What would you guys say are the pros and cons of being a part of
a reality TV show? I feel like it's a.
Lot this show, Vanderpump, it really dove deep into my life.
We also got on a TV show that had a massive fan base.
I felt like I walked in and got 100,000 haters and a little bit
of a fan base. It's like I don't respond to it.
I just let them think what they want to think.
Can you tell us your sexualities?
I'm straight by like for and stuff like my fans know like I'm
just like super cool and open about everything.
He does it all. I've pretty much done it all.
But like, we're straight now. Y'all are gay right?
Y'all are gay. I was a male stripper as a
stripper growing up with my twin brother we we worked at.
Shows my dad was also a male stripper as well.
Really. I actually.
I like how male strippers make. At the time I was making like
probably 2 grand a show. And how often were you doing a
show? I was doing that two to three
times a week. It was just like fucking magic
Mic. Yeah.
Wait, so how big? Are you I feel weird to say it 8
inches a little more that's. Fucking.
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started. Alright guys, so if the viewers
do not know who you guys are, could you please one by one
introduce yourselves, alright? What's going on?
My name is Jason Cohen, also known as Justin Fox from New
Jersey, and I'm here with the boys, so.
What's up y'all? Chris Hahn, Italian Stallion 3
for just. Italian down, Cheech.
It's good, bro. Shane Davis.
You can find me at the fake Shane Davis on Instagram.
Cool beans. So my favorite thing to ask
people whenever I meet a group is how did you all guys meet
all? Right, just to keep a quick
summary, me and this guy right here are cousins.
So we have a lot of history together and we recently met one
of our this is honestly one of my close friends in LA.
His name's Shane Davis. We all met on our TV show called
Vanderpump Rules. What was that?
One more time. Vanderpump Rules.
Vanderpump Rules, Could you get a give us a little synapsis
about what it's. Pretty much it's the life of of
it's pretty much a whole set inside of a restaurant.
So it focuses all on the drama of the people that are in the
restaurant, people that work there, and the life that we live
outside of it as well. So we're servers in the
restaurant. Shane is actually one of the
server's best friends and we work there, so it shows our life
inside and outside the restaurant.
And you can imagine all the drama that happens inside a
restaurant and obviously. Out there.
So you actually work in the restaurant?
Yeah, yeah, I work there about once or twice a week sometimes
whenever it's like it, it is a busy restaurant.
So for me, they, they like to have me work there 'cause the
fan base and stuff too. But we also, we worked there
before the show. Like I didn't know we were
gonna, we were gonna film this show.
Chris and I decided to work at this restaurant to expand like
our knowledge just with meeting people and stuff like that like
in LA, I. Used to be a server.
Yeah, it's a good place to meet people, right?
So that's why we're working there.
And I kind of heard about the show.
And then they were like, hey, do you guys want to be on this?
Or at least meet people to see if there's something you want to
do? And I was like, hell yeah.
Got it. The show is in or the
restaurants in LA. It's in West Hollywood.
West. Hollywood.
OK, but what is the restaurant called?
It's called. Sir SUR sex union restaurants.
Yeah, actually. Tonight they're gonna be doing a
a viewing of episode 11. Yeah.
Y'all should come through. Y'all should come through.
You guys are free. Yeah, I'm probably gonna roll
through. I'll be there.
But he'll be there. What's a good time?
Are you gonna go change? Maybe.
We'll see. We'll see.
We'll see what happens. It's it's like, yeah, it
depends. I've already watched it so I'm
like I. Don't know, I just try to go to
show face sometimes. I think it's cool.
So what's up with the fans and stuff?
That's dope. So you 2 guys are cousins?
Yeah, Cousins. How did you guys meet or get to
LA? We obviously.
We got close when so we both wrestled.
We lived in separate towns. We lived like 15 minutes away
from each other and we wrestle. We were like 1415 like.
Freshman year yeah. Freshman, sophomore is home
again. Atlantic City, NJ Yeah, Jersey.
From Boston, by the way. Oh no.
What? Yeah, born and raised Boston.
I shout out the East Coast. Ohhh yeah, we go wicked smile
here. You said wicked, so you say
wicked. Well, wicked.
Not really. I don't really.
Yeah. Oh, OK, that's the older
generation. I I think so.
Although I was born and raised in the East Coast, I was still
raised in Brazilian culture. Oh God.
Yeah, like I was teaching my mom English, you know?
So like, it was kind of like, right, Yeah.
I always thought the movie Goodwill Hunting is like my
favorite fucking. Yeah, dude.
There's so many like Irish like mob movies there.
Wicked smart. Yeah, it's smart.
Yeah. How they do it over there, Yeah,
yeah. But.
Like apples? Right.
Yeah, that's another one. Wait, who?
Who was better at wrestling? Now I'm better.
He's definitely better now, but I beat his ass when.
He did when? He started getting close.
He. Did beat my.
Ass, but now you also. Know jiu jitsu weight classes?
How are you about jiu jitsu? Shout out to Brazil.
Hey, Capoeira or what? What's up?
Capoeira Brazil Jiu Jitsu. Oh, I just do all of it.
Oh, you do everything. Yeah, so.
You still trained to this day. Yeah, yeah, a little bit
actually. I was training back down in
Glendale, my my training partner for a bit.
Well, he was at this club I was training.
It was Mario Lopez. Dude's actually savage.
So I trained with him a bunch. He can.
Box too. He's good.
Yeah, so he's a rolling. Fight, dude.
Yeah, for sure. I feel like I was a pretty like
pretty solid wrestler translated to my am I jiu jitsu good?
And then I do Muay Thai and like a little bit of boxing.
So it's fun. God, good time, bro.
So when it comes to you guys becoming, well, I guess working
within the restaurant and then having just to be handed an
audition to be a part of a show at least, right?
Would you say that would be like your first ever time actually
being on TV? No, actually, so Chris and I,
our story is really interesting. I was wrestling in college, I
injured, started Med school and I had this weird epiphany in my
life. I was like a first year Med
student. I was like, I don't know if this
is for me. And it was kind of like during
COVID and Chris was doing HVAC at the time.
I actually had like this weird moment where I was like, I need
to like leave the country. I need to just go travel.
Chris, quit your fucking job and come with me.
He was like, what? OK.
Like I got this dude equation. I hated my job and my job.
I was selling timeshare, so I was talking about this like
people going on vacation. I was like.
Selling vacation and I was just like, it was a guest job.
It was my first desk job. I was like fuck.
This if you mind. This is 2018-2019.
OK, got it. So that's.
Pretty cool, yeah. So this is like a a long journey
for us, but I was like, bro, let's go buy cameras at Best
Buy. I bought a camera.
I was like, we're going to go to Europe.
We're going to film a bunch of shit.
We're going to send it to Netflix and they're going to
make a fucking TV show about us. How crazy does that sound?
Sounds like fucking nuts, right? Like, what was I thinking, You
know? But I had, I was like, fuck it,
let's do it. So we go to Europe, we go to
Oktoberfest. We filmed a bunch of shit.
I end up sending this content to Netflix.
I actually did it. I thought something was going to
happen. Of course, not like they didn't
hit me back up, but a couple months later, I did get an
audition for a show. It was called Too Out to Handle.
I didn't get it, but I was like in the system.
And they were like, yo, we're doing a show about family and we
found this like video clips of the data that you set before and
it's like you and your brother or something like that was me
and him. It was the videos that we sent,
I sent from Europe and they're like, we want you guys to
audition for the show called. They didn't tell me the name at
the time, but it's called Dated and related.
You have to go on this dating show with your siblings and kind
of like find love. It's based in France during
COVID. I'm like, fuck, yeah, we're
going to France. So we flew out there.
We filmed that show. And then from there, we ended up
packing our bags, our cars, and we drove to Los Angeles.
And let me tell you, when the show came out, not much
happened. And I'm like, fuck, I can't do
another show because I'm signing with Netflix.
I wasn't getting anything else. And times were tough, dude.
So another show came out, was called Perfect Match.
That's what he got. So he did Perfect Match.
And at this point I'm learning how to do social media.
I'm kind of just getting by working in the restaurant
industry. And it kind of clicked to me
where I was like, I'm going to do.
And then from there we both kind of started doing all and things
started to change. And then that's where Vanderpump
came in, which was like this time last year.
So you did before you did Vanderpump.
OK. So how was it like in that first
month then of doing it? The first month was really hard
because the I'm, I'm not going to lie, I was pretty shy, even
sending a pic a bit. I was just like, I didn't know,
like I was a really like kind of introverted person with like,
you know, just my like everything.
