and forth between houses. 
So now I don't have to see the 

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notes. 
I don't have to. 

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We don't see what they had for 
lunch or didn't not, you know. 

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So wherever you can find your 
piece, you just have to get 

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creative, find your piece again,
if you're in the membership, you

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can tell us an example and we 
have are very creative after all

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these years and we can help with
these kinds of things of how can

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we narrow down that extra 
stress, give you a little bit 

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more peace, put more into your 
ATM so you can give more to your

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family. 
Yeah, no, absolutely. 

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OK. 
So I'm going to put it into 

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perspective for you guys. 
OK, go ahead. 

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OK, let me put this into 
perspective for you guys. 

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The kid says, you know, at mom's
house, blah, blah, blah. 

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So what we do is we remember 
this isn't a comparison for a 

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child. 
This is information. 

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So what are we going to do with 
that information? 

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You know, they're not testing 
us. 

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They're not choosing sides. 
They are literally narrating 

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their world. 
So we here at mom's house and 

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our nervous system start shaking
and we hear that we're losing. 

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No matter what they're saying, 
whether it's good, bad or ugly, 

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we feel like, oh, initially 
we're going to just take this 

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information as we lost whatever 
it is. 

446
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,160
We're not as great. 
But what the kid actually means 

447
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,560
is this is familiar to me. 
And then they narrate, you know,

448
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,640
Easter at their mom's house or 
something because it's something

449
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,080
they've done and it's something 
familiar to them. 

450
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,520
So the best things to do at 
these times, get your pen and 

451
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080
paper. 
We are not going to correct 

452
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,000
them. 
We are not going to defend 

453
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,520
ourself and say, well, at our 
house, you know, and that's so 

454
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,280
hard because that's the instant 
thing that I do. 

455
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,400
And we're not going to explain. 
We're not going to explain why 

456
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,840
ours is better. 
I don't know how, but you have 

457
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,760
to get yourself to not do that. 
Like me not saying, well, that 

458
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,840
lunch isn't healthy or, you 
know, we can't do. 

459
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,640
That no, no, I think that's 
important and it also helps just

460
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,960
like with Co parenting in 
general, even if it is like a 

461
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,880
high conflict situation. 
But when we take the High Road 

462
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:22,200
by not having those comments 
become a competition, then I 

463
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,960
feel like it neutralizes, you 
know, the playing ground between

464
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,520
households because it also 
sends, you know, a subconscious 

465
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,160
message to the step kid that, 
OK, well, she's not going to 

466
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,200
tell me why this house is 
better. 

467
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,160
So maybe I don't need to say 
anything else. 

468
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,840
It almost kind of like shuts 
them down in a developmentally. 

469
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,840
Appropriate way yes, yes, and it
retrains their mindset and their

470
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,480
process so that they know next 
time that they OfferUp that 

471
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,400
information, they are kind of 
knowing what to expect. 

472
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,160
And so something an example of 
what to say would be like, yeah,

473
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,680
that's how they do it there got 
it. 

474
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,120
That's it No tone, no, like 
that's how they do it. 

475
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,200
You know, no follow up, just 
that's our power move as step 

476
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,440
moms and as an influence in 
these kids lives. 

477
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,480
Well, that's how they do it 
there. 

478
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,840
Cool. 
The other option that is to say,

479
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,640
you know, does that work for you
because maybe sometimes it's 

480
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,000
something that's unhealthy or if
it's something you actually do 

481
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,280
want to like infiltrate in your 
house, Do you like that process 

482
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,960
or do you you know, you like 
that after school activity if 

483
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,880
it's something that you want to 
look into doing as well? 

484
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,720
So taking an interest where you 
can and then in other cases 

485
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,600
just, you know, kind of a blame.
OK, good to know. 

486
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,040
And then you move on with the 
conversation, move on with your 

487
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,720
life. 
Just a few more things. 

488
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,800
I want to make sure that 
everyone gets today comparison. 

489
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,320
All it does is it's going to 
wreck your peace. 

