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Hello everyone, and welcome back
to Needy No More, the podcast 

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dedicated to healing the anxious
attachment style. 

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I'm your host, anxious 
attachment style coach and 

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author Chris Ratcliffe. 
I've helped thousands of people 

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across 6 continents to end the 
cycle of anxious attachment 

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through my books, workshops, 
digital downloads, and coaching 

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program. 
I'm excited to carry on that 

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mission here, sharing tools and 
techniques, principles and 

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practices for you to explore on 
your journey to growing more 

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secure. 
Welcome back everyone. 

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I am super excited about today's
episode because we are wrapping 

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up our discussion of the cycle 
of anxious attachment. 

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Today we'll be talking about the
final two steps in the process, 

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which are addiction and stress. 
There are some questions I'm 

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going to answer in today's 
episode, so to give you a little

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preview, here's what we're going
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What is stress and how does it 
relate to addiction? 

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What is love addiction? 
How does stress factor into the 

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experience of anxious 
attachment? 

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How does stress relate to safety
and why is that important? 

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What is cortisol and what are 
some ways you can reduce your 

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cortisol levels and lower 
stress? 

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How does cortisol relate to 
adrenaline? 

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And last but certainly not 
least, how can you interrupt the

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cycle of addiction? 
The very first thing I'm going 

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to do today is to read a chapter
from Needy No More, which is 

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called Addicted to Love and 
Stress. 

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It was the best first date I've 
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Clanking our wine glasses and 
resting them on the edge of his 

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roof, I too felt like I was on 
the precipice of something truly

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risky, truly special, truly 
sacred. 

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He picked me up and softly 
pushed my back against the wall 

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of a nearby vestibule, his heart
pounding and pulsating against 

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mine. 
His eyes crinkled up with joy, 

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the twilight catching their 
glacier blue hue in the dying 

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light. 
Our giddiness escaped as 

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laughter, inescapable bear hugs 
and sweet sumptuous kisses, a 

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much needed release of the 
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Back in his loft a few moments 
later, the dulcet tones of 

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Mariah Carey danced to the beat 
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After several beverages and 
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fell asleep on the couch, his 
arms wrapped tightly around me 

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and his head nuzzled in my neck.
It was simple, it was pure, it 

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was blissful. 
I floated home the next morning,

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a flutter with infatuation, 
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I was smitten in the throes of a
consuming crush, unable to 

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detain my desires and let the 
proverbial chips fall as they 

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may. 
We began texting incessantly, 

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planning two more dates that 
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I was taken by the belief of 
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I thought about how proud I'd be
to be his boyfriend, how easy it

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was to be around him, how 
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connection seemed to be. 
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After our third date, the texts 
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soon did too. 
Sensing his distance both 

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physically and emotionally, I 
made plea after plea for him to 

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share what he felt. 
After all, what could have 

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possibly changed in such a short
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But each bid was met with more 
distance, more confusion, until 

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there was only silence and pain.
Deep, simmering pain. 

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The kind that keeps you awake at
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the depths of your diaphragm. 
The kind of loss that takes you 

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months from which to recover. 
The kind of intensity that 

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creates a form of emotional 
withdrawal even after just a few

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dates. 
Think about all the times you've

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craved the attention, affection,
and validation of someone on 

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whom you were crushing, in whom 
you were interested, or with 

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whom you were in a relationship.
Recall your fixation on their 

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behavior, the hyper vigilance 
and emotional monitoring in 

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which you engaged. 
Sit with the uncomfortable 

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reality of the protest behavior 
to which you resorted to try to 

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get your needs met. 
Remember the intense checking of

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their social media, how you'd 
reread every message to decipher

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if their feelings had changed? 
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anxiety and withdrawal you 
experienced after spending a lot

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of time with them was trying to 
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Ultimately, there are reasons 
why we engage in these pathways 

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of thinking and behaving, and 
that is because they are 

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textbook indicators of 
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In fact, in her book Facing Love
Addiction, author Pia Melody 

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defines anxious attachment as 
the experience of love 

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addiction, identifying the love 
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dependent on in, meshed with, 
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taking care of another person. 
But it's also so much more. 

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To me, love addiction is an all 
consuming experience defined by 

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obsessive thinking about a 
partner and compulsive behaviors

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to create more intensity and 
closeness with them in the hopes

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of not being left, cheated on or
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Marked by extremely high highs 
and extremely low lows, love 

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addiction mirrors other 
addictive cycles and not only 

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their intensity, but also their 
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Much of that intensity and 
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environments in which we were 
raised and relationships in 

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which we participated. 
I know this is true for me. 

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Ever since I can remember, I've 
been a little bit boy crazy. 