And I didn't know how to like come across like the first time
I post it on social media, I'm like, this is weird.
Like people are going to make fun of me and shit.
It's kind of like a learning curve, you know, You just kind
of got to let go. I mean, that's how everyone
starts too, you know, You want to go about trying to create
something, at least some form of content.
Everyone's going to judge something somehow, no matter how
good you do. And I just didn't know how to do
it. And I just sent a couple
pictures, couple things and chatting with people and I'm
like, this is interesting. I've been been told my whole
life's starting. I mean, the first time I'm doing
it was just really fucking hard. I didn't, I didn't find my wave,
I didn't find my electricity. You know what I'm saying?
I didn't find the Justin Fox yet.
But then then I fucking figured it out and it just clicked.
I was like one day I was like, Nah, like I feel totally
comfortable with this shit and I just started like pushing.
It was good. There you go, man.
I think that's the the most important thing, you know, at
least you find your way at some point.
In a weird way, it's like, I don't want to say it's a
character, it's me. But like, you got to find that
like, I don't know, like you're an actor, bro, You know what I
mean? It's not acting, but it's like
you find this like energy or this aura for yourself.
And for me, I just found like what it was and I just feel so
damn comfortable doing what I do now.
It's good man, sexually. Good.
And you guys did it together or you saw him first do it or how
did how? Did so yeah, I mean, after after
our first reality dating show dating and related a lot of like
our friends that were also in the reality TV store, they were
doing it and we were like seeing how how well they were doing.
We were like, do we really want to do it?
Because we wanted to get more into acting, more modeling.
I was afraid to do it because of acting.
We were really reluctant because obviously there's like a stigma
behind it and all that kind of stuff.
But over time, like he started doing it and he was making
pretty good money. And then I was like, all right,
I'm going to do it, but I'm going to be super low key about
it. But yeah, I mean, I, I stopped
doing it because then I filmed Perfect Mattresses, which is the
other dating show, which was like, kind of like it was
supposed to be a little bigger, but it didn't really do too much
at the end of the day. And once I saw that that didn't
do the numbers I wanted it to do for me, I was like, you know
what I'm going to do too? Because life's too fucking
short. I want to make as much money as
I can. And like I said, I see how well
he was doing. Plus our other roommate Nathan,
he was killing it at the. Time.
Yeah, that's kind of what happened.
Like that inspired it for us, I feel like.
I feel like in the beginning, like I was almost forced to do
and that's kind of what because I thought maybe I do this
reality TV show, I'm going to do brand deals, I'm going to get
into acting and this and that. That's not what happened at all.
Like you get to LA. We were living out of our cars
when we first got here. We waited for a show to come
out. It came out gain like maybe
30,000 followers on Instagram. And for a guy like you're not
getting brand deals with that you're not getting, you know,
that's not going to help you out.
And I'm thinking everyone's telling me to let me try it.
Like I said this on our show. I was literally in cantun on
ramen, bro. Like, like, that's all we had.
And we were just like, living out of our car, like taking
showers at fucking Planet Fitness.
That shit isn't that funny? Yeah.
I'm just like. For tough bro.
Yeah, we. I moved here with a couple grand
in my pocket. And I'm just thinking like, all
right, like I'm going to figure it out in my mindset.
I mean no disrespect to homeless people.
What I thought, like, if this dude can live on the beach and
be like, fine, like, I can figure it out.
Yeah, like I thought like, and like, I can do this.
Like, that was kind of. And I always thought like, I had
my family and I had my health, like I'm, I'm geez, that was
kind of what I was holding on to.
I was pretty damn happy too. We had a good ass time.
Like we had some good laughs back then.
Living in the car is. I think that's because I used to
live in my car, too. It was a good time.
Like, looking bad. Yeah.
It's like Planet Fitness.
Exactly. Shaving.
Yeah. Shower in there and not having
the soap. But like, what?
What was the transition like? When did you I guess finally
stop living in your car? Felt like a.
Fucking movie really. It was insane.
Like I remember I manifested every fucking day, dude.
Like I worked at this one restaurant called two O 8 Rodeo.
I used to go in the bathroom and just look at myself in the in
the mirror and be like I can fucking do this shit.
Like I can do this. Like it gives me chills thinking
about that shit. Like I remember telling Chris
every day I was like, yo, I'm going to make this much money,
I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this.
And he would be like shut the fuck up.
You sound cocky, but I was like low key.
Like low key. I was like manifesting it so
hard, bro. Like manifestation is a real
thing and it's like, if you don't say it, then do you really
believe it? You know what I mean?
And I, I had this plan and I was just like, I got to execute it.
I was taking all my tools from wrestling and applying it to my
life. But it, it was a fucking grind,
dude. We used to, I got in a car
accident. I lost my car.
So I kind of lost my house in a sense.
Then I, I ended up buying a fucking bike.
It was a Schwinn bike and we finally got a, an apartment down
in like Pico Robinson. So we're living in Pico and it
was decent man. But I'm riding my bike to work.
I'll never forget to do this. One day I had to run inside to
get my fucking apron. I come back out, my bike was
gone. It was stolen.
I was like dude, just hitting the lowest times.
I'm like fuck dude. I literally was like I got in a
car accident. I lost my bike.
Like we used to ride back from work every night and just like
go to 711, get protein bars, have the best laughs.
But I mean from there, dude, it's like our show came out.
It was like this and then I feel like this momentum kind of
caught and then I realized I can put my personality out on social
media when I did that, and I kind of became more free with
that. I saw more like growth and I was
like, wait, like if I can't like get cast for a movie or show, I
can make my own show. I can just make my own things.
And that started to happen. And it became like, like social
media, like my own show in a sense where I was like, I start
seeing, like, big changes. And I feel like Chris saw that,
too. And then he did it.
And we just started going together.
And we're just, like, really flying.
Like things just start coming. Yeah, man.
I think, I think for those watching right now, I mean, it
kind of sounds like a chaotic story, you know, really, you
know, one of those stories you hear from a lot of successful
actors, a lot of successful musicians, a lot of people that
are successful nowadays, you know, they all have a story.
I think your story really touches too.
I feel like although it does sound chaotic, I think it's cool
that by the end of it you guys still stuck with each other.
I think that right there is what matters the most.
So, you know, big ups to both of you guys, you know, still here
until this day, making it big. So yeah, dude.
This guy had my back the whole time.
Like I've been through so much ups and downs like I I'm when we
first moved to LA dude, I was having panic attacks, anxiety
like crazy and like he's such a grounded ass dude.
He had my back the whole time. Like I'd be freaking out like
fuck how we're going to do this and just trying to stay locked
in. It was like I was fighting
myself the whole time. And I mean, I still have things
like that sometimes, but at the end of the day, bro, like it's
one of those things like if you got like good friends by your
side, like you guys obviously do, you know, like the Skype
limit. Yeah, of course.
Man, you know all it is is having the right people around
you to motivate you for sure. That's really what it's about
for sure. Okay, so then you guys stuck
with each other throughout all the chaos, making it work within
the end at somehow. Obviously you guys are still
building it, going crazy with it with the shows.
So then you come in the mix in the midst of all this, at what
point would you say I actually? Met them at Barney's Beanery.
Shout out. Barney's, that's what everyone
can you tell? Them what Barney's is, in case
they don't know Barney's Barney. 'S yeah, Barney's is, well, it's
actually like low key a chain like Bar in LA there's like
probably 3 or 4 of them, but it's always popping.
Yeah, there's a lot. Of people, there's pop bar food
a lot, definitely. There.
I'm not there. That's not my aesthetic, but
history of. Of going to Barney's karaoke
night. What's the other one?
Not sure it's when you oh like. Trivia, right?
Yeah. Yeah, trivia.
Yeah, yeah, all that. It's, it's a fun time.
It's a young popping spot. And it's like I feel like club
life kind of died in LA. Like when I first, when I got
here, bro, everything was club like and then everything was
promoters. I don't know how long ago was
that to that was like 2017, 2018-2019.
And you would show up dude. And like, like famous people
would, would, would be there dude.
It was grimy though. Like like like promoters would
have stacks of fake IDs for girls and like, dude, it was
grimy. It was like it was a whole
nother animal. And then like it, it was all
based on how many chicks you could get, like, at the table.
And that's how you would get paid.
Yeah, that's how Miami. Is Miami.