490
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,680
So our stepmom power, our power 
move is going to be having peace

491
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,920
and not letting the other house 
or buy a mom or stepdad or 

492
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,160
whatever it is get to us. 
When we show up and we are our 

493
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,400
full confident selves and we 
don't feel that competition, we 

494
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,200
feel so secure in our household 
and what we are producing here, 

495
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,040
then we're winning. 
And that's if you're looking for

496
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,400
a competition, that's the 
competition is being so sure of 

497
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,720
what you're producing in your 
house. 

498
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,360
Just remember that kids, you 
know, they don't keep score the 

499
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,320
way adults think. 
The way they calculate and keep 

500
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,440
score is by experience and not 
experience like a travel 

501
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:38,280
experience, but like a family 
dinner or having to help 

502
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,800
participate with something in 
the house and that makes them 

503
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,840
feel included. 
Safety is another one. 

504
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,760
If they feel safe in your home, 
they feel like they can come to 

505
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,800
you with information. 
Like my stepson literally. 

506
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,200
And I saw another stepmom post 
this and I was like great, me 

507
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,880
too. 
This means we're succeeding. 

508
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,200
He came up to me and said, I 
want to talk to you about a girl

509
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,040
at school. 
Don't tell daddy I said OK, and 

510
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,240
then I went and told my husband 
I'm going to go talk with him 

511
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,960
about the girl at school, but 
this is between us. 

512
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,960
Yeah, butt out. 
Like, I'm winning right now. 

513
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,960
He's confiding in me. 
He feels safe and that's all 

514
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,080
that matters. 
If he doesn't get a trip to 

515
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,760
Disney World this year, so be 
it. 

516
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,080
He feels safe and that's really 
all I care about. 

517
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,920
Another one that's like. 
The same. 

518
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Yeah, no. 
And I just side note, that's the

519
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,400
thing I also like, you know, 
there's there's not a huge 

520
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720
laundry list of things, but one 
that is something that I love 

521
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280
about being a stepmom is like 
little moments like that because

522
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,280
it's like we're not the mom, 
we're not the dad. 

523
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,960
And it's like we're like the fun
aunt that they can like tell 

524
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,600
little. 
That's true and like. 

525
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,720
Yeah, I think that's so cute 
that that happened, but yeah, 

526
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,680
keep going. 
Yeah, these are our nieces and 

527
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,280
nephews staying at our house way
too long, overstaying their 

528
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,200
welcome, and we're the fun aunt.
So yeah, it does. 

529
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,800
Because I have been told by 
multiple sources and I do agree 

530
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,760
with this, that we should not 
discipline unless we've built a 

531
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520
big strong bond with connection,
safety and trust. 

532
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,440
But if we're not disciplining 
and that's up to bio dad, that's

533
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320
a win for us, right? 
That's we're fun. 

534
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,360
So the last two things that the 
way that the kids keep score is 

535
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:18,360
by connection and familiarity. 
So some stepmoms kind of have an

536
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:20,680
issue with familiarity just 
because they feel like, well, we

537
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,120
don't have the kids as often at 
our house and they're at bio 

538
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,840
moms more. 
So how to attain that 

539
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,280
familiarity is keep in contact 
when you're not together. 

540
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,960
If that kiddo has a phone, if 
that kiddo has sports that you 

541
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,280
are allowed to attend, be there 
and be present as much as you 

542
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680
can. 
And just to build that bond with

543
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,640
that connection with the step 
kid and not to compete because 

544
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,440
we just want them to feel 
comfortable and feel safe, you 

545
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120
know, feel accepted at our 
house. 

546
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,720
And I think that is like success
as a stepmom. 

547
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,280
That's the best way to put it. 
So let's see, do you want to get

548
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280
to some stepmom? 
Question. 

549
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,600
Yes, yes, I do have a couple 
that kind of go along with what 

550
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,360
we're talking about today. 
OK, so this listener says or 

551
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,520
asks how do you deal with 
competition between households 

552
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,960
when it comes to birthdays and 
holidays? 