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Like many anxious attachers, 
I've always longed for someone 

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to show up and choose me. 
To save me from my trauma and 

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whisk me off into the sunset to 
be a knight in shining armor and

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rescue me. 
It wasn't until I began my 

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healing journey that I realized 
these desires were a projection 

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of my own ability to save and 
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secure, an abdication of my 
uniquely personal responsibility

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to confront my shadow, the dark 
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could undergo. 
But this river ran deep for me. 

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By the time I grew serious about
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20s, many of these cycles and 
patterns had been on repeat for 

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two decades. 
I had my first crush when I was 

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10 years old. 
His name was Mr. Hill and he was

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a college aged teaching 
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teacher. 
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I remember his broad shoulders, 
his short brown hair, and his 

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adorable smile. 
The way he flowed freely through

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the room with an empathetic air 
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He was statuesque and sweet, 
like a Greek God that had 

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swooped down into my class, 
gracing us with his heavenly, 

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gentle presence. 
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him. 
Even then, before I had words to

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describe this phenomenon, I was 
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masculine, handsome man. 
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I wanted to feel cared for. 
I wanted to feel safe. 

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Mr. Hill was the physical 
representation of that, the 

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symbol of an ideal that shaped 
my dating experiences in the 

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years to come. 
There were countless Mr. Hills 

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in my teens and 20s. 
There was a heterosexual jock in

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my Spanish class in high school 
for whom I used to make mixed 

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CD's, acceptable expressions of 
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flirtation. 
There was a guy I dated in my 

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early 20s who lived in the East 
Village in New York City for 

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whom I fell head over heels 
after just two dates, only to 

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become far too eager too soon 
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back to his ex. 
There was a man I met in a gay 

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club in Chelsea around the same 
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I slept over at his place for 
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meeting him. 
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experienced when he told me it 
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Truth is, I could give 
innumerable examples of how I've

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let my heart run away, of how I 
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and connection of it all. 
But the most important take away

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from all those experiences is 
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It's an intrinsic part of human 
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In fact, we're neurologically 
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When we find it, especially 
romantically, it can feel 

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magical and meant to be, like 
the stars finally aligned or 

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heaven opened its gates. 
This process is largely 

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chemical. 
A flood of hormones and 

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neurotransmitters is released 
when we are in a state of lust, 

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obsession, or limerence. 
And it is often because of this 

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intoxicating cocktail of 
chemicals that we feel that 

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sense of alignment, destiny and 
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We're quite literally high on 
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Falling in love is the most 
addictive experience of all, one

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that can make us lose our mind 
and our way, causing us to 

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behave in ways that aren't 
aligned with our values and 

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don't fit with our character. 
The idea of a person, what they 

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represent to us, the role they 
can play in the narrative we've 

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prefabricated can be, and often 
is, the most intoxicating and 

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addictive aspect of all. 
Alas, our cultural conditioning 

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around love, marriage and 
romance is extensive. 

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We don't have to search far and 
wide to see the evidence of this

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truth. 
From an early age, we are fed a 

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steady diet of rampant 
romanticism through the music we

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listen to, the television shows 
we watch, and the movies we 

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consume. 
Our culture is obsessed with 

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love, and there are entire 
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this obsession. 
Sex might sell, but love is 

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addicting. 
As we've discussed, at its core,

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addiction is nothing more than 
the inability to tolerate 

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reality. 
Unable to cope with the external

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stimuli or 'cause, as well as 
the internal emotional response 

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or effect, we learn to 
circumvent the typical pathways 

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for processing and healing. 
We dissociate, we ruminate, we 

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externalize, we obsess. 
But we always do it for the same

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reason, in order not to feel. 
If we push deeper, we can often 

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find a disturbing truth 
underlying these compulsive 

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behaviors. 
There's a discomfort of being on

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our own. 
There's a fear of our 

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inadequacy. 
There's the cumulative weight of

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our unresolved trauma. 
We become unconsciously addicted

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to these thoughts and beliefs 
and what they mean for us, the 

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victimization they represent, 
and powerlessness they 

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perpetuate. 
The darkness becomes our 

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default, and so does our need to
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While there are many different 
objects to which we can become 

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addicted, there are only two 
pathways to becoming addicted in

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the first place, through 
stressful situations or the 

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relief thereof. 
There's the rush of cortisol and

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adrenaline when we perceive 
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happening in the environment 
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And there's the rush of dopamine
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we perceive something positive 
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Stress and relief, threat and 
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Often addiction is defined by 
the cycling between these 

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extremes, these polarities. 
We can't help but get hooked on 

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the high we get when we receive 
another hit of these brain 

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chemicals. 
When certain thoughts, beliefs, 

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and fears are engaged, we feel 
that rush once more for the 

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body. 
These stressful feelings are the

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baseline we've come to expect 
through the unstable and 

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inconsistent experiences of our 
past. 

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They feel familiar. 
They're home. 