'S still club life, I feel like LA.
Tried to be like that for a second.
It was though. It was.
It was popping for a second and then it just died like and it's
just like, I feel like the clubs are not.
In LA anymore? Hell no.
I. Feel.
Like I feel like you say that. I feel like club life's.
Good in Vegas still. I mean, what clubs?
Have East Coast he's. I'm below. 21 he's not 21 he's.
20 Damn yeah, he just grown ass. Man, I mean, it's really, I mean
there's. Girls in Poppy, they're 18 and
19 years old. It's crazy.
Wait, how old? Are you guys for the viewers?
I'm 30. One actually 31.
Really. 40. 55 no, no, I'm 3333 if you.
Want to look? At us real quick, if you could
guess our age, I would say you're. 24 cousin 23 and. 20,
yeah. 24, I'm 25. 25 Yeah, cool. So hey one guys, one year old
same. Age.
I was just trying to change it up.
Yeah, have a good. One appreciate that you're
younger, why not young bugs? Are y'all in relationships?
No. Oh yeah.
No, I. Thought you were.
I thought you were in a. Relationship.
You posted it on your note. I love my girl.
Your boy just fucking. I.
Was doing that just to play with other girls heads, you know,
that's smarter. Yeah, 'cause they.
All know they were like laughing.
You're lying. You're lying.
That's mad. Funny.
Welcome to. LA A everybody's like, everyone
in LA is like, oh, when I'm 30, I'm a lock in.
Nah, Nah, you're gonna hit 30 and it's gonna be even harder.
You know what's? The best yeah relationship.
Right now 30s is the new 20s is what I it is I mean.
That's why I look like I'm 21. So what's up?
O20 And when you're in your 20s in LA, you're old, bro.
When you're in your 30s in LA, you're young, dude.
It doesn't. Matter how old.
You are in LA if you're hot there.
Was like this dude in this movie and he's shit sitting with this
older chick and she's like, you're so young though.
He's like, I don't give a fuck. He's like, if you're hot, you're
fucking hot, even in the bathroom.
It's hilarious. No, but I think.
I mean, honestly, I did. I mean, again, like you said in
LA too, I feel like that. I mean, here's the safe spot for
that. And Miami too, I'd include Miami
too. It's like as long as you look
good, it's not really for real. It's all.
About looking yeah, LA and. Miami, you're have a good
header. 30s to. Like you're even maybe even mid
40s. You're in your prime, right you?
Know all girls. Want an older man too, honestly.
The good thing about being a guy is that, like, I mean, you know,
you can stay. You can stay, like you can get
older and it's OK for you. You know?
It is. Yeah.
Same with girls, too. It doesn't really matter.
But all I'm saying is, like, it depends how you carry yourself.
So you carry yourself. Yeah.
You got to have money. Yeah, it's going to be real.
If you're if you're old and and you lose the hot, you know what
I'm saying? Like you got to have money.
Yeah, I agree with. That in this in.
This city, if you want to have any sexual market value, I mean,
but if you want to be at the top 1%, you got to have it all.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, like you.
Got to be like, yeah, you got a good heart.
Mentally treat a bench. Press You got to have a 225.
Bench, you got to go. You got to have under 12%, you
got to be famous. I got to catch.
Up somewhat famous. No, you don't.
Got to be famous. You got to be breaded, I'm not
going to lie. Bro no, this is I'm going to be
famous. Streamer will come around and
take your girl no matter how much money you have.
Yeah, that is matters. That's true if you got the right
girl. Hey, the right girl will stand
by an argument for. Who are you?
Here's the thing, I do think fame is one of the highest.
But if you're talking about a non good looking famous dude,
the girls are just using them. They're they're literally
they're using or you can say the.
Same about the money. Yeah.
But how how you going to use my good looks?
So I think it's whatever. It is or whoever it is you pick.
You know, I think it's all dependent on that.
I mean, it's like you got to find a.
Loyal one bro. It's like those don't exist, man
Everything. 'S transactional, so y'all see
yourselves. Wife and anything up soon?
Yes. You do, I do because I believe
to be a good partner you need a lot of experience.
And I only have one relationship.
So how am I going to be a good partner if I've only been in one
relationship? Don't you want to get
heartbroken? And I do want to get heartbroken
because I want that I'm not feeling.
Heartbroken yet bro I have. Yeah.
Oh yeah, I've been heartbroken. I'm kind of heartbroken right
now bro, and I'll be honest, I gotta use the fuel dude I'm
using. Dude I I miss getting, he was
saying. It's just.
Really. Oh, those times I just so much
and. Ever.
Since that, I feel like that it does give you the jolt of just
like, do you want to be a better man?
You're like. Fucked.
You were like. Oh I know dude.
We we've been. Through shit but like.
I'm going through it. Can we get through?
Like, well, I missed that. Shit, I can't.
Talk a little bit shit, why can't?
It's heartbroken right now. I had.
A had a relationship. I don't want to talk about too
much. Talk about it.
Yeah, yeah. Can we talk about it?
Yeah. He's my boy.
He. Knows Wait, can we just.
Talk about how it ended. Did you get cheated?
On Nah. Nah, Nah, something like that.
It was more like, I'll say it was me bro.
You cheated me. No.
No, I'm not a cheated bro.
That's that's Columbia bro. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, basically it was said it was you.
Yeah, it was me. I think honestly, like I was
going through some stuff. I, I just learned to be
accountable. I think I just had some a little
bit of like anxious like attachment kind of vibes going
on. I don't want to get too deep
into it. Wait, was it?
Online or how did you meet this person?
I'm just we met through. Instagram actually, yeah, like a
while ago. We met through like a while ago,
but we see how long. Was the relationship.
I'd say like the relationship through with everything not
together like it was off and on but like 3 like 2 years and I'm.
Just curious because you guys are in your 30s, how many
relationships have y'all been in 'cause I'm trying to up my This
is the. Third person I really like was
serious with and you. How many?
I've been in three serious relationships.
I've been in four and I've lived with two of them.
Oh, I've done. The living one.
At the. Ring at one point, yeah, I was
about to do that. You're 35, right?
Now 3330. Three, OK.
Yeah, so you. Looked at all I thought you're.
40 right, because you said. 45 So I remembered the five.
My bad because. You were joking my.
Bad, it's all. Good, but you don't.
Look, you don't even look. You look like you're like 30.
It's OK, I'll. Just all right, dude, it's fine.
Hey, but you know. What though?
I think it's cool because you're, look, the muscle
outweighs all that, you know? That's right.
So you guys all work? Out You guys all got a workout
routine like what's that looking like?
What do you guys eat? Yeah.
Honestly, I got a Clean eyes diet.
I don't really drink. I don't do, motherfucker.
All he eats is chicken and rice chicken.
Rice like steak. So right now my.
Body's not like up the par. I think on the show I was
looking diced as a cunt though it's looking good.
I like I had to take off a little bit.
I tore my hamstring. I was back to normal and hurt my
AC joint. So it's all back.
I'm sorry. To hear all this, are you natty?
I'm natty, yeah, yeah, Natty. Are you all natty?
Yeah. There we go.
We're all natty. I mean, I'll do some peptides
here and there. Oh.
Peptides. Peps.
Yeah, I never did. Peptides.
Are you guys all natural? Yeah, I'm natty.
Yeah, I mean. People like to say that I'm on,
but I'm not. I'm just me.
You got a good. Physique bro, they say he's.
Like he's too lean. Yeah, they say I'm.
Too Is he too? Lean.
I think you're on a healthy level.
You look you're. Fine, Thank you on.
The show I was getting too fucking good G my face was like
thank you, I. Saw some I.
Was like, damn, you put some fucking weight back on.
I was looking skinny. It's like hard though when
you're filming all the time. You don't really eat.
I don't like to eat when I'm on camera.
You know, I got food in my teeth.
I have like a full stomach. Yeah, that's we're filming.
I'm like, damn, I gotta take a shit.
Like I. Was gonna ask real quick.
I mean, it's more of a personal question here, but like, I mean,
we start with whoever it is, but you guys all look big.
What would what advice would you guys give me if I want to grow
some muscle or how could I get like you guys you got to eat?
As much as you humanly can and lift as much as you humanly can.
Lift heavy, OK. Heavy lifting, be careful bro,
you don't want to hurt yourself or nothing.
Like, I mean, it's heavy, it's heavy, but like, I mean, for me,
I don't know if it's my body's just injured from college
wrestling, so. How much you lifting right now?