553
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600
So such a loaded question. 
Such a loaded question. 

554
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000
So we can kind of we can go a 
little bit deep into this. 

555
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,880
I think we have time. 
So first, do you guys do joint 

556
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,160
birthday parties? 
No. 

557
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680
Are you kidding? 
You know our situation. 

558
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,560
That would never, ever. 
Have you ever. 

559
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,240
No, and I think it's probably in
the divorce decree that like we 

560
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,160
can't. 
No, I'm just kidding. 

561
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,080
It's not that bad. 
But like no, just a hard no, no,

562
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,720
no, no, no, no, literally 
something that isn't a divorce 

563
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,760
decree that they shared the 
birthday. 

564
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,360
So whatever day the birthday 
lands on whoever, whatever 

565
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,440
parent they're with that day, 
they get a set amount of time in

566
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,600
a certain amount of hours with 
the other parent. 

567
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,320
And to be honest, I don't 
completely love it or agree with

568
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,360
it. 
And this was something that, you

569
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,360
know, would look into changing 
next time we go to court 

570
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,480
remediation, God forbid. 
But I think it really wrecks the

571
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,240
kids. 
You know, that's a big shift. 

572
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,800
We talked about transition day 
and then coming to our house or 

573
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,360
going over to mom's house for 
just a couple hours and coming 

574
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360
back to that house again. 
It's like a tease. 

575
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,920
It's like a mental mind. 
You know what, Like, I don't 

576
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,880
think it's healthy. 
I understand that my mom would 

577
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,040
want to see her kids on their 
birthday. 

578
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Yeah, yeah. 
Definitely. 

579
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,960
But at what cost This is, I 
could imagine the kids growing 

580
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,240
up and needing therapy because 
their birthdays were always, you

581
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,800
know, mentally taxiing and maybe
they hate birthdays. 

582
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,040
I just that's something that we 
have discussed changing. 

583
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,280
Yeah, I know. 
And I think to answer the 

584
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,040
listener question as far as 
because I, I have seen 

585
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,280
definitely competition as far as
like birthday gifts go and you 

586
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,080
know, things that one household 
is financially able to gift 

587
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,920
versus another family. 
And I think it's just really 

588
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,080
important that in both 
households as much as you can 

589
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,320
obviously try to use like 
similar language as you know, 

590
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,640
like this is what we're able to 
give. 

591
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,400
And you know, just because XY 
and Z doesn't mean that we can't

592
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,880
still have fun on your birthday.
And like Alyssa was saying 

593
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,320
earlier, I would just really 
focus on the experience and that

594
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,360
quality time that you spend with
your step kids on that birthday 

595
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,320
and make that something that 
they remember. 

596
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Because I know for me at least, 
I'm really trying to think back.

597
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,400
I don't know about you, Alyssa, 
but I can't really think like of

598
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,280
one birthday gift I got as a 
child. 

599
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,240
I can think of memories that I 
had with my parents, you know, 

600
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,600
once with just my mom or once, 
but just my dad. 

601
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,320
But I, I never went my, my dad 
got me a car, you know, which 

602
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,800
didn't happen, you know, but 
just saying like. 

603
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,360
I'm not bitter or anything. 
Yeah, yeah. 

604
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,200
Bitter. 
Yeah. 

605
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480
But yeah, I don't know. 
That's just the thing I I was 

606
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,920
thinking about. 
Do you have another listener 

607
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,240
question? 
I have one more if you don't. 

608
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Wait but I'm curious, so are 
you, do you go to joint parties 

609
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,880
or do y'all do joint birthday 
parties? 

610
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,200
So like I've said, we had my 
youngest stepson for the 

611
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,240
majority of the last few years, 
so pretty much 100% of the time.

612
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,200
So I did all the birthday 
parties. 

613
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Now, with that being said, if by
a mom, we're in town at the 

614
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,760
time, she totally would have 
been welcome. 