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But these cycles are also 
painful and damaging because 

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they defy reality. 
Our inability to see or accept 

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reality as it is does nothing to
change reality itself. 

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It only changes us. 
Like trying to swim upstream 

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against the current, our 
resistance exhausts us until we 

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get swept away in the process. 
There's a reason why so many 

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folks who've experienced trauma 
also develop addictions to 

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substances, sex, and even other 
people. 

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They don't feel safe in the 
present moment, in their body, 

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or both. 
Never is this more self-evident 

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than it is for those with an 
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As anxious attachers, we love 
love. 

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We crave it, we obsess over it, 
we fiend for it. 

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It's something we deeply desire 
because it seems to have eluded 

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us. 
Hence why we romanticize ROM 

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coms and binge watch The 
Bachelor, why we spend countless

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hours on dating apps and pining 
over romantic prospects. 

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It is our drug, our fix, our 
high. 

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Romanticism offers us an escape 
from our isolation and 

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inadequacy, or so it seems. 
What we don't realize though, is

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that every hit, every piece of 
media we consume or swipe we 

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make on a dating app only 
further reinforces our sense of 

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lack and our mindset of 
scarcity. 

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It is fuel for our shame. 
It drives the stakes deeper into

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our hearts, causing us to double
down on the narrative that it 

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can't and won't happen for us 
because rarely, if ever, has it 

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actually occurred. 
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illusion and a self fulfilling 
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The over romanticism of love and
marriage makes us seek out media

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and experiences that encourage 
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partner, the intensity of an 
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of love at first sight. 
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that everyone around us is 
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and it emboldens our search for 
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from our cage of loneliness. 
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ourselves. 
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signs that you might be slipping
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that you refrain from making 
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friends, or doing what brings 
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disaster. 
This is the loudest warning that

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you might be repeating old 
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codependency and anxious 
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Remember this, Someone has to 
earn the right to rearrange your

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schedule. 
Doing so before that's been 

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earned will create an imbalance 
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The kind of partner you need 
will understand if you have 

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things going on, and we'll 
admire and respect you even more

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for it. 
In order to heal addiction, you 

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need to sober up to the 
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to embrace reality instead of 
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As anxious attachers, this means
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singledom, to stop feeding the 
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can be a savior. 
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The person with whom you'll 
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human, just like you. 
They'll be wounded and imperfect

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and flawed. 
They will eventually disappoint 

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you and can't be expected to 
carry the weight of all your 

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disappointments from the past. 
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hold space for you, they also 
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your feelings of loneliness and 
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Nothing can do that. 
If you throw yourself into a 

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relationship thinking it will 
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you're in for a rude awakening. 
Relationships only mirror back 

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to us the healing work that 
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Your time spent being single is 
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It might not feel like it at the
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explore yourself, to deepen 
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advance in your healing are 
incredibly valuable experiences 

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and they set you up for success.
When you do find that person 

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you'd like to commit to, that's 
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That's not something to wish 
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avoid. 
Being single helps to prepare 

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you to be a healthy partner, at 
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I see that now and I hope you do
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OK, so while that chapter helps 
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questions here, including what 
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to addiction and what is love 
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anxious attachment factors in 
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to it, remember the cycle of the
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attachment. 
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of trauma, abandonment and 
codependency, and also of 

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nervous system dysregulation, 
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Factor in here as the final two 
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You can't heal anxious 
attachment unless you heal your 

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relationship with your body and 
therefore how it manages stress 

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and also heal any addictive 
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including how you might be over 
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romantic partners and romantic 
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Let's talk about how stress 
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is important. 
That might be one of the most 

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important questions for today. 
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Feeling safe and feeling 
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The safer you feel, the less 
stressed you'll be. 

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The less safe you feel, the more
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When we feel seen, heard, and 
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body can relax. 
We aren't in a state of survival

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as often or as long. 
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loneliness of modern times is so
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It increases stress levels and 
depletes our energy, and it 

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keeps us from the sense of 
safety and support we need to 

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get out of the cycle. 
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support system is critical for 
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for healing anxious attachment. 
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emotional diversification in the
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often I hear people say that 
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when they're really just 
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environments that trigger them 
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themselves. 
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important for emotional 
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paramount, and that necessitates
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Isolation doesn't heal, 
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typically you'll reach for 
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Whether it's gambling or gaming,
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drinks, you name it, people are 
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not to feel the discomfort. 
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yourself and in your body, the 
more likely it is that you won't

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engage in addictive behaviors 
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And also the more likely it is 
that you won't lean on a 

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romantic partner thinking that 
there's some sort of savior 

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because they are not. 
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about is cortisol and some ways 
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and lower stress. 
Cortisol is a stress hormone 

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that's produced by the adrenal 
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In order to improve our 
relationship with stress, there 

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are some things that we can do 
to lower cortisol because the 

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higher the level of cortisol, 
the more stressed you're going 

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to feel. 
There are four BS and four s s 

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that I'm going to review. 
The bees are balanced diet, so 

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fruits, veggies, leafy greens, 
fermented foods, body movement, 

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walking, running, weightlifting.
You got to get those endorphins 

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pumping and you got to get your 
body moving. 