I could probably pick you up. No, no, no, like.
How? No.
How often do you lift? How often?
Yeah, so push ups, I can lift myself up.
I do push. No, no, no.
I. Mean like how often do you go
to? The gym How?
Often. Oh, the gym.
Oh, you run it? From this question, he's
running. Bro the G.
Word. Yeah, I don't remember the last
time I went to the gym. Oh, this is just.
Without working. Yeah, this is.
His, yeah. So imagine if he's just his
default. I mean bro you're Brazilian
dude, Brazilians have like the best the body do you have?
Any like athletic hobbies though?
Do you like I? Used to play a lot of basketball
and football. I'm a fast runner and not a run
so. Basically he looks like this,
but you know what I'm saying? Like without any.
Yeah. So can y'all motivate him to?
This is the base. Level and I'm trying to get to
the Max level. Honestly dude.
Like I think I had the best physique when I was just
wrestling and doing jiu jitsu. Like for me, I feel like I'm not
really a big guy. I'm only like 5859.
Because she if I take this off like right here, like the
everything. We're looking like this.
And if I were to go flexing is like, oh shit.
If we were to go flex real quick, be honest though, like
I'm trying to get like all you guys.
What do you weigh right now? I think you got a good.
Physique your arms. If your arms are a little bigger
I'd feel you'd be like fucking yeah you if you had a but you
got a bigger shoulders. And maybe a bigger bicep.
Yeah. I'm, I'm 135.
I mean, you're chilling, right? Now and you're like what, 62?
I'm 511 I think. I think the I wish though.
I wish but how I'm short having to shoot.
I think the easiest way bro, is to always bulk just a little
past what you really want because you're going to lose the
six for like 2 seconds. It's fine.
That's part of that's part of the process.
You got to lose the six for a minute.
So how many? Days.
So you think he should do jujitsu?
And Marshall, I think. You know, wherever you, whatever
you love, Honestly, I'm not in the lifted anymore.
I kind of lost the energy for I'll get back to it.
It's I used to be obsessed with listen, I used to like wake up
and be like hard to go to the gym.
I'm like, I can't wait to pump Yeah, and I hated it.
I hated every single fucking second.
I hate you got to find something.
That's my point. You got to find something you
love. Like I loved going to jujitsu.
I loved competing. I loved like walking out of the
ass fucking face like I loved it, bro.
And like now it's just like my body.
I needed to be good for TVI can't get hurt if I if I like
hurt myself and I can't work out.
I'm on TV with like and it's like a flaccid soft body.
Like I'm like, damn, I'm not going to be feeling good right
now. I'm not feeling too good.
Like I'm coming back. But when I'm in those like when
I'm filming, I need the test levels high.
Like I need to be feeling pumped, you know, so.
Well, yeah, if you. If you hit like a bunch of
squats and stuff like I feel like that stuff is so underrated
bro. Like you hit squats and
deadlifts bro you'll your energy every he's from fucking.
Texas. Yeah.
Oh, me too. Texas.
San Antonio. They hit their.
Tone. OK, nice.
Where are you from? Fucks at Austin.
Austin. OK.
Hour away. Yeah, bro.
It's a suit. I I was there this year.
I was in San Antonio. But yeah, no, if you, if you
Jack, like, dude, hit the legs, bro, 'cause that's really where
you start getting energy. That's where your testosterone.
Yeah, it's gonna be so true. Leg day is probably the most
important. Yeah, I've been hitting.
Legs a lot more and that shit. Hurts.
Yeah. Yeah.
You live over three days bro. But.
I don't like. Working on a personal trainer,
yeah, but it makes me accountable that I have to go
every single day, you know, or whenever we schedule, I think.
Aesthetics oversize, you know, I'd rather have proportion
oversize. I kind of learned that and I
think it's easier to maintain. I used to be, I used to be a lot
bigger and I used to eat a lot of food.
I think it was giving me GI issues.
I was just like using the bathroom a lot like pushing
heavy ass weight. And there's some point where
it's like your body's just not going to keep up with that.
So I think longevity and consistency is going to be like,
let's get jacked as fuck. So did you make?
That did you make that realization like once you were
more on TV? I did.
Because I realized for me, I'm not super tall, so when I get
bigger, I look even shorter. And then I noticed my face like
when I started leaning up, I was like, I got like the cheekbones
coming in before when I was, you know, taking a bunch of
supplements, creatine, protein, protein, protein, I was bigger,
but I had like kind of like I didn't have ABS, you know, And
then my face was fuller. I started getting leaner and I
noticed like, oh shit, like I'm looking better at different
angles now, like more to the face, like cut ABS.
I was like, this is more what's the term like?
Looks maxing type shit you. Know actually are you guys.
Looks maxing like for a pro. Are you?
Soft Maxine or you? Hard Maxine, man, how hard are
you going? Maxine, this dude?
Really. Maxine.
Wait, can you tell us your sexualities?
Because, you know, Yeah, so. I'm straight.
I'm. I'm straight, I'm straight, but
like for and stuff like my fans know like I'm just like super
cool and open about everything. I mean we've.
Massage each other? Yeah.
Yeah, go be the best. Hey, the massage contents be the
best ones to be a part of for sure.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we, we.
I always like to say like my, like the Jason Buffett, you know
what I'm saying? Like join in, just go in and
just pick what you want, whatever.
I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, he does it all.
I've pretty much done it all. But like, we're straight,
though. I've never.
What about you? You're straight.
I'm straight. Yeah.
You've never. Experiment anything like I'm.
Fucking straight but. Yeah, yeah.
Like, you know, all to all types of sexuality and stuff, but like
God just made me straight. I'm like, cool, like go on man,
you know? As long as long as you're happy,
that's all that matters. Yeah, No.
Exactly. You are gay, right?
I'm just. Oh y'all y'all are gay, no?
Hey man, look, I miss a guy from the East Coast who wears a hat.
Man, he's a virgin. You were not a fucking.
Virgin. You were a virgin.
Wait, wait. You never?
Never. So you really?
Are kind of saving yourself yeah he's.
Kevin. Is he being?
No one y'all even saying nothing so he's got yeah.
He gets head. That's it.
Yeah, it's actually what? Happens.
Are you a Christian? Or Catholic or something, no.
No, it was. I was, I was and I was saving
myself. But like now, since I got into
doing like now, I always get it close.
I gave it 2. Years Max, I'm down.
But I just haven't found one that I think is like hot enough.
But I think he should. Wait, 'cause once you have to
get addicted to first person you have?
To with. You might like them a lot.
Wait, so I. Got a question back to the
reality stuff. So now that you're on reality
TV, you guys are on TV, do y'all get like a lot more action now
or how does that change your life?
I personally. Like I would say.
Too. There's a couple things though,
like, and correct me if I'm wrong, we're all in our 30s.
Like I think we've already really gone through the action,
action of it all where it's like, I'm at this place now,
bro, where it's like, I really wouldn't want to beat what I
already did because at that point it's just disgusting.
Like at this point it's like really for me, it really is
about. Connection quantity.
Or quality over quantity. We talked about that before.
It's like. So like what would you say is
your body cone? Like 3434. 34034I don't.
Have a high body count 3434. 100 No, no, no. 34. 1000, No 3.
No 3. Four chicks there's.
Really. A week, right?
Not enough for a week. Three No.
I generally I'll be real you I don't know I I've got to do a.
Guesstimate because some of them you forget, you know you don't
remember so if. You are if you were to average
10A year, which is that's. It if you're in LA.
That's pretty low, right? Is that low in LA?
That's yeah, I'm in. LA one year zero.
I wouldn't. Know I genuinely wouldn't know I
can tell Does anybody? Can tell you this.
Though it doesn't help you to say, it does not help you to say
a large number. Oh, I know.
That it is going. To affect you poorly.
Oh, I know that, yeah. Yeah, I know that well.
For me my my. I had three.
They don't. Conversion.
So it was. Kind of like chilling.
Oh, that's good. Yeah, I'll talk about.
It on my lives a lot people do. Oh.
You guys go live a lot. I go live like.
Every day right now because the show has like been a lot like a
lot of new fans. So I just try to say what's up
to all of them. Yeah, you guys.
All do reality TV, so I really want to deep dive into that.
We've been talking a lot. About this, I would say we if we
wanted to, there would be more opportunity presenting itself.
So can I? Ask you how come you did the?
Why did I do the? Yeah.
Like cuz it seems like so this was.
Actually maybe like 2 years ago, OK.