615
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840
Her mom actually always comes 
and helps me. 

616
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,920
So that's fun. 
Interesting. 

617
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,120
Yeah. 
Yeah, it, yeah, it's fun. 

618
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,200
She's really sweet, though, and,
and she's helps me out and helps

619
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,760
coordinate and and all that 
stuff, which is nice. 

620
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,560
And I'm not sure. 
I guess I'll have to keep you 

621
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,720
guys tuned as birthday is coming
up here in April. 

622
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,080
So we'll see how this year goes,
but I'm assuming that there's no

623
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,720
reason why we wouldn't all 
attend. 

624
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160
And now who's going to be the 
planner this year? 

625
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,880
That's up for debate. 
I would like to take a couple 

626
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,640
years off from being the planner
person. 

627
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,280
I'm just like Alyssa said 
earlier in this episode, Alyssa 

628
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,880
and I could not be more 
different in this aspect. 

629
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Like she went all out for her 
son's first birthday. 

630
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,080
I haven't even thrown my almost 
4 year old birthday party and I 

631
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,160
won't until he asked me for it. 
I am just not like that. 

632
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,040
And so I'm doing birthday 
parties at all is just not my 

633
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280
jam. 
So I don't know what we'll have 

634
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,160
to see what happens. 
As far as the other two step 

635
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,960
kids, we never get to spend it 
with them. 

636
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,200
My stepdaughter, which is super 
sad, like he's never, I think 

637
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,160
he's only spent one birthday 
with her ever. 

638
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,800
And it was not last year, but 
the year before we took her to 

639
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880
Disney World for her birthday. 
So that was super fun. 

640
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,360
But yeah, other than that, we 
don't. 

641
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,480
And then my oldest stepson that 
lived with us full time, he just

642
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,120
was always with us. 
And his mom lives in another 

643
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,120
state so she wasn't there. 
So it wasn't really a thing. 

644
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,000
Man, that's bloated. 
I do have one great idea for 

645
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,960
this stepmom and any others 
maybe I already talked about it 

646
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,560
before. 
What we're going to be doing 

647
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,200
from going from here on out, 
like starting this Christmas. 

648
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,720
And I think we're going to try 
and do this with birthdays as 

649
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,600
well. 
But the years that we don't have

650
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,320
the kids for Christmas, we're 
not doing the same amount of 

651
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,760
gifts as normal. 
We're just going to do a trip. 

652
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,080
And so they're going to be 
included on a trip because we do

653
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,600
take a trip every year usually. 
But I mean, that's, that's 

654
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,560
pretty extensive, pretty hefty. 
But the load plan a second 

655
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,719
Christmas, like I can do all the
parties and planning, but 

656
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,800
Christmas that's big, that's 
exhausting. 

657
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,560
You already have like 10 
Christmases with all your 

658
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239
families. 
So we're not going to, I'm 

659
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,679
protecting myself. 
I'm saving the money that's in 

660
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:42,520
this ATM for another event or 
another function. 

661
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,600
And we're just going to wrap up 
in a fun way, a trip. 

662
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,199
So and I think you can take that
into birthdays somehow of like, 

663
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,920
if you don't have them this year
and you're, you know, just 

664
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,120
coming to the party, maybe when 
they come to your house, you 

665
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,720
just have cake and like one big 
present or something. 

666
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Don't put yourself out to buy 
all these gifts and have this 

667
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,040
enormous birthday. 
If you don't have that being 

668
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,760
said, I don't know what to do 
when you do have them because in

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my opinion I just, I can't help 
myself with like going 

670
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overboard. 
No, definitely. 

671
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560
I think my first couple 
Christmases I went really 

672
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overboard, but then I, I don't 
know, I just started to set 

673
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better boundaries and I have 
less resentment. 

674
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,200
I don't know, I want to get to, 
to this. 

675
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,320
This was more of just like a 
statement, but I think it really

676
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,440
wraps up today's episode really 
well. 