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We're not meant to stay 
sedentary. 

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Breath work is the third be the 
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physiological sigh are two 
expressions of this, but there's

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so many different ways. 
To practice breath work, a 

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simple Google search will show 
you, and maybe I'll dedicate a 

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future episode to that. 
Your breath is way more closely 

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connected to your mental health 
than you might realize. 

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The 4th and final B is to build 
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Meditation and mindfulness 
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Whether it's body scanning or 
following the breath, it can 

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help with improving your 
cortisol levels because it 

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brings you out of the present 
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So the more present you are, the
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the lower your cortisol and 
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There's also 4S S sleep. 
If you don't get enough sleep or

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the quality of your sleep is 
poor, it's going to have 

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downstream effects elsewhere. 
You're going to reach for 

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unhealthy foods, you're going to
be more stressed and irritable, 

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etcetera. 
Second S is sunlight, go out 

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into nature, get some fresh air 
and boost your serotonin, 

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dopamine and vitamin D levels. 
Get your body moving again and 

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preferably out into some green 
space. 

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Third S is supplements. 
While I am not a nutritionist or

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licensed medical professional 
and am in no way telling you 

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what to take or not to take, 
many of us are deficient in 

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vitamins and minerals in 
nutrients such as iron, vitamin 

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D, magnesium, and more. 
Augment where you need to and 

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again, consult a professional 
for this. 

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Also, Ashwagandha can help with 
reducing stress, as can reducing

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alcohol and caffeine intake. 
Both of those can spike cortisol

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and stress levels. 4th S and 
final of the eight ways that you

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can lower your cortisol levels 
is social connection. 

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I'll say it once and I'll say it
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There's nothing quite as 
fulfilling as connecting with 

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safe, solid, stable people in 
your life. 

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We are a social species and 
laughter is healing. 

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Be with people who get you and 
connect with them. 

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That can help to lower your 
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How does cortisol relate to 
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Cortisol is released in response
to prolonged or chronic stress, 

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whereas adrenaline is released 
in response to immediate or 

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acute stress. 
Both keep us in a survival state

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and deplete us, but cortisol 
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effects. 
That leads us to the final 

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question for today's episode. 
How can you interrupt the cycle 

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of addiction? 
I addressed this a little bit in

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the chapter from the book that I
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say. 
Remember that addiction is about

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the things we turn to when we 
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So the most essential thing you 
can do is learn to sober up to 

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the circumstances in front of 
you. 

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Here's how you can do that. 
Refrain from avoiding, denying, 

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or otherwise numbing your 
feelings. 

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Learn to sit with yourself 
without doing anything, without 

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trying to push your feelings 
away or avoid the experience. 

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Breathe into and through the 
discomfort. 

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Call up a friend or a family 
member. 

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Lean on your support system. 
Reach out to a therapist, a 

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coach, or other mental health 
professional who can assist you.

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There's no shame in getting 
support where you need it. 

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Take it one day at a time, 
though. 

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You have to be willing to feel 
your feelings, whatever they 

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are, because addiction is driven
by your desire to disengage. 

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That means learning to be with 
feelings that are really 

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uncomfortable, like rejection, 
abandonment, inadequacy or 

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shame, loneliness, 
disappointment, frustration, and

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many, many more. 
And learning to share them with 

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others too, because again, we're
a social species. 

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But at the end of the day, 
sobering up to the reality in 

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front of you and the experience 
inside of you. 

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This completes our analysis of 
the cycle of anxious attachment.

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I will continue unpacking ways 
that we can interrupt this cycle

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in future episodes and in 
perpetuity in every aspect of 

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the work that I do, whether it's
downloadable materials or any 

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future books I might write or 
workshops I do or lives on 

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TikTok or TikTok videos or posts
on Instagram. 

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But for now, it's important that
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the cycle because those are the 
experiences that Dr. Anxious 

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attachment, trauma, codependency
and abandonment, nervous system 

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dysregulation, stress aversion, 
and addiction. 

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I hope that this analysis in 
these episodes so far has been 

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helpful for you. 
And if so, please rate and 

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review the podcast and maybe 
leave a comment on Spotify. 

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I love hearing from you all. 
So if you want to e-mail me too,

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you can always do so at me at 
cracklift.com. 

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Thank you so much, as always, 
for watching and listening, and 

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I can't wait to share next 
week's episode with you. 

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I have my second podcast 
interview, this time with a 

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really, really special guest, 
and I can't wait for you to hear

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it.