And we went to like this, We went to this content trip in
Oregon. Jason was there and I was just
having fun. And I ended up meeting her and
then two days after she just invited me over.
I was like, and she was cool. She was super cool, super chill.
And she was pretty. So I was like, I'm gonna say no,
yeah, you know, that wasn't in a relationship at the time.
So yeah. And then I'm like, I can't say I
liked her, but I was like, this girl's actually like a really
cool chick. Like if she wasn't a sorry, I
might have. Yeah, I just.
Didn't know if it came from like the show.
Like, boom, she was attractive. You get like all these girls on
the show. Oh, OK, OK.
Yeah, I had nothing. To do with that cool.
Yeah, we. Just met in person.
She was really cool, yeah. I fuck with Haley.
What would? You guys say are the pros and
cons of being a part of a reality TV show?
I feel like it's a lot. It's a good question.
It's a great this season. I feel like I'm portrayed in the
way that I really was and who I am.
The cool thing about this show is it expands on your life
deeper than just like other shows that I previously did.
So we've done dating shows that are highly just focused on
dating and little kind of a game show vibe where it doesn't
really like represent you on who you are.
This show, Vanderpump this the pros on this is it really dove
deep into my life. Vulnerable is like to the pump
thing, bro, like I really wouldn't tell people that like
I, I didn't really get that for Max And like I kind of was I was
a male stripper and as a stripper growing up with my twin
brother, we, we worked at shows like to go out on the stage like
you kind of want like your soft be a little bit more pumped.
You know what I'm saying? Like you're going to be pulling
off wearing I I will wear boxers, but like like a lot of
strippers do know this. You like pump up before throw a
turn on and just like looking nice and full, just like a
little like presentation. You know what I'm saying?
Not all not all chicks like it, but sometimes they're like, oh
cool, you got more tips and it looks like more aesthetic with
your physique. So it's all about presentation.
My dad was. Also a male stripper as well.
Really. Yeah.
I don't know what he's somewhere in the world.
No fucking wet, Yeah. That's great.
So your mom like my mom? Got danced on they and then he
ran away. No fucking.
Wet. Yeah, dude.
So you got stripper blood in your veins?
No, I. Know, but you didn't tell me
that your mom got danced on and bro, yeah, my mom.
Was a whore, bro. Yeah, she was your.
Mom was like, they're like she was.
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.
She, she bought tickets to go to a show and then and then my, my
father had danced on her and shit.
I mean, she's a. Whore though, Yeah.
No, of course not. Yeah, I, I.
Actually I like. How male strippers make I'm.
At the time I was making like probably 2 grand a show and how?
Often were you doing a show? I was doing that two to.
Three times a week when I was like 16/17/18.
It was a really fun time. It was like, it's not as much
like swinging like X-rated you think it was more like R rated,
I'd say. Like it was a really presentable
show that was very theatrical. Like it was like Magic Mike.
Like literally more like. It was just.
Like fucking Magic Mike, it was the fucking coolest.
He did it with me for a show. It was the coolest thing, one of
the coolest things I ever did. I had a crazy fucking life,
dude. I've done a lot of cool shit.
And that was like an awesome time, bro.
Like I've seen. And my twin bro, like I had a
girl, I had a girlfriend during that whole time so I was good,
but my twin was getting it on with all the chicks were going
to get married really. And so like you on the.
Bachelorette you was making. All the chicks are going to get
married and they were almost like, fuck, I might leave him.
Like that's something. I've seen some crazy shit being
a stripper. I've seen what like how really
are. And I was like, wow, like I'm
scared, bro. Like caused me a lot of trust
issues, to be honest, But I was so loyal.
I'm I'm such a loyal dude. Like I had girls every night
being like, please me. And I'm like, I have a
girlfriend. Like, Nah, yeah.
I mean crazy. I mean I should become a.
Stripper dude, I mean. You would do it in West
Hollywood. You make bread?
Probably. Yeah, I've stripped there.
I would. Want to do as Hollywood I.
Mean I. I stripped on Bachelorette like
girls and stuff, but there was always like an occasional gay
dude and I'll just like I mean. That's cool.
Nowadays that that's really big in Vegas, Yeah.
I don't know if it's big anywhere else.
Yeah, I would be. Way too short to do that show.
Like Thunder from down Under. Those dudes are like 6-5 and
shit. So yes, I come out and be like,
oh, like that peanut. Yeah, Excalibur, right.
Excalibur. Oh yeah.
Excalibur, I think that's it. Yeah, yeah.
I heard it's really big over there.
Wait, so the. Show dove into you doing that.
I was dancing with people on the show a little bit.
I was like showing the stripper skills.
But the show dove into what I was talking about was the
something and I would never really talk about that before.
But the exposure of the show shows your life on such a deep
level, man. Like I, I talked about like
deaths in my family. It got really like, I talked
about things that happened like that.
I don't really tell anybody because it's such a vulnerable
show. Like to be to be on a show like
that, you have to be vulnerable. And it's not really even up to
you. Like the things will be exposed.
So that's kind of what happened to me.
I'm sure you guys can agree on that.
Yeah. I mean, I think there's.
A lot of pros and cons about being on reality TV, Just sort
of with cons. I feel like when you watch
someone on reality TV, you, you feel like you when you meet
anybody in person, you kind of like judge them right away.
You kind of get a sense of who you think they are based on your
projected. I think of kind of how you grew
up and how you rationalize things.
So I feel like it's very easy to think, you know someone based
off of what you see on TV. Yeah.
So I feel like that is a kind of misconception that a lot of
viewers will have because they obviously everyone's everyone so
different. Everyone sees things differently
and, you know, they kind of see things through their own
storyline and how they put it. So I feel like it is it's very
common for that to happen. People think they know who you
are and they they kind of get a sense, I mean, yeah, it does
display your life and you do say the things you do say.
But I feel like it is very easy to misinterpret who someone
really is deep down. So I think that's just a common
misconception and one. Because of that, just to add on,
because I know you can do pros as well, but to add on to that,
like we also got on ATV show that had a massive fan base
prior. So we actually kind of, at least
to me, and I'm correct me if you guys see it differently, but I
felt like I walked in and got 100,000 haters and a little bit
of a fan base and that the the war of season 1 has been turning
the tide of how these people feel about us.
Because they again, like he said, they they don't really
know us. Yeah, they don't really know us.
And and they're comparing us to this last cast.
They had 11. Seasons, 11 years, that's like
12 or 13 years because all the turn around time.
So since then we basically took over.
Wait, so you work at the restaurant too?
So I'm the only. One that doesn't work there, and
that's partially because like 1, my connection is my connection
is that I'm like in the area a bunch and that I'm, I'm really
good friends with everybody. But there, there was no reason
like I'm a full time working actor.
So I, I, it, it wouldn't have made sense to even pick up one
shift a week for me to be honest.
So no, I, I don't work there. Yeah, I'm the only cast member
that doesn't work there. He's there more.
Than me sometimes though. Oh.
Yeah, I'm there. I'm there a lot.
Like I'm.
I date. I dated for sure.
The most chicks on the show. Yeah.
How? Did that affect the dynamics?
It got some. Drama, I mean, I think that's.
Good for the show, right? For sure.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's certainly caused some
issues, but I was able to, if I was a little younger, I think it
would have been sloppier. But like, one thing is like, I
don't think any of the women that that have dated me in the
last like several years could say, oh, that dude wasn't really
there when I needed him. It's just he told me upfront
this is what he was about. And when it was time to be done,
he told me that it was that, you know, it wasn't going to work.
And I think if you can do that and you don't have to, you don't
have to make the mistakes of like cheating or, or, you know,
doing weirdo stuff that we got to learn about usually when
we're young, you know, because it'll it'll, it's just ain't
gonna look good, especially on TV, because that's how the last
shit ended, right? It's like wait the.
Last the last the. Whole last thing go it it it
like blew up because these people were cheating on each
other regularly and then like, you know, and it holy shit, and
it like blew up over the Internet.
The show was done. And then for like a year or two,
like it didn't happen. And then they they rebooted it
essentially. And it was us, yeah.
So. This haters that you guys got
how do you guys like social media?
They give you guys hate or how did you guys see the hate or I
honestly? Get haters with everything I do,
no matter what. It's just like part of the game
with putting yourself out there. And that's something that took
me a little bit while to accept. Like I used to be, I want to say
maybe a little bit of a people pleaser at one point.