677
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This stepmom says that feeling 
that you are never chosen and 

678
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you are never enough. 
And I think that that just goes 

679
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,560
back to that comparison between 
household that we've been 

680
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,080
talking about in this whole 
episode is that stepmoms really 

681
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struggle with this. 
And I think it's so interesting 

682
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,800
how we were made stepmoms 
because I think it almost forces

683
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us to reflect on some, you know,
inner stuff going on. 

684
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Why do we feel like we're never 
enough? 

685
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,800
Why do we never feel chosen? 
Does that go back to, you know, 

686
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childhood and those child 
attachment styles that we were 

687
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,080
talking about on previous 
episodes, which is something I 

688
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,760
really want to get into. 
And so I think that I'm going to

689
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challenge myself, Alyssa, and 
all of you stepmoms this week to

690
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,360
just really think about why do 
you feel like that? 

691
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Where does that really stem 
from? 

692
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,280
Because yes, we can all agree 
sitting right here, listening 

693
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,880
wherever you are right now, 
that, you know, our step kids 

694
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and our partners, sometimes in 
the stepmom role, they make us 

695
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,240
feel like we're not chosen and 
we're not enough. 

696
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,200
But where does that stem from? 
Because that doesn't just stem 

697
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,880
from them, it does go into 
something deeper within 

698
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,960
ourselves. 
And so I think it's really 

699
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,680
important to, you know, try to 
see where that comes so that we 

700
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,640
can heal it not only in 
ourselves, but in our stepmom 

701
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,040
roles as well. 
Yeah, I I completely agree. 

702
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,640
I think my problem with that 
that I had to overcome is that 

703
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,720
my instinct is reactive. 
So, and that's, that's in my 

704
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:09,160
anagram, but I, I react before I
speak or before I even think. 

705
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:13,720
So I would invite you all when 
you're triggered on anything or 

706
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:17,040
you have a comparison remark in 
your house before reacting. 

707
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,120
That's the only way to prevent 
something coming out or a 

708
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,040
reaction that you're going to 
regret later. 

709
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Just pause, take a second. 
They might be like, are you 

710
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,200
there? 
Are you OK? 

711
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,800
Yeah, yeah, hold on. 
Had a brain fart, Yeah. 

712
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,200
And then come back to them with 
what? 

713
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Like, OK, let me rationalize for
just a second, you know, OK, 

714
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,240
Now, yes, I can compartmentalize
what you said. 

715
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,880
I can put remember, we're like 
spaghetti. 

716
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,240
The men are like waffles. 
They can think and process 

717
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,000
things differently than us. 
And we are just like word 

718
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,760
vomiting initially when we hear 
something that's triggering, 

719
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,680
upsetting. 
Yeah. 

720
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,040
I think everyone this week just 
allow good enough to be enough. 

721
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,480
Please. 
That's the best that I can give 

722
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,600
you. 
And that, you know, if you're in

723
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,160
the membership and you have 
further questions about this, 

724
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,040
come to us. 
And we are more than happy to 

725
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200
divulge more information, 
discuss you know how to help 

726
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,680
with any of these triggers that 
you have with comparison issues.

727
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,760
Yes, definitely. 
We will see you all next week. 

728
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,600
And like we said, if you're able
to check out the membership, 

729
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,960
just because really cool things 
are happening in there, we are 

730
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,680
able to share things that we're 
not able to share here on the 

731
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,480
podcast or on Instagram. 
And so if you want the real raw,

732
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,920
come take a look. 
Otherwise, we'll see you all 

733
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,920
next week. 
Thank you so much for joining us

734
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,480
today. 
That's it for this week on 

735
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,440
Stepmom Side Chats. 
We're Alyssa and Becca, your 

736
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,640
stepmom besties before you go if
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737
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,720
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738
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:52,080
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739
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,720
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740
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,680
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741
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,560
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742
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,400
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Keep giving yourself grace. 

743
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,720
You're doing better than you 
think. 

744
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,240
We'll chat with you all soon.