And then I realized I got to step with who I am and then own
who I am. And there's many people who
dislike you and that's OK. You know, like they're just how
everyone's going to like who you are.
Like politics in a sense, you know, you'd ever talk to like
certain crowds, it's like, holy shit, their mind is just not on
this or how I see I'm kind of a great person.
I'm like in between, you know, I'm very open minded and, you
know, somebody just going to dislike me.
It's like, yeah, sure, I got you.
That's like, I don't respond to it.
I just let them think what they want to think.
And I'm always kind of just like nice to it.
Like something really. Good at that.
He's really blocking. Out I I mean I personally think
I think I have like a lot more I got a lot of positive energy
from the show to be honest. But my previous shows I've
gotten a lot of negative energy. Like fuck boy this dudes a
fucking douche bag. Look at his fucking Caterpillar
ass eyebrows like fuck this guy. Like, like, I would just get
hate, like the way I look or the way I talk or the way I am.
And then this show, it's been a lot of positive stuff.
Yeah, man, I think. There are people, especially
when it comes to a reality TV show, they're always going to
pick what their favorite is and whatever it is that they they're
going to get out of one person to another.
I feel like it's always a pick and choose, pick and choose kind
of thing. It's never going to be like all
around like favorite, favorite character or favorite.
You know, it's never going to be like one person that's going to
be like perfect. You know it's always going to be
like one person, right? And here's the thing that I do
know, like life is peaks and valleys, like you can be having
a good time, stay, show. You can have a bad time, stay
show. For me, like right now, from
what I see in my social media, I feel like I'm getting a lot of
positive energy, but I'm not a perfect person.
I might be susceptible to making mistakes later.
I might be downfalling from that.
But it just, you have to realize it's like you have to be able to
redeem yourself and people make mistakes, accept that, forgive
yourself and learn from that. And that's kind of where I am.
That's how you. Learn that's how that's the only
way that you can become a better person if you make mistakes 1st
and you learn from those mistakes.
That's that's really what it is, you know, self reflecting.
You go on about making a mistake, you just don't do it
again. Yeah, it's only.
A mistake if you don't learn from it.
There you go. And that is like, I think one of
the most true lines ever. What is your?
Guys's mindset when you guys are going into filming for me?
Oh, you guys are because like. I feel like there's a lot of
things like because it's like reality TV are still like you
got to entertain, right, I'm assuming or how do you guys I
think it's. Just being the most outspoken
version of yourself, so all the thoughts that obviously you
don't always say everything you think, but when you're getting
filmed, you you're kind of you're supposed to just say
everything and, and how you can say it all and just blurt it all
out. Yeah.
And. Sometimes that could scare you
because you don't want to say something in the moment with
your emotions and then later regret it.
But for me, yeah, I. Guess has that ever happened to
you? Like you got burned?
Like Dang, I shouldn't have said that real life.
Yes, I mean even on previous shows, like I'd be like damn, I
don't want to say reality is not real life, but for me there's I
remember people ask me like, what's your plan going in the
season? Like what?
What do you what do you think you want to be like?
You want to be a fuck boy or something like that.
For me, I always say like I don't have a plan, like I don't.
It's almost like I just want life to come from me and then
whatever situation occurs like I'm a handle.
Then what do you manifest? Though like at the end of the
show my my. Do you mean genuine?
I had my core values like I'm a just being.
You at the end of the day, no matter what, yeah, I have my
core. Values like be respectful, be
genuine, but when something's not right, speak your voice like
be be a leader. You know, so just.
Display your values. Yeah, display my.
Values and like, you know, I'm, I might not always be like the
best person. Like I've definitely made mad
mistakes in my life and my relationships and everything
with my family. But I mean, you learn from that
and I try to like portray, I'm not trying to be a fake person.
I try to be genuine. But like, that's what I think.
If you're genuine, people see that and they connect with you
because they relate. When you're genuine, you know
they see like the person you are.
Even if you're, yeah, even if you're like, messy, you know, I
think for me, like I wanted, I had an idea like, I want people
to see what I'm really up to, right?
Like I wanted, and I did. I was able to bring them to,
like, acting sets and I was able to at least have them show up.
You know, I'm also a screenwriter.
So like, I had them show up and record me at a pitch meeting,
which had never been done before, so that they're like
watching me pitch a screenplay that I wrote to a producer and
like, getting her emotional. I wanted people to see and
possibly cheerlead or hate, doesn't really matter.
I wanted them to see like what it was like, because I see us as
dudes all in the come up, you know, and I wanted people to see
that journey while while maintaining exactly what they're
talking about, which is that authenticity and the
imperfections that we are. It's just like, dude, it's kind
of just like a pot. I I honestly with the first
thing that I thought like when you ask that is like kind of
like at least how I feel about a podcast, Like how do I just be
real as as, as I possibly can be while still knowing what's
important for me to put out there right.
That's a. Good way to yeah, I feel like.
Because for me, just even the part like at the end of the day,
you have audience and you got entertained.
But sometimes I also want to educate or you know, there's
different. It's about balance.
So I was just curious how you guys balance out, you know,
cause 1 moment could potentially change our life.
You know, you're, you got this big audience, you know, there's
a lot of at stakes. So how do you guys go into, I
mean? You gotta you also got to know
with reality TV, and I think this goes back to what we're
saying is like, you're gonna accumulate hate no matter what.
Like, yeah, I love. Hate me person just like.
You we're gonna have haters and you know, I think for us with
the whole reboot is like we kind of walked into the lion's den
because there's such big shoes to fill that people
automatically have like a fence up, you know, because they had
such the Bravo fan base is huge and they had as the.
Season goes on for all. Yeah.
And so I think we really just had to kind of just start slow
and just and just be ourselves and not try to, how would I say
it? It's almost like you can't try
to please the audience, I felt. Like there were.
Some moments where I felt that way, but when I look back in
retrospect, you know, at the end of the day, the truth came out
and so I'm happy how everything was displayed from my end.
I think the best. Thing to do is like be
vulnerable. Like if you're feeling a lot of
people do, like let's just say a girl breaks up with you in front
of your boys and shit like that and you're like like, this is
just a situation in real life. You might be like fucked.
I don't care about that chick. I don't care about her, but
inside you might be hurt, right? Yeah, might be like, damn, I'm
like low key hurt. Like if you show what you're
really feeling, sometimes it's hard to find that feeling deep
inside you. That's that's re that's reality.
And if you show that reality, people be like, fuck, like that
kid, like he was real. He wasn't being fake and people
like real. So that's what you got to do.
Those are relatable. As well too.
That's exactly why they feel it. Yeah, sure.
So we're running a little on time.
Do you want to go ahead and tell your story that you told me off
camera real quick? I feel like it could touch a lot
of people. Absolutely.
Absolutely, bro. So you know, your question was
like, what do I screen write about?
Well, I wrote a screenplay called 9 Lives that was about me
and my best friend growing up in addicted households and becoming
dealers, which inevitably got me locked up for seven months.
I got out, started cooking, became a addict, got into a
situation where my best friend shot 4 people and I got shot
multiple times, broke my spine, my best friend got stabbed.
It was a really brutal moment. Yeah, I was.
I was 19, bro. I was 19 years old.
So yeah, I was, I was a teenager and I was paralyzed.
I almost died. I was paralyzed.
Had to learn how to walk. And it took me about 3 months.
But the screenplay itself is about, you know, it's really
about how does somebody get out of that life?
You know, 'cause for me, I stopped doing, stop being a
criminal. But I had a lot of hate in my
heart. And so the, the, the, the
journey is about really it was about forgiveness, forgiving
yourself, forgiving the people that hurt you.
Like in my case, my family, they shot me up when I was 16.
I was just a kid, you know, I had a lot of hatred towards, I
just had a lot of hate and I had a lot and I couldn't see it,
bro. But I had a lot of victim
mentality. Like I, I, I saw the world as
yeah, yeah, but fuck you because you don't know what they did to
me. But my buddies, they never could
shake that they died. They ended up in prison.
They ended up doing till it killed them or they would die in
some violent nonsense like so when I pitched that screenplay,
I I got to watch the producer cry was my very first pitch, you
know, and so that's really what I want to do in the arts or even
when I'm here at a podcast, like I want to be a guy that's like a
goof off a bunch. But yeah, man, that's that's
primarily what I what I write about St. tales making it out
fire. Oh man.
Well, he does. Got to run to a meeting, you
know, about all that stuff. So if you want to tell him your
socials real quick before you head out in case they want to
find more about you, yeah. So Instagram is the fake Shane
Davis TikTok is the humble Shane Davis and my boys here.
They got me launching my which is the smart Shane Davis.
That'll be in like a week or two.
I'm sure by the time this this episode drops, it'll be dropped.
So I just want to say, man, thank you guys for having me on.
Enjoyed the laughs and we'll do it again soon.
There we go man, Thank. You very much, I believe.
We got all the cons for the reality TV show, yeah.
Is there any other cons that came to you while you guys were
taking a editing? 'S not in your face.
It could, it could be or not be in your favor, like so whatever
you put out there, feel comfortable.
Would you put out there. Sometimes you can put something
out there and it could be shifted a little bit.
Fortunately, I think Bravo does a really good job telling the
story of what really happens. And that's not because I think
like my edit came out good or anything, but a lot of people
you will see like be like, oh, that's not what happened.
That's not what happened. It's just like sometimes they
don't agree with how it looks, but it's just not really in your
hands. Like sometimes, like things can
be shifted a little bit and I'll be honest, like looking from the
outside, I realized like, fuck, like that is I judge myself a
little bit like sometimes. So seeing yourself on TV could
be weird. Yeah, right.
Picking. Out the parts.
Could you agree? Could you agree?
Yeah. I mean for sure, like I was on 2
Netflix dating shows and especially when it comes to
dating, I feel like that's when things can get a little weird
bro, you know, because I think I'm pretty good with the ladies,
but when I watched myself on the TVI was like damn, I got no game
right It's. Like what the fuck but.
I mean, because I feel like my game is I'm a very like upfront
person. Like I'm very, I wouldn't say
aggressive, but like I, I verbally, I'm I'm a very
assertive person, yes. And I'm a very like teasing
person. Yeah, you are.
I'm a very vocal and like. Person.
Not not when it comes just like sexual.
It's not sexual, but just like in in general.
I'm a very vocal person and that's just something that you
can't really do that much on reality TVI feel like you.
Got a he's got a really assert voice too.
Yeah, like sometimes when like I think Chris is obviously he's my
best friend, he's my family and everything, but sometimes when
we're out here just talking like yo, and I'm like God damn cheap.
I got a high. Decibel voice.
There you go. But yeah, I mean, for the most
part though, like, yeah, I can't agree with Jason and.
Yeah, but before I break, I was going to ask this question too.
I was going to ask. So of course you know you're
you're touching story and you guys going through a lot where
is when it comes to family too that you had mentioned
supporting wise, like how supportive were your family or
your parents, let alone when it came to not only the reality,
but even the start of your guys. My family was always pretty open
with like me being a stripper and stuff.
So what kind of it's like these little things in my life like
just opened up more and more and more.
I'm really open with my family. I know Chris a little more close
with his with some things like, you know, like, like he handles
things. He I'm I'm a really like with my
family. I share just about everything,
OK? Chris knows that.
He's like, dude, you talk too much.
But when it comes down to like me in the beginning, like taking
my journey to LA, like my dad was like, I don't really want
you to go to Med school. In a sense.
I think you could, you should do business.
And that was kind of like my vibe.
You know, my dad's a business guy.
And he was like, look, you just got the personality for it.
I think you're going to be in school forever.
It might not be like who you are, but for me, I thought I was
just being told like all the time, like us both, like you
should do film and stuff. And when I was taking a shot, my
mom's more of like creative, My dad's more like realistic.
My dad is like, don't move to LA, but if you're going to do
it, I'll support you. Whatever.
And we drove there and it was tough.
And you know, I had my cries ups and downs and end up working out
When I told him about my mom was like, you send pictures of your
like what? Like she just didn't get it.
She's like, are you sending nude pictures?
I was like, mom, it's not a big deal.
Like I'm telling you, like it's not that big of a deal.
I just kept saying it's not a big deal.
But I was like, mom, like you live at home.
Like, you know, you got everything like fixed there.
Like, you know, you got food, you got a big ass fridge.
Like when I come home, I miss that fridge.
I miss that food, bro. And I'm just like, I miss that
shit. Like I was like, I want, I want
to live a good life again. Like I want, I want to make
money like now. So I could like support myself.
And we were working at the restaurant and stuff, but it
just which wasn't enough, dude, like LA is expensive, you know
what I'm saying? So I was just like, we were
living just to like, you know, meet ends.
And finally, when I was like, I don't want to just like make, I
want like to make like a career. I want to make savings.
I want to have like a future. So I felt like it changed my
whole mental dynamic. Like it really did.
So they, they didn't really understand.
But as time went on, they saw like the success that was coming
my way and they saw how I held myself with the confidence and
they were like, fuck it, I'll support you, right?
I think that's the most important thing.
You know, I think besides those, do you surround yourself with?
I think family is the most important support that you can
ever get from anyone. Yeah, I think.
I think family is the most important thing in my life.
Like in the beginning when I had nothing, I would be like
everyday riding my bike to work. Like I have videos of that shit
like just sweating my ass off wearing this fucking outfit and
being like damn. Like the only like if I want to
quit go back home to my family. Like I got my family.
I call my mom, my dad all the time and that's what kept me
going really. I miss you guys.
I was always blessed to have that.
I have a lot of friends that don't have family.
I have a lot of friends that don't have family and I'm like
fuck man that like it's hard bro I'm lucky.
We heard a lot about his journey but I'm curious about yours like
coming up and the supporting and what was like your mindset?
I'm so yeah, growing up like, well, I guess.
Like the coming up in LA and up in LA and doing the reality TV
and then I'll make. A click I'm pretty good.
Like getting to the point like I was, I didn't know what I wanted
to do in my life. I was kind of all over the
place. I was like selling timeshare.
I was in real estate, I was doing HVAC.
That's what I went to school for heating and air conditioning.
And I couldn't really find anything that made me happy in
Jersey. And so luckily, like obviously
we, we went to Europe that kind of like was like the whole start
of our journey in a sense. And that's when we did our first
dating show. That's when brought us out here
when it kind of my parents, my parents were always supportive
of me, like going for my dreams and doing everything big, but
they always wanted me to stay home.
They always wanted me to be there, you know, because that's
what's comfortable for them. You know, the know the knowing
where I'm at, knowing what I'm doing.
My mom is always worried about me.
My dad's always like, oh, I wish you just got a normal job,
worked a nine to five, had the kids and had a family and my mom
did the same thing. And I was just I always knew I
was met from way more than that. Like I never wanted to settle
for a mediocre lifestyle. That's what I was terrified of.
And so when it comes to like, I feel like that's what was that,
that, that allowed us to live the, the life that like we
always kind of wanted and we, we know we deserved in a sense,
especially like a financial point of view.
You know, my mom didn't know that I was a stripper back in
the day because one of her best friends, I talked to her about
it. She was like, yeah, the less she
knows, the better. So I was always very hesitant
with what I told my mom. I kind of just told her what I
what she wanted to hear. My dad on the hand, he didn't
give a shit. He thought it was hilarious.
He was like, do it. My sister, she's really
supportive. I have an older sister, She's 35
and she's got a little one now. So I'm an uncle and she's always
been supportive. But yeah, my mom, she didn't
even know what it was until like 3 weeks ago.
Oh, OK. Until they talked about it on
the show and I told her what it was.
I told her I was like, yeah, I do.
She's like, what is that? I'm just like, yeah, it's just
like modeling, you know? And like it's like, it's like
it's modeling. It's really what it is.
It's like fitness modeling. And then she found out about
like the pump the massage video talking about that.
Shit, so they know what's going on, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And so that's when she was like,
Christopher, what the fuck is up with this and shit.
And I was like, I did the same thing that you said.
I'm like, mom, it's not that big of a deal.
You know, I'm making good money. Don't worry about it.
I'm fine. She's like, don't do anything
you'll regret in the future. I'm like, it's probably too late
for that, but it is what it is. My my goal is my mom is the
hardest worker I've ever met. She works literally every single
day just to make ends meet. And I really just want to make
enough money to to buy her her fucking dream home in, in
Florida one day. And once that happens, then I'll
be like, Mom, what, paid for that shit?
I fucking told you, yeah. So.
Let me do it, yeah. Were you like a little against
in the beginning? Yeah, I was very I.
Was very reluctant for sure because obviously, like I said
before, there's like a huge statement behind it.
People can look down upon you. It can affect your dating life
too. I was going to say.
How does? I mean it seems like they're
leaning into it now, but how does it affect the reality TV
stuff? So maybe should we give him a
quick rundown what happened on the show?
All right, So what? Happened on the show, yeah, so.
In the beginning of the show, before we went in the show, I
was telling Chris we had this huge like the buchor, like I
think we should cancel only it's going to be hard because we have
a huge fan base now and I love my fans.
They're they're my supporters, man.
Man, shout out to you guys for you guys have been I tell them
all the time on live like you guys, I'm here because of y'all.
So like, you know, you're going to have people that love you and
people that hate you, but the people that really want to see
you succeed, they're going to be by your side.
And you know, it's a it's a cool it's a cool partnership.
I'd say it's a good family. When it came down to be on the
show, I said maybe we got to cancel it and I was kind of
talking to my fans about it and they were like, please don't do
it. Just keep it on the side, keep
ADL and the show found out because during the show he was
dating a girl named Audrey and she went into my bathroom by
accident and she found a rubber and a pump.
One of my fans sent me this. That's how they.
Found out about the IT was a rubber.
Combination, you know, I mean, got it.
Got. It got it.
Yeah, it's. Crazy, yeah.
Find that. What would you say?
You found that random Like what would you say?
What would I say? Well, I mean, I would have
laughed. I'm like, right, But it was
like, what the? Fuck, is this shit?
Yeah. What?
Does she say? So she came.
Out you could tell because he was That was my.
Girl and she she was actually pretty sure with it.
She was at first she was like what was in your shower?
And I was like you went in the wrong shower.
That was Jason Pump, by the way. Probably didn't even know what.
It was, it was like a fucking she.
She didn't know that I had. A pump and I just kind of like
didn't say anything. We both have.
Them, I mean, I got, I got all my boys on the pump game.
Yeah, yeah, I'm actually Brandon.
That shit's long story.
Short, she ends up telling the other girl on the show.
Who I was talking to, talking to.
At the time and she was. Already mad at me because a
bunch of other shit, but she was like, what the fuck?
Like he's got time for what? And she's like, 'cause I think
they do. And then she was like, whoa, she
was like, she was, she took a huge step back and was like,
that's fucking weird. She talked to me about she's
like, you're a red flag. You didn't tell me.
I was like, I mean, we've been just kind of like friends just
met so. And then I just was like, hey,
it's my Instagram bio. Like it's not like I'm hiding
it. And then from there she she
wanted she was really mad at me. So she hooked up with Shane
actually. And then and then Shane was like
my boy, like, yo, my bad. And I was just like, honestly,
bro, like I'm happy you shot your shot.
I just saw her true colors. All good.
Nothing against it. Like we're friends anyways.
Like I I wasn't like pissed off about that too much.
I'm a little upset, but then it goes into later in the show and
she. She found this collab that me,
Chris and our roommate who's a pretty big star, Nathan Webb,
she actually. Bought it.
Yeah, I was like, yo, you, you're a fan.
That was good. She bought this shit.
And then she goes to my boss and she tells my boss straight up,
like, this dude's got a pump. He's got a he's like doing shit
with his cousin. I was like, yo, it wasn't.
But then I'm just all like, you know what, fuck it.
I do what I do, like it. I don't want to spoil the show,
but basically that was a lot of fucking fire on the show.
A lot of drama and a lot of fans were like, I really like how you
held yourself, like you held yourself like grounded and
respectable, and you're proud about what you do.
And for me, I think that honestly, I mean, there's
nothing else I could do. Yeah, I was like, fuck it.
And I mean, I saw a lot of positive shit on my way from
that. How did?
You end up on the news. Did you end up on the news or
something? On TV, Yeah.
Everybody fucking fuck I was on. Like watch what happens live in
New York City. Been on like multiple podcasts
about this. I was with Playboy.
I had a whole article on Playboy.
Damn. I didn't match it since then
really. Wait, so have you collab with
your cousin? Yeah, of course.
And what did you guys do? Well, we have that one clip
that's pretty viral right now. It was on the TV show.
I was on the show recently said 20 seconds, defend your, your,
your video, whatever. And for me, I think it was just
like any kind of collab. For me, it was my fans really
interested in it. I kind of gave them what they
want and it's a good video. It's a good video.
Yeah, I agree. So as.
That I mean the collabs. Really be doing the best like
you guys said. I mean the collabs really is
what makes it wait, so do. You guys plan on still doing, I
mean, you guys are still doing reality TV, but I guess like if
you had to choose, you know, they said you had to pick one,
Which one are you sticking with? OK.
Honestly, I I it's hard to say but.
I mean, your story is crazy though too, right?
Cuz I feel like it was more so within a build up of being a
part of the show within itself too.
But then this came about just beforehand, right?
Yeah, I was. Doing before and I was gonna
stop, but then the show kind of was a moment where it's like
strike where the iron's hot, strike when the iron's hot.
And do you think that? Was like a good moment for the
show. Fuck yeah.
I think that's been like the last couple, the last couple
episodes it's been, it's been Catching Fire.
Like people are like interested in, they're learning about it
and they're like, it's very. New and taboo and very new and.
Taboo we're kind of like the new faces of it.
I I wouldn't say, but the I'd say the exposure of it in real
life like people are trying to get to know about it more right,
right. And I think like a lot of people
have like their own sexual fantasies and interest and like,
if you're just confident about that at the end of the day,
like, like human beings, man, like people have interests.
Like I'm all down to just support what they what they
like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
And within. You both as a duo, what would
you say the future is between you 2?
What's going on? We have written.
We have written scripts before. We well, we hired somebody for
that like kind of like Shane, me and Chris have a pretty
interesting life. We were actually have a meeting
right for this start on podcast, which we've been want to do for
a while now. We have like a bigger fan base.
We have a lot of things that we want to talk about.
Also, I'm probably gonna get into like writing some stuff
soon. Books, more scripts.
I really love that. So it's kind of like for me
acting. Hey, let alone.
This interaction that we're all having here, I think you guys
are gonna do amazing within your guys's podcast.
I really manifest good things from your from you guys, and I
know that the episodes are gonna go great.
Hell yeah. Bro, we'd love to have you guys
on, by the way. Yeah, Oh, that would be.
Fun man, we're gonna learn more about.
Y'all, there we go. Hey, I definitely.
Love to go, yeah. I think that be super fun.
Still virgin? We'll.
See if at that point that's a good one.
Maybe I'll lose the the virginity.
Maybe we'll. Bring him on Ryan's podcast.
Have him lose it on Ryan. Lose it on the.
Podcast. That's the uncensored version.
Bring on a charging for that. You guys have like a name.
For yet are you guys? Not really.
No, we're thinking. Yeah, we're thinking of them.
Yeah, I think. Something light is the best,
like any. Other goals or plans you got.
I mean, there's a. Lot I wanna do I mean one day
out so I'm a big surfer I I definitely wanna start my own
like surf school. I think that be really cool.
I just wanna like, yeah, give the freaking gift of just like
Aloha and like surfing. I think it changed my life in so
many ways. So I really want to do that.
And then I kind of want to get into singing too.
I keep kind of bullshitting, but like, I got a pretty good
fucking voice. He does.
He's. Got a good voice?
Yeah. So I want to, I want to dance
around that more for sure. Modeling, I want to get more
modeling. I'm an acting, I don't know if
it's too late for acting, but it's never too late.
It'd be it'd be cool to get into more into more stuff.
Definitely want to do more auditions and hopefully like the
only things won't be in the way of that.
But yeah, man, much more to come in general, man, I feel like
every year, you know, you kind of learn more about yourself and
what you want to do and what your purpose is.
And I'm slowly getting there, but I'm on I'm on the right path
and how look. At it.
If Rob Downey Junior can do it, you could do it, man.
I didn't say. The same thing I was saying that
like he's got a crazy path and I was like, hey, like there's no,
there's no right path to make. It is like whatever you want to
do and for me, like my roads crazy like look at Kim K for
example, like you know, like and for me, like I got into this
whole game because of acting. I've been in like multiple
acting classes. I've had an incredible
experience. I think it enhanced me on
reality TV with help me with a lot talking to people, being
uncomfortable situations, learning how to capitalize on
that, just truly showing your true self.
And I'm just gonna keep up with acting too, Like that's it's
always a passion of mine. It's always depending.
On whenever you want to start yeah you're not confident you
are in it that's all and you're already at the right path both
of you Oh yeah what it is keep going you know from.
Here definitely. Bad, you know I.
Think we'll end off on that real quick for the viewers.
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